Alan Hahn (1:02)

Like Jimmy Chitwood?

Peter Rosenberg (1:03)

No, no, sorry, I think that's a fictional character.

Don Hahn (1:06)

Hickory.

Alan Hahn (1:07)

I wish he wasn't.

Peter Rosenberg (1:08)

Was it Gordon Hayward?

Don Hahn (1:09)

It was Gord Hayward.

Peter Rosenberg (1:10)

Right.

Alan Hahn (1:10)

He was.

Peter Rosenberg (1:10)

He was the last stud. Like.

Alan Hahn (1:11)

Oh, they had. No, they had it. Yeah, they had it. That was a squad. That's when Brad Stevens was the head coach.

Don Hahn (1:17)

So what you're telling me is St. John's is playing Hickory tonight. I'll tell you what.

Alan Hahn (1:21)

I'll tell you what. Doesn't matter who they're playing. They better get a dub because.

Don Hahn (1:24)

No, it's not.

Alan Hahn (1:25)

This has not been the year you thought it was going to be. So far.

Don Hahn (1:27)

That was a tough loss to Providence. Speaking of tough losses, tough loss for the Knicks. We'll get to that in a second. I'm just saying somewhere, somewhere, somewhere over the Tibbs is sitting there going, you know, my record was better than the Knicks at this time last year.

Alan Hahn (1:45)

Do you know that he.

Peter Rosenberg (1:46)

But he didn't get the big title.

Alan Hahn (1:47)

You know, he was. He was on Twitter. Tim's just randomly went on Twitter and liked something that did. Like this sort of defense criticism, really.

Peter Rosenberg (1:58)

He did a player thing.

Alan Hahn (1:59)

He did a thing.

Peter Rosenberg (2:00)

Sounds like a player.

Alan Hahn (2:01)

Where it's like, no commenting, no nothing. But he did hit like.

Peter Rosenberg (2:04)

That is such a player move.

Don Hahn (2:06)

Well, a couple of things is that they're giving up like 130. Like it's nothing. Right?

Peter Rosenberg (2:13)

That's an issue.

Don Hahn (2:15)

And I And I think Allen was at LIU the last time. They only scored 90.

Alan Hahn (2:22)

Who's that?

Don Hahn (2:23)

The Knicks.

Alan Hahn (2:25)

They were scoring in the 80s, like 87s and stuff. Those games against the Heat in the mid to late 90s.

Don Hahn (2:32)

Well, where were you in the mid to late 90s?

Alan Hahn (2:34)

I was working at Newsday. Oh, dude, I'm old.

Don Hahn (2:36)

Captain Literal man.

Peter Rosenberg (2:38)

He didn't mean literally.

Don Hahn (2:39)

I should have went with dinosaurs. Walk the earth.

Alan Hahn (2:41)

I tried to be cute, let people.

Don Hahn (2:43)

Know that I knew where he went to school, you know, and now he's just got to correct me. Well, they scored 87 against the Heat. And on November 13, 1993.

Peter Rosenberg (2:51)

You don't remember Glenn Robinson, 17.

Alan Hahn (2:55)

I thought you said I saw something. No, because I just, I'm.

Don Hahn (3:00)

I think it's. I think it's actually like two years or something. That, that, that's the least amount of score.

Alan Hahn (3:05)

No doubt. And four. Four straight losses. They haven't done that in two years. So you will get.

Peter Rosenberg (3:12)

We'll get into it. I have theories and I have some frustrations too around the stats that Alan was sending the group chat earlier about teams who win the in season tournament.

Alan Hahn (3:20)

And I don't really send you stats. I sent you facts. It's different.

Don Hahn (3:24)

They're the same when there's only been two of them.

Alan Hahn (3:27)

Three.

Don Hahn (3:28)

Well, this is the third.

Alan Hahn (3:29)

It's. It's.

Don Hahn (3:29)

We'll see what it ends up being.

Alan Hahn (3:31)

This could be the end of the NBA Cup. Maddening.

Don Hahn (3:34)

Well, that's what I was going to say. The biggest loser in this whole thing is the NBA. Could be the NBA Cup. Now do I think it's going to go away? I think Adam Silver is. You know, you'd have to get rid of it. You pull it from his cold dead hands.

Alan Hahn (3:47)

Right.

Don Hahn (3:48)

But they'll have to change the schedule and all that stuff because something's going on.

Alan Hahn (3:51)

By the way, boys, Happy anniversary.

Don Hahn (3:54)

Yeah. Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (3:55)

How do you like that?

Alan Hahn (3:55)

How do you like them apples?

Peter Rosenberg (3:57)

One year of this program, then they.

Alan Hahn (3:58)

You know, nobody thought we'd ever get in a year.

Peter Rosenberg (4:03)

Well, I mean, my contract said at least.

Don Hahn (4:06)

I mean, if you just did the simple math, it had to get done.

Alan Hahn (4:10)

Gotta be honest with you, I didn't think I'd make it this far. I thought by sure I'd be done, be out.

Don Hahn (4:14)

You thought people were gonna start being let go.

Alan Hahn (4:16)

It's just like it's not working.

Don Hahn (4:19)

Well, not that there'll be a press. Press release or anything, but the only one that might not have made it to the anniversary was me. Why Is that because my contract was up on December 31st?

Peter Rosenberg (4:30)

Oh, you breaking some news here, pal.

Don Hahn (4:32)

Well, I'm on the air, so I did sign a contract.

Peter Rosenberg (4:37)

Hey, now, let me.

Don Hahn (4:39)

Hold on.

Peter Rosenberg (4:43)

So are you willing to give us the length or terms or anything related to the deal?

Don Hahn (4:46)

No terms. Undisclosed.

Alan Hahn (4:47)

Undisclosed.

Peter Rosenberg (4:49)

Let me put it this way.

Alan Hahn (4:50)

A lot of Soto deferred money, is there? Oh, deferred money.

Don Hahn (4:53)

Oh, no. It's all in an annuity.

Peter Rosenberg (4:56)

Let me ask you this. Let me say this.

Alan Hahn (5:00)

Yes.

Peter Rosenberg (5:00)

Are they showing you more confidence than the Giants are currently showing Joe Shane?

Alan Hahn (5:06)

Wow. Yes. Oh, yes.

Peter Rosenberg (5:09)

But it's nice to know that they gave Don more than Joe Shane confidence because in theory, you'd want to keep the band together and keep this thing rocking. Although they may have had enough.

Alan Hahn (5:16)

So multi year extension, that sounds. Can we. Can we phrase it this way in the story in the press release? Multi year extension. Thank you.

Peter Rosenberg (5:25)

But, Don, you don't do the interview because you'll end up saying something at the end that changes what people are talking about from the interview.

Alan Hahn (5:31)

We're just going to put a statement out.

Peter Rosenberg (5:32)

Yeah, just put the statement out.

Alan Hahn (5:33)

We're not going to make you available.

Peter Rosenberg (5:34)

Yeah, you're not available for conversation. It's a multi year deal. Okay. Because we know you'll end up saying more and it'll change it. And then there's a conversation about a conversation. You understand how things.

Don Hahn (5:45)

Listen, this is all. It's all done.

Peter Rosenberg (5:46)

It's all done, baby. We're locked up.

Alan Hahn (5:48)

Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (5:48)

So I don't know why anybody was.

Don Hahn (5:50)

Saying, since we're playing Captain Literal man, we wouldn't make a year.

Peter Rosenberg (5:53)

I figured at least a year, that.

Alan Hahn (5:55)

Would have been real.

Peter Rosenberg (5:56)

We would have had to have been astoundingly bad to have not made it.

Alan Hahn (6:00)

I said, and I'm being dead ass honest. I was not sure I'd make the year.

Don Hahn (6:07)

Why would you think that?

Alan Hahn (6:08)

Because I didn't know. You don't know. We gotta see how it feels. How does it work? Does it work? Does it not work? That's a big seat to fill.

Peter Rosenberg (6:19)

Oh, yeah.

Alan Hahn (6:19)

The big dog for 20 years.

Peter Rosenberg (6:21)

I tried to fill it yesterday. He said, get the hell out of it.

Alan Hahn (6:23)

He got you out of that quick.

Don Hahn (6:24)

By the way, I was gonna text you last night.

Alan Hahn (6:27)

Oh, sorry.

Don Hahn (6:27)

But then I said, please.

Peter Rosenberg (6:29)

Well, I will say this. It did feel, like, awkward for one second in the moment when I gathered my stuff up. Like that was tough. Like gather my papers. Like that was. That was a little tough.

Alan Hahn (6:39)

But.

Peter Rosenberg (6:40)

But at the same time, I understood And I. I'd rather him not hold it in. He felt away. It's a new.

Don Hahn (6:46)

It's. It's a new.

Peter Rosenberg (6:47)

I appreciate it.

Alan Hahn (6:48)

Am I a bad guy? Because it made me chuckle.

Peter Rosenberg (6:50)

Oh, no, of course. You just expected. But you guys will be happy to know that Becky lynch had me kicked out from ringside last night during her match.

Alan Hahn (6:56)

Oh, how'd that go?

Peter Rosenberg (6:57)

Psychotic lunatic.

Don Hahn (6:58)

She.

Peter Rosenberg (6:58)

She made up sort of with your brother today on. On his show.

Don Hahn (7:01)

Did Brooklyn or.

Peter Rosenberg (7:03)

No, No, I didn't see.

Don Hahn (7:04)

He honored the band.

Peter Rosenberg (7:06)

He honored the band. Maybe that's why there was respect. I was. She spotted me from the ring. This psycho.

Alan Hahn (7:12)

Love it.

Peter Rosenberg (7:12)

And she points to me and then calls over security, who I'm friends with, and says, get him the hell out of here.

Alan Hahn (7:20)

And what'd you do? Come on. Did you, like, just do the humble pie thing?

Peter Rosenberg (7:23)

No, I just walked out. I said I threw my hands up. We're not going to do a whole. I understand the pecking order. She's the man. Becky Lynch. I am just me.

Alan Hahn (7:32)

Excuse me.

Peter Rosenberg (7:33)

That's her nickname.

Alan Hahn (7:33)

Okay?

Peter Rosenberg (7:34)

That is just me. I'm Peter Rosenberg. I'm nobody. And I walked out. But I just thought it was astounding that she spotted me from the ring.

Alan Hahn (7:41)

Tremendous.

Peter Rosenberg (7:42)

Yes, A true lunatic.

Alan Hahn (7:43)

You didn't want to, like, throw, like, just get a little dramatic.

Peter Rosenberg (7:47)

You know what? I should have, like, I should have ran up to the ring and jawjacked with her a little bit, is what I should have done.

Alan Hahn (7:51)

Get the crowd going, chanting Rosenberg.

Peter Rosenberg (7:54)

No, they would have chanted the opposite.

Don Hahn (7:55)

They would.

Peter Rosenberg (7:56)

And that's the sad part, is she's a bad guy and they would have sided with her.

Don Hahn (7:59)

I.

Peter Rosenberg (7:59)

Although I will say we get a lot of love in Brooklyn. Like, you want to find out where, like, you know, true New Yorkers are. Like. And I say this respectfully to people I know who work at the Garden, but if you want to truly run into a lot of, like, New York people who listen to radio. Whenever I go to Barclays center, man, our people are out there. Queens, Brooklyn. It's the boroughs out in Brooklyn, man. And don't get me wrong, I run into my MSG people, too.

Alan Hahn (8:22)

The Garden. Every day, somebody's yelling something that we talked about that day. Well, that's every day.

Don Hahn (8:26)

So that's.

Peter Rosenberg (8:27)

You're Alan Hahn. You are the MSG network.

Alan Hahn (8:28)

You're the.

Peter Rosenberg (8:29)

You're. Well, you're not the M or the S or the G, but you get the idea.

Alan Hahn (8:33)

You know what I mean?

Peter Rosenberg (8:33)

But you're all of it at the same thing at the same time.

Alan Hahn (8:36)

I'll accept.

Peter Rosenberg (8:36)

Anyways, it was great. Ran into a lot of listeners. It was awesome to see them. But we're back here today and another day, another day of jets winning, more winning.

Don Hahn (8:43)

Well, we want to bring open with the jets just because we have Muji and Glenn sound that just came down a couple of hours ago as they finally speak postseason baggy day if you will as we now will get ready for what I think is going to be a very, very interesting off season. We gave him a break yesterday because listen, there was nothing to talk about. They were humiliated by the Buffalo Bills. They were humiliated the last five games of the regular season and the Giants made news with Shane coming back. But now the jets get their day and Muji and Glenn spoke. So you want to start with Muji. There's the general manager of the New York Jets. When will the team be competitive and respectable?

Moji (9:22)

I believe we can be competitive and respectful right away next year because I've.

Alan Hahn (9:26)

Been here a year.

Moji (9:27)

I've learned a lot. We've learned a lot. I've got a clear vision. AG and I like said we talk daily on this roster and the vision in this division and with the assets we have moving forward, the draft capital, the cap space, I know we're going to continue to build and add good players the team that are going to help us win.

Don Hahn (9:44)

Now obviously he'll say, well look at Washington. They went from 13 losses to 13 wins in one year. Look what the Patriots did. They went from 13 losses to 13 wins. So it's happened back to back years. Now the difference between the Patriots and the Commanders and the jets is that turnaround came from a quarterback in Washington.

Peter Rosenberg (10:06)

That's how it works usually with the.

Don Hahn (10:07)

Coach and a new general manager and with New England, you know, the quarterback getting another year under his belt and Frable, yeah, now they're going to try to say, well we got the coach but now who's going to be the quarterback? They're going to be taking second. So I guess more could be there if he decides to come out. Maybe, you know, something happens at the combine, something happens at the pro day, something happens with the Wonderlic test and Mendoza ends up getting leapfrogged by more and he's available at 2, but at 2 you should be able to get yourself a quarterback. If Moore leaves Oregon, which is not any kind of guarantee.

Alan Hahn (10:45)

It's not.

Don Hahn (10:46)

There's already rumblings that if he's not taking number one, he's going to stay because remember, he's making coin in Oregon. Yeah, they've got tons of money in Oregon. All right.

Peter Rosenberg (10:56)

So you don't root for Oregon, though. I do a little bit of.

Don Hahn (11:00)

Okay, well, it's just. It's a Portland thing.

Peter Rosenberg (11:03)

That's what I'm saying.

Don Hahn (11:04)

Well, because I'll give you details because I'm not revealing. Really. Okay. It ties in together, sure. But they've got. Their boosters have money, so he could stay. So I understand the optimism, guys, because the commanders and the Patriots did it. Not sure the jets are on the same trajectory as those teams, but you got to like the optimism.

Peter Rosenberg (11:27)

I appreciate it. It happens. Teams. He's right. Teams do do it.

Don Hahn (11:31)

Now, here's.

Alan Hahn (11:31)

Okay, before you go any further, please, just off that cut, Don, what were you saying going into the season that no one wanted to listen to?

Don Hahn (11:41)

That there was. They put zero expectations on the season.

Alan Hahn (11:44)

What'd they just do?

Don Hahn (11:45)

But expectations on the season. There you go. That's what.

Alan Hahn (11:48)

Let's not. Let's not overlook that.

Peter Rosenberg (11:49)

And that's why we look that.

Alan Hahn (11:51)

Because that's coming from the owner.

Don Hahn (11:53)

See, I'm glad you brought up.

Alan Hahn (11:54)

There's an urgency now because of how ugly the year was, how embarrassing it was. And now you know, there's an urgency from above saying, all right, guys, like it goes from. We give you five year deals to give you some time because we know this is going to take a while to turn it around after one year now it's like, guys turn it around now. They're feeling it right now.

Don Hahn (12:16)

Yeah, well, because scholarship's over.

Alan Hahn (12:18)

If one year.

Don Hahn (12:19)

One year. Because there's always expectations. And that's why it was so glaring to me when there was zero last year. I'm like, expect a bad year now. The dangerous thing is, remember how tough the Giant schedule was this past season?

Alan Hahn (12:33)

Yeah.

Don Hahn (12:33)

That's how tough the jets get.

Alan Hahn (12:34)

AFC West, NFC north, that's who the jets have next year, along with their own division, which has two playoff bills.

Don Hahn (12:40)

Right. So it's going to be tough how he plans on attacking the off season.

Moji (12:47)

I think everyone wants to be aggressive, but calculated with how they attack offseasons. Whether that's freedomcy in the draft and just knowing your team, knowing your division and what you need. You can say it's an aggressive approach, but it really needs to be a very calculated approach. Knowing your resources, your draft resources, your cap, your future cap and what that might look like. So we're always gonna look to add and kind of know where we might be deficient and where we might need to really add power to compete in the division.

Don Hahn (13:13)

Standard answer to that question, nothing, nothing, nothing is shaking. Nothing crazy. But he's optimistic about the offseason.

Moji (13:20)

I'm excited about the offseason as we go into it. Obviously the draft capital we have the cap space and just being here now, a year with ag, working with ag, the staff getting to learn, the staff getting to learn the players getting to learn this division, I feel more confident today than ever moving forward with what.

Alan Hahn (13:37)

We have going now.

Don Hahn (13:38)

The phrase draft capital instead of we've got the second pick is telling you that hey, we might take the second pick, we might package it with all the other first round picks that we have and try to better our situation next year or maybe go out and aggressively get an established quarterback someplace else. So just the phrasing of that guys to me is hey, we may not necessarily get our answer at 2.

Alan Hahn (14:00)

Wait till you see what he says about the draft.

Don Hahn (14:02)

All right, anybody first up talks about the quarterback situation, I can tell you this.

Moji (14:06)

We'll exhaust every option. Free agency, the league, obviously the draft, we will exhaust that and have a good solution for the New York jets, right?

Don Hahn (14:14)

So you've been saying that forever, that it doesn't necessarily have to come in this draft.

Alan Hahn (14:18)

I don't think it is. And the other thing that by the way, not that it needed to be said but he, without saying it, he also told you we're pretty much done with Justin Fields like later on Glenn admits or not admits. Glenn acknowledges that Fields is under contract next year and that whatever they're doing going forward decision. But like when, when they were several times about the quarterback position and each time they acknowledged that yeah, yeah, yeah, we have to fix that. Which tells you that they realize that they bringing in Justin Fields did not work and they've got to do better now.

Don Hahn (14:55)

It's a cap hit but they're going to have cap space. So do they absorb that hit or is he on the roster and maybe he's your third string just not a part of the future. But does he, does he hang around? But he's not somebody that I think is going to be playing any significant minutes this year. Do you want Breece hall back?

Moji (15:13)

Breeze is a good player. I want players back as we can. Like I mentioned, I met with probably 50 players yesterday, have a few. I met with Breece yesterday, had a lot of good conversations. So we'll go through this process and we'll see how free agency unfolds. But we want to add Good players. I won't get into hypotheticals and contracts and things like that, but we'll exhaust all different options and see where that ends.

Alan Hahn (15:30)

Yeah. The reason why they didn't trade Breeze hall was because they don't want to trade Breeze hall, and they want to sign him, but they also don't want to sign him to an insane number. They want to sign him to a reasonable number. And so that's what. What's going to get interesting this off season is what do they end up getting, keeping him for? But they don't want to trade him. They never did. That was always assumed because he was at the end of his deal. They had other. They had younger running backs, and the sense was that you could get a lot for Breeze hall, but they. They. They recognize that if we don't have strong quarterback play, we really are going to need good running game. And he's very good.

Don Hahn (16:05)

It's just the awkwardness of the positioning. Like, how much do you pay him?

Alan Hahn (16:09)

Right.

Don Hahn (16:09)

Because he's a running back and how much do you invest?

Peter Rosenberg (16:11)

Although it did feel like it was a good year for running backs, taking a step towards it.

Don Hahn (16:16)

It might be some respect for the position. It might be for sure. All right, let's hear from Aaron Glenn. But I think we'd all agree that I thought Muji handled himself very well.

Alan Hahn (16:24)

What we didn't get, what we didn't play for everybody, that I thought caught my attention the most, which normally the opening statement stuff in these press conferences, you kind of like, don't even pay attention to the fact that Mood was the only one who spoke. Glenn didn't. And when he spoke, he spoke with an authoritative voice, authority. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Don Hahn (16:47)

No, you're right.

Alan Hahn (16:48)

And that kind of gave me the sense of this is the guy that's sort of in charge here. Even Glenn seemed to do a lot of deferring to Darren Muji in this press conference. That said a lot to me. He. I think Muji came off very. For a franchise that has embarrassed itself for the last six months. He came off very impressive today, in my opinion. We've seen a lot of these. He was very impressive today.

Don Hahn (17:15)

And I've always said. The other thing I said about the lack of expectations is I think it's always been more of a charade that Glenn was as in charge as they made it appear, because I think they wanted to have that authoritative figure, a familiar figure. Nobody knows Darren Muji. Nobody could pick him out of a lineup.

Peter Rosenberg (17:32)

It's his.

Don Hahn (17:32)

Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn played in the 98 championship game. You know, friends with Bill Parcells, recommended by Bill Parcells. That carried a lot more weight. But I really think Muji's the guy.

Alan Hahn (17:42)

Yeah, Glenn clearly struggled with that role.

Don Hahn (17:44)

He did.

Alan Hahn (17:45)

Didn't know what to do.

Don Hahn (17:45)

And he also talked about being a rookie head coach.

Aaron Glenn (17:48)

As a rookie head coach and same thing as a gm. Man going through the first year and really understanding the landscape of everything, like that's a huge deal, you know, I will tell you that right now. And speaking of myself, man, there's a number of things I know that I'll be better at. And again, I'm still doing self reflection, but I know for a fact there are a number of things. And the confidence that I have didn't move. The confidence I have in our owner, the confidence I have in myself, the confidence I have and some of the foundational players that we have, that's where the confidence really comes from, you know, if that makes sense.

Don Hahn (18:18)

And well, it does, because as Alan said in the beginning of the show, when you join what used to be the Michael K Show and you come into this slot, you know, a year later, you look back and go, hey, listen, it's. It's the first year's tough. You know, I'm going through it with the Devils and you went through with WWE recently, like, you know, head coach for the first time, Aaron Glenn. That first year is gonna. There's gonna be a lot of curveballs you're not ready for. You think you're ready, but then all of a sudden it starts happening real fast and you're like, wow, this isn't what I expected.

Alan Hahn (18:51)

We always talk about developing players and everything's development in sport, in pro sports today, right? How important it is to develop. And we really never give young coaches the chance to develop because we put so much on them. Somebody that's never had that position before, that maybe has the foundation to one day be a great coach, but needs to learn their way. Which is why he brought in Steve Wilkes, because he thought, at least I have another guy who's had head coach experience that I could bounce some stuff off of. But you realize that that was a mistake too, because I brought in somebody that really isn't very good head coach and isn't a great coach and we really don't play the. We really aren't about the same system. So it's. Those are the types of mistakes that you learn from and a year later you'll be better for. And that's all you're waiting for is to see can Aaron Glenn work his way into becoming a good head coach after having some missteps early. We let players learn on the job. Unfortunately, what the jets have to do right now is let the head coach learn on the job.

Don Hahn (19:47)

He also puts the season and the blame on himself.

Aaron Glenn (19:50)

I put a lot of it on me as far as just the wins and losses. Just I will really say like that I put a lot of it on me, on the wins and losses and I have to do a better job. And I'm not going to sit here and blame on the Ross. I'm not going to sit here and blame on the coaching staff. I'm gonna blame it on the guy that's sitting right in front of you. And I got to do a better job. And I'm always say that, you know, and until I get that the whole situation situated, then we'll be better, which I know we will next year.

Alan Hahn (20:14)

Fantastic. 10 out of 10. It's exactly what he should have said. Perfect pitch perfect.

Peter Rosenberg (20:21)

Hey, listen, if you're going to win it, you got to win a day somewhere, right? You can't win on Sunday. Well, give me Tuesday.

Alan Hahn (20:27)

But winning a day or just at least coming to grips on where you are beyond no longer putting up an act and no longer trying to be bravado and, you know, keeping receipts and all that. We don't need to do that.

Don Hahn (20:38)

Someone ever said him.

Peter Rosenberg (20:39)

I totally agree.

Don Hahn (20:40)

I think the PR finally got to him because the whole act early, it got tired and then you and he got humbled. So I think you're still.

Peter Rosenberg (20:50)

It's hard to play that game with the way that season went.

Alan Hahn (20:54)

Yeah. You can't have bravado when you have 14 losses.

Peter Rosenberg (20:57)

I think. I think the Bills are still scoring like you just can't.

Don Hahn (20:59)

It's.

Alan Hahn (21:00)

It's.

Peter Rosenberg (21:00)

No, it makes sense.

Don Hahn (21:02)

But he's got a clear vision moving forward.

Aaron Glenn (21:04)

There's a clear vision, there's a clear plan on how we want to go about doing things. And you match that with mood, with our owner, the confidence, having myself with some of the foundational players that we have, that in itself to me gives like all the confidence in the world, man, that we're going to go in the right direction now. There are some things we got to fix. Absolutely. We know that and we'll fix those. We'll attack those the way we have to.

Don Hahn (21:26)

I find this one interesting or looking forward to the answer of what he's looking for in a D.C. now, I.

Aaron Glenn (21:31)

Like to be aggressive. I want to make sure that we're of the guy that we do have in that there's a lot of synergy between me and that coach to not saying that it wasn't synergy between me and Wilkes. It's just I want to make sure as I go through this process that that's not a step that I don't miss. And it'll be a number of coaches that we take a look at.

Don Hahn (21:47)

You also admitted in the press conference it was more about him being a former head coach and maybe helping him than it was maybe the right fit, right. For the defense. So now he'll be able to just say, I'm going to get somebody that plays my system and that I can feel good about. And he wants to earn the trust of the fans I expect.

Aaron Glenn (22:05)

And I will want our fans to have a total trust in us and being able to do that. And we have to ear that too. And our plan is to do that. And we don't expect to have another season like this here, you know, so we're looking forward to this offseason, looking forward to getting to work using the draft capital we have and the money we have in free agency to continue to build what we've been trying to build.

Don Hahn (22:23)

Now what he found out was the only way to respect, get respect from the fans. Win. You know, you what you say and the all gas, no break that Salah gave you or bravado or throwing this around, that around, it doesn't matter. Win.

Alan Hahn (22:40)

Right.

Don Hahn (22:41)

And you won three times.

Alan Hahn (22:44)

So humble pie. You need that right now. Head down, get to work. No big statements, no big proclamations, nothing like that. To me, this organization has had a really hard time over the last 15 years understanding that you are the laughingstock of the league and you need to just kind of like quiet down. Right? Like to me that that's what. But it starts at the top. But they really have to have this understanding, Don Peter, that they have to recognize what you are, how people view you and to just stop being like, take the circus tents down enough. Just low key, head down, just work.

Don Hahn (23:25)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (23:25)

No promises, no proclamation, no shortcuts, no nothing.

Don Hahn (23:28)

No shortcuts. Win. Yeah, that's it.

Peter Rosenberg (23:32)

Don't talk. No tough talk.

Alan Hahn (23:34)

But no nothing. Just get to work and just, you know, thank people for staying with you. Not don't let go of the rope. No, just thank people for staying with you and understand when people are frustrated with you.

Peter Rosenberg (23:47)

So that's all. Could the only miss from today be setting some level of expectation? Like, do you not Want any level of expectations that's from the top, man.

Alan Hahn (23:56)

I think that's from above them. They had to say that.

Peter Rosenberg (23:59)

They had to because they're saying we can't be this. We have to be better.

Alan Hahn (24:03)

Because they were asked about that, like, what are your expectations for the next year? What do you think they're going to say? Well, you know, it's still going to take some time. They can't say that because the owner doesn't want to hear that.

Peter Rosenberg (24:12)

Well, and after a season this bad, how can you say you won't be better? Oh, we're going to run this back.

Alan Hahn (24:17)

That's a good point.

Peter Rosenberg (24:17)

Like how this is not a team that's starting at the absolute.

Alan Hahn (24:23)

I mean, this is ground zero, man.

Peter Rosenberg (24:25)

It really is pretty ground zero.

Alan Hahn (24:26)

I mean, you're tied with the worst record in the league.

Peter Rosenberg (24:29)

We saw. You didn't have one interception. We talked about this. There's. There's no true leader on this team. The best player, the best player was traded mid season.

Don Hahn (24:37)

What I like about it, two men acknowledged the dumpster fire that 2025 was.

Peter Rosenberg (24:42)

Thank you. There you go. You'll take that.

Don Hahn (24:44)

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Alan Hahn (25:34)

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

Peter Rosenberg (25:37)

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

Alan Hahn (25:38)

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Don Hahn (25:46)

All right, great reaction on the Jet Sound. So let's hear from you at 1-800-919-3776. Who do we start with?

Alan Hahn (25:55)

6. 7.

Don Hahn (25:56)

You know, we always leave him on hold for a long time. Let's go to him first today.

Alan Hahn (26:00)

Why would you say that?

Don Hahn (26:01)

Because we do. He knows Moose in Jamaica. It's weird seeing 16 minutes and not 116 minutes while he's on Hold.

Caller/Listener (26:11)

First of all, good afternoon.

Caller/Listener (26:14)

Well, happy New Year. Yes, but I want to congratulate you on your year. I'm a loyal listener, so me staying on hold, whether it be 15 seconds or 15 hours, if that's possible, would not matter. Another high losing statement.

Caller/Listener (26:27)

What else is new?

Caller/Listener (26:31)

They single better than me. I, I just try to keep up to be safe. But I'm going to talk about the, the Giants. So going into the season, you guys remember that we were the youngest team in the NFL according to age or something like the bottom three and stuff. So we were relatively inexperienced. Besides the free agent signings and whatever players coming back, I didn't expect much from the season except to hope to see that we can move the ball forward on offense, protect the quarterback, run the ball, which we did. Our defense struggled, but that was maybe due to Micah McFadden getting injured and certain pieces missing in certain games that we had a chance to win according to our lower talent level than the playoff competition in our schedule. So us going 4 and 13 was no shock to me. But that being said, yeah, I was just.

Don Hahn (27:25)

But the problem is is that, you know, you had so many games that they could have won. I understand the schedule was tough, Moose, I get it. But you've got the Lions on the ropes, the packers on the ropes, the Broncos on the Bronco game. Give me a break. So we looked at it and go, oh, you're not going to win a Mile High against the Broncos. You're not going to win a Detroit against the Lions. But then you see 10 point lead in the fourth quarter in Detroit. What was it, a how many point lead? 30 point lead against the Denver Brown. Like you can't just explain it away and go well this is what I expected. There's a pot of, well when you've got double digit leads in the fourth quarter, you got to win some of those games.

Peter Rosenberg (28:04)

That's usually.

Alan Hahn (28:05)

Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (28:06)

What you're going for.

Don Hahn (28:07)

So it's not just oh well, we lost to Denver. I knew we were going to lose to Denver. Did you think you were going to lose to Denver when you had a 30 point, 30 to nothing going to the fourth quarter?

Peter Rosenberg (28:15)

Yeah, it was a 32 that they gave up.

Don Hahn (28:17)

I forget, yeah, I forget the. Because I was shocked in my mind. And then Detroit, well guess what? Detroit didn't make the playoffs either. He had a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter against them. Couldn't finish them off.

Peter Rosenberg (28:26)

What about Dallas? Dallas didn't turn out to be special football team Smoke.

Don Hahn (28:33)

But you can't Sit there.

Alan Hahn (28:33)

Go.

Don Hahn (28:33)

I knew it was going to be this bad, but then that's why I always say you got to watch it.

Peter Rosenberg (28:38)

What does it look like?

Don Hahn (28:39)

See what it looks like.

Peter Rosenberg (28:40)

What does it look like?

Don Hahn (28:41)

And in this kind of season, be like, oh, you lost by two points in Denver. That's a good job. And you look at the game and go, my God, we doubt we blew that game.

Alan Hahn (28:52)

So their defense was supposed to be the strength of the team, and it was not.

Don Hahn (28:57)

No, it was bad.

Alan Hahn (28:58)

And that's. That's the biggest part of the problem. And that's probably why you saw Quinn and Sauce just like, we're not good enough. Like, we're not good enough, and these are our highest paid, two best players, and this isn't enough. We need to do that. That's it.

Don Hahn (29:11)

Let's go to Ira Staten Island. You're on ESPN New York. How are you?

Caller/Listener (29:16)

Oh, good, gentlemen. Happy New Year. I know it's late, but I'm going to say it anyway. All you know, I've heard, Saul. And listen, I'll give them credit for eating humble pie. Don, you hit it right on the head.

Caller/Listener (29:29)

But.

Caller/Listener (29:29)

And Alan, you're right. It came right from the top with Woody. That was his way to apologize to the fans by making expectations for next year. But the one thing that I can't buy into, I can't believe anything they say, because I've heard it all. I've heard it all through the beginning that I saw it to follow this franchise and the few good years, bad years, and the extremely ugly years, and this goes beyond that, okay? Until they start to show they have a competitive, winning product on the field, I don't care what anybody says, and I understand movies, not to give you any, you know, hints or what he's going to do in the draft, a free agency, that. That's his job. No GM tells you that. But they have to prove it. They can market this team. They could do the speak. I've seen it for so many, so many years. It's time to shut up and produce on the field and let me see them get at least a.500 record next year, which honestly I think is impossible with the schedule they have.

Alan Hahn (30:35)

Again, that's what we said, right? This is if there's ever a message for the jets for next season. It is. It is. They just need to quiet the noise, and they cannot create their own noise. Like, that's simply it. Like, you heard what Irish said. Like, every year we see the same thing over and over again. All the Speeches, all the models, all the slogans, all the different things you want to say. That the tough talk. Now, I know that social media has got to put out stuff because they want to get your fans excited. So you do some highlight videos, there's always that. That stuff. I get it. But when it comes to those who are talking, whether it's Moogie, whether it's Glenn, if Woody Johnson ever speaks, don't give me any proclamations. Head down, get to work.

Don Hahn (31:17)

But I do think where words matter is a day like today.

Alan Hahn (31:21)

Yes.

Don Hahn (31:22)

Just to acknowledge we suck.

Peter Rosenberg (31:24)

Yeah, yeah. No, the year's officially over.

Don Hahn (31:27)

We all saw it, right?

Peter Rosenberg (31:28)

We're not gonna play games with you now and disrespect you.

Don Hahn (31:31)

No, but he's right. It's going to be better next year. How quickly can you turn? Yeah, it's all just a word salad that they're going to try to feed and shove down your throat. But I think there is something to acknowledging that we know how bad we are.

Peter Rosenberg (31:44)

I agree. That's fair.

Don Hahn (31:45)

And I don't know if I got that from Joe Shane yesterday, but I definitely got it from Muji and I got it from Klein. Now, what's that worth to you? I don't know. It's up to you. But I think it had to be said. Now let's get to work. Now, anything that gets said after that is nothing means nothing. Now let's get to work. Have a great draft, good free agency, good camp, keep everybody healthy, start winning games. That's all anybody is going to want to hear from now on. Jimmy in la. You're on ESPN New York.

Caller/Listener (32:15)

Hi.

Caller/Listener (32:15)

Thanks, Don.

Caller/Listener (32:16)

Hi, Alan. Hi, Peter. First, I just want to say that Ira and I are first cousins. His. Our late fathers were brothers.

Caller/Listener (32:24)

Oh, really?

Peter Rosenberg (32:25)

No way.

Don Hahn (32:29)

You're a Jet fan too?

Caller/Listener (32:32)

I've been a jet fan since 1967.

Peter Rosenberg (32:35)

God bless.

Don Hahn (32:36)

Our condolences.

Caller/Listener (32:38)

In fact, I grandfathered my tickets over to Ira.

Peter Rosenberg (32:44)

This is a big deal to talk to the guy who grandfathers tickets to Ira.

Alan Hahn (32:47)

How about this? We, we got some back.

Caller/Listener (32:49)

Truth and transparency be told.

Caller/Listener (32:51)

But any event, let me just get to the point. One, I'm happy they, they took responsibility, great. But bottom line, you know, their street credibility with their fan base is little to zero. And the only way culture is going to be changed is like you said, Don, two words. Win games. I'll say it again. Win games, games. All the other stuff. All the, you know, I gave up in all their banter during the off season because that's all it Is, you know, it's like, bottom line, when 20, 26 starts, let's see. Let's see you start winning games on a consistent basis. And that's when maybe they will re. Earn the credibility of their fan base. Because as of right now, neither I and many other people, other Jet fans that I know, both expatriated New Yorkers who live in LA and people that I know, obviously, Ira, you know, we're not going to believe this stuff until they consistently start winning.

Don Hahn (33:57)

Yep. You need to show it. All right. There's a time to talk, and then there's a time to walk. And they got to start walking. And they tried to give you the whole bravado. I thought, in the beginning of camp, at least from Glenn, there were no expectations, but kind of. Glenn came in with a bravado, and the way he talked to the media.

Alan Hahn (34:14)

Gonna do this is what we're gonna be.

Don Hahn (34:16)

And then he found out. Now, this. This job is hard. All right. I'm not. I'll never say that he didn't respect the job. I think he did. And I think he. He knew it was gonna be hard, and then he found out. It's a lot harder.

Alan Hahn (34:28)

Yeah.

Don Hahn (34:28)

Than you expected.

Alan Hahn (34:29)

Especially when you have no talent and.

Don Hahn (34:31)

No quarterback and no words and no catchphrases are gonna get everybody going. What's gonna get people going is going out there and winning the game. Mm. And the way the season closed, guys.

Alan Hahn (34:41)

Yeah. Yeah.

Don Hahn (34:42)

I mean, five straight blowouts. Yeah.

Alan Hahn (34:45)

Hopefully, like, a couple years from now, they'll tell the. You know, they'll go back and give us, like, the origin story of the first season. And it's like, oh, those last five, man, we. We did all we could to tank those games. Well, that's not a win. That's because it looked like it.

Don Hahn (35:00)

Because if you really tried to win those games and failed that miserably, then there's an issue.

Alan Hahn (35:06)

It's a bigger problem than you thought.

Don Hahn (35:07)

And we're not going to know the answer to that after quite a while. Let's go to Mike at Hawthorne. Always a pleasure to talk to him. You're on espn, New York. What's up, Mike?

Caller/Listener (35:15)

Hey, guys.

Moji (35:16)

How are you?

Caller/Listener (35:16)

Happy, Happy New Year, and congrats on everything, and thanks. First, congratulations. First, congratulations on the. Whoever hired the. Your competition in the afternoon. That couldn't have been a worse hire. So, you guys, ratings are gonna go through the roof. Those guys are horrific.

Don Hahn (35:34)

But your point.

Alan Hahn (35:35)

We don't really have ratings.

Peter Rosenberg (35:36)

Everybody says point remains, though.

Alan Hahn (35:38)

But whenever it said, like, oh, that's. You keep beating that state. No, you're not. No, there's. No, we don't do rating. We're not involved in that.

Don Hahn (35:47)

No, we appreciate it.

Alan Hahn (35:48)

So thank you.

Caller/Listener (35:49)

No, I'm just, It's just. But talking about the jets as I'm actually driving home from work and I just drove by the Meadowlands and I almost jumped into the Hackensack river thinking I got to go back there next year, was a season ticket holder. It's just what bothers me more than anything. I think I spoke to Don about, or maybe Alan is. I just got a thing in the mail on an email last night saying thank you very much for your first payment for next year. It's an automatic deduction of X amount of dollars because I have it on the 11 month plan or whatever. And I called Mike, the young man that I've been dealing with for a couple of years. I say, look, what. What's going on? How in God's name could you guys in good conscience, as a business, as a business owner have an unbelievable. It's like a restaurant having a crappy steak for 15 years and every year the state goes up 4 or 5%. And I don't understand. And he. Look, again, it's not him. He says he took 1,000 of those calls. But then I find out that they didn't raise the ticket prices for every seat. They just changed them for the seats that are in the lower level. I said, look, just because I'm in the lower level doesn't mean that you think I can afford a race. And thank God the Jets had played against teams that I knew, friends of mine that wanted to go see those teams play. Yeah, I mean, the last game I gave my tickets away, the Patriot game, they were $170 a ticket plus $40 for parking. I mean, it's, it's insane what they're charging for. And then you can't, you can't. Like, I'm just so frustrated. Normally I'm pretty on point when I talk to you guys, but I just can't handle the fact that they have such a poor product. They don't know what they're doing. I hope they bring Glenn back. I think they deserve, he deserves to come back with the, with the montage that they gave him. But the amount of money that they're charging these, charging us as fans. But again, I think you said it yesterday, Allen or Don or maybe Peter is the NFL. They can charge whatever they want. They have an unbelievable monopoly on everything.

Don Hahn (37:56)

Well, let Me ask you something, Mike, is if I'm not mistaken, the lower bowl is the only one with a psl, Right?

Caller/Listener (38:02)

Correct.

Caller/Listener (38:03)

I had to buy that, too.

Don Hahn (38:04)

Well, because that's why they rose the ticket prices for the. For the lower bowl, because they figure you're already paying a psl. So we can. We can't do it in the upper deck because we don't have a psl. People aren't going to renew their tickets.

Alan Hahn (38:16)

They're raising prices.

Don Hahn (38:18)

So they're. They're taking advantage of you, Mike. They're. They're figuring, well, you're spending on the psl, so of course you're going to pay the extra bucks.

Alan Hahn (38:24)

This is the part. To me, that's totally your point.

Caller/Listener (38:26)

Let me. Let me.

Alan Hahn (38:27)

Go ahead, Go ahead, go ahead, finish it.

Caller/Listener (38:30)

No, but to your point, Don, when I got these tickets through a miscommunication with my father in law, and somehow I got the ticket, so I said, okay, I'll take them. And. And then they talked me into the PSL saying, listen, we have, you know, Sanchez, and we go into the. I go, look, this is a lot of money. This is a lot of money. I don't make a lot of money. I do the best I can. And all of a sudden you're talking about two PSLs, and they're telling me that, you know, like it's the golden goose or something. Who the heck wants those tickets?

Don Hahn (38:59)

You.

Alan Hahn (38:59)

You gave me?

Don Hahn (39:00)

And then. Thank you for the call, Mike, about the. The place that has a bad stake. Well, if there's still a line around the block to get the stake, they're gonna keep raising the prices.

Alan Hahn (39:08)

Yeah.

Don Hahn (39:09)

So all you're left to do, and I hate to say this because you're a fan and you want to go, is to just say, no, I'm not.

Caller/Listener (39:16)

I'm not gonna pay it.

Alan Hahn (39:17)

You really do have to get to that point, and it's hard to do because you're always afraid that's the year that the team's gonna start to win. You're afraid of that. Right. And you also, as we've remember, at the end of the season, we were getting callers who said, I don't really go for the games anymore. I go because the tailgate's fun and there's people that I sit near that I've just known for years. I like seeing them. It's like, it's my thing to do every week. And I understand that, but, man, that's an expensive hobby. I know for a team that's given you nothing for 15 years. And they refuse to say, in one year, you know what? We're gonna freeze prices this year because you've stuck with us.

Peter Rosenberg (39:50)

And if you really do love the team as much as I'm sure you do, sometimes when you love something, you gotta let it go. And it's the only way that these places hear us any. No matter what it is that you support, if the prices are too high, the only way you can show them is to stop buying tickets. And that is it.

Don Hahn (40:07)

You know, yelling at the operator on the other end of the phone or writing a nasty letter to Woody Johnson, Believe me, they can handle that. What they can't handle is you canceling the tickets. And if you're not going to do that, they're going to keep raising the prices.

Alan Hahn (40:18)

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

Peter Rosenberg (40:22)

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

Alan Hahn (40:23)

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Don Hahn (41:25)

All right, let's dive back into the phones. 1-800-919-3776. Vinnie, Staten island, you're on ESPN New York.

Caller/Listener (41:32)

What's up, guys? I want to pose five questions here, all right? I'm just sick of the thinking that these GMs have.

Don Hahn (41:39)

They.

Caller/Listener (41:40)

They don't have no foresight for nothing.

Caller/Listener (41:43)

Okay. You hired, you get Kirk Cousins. Does that make you a better team next year?

Don Hahn (41:47)

No.

Alan Hahn (41:48)

Well, better than you. I mean, your quarterback play, does that give you.

Caller/Listener (41:51)

Will that give you a stable quarterback?

Peter Rosenberg (41:54)

Not quite stable, no.

Caller/Listener (41:57)

Okay. Doesn't give you a better stable quarterback than Justin Fields.

Don Hahn (42:00)

Okay.

Alan Hahn (42:02)

It's. It's a. It's A minor upgrade if you gave.

Peter Rosenberg (42:05)

Me Kirk Cousins of three years ago. Huge upgrade. But that's not where we are anymore.

Alan Hahn (42:08)

Yeah.

Caller/Listener (42:09)

Okay. You. You hire Kai, you get Kyle Pitts in free agency. Does that make you better? That give you a top break, tight end?

Peter Rosenberg (42:16)

This would be helpful, yes.

Caller/Listener (42:19)

Okay.

Alan Hahn (42:19)

You.

Caller/Listener (42:20)

You get Cornell Tate as the first round draft pick as a wide receiver opposite Garrett Wilson.

Alan Hahn (42:28)

Give me that.

Don Hahn (42:28)

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Alan Hahn (42:30)

Okay.

Caller/Listener (42:31)

Okay, here's the best question of all. You get rid of Aaron Glenn and.

Caller/Listener (42:35)

Bring in Rex Ryan.

Caller/Listener (42:36)

Does that invigorate your fan base and your team?

Peter Rosenberg (42:38)

Invigorate your fan base?

Alan Hahn (42:40)

Here's where you lost me. Here's where you lost me. I don't. No, no. Here's the only problem, Vinnie. And I know what you're doing there, and I'm a big fan of Rex, but you know what? I can't. This is the problem with this franchise. But what he can't care about, unfortunately, right now, other than saving his fans money by not raising ticket prices but carrying. I got to get the fans fired up.

Peter Rosenberg (43:01)

Invigorating the fans.

Alan Hahn (43:02)

What invigorates the fan base is winning is a good.

Caller/Listener (43:06)

You're going to get wins with Rex.

Peter Rosenberg (43:09)

How do you know that?

Caller/Listener (43:11)

Now, now, let me tell you what they're going. They're gonna get Dante Moore and he's.

Caller/Listener (43:16)

Gonna get run out of town by the second year.

Caller/Listener (43:19)

They're gonna win three games again next year, and you're gonna start the whole psychotic circle all over again. That's what's gonna happen.

Don Hahn (43:26)

All right.

Alan Hahn (43:27)

Well, I can't say. I can't tell you you're wrong because that's probably the most likely outcome.

Don Hahn (43:31)

That's. That's the safe bet. Unfortunately, that's how it always seems to go.

Alan Hahn (43:34)

Yes. All right.

Don Hahn (43:36)

But you make Kirk Cousins out to be like a savior. I don't know that to be true.

Alan Hahn (43:42)

They just reworked his deal in Atlanta, by the way, to save some money.

Don Hahn (43:45)

Let's just say he was available. Okay, listen, they won eight games, right? Yeah, they were eight and nine and he was okay. And he would certainly upgrade the quarterback position from what you had this year.

Peter Rosenberg (43:56)

Sure, slightly.

Don Hahn (43:58)

But I don't know where you're going. Does it. Check any boxes for the future, you say, oh, they'll get Dante Moore and then all. They'll win three games. Oh, maybe they'll get Dante Moore and he turns out to be the next great quarterback. And then you finally figure it all out. Rex Ryan. Listen, I know he went to back to back championship games. All right. And maybe this year he would have won a few more games than. Than Aaron because he's more experienced. How much did he win in Buffalo? How much did he win after 2010 with the Jets?

Alan Hahn (44:28)

Again, I don't want to.

Don Hahn (44:29)

2011, 2012, 2013.

Alan Hahn (44:31)

I like Rex personally, but you know, there's a reason why he has tried to get back into the game as a coach and he's not getting those calls anymore. He had his time and he had a hell of a start. Then it really fell off. We're all forgetting the end of the Rex Ryan era. It really fell off. And then he went to Buffalo. It didn't catch there either. He does come in with great bravado. He does give you that voice. There's something exciting about it. And last year for a minute, we all thought about it. Why not bring Rex back? He loves it here. Blood in the ground. He was campaigning for it and he. Yes, he was. But that's not what you do right now.

Don Hahn (45:10)

Now you want to bring him as the D.C. listen, that's where I think that's his battlewick. Right. That's where he's good.

Alan Hahn (45:15)

Yeah. If he's ready to do it.

Don Hahn (45:17)

Let's go to Bobby in Westchester. You're on ESPN New York.

Caller/Listener (45:21)

Love the show, guys and love to.

Caller/Listener (45:23)

Hear you Don on the hockey. I'm a big flyer fan, but I always, always root for the devil sometimes too. The only thing I could see and look, I've been a fan since 67. It's been brutal. Alan as a Jeff is give me a big defensive coordinator. Now look, I would like Rex, but I don't think he'll do it. But Schwartz or Wink, and that tells me our gland is being humble and being afraid. You're not being afraid of losing his.

Caller/Listener (45:52)

Job because if he wins, he keeps the job. But if he doesn't, then one of those guys is going to take over.

Alan Hahn (45:58)

There you go.

Caller/Listener (46:00)

That to me would be the. Otherwise we've seen it with Gase. I saw it with co tied. I saw Lou Holt, Charlie winner. So that. That will change it. And then look, we could go with a quarterback and I even think Dable possibly to be a quarterback's coach or something. If he would do it to help Tanner because he's Noah. I like Tanner, but that, but listen, love the show and I want to hear your opinion.

Alan Hahn (46:25)

All right.

Don Hahn (46:26)

Thank you, Bobby. Yeah, because it's all about the coordinators. Right? That's what's really going to help.

Alan Hahn (46:30)

And Angstrand's very young yeah, he came out any help with Ben Johnson in Detroit, but he was. I think he was down a peg. But so he was elevated to an OC position that. Who knows if he was ready for it also. But yeah, I. One thing they also talked about when it comes to quarterbacks is finding other ways to help quarterbacks and develop quarterbacks and all that stuff. And they said it has nothing to do with who we have on staff now, but could we get more people in? And that sounds to me like quarterbacks coach somebody that. But somebody with real experience. Remember when they drafted Zach Wilson? They. I just can't think of his name right now. But he had that tragic accident where everyone expected.

Don Hahn (47:14)

Accident. Yeah.

Alan Hahn (47:15)

He was supposed to be the mentor and then they didn't have them. And so, you know, that was their plan. And that plan obviously was. Was gone awry. That's something I think they're probably thinking about for this year, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Greg, now. So they need something like that, an experienced coach who can just work with quarterbacks and develop quarterbacks. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

Peter Rosenberg (47:44)

I don't want to know how the.

Alan Hahn (47:45)

Sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.