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Kevin DeYoung
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For the past few weeks, we've been looking at Covenant theology, and there are lots of other things we could talk about. We've just been moving through very quickly to look at the various expressions or administrations of the one covenant of grace. And in this last week, we could talk about dispensation, sensationalism. That would be interesting. Talk about Israel. That's a big question. We just can't do everything. So I want to talk about the law.
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And this is one of the key points in traditional Reformed theology.
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Remember that when God saved Israel, he saved them and then he gave them the law. Yes, the law is there to convict us of unrighteousness. And we see the law function that way in Paul's letters, for example.
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But Paul also says that the law.
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Is good and holy and there's a.
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Right way to use the law. And in traditional Reformed theology, the so.
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Called third use of the law emphasized by Calvin is as the perfect rule of righteousness. And so in a Reformed worship service, you might have the Ten Commandments read.
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And they can be read leading into.
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A prayer of confession. They're convicting us of sin, but they can also be our response after the.
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Word or after forgiveness.
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Because in Israel's history, of course, they weren't given the Ten Commandments before they were delivered from Israel or from Egypt. Wasn't as if God told the Israelites, I got some commandments, see how you can do. And if you nail them or get them 50% right, then I will save you.
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No, he saved them and then gave them the law. It was then how they were to.
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Live as free people, what they did as God's people, to obey him and to worship Him.
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It was the perfect rule of righteousness. Now, how do we understand in particular, not just the commands of God?
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Because we know Jesus said the Great Commission, teach them to obey everything I've commanded you. He told his disciples, if you love.
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Me, you will obey my Commandments.
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So we know that we must be obedient Christians. We can't be perfectly. But we can't be truly, genuinely obedient Christians.
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We must obey the commands of Jesus.
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But what about the Old Testament law in particular?
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Remember, Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law or the prophets.
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You say, now wait a minute. But we already see in Mark's Gospel, for example, that it's made very clear that these food laws, the cleanliness, purity laws, those are going to pass away. So how Jesus himself says, he's going.
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To tear down the temple.
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So the temple religion is going away. He's going to be the last high priest. He's going to be the last sacrifice talking Jesus say, I didn't come to abolish it.
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Well, he uses the word play, Ro. I've come to fulfill it.
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And that doesn't simply refer to accomplishing specific prophecies. Does mean that, but it means more. It means Jesus brings the Scripture to completion. He brings the law to its climax.
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To its intended goal. So nothing of the law has passed away, but all of the law. Here's the key. All of the law must be understood now in the person and work of Jesus Christ. He's the new Moses.
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He's the new Messianic lawgiver. So in a way, yes, the whole.
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Law still has to do with us.
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It points us to Christ, but it also gives transcendent moral principles.
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And by the general equity of all.
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Those commands, we still know what God.
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Wants for his people. This is why Paul can cite Deuteronomy 25:4. You shall not muzzle an ox when it is treading out the grain.
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Paul didn't think of that as, oh, that's the Mosaic Law. That's gone. Doesn't have anything to do with us.
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No, he uses it as a justification for paying Gospel preachers.
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He can allude to Deuteronomy 19:15 in.
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Insisting we should not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. So the law of Moses is not to be thrown out, but it's been transformed, repurposed by the coming of Christ. Traditional Reformed theology, and we find this.
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Expressed in the Westminster Confession of Faith.
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Teaches that the law of Moses can.
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Be divided into three the moral law given in the Ten Commandments, the ceremonial laws which were abrogated with the coming.
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Of Christ, and the judicial laws that.
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Expired with the nation of Israel. This is laid out in Westminster Confession, Chapter 19.
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That's very common.
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And if people ask, well, how come we're not obeying all of these commands. We're not doing the food laws, we're not doing the sacrifices, we're not doing all the laws. We don't have slaves anymore, thankfully.
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What does this law have to do with us? Well, traditional answer in Reformed theology is.
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To talk about the tripartite division of the law, moral, ceremonial and judicial.
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And that's helpful. Some people, however, and it's an understandable.
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Point, would say now, really, Yes, I.
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Can see how that's a helpful distinction.
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And that sort of gets us to.
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Having the Ten Commandments still be important.
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For us because that's the expression of the moral law. But really, does this anywhere in the law itself, does the Old Testament ever present itself in this neat and tidy three part division?
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And many people have objected to it.
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Many good scholars, and particularly those who.
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Maybe have a sympathy for some aspects of covenant theology.
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They may be Reformed soteriologically, but they're not in the classic Reformed tradition when it comes to covenant theology and the law. They may say things like, well, this is too neat and tidy and we don't find this explicitly laid out. And it's true, it's not explicit.
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And if we're looking for neat and tidy, it is not there. And yet the division does have biblical warrant. It's at least as old as Aquinas.
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Who argued from the different terms used in Deuteronomy 4, 13, 14 and Deuteronomy.
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6:1 that there were three kinds of laws under Moses. Centuries earlier, early Church Clement of Alexandria divided the law into four parts.
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He called it historic, legislative, sacrificial and theological church.
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Father Tertullian made a distinction between moral and ceremonial laws.
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Augustine distinguished between the moral precepts that.
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Are binding and the symbols that are not.
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Just those quick examples show us that for a long time, since the beginning of the Church practically, theologians have instinctively.
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Understood that the law of Moses has.
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Different shape and contour to it.
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And besides this historical precedent, there are.
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Good biblical reasons for accepting the traditional.
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Threefold division of the law. For starters, the Ten Commandments are unique. Unlike most of the other statutes, these.
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Commandments were already known in the world prior to Sinai.
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We could trace this out if we had time.
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The people in Genesis and Exodus, we.
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See, they already know murder is wrong. They know adultery is wrong, they know lying is wrong. And what's more, at Sinai, God spoke the words of the Decalogue directly.
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They heard the voice was not mediated through Moses, and the Ten Commandments were.
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Given in absolute form and addressed to the individual rather than to the nation. The words were written down by the finger of God preserved in stone. All of these elements of the familiar.
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Story of Mount Sinai in Exodus 19 and 20 teach us that the Ten Commandments have a unique place.
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They already had that place, were viewed.
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In a unique way in the life of Israel itself.
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Second reason.
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The Ten Commandments are distinguished from other.
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Commands within the law of Moses, not.
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Just their unique way of being given directly and by the finger of God, but.
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But even as the law unfolds.
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So, for example, if the decalogue, you.
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Might think that's the Ten Commandments, the ten words.
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If the decalogue is the constitution, then.
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The other commandments function as case law.
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You see this following Exodus 2010 commandments to Exodus 21, the language changes. It's not thou shalt, but it's if.
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This and when this. So we have the. The constitution, as it were, and then the case law. Here are.
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Here's a set of paradigmatic examples.
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When this happens, here's what you do.
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Even the very language in the rest.
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Of the law tells us that these functioned in a different way than the Ten Commandments.
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Even under Moses, God's people did not.
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Take all 613 commandments.
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That's a traditional number that assigned to.
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The law of Moses. 613. They didn't take them as being essentially equal. There were lighter matters, weightier matters.
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There were different penalties for different infractions.
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The prophets often announced that the Lord desired mercy, not sacrifice.
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And that teaches that sacrifice is of a lesser weight than the heart of mercy.
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In fact, God hates the feasts and.
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Assemblies in Amos because God's people are doing them in a perfunctory way because they're disobeying the Ten Commandments.
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You never have it the other way.
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Around that God's people are keeping the Ten Commandments, but they're not getting their sacrifices right. And then God says, well, I hate your obedience to the Ten Commandments. Now there's always undergirding. Yeah, but what sort of people are.
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You're getting these rituals right?
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You're tithing your mint and your dill and your cumin, but what are you doing to love the Lord your God.
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With all your heart?
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Third, the language used by Moses suggests.
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Something like the ceremonial and judicial laws. You say really?
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Well, think about it. The word pattern is so often used.
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In Exodus and Leviticus, and then again.
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It'S picked up in Hebrews.
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The pattern do everything after the pattern that you see. Well, if these laws relative to the.
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Worship of Israel the ritual, the ceremonial are given according to a pattern, then.
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There is a built in obsolescence to the commands.
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The earthly form, the pattern will eventually.
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Give way to the heavenly reality. And that's what we have when Christ arrives. The earthly form, the pattern, has passed away.
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Likewise, we see in Deuteronomy the language of the commands given in the land, or here's what you do when you.
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Are in the land, suggesting that some of the commands were specific to the nation of Israel in Canaan. In short, the Mosaic law was never seen as an indivisible whole, not even in Moses day. True, Moses didn't come down from the mountain and say, I have a threefold division.
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You are to think of these commandments.
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In three different categories.
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And we can very neatly set them into three different buckets. Of course he didn't do that. But I do not believe people would be surprised to go back to the time of Moses. And I think it would have been.
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Understood instinctively that the Ten Commandments were.
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Unique and they were binding in a.
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Different way from the other commandments related.
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To worship and the regulation of life in Israel.
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These things now apply to us in a different way. There are still principles there.
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They point to Christ, but the Ten Commandments, the moral law, binds in a unique way. This is one of the key differences between traditional Reformed theology and how many of my Baptist brothers might understand things and have learned all sorts of things from good Baptist theologians or those who have a different understanding of the covenants.
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In recent years there has been something of a resurgence of Baptist covenant theology.
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And in some new and different shades. So it's probably worth, just as we round out this Covenant Theology section, just.
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Say a few words.
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I'm of course a Presbyterian pastor and I'm giving this from the perspective of traditional Reformed theology. But there's a Baptist version of Covenant.
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Theology which goes back a very, very long ways.
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In October 1658, a group of Independents.
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And Congregationalists met at the Savoy Hospital.
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In London to draw up a revision.
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Of the Westminster Confession.
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So that's from the 1640s. This is the end of the 1650s. And they wanted the confession to reflect their commitment to Congregational Church government.
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And they came up with a now little known Savoy Declaration. And this would be revised two decades.
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Later and become a classic Baptist summary.
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Of faith, known as the 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith, also called the London.
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Baptist Confession, sometimes confusingly called the Second.
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London Baptist Confession because there was another.
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Small Baptist confession written in 1644. But 1689, and you see that Sometimes on people's monikers or their handles. Online. 1689.
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Written in 1677 as a revision of the Westminster Confession, the London Baptist Confession is a Reformed document in many ways.
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It is certainly Calvinist in soteriology, and it includes some additions that Reformed Christians would welcome.
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There's an augmented section on the Trinity.
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For example, which is very good, as one would expect. The most significant difference between the 1689 London Baptist Confession and the Westminster Confession.
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1646, and that's the origin of it.
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The most significant differences have to do.
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With the doctrine of the Church and.
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The sacraments, and these are related to covenant theology.
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We'll come to sacraments later in church government later in the year.
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Just to cite one crucial example, the.
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London Baptist Confession says that the one.
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Covenant of grace, so they're still using that language, one covenant of grace, but.
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It says, is revealed. The Westminster Confession says it is administered, but London Baptist Confession says it is revealed by various arguments throughout redemptive history. In other words, in Baptist theology, the.
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Various covenants of the Old Testament, they.
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Bear witness to the covenant of grace. But the covenant of grace is only finally and truly administered.
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In the New Covenant, you see that difference. Reformed theology, these are expressions from Abraham to Moses to David, these are expressions.
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Of the one covenant of grace.
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In Baptist covenant theology, they reveal, they are pointing to, they teach us something.
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But the actual covenant of grace is.
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Given only in the New Covenant. So the various covenants of the Old Testament communicate the benefits of Christ, not in terms of communion with Christ, but.
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In that they impart information.
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In traditional Reformed covenant theology, by contrast, Christ is in, with, and under the types in the Old Testament. More recently, some Baptists have sought to find something of a middle ground between dispensationalism and traditional Reformed covenant theology. And again, this is even a little different from London Baptist Confession, which I would say is the closest to traditional Reformed theology. But this middle ground, sometimes called New.
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Covenant theology, or in a slightly different form, progressive covenantalism. Unlike traditional dispensationalism, progressive covenantalism stresses that God has one unified plan in Scripture.
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And that this plan is revealed through.
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A series of covenants that form the.
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Backbone of the Bible's redemptive storyline. And yet, unlike Westminster covenant theology, progressive covenantalism does not employ a bilateral covenant scheme. By that I mean a covenant of.
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Works and a covenant of grace.
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And this progressive covenant theology does not consider the Ten Commandments an expression of.
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The binding moral law of God, and it does not consider earlier covenants to be an administration of God's redemptive plan.
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So these are all key differences. As a Presbyterian Reformed pastor, I can.
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Appreciate many of the emphases in progressive Covenantalism and have many friends who would.
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Espouse these views and very good scholars articulating these views. And yet I would disagree at the.
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Foundational level as to how new is the New Covenant.
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That that's one way to put the chief disagreement to use an analogy I might have used before, we can ask.
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Whether the establishment of the New Covenant.
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Moves us in God's redemptive economy from a mouse to a cat or from a puppy to a dog. So a mouse to a cat, still an animal. It's a different animal. It's a different. Nobody gets confused. That's a mouse, that's a cat. Cats eat mice in fact, but a puppy to a dog, same organism, same, but one is grown up. So is the New Covenant like a cat to a mouse or is it like a dog to a puppy? Or if we use a different analogy, is it like a car to a bicycle? They're both means of transportation, but completely different. Or, or is it like, I don't know, take what, you know, a brand new Chevy Camaro to a, you know, beat up whatever GMC Acadia, which is what I drive also in the GM family. Is that what the New Covenant is? It's, it's a, it's a car. Just like Moses Mosaic Covenant was a car, but it's a, it's a new car and it's functions better. That's the key difference. How new is the New Covenant? The nature of the covenant community, the.
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Recipients of baptism and the way in which church becomes visible are all related.
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To the question of whether the New Covenant is fundamentally something different or the.
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Same essential thing brought to fullness and completion.
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So is it a different animal altogether, or is it like a puppy now grown up into a dog? Covenant Theology answers the question Traditional Reformed.
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Covenant Theology answers the question by seeing.
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The New Covenant as a grown up dog, not a different animal altogether.
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Podcast Information:
In the episode titled "What Is the Law?", Kevin DeYoung explores the multifaceted role of the law within Christian theology, particularly through the lens of traditional Reformed and Baptist covenant theologies. The discussion delves into the historical and biblical foundations of the law, its divisions, and its applicability for believers today.
Key Points:
Conviction and Guidance: Kevin begins by highlighting the dual role of the law as both a convicting agent and a guide for righteous living. He references Paul's letters to illustrate how the law exposes sin while also providing a blueprint for ethical behavior.
Kevin DeYoung [01:11]: "The law is there to convict us of unrighteousness... it is the perfect rule of righteousness."
Third Use of the Law: Drawing from Calvin, Kevin explains the "third use of the law," which emphasizes the law's role in guiding the Christian's response to God's grace and forgiveness. This is evident in worship practices where the Ten Commandments may be read as a response post-confession.
Theologian 1 [01:35]: "The law is good and holy and there's a right way to use the law."
Distinctiveness of the Decalogue: Kevin emphasizes the unique position of the Ten Commandments within the Mosaic Law. Unlike other laws, the Decalogue was given directly by God's voice, inscribed by His finger on stone, and addressed to individuals rather than nations.
Theologian 1 [08:13]: "The Ten Commandments have a unique place... they are binding in a unique way."
Constitution and Case Law Analogy: He introduces the analogy of the Ten Commandments serving as a "constitution" with subsequent laws acting as "case law." This differentiation highlights the foundational ethical principles versus specific regulatory commands.
Theologian 1 [09:01]: "If the decalogue is the constitution, then the other commandments function as case law."
Tripartite Division: The discussion moves to the traditional Reformed tripartite division of the law into moral, ceremonial, and judicial categories, as articulated in the Westminster Confession of Faith.
Theologian 1 [05:03]: "The law of Moses can be divided into three: moral law, ceremonial laws, and judicial laws."
Historical and Biblical Basis: Kevin counters critiques about the neatness of this division by citing historical theologians like Aquinas, Augustine, and Tertullian, who recognized variations within the Mosaic Law. He also points to biblical evidence in Deuteronomy that supports categorizing the laws based on their functions and applications.
Theologian 2 [07:04]: "If we're looking for neat and tidy, it is not there. And yet the division does have biblical warrant."
Traditional Reformed Covenant Theology: In traditional Reformed theology, all covenants from Abraham to Moses to David are seen as unified expressions of the one covenant of grace, culminating in the New Covenant established by Christ.
Theologian 1 [15:50]: "In traditional Reformed covenant theology... these are expressions from Abraham to Moses to David, these are expressions of the one covenant of grace."
Baptist Covenant Theology: Contrastingly, Baptist covenant theology, particularly as seen in the 1689 London Baptist Confession, views the Old Testament covenants as revelations pointing to the New Covenant, rather than direct administrations of God's redemptive plan. This perspective emphasizes that the covenant of grace is fully realized only in the New Covenant.
Theologian 1 [15:31]: "In Baptist theology, the various covenants of the Old Testament communicate the benefits of Christ... but the covenant of grace is only finally and truly administered in the New Covenant."
Progressive Covenantalism: Additionally, the episode touches on progressive covenantalism, a middle ground that rejects the strict divisions of both traditional Reformed and dispensationalist views, emphasizing a unified redemptive storyline without segregated covenant administrations.
Theologian 2 [16:53]: "Progressive covenantalism stresses that God has one unified plan in Scripture, revealed through a series of covenants."
Moral Law's Continued Relevance: Kevin underscores that the moral law, encapsulated in the Ten Commandments, remains fully binding for Christians. It serves as a direct expression of God's will and guides ethical behavior, pointing believers toward Christ.
Theologian 1 [12:26]: "These things now apply to us in a different way... the Ten Commandments, the moral law, binds in a unique way."
Transformation Through the New Covenant: The New Covenant transforms the believer's relationship with the law, not abolishing it but fulfilling its purpose through the work of Christ. This fulfillment invites genuine obedience and ethical living rooted in love and grace.
Theologian 2 [19:53]: "The New Covenant is like a grown-up dog, not a different animal altogether."
Kevin concludes by acknowledging the ongoing dialogue between traditional Reformed perspectives and newer covenantal theologies within the Christian community. He affirms the importance of maintaining the integrity of the moral law while engaging thoughtfully with diverse theological interpretations.
Kevin DeYoung [19:39]: "The nature of the covenant community... is related to whether the New Covenant is fundamentally something different or the same essential thing brought to fullness and completion."
Kevin encourages listeners to embrace a well-rounded understanding of the law, rooted in scripture and enriched by historical theological insights, to navigate contemporary theological landscapes effectively.
Final Thoughts: The episode "What Is the Law?" provides a comprehensive exploration of the law's role in Christian theology, balancing historical Reformed doctrines with emerging Baptist perspectives. Through engaging dialogue and insightful analysis, Kevin DeYoung equips listeners to appreciate the law's enduring significance and its transformative power in the life of believers.
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Further Resources: Listeners interested in delving deeper into this week's doctrine can refer to Kevin DeYoung's year-long mini systematic theology book, Daily Doctrine, available in print or audio from Crossway.org. For more insightful discussions, subscribing to the Doctrine Matters podcast is highly recommended.