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What if the two most powerful tools in leadership were the two you were never taught to trust — kindness and math? Former high school teacher turned private-equity CEO James Rhee joins Steve Ramona to unpack the philosophy behind his book red helicopter, and why leading with a servant's heart isn't soft — it's the most honest, high-accountability way to build a company and a life.

In this conversation, James shares:

The real story behind the red helicopter — a kindergarten lunch, a grieving family, and a lesson in clarity that degrees can't teach
Why he tells leaders that accounting is not math — and what most executives measure that actually doesn't matter
The difference between flying your own helicopter (agility + agency) and being a passenger on someone else's airplane
How he walked into a first-time CEO role and said, "I'm scared out of my pants" — and why that honesty transformed the company
The Friday habit that keeps him learning: only talking to people he's never met

PS: Watch how James answers "How can people get the book?" He could've dropped an Amazon link and moved on. Instead he pointed listeners straight to their local independent bookstore — because those owners spread knowledge for love, not money. That one small moment tells you everything about kindness in practice. It's not a slogan. It's a decision you make when no one's grading you.

CTA: Hit play, then use the forward and reverse buttons — James dropped tips you'll want to hear twice. Grab red helicopter at your local independent bookstore, and catch Together We Serve on Apple TV, Roku, and streaming, Fridays at 2:00 PM PT / 5:00 PM ET. And remember — kindness is a practice. Go serve someone today.

🎯 What You’ll Learn:
✅ Lead Yourself Before You Lead Others
✅ Kindness Is Investment, Not Weakness
✅ Cash Never Lies

⏱️Timestamps:
[00:02] Kindness, Math & Change

[00:05] The Red Helicopter Story

[00:09] Helicopter Over Airplane

[00:11] Accounting Isn't Math

[00:17] Kindness In The C-Suite

[00:21] Lead Yourself First

🤝Connect with James Rhee:
💥Web: https://www.redhelicopter.com/
💥LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescharlesrhee/
💥Book: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/red-helicoptera-parable-for-our-times-james-rhee?variant=41080740970530

🤝Connect with Steve Ramona:
💥Web: https://steveramona.com/
💥LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steveramona/
💥IG: https://www.instagram.com/bizopportunitynow/
💥Podcast: https://www.servinginbusinesspodcast.com/
💥YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@doingbusinesswithaservantheart?sub_confirmation=1

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