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Wearing it on repeat.
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Shop Abercrombie denim in the app, online and in store. Don. I was fighting with obesity.
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I wore.
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You're losing, Don.
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Don.
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Peter.
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Thank you, Alan.
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I hope you make the team.
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And Rosenberg, Richard, have you ever heard of brazzers?
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No, this isn't North Dakota. This is New York. This is Don han at Rosenberg on 8 80, ESPN and the ESPN New York app.
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Oh, baby. Welcome board. It is a Don Hahn and Rosenberg Rosenberg Hahn Bullpen Coyote vehicle today. And you know what they say, there's no better bullpen Coyote show than one after both baseball teams have a day off and then bounce back by putting numbers on the board. And that's exactly what we have today. Except I've got news for you. I've been told that my co host and friend Alan Hahn may not be excited about one of those wins. And in fact, I hear he may have been called out indirectly by the voice of the New York Yankees, Michael K. Yeah, that's what I'm hearing. That's what it sounds like. Alan Han. I sound like the case not. Please.
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I feel like I got a talking to today. Like, indirectly. I really did. Like, it's funny because I put. Look, I just tweeted something. I gotta read us the tweet. Can we get. Yeah, yeah. Let me just say something, though. I'm getting closer and closer to just either deleting my Twitter completely.
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Oh, yeah.
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Or just using it only as a promotional vehicle and not bothering anymore to just offer up a thought or, you know, just sometimes as either a fan or somebody that, you know in the know, in media, like, you just want to have an observation. You just want to say something. It's just amazing how visceral people are with their responses. And so all I said was something very simple this morning because that. I will say that that was fun to watch. Just selfishly.
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Right?
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It was so much fun. I mean, sure. You get to enjoy bomb after bomb. It was, you know. Yeah. Bombs over Baghdad. Like, it was so much fun to just watch them just smoke the baseball out of their own stadium. Like, it was just funny.
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Good times.
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It's like the varsity was just beaten up on the jv. Right? Just whatever it was, it was fun to watch.
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But what did you say?
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And I enjoyed it. Okay, I want to make that clear because everybody.
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All right, caveat boy. But give me what you said.
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Stop. I have to caveat. But the thing is, you know, I'm not the type of person that likes to wallow in misery.
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I get it. So the people online who read your tweet, they didn't get the caveat. I want to know what they got. What was the uncut dope?
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The uncut dope was simply this. Home runs are fun. No question. It's fun to bludgeon bad pitching. But is it sustainable as a primary strategy in October against the best teams and most likely the best pitching? That's all I said.
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Sounds very reasonable.
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And it's. It was a question, not a statement even. And, man, the response. While the majority of the responses, which I also found interesting was the majority of the responses were in agreement, it was 101 replies to this thing. And I'm gonna say probably 50. All had that same feeling of that, yeah, it's inevitable. We see it every year. Blah, blah, blah. There were a lot of like, it felt like Yankee bot responses that were defending the Yankee strategy and saying things along the lines of, well, you know, teams that hit the most home runs usually are the teams that reach the World Series. To which I of course say is they have the most home runs because they played the most games, but never mind, there was just a lot of that defending the strategy. I'm thinking to myself, what are we doing? Like, a lot of people don't like the way the Yankees play, though. They know that this home run thing, it's fun. It's like the Celtics shooting threes. And the Celtic fans will tell you they hate it, but they love it when they make 60 in a game, right? They love it when they hit them. Yes, it's fun, but you always know come playoff time is not sustainable.
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And.
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And the Celtic fans will tell you that their strategy over the last couple of years, while it's gotten them to two finals and won a championship. Yes, but it is tough a lot of times to buy into. Until they won that championship last year, I'm convinced.
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So that's nothing the Yankees can do that will have you satisfied or have you enjoying them as a fan, pretty miserable way to watch a team you claim to love. Yet when it comes to the Knicks.
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You'Re the complete opposite, which I laughed at that I Had. See, I don't like to respond, but I responded to that. Because of the Nick part.
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Yeah.
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Because if you followed me from 2014 to 2019, you would have seen that I had. I had a lot of problems with the way they played. A lot of problems. And I explained that I had a lot of problems with some of the moves they made. And I. And I said it. There were things that I didn't like about it, and I made that clear. But anyways, that's a side note because everybody uses that with me.
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Like, I see the back and forth. Some people are more reasonable and some agree with you. Some people say stuff like, I watch sports for fun. Nine homers is fun. Let's see if we can keep this going for two months. Okay, that's fine.
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And that's fine. You're right. We should. You're absolutely right. The fun stuff, I agree. That was fun. Last I sat back and we enjoyed. My son had the. We had the Mets. We were flipping back and forth. My son was having a great time watching the Mets. Then the rain delay ended and we watched the Yankees and we both had a good night. Right. It was awesome. So I'm thinking now, all right, I just made a point. But we've been talking about this for a while. I've told everybody I have not liked the way this team has played. I do note that they are playing a little more on the base path lately. They are trying to steal bases more and be athletic. I have taken note of that. But we all know their primary focus is to hit a lot of home runs and bludgeon you. And they can do that to bad pitching. We saw it last night and it's great. It was fun. But I just felt like saying it because they've twice now this season hit nine home runs in a game.
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Insane.
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And from 1876 to 2024. Peter, do you know how many teams have hit nine or more home runs in a game in that span of time? 1876-2024. Just. Can you count how. How many teams have done what the Yankees have done twice this season?
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Nine home runs in a game?
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Yeah.
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Seven times. Six and one two. Wow.
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So the Yankees have matched what happened from 1876 to 2024. That shows how rare it was until this season. So it's just an amazing thing to watch. So I'm all right. We move on. Because you just make a statement, you move on. We just keep it moving. The Yankees have to win tonight. Just keep it rolling and then get into that red Sox series I'm dying to sink my teeth into. So I'm on the train. I put on the case show and I'm listening. You know, I love teammate.
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You are, by the way. You want to fire it up?
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What do you mean? I got the case, I got the apple. We got to get the app going. Right?
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Of course.
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And you always want to hear, especially when it's. Especially with the Yankee talk. Because I thought the big story is judging Boone, which we'll get to momentarily. Like, I'm like, I can't wait to hear what Michael's got about this. But instead, as he opens the show, I swear, I'm like, is, is he talking to me?
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Listen, you know, people will say it's not a good recipe for the postseason when you rely on home runs. And I will say that there's some validity to that statement, but there's also some misinformation on that statement. See if you follow me. So I was reading a couple of social media posts where they go, you know, against the better pitching in baseball. It's much more prudent to string together three or four hits to get a run than to wait on a home run. And that's really not that easy to do because you're facing the best pitching in the game. You assume in the postseason. Right. The best pitchers in the game when they're on, don't make that many mistakes where they'll give up three or four hits in a row. So although home runs in total might be down in the postseason, so are hits the down in the postseason. And if you look at the percentage of runs that are scored during the regular season via the home run, it's higher in the postseason. So the thought process that the analytics people put into, it's hard to string together hits in the regular season. That's why you wait on a pitcher to make maybe one mistake and you hit it out. They double down on that in the postseason. Because if you're facing a top flight pitcher in the postseason, you think he's going to make four or five mistakes in an inning to give up like three singles and a couple of doubles? No, that might be as difficult as getting a home run.
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That sounded eerily similar to some of the replies I had. So did I get, did I get scolded? Would you say that? Did he scold me directly, you think?
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I can't be sure.
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No.
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He saw your tweet.
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Well, I can't either, but maybe he saw this one. So there was a retweet and a Quote, tweet of that tweet that I put out by a Randy Wilkins. Do you remember that name? Randy.
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Randy Wilkins.
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Yes. You guys had him on the show.
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We did.
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He's the director of the captain. The 30 for 30.
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Oh, yeah, of course.
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The great Randy Wilkins. So he said, if you don't slug in the playoffs, you're going home. If you don't hit homers in the playoffs, you're going home. The Dodgers won last year mainly because one guy went on a home run tear in the World Series. I don't understand why or how people still don't get this. Now, that sounds like he's also admonishing me with the idea that you're supposed to hit home runs. Right. And the fact that all you really need is one guy to get hot like Freddie Freeman did, and, you know, it's lights out. Which is all accurate. It's all true. So if Michael didn't see my tweet, did you maybe see that one? And then was curious about, well, what does he say? And then saw that it was me. And, you know, because he's a pro and he's also a classy guy, he's not going to call me out because I'm a teammate. But I wouldn't mind it if he had just said, you know, Alan tweeted this and he's out of his mind.
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But that's why. That's what. That's what makes me think it's not you.
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Yeah.
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Is that I feel like he would. Like, he knows that's good radio. Why would he not say it?
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Okay.
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Unless he fears you.
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At this point, I highly doubt that.
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He thinks we're wielding a lot of power.
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We are very, very friendly. So I would not think that that exists at all. But he also maybe didn't want to call me out because it feels bad. Like, I don't want to have to roll up the newspaper and bat him down and tell him, just stick to basketball, you fool.
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Oh, no.
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Wouldn't that be hurtful? Yeah, it wouldn't be hurt.
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Wouldn't that be hurtful, though?
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No, people have said worse. It's amazing, though, when you're in this business and you have a specialty like I do, you're not allowed to. To comment on anything else unless it's just agreeable or pom pom stuff. Like, if I just have to say how great the Yankee game was so much fun last night. If I just tweeted that. Right. No negative response. You'd only get, like, the fans who would Say things like, it's not sustainable. Like, they do that. Let them do it. So I think that's what I want to do. I think I'm going to delete everything and just say things that are just, like, very obvious stuff. You know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna have that approach. You know, there was a lot of home runs last night. I was watching, saying, boy, that's a lot of home runs, and that's it. And then let people wait.
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Are you saying you're all of a sudden to start tweeting? You're gonna sound like Paul o' Neill but in tweet form?
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You know what I mean? Just.
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Just say positive, good evening at the ballpark. Hit a few dingers. Me, Pauly.
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Oh, all right. But in the end, though, that's where I am there right now, as. As somebody watching this team. It's almost like I enjoyed last night, but I still keep saying, but October, and it just worries me. That's my concern. But October, you know, they're. They do what they're supposed to do. Last night, they were supposed to do in St. Louis. They do what they're supposed to do against. Against the Twins, for the most part. They're gonna. They're gonna face bad teams even after this Red Sox series, Right? But October, I just keep doing it. And maybe I'm the one that has a problem right now because it's been so long, because last year ended with such dismay. Went into that series against the Dodgers thinking they can win a World Series, they could beat this team, and then watch them just embarrass, you know, piddle all over themselves in the field. And Freddie Freeman caught fire and made dumb decisions like Nestor Cortez. I mean, lost in the game last night was. Jazz was a disaster in the field. Disaster. But he got away with it.
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You can do that.
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Rodon pitched well, but he also let the world know. My God, it's just. You know, just so you know, it's really hot here. He was just dripping with sweat, which he does. That's okay. And he was laboring, but he battled. And I. Again, I tip my cap. He's 13 wins. He's had a. He's had a solid year, really good year, an all star. But I keep coming back to that, Peter, and I'm just wondering, is that a me problem more than it is a Yankee problem? I just keep coming back to, this is good. But October comes, and when October comes, this is all going away.
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Listen, you're not in the wrong. Here's why you can't be in the wrong because the evidence sides with you. To me, the onus is on other people to prove to me how you're not right. What evidence do they have that it does work? That last year they somehow found a way to get to the World Series and then drop the ball? That doesn't. Alan. That doesn't remove what has generally been their issue in the playoffs now, going back close to a decade. That's what their M.O. has been. Home runs until the postseason. And then things get very, very tricky.
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Yeah, it's. Well, it's been 15 years of it. Right?
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You're going all the way back to the last championship.
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Well, think about it. It's the last time they reached the World Series up until last year, and the home run did. Did get them out of the Cleveland Series, getting to a bullpen that gave him up. Right. And then when they got to playing the Dodgers, it was. They. They couldn't. They could barely. They really couldn't compete. And it's. It just feels like the same thing. The bats go real quiet when they face good pitching or strategy. And then I feel like what got it for me was when teams like the Astros proved they had their number the second time around, saying, well, we didn't cheat this time. We still got you. And when the Dodgers and a lot of their people started sort of mocking the idea we know exactly how to beat them, like, it felt like the Mets gave the Dodgers a tougher. A tougher road than the Yankees did. Oh, yes. And it's like, those are the things that kind of like, I can't let go of that. And so when they started playing the way they played in mid June, that's when the alarm bells went off in my head and I became the, you know, the wackadoodle with, you know, the aluminum foil hat, like, warning people at the end is near. And they're like, what are you talking about? The 10 games up. You're out of your mind. You crazy, man. And then six weeks later, am I so crazy? You know, so it's. I think I've become that lunatic that just feels like the end is near.
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Now, maybe you're just a lunatic we're looking for, but last year.
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Nicely done, Billy.
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I think I got this right. In the playoffs, Yankees played 14 games. That sound right? Is that too many? That sounds right, right?
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Feels like too many.
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No, I see 22 home runs in 14 games.
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Okay, well, then they must have in 20, 22. Oh, yeah. Division, right? No, no division. LCS and then. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Five in the World Series in. In 2022, nine games, 12 home runs. Did not have, you know, led them in home runs in the 2020. I will give you crispy $5 bill the next time I see you if you tell me who led the Yankees in playoff home runs in 2022.
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2022.
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Yeah. Anthony, do you know, by any chance, was it bader?
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Wow. It was bader.
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It was bader. Yeah. Look at that.
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He had a great postseason. Darth Vader, you know what?
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Five and Judge had two and two and nine games. Not going to do it.
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No, it's not going to. Not going to get it done. Well, I think this is what, just a side story, the real story that I was looking for when I was listening to Michael and he got to it. But the real story to me is what's going on now between the Aarons, Judge and Boone. Because when we last spoke, Boone was the one who would publicly said he didn't expect that Judge would be able to throw like he normally can throw for the rest of the season. And I, like, I didn't even feel like that was news. Like, yeah, of course. Can't expect it. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even play in the field. And well, of course, that got back to Judge, and Judge didn't like it at all. And then Judge is saying, you know, he hasn't seen me throw. I don't know why he would say that. Like, it got real dicey. And I gotta be honest, I don't think this is a Boone issue. I would expect Judge to say that because he's the leader, he's the captain. He doesn't want everybody to know, hey, I'm not at 100%, especially the opponents, because now when I'm out in the field, if you say I can't throw like I normally can throw, they're gonna run on me like you're giving away a strategy. So for Judge to kind of put up a defense with the media. I don't know why you'd say that. Right. He hasn't even seen me throw. I'll be fine. I expect that from him. For him to do that, though, and make Boone look bad, I don't like that look at all.
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And I would hope unusual.
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No, you're right, it is. I would hope privately Judge and Boone would have it out and that Judge would then tell. But like, yeah, I handled that wrong because I think Judge handled it poorly. I think he didn't like it and it bothered him. And that's why he kind of snapped a little bit. With the response that he gave the media, it made for a great story. And he should also know that, too. The minute you say this thing, it's going to turn into a story. He could have made a joke about it, whatever. But I think I would expect that from an athlete. I would expect Judge to say, I'll be fine, because that's what great players do. How you feel? I'm fine. How's your arm feel? I'm fine. Everything's fine. I'm good. I'm ready to go. I'm 100%, you know, like all that kind of stuff because you don't want to give away any weaknesses. You don't want to tell the other team, especially when you play in the playoffs. All right, they hit it out. The Judge, you know, sacrifice fly run on him because he can't throw. His arm's not strong. He'll be afraid to throw it out. Right. Because he had the, you know, the flexor strain. You don't want to give that kind of information away. So you're going to protect it. You should. And that's what Judge is trying to say here. But him throwing his manager under the bus, that's a bad look. And I hope that he would reconcile that privately, because you could say, wow, Boone really screwed up here. I disagree. I think Boone was being honest because as a manager, it's like, I don't know. This is what they're telling me. And Judge should know that what Boone is saying was information that was delivered to him now should have. Should Boone have made that public? Probably not. Because Judge saying what he said is. I think, Peter, him not wanting to give away any secrets to opponents, especially come October about whether or not he'll be near 100% in his ability to throw the ball from the outfield here.
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Let's hear. Let's hear the Boone. If you haven't heard yet, this is Boone on talking Yank, saying Judge has not yet thrown to bases. He hasn't.
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He's just done some long tosses. I think he's out to 150 right now. So, you know, hopefully here in the next couple days, and then we'll see.
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On here he is saying this is about Judge possibly throwing the season.
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You know, he'll probably have to play.
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A little bit with the governor on.
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It and, you know, but we're not gonna put him out there until we feel like he's, you know, can go out there safely and do it right. See what I mean? The governor on it. Now, I could see both sides of this, Peter. Judge doesn't want the world to know there might be a little bit of limitation on me. I might be holding back. I get this. But he doesn't want anybody to know that. He wants every. He wants to say, no, I'm fine. I'm fine. That's what, that's what these guys do. I'm fine. But Boone is just being honest. Maybe too honest, but he's being honest. So who's right, who's wrong?
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But the weird thing is the odd part, the reason this stands out and there's like, at least some level of news to this. And listen, maybe you're concerned about if you're a Yankee fan, Maybe you're not. 1-800-919-3776 we'll talk to you guys next. But them not being on the same page is unusual. That lack of communication to me is what makes me go, really, I agree now.
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And you know, they're always in lockstep when it comes to messaging, right?
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Always.
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More than any other franchise, the Yankee, Yankees and the Knicks are two teams. Their messaging is like, they have to talk it out before they meet with the media.
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And particularly Judge and Boone. Yes, Judge, that's judgy and Boonie to you and me.
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But that's why I didn't like it from Judge. Like, I didn't like that. I would have, again, if I knew him personally, I would have said to him, that wasn't a good look, man.
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But what if, what if. Let me play the other side here. What if it was really, like, so far off that he was just, like, sincerely shocked that Boone was that off informationally? Like, wait, have you really not been paying attention? Like, is there a world in which Boone was just dead wrong? Or no chance?
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No chance.
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The only thing is that he didn't help Judge cover up the way Judge wanted to cover up.
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I think it's more that I think Boone was given information from the medical team, and so he relayed it, which he probably shouldn't have, and Judge didn't like it. Judge didn't want that out there. Well, don't tell people that. I might not be able to be 100% with my arm now they're going to run on me. They're going to run on me. You know what I mean? Like, do you understand what I'm saying? That's the thing I think that got to Judge the most is why are you. Why are you telling people I'm not gonna be 100%.
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And then he said, and also, he said, also, I believe Judge has a pretty bad bout of diarrhea right now. It just starts revealing too many, too many secrets. Judge is like, mom, that's bizarre.
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But all right.
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It's like when your mom comes up to you and you're in the changing room, you're a kid and she's checking out your pants because a lot of extra room in the crotch.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Was that the Wonder Years?
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Yeah, I think so.
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That was, that was a wonder year scene. That was hilarious. There's plenty of room in the crotch, Mom. All right.
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1-800-919-3776. Yankees on the table. Got to talk about the Mets putting up a nice win as well. But again, you can call Allen a sort of rain on your parade guy if you want. Hard to get too hyped up after one good night of baseball.
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Did what they were supposed to do. That's all. But that's, that's.
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It's certainly worth having a smile on your face. Also, four o' clock and get back into the quarterbacks tables.
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Yeah.
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Because Allen is yet to weigh in. 4:30. He's got the list of a lifetime like you dream about. You never heard of a list like this, so we're looking forward to that as well. It's Peter Rosenberg. It's Alan Hahn. It's DHR on ESPN New York. You want to get the most for your money. That's why more Mazda buyers choose Ramsey Mazda for selection, customer service and savings during the Mazda More to move you sales event, lease a new 25 Mazda CX30 for 239 for 33 months. Start shopping now at Ramsey Mazda dot com. Choose wisely. Choose Ramsey Mazda. Call 833-853-2970 for details. Bin SM 842601 MSRP26880 0. Security deposit ends 9225. This is an ad by BetterHelp. These days it feels like there's a vice for everything. Cold plunges, gratitude, journal screen detoxes. But how do you know what actually works for you? With the Internet and information overload about mental health and wellness, it can be a struggle to know what's true and what actions to take. These days, using trusted resources and talking to live therapists can get you personalized recommendations and help to help you break through the noise. With over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, Having served over 5 million people globally and at work works with an App store rating of 4.9 out of 5 based on over 1.7 million client reviews. As the largest online therapy provider in the world, BetterHelp can provide access to mental health professionals with a diverse variety of expertise. Talk it out with BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month@betterhelp.com timeout. That's betterhelp.com timeout.
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A
Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.
B
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. All right.
B
Why? Why? Hold on.
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Yeah, I need to know.
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It's don. Hana Rosenberg, CSPN, New York. It's Wednesday, August, August 20th. Okay. Why.
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So it's a. With Alan doing the list today, he's choosing his top five song over the last. No, no, no. Top five summer songs. I'm not choosing them. The research that I did, like, I actually put time in this morning on this list. Now curating this, because this is normally a Don Lagreca vehicle. That's all right. And so if I'm going to take this over for a week, I have to give it the proper effort. And so I. I crunched the numbers to come up with the top five songs of the summer from this current century, from this past quarter century. So you can't do all time because, like, we'd be here all day. Like, it's just, it's too much. And I couldn't pick my favorites because every song would be from the 80s and 90s. We all know that. Right. So I instead thought, let's be more current and let's remember some songs. And we're like, oh, my God, that was the. And trust me, there are a few. You're going to go, really? But the numbers according to Billboard tell you. Yes. So according to Billboard. Yeah. I went to. I'm doing yours. Yep. Not technically mine, but I'm doing the 25 years prior to the 25 years you chose. Oh, nice. So right now, 1984, When Doves Cry was the number one song of that summer. Yes.
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Of the summer.
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Yes. Such a good song. Other songs on that list. Ghostbusters by Ray Parker. Oh, my God. Awful. What's Love Got to Do with it by Tina. Tina. Great song. Dancing in the Dark. Bruce Springsteen. Yeah. Stuck on you. Lionel Richie.
B
Wow.
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The Pointer Sisters. Jump for My Love. Come on, man. Reflex. Duran. Duran. Duran. Like this. Think about this. That alone is a great list by itself. I mean, one summer What? Who are you taking out?
B
It's a good list. I've things I can live without there, but it's a good list. You really jumped all over Ghostbusters though.
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That's the one I'm taking out. Terrible song. It's a good movie. Bad song.
B
It's a pretty. Well, I guess when you really think about it, when there's something strange in the neighborhood, who are you going to call? Yeah, I guess you're. It's not great.
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Yeah.
B
Then the callback rate that when. When doves cry. Isn't it crazy? There's. There's no bass in the song.
A
There's no bass guitar.
B
No, really. Let's do it again.
A
Play.
B
Play the top, Jacob.
A
Well, is it. Is it because the. The keyboard is doing the bass.
B
It's just the way he did it. But if you listen to it in a system with bass, you're like, oh, wow, there's no bass here.
A
I didn't notice that.
B
And yeah, maybe he just like the drums are. Are doing. Giving you.
A
Yeah. The percussion. Right. Is that all this? I did not notice that. Oh, that just learned something.
B
That Prince. Pretty talented.
A
Pretty. Pretty good. Pretty.
B
All right, so we're talking about your New York junkies. Alan Hahn, you know, enjoyed seeing the home runs last night, but it didn't send him into a frenzy. It should. We're also looking at the Aaron Judge Aaron Boone miscommunication. If it. As it were. 1-800-9193776, why not start things off on a Wednesday with good old Griffin in Connecticut?
D
Hey, guys.
F
Peter, how are you? Mr. Negative? How are you?
B
Oh, boy, oh boy.
F
You know what? Negative about the Yankees. You always are. And you can admit it or you. You don't want to admit it, but you always are negative. You'll find anything. You'll say, okay, was, all right. But is this sustainable in October? O love the way the Blue Jays play. You know, your. Your favorite new team, the Blue Jays just lost two out of three to Pittsburgh Pirates. So you talk about beating up on bad teams. Well, at least we're doing that. You have to do what you're supposed to do sometimes. And we lost earlier against bad teams to Miami and stuff, so why can't you ever just be positive? I could. I could. I'm not trying to be. I'm not trying to say analyzing your taxes up, but you have to admit you're always negative when it comes to the Yankees. And I have a question about last night's game. Do we just play tribute videos for whoever player. Jose Caballero is a phenomenal player. The race played a tribute video for him. Like, does every single person get a tribute video?
A
And then he. And then, of course, he hit. Proceeded to hit two home runs.
F
I know, but I just don't understand. Like, he's a great player, but does everybody get a tribute video at all?
B
Well, that's. That's where we are now.
A
Listen. He played 225 games for the race.
B
That's.
A
That's a lot of games. That's like. That's like. That's like almost.
B
That's like, almost two seasons, not even to season. That's a season and a half.
A
Do you listen? I. I get it. But him coming back, he had been traded from them. What do they got? There was. The whole building was filled with Yankee fans. So the trivia video thing, I don't care. I don't mind that I. But I really take umbrage with what Griffin said. I don't think I'm always negative. It all started in June. It all started in June. I did not like that series against the Red Sox at Fenway. It was terrible.
F
I know.
A
And I hated what it looked like. And I said, I don't like this, and I better not see it again. And then Griffin, for the next six weeks, we saw it. And that was. That's all I needed now, now. And I can't help it. I am in that world now of.
D
But October, when October comes, you can also turn into.
F
Maybe things could be turning around. You never know. Why can't you think of that?
A
Because how are they turning around? Because they're playing bad teams and beating them. I'll tell you what. I promise you, if they take three out of four against the Red Sox this weekend, Monday, I will have bells on. Don will be throwing up with just how giddy I am about the Yankees. If they take. Just don't sweep. If they get three out of four, I will. Monday, I promise you, I will start singing a different tune. Deal.
B
You know what?
A
That's reasonable, Griffin, because that's a series I think I need to see. You got to show me something here.
F
Yes.
A
Show me.
F
I under. I. I understand what you're saying. I'm just. I'm just somebody that believes if we can get on a winning track, it can build into that series. You change your momentum where you don't go into the ballpark every single day saying, when one thing goes bad, we're gonna lose. Here we are. We're gonna lose again.
A
That's that's, that's. That's.
F
That was their mindset that they were in all the time.
A
Yes, they were.
F
They are winning games that could change their mindset of if they fall behind to nothing. They're not like, oh, we lost again.
A
I hope so.
F
You never know.
A
I. You're absolutely right, and I hope so. And you're looking around the league and everybody goes through slumps and everybody has looked bad. The Astros have had. Look, they have not played well lately. The Red Sox have not played well lately. Blue Jays, like you're seeing, the teams that were hot for a while now are not. So what you want for the Yankees and the schedule is giving them the opportunity to do it is to get on a roll, get hot going into the playoffs. And that's what Griffin is saying is 100% accurate. Because this, this soft schedule, it could be fool's gold or it could be exactly the confidence boost the team needs to a point now that when they get in the playoffs, the belief is just there. And you can ride that sometimes, especially in parody that we've seen in this sport. There's a lot of teams that are pretty much. They all are flawed in their different ways, and all you got to do is get hot at the right time. So I do buy into that. I do believe it. But I just was going through something these last couple of weeks where I watched the team and I just said, this is unserious. This is an unserious franchise. And it bothered me.
B
There's nothing. There's no worse in indictment, by the way, than lack of seriousness.
A
Well, but you know what else too, though, Peter? Just think about it. It's not just me.
B
No.
A
Joe Torrey said something recently. Joe Girardi, Derek Jeter. If you don't believe me, how about those guys? They're gods in that organization. They all have rings. Maybe. Like, if you don't believe me, Paul o' Neill has hinted to things on the broadcast. It's enough for me to say, all right, well, they're saying it. So it can't just be me, right? It can't just be me. David Cohn. So it's not like I'm saying this in a vacuum as some lunatic on the street corner holding up a sign saying the end is near. Others are seeing it too, and didn't like it. So let's see if it does turn. We can only hope.
B
Let's keep this conversation going and go to good old Jonathan in la. What's up, Jonathan?
A
Hi, guys.
B
There he is.
A
Oh, Peter.
D
Didn't put you in your place right there, Alan. So. So regarding the Yankees, man, I mean, what would have happened if they would have gotten swept by the Cardinals or they would have lost yesterday, too? I mean, would you still feel. It's horrible. I. I look at it like, yes, they did what they're supposed to do, and that's pretty cool that they hit nine home runs. Okay, now keep it going. And just like you said right now, we gonna see right now a good test. Four games in New York versus Boston versus a good team. All right? The thing is that we can't be. Oh, no, but let's wait till October. It's like saying. I'm not trying to get dark here. It's like saying, why eat healthy if I'm still going to die eventually? I mean, no, you gotta. You know what? They won. Let's keep it going. Let's keep it going and let's keep. Look, remember, Fernando Cruz is going to come. The bullpen is going to even more.
A
Is Fernando Cruz, is he the savior?
D
I'm not saying it's the same. Let me finish. It's just a matter of who gets in October hot. Everyone has flawed. The Dodgers have flawed. Look at the Astros, 28 scoreless innings. All right. Yes, Everyone is kind of bad. All right, let's just keep it going. Hopefully they get in October hot and we'll go from there. And no, Fernando Cruz is not the savior. Other than that. Great show, fellas. And over the quick. Peter, have you gotten a team for little Maya? Is she a Yankee fan? Is she a Mets fan? Because I know she's the Knicks fan, man. Chris. As always, fellas, thank you.
B
Thanks, Jonathan. Well, you know, Natalie made me buy her when I did the event at Lids. She had. She had me get her the customized Mets and Yankees hat because my wife is a very proud baseball fraud. So I.
A
You know the rule. You know the rule. Don set this standard and he's right.
B
She has till she's eight.
A
She has till she's eight. Then she has to answer the question so she has time. Let her decide. Her influences will be whatever happens around her, not what you do. Trust me, my parents tried to make me right.
B
It's not fans of their teams.
A
It didn't work. So it. Just let it happen organically. Leave it up to her.
B
I can't tell Natalie.
A
If.
B
Natalie, if you have to choose in a second, Mets or Yankees, you just had to say, well, what do you say? You just say Mets.
A
Okay, she does.
B
Mets does come out first. Okay.
A
Because she's from Queens. Queens threw up my mouth.
B
I will not say what she then said afterwards, but she implied in no uncertain terms, though, that she found the Mets, the Yankees players, very attractive when she was in high school. I won't even tell you guys privately how she indicated that, because I think you have to know my wife so well to know her sense of humor. That other. You may just be alarmed to the point of saying you might pull me aside. But she made clear why she liked the Yankees in high school.
A
Understood.
B
So, yeah, I think. I think we'll end up being a Mets household over here. I've always had a soft spot for the Mets. You can't. Yes, I'm a baseball fraud. I know it. I can hear Anthony's eyes rolling to the back of his head as we have this conversation. But you really can't grow up having your baseball. My biggest baseball influences as a kid were two things. My dad's very close friends and my family, the same ones who got me into the Celtics were all Red Sox fans. So you had lots of Red Sox. And then growing up, going to Memorial Stadium probably 50 times as a kid to see the Cal Ripken Orioles. You can't then sort of grow into a Yankee fan. That is like true fraudulent on an epic level.
A
That's fair.
B
Like to have sat at Orioles games where it's literally 90% Yankee fans and you're the loser. Cheering on Mike Bodicker as the. You know, and Randy Milligan.
A
You and Brady Anderson.
B
Oh, please. That you're mentioning one of the greats, one of the great juice jobs we've ever seen.
A
That great season. That great season. Did he go hit 50, right?
B
Oh, he did. He gave you 50, baby. Brady Anderson, who was double the size of Brady Anderson, put up a 50 spot. I mean, that's what we all focus on. The Bonds and the Sosa and McGuire's.
A
That's one of the greatest stories.
B
Yeah, you gotta look around at the people who are like, really good. Like, Palmero was really good. But then all of a sudden it's like, I don't. Did Palmero break 50 or was he just living in the high 40s?
A
He probably was living in the high 40s. But for Brady, you got to think.
B
Brady Anderson was a 25 home run guy.
A
Yeah, but think about it. For Brady Henderson, and he was smart one and done, in and out. Right. Did it and then quit it. I thought it's per. It's because that's. Then they'd all like, like they just go all that one year. Oh, there's one year. That's all. I just got hot.
B
But I do have to look at. I want to see this stat though, before I go to break. So Brady's rookie year was 88. His career ended in 02.
A
Okay.
B
In the years surrounding his 50.
A
Yeah.
B
In 1995, Brady Anderson hit 16 home runs.
A
Big year.
B
In 1996, Brady hit 50 home runs.
A
Right.
B
In 1997, he hit 18 home runs.
A
I told you.
B
It's so good.
A
He did it and quit it. Hide it, hide it. They're coming. Exactly, Exactly. I'm going to do it for one of you. Get the contract and I'm out.
B
Yeah. His high aft besides that year was he had a 24 and he had a 21. That's a nice 50 in there.
A
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I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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B
Yeah.
A
92. Yeah. Okay. I was in college, so how about this? So Connecticut, of course. Our Fairfield team is playing in the Little League World Series. Are playing Nevada, I guess. Is that. Is that the Midwest? What would they call that region? I can't. I can't read the jersey. Regardless, they are right now. Third inning, three one. Nevada. So come on, Connecticut. But what happened was Connecticut's at bat. Foul ball goes right Straight back to the backstop.
B
Okay.
A
Shatters an ESPN camera. Oh, it's an unbelievable shot. They've. They showed the replay several times. The ball literally bat straight back and you see it coming at the camera, and then all of a sudden, the camera lens cracks. So that's what you see. They showed it also from the outfield camera, and it's just devastating. I mean, we're talking about thousands of dollars now. Trashed off a foul ball. Unbelievable. I mean, what are the odds that little camera portal and the ball was going to find it. So just a little. They had to stop the game because there was glass all over the. That part of the warning track behind home plate. So they had to clean up the glass. And then they've restarted since. Restarted the game. So three, one, if anybody's wondering, Nevada over Connecticut. But it's still early. Top of the third inning, and Connecticut does have a runner on base. And so we'll see what happens. We'll keep an eye on it for you, though. Of course.
B
You know what? Thank you. Can you keep an eye on that for me?
A
Well, listen, it's Connecticut, it's Fairfields in our listener area.
B
Sure.
A
And we're pulling for the boys, see if they get. The winner goes to the US Championship.
B
Let's go to Pete in Staten island, who wants to talk to Alan Hahn about the New York Yankees.
D
Hey, boys. How are you?
A
Hey, Pete.
D
All right, Allen, you're a thousand percent correct. We have to be concerned. And just stay with me because there's two things that come with what you said. One, we can't live and die by the home run. Two, it's the problem with this whole launch angle. Yes. A guy like Judge, you could use a launch angle. Guy like Volpe should be swinging down on the ball. Look at Stanton. Changed his swing, his two home runs. Opposite field. The last time we lost to Houston, they had 11 hits. Nine went to the opposite field. If you live and die by the home run in the World Series, you will not win. Pitching always outweighs home run hitting. You are 1000% correct.
A
It is just like I said it is. It is something that looks like they're trying to change by being more athletic on the base pads. They are trying to steal more bases. Caballeros made a big difference. Obviously, Volpe's very good. Like, they've got, you know, jazz. They have more guys like, look, that team a couple of years ago. You remember that team like two, three years ago where they were all bodybuilders. Nobody could run it. Was embarrassing, but at least now they have a little more athleticism. But I wasn't all. The only point I was making was.
D
It was. It's another point I want to just go through. If you look at the old Yankees, right. Jeter swung down a room ball. Bernie Williams.
A
Oh, that team played different also. Yes.
D
But they also took strengths.
A
Yes. Thank you.
D
Listen.
B
Yes.
D
Look at the Dodgers. The Dodgers, they take strikes, they walk.
A
Yes.
D
That's what wins.
A
Games work. The pitchers get.
D
Home runs are great. Listen, me and my mother were watching the game. We were dying, laughing at 11:30 at night, watching home runs go out.
A
It was fun.
D
That's. That's not going to work in the World Series. It will get you there. So Pete doesn't work in the World Series.
A
We're around the same age, so we've watched a lot of it. You know, we. We've watched a lot of.
D
And I've posted for my whole life.
A
Yeah. And again, it's watching the Yankees over the generations and all that stuff. So we've seen a lot of this stuff. Right. So we understand it's. It's just become a point where it's like everybody wants us to lower the standard. And I'm like, I don't want to do that. Like I said, I don't want to do that.
D
100% correct. But again, go back to one triangle. You cannot hit with your bat out in front and hit the ball the other way. You have to stand tall and drive the ball the other way. Abc A to C to the ball. And you can even ask Alex Rodriguez, which, you know, he's one of the guys that talk about launch angle.
A
Yeah.
D
And how it really doesn't work either.
A
Yeah. I'm telling you.
D
And he was a pretty good hitter.
A
Yeah. It is. It is legitimately like just a change in attitude that I think the whole sport has gone through. But it also, to me, is something that the Yankees really do believe in it and they got to the World Series. That's their way of saying, see, it does work. But whatever. Hey, Peter, can I give you a game time?
B
Oh, if only. If it's brought to you by. Tyler, more Irish.
A
Tyler, more do. Irish whiskey.
B
What did I say?
A
Tell them more Irish. Which is to do, you know, but you need to do.
B
You need to do.
A
You got to do the do.
B
No, no, no. Different bread.
A
But also, you also do this because when it's game time. I like when he holds it. It certainly is. Well, the Mets continue their series with the national coverage immediately follows us at 605. That's right. Once again, no ENN. We are done at 6 and we lead you right into Met coverage here on 880. The Yankees, they face Tampa again at 7:35. We hope the weather holds up this time. There's a long delay yesterday, but it certainly led to a lot of home runs being rained on that field. Steinbrenner Field last night. Telemurdo, the original triple distilled, triple blended, triple cast matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tully Mordue or try the new Tullamore Dew Honey during today's action. Glasses up to enjoying Tillamore do responsibly.
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I like when he holds it. It's a crazy thing.
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It is one of the. Yeah, that's one I probably would like to see. Just.
B
You want to break? Yeah.
A
Go away.
B
Yeah.
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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg — Hour 1: “But October”
Date: August 20, 2025
Podcast: ESPN New York
This episode centers on the New York Yankees’ recent offensive explosion (notably their home run barrage), questioning whether a home-run-heavy strategy is sustainable come October playoff baseball. Amid the lightning rod of social media reaction and commentary from Michael Kay, the crew also discusses the Yankees’ internal dynamics and the Judge vs. Boone communication snafu, with digressions on fan psychology, notable baseball history, and classic “songs of the summer.”
Key Discussion Points
Home Run High: The Yankees crushed nine home runs in one game for the second time this season. Alan Hahn brings up a stat: since 1876, teams have only hit nine+ home runs in a game seven times… and the Yankees have done it twice this year alone.
[06:51]
“From 1876 to 2024… how many teams have hit nine or more home runs in a game? The Yankees have matched what happened from 1876 to 2024.” — Alan Hahn
Alan’s Tweet and Fan Backlash: Alan tweeted a question: is this home-run-reliant approach sustainable in October against great pitching? He shares that while some fans agreed, others (Yankee “bots”) staunchly defended the HR strategy.
[02:24]
“Home runs are fun. No question. It’s fun to bludgeon bad pitching. But is it sustainable as a primary strategy in October against the best teams and… pitching? That’s all I said.” — Alan Hahn
Comparison to Celtics: Analogy to Boston Celtics’ three-heavy offense; fun when shots drop, but can fizzle when pressure amps up. [03:40]
“It’s like the Celtics shooting threes... you always know come playoff time, it’s not sustainable.” — Alan Hahn
Key Discussion Points
Michael Kay’s Response: Michael Kay, without naming Alan, counters the popular narrative. Kay defends the home run approach, citing analytics that suggest stringing together singles is even harder vs. postseason ace pitchers, and that a higher percentage of playoff runs are scored via the home run.
[08:12]
“If you look at the percentage of runs that are scored during the regular season via the home run, it’s higher in the postseason… the analytics people put into it: it’s hard to string together hits in the regular season. That’s why you wait on a pitcher to make maybe one mistake and you hit it out.” — Michael Kay (audio played by hosts)
Did Kay Address Alan?: Debate over whether Kay’s comments were an indirect reply to Alan’s Twitter question or a general address to critics. Alan suspects Kay at least saw the conversation.
[09:29]
“That sounded eerily similar to some of the replies I had. So did I get, did I get scolded? Would you say that?” — Alan Hahn
Randy Wilkins Rebuttal: Alan cites documentary director Randy Wilkins, who tweeted,
[10:05]
“If you don’t slug in the playoffs, you’re going home. Dodgers won last year mainly because one guy went on a home run tear in the World Series ... why or how people still don’t get this?”
Social Media Fatigue: Alan ponders quitting Twitter, noting vitriolic overreactions to reasonable questions or concerns from media/fans.
[02:09]
“I’m getting closer and closer to just either deleting my Twitter completely... It’s just amazing how visceral people are with their responses.” — Alan Hahn
Key Discussion Points
Hahn’s Reluctance to Celebrate: Even after big wins, Alan emphasizes lingering doubts: beating bad teams is expected, not evidence the team’s flaws can be fixed by playoff time.
[06:49]
“They’ve twice now this season hit nine home runs in a game… but October, I just keep doing it. And maybe I’m the one that has a problem right now.” — Alan Hahn
Rosenberg Defends Skepticism: Peter Rosenberg supports Alan, arguing “history is on your side”—Yankees’ power-first approach hasn’t consistently translated to postseason success for over a decade.
[14:12]
“The evidence sides with you. To me, the onus is on other people to prove to me how you’re not right… That’s what their M.O. has been. Home runs until the postseason. And then things get very, very tricky.” — Peter Rosenberg
Alan’s Pledge: If Yankees take 3 of 4 from the Red Sox, Alan swears he’ll show enthusiasm on Monday’s show.
[35:02]
“If they take three out of four against the Red Sox this weekend, Monday I will have bells on… I will start singing a different tune.” — Alan Hahn
Listener Responses:
Griffin (Connecticut) calls Hahn “Mr. Negative”… Alan pushes back, tracing his concerns to a bad Red Sox series in June and explaining skepticism is warranted after repeated playoff flameouts.
[32:35]
“You always are negative… why can’t you ever just be positive?” — Griffin
“I really take umbrage with what Griffin said. I don’t think I’m always negative. It all started in June…” — Alan Hahn
Pete (Staten Island) fully agrees with Alan, criticizing launch angle obsession and emphasizing that championship Yankees teams worked counts, hit to all fields, and weren’t all-or-nothing power.
[47:00]
“We can’t live and die by the home run. It’s the problem with this whole launch angle… If you live and die by the home run in the World Series, you will not win. Pitching always outweighs home run hitting.” — Pete, caller
Key Discussion Points
Boone Reveals Judge’s Injury Limitations: Manager Aaron Boone told the media Judge may not throw with full strength all year—Judge did not appreciate the public comment, saying Boone hadn’t even seen him throw.
[18:20]
“That got back to Judge, and Judge didn’t like it at all… For him to do that though, and make Boone look bad, I don’t like that look at all.” — Alan Hahn
Both Sides’ Motives:
“I would hope privately Judge and Boone would have it out and that Judge would then tell [Boone]… I handled that wrong because I think Judge handled it poorly. …I would expect Judge to say, I’ll be fine. But Boone is just being honest.” — Alan Hahn
Rare Disunity?: Normally, Boone and Judge are perfectly aligned in messaging, so listeners and hosts agree it’s newsworthy when this breaks down.
[22:24]
“The weird thing is… them not being on the same page is unusual. That lack of communication to me is what makes me go — really?” — Peter Rosenberg
Notable Segments
Song of the Summer: Alan is prepping a Billboard-verified top-five “songs of the summer” of this century (segment begins [29:16]). Peter reminisces on 1984’s list; they banter about Ghostbusters (“terrible song”) and Prince trivia:
[31:22]
“Isn’t it crazy there’s no bass in the song [When Doves Cry]?” — Peter Rosenberg
“I did not notice that… Oh, just learned something.” — Alan Hahn
Little League World Series: Breaking news from Fairfield, CT game—a foul ball shatters an ESPN camera; comical relaying of in-game scenes.
[45:43]
“Shatters an ESPN camera… the camera lens cracks. So, they had to stop the game… glass all over the warning track.” — Alan Hahn
On Social Media Punditry:
[12:23]
“There was a lot of home runs last night. I was watching, saying, ‘boy, that’s a lot of home runs,’ and that’s it. And then let people wait.” — Alan Hahn
On Yankees’ Rotation of Hitting Philosophy:
[47:48]
“They are trying to steal more bases. Caballero’s made a big difference. Volpe’s very good… they’ve got more guys that can run. At least now they have a little more athleticism.” — Alan Hahn
Classic Yankees Power Outliers:
Discussing “juice ball” home run outbursts:
[43:05]
“In 1995, Brady Anderson hit 16 home runs. In 1996 he hit 50. In 1997, he hit 18.” — Peter Rosenberg
On home-run reliance vs. playoffs:
“Home runs are fun. No question. It’s fun to bludgeon bad pitching. But is it sustainable as a primary strategy in October against the best teams and most likely the best pitching? That’s all I said.”
— Alan Hahn [02:24]
On Michael Kay’s rebuttal:
“If you look at the percentage of runs that are scored during the regular season via the home run, it’s higher in the postseason… the best pitchers in the game when they’re on, don’t make that many mistakes where they’ll give up three or four hits in a row.”
— Michael Kay (audio) [08:12]
On postseason doubts:
“It just worries me... this is good, but October comes, and when October comes, this is all going away.”
— Alan Hahn [13:34]
On being fair but critical:
“You can call Alan a sort of rain on your parade guy if you want. Hard to get too hyped up after one good night of baseball.”
— Peter Rosenberg [24:10]
On launch angle and playoff hitting:
“We can’t live and die by the home run... if you live and die by the home run in the World Series, you will not win. Pitching always outweighs home run hitting. You are 1000% correct.”
— Pete, caller [47:00]
On social media and sports:
“I’m getting closer and closer to just either deleting my Twitter completely … It’s just amazing how visceral people are with their responses.”
— Alan Hahn [02:09]
On Yankees’ former teams:
“You remember that team like two, three years ago where they were all bodybuilders? Nobody could run. It was embarrassing.”
— Alan Hahn [48:00]
The episode threads a common tension familiar to New York sports fans: the collision of exuberance after a dominant win and the ever-present shadow of postseason history and disappointment. Alan Hahn stands by his caution, repeatedly stressing that “October baseball” is a different animal, and that the Yankees’ reliance on home runs, while spectacular now, gives him pause when imagining matchups against premier playoff pitching. Rosenberg validates Hahn’s skepticism, pointing to years of similar playoff letdowns, while callers split between “enjoy it now!” and deeper, old-school criticisms of the team’s offensive approach.
Michael Kay’s impassioned defense of the HR-analytics approach is dissected without malice, while Judge and Boone’s rare communication hiccup is explored as a sign of the immense internal pressure and ultra-tight playoff race.
As always, the show features sharp, knowledgeable banter, baseball history callbacks, and the kind of rapid cultural pivots—from musical trivia to Little League dramatics—that keep ESPN New York an engaging, authentic voice for the city’s sports scene.
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