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Don La Greca
Don, I'll be licking the television screen. Licking it like it's ice cream.
Peter Rosenberg
Han, the type of music I listen to would make you cry.
Alan Hahn
And Rosenberg, I expect to be called ball coach.
Don La Greca
This isn't North Dakota, this is New York.
Alan Hahn
This is Don Hahn and Rosenberg on 880 ESPN and the ESPN New York app.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, that's it, everybody. Put your pencils down. The NBA trade deadline is up. And I'll tell you what, a little flurry today. Nothing. I mean, last night, Jimmy Butler and that whole thing, I mean that, that whole guy that was a headliner and nothing compares to Luka Doncic. But, you know, still there was a flurry of moves. We're starting to learn about teams that are like, we're good. We're going to punt on the season. And we're looking at teams that are saying, we're all in. Let's go. Let's go for it. So the Knicks made one minor move, I guess, I don't know. You knew Jericho Sims was going to get moved. They didn't have a use for him anymore and so they, they traded him to Milwaukee. Who's Milwaukee Made a flurry of moves too, but a lot of it was all just, you know, moving furniture. Not really, you know, too exciting. But Jericho Sims move, they get Delon Wright, who's a veteran player. I don't even know if they keep him. But you know, no splash in New York when it comes to the trade deadline.
Chris Canty
And so that has to be positive. No, I'm sorry, Don. Like Allen. Doesn't that mean that they, they must feel good about where Mitch is at. They must feel good about OG I would imagine if there are major concerns with this kind of record, they would be addressing it as they're trying to get ready for a championship run.
Don La Greca
But what I always ask in every sports deadline is, is that was there a player dealt that the Knicks should have got, been in on or could have had and didn't? And if that, and if the answer is no, then I guess there's really no killing them. Like maybe, maybe they don't feel good about Mitch Peter. But was there anybody out there that was conceivable to get if as an insurance policy?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. The Lakers got Mark Williams from the Hornets, seven footer, who's, you know, really good when it comes to throwing lobs and around the basket. Not great defensively, but he's good, you know, good rebounder. Just again, one of these bouncy bigs. He's 23 too. He's got a Lot of, a lot of future. Obviously, uh, the Lakers desperately need a center. They gave up their first round pick, the guy they drafted, Dalton Connect, who's a really good player. Uh, they moved on from him. They also gave up unprotected 2031, their only pick that they could, they could trade. 2031 pick, they gave that up and didn't even protect it because they figure in 2031, Luka Doncic will still be there, they hope. Uh, and they, they expect to be good. So that pick is now gone. The Knicks weren't doing things like that, so they weren't going to get him. But you know, when you look at what could they have used, Williams is a guy that if they were worried about Mitchell Robinson, maybe they would have tried to be a little more aggressive to get a guy like him. And The Hawks moved DeAndre Hunter, who I've always liked. He, he's, he was such a good college player, Peter. You probably saw a lot of him too. He played in Virginia, so he was really good. He, he has been good with the Hawks, but he gets hurt a lot. But he's one of those prototypical 3 and D wings that you love to have and hate to play against. And I don't know, the Cavs got him. The Cavs picked up a player like that. They're 40 and 41 and 10. So the Cavs let you know that they're going for it. And they, they, they have a feeling that they can win in a wide open NBA. So those are two players that, when I saw those names, I was like, okay, there's two that if the Knicks, you know, had the ability to make some moves, but they did all their work in the offseason. Crown Towns, McHale, Bridges, they got OG last year, you know, before the trade deadline. This, they're all set. Anything more that they do will have to take place either in the buyout market, which will be coming up. You'll start to see now teams buying out veterans who are in the last year of their deals. And you can sign them up, anybody can. You can sign it to minimum contracts. And usually what happens is contending teams will get into that market or the off season when the Knicks realize whatever happens at the playoffs. And then they'll look and say, okay, we need to do something. We need to upgrade this area. And they'll try to do it there. So this wasn't their time to be in the headlines, but it was a very interesting trade deadline. No doubt about it.
Don La Greca
No, I want, I want.
Chris Canty
Later on later on today, Alan, I want you to reset the entire NBA. I want you to just tell us what teams can we officially just on our little sheet, can we just put an X through those teams and not think about them moving forward and which teams have an arrow up next to them? Because at the NBA trade deadline you always get a clear gauge of who we're actually going to be talking about come spring.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, that is absolutely true and it's a great conversation for have let's get into that in the 4 o'clock hour. We'll research because by then we'll know everything that is done, done and set up and we'll take a look at the standings and we'll tell you who's really in and who's deciding. It's time to blow it up and more of what now the Knicks look like in that same landscape. So we'll get to that. 800 now. 193776 of course for the calls. But guys, you know, while the super bowl is coming up this weekend and the trade deadline just ended, we got some baseball to talk about here. This is a big deal in New York and a story that we've been talking about ever since the end of the season but also just recently because of things that were said at that amazing day that the Mets had and the feeling that maybe Pete Alonso's days as a Met are over. Well, apparently not. His days continue as he, Jeff Passion had this last night that he's going to get a two year deal. He's going to make $30 million in the first year with the opt out. And I don't know about you guys feel about it. I know this is exactly what I said that I think they should do. Keep it low short term but give him some money to make him feel good. And I look at this as a win win. I think Alonzo wins. I think the Mets win. I think everybody's happy, including the fans.
Don La Greca
All right. Well just looking at the reaction, Met fans are ecstatic about it because they wanted protection for Soto. He became a forever Met with that home run against the brewers and they don't care about money. The Met fans were all screaming at least the calls that we took. And this is not a cap sport. Fans aren't going to go into the, into the mush of international money and you know, posting fees and draft picks. All they're thinking about is love this guy, hit a huge home run for us. We need protection for Soto. I want Vientos to stay at third base. Let's Bring him back. The money's a little bit more than maybe we expected the Mets to end up having to pay, but you nailed it. It's a two year deal. He's got the option if he has a monster year and wants to opt out. All right, fine. And the Mets will go after Vlad Guerrero to replace him at first base or deal with it then. And if he ends up having a pedestrian year, well, then you get him at a discount in the second year. You can move him to DH or do whatever you want.
Peter Rosenberg
Right?
Don La Greca
And you're not landlocking first base. If you want Vlad, you've got the protection for Soto. And I do think there is something. And Andy Martino was on with Michael earlier. There is something that, hey, we're bringing these guys back and they're just commodities, but they are human beings. You know, make them feel good about being here. Don't make him feel like he was raked over the coals and had no choice but to come back. He gets his money, the Mets get their years. Everybody's happy. Now let's go and play ball. It's not a cap sport, Peter, where you have to worry about now, they're screwed for this or that. They've got a billionaire owner. They're still going to be aggressive in free agency next year. They're still going to be able to add to the deadline if they have to. I don't see any negative with this whatsoever.
Chris Canty
The second we knew that Pete wanted to play ball and that Boris was willing to play ball, they wanted to be here. The second we knew that was the case, to me, guys, this was a done deal. You would now just be being that guy to let him walk. And now, without any further ado, you can't take these things for granted, guys. These moments haven't, haven't come along every day. The mets are down 2 nothing in a game. It looks like they're absolutely not going to win. Give me my Howie Rose.
Don La Greca
Yeah.
Joe Fortenbaugh
Three and one to Alonso. Williams sets.
Peter Rosenberg
Here's the pitch.
Joe Fortenbaugh
Swinging a fly ball to right field. Pretty well hit Freelett back at the wall. He jumps. It's gone. He did it. He did it. Pete Alonso, with the most memorable home run of his career, pumps his fist as he rounds second. It's a three run homer. He's given the Mets a three two lead. They all pour out of the dugout. Alonso on his way to home plate. They're waiting for him. He hits the plate. He is first. Congrat by Nimmo, hugged by Lindor. There are A dozen Mets waiting for him outside the dugout. Pete Alonso keeps this fairytale season going with the fairy tale swing of his career. Three to two New York.
Peter Rosenberg
He's one of those guys. Yeah, he's one of those guys, Peter. That at any moment he can have a moment because of what he can do by hitting a baseball.
Chris Canty
And you can't take moments like that for granted. Guys, this fan base now, the, the kids, don, who are 22 years old, that may have been the greatest moment they've ever had as a Met fan.
Don La Greca
Well, this is that matters. It's not apples to apples. I get it. But I've been comparing Alonzo to Saquon for a while now, Peter. You know that going back to the K show, you know, two forever players, two guys that were, that were ingrained into, in the fandom of this organization and both organizations had to make a decision what was, was best for them. And the Giants made the decision they thought was best for them. And the Mets were also trying to make a decision what was best for them. But I wonder how much a guy like Stearns, who admitted he was a Giants fan, Cohen, a New Yorker, they're paying attention to how the Saquon thing went down, how bad it looked, made the Giants look. Now the Giants are in a cap sport, so that's where the comparison kind of changes. But the Giants are getting eviscerated. Saquon might win a Super bowl on Sunday. The Giant fan base is apoplectic about it, how guy was treated. It really ended up being a huge negative for the Giants, even though it might ultimately have been the right decision. Losing Alonzo might ultimately have been the right decision. But do you really want to alienate your fan base and create what has happened to the Giants over something that doesn't restrict you cap wise, doesn't overly hurt you financially. Yes, you could have walked away and said, we've, we've, we've done better for organization because we saved ourselves some money. We can go in a different direction next year. But was it worth the negativity of seeing him go someplace else, maybe having a monster year and upsetting your fans over a handful of millions of dollars that at the end of the day really does not affect the direction the Mets are going to go in the future.
Peter Rosenberg
No.
Don La Greca
I wonder how much that played a part in decision making here.
Peter Rosenberg
I do think, I think it did. Stearns is a guy that will always tell you, don't put emotion into it. That's the thing when you are running a team. I believe that's something that even Cohen said right at that event, is that the fans will feel a certain way we got to the team without, you know, using that emotion. But when you look at it, just again, put the numbers on a piece of paper, look at it and you just say to yourself, well, you know what, this is not that big of a deal. It isn't like, it's not going to like, it's not the NFL. There's no hard cap, there's no like, oh, we got to cut this guy to make this work. It's not the NBA where it puts you in restrictive places. This is the wild, wild west. You could do whatever you want. You can spend what you want. It's going to cost the owner some money. But we all know Steve Cohen has been swinging it. He's been letting you know, I don't care. And so if, if I got to sprinkle a little something extra on a little extra cheese on the taco, as my man Bart Scott would say for Pete Alonso. And he then tells us, well, all right, I know I'd rather have like the five year deal, but if you're only going to commit to me for, for two, give me the opt out. So if I kill it, I can get a chance to go back on the open market and then have a chance to get my big contract. It's win win for both, both sides and the fans are happy. So I can't find the negative guys. I'm searching for it, but I can't find no.
Don La Greca
Michael was talking about overpay and maybe there was an overpay and we were talking about going into this. You don't do things in a vacuum. You just can't give him anything he wants because then that opens the eyes of other players when they become free agents who maybe have better years than Alonzo had last year. Go, well, you gave it to P. Why aren't you giving it to me? But it also works on the other side. If you play hardball with a guy, just treat him as a commodity and not a human being. Rake him over the coals, drag him back to the Mets as if he had no other choice and saved yourself a few bucks. Players pay attention to that too and go, well, geez, they really just treated this guy as a commodity. He had a big home run for us last year. He's been a forever met. He's going to end up breaking all of the Mets offensive records. Like did he really needed to be treated that way, like, so I listen, it's not a complete comparison because the Giants were in a cap. They tried to articulate the things they were able to do because they didn't bring back Saquon. That's not the case here with the Mets. They are now not going to lose out on a player because there might have been a slight overpay with Alonso. They're not going to lose out on Guerrero next year because they gave Alonzo money. They're not going to come up short in their rotation of their bullpen because they gave Alonzo money. They might come up short, but that'll be because of decision making, not because they were restricted by the money they gave Pete. So I'm with you. I just do not see the negative at all.
Chris Canty
Well, let's, let's talk to the people because I'm curious to see Alan, if anyone out there sees this differently. Like what I was trying to text you guys earlier. I like Pete. I think Pete had to be here. To me, the reason it's sort of, I wouldn't call it a nothing burger, but like, yeah, because I don't understand without this being a money issue, what would we even be considering? It's just such a no brainer. So I'm curious. Maybe we'll talk to some Met fans out there who will say to us, no, absolutely not. I was ready to move on from Pete Alonzo. But I don't get it.
Peter Rosenberg
There aren't any. I mean, remember what we talked about when we, when we got into this? I think it was a week ago because I was like flabbergasted by how many Mets fans were almost turning on Cohen about it. And we're saying, give him whatever he wants. Remember that? It was like I couldn't believe how many Mets blogs were all about how you have to give him what he wants. They were the ones panicking. And I was saying, no, you wait this thing out and you get him for the discount. You do the two year thing. You make him want to come back. Make him go to Boris and say, you know what, I know you're throwing out there, Cincinnati and Toronto and San Francisco, and I forget the other was a fourth team. Like, I don't want to go to those places. I want to play here. This team has some magic. Something great could happen this year. I don't want to miss out on it. And that's exactly what happened.
Don La Greca
What I had said when it looked like they were moving on, I said, I get it, I understand it. But it still sucks. So yes, now I'm happy because Now I have a guy that I genuinely like as a player. And the Mets, usually, these are the kind of guys they always lose. Like, finally, finally, now it's a guy with. It might only be two more years, but he's in his 30s already, so, I mean, how long do you think he has? But if he ends up having a monster year and he opts in for next year, and now we're talking through 26 and, you know, maybe there is a way, there's a path that he can stay here even longer than the two years. I like that. As a Met fan, I. Fans don't get caught up in the money and all that. That's for other sports. In baseball, it's every day, the players kind of matter. To turn on the TV and see familiar faces, to be able to see guys that you've rooted for. You talk about the greatest moment for a young fan. Yeah, Peter, So how does that feel? Even if it's better for the organization down the road of just seeing that great moment, be a guy that's a Blue Jay, next year all just be pawns. And Chess, Wouldn't it be kind of cool, too?
Peter Rosenberg
Wouldn't it be kind of cool, too? Let's just say the Mets have a run. They go back, you know, to the nlcs, maybe even get to the World Series, right? And Alonzo is a part of it. But even if he's not a big part of it, maybe if, maybe if he has a season like he just had and yet has maybe a moment or two in the playoffs and then they win the World Series, you can now walk away from him. And I don't think anybody would feel a certain way about it. Now, if he has a great year, different story. But if he has a pit, another pedestrian year, and you still have team success and he gets to be part of it, you can, you know, and he. He opts out, or even if he doesn't, like, you're fine. I just think it was because of the abruptness of the whole thing. And the last memory you have is the epic home run that you just played. 800. Now we're 93776. So let's hear from the Mets fans. You heard from Don. Let's hear from A.J. in Queens now. Hey, A.J.
Caller
Hey, how you doing, guys?
Peter Rosenberg
Good, good.
Caller
First time caller, long time fan. A new fan of Al Anon. Listened to you before. Peter Rosenberg, Hot 97. Been listening for like 20 years.
Chris Canty
Thanks, man.
Peter Rosenberg
Keep it here. Where were you before? If you want, if you're a first Time listener. Where were you before?
Caller
No, no, first time caller, always a lister.
Peter Rosenberg
That's even better.
Chris Canty
God bless.
Caller
My fault. Yeah, no Michael K Show. God bless Michael Kate. So he's a good guy. So I got, I got a couple of things. First thing, the lineup. They went Lindor, Soto, Alonzo, Vientos and Nemo. Right.
Peter Rosenberg
That's the next conversation we're going to have is where do you put Pete?
Caller
That's a hot take. It's a hot take, but I would rather Lindor, Vientos, Alonzo and then Soto.
Peter Rosenberg
Soto. Soto and cleanup. I think you got about him after Lindor, Don.
Don La Greca
Yeah, I, I think so.
Peter Rosenberg
He needs to get five.
Don La Greca
Alonzo's batted cleanup. Soto's been a two or three his entire career. That's probably how they're going to do it.
Peter Rosenberg
So who's your. Who, who's going into third spot? Is that Vientos in the third?
Caller
Yeah, Viento start. Because he's. We saw what he did with the Dodgers when they, while he was second against Abdulino.
Peter Rosenberg
Right.
Caller
And you saw what he did, A.J.
Peter Rosenberg
All he's got to do is do it again. Right? Because sometimes in these moments you have it and then you next year you're like, okay, let's do that again. And then you realize, okay, so that was just a little bit.
Don La Greca
Vientos is raking, which I have a feeling he might blossom into a big time player. You saw it in the postseason. Okay, I think I'd bat him third, Alonzo fourth, Soto second.
Peter Rosenberg
So when you're so again and the whole thinking here is. And it just helped me because I'm not, you know, I'm not the smartest when it comes to this kind of stuff because I saw what the Yankees did with Soto and it made a ton of sense because you have like, you could argue that he had the season he had because he was hitting after Judge. Right. And so now it's hitting after Lindor. And the thinking is if Lindor is on base and as you guys were telling me in the group chat is that you're not going to walk him. You have to pitch to Soto. So it's puts a lot. It's almost like, does Lindor now set up Soto? And then you need somebody that if Soto gets on now, you need somebody that's going to take care of business after that. And that's the big bats.
Don La Greca
The thing with Soto is that like, it's hard to he, he's so selective. He just gets on base.
Peter Rosenberg
He works the count.
Don La Greca
So if Vientos and Alonso are going to, are going to hit. You're going to, it's, you're going to have to, you don't want to put them on base because those guys are going to hit. Now if those guys aren't hitting, then you can pitch around Soto and then go, go after those guys. But it really depends on how it, how it shakes out. But I, I just know from a comfort it was, it was a big deal when he was San Diego about batting second, third. He's not going to bat cleanup. I don't see that happening. Alonzo has batted cleanup throughout his career. So from a comfort level, that's probably where they're going to leave it. So to me, I would probably just be Soto either second or third and we'll see how it, you know, shakes out. A lot of time before we get to that.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, no, I love the conversation though. It's so much fun. Matt and Merrick, what's up? Matt, you're up next.
Caller
Hey, what's going on, guys? How's it going today?
Peter Rosenberg
Good.
Don La Greca
What's up?
Caller
Wanted to talk about Juan Soto in comparison to Pete Alonso. I think what's kind of ironic about this whole thing is that first off, no teams, traditionally speaking, ever get first basemans for their overall production. They usually get them for home runs. I feel like everyone can agree on that. And if you look at Soto in comparison to Alonzo, Soto had seven more home run runs than Alonzo had last year. He's getting 54 million a year. He's getting double of what they paid Alonzo. I think that is hysterical. They literally took him from a crosstown rival, or even if it's not a rival crosstown team and they're paying the guy, Alonzo, who is the only reason why they even had their season extended half of their so called future. Just because he has seven more whole months, he's going to get paid double of what Alonso is going to earn. I just think it's so hysterical and I think it's bad business because if Alonzo goes and hits 40 home runs next year and then the year after that he hits 35, he's going to opt out.
Peter Rosenberg
If he hits 40 home runs, Matt, he's opting out.
Caller
Oh, no, he's not going to opt out because you don't know, listen, why.
Peter Rosenberg
Wouldn'T you opt out if you had 40 home runs?
Don La Greca
He has a monster season. He'll opt out and try to test free agents.
Peter Rosenberg
Yes.
Caller
No, no, no. This is, this is what will happen, right? He'll have old the leverage because he. He will know. His team will know. Like, okay, still 31, 32. Now the team's gonna have to really pay me. So the Mets, in my opinion, fumbled. They could have got him for five. Now they're gonna have to pay him more as time goes on. I'm just curious. What, what, like, do you understand what I'm saying?
Don La Greca
I know what you're saying.
Peter Rosenberg
I know what Matt's doing. Matt's going very black and white with this because it's. I know what you're doing. Soto is. How old is Soto versus how old is Alonzo? There's one way to look at it. The other. Now it also position wise. Now, defensively, neither guy is really going to be a plus. We know that. But one guy has a little more magnetism than the other.
Caller
Let's see that. That's exactly what I'm saying, is that, that's why this whole thing is very interesting. Because traditionally speaking, right, if you look at guys like Jim Tomei, Carlos Delgado, I don't know, like, maybe throw out, like another random first baseman from the 90s, early 2000s, you don't. You don't get them on your team for overall, you know, Kenny Lofton, Juan Pierre, Derek Jeter type of baseball play. You get those guys to hit 30 home runs. So, so, so the reason why it's so fascinating is they're literally paying a guy who's not that great defensively, who hits 70 more, seven more home runs, double the 27 million. It's hysterical because it's. It's just. The whole thing is just so ironic. And Pete Alonso is kind of like the Derek Jeter for the Mets. And that's why it doesn't make sense. It's like, it's almost like, weird in a way.
Peter Rosenberg
I know you. Thank you, Matt. But, guys, I know. I think. I know what he's trying to do here, but I think we're also completely undervaluing Juan Soto as a complete baseball player.
Don La Greca
He has decided to pigeonhole his argument on the home runs.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. And only as if Soto only hits home runs like he's Dave Kingman.
Don La Greca
Soto finished third in mvp.
Peter Rosenberg
Thank you.
Don La Greca
And we're talking about Pete Alonso having an off year.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, yeah.
Don La Greca
All right. Both of. All right. Throw the defense out. All right. That, that, that's different. You know, Pete Alonzo, you know, doesn't hit for average. He didn't have a ton of RBIs last year. That's not all his fault. He had 34 home runs and you're looking at Soto having 41. Yeah. If you look at it from that standpoint, just home runs.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. All right.
Don La Greca
But, but there's more to it. Obviously, the, the.
Peter Rosenberg
On base, he's not the Derek Jeter of the Mets. He doesn't set the standard. He's not a clubhouse leader. Like, that's not the things he, he doesn't represent all the things that Derek Jeter did when he was playing for the Yankees. Like, like again, I, I hate disparaging a guy when you make comparisons, but when you do that, he's not that. He might be, he might be the, the beloved player that fans like, but he's not the Derek Jeter of the Mets. Right. Like, he's not a, he's not, he's not setting a standard in the clubhouse boys. Right. I mean, it's fair to say that team was, the year before was a mess because they had no leadership.
Don La Greca
And listen, we live in an analytic world, as much as that irritates people, but you're talking about on base. Plus slugging was 788 for Pete. Alonzo was 989%. I mean, it's just. And plus he's five years younger. So. No, he just pigeonholed his argument about the home run.
Peter Rosenberg
No, it was home runs. Right? That's what it was. 800. Now 193776, we have more calls to get to. Let's see if anybody can be better than that one. But I, @ least he was making the argument, but I knew what he was doing. He was going getting very, very specific, very black and white about everything. Instead of realizing that there's a lot more to it. Juan Soto just brings you way more than Pete Alonso does. But the Mets have Pete Alonso and Juan Soto. And so with this lineup, when you look at it, guys, let's try to figure out nevermind who hits where. How about where can this Mets team go next season?
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Chris Canty
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Peter Rosenberg
They'll meet them now because you know exactly who they are and what they're going to look like. Pete Alonso is back as your first baseman and this roster is pretty much set. And you don't have to move Vientos now. He could play stay at third where he is very comfortable. I mean this, this Mets roster is now all set up for you. You can question whether or not you think the pitching rotation, the starting rotation is good enough. But with Alonzo in the fold now, you know what it looks like. We'll Back to your calls 800 now. 193776.
Chris Canty
Oh yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
But I want to remind everybody, hey, for the first time, come see us tomorrow. We're going to be out live for the first time this show we'll be doing a live spot. Yes, very big, bigly. The tap Room in Rockville center out on Long Island. Little special countdown to kickoff broadcast to get you ready. Yeah, big game, the Tap Room. By the way, everybody, it is steps away from the Long Island Railroad station right there in Rockville Center. So real easy to get to come hang out with us. And we were making this clear. We all agreed, right? No calls tomorrow. The only time where the calls are going to be people live in the place. It's the no right no no call crew. We have a good, have an extra microphone. And when it's time for us to talk to people and get opinions, we're going to do it only with Those who show up and hang out with us.
Chris Canty
Well, it's a big deal. It's a big. It's coming out on our first day when we're trying to show everybody. And this is. I was digging into the numbers yesterday with Anthony Pusick. Big shout out to everyone who's already subscribed to Don Han and Rosenberg, the podcast. The numbers are doing great. They're going up. I'm. I was thrilled when I saw where we're at. Please keep it. Keep hitting subscribe and rating and reviewing. But this is the early days, guys. We're gonna remember the people who show up and show out the first time. This is the family.
Peter Rosenberg
Yep. Day ones. We always remember the day ones.
Don La Greca
I wish I could remember my first remote with Michael. Maybe if Michael's listening, he'll remember the first time we went out somewhere.
Peter Rosenberg
Were you sitting at a different table, just doing updates?
Don La Greca
No, it was allowed at the main table. Oh, that's nice. But you are right. There was probably. I was doing updates. He did allow me to. To be able to contribute in other ways besides the updates. But no, he didn't send me to the kids table.
Peter Rosenberg
I was kidding.
Don La Greca
No, no. In the history. It's a legitimate question.
Peter Rosenberg
Wow. I was just joking. I didn't know that was a real.
Don La Greca
We started in oh 2. We probably didn't do any remotes to 10 to 1. We probably didn't start remotes until we moved to afternoon, which was in the spring of O5.
Chris Canty
But you remember that. You may not remember the event, Dom, but I bet you remember the people you first met when you started going out. That's the thing. It's the people who matter. So we're excited to meet everyone tomorrow. I'm gonna tell you guys right now though, I'm getting this out early. I don't want to be that guy. I'm putting this out right now.
Peter Rosenberg
Be that guy.
Chris Canty
I have a three week old. Expect fist bumps, not handshakes and hugs. I'm sorry.
Don La Greca
It's a big deal.
Chris Canty
It's fist bump central for me tomorrow, guys. I love you. I will. I will give you a pat on the back.
Peter Rosenberg
Don will hug. Don will hug.
Chris Canty
I can't get face to face with a three week old. I can't.
Don La Greca
Mojo. I told the story. I was in Minnesota and when the kid that was the first super bowl after the kids were born. So that was in February. The kids were born in December, so they were two months old, went to Minnesota, got sick like I did every radio row of every Super Bowl I've ever been. And my wife's like, stay away from the kids. But they had to get fed. I wore a mask. This is pre Covid. So I actually had masks in the house when Covid hit because I had put the mask on feeding the kids. Then I had to go to Winnipeg. I'm in Winnipeg. Get the call. Kids had rsv. Nancy had to take them to the emergency room. Two months old. I never heard.
Chris Canty
That's. God forbid. That's.
Don La Greca
That's not what you want.
Peter Rosenberg
So. No, it's not what you want. Yeah. So. And again, fist bumps for Peter, hugs for Don.
Chris Canty
What about Alan? What about Alan?
Peter Rosenberg
We'll see. 800 now.
Chris Canty
I think you're always a fist bump guy. I'll be honest. I think you're a fist bump guy through and through.
Peter Rosenberg
That Spetz, that's been my MO. Joe in MetLife. Joe, good afternoon.
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Excellent job, guys. Again, love you, brothers.
Chris Canty
You know what I mean?
Peter Rosenberg
Thank you.
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And I'm just going to listen to you, Aaron. Judge Arwan Soto, who wins the World Series first, and if Derek Jeter was.
Chris Canty
On a mediocre team that he go.
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To the hall of Fame. Thank you for my call.
Don La Greca
It's a lot.
Chris Canty
Packed a lot in there.
Peter Rosenberg
He was the. Joe just threw a grenade and left the room.
Don La Greca
He was going to the hall of Fame because he had what, like 3600 hits or whatever. The number was ridiculous. He was going to the hall of Fame. But would he be. He wouldn't have gone in one vote shy of 100%. He might not have been appreciated if he spent his whole career with the Pirates and never went to a World Series, but he'd still be remembered as a great player. I mean, we'd still. Tony Gwynn played in one World Series. No, two. He played in two World Series, didn't win either of them. We still know Tony Gwynn. If. If Wade Boggs never went to the Yankees and won the championship, we'd still remember Wade Boggs, but I don't think he'd be the God that he's remembered for if he wasn't. Well, Yankee. Because part of Jeter's allure was the. Was the five rings, right? Yes, that was part of his allure. If you take that away from him, he was a winner.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, that was always the thing. He was such a winner, and that's what was. But was he the best shortstop of his era?
Don La Greca
Well, listen, if Alex Rodriguez stayed at shortstop, he was probably the better shortstop.
Peter Rosenberg
Agree.
Don La Greca
Now, obviously, he cheated to get to that, but from a number standpoint. But he was better than Miguel Tejada. He was better than Omar Viscal. Now, Jeter was amazing, but he wouldn't if he was a royal his whole career.
Peter Rosenberg
Can I just say, though, that when you say if he wasn't on a winning team, you know, would he get in the hall of Fame? Well, Derek Jeter on a team helped make them a winner. Like you're taking away one of the things that he did. He made incredible plays. Like he did things in big moments. That was the allure of Derek Jeter, so to say. Well, what if he's on a bad team? Then he wouldn't have been Derek Jeter.
Don La Greca
But, but, but let me ask you that. This is not basketball, it's baseball. You can only get your fourth bats and catch what's hit.
Peter Rosenberg
Sure.
Don La Greca
So who is one of the worst teams in baseball during Jeter's era of mid-90s until what, maybe Kansas City Royals. Yeah, the Royals got better late, but yeah, let's say can't. So if he's on Kansas City, would they have gone to the world? No.
Peter Rosenberg
He gets traded to the Yankees.
Don La Greca
Yeah, yeah. That's the thing. That's the thing of baseball, Peter. Right. If you were on the Padres, if you were on the Royals, if you're on the Pirates, you probably end up on the Yankees.
Peter Rosenberg
If you were that good.
Don La Greca
Now who's going to win? What, Soto or Judd? Listen, the Yankees just went to the World Series. They lost Juan Soto, but they had a really good off season.
Chris Canty
This is a crapshoot question. There's no way.
Don La Greca
No, but that caller, that caller, I could tell Anthony, you spoke to him before he got on the air, seemed to be like, they're never going to win with Judge. I had a. I guess he's one of those guys, the Judge isn't going to win because he dropped the fly ball in game five in that fifth inning. And I, I had.
Peter Rosenberg
But that's, that's what a Mets fan will do. And that's.
Don La Greca
I don't know if that was a Mets fan. Am I not even a Met fan? I don't know.
Peter Rosenberg
He, we've talked to him a lot. He, he, he works at MetLife. He's like one of the security guys. He's a great guy. Salt of the earth. He's great and we love him. But he, he likes to. This is the kind of stuff that he likes to throw out there and then leave. So it's fun. I like these conversations and I'm telling You guys, when we get. When we get on the other side of March Madness and all that stuff, and we start now, okay, April comes and we've got the NFL draft, we've got the NBA playoffs, but we're also gonna have baseball where it's really real. I like. Are we on a collision course where it's going to be Judge versus Soto instead of Judge and Soto?
Chris Canty
Probably.
Peter Rosenberg
Are we on a collision course of October baseball in New York City, where we were very close last year?
Don La Greca
I understand it's still tough. The Mets still have the Braves in their division. They still have the Phillies in their division. The Yankees are still the best team. Even losing Soto, the Orioles have to prove to me in a big spot they can beat the Yankees and do any damage in the postseason. I still think the Yankees are the best team in their division. So that gives them a better chance to go into the World Series. Because unless. Unless a lot changes, the National League's way harder than the American League. That's why I took exception with people to say, well, the Yankees had a better year. They went farther. Well, yeah, they went farther because they went to the World Series because they. They didn't have to go through. I know what the Mets had to go through. The Mets lost to the Dodgers. Yankees lost to the Dodgers. The way it was set up, the Mets played the Dodgers earlier. If the Mets got to play.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, it's funny because the other argument.
Don La Greca
Guardians, they probably go to the World Series.
Peter Rosenberg
Don, the other argument that I've gotten from my Mets fan family is the Mets played the Dodgers better than the Yankees did.
Don La Greca
I know, but that's the push game. I know, but that, That's a little. I think that's digging a little too deep. And I'm a Met fan. I just think that's. That, that's. I wouldn't go there, but I will say, and I'm not disrespecting the Yankees run, but if you had a choice, Royals, guardians or the Mets having to go through the Brewers, Phillies and Dodgers. If the Yankees had to do that, they probably have their season end in the league championship series and the Mets go to the World Series and lose to the Dodgers. Dodgers were the best team in baseball.
Peter Rosenberg
They were.
Don La Greca
It sickens me to say, because I'm not a Dodger guy, they were the.
Peter Rosenberg
Best team in baseball and now they're trying to do it again, and that's why the pressure's on them. But I, like I said, I look at the two teams here that we have in this market, And a lot of the drama that's in between them. And it just does set up to be what could be a lot of fun this summer with already the way fans are talking.
Alan Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Chris Canty
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
Alan Hahn
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Peter Rosenberg
All right, boys, so we didn't spend a lot of time this week talking about it because there's been so many other things going on in the world of sports. But, but we do have a Super bowl to play on Sunday, 6:30. I mean, we got to spend some time talking snackage and everything else, right? Getting set up for the game. But right now we got to talk about how we can put a little cheese on our taco watching this game. And Joe Fortenbaugh, who's one of my favorite people that we have at espn, you see him on, on espn, BET Live. You see him on the radio, he hosting. You see him every now and then he jumps on first take. Get up. You see him with a mustache. Every now and then as well, we discuss it. He's one of the best dress guys we have on the air. It's Joe Fortenbaugh joining us right now. Joe, what's happening, man?
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Let me tell you, boy, this is already off to a much better start than when I went on with those two bozos this morning. Barton Carlin, talk about a low rent operation with those two. Apparently they were in the dark. They're in the dark. They're telling me they're in the dark. They don't have any power. Carlin's telling I have to call him in order to do this, in order to talk to him. Like, no, no, no, no, no. This is Mo Green. You don't buy me. I buy you.
Don La Greca
You understand?
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We got that situation. And then he sends me the wrong number and then I call in and then, you know, Bart is barred and that ends up being fantastic. But this is just a nice warm welcome. It's nice to see how professionals handle their business.
Don La Greca
Wow.
Peter Rosenberg
First of all, Joe, let's, let's make sure we pull back the curtain for a second. Joe is still feeling, he's reeling from the fact that Carlin used to be his co host.
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Yeah, Judas. Judas leaves to go back to New York City. We had a nice little thing going on. And how about this, gentlemen? How about this? I can still, we still see him in our Google document. He still accesses the Google Doc to see what Topics we will be discussing on our radio. Can you believe it?
Peter Rosenberg
Spygate.
Chris Canty
Now, you know what? You know what? Would it make you feel better if to start this off, we we played you the 13 second audio of when Carlin died on the air a few weeks ago or two months ago.
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If you guys want to treat the audience to that, you can go ahead. I think I've already had enough fun at his expense in the last two minutes.
Peter Rosenberg
I think you have. Before we get to the NFL stuff and the super bowl stuff, I do want to read probably with of all the reactions to the Luca Donses trade, this tweet of yours should have gone viral. It should have a lot more likes and views than it did because this is a great tweet. He said this. Congratulations to the Atlanta Hawks, who are now responsible for the second worst Luka Doncic trade in Luka Donch's trade history.
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I mean, how about it, Rob?
Don La Greca
Right?
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Like people forget about that, that Atlanta had him and they made the deal for Trey Young. And I remember that was, oh, the name's gonna slip my mind. But the Travis Schlank, the assistant gm. And this is not to burn. Travis Travis was a good friend of ours in the Bay Area. When I was doing local radio, he would come on the air with us all the time. Great guy. He was working in Atlanta. He had left Golden State, he had gotten a promotion and he was looking for his version of Steph Curry to build his team around. And he thought Trae Young could be that guy. Again, this isn't. I'm not trying to make any jokes or anything. He had a whole strategy for what he was going to try to deploy and you know, they made the swing and then Luka ends up as a maverick. And you look back over that over the years and you just keep thinking to yourself, damn, like, how much do they wish they could have kept Luka?
Don La Greca
Yeah.
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And then this deal goes down and you're thinking to yourself, all right, Atlanta's off the hook.
Peter Rosenberg
This is.
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That's only the second worst Luca trade all time.
Don La Greca
Quick, where is Hertz MVP odds for the Super Bowl?
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So that's a good question because normally the quarterback of the team is going to be the favorite of the team. Like that's a lousy way to say it, but like Mahomes is obviously your overall favorite and then the best rated eagle is going to be Saquon Barkley, not Jalen Hurts, which isn't all that far from what we saw last year with San Francisco. Right. Like there's a lot of similar narratives with the Niners last year and the Eagles this year. It's a really good defense, a really good rushing attack and a quarterback that you wonder if it's left to him, will he be able to deliver. It feels like we're recycling a lot of the same conversations from last year. This year, just changing some of the names. So that's. Go ahead.
Don La Greca
No, no, you please finish.
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I just. That's where you can start to find some value because Hertz has an opportunity, opportunity to put some numbers up in this. That's, you know, he finds the end zone with his legs. Kansas City deploys man coverage at the fifth highest rate in the NFL. Jalen Hurts ranks number three in the NFL against man coverage in terms of quarterback rating. He's got a better rating than Burrow, than Allen, than Jackson and Mahomes against man coverage. So there's a chance in this game, there's a path where he has a really big night.
Don La Greca
That's why I was saying, because Kansas City does not allow running backs to rush for 100 yards. They don't. And if they're going to shut down Barkley and Philadelphia is going to win this game, which I think they have a chance to do, I think that would open the door for Hertz to be the mvp.
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I think that's a good line of thought right there. I also think if you are of the belief Philadelphia wins this game, you can take a shot with some of the MVP longer shots if you want. Like AJ Brown at 30 to 1, I thought was intriguing because this is one of those teams that isn't solely dependent on the quarterback to deliver the big game. Now granted, like, you can have a scenario where someone just outshines Mahomes on the Kansas City side, although we haven't seen it yet. But you could see a scenario where it's Barkley. You could see a scenario where it's A.J.
Don La Greca
Green.
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You could see a defender scenario. It's a long shot, but you could see a scenario where money is coming in on the under. If this is a lower scoring game, you could get the big defensive effort that leads to something.
Chris Canty
What's the, what's the most fun prop you think in this game? And I know there's silly ones, but like the most fun prop that could reasonably happen, you think?
Don La Greca
Joe.
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Okay, so I don't play a lot of like Gatorade ones unless you get information. Right. Like those, those bets are winnable. The, the national anthem used to be the best one.
Chris Canty
All right.
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Like the Biggest bet at the time of my life, eight years ago, the biggest bet I ever won was a national anthem. Under bet, it was Eagles, Patriots, it was. Pink was singing the national anthem. And what happened was back in the day, you used to have people who were inside the building who could record the rehearsals. And then the information would get out and you would just get to as many books as you can and talk to everyone you knew with accounts to try to get down as much as possible. Because you can't just bet $50,000 on the under for an anthem. No books, taking that. But if you got a lot of books and a lot of friends and a lot of opportunity, you can get a decent amount down. Well, so Pink is doing the rehearsals and they all timed out to 154. The over under was two minutes. So you slam the under and it goes great. Problem is, some idiot like 5 years ago is standing outside Raymond James Stadium the day before Brady's Bucks take on Mahomes, his Chiefs. And he filmed himself recording the rehearsal, which was taking place in the stadium behind him. And he thought he was so freaking clever, not realizing he blew this angle that many of us had been playing for a decade, decade to that point. So you can't even play that one anymore. So the anthem's kind of out of range. Gatorades out of range. I'm going to give you two long shots I like. First sack of the game, Trent McDuffie, Chiefs cornerback, 50 to one total long shot, 43 career games. Only four and a half career sacks. So why would I want to make this bet? Two of those four and a half career sacks came against Philadelphia on a Monday night last year. Spags knows he has to get pressure on Hertz. If you can pressure Hertz, you could turn him into an inferior quarterback. He doesn't handle pressure well. Go back to that game on Monday night last year. Spags was bringing pressure from everywhere. He brought McDuffie off the edge multiple times. And McDuffie had two sacks in that game. I'd expect to see something like that again. So first chief with the sack is like 30 to 1. First overall player with a sack is 50 to 1. I'd look at that another longer shot. I think that could be fun. Jalen hurts to lead everybody in rushing after the first quarter. It's nine to one. Okay, now over a 60 minute game, you have a scenario where the cream's gonna rise to the top because you're gonna have a lot of opportunity. That's where Barkley should win. But if you shrink your sample down to 15 minutes, you create more volatility. More volatility creates more chaos, and more chaos creates opportunity opportunities for betting. Enter this bet here at nine to one. If the Eagles go on some seven or eight minute drive to open the game, or if Kansas City goes on a seven or eight minute drive to open the game like the Commanders did in the NFC Championship, we're going to have limited touches. And if Hertz ends up breaking, I don't know, a couple scrambles, 20, 22 yards, and Spagnolo's keying on Saquon Barkley, we could get home with this one. It's only 15 minutes, nine to one. Jalen hurts to lead the first quarter in rushing.
Peter Rosenberg
We have been talking all week about this, actually the last two weeks, because the guys I work with, Joe, feel like they're, they've had fatigue when it comes to the Chiefs. They're not interested in seeing a three peat. There's nothing about that that grabs their attention. And it's also where in New York. So everybody hates the Eagles. So there hasn't been, at least in this market, the sizzle that the super bowl usually brings. Now, I know you're in New Orleans and so you're in the bubble of this is the greatest thing happening right now in the world. Because that's usually when you're in that, in that environment, you're just surrounded by it so much. But I'm wondering if while we're feeling it, are they seeing it at all? Because people do bet a ton of money. They put a lot into betting the Super Bowl. Is this one still driving that same kind of interest when it comes to betting?
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That's an excellent question. So I don't have any data on that right now from a betting standpoint, but I can tell you the initial ticket prices have dropped. Now, I don't know how much that means, but we saw the lowest ticket going for around five grand, a little over five grand last week, and now you're down around four grand. Now, some of that's natural. And today's Wednesday, which is when the player tickets flood the market and they get out there everywhere. So you kind of have another opportunity. But I think there's something to be said. There is this debate going on amongst the people who really are interested in the history of what the Chiefs are going for. And obviously, if you're in New York, yeah, you're gonna hate the Philadelphia side of this. I totally get that. But I do think there are a lot of people outside of Philadelphia outside of the region who are just looking for anything to grab onto to beat the Chiefs. Like one of the big talking points down here has been the officiating that they. All they did was ask all the players at media about the officiating. Someone asked Mahomes who his favorite ref is. So I think as, as. As ugly as that fan base can get somehow, some way, Philadelphia is America's team for the moment.
Don La Greca
Does Eli get in tonight?
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I think he deserves to get in. I know that this is a big argument and I know this is an Eagle fan here, but I, I love Eli. I love the career he put together. I think there's so much that won't be accounted for. Like, you talk about how your market just chews people up and spits them out. And here's this Southern kid that showed up in New York for two decades and took all the heat you could throw at him. And every time you thought he was down, he delivered you a Super Bowl. Then you thought him and Coughlin were down again and he delivered you another Super Bowl. And he just provided so much stability. And I think you lose track of that. Like with Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh and Eli in New York. It gets towards the end and you're like, it's time for a change. And then look at what's happened. It's been a joke since then. Like that, that leadership, that stability, the veritas that he brings to that gravitas, I should say that he brings to that locker room. That can't be understated. So I understand he might not have as many wins or he took too many sacks or he did too many picks. I don't care. I look at the organization post Eli and it's been a freaking joke.
Don La Greca
Oh, no.
Peter Rosenberg
Great take, Joe. Fantastic.
Chris Canty
I don't have as much of an issue with non Giants fans not loving Eli and being like, he didn't impress me. He's just a Super bowl guy. The idea of a Giants fan not thinking this guy's an absolute hall of Famer is craziness. They treated Eli and Coughlin in this market like absolute garbage, and now they.
Peter Rosenberg
Wish they had him back because you don't know what you got till it's gone. And those two guys walked out of the especially when Tom Coughlin walked out of the building. They have never been the same as a franchise foreign ball. Have a great time. It's always great to catch up with you. And you know, you don't have to go on that other show. You just come on with us.
Chris Canty
All right, that's it.
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Oh, that's gonna get me in trouble. I'll tell you this, though, one last point on Eli on the way out the door. You can't have a problem with Eli or Coughlin if you're the same people who were trying out free medium soda day, okay? That would have never happened under Eli Manning. That would have never happened under Tom Coughlin. I love you fellas. Good luck to everyone out there with the Super Bowl. Catch you soon.
Don La Greca
See you.
Peter Rosenberg
Fantastic stuff there. I love the McDuffie one. I might actually play. Play that. It's a great point by him. 800-919-3776. We'll get back to your calls. The NBA trade deadline is officially over and we'll talk about some of the the way. Now the landscape has shifted a little bit in the NBA. Pete Alonzo with the Mets. That roster is now complete. And of course, your super bowl bet. Your super bowl conversation in South Palantonio later on in the show. Before we get to all that, though, Peter, you got FanDuel for me.
Chris Canty
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Alan Hahn
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Peter Rosenberg
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Alan Hahn
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Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 1: Alonso Returns
Release Date: February 6, 2025
Timestamp: [00:23] – [04:31]
In the opening segment, Peter Rosenberg kicks off the discussion by analyzing the recent NBA trade deadline. He remarks on the lack of significant moves, emphasizing that while there was a "little flurry today," major headlines remained elusive.
Peter Rosenberg: "The NBA trade deadline is up... no splash in New York when it comes to the trade deadline." ([00:23])
The conversation highlights the Knicks' minor trade, where Jericho Sims was moved to Milwaukee in exchange for Delon Wright. Rosenberg critiques the overall activity, suggesting that many moves were merely "moving furniture" without substantial impact.
Peter Rosenberg: "No splash in New York when it comes to the trade deadline." ([00:23])
Alan Hahn and Chris Canty further discuss the implications of these trades, pondering whether the Knicks are satisfied with their current roster or lacking confidence in key players like Mitch Robinson. Don La Greca introduces the critical question often asked during trade deadlines: whether the team missed out on pivotal acquisitions.
Don La Greca: "Is there really no killing them?" ([02:00])
Timestamp: [04:31] – [12:08]
The discussion seamlessly transitions to baseball, focusing on Pete Alonso's renewed contract with the New York Mets. Rosenberg shares optimistic views on Alonso securing a two-year deal worth $30 million in the first year with an opt-out clause.
Peter Rosenberg: "His days as a Met are over. Well, apparently not." ([04:23])
Don La Greca applauds the deal, noting the positive reception from Mets fans who prioritize player performance over financial intricacies. He draws parallels to how fans appreciate Alonso's contributions, likening them to Saquon's impact on his team.
Don La Greca: "This is not a cap sport... All they're thinking about is love this guy, hit a huge home run for us." ([06:07])
Timestamp: [12:08] – [24:16]
The hosts delve deeper into the Mets' lineup, discussing the optimal batting order and the strategic placement of players like Lindor, Soto, Alonso, Vientos, and Nimmo. They analyze the balance between on-base percentage and slugging, emphasizing Soto's versatility compared to Alonso.
Peter Rosenberg: "Juan Soto just brings you way more than Pete Alonso does." ([22:53])
A caller, A.J. from Queens, shares his perspective on the Mets' batting order, suggesting a preference for Vientos to bat third due to his postseason performance.
Caller A.J.: "Vientos start. Because he's...he just gets on base." ([17:13])
Chris Canty introduces a comparative analysis between Pete Alonso and Juan Soto, debating the Mets' decision to prioritize Alonso in contracts despite Soto's superior home run statistics.
Chris Canty: "They're literally paying a guy who's not that great defensively, who hits seven more home runs, double the 27 million." ([20:55])
Don La Greca challenges this viewpoint, arguing that Soto's overall contribution extends beyond home runs, including his on-base skills and batting average.
Don La Greca: "He has decided to pigeonhole his argument on the home runs." ([22:53])
Timestamp: [24:16] – [36:35]
Listeners contribute their thoughts, debating the merits of the Mets' roster decisions and the potential future of players like Alonso and Soto. Discussions revolve around lineup optimization, player roles, and the strategic direction of the team.
Caller Matt: "I think the Mets fumbled. They could have got him for five." ([21:33])
The hosts engage in vibrant debates, comparing Alonso's and Soto's impacts, and assessing the long-term benefits for the Mets' organization. They explore scenarios where Alonso could opt out after stellar performances, providing the Mets flexibility in future contracts.
Don La Greca: "If he ends up having a monster year and opts in for next year, you know what it looks like." ([15:44])
Timestamp: [36:35] – [49:26]
Shifting focus to the NFL, the hosts and guest Joe Fortenbaugh discuss upcoming Super Bowl 59, exploring various betting strategies and prop bets. They analyze player performances, defensive matchups, and potential MVP candidates.
Ad (Joe Fortenbaugh): "Jalen Hurts to lead the first quarter in rushing." ([41:36])
The conversation includes humor and camaraderie, with anecdotes about past broadcasts and live events. They emphasize engaging with the audience through live calls and promoting their upcoming live show at the Tap Room in Rockville Center.
Timestamp: [49:26] – [51:00]
As the episode wraps up, the hosts encourage listeners to subscribe and participate in live events, maintaining their signature blend of sports analysis and personable banter.
Peter Rosenberg: "The NBA trade deadline is officially over and we'll talk about some of the way." ([49:03])
Peter Rosenberg: "The NBA trade deadline is up... no splash in New York when it comes to the trade deadline." ([00:23])
Don La Greca: "This is not a cap sport... All they're thinking about is love this guy, hit a huge home run for us." ([06:07])
Chris Canty: "They're literally paying a guy who's not that great defensively, who hits seven more home runs, double the 27 million." ([20:55])
Don La Greca: "He has decided to pigeonhole his argument on the home runs." ([22:53])
Ad (Joe Fortenbaugh): "Jalen Hurts to lead the first quarter in rushing." ([41:36])
Conclusion
In this episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg, the hosts provide comprehensive insights into the NBA trade deadline, the strategic moves within the Mets' roster, and the implications of Pete Alonso's return. The lively discussions, enriched by listener calls and expert opinions, offer a multifaceted view of current sports narratives. Whether analyzing player contracts or forecasting Super Bowl outcomes, the trio ensures that listeners are well-informed and entertained.
Stay tuned for more engaging discussions in future episodes!