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Bonus Episode: What Music Do Serial Killers and the Worst People In The World Listen to?
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Chris
Double Elvis.
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Right?
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I don't think so.
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Hey Discos, Need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show. The party. After the Party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission? To uncover the truth. To confront the myth. To reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're discussing what the worst people in the world listen to. From serial killers to war criminals to Jeffrey Epstein and all the way back again. And somehow this is all the subject of this week's episode. Townes Van Zant's fault. We're previewing next week's episode on the pretenders. Chrissy. Plus, we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lotta Rosie this is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. Townsman Zan is the subject of this week's Disgraceland full episode. And we we just released that episode right before the bonus here. And as you'll hear, one of the most interesting aspects of Townes Van Zant's life and career, it's the fact that he modeled his life and career after Hank Williams. And there are all these eerie coincidences, including the day that he died and how he died. So that got me thinking about eerie coincidences between musicians throughout music history. And there are some pretty good ones. John Lennon and Dimebag Darrell from Pantera were both shot and killed by deranged fans on the same day, years apart, of course. Kurt Cobain and Alison Chains as Lane Staley both died on the same day as well, also years apart. Linkin park had a drummer named Kennedy. The Dead Kennedys had a drummer named Lincoln. Ryan Adams and Brian Adams share the same birthdays, that sort of stuff. And also a ton More about 911 that I'm going to save for another time. But anyways, this thinking led me into a different, to me more interesting research wormhole, and that's into the subject of the music that certain serial killers were fans of and in some cases the music that they listened to while they were doing the nasty that they were up to now. Ozzy Osbourne, RIP Ozzy recently passed away. Ozzy was a Christian. Ozzy was an overall good guy, I believe. So he would hate this factoid that I'm going to lay on you, but I'm going to mention it anyway. Jeffrey Dahmer loved Black Sabbath. Apparently he would listen to Sabbath while dismembering Bodies songs Iron man and Paranoid were two of his favorites. Which means the Milwaukee Cannibal had pretty basic taste when it comes to Black Sabbath. What's the matter, Jeffrey? You never heard yourself some junior's eyes? Check that out. All right. Anyways, beyond Jeffrey Dahmer, I didn't know that about Jeffrey Dahmer until this morning, but we all know about the Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez's obsession with acdc and about Charles Manson's supposed obsession with the Beatles. What I didn't know about was Aileen wuornos love for 10,000 Maniacs and the song Carnival, which she apparently requested to be played at her wake. This, for whatever reason, is beyond creepy to me. I think I know the reason, because it's. It's counterpoint. I never thought of this before, but I guess what I'm saying is that if you told me that Natalie Merchant had some deep, dark secrets, I guess I wouldn't be surprised. Now we're all big New York City, 1977 Scholars here in Disgraceland. So if you're like me, then I assume you connect the Son of Sam, David Berkowitz to the Talking Heads because of their tune Psycho Killer. But that song was actually released on. On Talking Head 77, their excellent record. That was released Psycho Killer on that record about a month after Berkowitz was arrested. So this serial killer wasn't listening to any Kes crusade. This psycho killer, I should say, wasn't listening to any Kes crusade, but he was listening to hall and Oates say it ain't so, Sammy. I find this to be super creepy as well, because Hall Oates, pre1978 output, is dope, by which I mean it's pretty sophisticated stuff. Which means that the Son of Sam psycho killer that he was, had pretty great taste. This is Pre Maneater hall of notes. This is Rich Girl hall of notes. This is Sarah Smile hall of notes. Honestly, I'm a little shocked by this one because I kind of think of David Berkowitz as like a, you know, a drooling idiot who is, you know, afraid of barking dogs. But whatever, whatever. Good musical taste, I guess. John Wayne Gacy, the so called killer clown, listened to REO Speedwagon, I guess. I don't know. Feels like maybe investigators just found a random eight track in his basement and this is how the myth got started. But I couldn't find much on Gacy's music taste. And honestly, I just picture John Wayne Gacy running around his house in his clown get up soundtrack to the Benny Hill show theme music. Another weird one is Arthur Shawcross. Okay, is that how you say the serial killer's name? Arthur Shawcross? A sick, sick individual who murdered two children and 11 adults. Shawcross. If you look at this guy, if you look at a picture of him, he's older, gray hair, kind of portly, looks like a dude you wouldn't want to pitch to in your softball beer league. Kind of normie, kind of normal, but kind of wrong at the same time. Anyway, this dude was a Gigi Allen fan. Ha. Look at this guy's photo. How, How. How did he get into Gigi Allen. That's what I want to know. Now according to my admittedly very limited research on this, Ted Bundy did not listen to music. He only listened to AM talk radio, which kind of makes all the sense in the world if you think about it. Now he's not a serial killer or a killer as far as we know, but it's been in the news lately. So I have to hit upon what Jeffrey Epstein was listening to while he was up to his particular brand of no good, which depending on who you ask these days, means everything from sexually abusing minors to plotting global pandemics to satanic ritual cannibalism, AKA pizza and grape soda. Anyway, apparently Jeffrey Epstein had some pretty on brand taste. Rolling Stone magazine dug into his Spotify wrapped from 2016. They dug that out of the Epstein files and I'm Coming out by Diana Ross was Epstein's most listened to song of that year. Do, do what you will with that little bit of information. He Ain't Heavy He's My Brother by Marian Williams came in second on Epstein's 2016 wrapped. He ain't Heavy, He's My Brother. I can just see the Hulu limited, you know, scripted eight part Jeffrey Epstein series right now with, you know, it's Epstein in his, his, his Manhattan townhouse and, and he's just sitting back at the end of the day with a nice, a nice, I don't know what's Epstein drinking? A yeah, Cabernet, a nice full bodied cab. And he's got his, his feet up on the table, on the coffee table with his, his slippers and maybe, you know, he's in like, he's got his Pendleton blanket over him and he's, he's listening to He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother and he's, he's lamenting the fact that Bill Gates won't call him back. I don't know. I don't know. That's how I picture it. We'll see. Anyways, his third most played song was Hold On, I'm Coming by Sam and Dave and I'm not even going to touch that one. Anyways, I find this fascinating now that our wormhole has widened. It's worth mentioning of course that Hitler vibed on Wagner. Syria's recently deposed brutal dictator and war criminal Bashar Al Assad. You know, the dude who used chemical weapons on his own people. Well, when they hacked into his itunes account, they found out that Mr. War Criminal here dug himself a little I'm Sexy and I Know it by lmfao he was also into Wright Said Fred's I'm Too Sexy. Of course. Of course he was. Look at, look at this guy. This makes all the sense in the world when you look at this guy. And I guess proves that evil transcends from shitty politics to shitty musical tastes as well. Anyways, Kim Jong Un, I don't know, he's into some weird shit. I don't know what any of this stuff is, and I'm sure as hell I'm not going to try to pronounce any of it. All right, I'm going to keep going here. Gaddafi. You want some Gaddafi? Gaddafi. It was always. It was Gaddafi when I was growing up. And then it became Gaddafi just like it was always Nevada and then it became Nevada. I don't know, this stuff just happens. Anyway, Libya's dictator Gaddafi had some mainstream pop taste, okay? Dude liked Nelly Furtado, who performed for Gaddafi for yes, War Criminal, that he was for a cool million dollars, which I don't know, seems kind of light to me. A mill is a mill. But you know, how much is he so worth? I don't know. I'd have gone eight figures, Nelly. Eight figures for Gaddafi. Apparently Gaddafi was also into csa. Gaddafi there. I just can't help it, you know? Anyways, Gaddafi was also into Mariah, 50 Cent, Beyonce. And now we're getting into the subject of celebrities and musicians who sold their souls and opened their bank accounts to the cash for the cash, I should say, of some really, really bad people. Massive amounts of cash. Big, big, big fees, if you want to know what I'm talking about. Those musicians who took million dollar fees from brutal dictators to perform at their, I don't know, their parties, their spoiled kids, birthday bashes, whatnot. Yeah, Beyonce, 50 Cent, but also Kanye, Sting. I did this. I did a little bit on this about a year year ago. I touched on it in the after party. But today Szeth and I are gonna go in deeper and have the names, the dollar figures, the dictators, and the details in the exclusive section of the after party here. Go to Disgracelandpod.com to sign up. Become a Disgrace Lane All Access member and unlock exclusive content like this along with ad free content as well. Finally, since we're on the subject of war criminals, George W. Bush's favorite song is My Sharona by the Knack. And now I can forgive W for those weapons of mass destruction and all is right in the world. Because the knack in my Sharona just kind of kicks ass and honestly just can you picture W up in Kennebunk right now. You know, he's out in the backyard, he's roasting some hot dogs, and he's got my Sharona plan. I don't know. Kind of cracks me up. Okay, now we've gone from Towns Van Zant to the neck. And I think it's time we can fully climb out of this. This wormhole, this rabbit hole, and back into reality. All right, this is what we got cooking this week in Disgraceland. Obviously, the Towns Van Zant episode is there for you to check out right now. We've also got a rewind on Serge Gainsburg coming up on Friday in the rewind slot. And I should probably mention that Serge Gainsburg. I found this in my research this morning as well. Serge is a fave of that old. That old battle ax, that old so and so, that old muckety muck. Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Just again, picturing these people listening to this music is all the fun. Angela Merkel and Serge Gainsbourg. Ah, just. It's. What an image. What an image, Serge. Listen, if you don't know Serge Gainsbourg, you should. He is one of the most interesting and compelling and influential singers, songwriters, entertainers of the 20th century. Without him, you would not have Beck. You would not have Pulp or Rufus Wainwright. He was a French Sinatra with half the looks and twice the confidence, if you can imagine that. All right? You also wouldn't have Whitney Houston in one of the most insane live television moments of all time. But you're gonna have to listen to this Serge Gainsbourg episode to find out what I am talking about. All right, Next week, our brand new episode on Chrissy Hine from the Pretenders. Now, you might love the Pretenders, or you might just be like, yeah, the Pretenders are cool, but I'm not a super fan and I don't really care that much about their singer. But it doesn't matter, okay? What you don't know if you're anything like me. What you don't know. What I didn't know before getting into this production of this episode was just how prevalent Chrissy Hine was during the formative years of punk rock. And not in America. She's American in England. And I didn't know this. I didn't know about these massively consequential bands that Chrissy Hyde was there in the beginning, in the formative years of these bands and was almost in. She was almost in these bands. It's pretty incredible, pretty revelatory. And on the true crime front concerning Chrissy Hine. She survived attacks, violence, predatory skis, ball music, journalists. Of course, it was the 1970s and a whole lot more to become the trailblazing pop star that she became. So you're not going to want to miss this episode. Check it out. It's coming up on Tuesday and I can't wait for you to hear it. And when you're listening to the Chrissy Hine episode, be thinking about this question. Who is the most badass female musician in the history of rock and roll? There are endless possibilities, but you only get to pick one. And that's what makes this question so good. Call me 617-906-6638. Leave a voicemail with your answer, Send me a text with your answer and you might hear your answer on next week's afterparty. All right, I'm gonna take a quick break, but I'll be back in the flash with your answers to last week's question of. I remember a time in my life a few years back, really rough patch for me, for my family. We were going through it and it was tough and there was a loss and a lot of us were looking for therapy. We were looking for some help and it was hard in the moment to actually go through the machinations to get the help that we needed. So not only is it hard to find a therapist, it can be extra hard to find a therapist when you're in crisis, because, let's face it, most things are hard in those periods. But then finding a therapist who actually takes your insurance, that can be difficult in and of itself as well. 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All right, Discos, welcome back into the after party. Let's, let's quit the one way dialogue here and bring you all into the conversation. 617-9066663. Phone lines are always open here in Disgraceland. Call me, text me, leave me a voicemail. Just like Scott in the 805.
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This is Scott from the 805. Love the show, always have. I am just shocked that you have not done an episode on Bobby Fuller yet. I mean, that mysterious death is ripe for the pick and would love to hear your take on it. Keep up the great work, Rocka Rolla.
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Scott, you're absolutely right. You are 100% correct. I've actually researched this episode fully intending to write an episode on Bobby Fuller. And there were two times that this happened where it was scheduled and then it got pushed. One time. I don't remember the first time, why we didn't do it the second time. I was gonna do a live thing in Austin, Texas and Bobby being a Texas, it made sense. And then that I had to cancel. I had to cancel that event. Unfortunately, it did not happen. But Bobby is on the schedule and we will get into this. You're right. It is a mysterious death that is right for the picking. And I cannot wait to share the Bobby Fuller story with all you guys. It's an insane, insane collision of music and true crime. Appreciate the push, Scott. All right, let's check out this voicemail from the 337 on this week's question of the week. We got to this question because of Towns Van Zant, because Townsend Van Zant lived his life in a very authentic way and as such sacrificed a lot. And ultimately, I believe, died because of it. And there's a lot of artists who have done that, who've sacrificed kind of everything for their art and gave it all up. And it's a damn shame. Anyways, the question was which artists have done that in the past that you're a fan of? Etc. All right, let's check out this voicemail from Cody. And where's Cody calling from the 337?
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Hey, this is Cody from the 337. I was calling in about your question for this week. And I'll be honest, like, there's a lot. It's hard. I got dark for explosives, a couple of them on the top of my head. I mean, I know we talked about Bob Marley. I Mean, not only did he spend his own money to go to Zimbabwe, but he also got sick, you know, from sleeping on the floors and everything. And during his tour in Zimbabwe, also, he did perform that concert live on his own dime, too. I think I was free or something like that. But then also, you had David Bowie, I think. Did he, like, get diagnosed with, like, psychosis or something, for, like, how, you know, dedicated to his craft, but also, like, how obsessed he became with his music. I think it was like when he made Black Star, you know, it was like the last 18 months of his life he spent, you know, producing that. I mean, knowing that, you know, with his own health and everything, it's come to an end. And, you know, you said, I'm gonna go out and do what I do, what I love to do. And also, I was gonna also respond to your question a couple weeks ago about most influential, you know, bands outside of the United States and also Great Britain, Kind of a modern take, but there's also some. Somebody that I was gonna say for this week's question, too, is Daft Pump. I mean, nobody really knew who these guys were for just about all of their career. You know, that was the whole point of the robot helmet. Yeah, it brought a lot of attention to them and everything, but they also had to, you know, sacrifice all the fame that they would get. You know, being recognized in the streets, being on top billboards and everything. Nobody would know what they look like. But, yeah, I love the podcast. Thank you for everything that you do, and hopefully I'll be. Be able to hear myself.
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Thanks for the call. Thanks for the answer. Appreciate it. Bob Marley. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I mean, he survived. If he died on stage, you could absolutely make the claim, but he survived. And so. So that's a tough one for me. The Bowie one, though, is very interesting. You know, there's. You can make the case that he nearly lost his mind. He nearly lost his mind during those cocaine years, those LA years. They were really tough for him, but he didn't lose his mind. You know what I mean? So the sacrifice and then the Black Star thing, that's really interesting because I don't think any of us really know how much. I mean, he made that album while he was dying. We all know that Making an album is a tremendous amount of work and exertion, and who knows how that affected him and impacted his death. I guess we don't know. Maybe we will at some point. That record's incredible, by the way. Just amazing. Just great stuff. Thank you for reminding me of it. Thank you for the. For the message. I want to hit on Daft Punk real quick as well. Yeah. I guess they sacrificed a portion of their fame for a different kind of fame in that they were anonymous. Right. That's what you're saying. And it's a really kind of nuanced take, and I dig it and I appreciate it. All these takes are great. Thank you. 337-617-9066-6638. You guys want to leave me a voicemail or send me a text on question of the week or anything, really? 913. Text in and the answer to the question of the week. Billie Holiday, for sure. And yeah, absolutely. I was reading again about Billie Holiday this week in reference to the Patti Smith episode that I'm producing that I'm researching. Right. Actually writing right now. And I was just reading about the final moments of her life. And it's. It's so awful. It's so bad. It's just. You're absolutely right. 913-920. Writes in with some episode suggestions. Ministry, New World Order, Queens Reich, Operation Mine Crime. Compare and contrast to the times they were released compared to today. Prophetic af. Interesting. I thought New World Order was pretty of the moment. I gotta say, I felt like we were in the New World Order when Ministry released that. But I dig the text.
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920. Hi, it's Alien Beanie. And you read my comment. Alien Beanie. I think what you mean is I read your review, to which I say thank you for the review. Alien Beanie. I'm writing you back right now. I'm texting you back. Hold on. All right, get back to me. We'll hook you up with some merch. Alien Beanie left a review for Disgraceland and I read it here, apparently, and I'm gonna send her. Him. He. She. I'm not exactly sure. Just a little thank you. You know, sometimes the thank yous come in as. As a T shirt, sometimes they come as a. As a pin, sometimes they come as a signed book. You know, depends on what I got going on that day. So Grizz Girl writes on Apple podcasts. Five stars. Makes me cooler. This is the podcast I share with friends more than any other. I get the secret backstories, the why and the how, even artists I never gave a second thought to. Now I know a little more in a fun and interesting way. Somehow at the end of the episode, I feel just a little cooler than I did before. I love this Grizz Girl. I love It.
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I love it. Thank you. Great review. I want us all to feel a little cooler. God knows I could be a little cooler. Not that I care about being cool, because, you know, if you care about being cool, how cool are you really? And I know that's not exactly what you're saying, Grizz girl. You're just saying you feel a little cooler. And I get that. Sometimes I put on a, you know, a vintage J. Crew T shirt that I found on ebay and paid a stupid amount of money for it. I feel a little cooler. I can't help it. I'm concerned with worldly things. I'm not perfect, perfect guys. I'm trying. Anyways, get in touch, Grizz girl, get in touch. And if any of you guys want to leave a review for Disgrace on an Apple podcast or Spotify, feel free. And if you hear your review, read here. You may win some free merch. All right, you guys want to get in touch, you can also email me disgracelandpodmail.com Ted writes us from I don't know where, but Ted says, hey, I discovered your podcast about a year or so ago. I'm a pretty faithful listener. I love music, and I want to let you know that your subjects and stories are super cool. I just came off of listening to all three of your Grateful Dead episodes, and I spread the word to a lot of my brothers and sisters about how great you are. And these days of very shallow and vapid podcasts that are based on weak journalism, you stand out by a mile. Keep up the good work, Ted. Thank you so much. It's good to hear from the Deadheads here, the Dead fans, because I get a lot of from Grateful Dead fans. I'm not gonna lie. And yeah, I really couldn't care. I don't care. You know, give me all the. It doesn't matter. I have my opinions. They are what they are. They just are what they are. I'm not gonn alter them. I love the Grateful Dead. Maybe I don't love them as much as some people, but I do love them. Okay. And Ted, I like that. You know, whatever criticism I've had of the Dead in the past, it did not rub you and your Deadhead ways the wrong way. So thanks for writing. I appreciate it. Over on our Patreon, get some new members. Joey Christensen, Patty Drake wanted to shout you guys out. Welcome to All Access. Welcome to the disco community. I see you get in the chat, say hello, introduce yourselves, take part in our Oscars poll. Check out Helltown Mark's playlist. And if you're in Philly, you know, maybe you can connect with Miranda Nicole and go check out the Meatloaf musical. All right. These are just some of the things that are going on on Patreon. Sign up to become an All Access member. Talk about feeling cool. You will feel cool and you will feel smart. Okay? We got some smart listeners and I appreciate you guys and I appreciate the support that you give to the show. So thank you. I want to read one dm. It's actually, it's a public comment here from Instagram. Hold on one second. This is from my old friend Matt Pin, pedal steel player to the stars. Matt plays with some pretty big artists, like biggest of the big. And he writes on our Bob Weir Bohemian Grow post. He writes, I recently was invited to the Bohemian and I can't tell Matt if you're fucking with me or not. I hope you're not. I hope you're being serious. You certainly got but the style to pull off a visit to Bohemian Grove. I can see you all snug up there in whatever get up you got going. You're a stylish individual and it works for that kind of outdoor, campfirey vibe that the Bohemian Grove has going on in between sacrificing children and all that stuff. Anyways, Matt, I hope you're not kidding. I hope you're being serious and get in touch if you are. And I want to know more. I want to know more about your quest to Bohemian Grove. All right, listen, I gotta take a quick break. It's quicker for those of you who are all Access members, by the way, we just play like a couple seconds of music. There's no ads, no nothing. Just come right back in anyways. Take a quick break. Back in. Flash. Hey, Sal. Hank. What's going on? We haven't worked a case in years. I just bought my car at Carvana and it was so easy. Easy? Too easy. Think something's up? You tell me. They got thousands of options. Found a great car at a great price. Uh huh. And it got delivered the next day. It sounds like Carvana just makes it easy to buy your car, Hank. Yeah, you're right. Case closed.
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I'm watching Big Lebowski again tonight, willfully, joyously, because the Big Lebowski is the next film that we are covering and this film should be played loud. Our all access exclusive video podcasts for Patreon members where Zeth lundy and I, Dr. Zeth Lundy, excuse me, where we dissect and discuss great musical soundtracks and scores from our favorite movies. So pumped to do this Big Lebowski episode. Think of it. Think of the great music. And I actually know the dude who's responsible for for the music in the Big Lebowski. So that, that's, that's going to make for some pretty interesting conversation. But think of all the great music and the central role music has not just as as soundtrack, but just, I mean, Amy, man's in this movie. Flea is in this movie. Jeff Bridges. Can't I just thinking of the Credence stuff. It's so good. Anyways, I got to watch that tonight because we are filming that tomorrow and it'll be out next week. Next week. And if you want to watch it, you can do so on Patreon. Go to be an All Access member. You know how to sign up Disgracelandpod.com and that'll get you in and we hope to see you over there. All right. Last week I spoke to you guys about my love for Love story, the John F. Kennedy Jr. Carolyn Bessette series on Hulu, produced by the great Ryan Murphy And. And, you know, it just reminded me. We used to do recommendations all the time on this show, and it was great. And I didn't have a reason for stopping doing it. We talked about movies and films and TV and records and books. Lots of book talk in the past. I think I stopped doing it because, I don't know, it just became like too much. Too much of the conversation. But that's dumb. You know, we're always trying to make these episodes a specific length based on a bunch of different things. I'm not going to bore you with the details. Maybe that's why. Maybe I was trying to be more efficient. I don't know. But I love recommendations, and I know you guys do as well. I love talking about stuff, even if it's cheesy stuff you wouldn't expect. Like this JFK story, which is, believe me, it's full on cheese. But it's great. I've posted about it in the Patreon chat, and honestly, you guys are like, what? I don't know. Very little. Very little action on it. I know I'm not the only one watching this damn series anyhow. More Rex is what I'm saying. More Rex. Right now I'm in a. I'm in a hole. This. I'm caught up on. On Love Story, and it comes out once a week, which I can't stand. I like the binge like most people. So I'm just sitting all week waiting around for Friday night for this thing to pop again, and I got nothing. So send me your recommendations is what I'm saying. I need some tv. Rex series, you know, series. I think I'm gonna do the Killing. Have you guys watched the Killing? It's an older kind of True Crimey Show. 2015. Ish. I'm intrigued because Patti Smith loves the show, loved the show, was devastated when it was canceled. Patti Smith had some excellent, excellent television tastes. She's a Law and Order fan. Patti Smith is kind of. She's kind of the original true crime girl. That's what I've learned from my research. Like, if she. If she were of this generation, our generation, she would absolutely be like a. My favorite murder listener. She probably isn't my favorite murder listener. She's. She's pretty open and she's pretty. She's into some stuff. I don't know about podcasts, but television. It's pretty incredible what her obsession with some of these true crime shows, and I'm learning it stems back kind of similar to me, and I'm sure a Bunch of. As it is with a bunch of you guys as well, it stems back to how. To the true crime that she was exposed to growing up versus a kid in New Jersey in what her mom was into. Her mom was obsessed with the Lindbergh case when her mom was young. And that kind of took over the radio airways for about 10 weeks. It was honestly was like the first podcast ever before we even knew what podcasts were. But that kind of that myth of that that true crime case lived large in Patti Smith's house, you know. And then later, of course there's the whole Manson thing that kind of, you know, enraptured, you know, everybody in 1969 who was a fan of rock and roll. And then of course her time in New York with the Son of Sam who I was talking about earlier. And all of this I, I believe kind of led to her surviving actually unlike a lot of her contemporaries and to her taste now in this kind of true crimey television series stuff. It's pretty interesting. Anyways, that's all gonna be mixed up in my Patti Smith story, which I'll have for you in a couple weeks. I cannot wait for you to hear. Anyways, recommendations. Maybe what we'll start doing is maybe Zeth and I were doing them in the wrap party. Maybe we'll start doing them more over there and some here. Why not both? Why not give the people what they want, right? You know what I want? I want a football team next year that doesn't suck. Now beyond that, I want a football team next year that's going to win the Super Bowl. So now it's time for the sports rant sponsored by five Hour Energy and their fruity rainbow flavor. Treat your taste buds to an explosion of fruity candy flavor with a tasty caffeine kick. Get candy flavored chaos with fruity rainbow 5 hour energy shots online at www.5hourenergy.com or Amazon. Alright guys, listen, listen. We were in the dead zone last week. The sports dead zone. You know, reduced to watching Slap shot for the 17th time and Rocky and whatever other sports movie is your flavor. We're no longer there because it's NFL free agency and I was expecting something big to happen and maybe it will. By the time you listen to this. I was expecting the Patriots. The Patriots, honestly, to sign Pierce from the Colts. Big splashy free agent signing wide receiver. Bring him in. Let's do it. I was convinced. But they didn't. Not yet anyways. Well, not with Pierce. He resigned with the Colts and Now they might have to trade for A.J. brown. They're going to have to give up draft picks and I don't like that. I don't like it at all. Why? Why? You're the Patriots. Why acting like the Red Sox? Spend the money. Spend it. You're like the third biggest franchise sports franchise in the world. Fourth, whatever it is. It's like Yankees, Cowboys, Man U and then the Patriots. What's up? You got the bread? Spend it. Make us proud. Drake May is not winning the super bowl with some low rent Stefon Diggs replacement. Why? Why'd you let go of Diggs too? Cardi B. Was that why you don't like Cardi B? Come on, she's entertaining. What's up? I think Cardi B let go of Stepon Diggs, though. Anyways, I am digressing, but that's what these rants are all about. You know, you just kind of just, they just, they just take you somewhere. Anyways, that was the sports rant sponsored by Five Hour Energy's Fruity Rainbow flavor. Treat yourself to a candy like Flavor Explosion and satisfy Sweet Tooth with the Zero Sugar treat. Once again, you can get in on the candy flavored chaos online at www.fivehourenergy.com or Amazon today. All right, All Access members, we're about to get into our exclusive portion of the After Party right here. Wanted to update the All Access members. We've been doing these mini episodes for the past few months. It's part of our offering. They're 10 minute stories that are driven out of the subject matter from that week's full episode. So for example, we've got Chrissy Hine coming up next week. And the mini episode is about how Chrissy Hine was directly responsible for launching the career of the Violent Femmes. It's a great story. The story, however, just it didn't fit into the story that we were telling. So we figured we'd find a way to do it in a separate piece of content. But here's the thing, rather than give you an extra bit on the menu, we're just going to increase the portion size, so to speak. From here on out, we're doing away with the mini episodes and we're going to start to give you slightly longer full episodes, probably about 40 minutes. Some are already 40 minutes, some go much longer, but typically they're usually around 30 minutes long. And we just figured, hey, why are we limiting ourselves to our storytelling? Let's just give them the whole story. Find a way to make it work. In the narrative, we're not hearing this tremendous roar of approval from you guys on the mini episodes. Seems like the All Access offering that you guys are most stoked on. You know, it's the extra content, but that's the after party extra content. Or it's the this film should be played loud content or it's the ad free listening. Those are the two things. Plus the community piece of the Patreon chat. Those are the things that we know matter to you guys most. This thing just, just feels like a little, you know, a little hanging extra thing there that, that we're having to do and nobody's really vibing on it. It's hard to find how it all fits together. So like I said, we're just doing away with those 10 minute mini episodes and we're gonna be giving you a little bit more content in the full episode. So, you know, in the end you're making out with the same amount of content. That's where we're at with the mini episode. Hope you guys are cool with this. Hope you understand if you're not, get at me. We'll find a way to make it up to you. Otherwise, All Access members, here's me and Szeth talking about Sting and how he's. His music is going to set us free from all. All that just globally has suppressed us and kept us down. And Sting's music is really gonna, you know, despite the fact that he's taking money from war criminals, that doesn't. Don't pay attention to that. Don't pay. His music shall set us free. We're gonna talk about that and so much more. A bunch of other artists, a bunch of other criminal gigs they played for millions and millions of dollars for war criminals. Coming up in the All Access portion of this after party right now. All right, guys, listen, as always, we mentioned a bunch of artists that we've covered in this episode today a ton. I can't go into all of them, but off the top of my head, Hank Williams, Talking Heads, Black Sabbath. And Matt's gonna have the episode information in the show notes section so that you can find those stories in our massive archive if you so choose. Okay, let's recap and let's get out of here. This week we got our new episode on Townes Van Zant. We are rewinding this week over to Paris and Serge Gainsbourg. Next week, our new episode on Chrissy Hine from the Pretenders. As always, Zeth's giving you those Hollywood and true crime vibes in the Hollywoodland episode, so make sure you are subscribed over there. He's also got his weekly rap party and his screening room. Number five. This film should be played loud. Our video podcast, our new episode on Boogie Nights is available for you right now. We get a new one, we're cooking up on the Big Lebowski. You're not gonna want to miss out on that. Gotta be a Patreon member to cop that content, though. Number 6, 617906, 6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, do not forget discos. This is not just content, it's a community. A community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right. On January 1st, New Year's Day, 1997, Townes Van Zant passed away. And this, this is what America was listening to on that day. According to the Billboard charts, number one, Unbreak My Heart, Tony Braxton. Last week one peak position one weeks on chart 12. Number two, R. Kelly. Last week two peak position two weeks on chart five. Number three, Don't Let Go, Love and Vogue. Last three, last peak position weeks on chart 10. Number four, Nobody, Keith Sweatt featuring Athena Cage. Last week five peak position three weeks on chart. Number five I believe. Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it. This episode is brought to you by Athletic Brewing company. No matter how you do game day, on the couch, in the crowd or manning the snack table, Athletic Brewing fits right in with a full lineup of non alcoholic beer styles you can enjoy bold flavors all game long. No hangovers, no buzz, no subbing out for water in the second half. 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