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“What if leadership isn’t about driving results, but about caring for people?

On this episode of The Disruption Lab, Patrick Leddin sits down with Bob Chapman, Chairman and former CEO of Barry-Wehmiller, to explore a radically different approach to leading people and building organizations.

Bob has spent decades transforming a $3.6 billion global company by embracing what he calls “Truly Human Leadership”—a philosophy grounded in a simple but profound belief: every person in your organization is “somebody’s precious child,” entrusted to your care.

In this conversation, Bob shares the pivotal moment that forced him to rethink everything he believed about leadership, moving from a traditional, numbers-driven mindset to one centered on stewardship, dignity, and human impact. He reflects on what he had to unlearn, the resistance he faced, and how this shift didn’t just change culture—it improved performance.

Patrick and Bob also discuss the newly expanded 10th-anniversary edition of Everybody Matters, now re-released with new stories, insights, and data from another decade of applying these ideas in the real world.”