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Jake Brennan
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I don't want to get dressed up, but I haven't seen them in forever. I want to look nice. What am I going to wear? I don't like the stress of this, but I've got it figured out. I've got a solution. Quince. Quince makes incredible sweaters. Last year when I started working with Quince, I got hooked up with a Mongolian cashmere crewneck sweater which anytime the temperature dips below 70 degrees, I'm putting this thing on. Now they have these polo sweaters that are also Mongolian cashmere. Fantastic. And when I say sweater, I don't mean like a big, bulky Christmas sweater. I mean it's light, it's kind of fitted. It looks great, it's casual, but it also dresses you up. They've also got these cashmere fisherman quarter zip sweaters as well. These are fantastic. This is just like, I don't know, imagine you're hanging out with Anthony Bourdain or something down in Martha's Vineyard and you know, you're eating oysters. It's kind of chilly, but it's not too, too chilly. You're wearing this quince Mongolian cashmere fisherman quarter zip sweater. And you can wear it to the holiday party as well. It's going to look fantastic this season with those cold mornings, those holiday plans. This is when you want your wardrobe to be simple and easy. You want to look good, though. You want to look sharp, you want to feel good. Quint makes clothes that I actually want to wear out. And the bonus quintessential Quince makes great gifts as well. I can talk about the Mongolian cashmere sweaters until I'm blue in the face, but they're denim nails. The fit and everyday comfort that you're going to be looking for at a fraction of what you'd be expecting to pay. Quince has you guys covered for gifting that goes beyond clothing as well. Okay. You can get home items, bath, kitchen, travel. I mentioned before the great nappa leather duffel bag that I got from my wife from Quint, but that I ended up appropriating for myself. Just awesome stuff. You can't go wrong at Quints. Give and get. Timeless holiday staples that last this season with quints. Go to quints.com disgraceland for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q U I n c e.com Disgraceland Free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com Disgraceland hey, discos. Need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the afterparty. This is the show after the show, the party, after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission, to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story on this bonus episode, we're talking about music that the Incel movement loves. What we're digging into the greatest rock and roll records of all time, thanks to our new episode on AC DC, rewinding back to U2 and the murder of Rebecca Schaeffer. Previewing next week's new episode on fish, we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, and, as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. In 1985, they blamed ACDC for inspiring serial killer Richard Ramirez. In 1989, actress Rebecca Schaefer's murderer, Robert John Bardo, claimed U2 compelled him to kill. In 2018, Scott Borelli walked into a Florida yoga studio and shot and killed two women, wounding several others, before taking his own life. Music has always been an easy scapegoat, but it's never the songs. It's always who these killers already were. Schiaparelli was an incel, part of a group of involuntarily celibate men, young aggrieved dudes who believe the women who reject them and the more traditionally masculine men who outshine them exist to keep them down. This is also a group whose members have killed before and will kill again. And it's a group that loves music. Jazzy Lupito 988 M3ME's scissor with one C and a Z. These are the online usernames for the creators of Spotify Incel playlists with titles like Incel Virgin Loser Corps, Chronically Online, Autistic 4chan, Suicidal and Real Older Brother Niche Weird Kid Incel Indie Underground Loser Corps. If there's one theme that ties the songs on these playlists together, it's isolation. Songs like Just by Radiohead, Scott Pilgrim versus the World ruined a whole generation of women by Negative xp, In the Airplane, by the Sea by Neutral Milk Hotel, and an excellent and batshit crazy cover of Dion's 1959 hit Teenager in Love by Birdbath. The music is angsty and irreverent and lives on the nerdier side of the street. More Rivers Cuomo and Less Kurt Cobain and lots and lots of Morrissey. The Smiths occupy a special place in Incel music playlist culture. There are entire Incel playlists dedicated to Tunes penned by Stephen Patrick Morrissey and Johnny Marr. And it makes sense. Few bands in the last 50 years have better captured despair and alienation. And not to mention the fact that Morrissey for much of his career publicly identified as celibate. When incel Scott Borelli killed two women and injured five others before taking his own life in a Tallahassee hot yoga studio, he did so after posting his own music online. Angry, sneering, hostile songs. Not metal, not hardcore rap, but instead lo fi rejection rock rage turned inward. Not dissimilar from Radiohead or the Smiths or, well, most of the music populating the incel playlist online universe. I'm not suggesting music played a part in Scott Borelli's motivation, nor am I blaming musicians for inspiring incels to murder. But it's only a matter of time before someone does. The 2018 Toronto van attack where a self described incel murdered 11 in an effort to incite a so called incel rebellion. The 2014 Isla Vista killings when a 22 year old man murdered six and injured 14 others in an attempt to punish women who rejected him and the sexually active men he believed humiliated him. These are just two of what are numerous examples of incel killings. Eventually there will be more murder committed by young men who are chronically online, detached from reality and obsessing over music. Algorithms now feed grievance faster than ever. Music, like politics and religion, is just another on ramp for the aggrieved. For those who Paul Schrader and Thomas Wolfe once called God's lonely man, it turns out the modern version of God's Lonely man has pretty good taste in music. Just like Richard Ramirez, who envisioned himself as the killer in ACDC's Night Prowler, and Robert John Bardo, who was obsessed with U2's exit. But music isn't the murder weapon. Music is the mirror. AC DC's night prowler wasn't a command When Bon Scott whispered about slipping into someone's room after dark, he was setting fictional pulp horror lyrics over a menacing beat. Richard Ramirez didn't hear instructions on how to kill. He felt recognition. God's lonely man felt seen. U2's exit did the same for Robert John Bardo. Bono wrote the tune as a character study of a man undone by violence and faith, a spiritual collapse. But to Bardo, a mentally ill man obsessed with fame, all he heard was a soundtrack to his own delusion. The same dynamic is at play with modern incel music. These playlists don't inspire violence, they reflect it. They echo the delusions of the men obsessing over them. The music isn't radicalizing them, it's validating their despair. Again, the music is the mirror, not the weapon. The problems consuming the Incel community go much deeper than music. These are young men raised online, coddled and medicated as children, brought up in low to no stakes social environments, and who are helplessly unequipped to function in the real world, outcasts as alienated as the musicians whose songs fill their playlists. It's only a matter of time before they kill again. And when they do, people will eventually point to Incel music as a scapegoat and smash the mirror instead of looking into what it shows us. And that will be a disgrace. I'll be back after this with your calls, texts, voicemails and more. 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And we thought that made this a perfect time to look back, see what the hell we did and why the show still seems to resonate with fans around the world today. Follow and listen to How We Made youe Mother wherever you get your podcasts. Come to DSW for the shoes. Stay for the fun. Because let's be honest, if shoe shopping isn't fun, are you even doing it right? So go ahead, try something new. Try something different, Good different. Try something that feels like you. You know, the real you. And then definitely brag about it later. Because at DSW you can got unlimited freedom to play. Find the shoes that get you at prices that get your budget at DSW stores or@dsw.com Let us surprise you. All right, we are back. And speaking of the question about music inspiring death and destruction, we're going to set our sights away from the dark corners of the incel Internet and turn to the Philippines for a little peeling back of the onion of the My Way killings. These are the murders inspired by Frank Sinatra's My Way Toon. You know, that makes sense. This might be the weirdest social phenomenon that I've ever heard of. This is the thing where numerous people in the Philippines were killed in connection to their performance of the song in karaoke bars. Seth and I knew very little about this until recently. And we're going to unpack this wild story in today's exclusive portion of this here after party, which you can hear by becoming an all access member of Disgraceland. For just five bucks a month, you get additional exclusive content like this ad, free listening and more. Go to Disgracelandpod.com to sign up before prices go up at the end of this month. All right, so I landed on this incel playlist topic earlier because this week in Disgraceland we launched our AC DC Part two episode along with rewinding our part one story. And that story deals with the band being blamed for inspiring Richard Ramirez, the serial killer. And our rewind episode this week is on U2. And with that episode, we have more killer inspiration with Robert John Bardo and the Rebecca schaer murder. That U2 episode will be available in tomorrow's rewind spot coming up right after this episode. Lots of music this week supposedly inspiring murder, but I'm done talking about that. Okay, I want to talk about a theme that we hit on in our new episode, our new ACDC episode this week. Great rock and roll records. The greatest rock and roll records. This question was prompted, of course, because ACDC's album back in Black was for a minute there, the greatest selling album of all time. Not just the greatest selling rock record of all time, the greatest selling album of all time. A couple years later, Michael Jackson's Thriller came along and topped it. But still Back in Black, still sitting there in the number two spot. So that prompted our question, what's the greatest rock and roll record of all time? We're gonna hear your answers here. And I gotta, I gotta say, pretty surprised by the consensus from you guys. Semi consensus from you guys on this topic. Gonna give you my answer after we hear from you guys. Vastly different from where you're coming from. Well, let's. Without further ado, let's check out Junior in the 71 4.
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Podcast Listener
Hey, Jake, this is Junior from the 714 and I believe, and this is just me, the greatest rock album of all time is David Bowie, Ziggy Stardust, and the Spiders from Mars. It's like a visual for your brain, just perfectly constructed in a perfect, perfect story of the fallen rock star has rock and roll, it has your power ballads, it has your tragic end and just can be played over and over. And I could never get tired of it. Well, thank you for what you're doing. You are freaking awesome. Greatest storyteller ever. Have a good one, Jake. Talk to you later, Junior.
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Jake Brennan
Thanks for the call. I love the Ziggy Stardust album. And I love this answer. I love it. I get the visual component here. The little theater of the mind that's going on. The theatrics, I should say the narrative, all of it. It's tremendous storytelling in this record. There's ballads. It's a super dynamic sounding album. I love this choice. I wouldn't have thought of this on my own. It's not my choice. But I fully understand, Junior, why, why you're picking this. And you have some company. Let's hear what the 916 has to say.
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Podcast Listener
Hi, Jake, this is Mr. Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina, calling to answer the question from last week. Greatest album of all time, no skips. And this is a tough one in its simplicity, as you said. You know, as a kid growing up in the late 80s and 90s, born to boomer parents who loved music. But when I came into this world, they gave me this sense that all of it had been decided that the Beatles were the greatest band of all time and there was no discussion about it, that all the greatest music had already been made. So as a kid discovering music myself, I kind of took offense to this idea. And it took me a long time to come around to it. You know, it's like kids these days being told that Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time. I get the pushback. I mean, Obviously they're wrong. MJ's the man. But when I was coming up as a kid, it took me a long time to get to some of these great albums. But when I got into my 20s, I went back with fresh eyes and ears and I listened to some of them. And I came to the conclusion that David Bowie's Ziggy Stardust is probably, if not the greatest, start to finish album of all time. I mean, there are no skips. It is a concept album, but every single song is an absolute banger. Starting with Five years, obviously. Moon Age Daydream, Ziggy Stardust, Rock and Roll Suicide. The album starts and finishes in the same way, with absolute searing rock. Nick Ronson's guitar is undeniable. David Bowie is in his element. The greatest album he's ever made, the greatest character he's ever purveyed. And it is, in my opinion, the greatest album from start to finish. No skips that has ever been recorded. That's my piece. Thanks a lot, Rocka rolla.
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Jake Brennan
All right, before I get into your answer. 916, I totally relate to the. The offense you take at the. Hey, everything's been figured out for you, man. Don't worry about it. We already decided what the greatest records are. Basically every fucking music documentary pre 1999 about the history of music or, you know, the history of social culture in America. Anyhow, I love that we have another entry here for Ziggy Stardust coming from the 916. It's fantastic. And this album strikes a chord. Clearly. You mentioned that it's a concept album. It transcends the concept album. I think it's more. It's just because the song's on it. I don't think of Ziggy is a concept album. I know it sounds crazy, it's clearly defined as such, but it just has such great single song bangers on it that are undeniable, that can be heard anywhere. You mentioned a bunch of them. I'm not gonna belabor it, but just fantastic. And oh, by the way, yes, Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time. They got that one right. All right, let's check out this topic. More on this topic, let's go to the text machine. And I want to read this text from the 47 0, Dave from Georgia. Dave wants to go ahead and just let us know that he's nominating Tools Enema. And I can't argue with you. I mean, I could, but I won't. I get it. I get it. You're going to listen to this forever. That's what you're telling us, Dave. And you have every right to. It's an awesome record. I don't quite think that it is. Oh, what? You know, who am I to say? A lot of people love Tool. I overlook the Tool fans. I shouldn't. You guys are legion. We talked about this before, particularly around the gender splits in Tool fandom. And I heard loud and clear from you guys. So, Dave, I appreciate this. 470 Davis nominating tools enema as the greatest rock record. Let's check out for something different here. The 310 who writes in the One Rock album. If I could only ever listen to one album again, says the 310 would be rolling Stone, Sticky Fingers best album by one of the best bands that defines rock and is my go to when I can't select through all the many records on the shelves. So in some ways already is my one record to rule them all. That's from Joe and the three One zero. Joe. I hear you. It's a great one. It's my. I guess it's my second favorite Stones album. Exile being my first. Exile being. You know, there's a handful of double albums in the history of rock and roll that are truly great and Exile to me is one if not the greatest. I don't know. I think I like it more than the White Album. I do. I definitely do. But it's not my favorite rock record. We'll get to that in a minute. 724 writes in hey Jake, it's Anthony. And as I listen at my job as an insurance accountant to get through the day, you asked for the best no Skip album. And if I had to say one for my generation, I'm 33. I'd pick American Idiot. Genuinely solid start to finish. That's the Green Day album. American idiot from the 724. Anthony in the 724 who goes on to say, though my personal favorite no skip that probably won't count is Alison Chains Jar of Flies ep, you're right, doesn't count. It's an ep. It's definitely no skip though. Love it. It's my favorite Alice in Chains too. By the way. Good health to you and yours in later days from the 72 4. Appreciate you 72 4. Before we move on from this topic, my favorite rock and roll album is not ACDC's back in black, but it is an ACDC album. And I mention it in, I think both are ACDC episodes. It's powerage. It's just incredible for an ACDC album. It's pretty dynamic for a rock and roll record. Not that dy. It kind of delivers over and over again on the same vibe all throughout. And that is just a dirty ass rock and roll band that I imagine would just destroy your night in the best possible way were you to just stumble upon them playing those tunes in a little bar back in the 1970s. I can't get enough of this album. I've never gotten sick of it. It defines the band for me. It defines rock and roll for me. And if you want a breakdown of exactly what I mean, you can listen to the, go back and listen to the first ACBC episode. It pretty, pretty thickly. But yeah, that's my choice. It's. It kind of defies the criterion I set up earlier in the last episode when I asked this question. I guess it's not, it's not that dynamic. Like I said, it's not that varied. It kind of does one thing, but I don't know. Like I said, I just fucking love it. I love it and I can listen to it forever. So there you go. Boring answer from me. Boring. I know. Not as, not as thoughtful as the Ziggy Stardust answer. But what can I say? You guys are more thoughtful for me. Speaking of which, let's check out this text from the 2 to 8 who writes, hey, discos, this is Michelle with one L. And I'm reaching out to tell you what I'm watching right now. I did watch Black Rabbit, which I thought was really good. And I finished watching the Monster with Ed Gein, the Ed Gein story. But the one that I'm most excited to tell you about is called Ratchet. It's a really, really great movie. And the nurse is in it, based on the Nurse and One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. Dang, that's fantastic. As I read this, I'm piecing together that this is actually a message for Szeth. But I don't care. Michelle with one L. You're getting a little love here in Disgraceland, as I'm sure you're gonna get it in Hollywoodland as well. Michelle includes a picture of, well, part of herself in front of the mirror. And she says, here I've included a picture of my mirror where I jot down things that y' all tell me I need to watch or listen to or whatever. And there's some marker notes all over Michelle with one L's mirror here. And looks like I can see your robe there as well. I'm gonna stop it there. Michelle, thank you for the, for the message. We appreciate it. Guys. 617-906-6638. You want to get in touch, want to talk about whatever, go for it. I'm here and I will continue to be here next week when our long awaited new episode on Matt. Give me a drum roll, drum roll, please. As they say in the biz, that biz being show business, give it to him at. Stretch it out, man. Make it count. Come on, build up the anticipation. Our next episode is on the fish. Excuse Me. I mean fish, not the fish. What am I saying? Fish. Anyway, when listening to this new Fish episode, I would like you guys to be thinking about what music y' all like to listen to when you're, you know, you know, stoned, high, gummied up, perhaps flying on a few cocktails, as they say. What are you kicking back to and putting on the stereo when you're unwinding with perhaps, I don't know, some of the stuff that Trey got into, some of the not so adult stuff, some of the more recreational, fun stuff that doesn't kill you. What music do you like to listen to? What records do you like to listen to when you're, you know, under the influence? That's the question. That's going to be our question of the week next week in honor of the fish. I mean fish. Excuse me. Call me 617-906-6638. Text me, leave me a voicemail, hit me up on the socials disgracelandpod and let me know. You might hear your answer right here in the afterparty. All right, I'll be back in a flash. Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to start. Thumbtack knows homes, so you don't have to. Don't know the difference between matte paint finish and satin or what that clunking sound from your dryer is with thumbtack. You don't have to be a home pro. You just have to hire one. You can hire top rated pros, see price estimates and read reviews all on the app download today. All right, Matt, give me the Drake May buzzer beater. Wait, hold up. Actually, not yet. I'm always jumping the gun, Bowden. Hold it. Hold it now. Hold it now. This is the 60 second sports rant in under 30 seconds and it is once again sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new Pumpkin spice flavor, your favorite fall drink. In an energy shot, you can pick up a pumpkin spice 5 hour energy shot available online at 5hourenergy.com or Amazon. All right, Matty, hit me with the ticky tock. There we go. I called this the Drake May buzzer beater because I'm afraid, I'm fearful it's no longer Halloween season. But I'm freaked out. How long, how long before Drake May takes off out of my New England Patriots backfield and is walloped with a season ending injury? The dude needs to learn how to slide. And the Patriots, they've got to take the pressure off this kid and play better. It can't be The Drake may show every damn weekend. Okay, one, he's going to get killed trying to make plays with his feet. Two, you cannot win a Super bowl this way. I thought the Patriots are going to go out at the trade deadline this week and pick up an edge rusher, maybe some safety, depth, perhaps a running back that has hands that work and can hold on to the damn football. Anything to take the pressure off. But no, they didn't. They didn't do anything. They traded for dick Bupkis is what they did. As in nothing. Not a zilch. Let's hope they know what they're doing and our quarterback stays healthy. Matt, how did I do? 55 seconds, Jake. Got it under a minute. Well, maybe I need some trade deadline out, Matt. Maybe that's what it is. All right, that was the sports rant sponsored by five Hour Energy's new Pumpkin Spice flavor. These new Pumpkin Spice five Hour Energy shots are fall in a bottle and bring that classic pumpkin spice flavor that we all know and love. Our favorite fall drink. In an energy shot, you can pick up a pumpkin spice 5 hour energy shot available on online at 5hourenergy.com or Amazon. All right, I have not seen the Springsteen movie, and I don't believe Matt has either. I'm not motivated to. I've seen some clips. We've talked a little bit about this. I'm. Yeah, man, I don't know. Anyway, Zest has seen it, okay? And he's talking about it over in the Hollywoodland Rap party, which you can hear today by following and subscribing to the Hollywoodland feed, wherever you get your podcasts. Now, I don't know if you guys heard, but we're rolling out these new mini episodes to Disgrace and All Access members. These stories are the excess excess. The wild, weird and interesting music history tales that just don't fit into our full episodes. All right, this week we've got an insane one. Okay, we've got just a craze. This could have been the entire full episode and it's the story that I came upon. I came to it late, I'll admit. I came to it when we first got into researching acdc and I read the Jesse Fink book on Bon Scott and there's this insane theory. It's more than a theory. There's a lot of evidence that backs this up. A lot of people going on the record and talking about this, and there's a lot of circumstantial evidence as well that points to this quote unquote theory being True. And it's the theory that Brian Johnson, the singer on Back in Black, was not responsible for writing the lyrics or all of the lyrics, excuse me, with the young brothers, and that prior to his death, Bon Scott had actually finished writing the lyrics to the entire album. Now there's some question of, you know, how many of the lyrics he actually did finish. And there's a huge question of if this even happened, that the young brothers have denied it over and over again, but they've also said some things that kind of open the door a little bit. It's a, it's a. I don't want to say shady, but there's a lot of gray area here and it's a fascinating, fascinating topic to discuss and to try and unpack. So that's what we do in the mini episode. And Matt, give him a little taste. Given that Back In Black is the second biggest selling record of all time, the matter of the album's legitimacy is important. Did the band members who are credited as writing the music for that album actually write the music for that album? Yes and possibly no. ACDC's guitarist brothers Malcolm and Angus Young are credited with writing the music on Back in Black alongside singer Brian Johnson, who had just joined the band prior to Back In Black's recording as the recently deceased Bon Scott's replacement. Of the 10 songs on back In Black, all are credited to Malcolm Young, Angus Young and Brian Johnson. And it should be noted that acdc, Angus Young and Brian Johnson specifically have denied that Bon Scott had anything to do with the writing of the songs on Back In Black. However, this vicious rumor persists that Brian Johnson did not write the lyrics for Back In Black, that Bon Scott, prior to dying, had indeed written the lyrics for the songs on the second biggest selling album of all time. Now, again, AC DC has vehemently denied this claim, but two of Bon Scott's girlfriends are on record saying that Bon Scott absolutely was writing the lyrics for AC DC's next album before he died in 1980. And that next record was of course, Back In Black. In fact, his girlfriend, Silver Smith has stated publicly that on the night the Bond died, Bond was in fact celebrating that he had just finished writing the lyrics for what would become the band's next record, and the band was set to go to the studio straight away and record. Now, when these rumors began to surface, Malcolm Young said point blank that Bon Scott had nothing to do with the writing of Back In Black. Angus Young said the same thing numerous times. And in his autobiography, Brian Johnson later said, unequivocally that he wrote all of the lyrics on Back in Black. He wrote everything but the lyrics on Back in Black. Many seem like lyrics. Bon Scott would write. She told me to come, but I was already there. That sounds like a Bon Scott lyric. It really does. But that doesn't prove anything. Brian Johnson was literally trying to replace what the previous ACDC singer Bon Scott was doing. So naturally to please the fans, even if he was doing it unintentionally, he's going to try and do some of the same things that the dude who just died who he's replacing had done. So when people bring up the fact that the lyrics sound like Bon Scott lyrics, it doesn't mean a lot to me. However, after Bon Scott died, in very short order, in a matter of hours, Bon Scott's London apartment was cleared out. His tv, his fancy new VCR machine, his clothes, his other personal effects, they were all taken. And so was the notebook that Bon Scott was writing his lyrics in. All right, that's our newest Disgraceland mini episode on the Back In Black lyrics. Controversy concerning ACDC and that theme music, that banger theme Music created by Mr. Matt Bowden is worth the price of a mission. You can hear it every week. By becoming an All Access member, you're going to get exclusive content just like that. Just like the additional content coming up in the exclusive section of the after party. To become an All Access member, it's super easy. Just go to disgraceandpod.com you can sign up there for five bucks a month and that price will hold until for a couple more weeks now and then it's going to go up and you'll get the exclusive content I'm talking about and you'll also get ad free listening and access to all the other discos in the chat. It was cool, man. The other night last night we were on Patreon. If you sign up via Patreon, you know there's all this stuff we do over there every other week or so. Some sort of live, some sort of connection, community thing. And we did this thing last night where we all jumped on and we made a mixtape together. It was very cool. Mixtape for our upcoming cooking plans for Thanksgiving. Had a bunch of listeners on with us contributing song ideas. It was awesome. So we do stuff like that too. Get access to that. If you become a member on Patreon, you can also become a member on Apple Podcasts, Neutral Milk Hotel, the Smiths, Radio Head, and we don't have any Disgraceland episodes on these artists and we should for sure, the Smiths, and I don't know how to do one on Radiohead, but there's gotta be something there. Somebody, I believe somebody wrote, wrote me or called and left me some information on Neutral Milk Hotel as well, which would be really cool. Oh, it was Seth, actually. Zeth was talking about doing an episode on Neutral Milk Hotel. Anyway, we don't have episodes on these guys, but we have episodes on 255 different artists. So different stories on artists. 255 episodes. You know what I'm saying? Everyone you can think of. Amy Winehouse, Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones, Cardi B, Tommy James and the Shondells. I mean, come on. Endless, Lil Wayne, Oasis. I mean, come on. If you have questions on how to locate any of these episodes in our archive, hit us up. You know where to find us. We're easy to get at. We'll sort it out for you, point you in the right direction. I got to get out of here, though. My kid's playing in a playoff game tonight. I'm very excited about it. We will check that out. Before I do that, however, I got a recap. So, number one, this week's full episode or part two episode on acdc, that's available for you right now, a new mini episode for All Access members on ACDC's Back in Black lyrics controversy. Who really wrote those tunes? Was it Bon Scott? Brian Johnson? Well, you can find out by becoming an All Access member and listening to the new mini episode. All right, number three, rewind episode on U2 coming up right after this. Number four, next week comes our new episode on the Fish 5. Zeth gives you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland, so make sure you're subscribed. Number six, 617906, 6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else y' all want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos. This isn't just content, it's a community. A community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right, on November 6, 2014, ACDC drummer Phil Rudd was arrested in what was one of the weirdest examples of life imitating art that I've ever come across. And here's what America was listening to on that day. Number one, all about that bass, Meghan Trainor. Last week, one weeks on chart 16 peak position one number two shake it off Taylor Swift last week two weeks on chart 10 peak position one number three habits stay high tove low last week five weeks on churn 22 peak position three number.