Hour 1: Giannis Watch? Again?

Summary

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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg

Episode Summary: Hour 1 – "Giannis Watch? Again?"

Air Date: June 22, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" dives into New York sports life after the Knicks' long-awaited championship, with spirited debates about the potential Giannis Antetokounmpo trade, the Knicks' chances to repeat, player contract puzzles, and how quickly sports radio pivots to “what’s next” after a title. The trio also share their Father's Day adventures, commiserate over New York baseball, and banter about World Cup soccer, national name changes, and more—keeping the vibe equal parts insightful and irreverent.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Father’s Day Recap and Family Talk

Timestamps: (01:02–10:00)

• All three hosts reflect on their Father’s Day experiences:
  • Don had “ups and downs,” with household chores followed by enjoying a “dream” double cheeseburger and a creative guava nectar cocktail (02:10).
  • Han continued his family tradition at Wild West City, sharing nostalgia about buying overpriced toy guns and observing his son's ballplayer persona with colored goggles (08:40).
  • Rosenberg hosted a lively house party with family, “delicious burgers,” and music, declaring, “That was my happy place. I had so much joy, I didn’t want it to end.” (07:49)

Notable Quotes

“They sing, they dance. You just sit back and let it go. And it’s so much fun.”
—Rosenberg, (07:24)

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2. Wild West City & New York Nostalgia

Timestamps: (08:04–10:46)

• Han explains Wild West City’s activities for newcomers, blending nostalgia and humor as his family immerses in recreations of OK Corral, stagecoach robberies, and more.
• Banter ensues about historical figures, including a costumed Abraham Lincoln.
• Light-hearted talk about kids’ fashion, with Han’s son committed to his athlete-style glasses.

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3. Baseball & Local Sports Landscape

Timestamps: (11:12 – 12:30, 22:12–23:05)

• After the Knicks title, Mets and Yankees updates feel bleak.
  • Mets are “still a very average team.”
  • Yankees “need a catcher,” facing roster-building rumors.
• Yankees’ continued first-place status is mentioned.

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4. World Cup Soccer Sidebar

Timestamps: (11:12–13:31, 23:05–25:26)

• U.S. has advanced to the round of 32 without trailing.
• The panel explores the debate over the pronunciation and spelling of "Turkey" (“Türkiye”), highlighting the country’s recent official UN-recognized name change.
• Discussion about national branding—how countries like Czechia and Turkey navigate identity and public perception.

Memorable Banter

“I thought maybe they became such big fans of Kanye in the modern era, they just added ‘Yay’ to the end, like turkey + yay, ‘Turkey-yay’.”
—Don, (24:10)

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5. Linda Cohn Retirement & Sports Media Reflections

Timestamps: (12:33–13:51, 31:26–32:31)

• Announcement of ESPN legend Linda Cohn’s upcoming retirement; she will join the show later, recognized for her unique commitment to local New York sports and hockey particularly.

“She loved the Rangers so much that she would volunteer if we needed somebody… This is a television legend… would do pre and post.”
—Han, (13:24)

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6. Main Topic: Giannis Trade Watch & Knicks Offseason

Timestamps: (13:51–23:05)

• Rumor Mill: Heavy speculation about Giannis Antetokounmpo possibly being traded before the NBA draft.
  • Miami Heat and Boston Celtics positioned as frontrunners.
  • Knicks’ chances influenced by changes in the East.
• Discussion of the logic (or lack thereof) behind Boston breaking up their championship core for Giannis.
  • Rosenberg is skeptical: “It just doesn’t feel like [Brad Stevens’] kind of move to blow up a team like that…” (16:45)
  • Han and Don question the wisdom of sacrificing Jalen Brown/Tatum partnership.

Notable Quotes

“I’m not on the edge of my seat thinking this is going down any moment.”
—Rosenberg, (17:57)

“Why are you… what’s the desperation to break these guys up?”
—Don, (19:44)

• Knicks’ Cap & Roster Moves:
  • Watch on Jose Alvarado’s player option and Mitchell Robinson’s possible extension.
  • “Second apron” cap implications discussed, balancing roster continuity with flexibility.
  • The panel stresses that repeating won’t be easy with Indy getting Halliburton back, Detroit’s growth, and Boston’s perpetual threat.

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7. Fan Mentality: Can’t Enjoy the Title for a Week?

Timestamps: (31:58–35:16)

• Don vents about New York media pivoting too quickly from parade joy to roster evaluation:
  • “It’s just, can you give... Did these guys earn a full extra 24 hours past the parade?”
• Hahn pushes back, saying NBA’s business calendar makes it impossible to pause (“blame the NBA... draft is not even two weeks after the championship”) (34:54).
• Rosenberg reflects: “There’s always the people that the minute it’s over, have to be the jump ahead... and go, ‘well, you know, they’re not going to repeat.’” (34:19)

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8. World Cup, Soccer Culture, and Name Pronunciation

Timestamps: (23:05–25:50, 36:10–39:09, 44:07–47:11)

• In-depth jokey debate over why the U.S. struggles to get international names right and why “stoppage time” in soccer confounds American fans.
• They discuss how athletes sometimes “take back” their correct name pronunciations after years of mispronunciation.

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9. Player Mobility, Power, and Small Markets

Timestamps: (47:11–50:31)

• Discussion about soccer stars’ perspectives on playing in the U.S., and how “ambition has no limits in this country.”
• Brief talk about the Hockey Hall of Fame class and how player empowerment and market appeal are changing the pro sports landscape.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Rosenberg on family:
  “That was my happy place. I had so much joy, I didn’t want it to end.” (07:49)

• Han on moving fast after winning:
  "It's Monday that now you've got to make decisions about valuable players." (34:54)

• Don on media rush:
  “This is why athletes hate us... Can you give them two days? Let the city have two days.” (34:15)

• Rosenberg on the Giannis rumors:
  “I am not… on the edge of my seat thinking this is going down any moment.” (17:57)

• Han on Linda Cohn:
  “You cannot work at this company without having her affect you in some way, shape or form.” (13:07)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------| | Father's Day Recap, Family Life | 01:02–10:00 | | Wild West City / Kids’ Nostalgia | 08:04–10:46 | | Mets & Yankees Talk | 11:12–12:30 | | World Cup/Soccer/“Turkey” Naming | 11:12–13:31, 23:05–25:26 | | Linda Cohn Retirement/Media Reflections | 12:33–13:51, 31:26–32:31 | | Giannis Rumors & Knicks Offseason Moves | 13:51–23:05 | | Overanalyzing After a Parade – Can Fans Enjoy a Title? | 31:58–35:16 | | Tradition & Name Pronunciation in Sports | 23:05–25:50, 44:07–47:11 | | Player Mobility & Hall of Fame Inductions | 47:11–50:31 |

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Tone & Dynamics

True to form, the trio mix genuine sports analysis, personal storytelling, and playful banter. They move fluidly from “dad stuff” to in-depth hoops speculation, never afraid to question the media or mock their own madness as sports obsessives. The show is energetic, humorous, and self-aware—making you feel like you’re right there at the table with three New York sports lifers.

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For listeners catching up:

• Expect lively Knicks analysis, skepticism about seismic NBA trades, and a reminder of the whiplash New Yorkers face when celebrating a long-awaited title.
• The episode is as much about how we experience sports as about “what happens next”—delivering both local flavor and larger questions about players, media, and fanhood.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Don]

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[Han]

Don cool man.

[Rosenberg]

Han, Don holding his hammer.

[Don]

And Rosenberg Rapug Don doesn't hold a candle to that pumpkin pie haircutting freak.

[Han]

This isn't North Dakota. This is New York.

[Rosenberg]

This is Don, Han and Rosenberg. The best threesome I've ever heard on ESPN New York and streaming live on

[Han]

YouTube 301 to the big city. Don, Han and Rosenberg till 6:30. Then it's Mets, Cubs at Citi Field.

[Rosenberg]

That used to be a thing as

[Han]

there was a stir in the room.

[Rosenberg]

After all we've been through, Mets, Cubs,

[Han]

Mets, Yankees didn't give us much over the weekend. Father's Day was, from a sports perspective, not much. But from an actual day, had a tremendous time. All three of us are fathers now, so we all hopefully had a great day. Hopefully all the fathers out there did as well. We get our one day and then it's just back to normal. That's it.

[Don]

Listen, the day had ups. The day had downs.

[Han]

Really, there were downs.

[Don]

We have a lot of work to do at our Long island situation.

[Rosenberg]

Gotcha.

[Don]

Because when we moved recently, remember I moved back to my old house, we dumped everything. You ever done that move where you go, I got to do something with this stuff and you just dump it in one place.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, that's.

[Don]

So now, in order for us to enjoy the place this summer, we now have to face the fact that. That we dumped basically an apartment and a half worth of stuff into a house that was already full of stuff.

[Rosenberg]

Now you got to go through it.

[Don]

So yesterday, even though it was Father's Day and I would have liked to have done nothing, some work had to be done. But the day ended with Natalie serving me the. Calm down, Al.

[Rosenberg]

Could have left it right there.

[Don]

With Natalie serving me.

[Rosenberg]

Could have left it right there.

[Don]

The most delicious double cheeseburger like you dream about.

[Caller]

Wow.

[Don]

A double smash burger with jalapeno lettuce, pickles, ketchup, homemade fries, and then made me some delightful, very feminine beverage. It was like guava nectar seltzer and rum. And she even skewered some pieces of fig and gave me a little decorative drink. I drank it. I ate my double cheeseburger like A gentleman. And I felt like a man. I felt like a king as I ate that burger. And that was the highlight. That was the high, the low was carrying crap and doing all the things that we do every day. But you know what? I like Dadding. Although I will say on Father's Day the first time, that I did not get to Maya in time. And she fell head first off the bed. Oh, on Father's Day.

[Han]

Not right of Pat. Not on Father's Day.

[Don]

But I wouldn't have liked that. I always think of you, and I thought. I thought, it could have been worse. We have a very low bed. I believe when Marco fell off, it was like off a changing table, right?

[Han]

No, no, he fell off the bed.

[Don]

It was bad, but it was.

[Han]

It's yours.

[Don]

Your beds a sizable.

[Han]

Yeah, ours is quite the fall.

[Don]

Ours is very low.

[Rosenberg]

Listen.

[Don]

But she tumbled. She did a stroke when I got to her, I went. I was still half asleep, and I was like, oh. And as I got to her and I looked over the edge of the bed, she was laying completely flat. She did a full tumble, screaming. So she made it, like, a quick little bit quick.

[Rosenberg]

So then you're good. Here's the thing. What you don't want is for things like that to happen when they're old enough to remember it. And then every Father's Day goes. You remember that time when you let me fall?

[Don]

Trust me, on Father's Day.

[Rosenberg]

That's the thing. That's when you know you're in trouble, like 4 years old. Forget it. They'll talk about that for the rest of their lives.

[Don]

Oh, no, she didn't remember. Ten minutes, please.

[Rosenberg]

This is nothing.

[Don]

No, she got a treat.

[Rosenberg]

Don't even worry about it.

[Don]

All right, good.

[Rosenberg]

Don't even worry.

[Han]

I told twice Marco felt Jalen ever did. The first time, he was barely maybe a month or two old.

[Don]

Oh, my God. That's scary.

[Han]

And they always tell you not to do it, but it's still the greatest feeling in the world where he's laying on my chest in bed and just. And I'm out. And then I'm out, and all of a sudden I feel. He just slips and falls.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Han]

And you don't know where you are. And he starts crying, but you know, everything's fine. Eyes are not dilated. Another one was, like, maybe a month later. Oh, God, I'm leaving the bat. He's on the bed in this moment. He's at the edge of the bed, and he's smiling, and I'm like, I don't know what to do. Do I run and startle him and he makes some moving falls, or do I slowly creep? And before I made my decision, I just say, whoops, and again cried for a second. But it's a rugged floor. It's okay. But still, at the time, I was a little nervous. You're like, what kind of father am I that I'm letting my child fall now? Certain things happen now at eight and a half, I said, maybe it was because of the fall.

[Don]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

I doubt it.

[Don]

But it's probably diagnosed with toughen them up.

[Rosenberg]

Toughen them up.

[Han]

Yeah. No. Well, date. This is the one at the top of the stairs. Hey, look, dad. And all of a sudden, I'm catching a three year old because he wants to jump off the stairs.

[Rosenberg]

Well, my father's day was all about two things. One, getting sober, which my kids were, like, laughing at me for the last couple of days because they just were enjoying the fact that dad was just all in.

[Don]

You were on one all in from Friday and Saturday.

[Rosenberg]

From Thursday.

[Don]

From Thursday.

[Caller]

Mm.

[Don]

You were on one.

[Rosenberg]

Just stayed on it.

[Han]

Wow.

[Rosenberg]

Yes. Decided like, I'm on this wave. I'm not getting off you.

[Don]

You say you're seeing the players. They're having a good time.

[Rosenberg]

I was like, I want to do that.

[Don]

Why didn't you go on ig live like Mikhail Bridges?

[Rosenberg]

I thought about it. They took the phone from me at one point.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

But I just. But then, of course, Sunday was Father's Day. And also, as you guys know, this is the week rings in. Oh, doors coming Thursday, and you got

[Han]

a draft to prepare for it.

[Rosenberg]

Michael's coming Wednesday, and he's already gonna. So we had to empty the room.

[Don]

Oh, so you had worked and it's

[Rosenberg]

not a small room.

[Han]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

Stephanie's like, well, you're leaving because I'm in Brooklyn now for the next couple days for the NBA draft. And so this was the only day to do it. So it's like Father's day. But we got to work, so I had to work.

[Don]

Did you have, like, a dinner, though? Did you do some sort of celebration?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Zach made delicious burgers.

[Don]

Which kids were around?

[Rosenberg]

All of them?

[Don]

All of everyone.

[Rosenberg]

I had the whole. This is the best joy. Didn't get a gift. Didn't want one because I just wanted everybody home. And everybody was there, even Emma.

[Han]

Wow.

[Rosenberg]

Emma stayed. Instead of going back to her apartment, she stayed over in the house. That's good.

[Don]

Where does she stay when she stays over?

[Caller]

No.

[Rosenberg]

Gracie's room or couch or Couch.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And sometimes prefers the couch because the dogs, like, cuddle up with her, and she loves that.

[Don]

Got it. But you had everybody in the house.

[Rosenberg]

Everybody.

[Don]

Oh, that's the dream. You're living the dream.

[Rosenberg]

Are you kidding me? Like I said, Saturday night, sat there and you know all you need, because it's with Zach's girlfriend, with Elena, it's like four girls. And then it's me and Zach, and I'm like, buddy, we need two things. Little alcohol and some music. And this is gonna happen. Next thing you know, you know what happens?

[Don]

Party.

[Rosenberg]

They sing, they dance. You just sit back and let it go. And it's so much fun. They had a blast. Just playing different songs. Old music, new music. Doesn't matter.

[Don]

Look at the.

[Rosenberg]

Till midnight. Stephanie, after a while, was like, the neighbors are gonna get upset. I'm like, they're.

[Announcer]

They.

[Rosenberg]

They don't care.

[Don]

Wait, come on. You were partying like that the whole Han so much and all.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, we had a great time.

[Don]

A real hananol.

[Rosenberg]

A hananol.

[Han]

Yeah. How about that?

[Rosenberg]

That was my happy place. I had so much joy, I didn't want it to end. And then Sunday morning, woke up, had to work off the, you know, little. Little bit of a headache, and then got to work.

[Don]

You gotta take the Advil and drink the water before bed.

[Rosenberg]

Sunglasses and Advil.

[Han]

You gotta stay hydrated.

[Rosenberg]

No, just hydrated.

[Han]

And my tradition. I think it's four years now, Father's Day at Wild West City. I sent you the pictures.

[Don]

A tradition unlike any pictures.

[Han]

Are no different than they've been. The kids grow. The big feature was Abraham Lincoln was there yesterday.

[Rosenberg]

I thought it was Dan Orlofsky.

[Don]

By the way, you gave Orlovsky a couple inches. He's a tall guy, but that Lincoln was huge.

[Rosenberg]

Was he?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Don]

No, he looked very.

[Han]

If you're under six' three, don't even bother the three of us. Only Alan could audition.

[Rosenberg]

He was very Abe.

[Don]

You know, Alan could pull off Abe.

[Han]

Yeah, he could definitely pull.

[Don]

Wasn't Abe 65.

[Han]

I don't. I could look it up. I don't know. But it was. It's always fun. It was a beautiful.

[Don]

Marco is so committed to this. Glasses.

[Rosenberg]

You know what, though? I love it.

[Don]

No, he's got these. So Marco wears these, like, reflective, multicolored goggins. Yeah, they look like glasses a ball player would be wearing or. That's all I can really picture is a ball.

[Han]

Yeah, because he is. He's definitely ball player.

[Don]

So is that. So is that like. Is that Part of why he loves them.

[Han]

Yes.

[Don]

It's almost like his. I'm a ball player all the time.

[Rosenberg]

He has them all the time. It makes people look at him go, oh, you must play ball.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

You know what I mean? Like that's what it is.

[Don]

So they're all there at Wild West City. He's just sitting there looking like he's about to take bp.

[Han]

Yeah, he's ready. If a game had broken out of like some old timey baseball, you know, where the rules were different, he would have just jumped out, keep batting gloves

[Rosenberg]

in his back pocket just in case.

[Don]

Now they still enjoy Wild West City.

[Han]

Yeah. And Declan is going to be 11 in August, my nephew. So he's, he still loves it. So that gives me kind of a guy that I might have two or three more years of this guy. I love it. It's nostalgic for me, but what does

[Don]

everyone do at Wild West City? Pretend you're. You never been there and you have no idea what the hell it is. What, what exactly are you doing there?

[Han]

Well, they got different bits. They, they've got the shootout at the OK Corral. First thing you do is you go to the general store and pay about $200 worth of guns and, and the caps and the hats and now that new thing, a harmonica, which I had to hear all the way home. Harmonica.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, harmonica.

[Han]

Harmonica. The way Jalen's been saying it now, I all of a sudden forgot how to pronounce it because when he said

[Rosenberg]

it this some kind of twist on our Monica.

[Don]

I don't know her Monica.

[Rosenberg]

It's her.

[Don]

His and hers.

[Rosenberg]

It's not his Monica.

[Don]

No.

[Han]

So. And then you go out and they're, they're, they're shooting at each other. And then they, they form a posse and they get the criminals and they've got a, they have a shootout there and, and you go on a stagecoach and then that gets robbed. Does it go on the train and that gets robbed.

[Rosenberg]

It's very Clark Griswold.

[Don]

I was about to say, does it give, does it give any of the vibes when Clark Griswold takes the family. See that, Clark?

[Han]

Good work.

[Don]

She's deaf. Hey, you, underpants. Oh, honey, they love this.

[Han]

It opened in 1957. I went when I was a kid. So it's, it's nostalgic and they love it and it's so great. And it closes at five and we're there and it's great. It's a lot of fun. But we've got a big show only until 6:30 because we got the Mets. We'll recap the weekend that was for the Mets and the Yankees. Not great because now with the Knicks being done, our only thing really in progress right now until camps open in the NFL and is baseball. And the Yankees are still in first.

[Rosenberg]

The US Just win. Win their pool that they.

[Don]

They, sir, are leading the pack. They have advanced. It's official. They will play around a 32. They have not been losing for one moment.

[Han]

But I think we'll get. We'll get there.

[Don]

No. Didn't we give one up? Wasn't the first one four one?

[Han]

Was it four one three nothing?

[Don]

Yeah, it was four one.

[Han]

So they've been great. We'll see how deep we can go into this thing. They've still got one more game against Turkey which is meaningless. They might actually rest a lot of players because a lot of people struggling.

[Rosenberg]

By the way, why are they calling it Turkey?

[Don]

A lot of people struggling with the spelling. I didn't know the announcer kept saying

[Rosenberg]

it like in that way too.

[Don]

No, they didn't.

[Rosenberg]

The announcer was literally saying it like Turkey or something like that. Not Turkey. I'm not joking.

[Han]

I missed that.

[Rosenberg]

I had the game on watching because it's now. You know why kid from Long Island's on the team now. I'm always.

[Don]

He's on the Turkish team.

[Rosenberg]

All in. No US Team.

[Don]

The US Team got it.

[Rosenberg]

God bless them. All in now.

[Han]

But there'll be a place for it. But I'm just saying a lot of terms of the local sports that even when the World cup is over, we're going to have baseball. And right now the Mets are. I've been saying they've been cooked forever. We're approaching the midway point. There's still a very average team that is under.500 because of their bad start. Yankees need a catcher. Although I'm hearing that they're going to get more starting pitching.

[Rosenberg]

No, they're not.

[Han]

I don't. I don't understand that.

[Rosenberg]

Don't listen to any of that.

[Han]

But there's still. And also I want to mention this. We found out before we went on the air that Linda Cohen, who's been with ESPN since 1992, announced her retirement. It's gonna be effective at the end of the month and she is gonna join us at 5:30. You cannot work at this company without having her affected you in some way, shape or form. Because she was one of those rare people, and I say rare like Mike Greenberg that cared about what's happening in New York because she's a New Yorker and she came out to the Sasso softball and when the Rangers were making their runs, she was at all the games. And there were times when I called games. This was like so surreal for me. There were times I did play by play and Linda did the pre and post. She loved the Rangers so much that she would volunteer if we needed somebody to do the pre and post on radio. This is a television legend, Peter. I'm aware that would do pre and post. You know, in the game, I'm like, this is, this is not right.

[Rosenberg]

I understand this though, because I have said this about the Islanders. I was like, if this. I think if you ever needed someone, I'll do it. I'm dead serious.

[Sponsor]

Like.

[Rosenberg]

Like, I understand her passion for it. I think it's awesome.

[Han]

That's all it was, but wasn't for the money.

[Rosenberg]

But don't think about it again. Like, she loves it so much that it's like, I just want to do that for fun. Yeah, right.

[Don]

Like, that's all it is.

[Han]

It was really cool. It was when they went to the finals in 14, when they went to the conference final, won the President's Trophy 2015. She just wanted to be close to the team. She was still living here in New York before she moved out to Los Angeles. And she loves hockey so much that even out on the west coast, she was doing stuff for the Seattle Kraken. Like she really just loves hockey. And she's going to join us coming up at 5:30. We've got our weekend update or weekend recap. That's going to be coming up at 4:30, although we did a lot of it in the open. But this Giannis thing has got me thinking that there's still Knicks in the air because now that we move on from the championship celebration, the question becomes, can they repeat or is this just going to be a one and done situation? Then obviously you take a look at how, you know, Boston's got a chance to retool, Indiana's getting Halliburton back. You've got teams like Detroit that certainly proved a lot in the regular season how good they can be. So there's pitfalls right now that exist. But now the talk. Sean's reported that he could be dealt Giannis before the draft, which is tomorrow. That's why we don't have Allen on Wednesday and Thursday because of his coverage of the draft. And you're hearing the Heat, you're hearing the Celtics, this mystery team, but him being dealt away from Milwaukee to Another team in the east guys could certainly affect their chances of repeating. But you're a little dubious on this.

[Rosenberg]

I'm very dubious on this. And by the way, the whole Nick thing, it's actually the Knicks story continues now because today's a very important day. And Nick for the Knicks, because it's when Jose Alvarado can now pick up his player option for next year. That's not nothing because if he doesn't goes into free agency, it adds to a very busy off season that they got to figure out how they're going to make all this money work. So haven't heard yet about Alvarado picking up the player option for next season or would the Knicks try to do something, extend them. But you know, they love him. So there's that. And then there's of course, June 30, which is they can still extend Mitchell Robinson to avoid having him go into free agency. So there's time also for that. So there's a lot of things to watch here on the Knicks front. But this story is also something to watch because as we know, Giannis wanted to play for the Knicks. The Knicks passed last year and that was a bit of a gamble. And then it ended up paying off because they want a championship, which I still can't believe I'm saying so casually, like I just did, but I'll say it one more time. So the Knicks won a championship, and so therefore their gamble paid off. But now Giannis knows, okay, they're not breaking that team up. I'm not going there. That dream's over.

[Han]

Right?

[Rosenberg]

So he still wants to move on. The Bucks don't want to trade him. I'm going to keep saying it. The, the new owner that came in, what the Brown zoner, is it Haslam, right?

[Han]

I think you're right.

[Rosenberg]

Doesn't like, he's the one that's like, wants something done here. He wants a resolution with this situation one way or another. And they looked at the draft as the deadline because this is how you can get draft picks. And this is a very good draft. So that's why this is sense of a deadline right now. But you're also not making a bad move if you're the Bucks. You can't do that. They don't love Miami's offers. Miami's been trying to get Giannis guys since the trade deadline and they just keep talking and there's really nothing. The Bucks, like you probably are going to need a couple of teams to help out to make a deal happen with that in mind, the Boston side of this, Brad Stevens, it just doesn't feel like his kind of move to blow up a team like that and change the way you play. Trust me, you're going to have to change the way you play. If you move and you bring in Giannis, Dennis Kumpo, especially if you're moving on from Jaylen Brown, you're a different team now. I don't know if you're a better team either, to be honest with you. I don't. I can't say they are because I'd have to see what else you're putting around him.

[Han]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

And now what's at the guard position, which is, we know, a critical position. So I feel like as much as there's momentum or a sense of something's coming soon, I know the wording that Sean said is engaged in serious talks and that Boston and Miami are the two main teams. But I'll tell you what, not saying that it's not happening, but I'm saying that I am not. Like, I'm not on the edge of my seat thinking this is going down any moment. I think tomorrow, because it's draft day, there's a sense of urgency with the picks you could get. And that, to me, is still going to be the swing who's willing to take the swing. But I don't know if Miami has the Bucks that interested in anything they have to offer. Jalen Brown certainly is something you'd be. You'd be interested in. But it just. For me, Brad Stevens, that just doesn't seem like a type of move that he would make. I'd be very surprised. Others I've talked to are also saying the same thing. But it doesn't mean it isn't happening, because with the Knicks winning a title, the Celtics, as you know up in Boston, that's not sitting well up there.

[Caller]

No.

[Rosenberg]

So they know they've got to do something.

[Don]

I just. I just don't understand. They've won a championship with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. And they got to a finals with them, too.

[Don]

And yet every year the conversation has been publicly, what are they going to do? What more do you need to do? Did you see what they did last year without Tatum yet? Didn't work out in the playoffs when you got there, frankly, why didn't it work? Because of the commitment to the way. To the way you guys play.

[Rosenberg]

And also, you had no big men. They were awful. You can't play that way.

[Don]

No size whatsoever.

[Rosenberg]

And Derek White didn't play well.

[Don]

So Derek White missed every big shot. You're right. You have no size whatsoever.

[Rosenberg]

And they like who.

[Don]

And that being said, you've won a title. Why are you. What's the desperation to break these guys up?

[Rosenberg]

Peter, I'm telling you, it's crazy. I'm looking at it like I would try to find. Can I get Miles Turner? Can I get. I just need a. I need a decent big man. Porzingis worked there. That's exactly how they want to play.

[Don]

That's it.

[Rosenberg]

Turner's the right kind of fit in that situation. You could do more, doing less, if that makes sense than a massive swing like this, bringing in a 32 year old who demands the ball, who's not a perimeter threat, and then Jayson Tatum, like that's what you're going to build with. So now you have a 3 and a 4 instead of having a guard and a wing. Right? That's what I'm trying to figure out here. And then what? Now you have to find a big man who stretches the floor because if you have what you have right now, that's not going to work. Nimus Keda, how's that working?

[Don]

That's. That's Nemus Cater to you and me.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, but he's not going to stretch the floor. So now you got Giannis, who doesn't stretch the floor, and then Cato doesn't switch. What are you doing? So that's why I. I don't know how this works. I'm skeptical. But I'm not saying it's not happening, because I do know up in Boston, this championship in New York did not sit well up there.

[Han]

But if he doesn't go anywhere, what can Milwaukee do to make it work? And how much of a threat could they end up being?

[Rosenberg]

What do you mean by Milwaukee?

[Han]

If you're saying that Giannis is not going to get dealt.

[Rosenberg]

I'm not saying he's not getting dealt. Like I said, the urgency of before the draft is coming from like, Miami. They want him. They want to get him. They know he'll sign an extension. They're all in because Miami also is realizing that they've been in, also ran now here for a couple of years. And they need to change up their whole. What they're doing down there. You could see it. And so they also don't have enough to make a deal because the Bucks would have already done a deal with Miami. They would have already done a deal with Miami if they liked anything that they were offering. So he's probably going to get moved I still think the Bucks would rather keep him and say to him, we can offer you way more than everybody else, and we just have to keep finding ways to build a better team around.

[Han]

So that's my question is then what can they do and how long will it take? Because I'm just trying to assess the landmines for the Knicks and their chances of repeating. So I think let's have that conversation.

[Rosenberg]

Well, you're going to again, you're going to deal with a healthier. Let's not forget about the Pacers.

[Han]

They're going to get healthy back.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

You're going to deal with that. They're going to be way better. You're going to deal with. I would have Boston as is just finding themselves a stretch. Five would have been a threat anyway. I mean, that's all that was. 58 win team. They were going to be good. Like they're going to be a threat. I don't know what the Sixers are. No idea. Orlando, Detroit and Charlotte are all those young teams that want the right direction up. And you just got to deal. So the threat to the Knicks was already there. But to me, I don't think this trade is going to create a juggernaut that no one can beat. Okay, this is not about Giannis. This is just about what's left around a team that makes a trade for Giannis because you're get. You got to give up a lot now.

[Han]

Kofi, who's our show statistician? Our man, 50 grand.

[Rosenberg]

He's our unofficial show statistician.

[Han]

He tweeted out that Turkey officially changed itself name Turkey Yay. In 2022, and the UN officially recognized that new name. So it's correct to say that country. See, I wasn't hearing this.

[Rosenberg]

I wasn't that drunk.

[Don]

Is that like the beginning of the Baby Boy by Beyonce when Sean Paul goes a turkey. Now, forget, that's a terrible dad joke and I'd like to rescind it. Jacob, you got to at least make.

[Han]

No, it's out there.

[Caller]

Thank you.

[Rosenberg]

Too late.

[Han]

He found it very funny.

[Rosenberg]

He did laugh.

[Han]

There was a guilt laugh he had.

[Rosenberg]

You think that was what he was

[Han]

trying to stuff it back down his throat. But he certainly laughed. So you got him.

[Don]

I think he says a dutier.

[Rosenberg]

It is a dirty A.

[Don]

He says a dutty A. Yeah. Talking about himself. But no, I saw that is funny. I heard people debating it. This just. Just goes to show you, I love Ebro. He just makes things up because I was saying I've never seen this in my life today. I said this.

[Rosenberg]

Never seen what?

[Don]

Turkey. Never seen my life. I've never seen Turkey. And I thought maybe they became such big fans of Kanye in the modern era, they just added yay to the end, like turkey plus yay, turkey. I was saying I've never seen it in my life. I was today years old and Ebro's like, no, that's just how you, like, write it. Write the name of the country.

[Rosenberg]

I'm like, did you watch.

[Don]

I don't think that's true.

[Rosenberg]

Did you watch the US Australia game?

[Han]

I did.

[Rosenberg]

Because the referencing that the. I don't know. I'm forgetting the point.

[Don]

That was the beginning of it. Yeah. They started.

[Rosenberg]

He was talking about how, like, whatever the game coming up. And he kept saying it that way. I'm going turkey. Like, why is he doing that? Is he trying to be like. He's trying to say it in the native tongue or something like that. Like, sometimes people do that.

[Don]

So. So. So you're saying it always was turkey, and when it was Turkey, it was spelled like the animal or the food. Turkey.

[Han]

Yeah.

[Don]

And then as of 2022, they changed the name of the country to Turkey the same way. Czech can't even make up their mind. Let's. Let's just change it. No checks. Check. I got to be honest. You guys have a real brand problem. They were. We grew up. It was Czechoslovakia.

[Announcer]

All right.

[Don]

You split up. Now it's Czech Republic.

[Rosenberg]

Right?

[Don]

They can't even stick with Czech Republic.

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Don]

Now it's Chechy.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe they're not a Chechy.

[Don]

Chechy.

[Rosenberg]

Isn't it Chechya.

[Don]

Now it's Checha. They've had three names during my lifetime.

[Caller]

They have.

[Don]

Bit odd.

[Rosenberg]

One thing they've always had, though. What beautiful women that models that.

[Don]

That is true. A lot of Czech.

[Han]

That's how it all works, right?

[Rosenberg]

Whatever you want, but we can play hockey.

[Don]

But Turkey a never ever did. I know that.

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Han]

This is why the World cup is

[Don]

important, so you can learn, because you

[Han]

find out what other countries are doing. Because most of the time, you don't

[Rosenberg]

even really pay attention.

[Han]

You're not paying attention at all. 1-800-9193776 Want to hear from you. 1-800-9192776 what are the realistic chances the Knicks can repeat? We've got baseball to do as well. But Anthony Pusick needs to tell you something.

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[Rosenberg]

thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Rosenberg]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Han]

1-800-919-3776 forces the number to call with, you know, 630 and that it's Mets baseball. Want to get your thoughts on the chances of the Knicks repeating what's going to happen with Giannis? Report is he's going to be traded by tomorrow to either Miami, Boston or a mystery team. Allen's not quite sure how it's going to work for either Miami or Boston. Knicks have decisions to make as well. Second apron has been thrown out there a lot and Allen's explained that as far as what the Knicks can do to make sure that they keep their free agent, try to keep this team intact because that's part of it, right? Like the east is going to be better. Halliburton's going to be back in Indiana. Boston will retool in some way. I think Detroit can learn from what happened and be better. Where's Orlando? Are they going to grow and get better as a team? What will Miami do if they don't get Giannis? How are they going to pivot? Plus, the west isn't going away. San Antonio is going to be, I think a year better with the experience. West is better anyway. So whoever comes out of the west is going to be daunting. And I know it sounds can we just enjoy the championship? But this is kind of where we pivot. The parade happened on Thursday. You had another weekend to enjoy it. I'm sure for Father's Day a lot of people got a lot of Nick swag, I'm sure for Father's Day. And then, and now you enjoy the championship but at the same time you kind of keeping an eyeball on what's next.

[Don]

Can I just say the one thing that did bother me though, and, and, and I hope we can avoid this at least just for a couple more Days. And I'm not trying to be some homer boy, you know, but just as someone who's enjoyed this whole thing. I was moving around because I went to our wonderful Calandras event for the Team USA viewing on Friday, had a great time. Shout out to Kristen Calandra. The whole squad had the calamari. Hung with. Hung with the people. Shout out to Ethan Goldstein. All our other listeners who I met there, met some great people. Really, really lovely. My business manager, Gina was there. I mean, it's like you dream about. Robin Lundberg came by.

[Han]

Really? Wow. When was the last time I saw him?

[Rosenberg]

Strange.

[Announcer]

Paul?

[Don]

Yes.

[Han]

In the radio world and in the ESPN world. He was an important part of all of our lives for a while. And I can't remember the last time

[Don]

I saw him at an ESPN thing. I remember him and I, we had a crossover here for like a year or two that not much longer than that. So it might have been a Christmas party in like 16. Like that he had any affiliation here. But he's, of course, doing a great job. He's at Sports Illustrator for a long time now. I told you guys, you're writing the book on Caitlin Clark. And his WNBA content has really taken off. He found his sweet spot covering the wnba.

[Han]

That's the last time I saw him. What was on TV at the airport? Because they would always have. Cause Sports Illustrated always had those, like, sports minutes or something. They would pop up on some random TVs like @newark Airport, and I'm waiting for a flight, and I'd say, hey, it's Robin. I gotta reach out.

[Don]

So he lives. Him and his beautiful family live right down the street from Calandra. So he just popped by, watched the game.

[Han]

Oh, he's in Jersey.

[Don]

Yeah. How about that? Became a Jersey guy

[Han]

into the softball.

[Don]

You were always a Robin guy, right? I think Robin's fond of Don. I think the Robin Michael relationship. Not strong. Not particularly sure.

[Han]

Well, Robin had a lot of John Rothstein in him when it came to NBA. Like, I just remember being in the suite one time, the Knicks were playing the Rockets and we had some sort of a function, and he was like five minutes deep into how the Rockets salary cap worked, and I had to walk away. Like, there. There's times he pushed the relationship into a place that I just didn't feel comfortable. But overall I enjoyed. I like. And plus, he has the same belief as I do about golf.

[Caller]

No.

[Han]

Yes. Whatsoever.

[Rosenberg]

We had.

[Han]

We had the same bonding.

[Don]

So anyways, we're up. Me, Robin Ballard was there. We're all hanging out. We're taking in Zach Linder, a great crew. We're all taking in the game. But on my way there, I was, I was perusing what was going on in the world of Sports Talk. Just 24 hours removed from the glorious parade. And when I was hearing people talk about like the apron, the second apron and the money, and then you start hearing, well, you know, sham. It really wasn't, you know, they can replace salmon. I was just like, can you give. Did these guys earn a full extra 24 hours past the parade?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, no.

[Don]

Where you don't have to talk about who's not, who's expendable on the team that brought. This is why I just want to be clear to those people. This is why athletes hate us. This is why people think sports talk. People are yo yos. Not always just because they want us to be fanboys. Yes, that's the case. Sometimes they are okay with criticism, but when they accomplish the ultimate, the most unexpected and glorious championship that I can remember in maybe any major sport in a very long time and within 24 hours on the local stations here we're going, oh, well, you don't really need this one. We could live with that one. He wasn't great. We'd replace it. It just, it's just give him two days. Let the city have two days.

[Han]

I'm going to fight you on this a little bit on this week.

[Don]

We can start by Friday.

[Han]

Sure.

[Rosenberg]

I have made this prediction many times that the next New York championship, whatever it is, to end this 15 year draf. I said we won't be able to enjoy it because there's always the people that the minute it's over, have to be the jump ahead of everyone and go, well, you know, they're not going to repeat.

[Don]

But I think both.

[Rosenberg]

And here's why they're not going to repeat. It's like, can we have a freaking week?

[Han]

No, but it's okay to. I can enjoy it. But, you know, blame the NBA. It's Monday that now you've got to make decisions about valuable players who. You know, Alvarado was a guy that they were doing specials on in the news about a local. And now a decision has to be made on his future with the Knicks.

[Announcer]

It's his decision.

[Han]

But, but he, but he is going to have to. He's going to make a decision and it's on Monday. Not even two weeks after the championship. The draft is not even two weeks after the championship. I mean, business back.

[Don]

It's a good retort so you got to learn to. Friday. Don would have been fair through Friday. Today's the day.

[Rosenberg]

Today he's talking about Friday.

[Don]

I'm saying Friday.

[Han]

The parade was yesterday.

[Rosenberg]

We're already throwing reminisce on the parade.

[Han]

Thank you, Peter. Monday. That's why I thought today was a fair time to have the conversation. It's been over a week. The par was Thursday. It's time to get going. It's also time for Peter to tell us about Vandal.

[Don]

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[Han]

What?

[Don]

Andrew. Here's a hint. Andrew Gundling's favorite and most predictable thing. This is what Michael was talking about on Friday. Stoppage time in soccer.

[Han]

Oh, really?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, boy.

[Don]

He cannot. It's. It's Donna.

[Han]

Every four years.

[Don]

He. Allen, he's obsessed. But you don't know how much time. Why don't you know the time every four years, like clockwork.

[Rosenberg]

I am, though, at a place, though. Yeah, where we have seen sports make adjustments to modern day. But I think. I think we have the capability of when a player goes down and is hurt to get the exact timing, we can stop the clock.

[Han]

Soccer makes baseball look like a rave.

[Rosenberg]

You know what I mean? He's not wrong.

[Don]

Yeah. But at the same time, at this point, I would just say to Michael, when he goes like, well, why do you do it this way? You know how many things. If you were trying to explain to someone, why four balls, three strikes.

[Rosenberg]

Why?

[Don]

What's a bach?

[Caller]

Why?

[Don]

There's a million whys.

[Rosenberg]

That's different than, you know what? We can't keep the clock.

[Don]

We can't stop It.

[Rosenberg]

So instead of stopping the clock, we're going to add time, but we don't know how many. We're just going to come up with an arbitrary number. But it's six minutes and 30 seconds.

[Don]

Arbitrary to you.

[Rosenberg]

Six minutes.

[Don]

But the.

[Rosenberg]

It's arbitrary to you.

[Don]

But the imperfection is part of the je ne sais quoi, I guess.

[Han]

But it does lend to impropriety, which we've seen in soccer before. All right, because I've been told, and I'm not going to pretend I'm any kind of soccer expert, but I've been told. Maybe it was Andrew who told me that it is a set limit, like six and a half minutes. That's how much time would have gone by had they stopped the clock. Why they can't stop the clock, I don't know.

[Rosenberg]

It doesn't make sense.

[Han]

But I've been told that because it's somewhat arbitrary, that if all of a sudden somebody's rushing on a breakaway and the 6:30 expire, the officials just might let him see him kick the ball to see what happens.

[Don]

Yeah, that's true.

[Han]

But imagine that happening.

[Rosenberg]

There's no hard out.

[Han]

7. Stanley Cup Final buzzer goes off, but he's on a break. Well, let's see if he'd score.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. No hard out.

[Don]

That is true. But that's why. But the point of fighting, and I can't believe now we're actually doing it. I was mocking Michael and now you two are doing it. But no, no, but I would argue. And this is where it kind of ends, in my opinion. It doesn't make sense for other sports, but it is part of what soccer is. Same way the other day they looked at an offsides replay. Offsides replays now in World cup is so counter to the nature of soccer.

[Rosenberg]

It's so true.

[Don]

Like, it's. It's a feel. It's like, no, that's not offside.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Don]

And then they replay. Even with hockey to a certain extent offside, it's like you don't replay it. It's a feel. I could tell. But now they do.

[Rosenberg]

But the fact is, soccer has. It is a big deal now.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Because you really are checking that. But you know what that does, though, when we're doing this? Adds more time.

[Don]

Adds more time. So now stopper time, nine minutes.

[Rosenberg]

But we can't. Because, you know, we're watching this replay. So we can't stop the clock. No, because I can't do two things at once. I gotta watch this replay, let the clock run Let it go.

[Han]

You could set your watch to it. Michael will complain about the clock every World Cup.

[Don]

Yeah. No.

[Han]

And then what does he do during the Olympics? What's his famous quote?

[Don]

Drop something draped in the flag. Commercial is a flag.

[Han]

Commercial isn't draped in a flag. He always brings it.

[Don]

He's.

[Rosenberg]

All right.

[Don]

Go ahead.

[Han]

Go ahead.

[Don]

Let's talk to the people. I'm sorry. We already.

[Han]

Well, we'll do it.

[Don]

Next shot.

[Han]

We'll do it. Coming up next. Next. Damn it. It got away from us.

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[Rosenberg]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Rosenberg]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Han]

All right, we are going to get to the phones at 1-800-919-3776. Linda Cohen's going to join us coming up at 5:30. We got ENN at 6.

[Rosenberg]

6.

[Han]

Let's get to the busy phones to talk to Manny in Flushing. You get things started here on Don on a Rosenberg. What do you got, man?

[Rosenberg]

A what a start. What a start.

[Han]

Manny.

[Rosenberg]

Manny.

[Caller]

Yes, yes, yes. How you doing?

[Don]

What's up?

[Han]

We almost lost you, buddy.

[Caller]

Oh, okay. I'm sorry, man. Listen, look, I think I was right about the Celtics honest thing. I just don't think it is a guarantee that if you bring y' all to the Celtics, he'll be as a contender. And you're probably right in the E because Detroit is going to get better. They probably would get hero with the shooting. Ty Tyrese Cowper is going to be back with him. SE and Z box at the Pacers. And don't look now, Charlotte, because if they would have won that game against the Magic, they probably were in the playoffs instead of missing the playoffs. Well, you're right. I mean, you know, I just don't see Boston like a real, real threat as much as you think they are. And also,

[Rosenberg]

wait, now, don't say they're not a real, real threat. Boston's going to always be a real, real threat. Right? Like, let's not. Let's not get crazy. But I don't know if trading Brown for Giannis, what do they got around him now? I don't know if that makes them like a. I said that doesn't turn them into like the next dynasty where all of a sudden, like, nobody's beating this team. You know what I mean? That's all I'm saying.

[Don]

It's a.

[Rosenberg]

It to me just doesn't feel like a Brad Stevens kind of move. It just doesn't to me.

[Don]

Which part of it do you think is like unstevens, like Al the big

[Rosenberg]

swing, Just the big for a. For a player that doesn't really fit what they do, their style. Now, are they going to now make an about face on how they play? Maybe they.

[Don]

We don't jack anymore. Now we run up and down and try to dunk it.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe this threes, you know, living off the threes thing is not the right idea. Maybe we need to change up the way we play. If that's the case, I gotta see it.

[Han]

Let's go to David and Elizabeth. You're on. Don, Han and Rosenberg. David,

[Rosenberg]

go ahead.

[Han]

One more time. Ready, David? All right. Jonathan in la. You're on espn New York.

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, guys? What's going on, guys? I can't even think about next season. I'm still pinching myself every Morning when I wake up, get it thinking it's all a Jew. Right. You know, so by the way, real, real quick. Yeah. I have, I have a comment about the Turkey situation, but my wife actually, for Father's Day, she gave me the Knicks championship hat. It's back. Ordered all the way to August. So I don't even know when I'm gonna get it.

[Don]

That's probably all.

[Caller]

That's how excited we are.

[Don]

It's, it's, it's unfortunate, the backorder stuff. I got Natalie the final shirt and they had it, I believe, available in the city. If you had gotten to a store, you could have gotten that. She wanted the, you know, Alan, remember the one they were wearing night of the rhinestone one?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don]

She wanted it that night. Natalie loves rhinestones. She loves sparkles. She loves rhinestones. She was like, that's the one. Want it, need it now. Now I go order it. I think it's like September, like it's.

[Rosenberg]

Oh yeah, they can't make them fast.

[Don]

But how is. But like you. I guess they couldn't make them because you don't know which team's gonna win. But like you're just, you think right away you're just printing. Let's go, go, go.

[Rosenberg]

It already has set fanatics record.

[Don]

Yeah, they've never done anything like this

[Rosenberg]

and it hasn't stopped.

[Caller]

Yeah, I went to the, I went to the NBA store and it was, it was sold out right away. So. So hey, on the Turkey. Turkey situation. So Turkey has actually been the official name since the 1920s. It's just with the UN and stuff like that, they just like allowed them to be called Turkey just like to make it easier for like the Anglo people, I guess. But their official name since 1920 has actually been Turkey. And like three years ago they're like, they told the UN and they told like the entire world. They're like, hey, we want to be called by our official name. But so the difference between that and like Czechia, but it is still actually got it.

[Don]

So Chechu is a whole new name. I get it. Turkey is now what they were, but still only since 22. Well, they want to said that's how we expect to be.

[Rosenberg]

We want to be recognized. This like stop calling us Turkey. Yeah, like stop saying that. That's not how you say our country's name.

[Don]

And America. And in America we're like, hey, listen, we already use the word Turkey so many for so many different things. We just want to keep going with Turkey.

[Caller]

Right?

[Don]

Let's talk turkey.

[Rosenberg]

Is hungry. You guys get along, right?

[Caller]

Right?

[Don]

Come on, make it work.

[Han]

I mean, I see something and it's spelled the same, so I end up saying it the same. But I give them credit now when they're showing it, the change in the spelling, like turkey. But listen, it's an education, right?

[Don]

That's right.

[Han]

This happens all the time in hockey where either the guy's name was said wrong so many times, and he gets called up, he says, call me whatever you want.

[Rosenberg]

Right?

[Han]

And then he starts get some game and he's like, you know what? I want my name.

[Rosenberg]

Who was the player that did that recently? Wasn't there. It was either NFL or NHL player. That. That recently happened.

[Han]

Yeah, it happened. The one that it was.

[Rosenberg]

Kofi will get it.

[Han]

Yeah, Kofi will sell it.

[Rosenberg]

There was an athlete, was either NFL or NHL who said it's actually been pronounced wrong. This is how I want to pronounce.

[Don]

Yeah, you're right.

[Han]

And I can't think of exactly.

[Rosenberg]

And we were all like, oh, God.

[Han]

Yeah.

[Caller]

But.

[Han]

But. Because what happens is like, it happened to me when Sakura was in Edmonton. He then wanted to change it to Sekira. So I start calling him Sekira. Then other people didn't get the memo. They're like, you're saying his name wrong. No, I talked to him. He did change it.

[Rosenberg]

He said it was Travis Etienne.

[Don]

Oh, that's right.

[Han]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Everything. It was etn. Then he was just letting it go, and then he finally corrected everybody.

[Han]

Yeah.

[Don]

This last year we talked about this, right? Yeah, we just had this conversation.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's right. That's why it's. It is very.

[Don]

I mean, listen, remember, guys, we're. Our team is basically like the little sisters of the poor. Every team we're playing against, like, half this tournament, the players in the country, they speak three different languages.

[Caller]

Mm.

[Don]

They. They. They live here. They speak the main language of the country, then the language of the neighboring country, and then they all speak English because we're morons. It's basically across the entire world.

[Rosenberg]

But did you see that? Is it Mbappe? Who was it that they talked to about playing in the MLS one day? And he said he talked to either Messi or whoever it was, and he was like, very interesting to him because he said, it's more liberating to play here because you can do so many more things in this country.

[Han]

You're not going to be as recognized.

[Don]

And is there that what he means? Is that what he means, you think from a sheer recognition stand.

[Rosenberg]

I don't Pressure. Now I have to look it up because I want to. I didn't think if you saw it or not.

[Don]

It says. It says Mbappe hinted a move to MLS later in his career might not

[Rosenberg]

be because of the money.

[Don]

He's 27. So when he's 47.

[Rosenberg]

Okay. Well, he said the United States is

[Don]

a different culture from ours. I have always liked this culture where ambition has no limits, where people are not afraid to say what they can and what they want to do.

[Rosenberg]

Ambition has work everywhere. Ambition has no limits in this country. What does that mean?

[Don]

I mean, why would he say that?

[Rosenberg]

Because you like athletes.

[Don]

Athletes in Europe.

[Rosenberg]

What limitations does he have being one of the greatest players in the world?

[Don]

But do those athletes ever become as powerful as an A ROD Or a LeBron James?

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Han]

Or a.

[Rosenberg]

Look at the. He didn't. He just move. Didn't he make a massive.

[Han]

No, no.

[Rosenberg]

They make one club to another.

[Don]

They make massive money. But maybe like what you're afforded, the opportunities you're afforded in Hollywood in creating other businesses in ownership, that's different.

[Han]

Stability. We're seeing it now with Brady Kachuk. We'll get that a little bit later on. Players have the power, by the way, to maneuver out of teams, go different places maybe. I'm sure that's very difficult to do over there.

[Rosenberg]

Big. This is a big couple of days here for the Tkachuk family.

[Han]

Yeah.

[Announcer]

See the news.

[Han]

Keith's going to the hall of Fame.

[Rosenberg]

How about that? What a. What a weekend.

[Don]

Wait, wait. So they.

[Rosenberg]

The Kareni.

[Announcer]

Really?

[Han]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Carrie Price.

[Han]

Yeah. That's a few real deserving guys in there. So Brady's going.

[Don]

It sounds kind of like a meth class to me so far.

[Rosenberg]

What you just mentioned, Patrice Bergeron, does that do a thing? Anything for you.

[Caller]

Sure.

[Don]

I mean, all these are.

[Rosenberg]

You want a cup?

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Don]

These are all good players. There's not. There's not the. Who are you putting on the poster and everyone showing up.

[Han]

Well, fair.

[Rosenberg]

Fair. Who's the headliner, you mean?

[Han]

Yeah, well, the headliner will be Keith. For how long he waited to get in.

[Rosenberg]

Okay. Walt, to you and me, Kerry Price.

[Han]

It's just. I always feel like it's not dead sexy.

[Don]

Kerry Price. Not like you dream about.

[Han]

No, because of the player, though, and the way that it wanted it.

[Rosenberg]

It was very good. But, yeah, fell off.

[Han]

But we'll get into the Kachuk thing just from the standpoint of when players get power, you know, as much as we're trying, with the possibility of a salary cap to save the smaller market teams. There's some let's, let's face it, there's ugly and there's pretty and there's gorgeous. And that's kind of the way it works in professional sports and markets, right? There's some markets that are dead sexy, and some markets are like, bring a coat. And when these players begin to get power, you just wonder if some of those markets are going to wither away because nobody is literally going to want to play there.

[Rosenberg]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don]

I don't want to know how the

[Rosenberg]

sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8

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