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Jake Brennan
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So you're not paying for these big brand markups, you're just paying for the quality clothes. And again, everything is built to hold up. It's built for daily wear. So it's going to look good season after season. Refresh your wardrobe with quints. Go to quince.com Disgraceland for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's q-u I n c e.com Disgraceland free shipping and 365 day returns. Quint.com Disgraceland hey discos. We have a special treat for you today in the feed. Today we are unveiling to all of you, a or most of you anyways, a special sneak peek at our new video podcast. This Film Should Be Played Loud. This Film should be Played Loud is a new monthly podcast co hosted by myself, Disgraceland host of course Jake Brennan and Hollywoodland's Seth Lundy. In this new show, Zeth and I tackle our favorite topic, the convergence of music and film. This is kind of like a combination of Disgraceland and Hollywoodland, but just centered around the music in movies. Each episode of this film should be Played Loud is a discussion about the great music in an equally great movie that we both love. Soundtracks Needle Drops Scores we take you into the moments in these films where music heightens the storytelling and the movie watching experience. We tackle one film in every episode. So if you want to know about what drove Martin Scorsese's incredible song selection for the Goodfellas soundtrack, or curious to understand how the songs and train spotting impacted 90s pop culture, or maybe you want to hear why Boogie Nights contains the single greatest performance by an actor in a recording studio ever captured on film. All of these topics are covered in our episodes. Songs from movies that sent us down rabbit holes, Scenes with songs by that musician who became your favorite, who you didn't know you loved until you saw the film, how films soundtrack the devil and the tunes you hated before they made it onto the screen but that you now love. We discuss all this and more in this film should be Played loud now. This new podcast is available to watch and listen to exclusively on Patreon for our Disgraceland All Access members go to Disgracelandpod.com to sign up now and use display discount code DISCO for 20% off your monthly or yearly membership. But act now because this discount is only available for a limited time. Again, this podcast this film should be played loud. It's not going to be available here in the Disgraceland feed or in the Hollywoodland feed. You can only get it on Patreon and again, you can watch it and you can listen to it. All right, as promised, we're now going to let you hear our first episode of this film should be played loud on the great soundtrack for the incredible film Goodfellas. You can hear it here for a limited time in the Disgraceland feed, but all Access members can watch this Goodfellas episode along with, like I said, episodes on train spotting, Boogie Nights and more to come all over on Patreon by becoming Disgraceland All Access members. As always guys, thank you for your support. Without further ado, here is this film should be played loud. I'm gonna go get my shine box right? Is that what we're doing? Is that the way?
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Seth Lundy
Yeah, yeah, go get your shine box. I'm gonna go pistol whip my neighbor across the street and go to bed.
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Jake Brennan
You want some fucko? Welcome to the first episode of this film should be played loud in exclusive video podcast for our Patreon listeners. A podcast about great music in great film. This first episode is is on Goodfellas and it's incredible soundtrack. They often call me Speedo, but my real name is Mr. Jake Brennan, that's Dr. Zeth Lundy, my co host. Seth, how are you, my man?
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Seth Lundy
I'm doing great, man. I'm psyched to talk about Goodfellas. It's turned 35 this year.
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Jake Brennan
I know that's crazy. That is. I was. I. I was 1990. It came out. I was 16 years old. I saw it at the Sears Town Mall in Leominster, Massachusetts. I went with a. A bunch of friends from Clinton, I believe. Bruce Millett took us in what would have been a big black Cadillac arriving in style. And I think my good friend Mr. Dave Dutch, now ski. Was with us. I can't remember who else. Probably Seth Sau, Sean Hastings. Anyways, we all saw this and, you know, it was just. I didn't know anything about Martin Scorsese. I didn't know really that much about Robert De Niro. I was just 16 years old. But what I did know about was the Rolling Stones and, oh, my God, what this movie did for the Rolling Stones. We're gonna talk about that later. But I want to know how you first saw this movie and how the music impacted you at the age you were at when you finally saw Goodfellas.
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Seth Lundy
You know, I was thinking about that earlier. I did not see it in the theater. This came out in 1990. So I was, you know, I was 13 when it came out. Just about to go into high school, or I was going into high school and I did not see it in the theater. I don't know when I saw. Wasn't one of the first Scorsese films I saw, because I remember very early on seeing Raging Bull and Taxi Driver and some of the earlier ones like that first and then getting into Goodfellas later. But to your point, the music aspect of it really. We'll get into this some more later. But. But it really illuminated some musical icons for me that weren't illuminated for me at the time. Right.
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Jake Brennan
Pre Internet era. Yeah, you're not scrolling through it. You don't have the benefit of streaming scrolling. None of that. You got your snobby record store guy. You got your friend who's got an older brother at college. I actually had a friend in high school around the same time whose older brother went to school in London or somewhere in England. I think it was London. But he had. This sounds weird. This sounds like something you would hear somebody who grew up in the 1960s say. But it just goes.
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Seth Lundy
It.
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Jake Brennan
You couldn't. We just didn't have the access to music.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
Like we did. I mean, CDs weren't even a thing yet. So it was cassettes for us. And no one really listened to vinyl except their parents. And they weren't really using record players anymore.
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Seth Lundy
And.
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Jake Brennan
And Chad Taylor's older brother, I think he got them from going to. Going to Call. He had all the early singles. It ended up being that singles box set. And Chad would make me tape. So I had all that. I had Memo From Turner, I had.
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Seth Lundy
You know, that blows my mind. I didn't know about Memo From Turner until, like, way, way, way, way longer.
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Jake Brennan
Yeah, well, I didn't. I didn't know the actual lineage of Memo From Turner. And there's some interesting history with the film here, so. So Memo from Turner is. Is a obscure Mick Jagger song that the Rolling Stones recorded. It was first recorded by the Stones. Then I think I have this right. It was first recorded by the Rolling Stones. Then Mick re recorded it with John Hyatt and some members of the Rolling Stones. I think. God, there's. There's somebody else famous who plays on this. On this track.
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Seth Lundy
Rye Cooter plays slide on it.
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Jake Brennan
Did I say Giant?
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Seth Lundy
I said John Hyatt. I meant.
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Jake Brennan
Right.
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Seth Lundy
Cooter.
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Jake Brennan
Ry Cooter. Yeah.
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Seth Lundy
And this is for the performance soundtrack, right?
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Jake Brennan
Performance soundtrack. Right. I remember you and Hemlock Road in 1956. You're a faggot little leather boy with a smaller piece of stick. And that's the version that's in Goodfellas. It's in that incredible run of. Of the helicopter scene. Right. Everyone knows the helicopter scene from Goodfellas. This might be.
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Seth Lundy
You're jumping ahead here, but you're getting excited.
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Jake Brennan
Whatever. We have no format. This is just all about, you know, music in movies that we love. So the helicopter scene, I went back and I looked. It's. It's the best mixtape inside of a movie that I. That I've ever come across. And it's. It feels like it's a long tape when you think of the impact of it, but it's actually pretty short. It's Jumping the Fire by Harry Nilsson. Then it goes to Memo From Turner. The Mick Jagger version, however, incorrectly credited in the soundtrack as a Rolling Stone song. It's actually not Mick Jagger version.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
Then it goes into, like, a couple seconds of the live version of Magic Bus by the who. And then it goes into Monkey Man. And then what is Life by George Harrison? You kind of feel like he's getting away with it. Like he's getting away with it. And then Manish Boy by Muddy Waters. And then, of course, the Writing's on the wall for Henry Hill.
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Seth Lundy
But. But hang on. The best part about that whole stretch, for me at least my favorite part is in between Monkey man and what is Life, there's just the briefest clip of Muddy Waters at the beginning of Mana's Boy going, yes, everything. Yes, everything is gonna be all right this morning.
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Jake Brennan
That's it. Everything. Everything gonna be all right this morning.
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Seth Lundy
And then it cuts right into what is life. And you're like, what the is going on here?
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Jake Brennan
You're absolutely right. And you know, in that. Okay, so we. We need to talk about Scorsese's approach here. Before Goodfellas, Scorsese is famously the guy because of Mean Streets. He's famously the guy who uses rock and roll to express emotion. To use rock and roll songs, pop songs, to express emotion in film, as opposed to using score. There's. Okay, so by the time he gets to Goodfellas, you know, he's already gone through and he's worked up the script with Nicholas Peggi, and he's got like. He's. He's indicating in the margins what songs he wants. And I read an interview with the. The music editor for the film where he said that Scorsese knew two years in advance what songs exactly he wanted playing in which frames of the film.
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Seth Lundy
He was putting it in the script. He was like, put cream, Sunshine of your love here. Exactly.
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Jake Brennan
Peggi's rereading the script, and he's. It just. It didn't say Sunshine of Love. It just said add cream. Yeah, Pledge. He's like, what the do you mean, add Cream? He's like. You know, it's interesting, when I read this thing about the music editor from Goodfellas making a big deal, the fact that Scorsese knew exactly what songs he wanted in the film two years in advance, it didn't strike me as being strange. No. I was just like, well, yeah, that's how you do it, dude. Right, right. But it's not how you do it. I mean, I've actually. I've worked on indie films and stuff. I've music supervised stuff and did music for. For a film, a Parker Posey film. And the director was a friend. He was basically like, I don't know shit about music. You figure it out. And I feel like that's an approach that a lot of directors have.
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Seth Lundy
I think you're right. But remember that Scorsese started. I mean, one of his first major gigs was the Woodstock movie, which he's credited for now as an editor. But I believe at the time, this was in that, that Mr. Scorsese documentary that was on Apple recently. He was like the second director of that movie. So, like, he's, he's creating that movie, he's cutting that movie with music at the forefront of his mind.
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Jake Brennan
Right, exactly, exactly. And he's obviously, he's surrounded by great live music. Santana, Sly Stone, all that stuff.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
But this is after he grows up. And this is the good thing about Goodfellas. It really feels like a, like, I don't know, it was growing up in my small town, it was very much like this where, you know, we all hung out on this main drag. Right. And you would just hear there just be this soundtrack constantly. Cars driving by. People still carried boom boxes around. I'm not trying to make it sound like I grew up in the Bronx. I didn't. But music was kind of like it was more in the air then than it is now. Now everyone's got, you know, earpods on and, you know, their little pods in their cars and whatever. It just, it was, it was different then. And. And I feel like it was much different and a much more extreme version of what I just explained in a tiny little sort of, you know, two block stretch of downtown New York where Martin Scorsese grew up in the 1960s. And that sort of like, jukebox system that he was living in.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
And that's what that movie feels like all the way throughout the beginning. I mean, the first, you know, the opening is, you know, by the time he blows up the cars you've already whipped through, like your ears are just on fire from all the incredible soundtracking that's going on.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah, it's like a radio station, you know, it's just like switching the channels. It's doo wop, exact group. It's Italian. It's, it's, it's, it's all over the place.
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Jake Brennan
But it's what he would have heard, right?
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Seth Lundy
Exactly.
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Jake Brennan
He's so fearless with his music choices and confident and, you know, I don't care, man. Like. Like, I. I know we all love Memo from Turner and Monkey man, but no one knew those songs except Stone's Heads. And they'd be like, well, if you're gonna put a Stone song in there, give me Shelter. I understand, but, you know, why not Jumping Jet? Why not Brown Sugar? Why not? Hey, they got the new Steel Wheels album, just came out. Why don't we use the song off that?
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Jake Brennan
Like, and he's like, no, you.
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Seth Lundy
It's these Songs I never heard the Point earlier, talking about Memo from Turner. I had never heard Monkey Man. I had never heard Memo from Turner. I never heard Harry Nelson's Jump in the Fire. I never heard any of these songs until I saw them in Goodfellas.
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Jake Brennan
Yeah. Yeah. It really. And then think of, like. I was thinking about this, too. It does. This movie does a lot for Eric Clapton, who I have a real rough relationship with.
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Seth Lundy
Like, I think we all do. But.
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Jake Brennan
Yes. Yeah. Like, the. The Rolling Stones were. I was kind of like. I was in my group of friends. I was like the guy who listened. I was the Stones guy, but I was also the guy who listened to, like, old music. And it's only. It's. I'm not trying to, you know, inflate my taste as a young Wes Anderson character, but my dad had a massive record collect, so I had access to shit that other my friends didn't. Right.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
But I was like the Stones guy. I was always. I was always trying to push the Stones on people. And, you know, people were going. Go so far because they were fucking lame in 19.
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Seth Lundy
All we knew was rocking a hard place at the late 80s. You know what I mean? Yes.
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Jake Brennan
Yes, it was. They were lame. Those records sucked. Those 1980s records sucked. Steel Wheels, I like now.
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Seth Lundy
I kind of like Steel Wheels now. I gotta. I gotta admit. Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
Hated it then. And all my friends. Right. As well. But then Goodfellas happens, and it's like, oh, yeah. And I'm sitting there going, see, I. I told you pricks. You know, like, listen, listen. However. We have to talk about Clapton, and we have to talk. There's something. This happens. It happens twice in this movie with me. I've never been an Eric Clapton fan. I'm becoming one. I'm becoming one. But we used to, you know. You know, 10 years after Goodfellows is out now, it's like shorthand. And it's in the culture, it's in the zeitgeist. And we're hanging out upstairs at the Middle east or whatever with our friends, and we're like, layla's on. Or like. And, you know, the piano part happens. We're like, this is the best shit Clapton ever did, you know, because he's not on it. It's like.
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Seth Lundy
Right. Right. Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
At that point.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
But it cemented that song for me. I love it. I. I fucking love the tune, the whole thing, the entire song. It's fantastic. And I gotta say, like, you know, sunshine of your love I showed Goodfellas to Harlan my 11 year old the other night. And that scene, Jimmy Conway at the bar, down. And it's. When he's real, he realizes he's gonna kill Morty.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah. And then he's taking that long drag on the cigarette. Yeah. Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
It's pure evil. And Sunshine of youf Love is playing. It's getting. And my son just goes like, that was it. Like, he was so moved by that. Like, viscerally, like, you know, he just knew how awesome that was.
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Seth Lundy
I love that. I love that. That's great. That's great. You know, there's something about the way. I think it was Philip Seymour Hoffman who once said that cigarettes are great for actors because it gives them something to do with their hands. Like, but. But De Niro really knows how to, like the pull on that cigarette.
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Jake Brennan
Yeah.
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Seth Lundy
Like, he doesn't have to say anything. You just. That and the song. And in the song, you hear Eric Clapton say, it's getting near dark. Right? It's getting near dark.
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Jake Brennan
And it's like.
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Seth Lundy
Like. Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
Wow. Wow. So I. In just like the rolling stones in 1990 were fucking dead. Clapton was nothing in 1990.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
I mean, the lamest. You know, like my friend's dad's like, Derek Clapton. You know, it was that whole.
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Seth Lundy
We joke about this, but it's that whole divorce rock era really is. What's that shit? What was that record he had out?
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Jake Brennan
It was Promises from that. That's not the one. It's. It's Promises. He is a song promise. I love that. I love that shit. Now, that's the thing.
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Seth Lundy
No, I do too.
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Jake Brennan
Hold on.
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Seth Lundy
But he had a. He, like. He had this incredible divorce rock record at that time. Journeyman came out in 1989. Journeyman had pretending, Running On Faith, Bad Love, no Alibis. This was like the super slick AOR Eric Clapton, which. Which sort of made him super lame.
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Jake Brennan
Yeah, the. The. I think the I Shot the Sheriff shot stuff is like 1980, 1981. That's okay. And then it's bad. And then he has a Scorsese like Rise Again with Color of Money.
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Seth Lundy
Color Money.
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Jake Brennan
Which is also lame. I was like, this is like a Miller Light commercial.
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Seth Lundy
Well, I know, but that's. That's what makes that movie so great. It's like the Phil Collins song in that movie as well. Like, it makes that. It's of that time, you know?
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Jake Brennan
Yeah, Yeah. Color of Money is. It's.
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Seth Lundy
It's essential. It's amazing.
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Jake Brennan
Essential. Really. It's essential.
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Seth Lundy
It's essential. Scores. Easy.
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Jake Brennan
Yes. Yeah, it's. It you know, Tom Cruise could have done nothing after that and we would have been like, Tom Cruise is the man.
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Seth Lundy
He's amazing in that.
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Jake Brennan
He's incredible. All that's real, the whole thing. All right, we're getting off track with.
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Seth Lundy
With Vince and just the fact that he's playing. We don't have to go in the weeds about this, but he's playing. Paul Newman thinks he's playing Tom Cruise and Tom Cruise has been playing Paul Newman the whole movie. It's just.
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Jake Brennan
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Seth Lundy
Hey, Sal. Hank.
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Jake Brennan
What's going on?
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Seth Lundy
We haven't worked a case in years. I just bought my car at Carvana.
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Jake Brennan
And it was so easy.
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Seth Lundy
Too easy.
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Jake Brennan
Think something's up? You tell me.
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Seth Lundy
They got thousands of options, found a great car at a great price, and it got delivered the next day. It sounds like Carvana just. Just makes it easy to buy your car, Hank. Yeah, you're right. Case closed.
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Jake Brennan
All right, so I wanted to do this thing.
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Seth Lundy
Okay.
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Jake Brennan
There's no score in Goodfellas. And this podcast, just so everyone knows, we'll reset it a little bit. This podcast, Zeth and I are gonna do this once a month. It's for our Patreon listeners, for you guys. And we're gonna do a new movie every month. And we're gonna talk about the music in that movie. We're gonna talk about this here. We're clearly talking about the soundtrack, but we're also gonna talk about score. We're gonna talk about music supervision, and we're gonna do it, you know, more in a fanboy kind of way and less in kind of a nerdy research kind of way, because we do enough nerdy research on other stuff.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
And this is just stuff that's fun to talk about on a Tuesday night while I'm having a glass of bourbon with my doctor here. So. So we're gonna keep it to that. Now, in Goodfellas, there's no score, like, zero, Right. Nine. Zilch. This has become my new favorite thing in watching film and television.
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Seth Lundy
Okay.
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Jake Brennan
Because I'm like. I've had it with modern scoring and television. Like, I'm. I'm watching the new Claire Danes Netflix show, which I. I kind of like a lot.
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Seth Lundy
Okay.
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Jake Brennan
And the score is just like. It's like, yeah, we've been doing the same score since Ozark. Okay. Everybody does this, and it gets in the way of the emotion. It's so predictable. Puts a sort of governor on the emotion.
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Seth Lundy
Right, Right.
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Jake Brennan
And it's also. There's something going on with the way they're mixing stuff lately where it's so hard to hear dialogue. And I don't know if it's our TVs or what the hell it is. Anyhow, I'm re watching the Wire like we talked about. Absolutely no score in the Wire.
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Seth Lundy
Interesting. Okay.
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Jake Brennan
No scoring. Everything is incidental. It's all on the radio or whatever. Same thing with Rachel getting married. Another great that. And this. This is intentional, what he does. Like, absolutely no score. Fantastic. There's a. There's a best score and music supervision category at the Oscars. There is no best soundtrack award at the Oscars. Their a should be man.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
- [27:25]
Jake Brennan
Like, you think of all the great movies with great soundtracks.
- [27:28]
Seth Lundy
Yeah, I know.
- [27:28]
Jake Brennan
Goodfellas, Boogie Nights, Easy Rider. I can go on and I'll do the right thing. It's endless.
- [27:36]
Seth Lundy
Yeah, yeah.
- [27:37]
Jake Brennan
It's the Graduate. It's. It's like why we're gonna be doing this show forever.
- [27:41]
Seth Lundy
Exactly.
- [27:42]
Jake Brennan
Endless material. So one thing I want to look at, though, if you. I want to look at, like. Okay, if there was a best soundtrack category.
- [27:51]
Seth Lundy
Sure.
- [27:52]
Jake Brennan
Right. From films that were released when Goodfellows was released in 1990. Okay. Who would win it? So it's. It's hard to come up with a list of nominees. I think you gotta look first at the best picture nominees. Which Goodfellas was nominated for Best Picture? Didn't win. It only won. It was nominated for five awards. It won. Joe Pesci won for Best Supporting Actor. That's it.
- [28:13]
Seth Lundy
Okay.
- [28:14]
Jake Brennan
One Best picture Best picture was Dances with Wolves.
- [28:18]
Seth Lundy
Yeah.
- [28:19]
Jake Brennan
Okay. Okay. So Best Picture nominees. Dances With Wolves, Ghost Awakenings, Godfather 3, and Goodfellas. Now, of these, I think the only one that sniffs a Best soundtrack nomination. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Ghost, because of that iconic Righteous Brothers, Swayze. I was like, was that Swayze Kind of like I was thinking about. So Swayze kind of like. Like, like feeling up Whoopi Goldberg and Ghost and the Righteous Brothers were playing. I looked it up. It's like, no to me. More. But Whoopi Goldberg was in Ghost.
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Seth Lundy
She was in Ghost.
- [28:56]
Jake Brennan
Yeah.
- [28:56]
Seth Lundy
Yeah.
- [28:57]
Jake Brennan
All right.
- [28:57]
Seth Lundy
So again, another movie where I. And it's just probably part of our generation, but I. I was made aware of Unchained Melody by that movie, you know?
- [29:07]
Jake Brennan
Yeah, I probably was, too.
- [29:08]
Seth Lundy
Yeah.
- [29:08]
Jake Brennan
Big Chill turned me on to a lot of Big Chill.
- [29:11]
Seth Lundy
Big Chill, Stand By Me, Good Morning Vietnam, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah.
- [29:15]
Jake Brennan
What was the other one? The Cher one? Was it the Mermaids Little Mermaids. Yeah, I think that was. That's another one. Kind of big chili. So other films from 1990 that came out that weren't Best Picture.
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Seth Lundy
Okay.
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Jake Brennan
Okay. Here's a list of the top grossing films in order. Some of them were Best picture nominees. Ghost, Home Alone, Pretty Woman, Dances with Wolves, Total Recall, Back to the future 3. And, you know, there was a 3. Die Hard 2, presumed innocent, teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Kindergarten Cop. So those are the best.
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Seth Lundy
The highest tumor.
- [29:47]
Jake Brennan
It's not a tumor at all.
- [29:49]
Seth Lundy
Pretty Woman had a soundtrack. Soundtrack. But the rest of those probably had scores, right?
- [29:54]
Jake Brennan
It did. Yes, you're right. I'm sure Back to the Future had a soundtrack. So. So Pretty Woman and Ghost are in the mix here. Okay, so now let's look at. So, so far, we've got Goodfellas, Pretty Woman and Ghost for possible nominees. Okay, so let's look at some of the. The best independent films from 1990.
- [30:13]
Seth Lundy
Okay.
- [30:14]
Jake Brennan
Here's where it gets interesting.
- [30:15]
Seth Lundy
Okay. All right.
- [30:16]
Jake Brennan
Pump up the Volume.
- [30:18]
Seth Lundy
Oh, yeah.
- [30:19]
Jake Brennan
Oh, yeah.
- [30:20]
Seth Lundy
Oh, yeah. Pump up the Volume has got the Wave of Mutilation UK surf version. That slow version of the Pixie Song. Mm, yeah, sorry, I digress there.
- [30:30]
Jake Brennan
It also has Henry Rollins and bad brains doing MC5.
- [30:33]
Seth Lundy
That's right.
- [30:34]
Jake Brennan
Metropolitan. I just wanted to mention this movie because I love it, but it doesn't have a soundtrack. Okay. Slacker, Wild at Heart, King of New York House Party.
- [30:47]
Seth Lundy
Oh, yeah.
- [30:48]
Jake Brennan
Some great soundtracks here. Let's just dip into the Pump up the Volume soundtrack here.
- [30:52]
Seth Lundy
All right. All right.
- [30:53]
Jake Brennan
This is Gold. Everybody Knows by Concrete Blonde.
- [30:58]
Seth Lundy
The Leonard Cohen song.
- [30:59]
Jake Brennan
The Leonard Cohen song.
- [31:00]
Seth Lundy
Yeah, yeah.
- [31:00]
Jake Brennan
Wave of Mutilation, Pixies. You mentioned that UK surf version. Kick out the jams. I mentioned the MC5 tune, Bad Brains and Henry Rollins. Me and the Devil Blues, Robert Johnson song by Cowboy Junkies. Just. Yeah, so, so, so good. Dad, I'm In Jail by Was, not Was.
- [31:20]
Seth Lundy
Yeah, that's the song I was the other day.
- [31:23]
Jake Brennan
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
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Seth Lundy
Hi, dad, I'm in jail. Because you were. We were just talking about Was, not Was. And I asked you if you knew that song and you. And it's just. It's such a great song. So even a song, it's just a experimental, strange track.
- [31:37]
Jake Brennan
Just a telephone call. It's just Don Juan recording Ryan Adams calling Home. All right, so. All right. The Wild at Heart soundtrack.
- [31:45]
Seth Lundy
Yeah.
- [31:46]
Jake Brennan
All right. Lotta Angelo, Bottle Battlemente. So I'm not gonna go through that. It's literally like seven songs there's them. Them doing Baby Please Don't Go.
- [31:54]
Seth Lundy
Sure.
- [31:54]
Jake Brennan
Great. Chris Isaac's Wicked Game Gene Vincent Bebopolula. This is. This is what you'd expect.
- [32:01]
Seth Lundy
I think there's that, like, that thrash metal band is on there too. That the club they go to. It's. It's kind of all over the place. Yeah, that's way.
- [32:07]
Jake Brennan
Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember this movie hardly at all. I know I saw it, but with my girlfriend at the time, I was probably distracted and I really want to hear Nick Cage doing Love Me Gender.
- [32:21]
Seth Lundy
Dude, it's amazing. It's amazing. I've watched this movie, probably more than I should. It's one of my favorites. But yes, Nick Cage doing. Singing those songs, it's incredible. Especially inside that thrash metal club where he has the thrash band stop and has them provide the backing to Love Me Tender to. It's not Love Me Tender because he. Wait, he says he's gonna sing that to his wife. He sings another Elvis song. Love Me maybe.
- [32:49]
Jake Brennan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So Wild at heart, Pump up the volume and then House Party. LL Cool J to the break of dawn. Luther Vandross, Delfonics. Hey, love.
- [33:12]
Seth Lundy
Yeah.
- [33:12]
Jake Brennan
Bad boy having a party. Sam Cooke. So this is. This is a good one. This is a good one. Didn't really crack the Eric B Rakim run for cover. Yeah, this is a great, great soundtrack. So if we're nominating, we gotta come up with five. Let me know. These are the five I have. Good, fellas. Pretty Woman, Pump up the Volume, House Party, and ghost, all from 1990.
- [33:34]
Seth Lundy
Okay. All right, I can go. I can get with that.
- [33:36]
Jake Brennan
There's nothing I missed, right? No, no, you don't want to throw Godfather 3 in here. Godfather Waltz for the 1700th time.
- [33:44]
Seth Lundy
No, no, I don't. And I actually did a little recon just to see if we were missing anything, and, you know, we're really not. There was the Adventures of Ford Fairlane movie. The. Has a pretty kind of an interesting soundtrack, but I don't know that it really deserves to be in this list.
- [34:00]
Jake Brennan
So. No, I. I mean, it's almost like this is an unfair version of this. Like, I really think this could be a good device to do, like, podcast episode. To podcast.
- [34:10]
Seth Lundy
Yeah.
- [34:10]
Jake Brennan
Like, what are the. What are the best soundtrack nominations for the year that the movie comes out? But Goodfellas might be the greatest soundtrack ever, so nothing is going to come close to it in 1990.
- [34:22]
Seth Lundy
You know what's great about Goodfellow soundtrack is it just Seems to span the.
- [34:26]
Jake Brennan
The.
- [34:27]
Seth Lundy
The genesis of rock and roll. You know, it's. It starts with doo wop and girl group, and then it moves into, you know, British Invasion and that. Just gritty rock and roll. Rolling Stones, Cream, whatever.
- [34:41]
Jake Brennan
Drug rock.
- [34:42]
Seth Lundy
Drug rock.
- [34:43]
Jake Brennan
It's like classic rock drug rock. It's not Queens of the Stone Age drug rock. It's Eric Clapton at his filthiest. Like. Exactly.
- [34:50]
Seth Lundy
Everything's got that. Yeah, that filthy, gritty, kind of Dwayne.
- [34:53]
Jake Brennan
Almond and Needles hanging out of their arms and like that era, Clapton. You know what I mean? Like songs written by a fucking murderer. But Clapton claims the credit.
- [35:03]
Seth Lundy
And two songs that involve a Jim Gordon on drums, right. Layla and Jump into the Fire.
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Jake Brennan
Yeah. Pretty incredible.
- [35:13]
Seth Lundy
Do you know about the. The songs that Scorsese had on a list that he didn't include in this movie?
- [35:19]
Jake Brennan
No, but I can't wait to hear this. So.
- [35:23]
Seth Lundy
So there's a. Made Men, I think is the name of the book is a book that's about the making of Goodfellas. And in that book there's a. There's a list of song titles that Scorsese had. And a bunch of them were the ones that we hear in the movie. You know what's funny is that Jump into the Fire by Harry Nilsson is not on this list. But the song. Some of the songs that are on this list that were not used included with A Little Help from My Friends by Joe Cocker.
- [35:49]
Jake Brennan
Okay. I feel like he used. Did he use that in Casino? No, I don't think so.
- [35:55]
Seth Lundy
I don't think so.
- [35:56]
Jake Brennan
I'm thinking. Keep going. I don't want to cut you off.
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Seth Lundy
Gasoline Alley by Rod Stewart. I was thinking if there was a song that could have been included here that was not like a Faces Rod Stewart song. Again with that sort of like gritty, like druggie rock.
- [36:08]
Jake Brennan
That's True blue. True.
- [36:10]
Seth Lundy
Never been a millionaire and I tell.
- [36:14]
Jake Brennan
You, mama, I don't care Never gonna own a race. It's so good. I'm using that one in my movie.
- [36:23]
Seth Lundy
What year is that from True Blue? It seems a little too late, don't you think?
- [36:27]
Jake Brennan
No, it's still. It's still 70s, I think.
- [36:30]
Seth Lundy
Ronnie woods playing it. Oh, no, you're right. You're right. Okay. All right. Anyways. Okay. Gasoline Alley. Rod Stewart. Only the good die young. Billy Joel.
- [36:37]
Jake Brennan
Oh, great one. Things that you might have done Only the good die on. If that was in Goodfell does right. We. We would now be saying. That makes perfect sense. These were like Long island mobster Queens guys, you know like. And it would have had this whole blow up shine culturally to it that it doesn't really have.
- [36:57]
Seth Lundy
Yeah.
- [36:57]
Jake Brennan
You know.
- [36:58]
Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Seth Lundy
Now not to get like too like too too much Professor Lundy about this at all but do you notice that stocked naughty to you when we get into when we get into like the true like when when Paulie's like don't be involved in in drugs. Don't be involved in heroin. And Henry's like yeah yeah, no problem. And then we cut to him doing coke and immediately that's like give me shelter. The Rolling Stones. We jump from doo wop and girl group stuff to rock and roll. When the when the corruption comes in, when the vice comes in the darkness. And then very tellingly, right after Henry is arrested after that incredible playlist of songs with the Nielsen, Rolling Stones, Muddy Waters. He's arrested. And then the rest of the movie, which is like 20 to 25 minutes, has no music at all.
- [39:22]
Jake Brennan
I know.
- [39:22]
Seth Lundy
Nothing. No, it's the aftermath. Anything?
- [39:24]
Jake Brennan
It's the aftermath.
- [39:25]
Seth Lundy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [39:27]
Jake Brennan
It's just like. It's dead. Everything's dead. It's Heinz ketchup on egg noodles. Dead.
- [39:31]
Seth Lundy
I was gonna say. You notice that De Niro's. That Jimmy puts ketchup on his pasta.
- [39:40]
Jake Brennan
And he shakes it. He shakes it. My buddy Dave Welsh from Clinton used to do that. You should just shake it. Oh, my God. I was like, dude, it's gonna take you 20 minutes to get that on your French fries. I know what you're doing. Come on, now. Oh, man. It's hard to find glass bottles of Heinz, I gotta tell you.
- [39:56]
Seth Lundy
Yeah, I know.
- [39:57]
Jake Brennan
I didn't get them for, like, nine bucks at Whole Foods, but. But, you know, who wants to do that? So there's some interesting music. Life imitating art in this film.
- [40:09]
Seth Lundy
Okay.
- [40:10]
Jake Brennan
It's when they're at the Copa, it's Henny Youngman.
- [40:13]
Seth Lundy
Take my wife, please.
- [40:16]
Jake Brennan
It's the real Henny Youngman playing himself, like 20 years older than he should be in that scene. And they do that incredible device where they cut from. I think it's the Copa, where Henny Youngman is some club. I think so. And they cut from the club and Henny on stage doing his thing. Take my wife. That whole bit. You know what I mean?
- [40:35]
Seth Lundy
Right.
- [40:36]
Jake Brennan
And he keeps going. They cut to the airport where they're. They're stealing. They're. You know, they're robbing the airport.
- [40:42]
Seth Lundy
He's still doing his bit before I said, try to kitchen. Dr. Welzer is here.
- [40:48]
Jake Brennan
Wonderful doctor. Gave you guys six months to live.
- [40:51]
Seth Lundy
Couldn't pay his bill. Gave him another six months while they. Showing them walking. You still hear it?
- [40:56]
Jake Brennan
It's so good.
- [40:57]
Seth Lundy
I know.
- [40:58]
Jake Brennan
It's so good. It's one of those things. I'm like, did Scorsese, like, fall into that? Did he invent that? Or who did he steal it from? I want to know where that came from. Because it's so simple. It's. But it's so brilliant. It's just great. It's just great.
- [41:12]
Seth Lundy
His cinematic language is just unmatched. It's really this, like. The syntax, the punctuation that everything. He's just. It's like. It's like someone's talking to you with all the senses, you know?
- [41:23]
Jake Brennan
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was. I was reading about Talk about punctuation. The opening scene, you know, when they're after. They open the trunk of the car and they. They stab bats and then they. They slam the trunk. And Rags to riches starts.
- [41:41]
Seth Lundy
Yep.
- [41:42]
Jake Brennan
They had a fight in the edit over and over again to get that. So it. The trunk slams on the downbeat. You know what I mean? It's like normally you would start it like with the up, like on the. On the one or whatever, but it's like that they. And he wanted the down beat because the slamming of the trunk down, just brilliant. Just. It's so smart.
- [42:09]
Seth Lundy
I think it's just all in his head. I think it's just evidenced by all those storyboards that he drew as a kid. I think he's just. He just has. He has this innate God given knack for that sort of thing.
- [42:21]
Jake Brennan
Yeah, yeah, he absolutely does. And again, the confidence of this is one of those things too. That has to be some sort of. Like, we just. We can pull this one of these out of every movie. I feel like out of every movie soundtrack. We talked about this movie kind of makes you, like, Clapton it. Absolutely. Now, this took a while. Like, I didn't see Don't Look Back, the Dylan movie until probably 10 years after I saw Goodfellas.
- [42:47]
Seth Lundy
Yeah, same. Yeah.
- [42:48]
Jake Brennan
So it took me a full decade to develop my hatred of Donovan. Okay. I.
- [42:54]
Seth Lundy
Is your hatred of Donovan like, vicariously through Bob Dylan? Because Bob Dylan hates Donovan.
- [42:59]
Jake Brennan
Really? Well, you can kind of tell in that movie. And he's just such a twit. And he's. He's. I would say this guy's so contrived and full of, you know, he's like Scott Weiland without the darkness. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah, I hear you.
- [43:14]
Seth Lundy
I hear you.
- [43:15]
Jake Brennan
But then. And even like Goodfellas, it took. It took like 20 years of Goodfellas for me to finally be like, I love Donovan. Because of Atlantis.
- [43:30]
Seth Lundy
Atlantis. Yeah, it's.
- [43:32]
Jake Brennan
It's so good. The counterpoint between that song and it's hippie dippy and the violence that's going on.
- [43:37]
Seth Lundy
Totally. Ah.
- [43:39]
Jake Brennan
You know who stole that completely is Gus Van Zant in Goodwill hunting.
- [43:45]
Seth Lundy
Come on, it's me.
- [43:46]
Jake Brennan
It's me. Will. Remember we went to kindergarten together.
- [43:52]
Seth Lundy
When.
- [43:52]
Jake Brennan
They'Re tooling on the kid in South Boston in the beginning of the. The film. And Jerry Rafferty's Baker street is playing.
- [43:58]
Seth Lundy
Yep, yep, Absolutely.
- [44:00]
Jake Brennan
It's the same thing. It's absolutely slow motion, all of it. I don't know. They. I think they do a Like a bit of slow motion in the. In the scene where they're beating on Billy Bats. Maybe not.
- [44:12]
Seth Lundy
There might be. I. I always get that scene. That scene is very similar to that scene in Casino where she stabs the guy with the neck with a pen. It's very similar.
- [44:22]
Jake Brennan
It is very seam.
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Seth Lundy
The Goodfellow scene, though, with Atlantis is one of those great, like you put it. Counterpoint. It's like that. That. That song is not at all what you'd expect for that moment of violence, you know? And it. And it just. The violence does seem way more real with that song playing.
- [44:44]
Jake Brennan
Yeah. And this is why Counterpoint with filmmaking and soundtracking, you just hit the nail completely on the head. And I want to reinforce it. It's why it's so important. Because if you were in a bar and a fight broke out, the fucking jukebox doesn't care what song's playing.
- [45:01]
Seth Lundy
Exactly.
- [45:01]
Jake Brennan
Yeah. And that's how life works. It's absurd and there's strange shit happening all the time and you can't control it. And he's just like, it's. But I have to say, that's not how I think that the majority of creative people think. They think, like, we have to match the emotion. Sure. Of what we're seeing. And. And Scorsese's bra. Bravery is creative. Bravery is just like. No, this is how I. I saw a guy getting his head stomped on the ground in my neighborhood. And, you know, Frankie Valli, a Frankie Valley ballad was playing in the background, you know?
- [45:38]
Seth Lundy
Yeah.
- [45:38]
Jake Brennan
He's.
- [45:39]
Seth Lundy
He seemed to just kind of say, like it with this movie. Like, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna do whatever creative impulse I want to do with this movie. And, you know, I mean, like, detractors be damned or whatever.
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- [45:50]
Jake Brennan
Yeah, it's. It's his. I think it's his most personal movie. I think.
- [45:57]
Seth Lundy
I wouldn't be surprised, knowing his upbringing.
- [45:59]
Jake Brennan
You know, I mean, maybe. Maybe Mean Streets, but it's so much earlier and he wasn't at the peak of his powers. He didn't have the budget. I'm trying to think of another one that is more personal, that's kind of later. Maybe the Irishman. That's very personal. I feel like, because of how the age he was at when he made it and all those guys were at. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Scoring in that is fantastic as well. Soundtracking in that and the scoring he uses. Score. He has Robbie Robertson scoring.
- [46:27]
Seth Lundy
Yeah. Yeah.
- [46:28]
Jake Brennan
Which is a reason we have to cover Irishman and That was something, too. Which. In the beginning. You don't like Irishman as much as I do, do you?
- [46:35]
Seth Lundy
No, no, I. No, I. I like. I like the Irishman. I haven't. I need to see it more. I haven't seen it enough. I need to see it more. So it's sort of like, lives in me some more, you know? I mean, like.
- [46:44]
Jake Brennan
Yeah, in the beginning, the. The scoring was a sore thumb, and now I can't live without it. Now I just. I love it. It's fantastic.
- [46:53]
Seth Lundy
The best music, the best. The best movies are the ones that, you know, it's like. It's like Glenn says in Raising Arizona. It's a way Homer. You only get it on the way home.
- [47:05]
Jake Brennan
I love that. Okay, more. More. Life imitating art. Bobby Vinton at the Copa. Okay, that's actually Bobby Vinton. It's Robert Vinton. That's Bobby Vinton's son. No, exactly like his dad and is actually. I. I think he's the same age his old man would have been at in that era when they were doing it.
- [47:25]
Seth Lundy
No way. What. What else did. What. What did he.
- [47:27]
Jake Brennan
What else? I don't think he did anything. I think he was just sitting around his whole entire life being like, okay, yeah, I'm on the bench. Here I come. I'm ready, Mr. Scorsese. Here we go.
- [47:36]
Seth Lundy
Oh, my God. Roses Are Red. Is that the song he does in that scene? Roses? And he holds out his hand to that. The bottle goes to the table and he's.
- [47:43]
Jake Brennan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one.
- [47:45]
Seth Lundy
The way that this film is scored with its soundtrack, that rock and roll is equals corruption. Rock and roll equals reckoning. Not. Not that Scorsese is coming down on rock and roll, but it's just the way the. The seduction of the lifestyle, which is the first half of the film, how you're seduced by this lifestyle that's all doo wop, it's girl groups. It's like, you know, big strings arrangements.
- [48:11]
Jake Brennan
It's. Roses Are Red. It's.
- [48:13]
Seth Lundy
Then he Kissed Me. Leader of the pack. You know, like, he's. Sure the boy. I love all these. The Ronettes, the Crystals, the whatever. And then as soon as we get into the nitty gritty of Henry Hill doing cocaine with one of his multiple mistresses, it's like, you know, about rape and murder.
- [48:32]
Jake Brennan
You know, Mick Jagger literally, like, puking into the microphone on a monkey man, like. Yeah, exactly.
- [48:48]
Seth Lundy
And it's. That's obviously such a deliberate choice, and it works so well, I think, on A almost like a subconscious level as you're watching this movie and moves you through where the, where the, the, the character arc of Henry Hill is going.
- [49:02]
Jake Brennan
Yeah, I think that's accurate. I think that's accurate. I think this is. I don't own this soundtrack. I don't think it's important anymore.
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Seth Lundy
It exists. I mean, it came out back in the day.
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Jake Brennan
It came out. It's not, it's not. You can't stream it. You can find playlists.
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Seth Lundy
Right. But you know what, you know what was not on? It's just wild. I looked up the soundtrack. You know what song was not on the soundtrack? The physical CD that came out was Jumping in the Fire.
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Jake Brennan
That's interesting.
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Seth Lundy
Which might be. Because it's so long, maybe they didn't, you know.
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Jake Brennan
Yeah, yeah. You only had 70 minutes on a CD or whatever it was.
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Seth Lundy
Right, right.
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Jake Brennan
Did you know, I think you're the one who told me this. That my way. They wanted the Sinatra version of it for the closing credits.
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Seth Lundy
Oh, I didn't tell you that. I didn't know that.
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Jake Brennan
Yeah. And they couldn't get it, so they went with the Sid Vicious version. And how great is that?
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Seth Lundy
I love that. I love that. Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
So much better.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Ad Voice
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
So much better.
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Seth Lundy
Totally.
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Jake Brennan
I mean, I don't even think he would have gone with the Sinatra thing if he did clear it, because it just, I mean, so on the money, I mean, would it was the plan to have the Sinatra thing playing while Tommy shooting?
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Seth Lundy
Yeah. No, because that would have, that would have taken us back in time. We need the, we need to be moving forward. The music's moving forward as the characters are moving forward. You need to have the 1977, 78, 70, whatever it is, version of that song, the punk version.
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Jake Brennan
It's the best credits, too. Yeah, it's just the shooting too. It's just. It's so good.
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Seth Lundy
It's great.
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Jake Brennan
It's so good. All right. All right. Let's talk about some movies we're gonna do next. Next month. We're doing. We're gonna do this every month, guys, and we're gonna do it towards the end of the month because we need time to think about this and, and, you know, put them together. I, I, I just think there's no shortage of incredible topics that we can cover here. Boogie Night, huge one. We can do 17 different Scorsese ones. There's a million Tarantino ones. We came out of the gate big here with Goodfellas. I wanna, I wanna, I don't wanna go. So Big. I don't wanna burn out on all the huge ones.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
Early on, we gotta come up with a good mix. I watched the other night. This is gonna sound like the most emo ever. And I'm not trying to sound like fucking ghee from Rites of Spring, but I watched Rachel Getting Married the other night.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah. I watched it the other day, too.
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Jake Brennan
And the soundtrack is. It's. It's actually incidental.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Ad Voice
It.
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Jake Brennan
There are no songs mixed into it, but it's about a family in the music business and you. There's a bunch of musicians at this wedding, and you hear everything. It's fantastic. And. And the stories behind how they got that music, how they made it, how they shot it, because it's a small little indie film is really interesting. So I'd like to cover that at some point. Well, I mean, there's so many. I mean, I would even. I don't even know how we would do it, but I'd love to do. There's no music and no country for Old Men. And somehow I think there's a version of us covering that because.
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Seth Lundy
Right.
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Jake Brennan
All the spots where the music should be where it would have fucked it up. What. I don't know. What are some of the choices you've been thinking about?
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Seth Lundy
I mentioned this to you earlier. I mentioned Trainspotting earlier. I rewatched Trainspotting recently, and I really think that that is sort of like the consummate example of using songs in your movie to sort of communicate whatever. Your. Whatever's going on theme, thematically and narratively in the film. So that springs to mind right away. Yeah. There's so many places we can go with this.
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Jake Brennan
I mean. Yeah. Okay. We could just turn this into the selections pod. We're not going to do that. Let's get some sort of list together with the listeners on Patreon. We'll get some suggestions from folks.
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Seth Lundy
Great idea.
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Jake Brennan
Yeah, man. This was fun. This is good.
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Seth Lundy
Absolutely.
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Jake Brennan
Let's. I'm gonna go get my shine box. Right? Is that what we're doing? Is that the way.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
Yeah.
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Seth Lundy
Go get your shine box. I'm gonna go pistol whip my neighbor across the street and go to bed.
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Jake Brennan
You want some? You want.
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Jake Brennan
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