Doctrine Matters with Kevin DeYoung
Episode: What Is the Doctrine of Justification?
Date: September 9, 2025
Host: Kevin DeYoung (produced by Crossway)
Overview
In this episode, Kevin DeYoung unpacks the doctrine of justification—often described as the hinge upon which the church stands or falls. Drawing from biblical texts, the Reformation's legacy, and analogies, DeYoung clarifies what justification means, why it matters, and how it differentiates Protestant theology from Roman Catholic perspectives. He emphasizes the forensic, declarative nature of justification through faith in Christ alone and the transformative implications for Christian living.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Introduction to Justification
- The Significance: DeYoung introduces justification as the “granddaddy of them all” among doctrines, pivotal in soteriology (the doctrine of salvation) and the ordo salutis (order of salvation) [00:10].
- The Central Question: How are we reconciled to God? It’s not just that we apologize and God forgives out of sentimentality [00:34].
2. The Problem of Justice and Mercy
- God's Nature: God is both loving and just—He cannot simply overlook sin (“forget about it”) without compromising His own character [01:00].
- Quote: “God does not forgive our sins simply by saying forget about it. Like, he wakes up one day and he's having a good God day. And we said, we're sorry. And he says, bada boom, bada bing... your sins are gone. No, he is a God of justice.” (DeYoung, [01:12])
- Personal Analogy: DeYoung likens God's honor to defending a spouse’s reputation, showing the seriousness of sin and the necessity for justice [02:10].
- Biblical Reference: Proverbs 17:15 highlights the tension: “He who justifies the wicked is an abomination to the Lord” [02:49].
3. The Solution: The Great Exchange
- Scriptural Basis: 2 Corinthians 5:21—Christ, who was innocent, became sin for our sake so we might become righteous in Him [03:05].
- Negative and Positive Aspects:
- Negatively: Declaration of sins forgiven and guilt removed—a judicial acquittal, not a process [03:35].
- Quote: “It is a judicial verdict, a declaration of innocence. Think of Romans 5:1. There is... no condemnation.” (DeYoung, [03:45])
- Positively: Adoption as children and a legal right to eternal life—present possession, not just future hope [04:16].
- Negatively: Declaration of sins forgiven and guilt removed—a judicial acquittal, not a process [03:35].
- Forensic Nature: Justification uses legal/judicial language; it denotes a verdict, not inner transformation (yet) [04:41].
- Quote: “The Greek word dikaio speaks of something declarative. Justification refers to a judicial pronouncement.” (DeYoung, [04:58])
4. Imputation vs. Infusion: The Heart of the Debate
- Imputation Defined: Christ’s righteousness is credited to the believer’s account, not infused inside [05:04].
- Westminster Shorter Catechism 33: Justification is an act of God’s free grace—sins pardoned, acceptance in God’s sight only for Christ’s righteousness imputed and received by faith alone [05:25].
- Catholic vs. Protestant Perspective: The argument was never if grace is needed, but how righteousness is made ours: Is it “reckoned to us” (imputation) or “worked in us” (infusion)? [06:00]
Analogies to Clarify Imputation:
- High Jump Analogy:
- Works Righteousness: Training to clear an impossible bar (self-effort)
- Infused Righteousness: Grace is like super-shoes, helps but you still have to clear the bar
- Caricatured Justification (“Legal Fiction”): Running under the bar and getting the medal anyway
- Actual Imputation: Jesus clears the bar, gets the gold, and credits it to you because you’re united to Him [06:48].
- Quote: “So here the analogy would be that Jesus, the world's best high jumper, goes and sails over the bar at 10ft and gets the world record in the gold medal. And then by union with him, his accomplishment is credited to our account...” (DeYoung, [07:39])
- Fantasy Football Analogy: What your “player” does is credited to your score; “If you have Jesus on your fantasy team, then you're gonna win.” (DeYoung, [08:10])
5. Simul Justus et Peccator
- Sinners and Justified:
- The believer is “at the same time righteous and a sinner”—righteous by declaration, sinner in reality [09:14].
- Quote: “Sinners, but at the same time justified. Now, the goal, of course, is not to revel in that sin... But we are at that moment of justification, not righteous in ourselves. We are sinners, and yet at the same time, we have been declared righteous.” (DeYoung, [09:30])
- The believer is “at the same time righteous and a sinner”—righteous by declaration, sinner in reality [09:14].
6. The Role of Faith in Justification
- Faith Alone:
- Righteousness is credited to us by faith as the sole instrument; not by works or by faith as a “work” [09:45].
- Roman Catholic View:
- Justification is a process starting at baptism, continuing by cooperation with grace— hope for a favorable verdict at death [10:10].
- Quote: “In Roman Catholic theology, justification is a process begun at baptism, and then you cooperate with grace in hopes of receiving a favorable verdict from God at the end of our lives.” (DeYoung, [10:12])
- Justification is a process starting at baptism, continuing by cooperation with grace— hope for a favorable verdict at death [10:10].
- The Protestant Distinctive:
- Drawing on Paul and James, DeYoung distinguishes the mechanism of justification (Paul: by faith alone) from the evidence in a justified life (James: faith that works) [10:41].
- Faith Isn't a Substitute Work:
- Comparing it to a straw that “sips up the sweet tea”—it is only instrumental, not meritorious [11:18].
7. Justification and Works: Faith Is Never Alone
- Turretin Quoted:
- “It is one thing for works to be connected with faith in the person of the justified. Another, however, in the matter of justification.” (DeYoung paraphrasing, [12:02])
- Summary Statement:
- “Sinners are not justified by works, but works will always be evident in the lives of justified sinners.” [12:15]
Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
- “God does not forgive our sins simply by saying forget about it. Like, he wakes up one day and he's having a good God day... No, he is a God of justice.” — Kevin DeYoung [01:12]
- “If God were to simply look past our sin just because he really likes us, he would be treating his own name with contempt.” — Kevin DeYoung [01:45]
- “The declaration [of justification] is based on the substitutionary work of Christ. It’s grounded in an alien righteousness.” — Kevin DeYoung [03:48]
- “Justification refers to a judicial pronouncement. It is the judge declaring that one is righteous, one is in a right standing.” — Kevin DeYoung [04:58]
- “Jesus... goes and sails over the bar at 10ft and gets the world record in the gold medal. And then by union with him, his accomplishment is credited to our account... his gold medal is our gold medal.” — Kevin DeYoung [07:39]
- “If you have Jesus on your fantasy team, then you're gonna win.” — Kevin DeYoung [08:10]
- “Sinners, but at the same time justified... we are at that moment of justification, not righteous in ourselves. We are sinners, and yet at the same time, we have been declared righteous.” — Kevin DeYoung [09:30]
- “Faith is that instrumental cause. We should be clear that although we're justified by faith alone, that faith is never alone.” — Kevin DeYoung [11:18]
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 00:10 — Introduction to justification and its critical importance
- 00:34 — The simple view of reconciliation challenged by God's justice
- 02:10 — Analogy of defending a loved one's honor
- 03:05 — Introduction of the “great exchange” (2 Corinthians 5:21)
- 04:41 — Legal/forensic dimension of justification explained
- 06:00 — Imputation versus infusion: Protestant and Catholic perspectives
- 07:39 — High jump analogy for understanding imputation
- 08:10 — Fantasy football analogy for union with Christ
- 09:14 — “Simul justus et peccator”—righteous and sinner declared
- 10:12 — Description of Catholic doctrine on justification
- 10:41 — Faith alone: distinguishing Paul and James on justification
- 11:18 — Faith as the instrument, never a meritorious work
- 12:02 — Turretin on the relation of works to justified persons
Tone and Style
Kevin DeYoung's tone is pastoral, engaging, and frequently illustrated with relatable analogies (from marriage to sports), making deep doctrinal points accessible. He reveres Scripture, draws on historical confessions, and treats controversial points with clarity and charity.
Conclusion
This episode concisely explains and defends the classic Reformed Protestant understanding of justification:
- It is a declarative act of God—based purely on Christ’s finished work, not our own—
- Righteousness is “credited” to us (“imputation”) by faith alone,
- And though works play no part in the mechanism of justification, they will inevitably flow from a life transformed by genuine faith.
A foundational episode for understanding the heart of the Christian Gospel as understood in the Reformation tradition.
