Hour 1: Giants Super Bowl Chances

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 1: Giants Super Bowl Chances

Date: February 10, 2026
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This high-energy episode centers on a spirited debate: Which New York team is most likely to win the next championship? The trio dives deep into the Giants' Super Bowl prospects following John Harbaugh’s hire, compares the championship outlook for the Knicks, Yankees, Islanders, and Mets, and explores fans’ persistent hope—and skepticism—regarding New York sports. In classic Don, Hahn & Rosenberg fashion, the banter overflows with wit, friendly jabs, and a segue into the agony and glory of making musical “best of” lists.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cuddle, Marry, Trash: Who’s Next to Win a New York Championship?

[02:18-12:46]

• The hosts riff off the game "Cuddle, Marry, Trash,” ranking the Knicks, Yankees, and Giants in terms of who’s closest to winning a title.

• The debate is sparked by Dave Rothenberg’s surprising pick of the Giants as his “marry”—the team most likely to bring New York its next championship, despite recent struggles.

  Key arguments:

  • The Giants:
    • Newfound optimism thanks to new head coach John Harbaugh and young QB Jackson Dart.
    • “If you’ve got the quarterback and the coach, then I think you'd be red hot.” – Alan Hahn [03:20]
    • The Giants have proven they “occasionally get it right,” referencing past Super Bowl wins even amid years of dysfunction.
    • Vegas' over/under moved from 4 wins to 8.5 with Harbaugh—“that’s a major, major piece to land.” – Don La Greca [08:45]
  • The Yankees:
    • Always talented, judged by high standards—haven’t won since 2009, but regularly make deep runs.
    • “The Yankees have a really good roster. We know they're always going to be there every year and I've seen them win before.” – Alan Hahn [13:42]
  • The Knicks:
    • Consistent heartbreak, but a strong roster this year and the East is wide open.
    • “The Knicks could arguably be the favorite in the east right now…Why would they not be the most likely? Except for the fact that we just think they're the Knicks, they won't win.” – Peter Rosenberg [13:13]
  • Wildcard: Islanders & Mets:
    • The Isles—with elite goalie Sorokin and rising stars—could be surprising contenders: “They have a goalie, which is all you need most of the time.” – Alan Hahn [16:23]
    • Mets praised for not “running it back,” making bold stylistic changes after a mediocre season.

2. The Impact of John Harbaugh & Giants Outlook

[03:19-07:25 | 08:45-12:46]

• Harbaugh’s arrival is seen as transformative. The team’s leadership is trusted, despite years of dysfunction.
• Peter remains the group’s Giants skeptic: “The quarterback…still a lot remains to be seen. I maintain that. And that's the biggest piece.” [07:32]
• Contrasts in fan perspective—reminded by past Giants playoff runs, but wary that “you still are pieces away from being that kind of team.” – Don [06:00]
• There’s consensus: expecting a Giants Super Bowl in five years isn’t “preposterous,” provided the QB pans out.

3. History, Hope, and New York Sports' Burdens

[12:46–17:09 | 24:40–27:53]

• Decades-long championship droughts haunt most New York teams, affecting fans’ hope and pundits’ predictions.
• For the Yankees, “2009 feels like 1909. Right. Because they're supposed to win more often.” – Don [26:18]
• The Mets and Islanders, while not favorites, are never out of the conversation—especially with baseball’s unpredictability.
• “Baseball is the one sport…there's too many variables…if you have that kind of talent, there's a chance in baseball.” – Alan [26:59]

4. Extended Game: “Cuddle, Marry, Trash... Side Piece?”

[17:09–22:00]

• The hosts joke about adding more categories to the Cuddle, Marry, Trash game (“cheat with,” “side piece,” etc.), showing their irreverent, humorous style.
• Alan: “We gotta reinvent a different game... would the Islanders be the cheat with?” [17:09]
• A tongue-in-cheek debate, hinting at fans’ secret (or not-so-secret) soft spots for certain NY teams.

5. Listener Calls & Alternate Perspectives

[28:21–33:28]

• Danny from Long Island defends the Knicks as likeliest to win a title, citing their playoff proximity and questioning Giants optimism: “Let’s have a successful second season before we start paying them in.” [29:17]
• The hosts clarify that the real question is about a five-year window, not immediate results: “I think people are misunderstanding the game.” – Don [30:13]
• The conversation emphasizes that with the Giants, “it’s not supposed to (take a while) ... they're going to be better. How good, how soon? That remains to be seen.” – Alan [32:26]

6. Banter Detour: Assembling The Top 5 Rock Songs of All Time

[21:18–48:55]

• The episode shifts in its latter half to playful, heated debate: what are the “top five rock songs of all time?” This absorbs fans and hosts alike.
• Don sets the criteria: No repeat artists, must be universally recognized and influential.
• The discussion touches on Guns N’ Roses (“Sweet Child O’ Mine,” “Welcome to the Jungle”), Nirvana, The Beatles, Eagles, Rolling Stones, and more.
• Memorable moment: “If an alien lands and says, what's rock sound like? That's definitely a song you could play.” – Peter, on “Welcome to the Jungle” [38:30]
• Spirited bickering over which songs “count,” when rock “died,” how older songs age, and whether “In Da Club” belongs in the hip-hop version.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Giants' Super Bowl Prospects & John Harbaugh

• Alan: “If we fast forward five years from now, like, what are you doing? You got the best coach available. You got a coach with a resume. You got a coach that has a ring on his finger. You got a coach that's done nothing but win. And you have a young quarterback that everybody's excited about.” [03:34]
• Don: “They do eventually go, I don't know how many rotations of the earth it takes or whatever, but at some point... They trip into one.” [05:10]
• Peter: “The quarterback... still a lot remains to be seen. I maintain that. And that's the biggest piece.” [07:32]
• Alan: On Vegas moving the Giants' over/under to 8.5: “So they're saying that John Harbaugh at minimum is worth four wins. So that's a major, major piece to land.” [08:45]

Cuddle, Marry, Trash Game & NY Sports Frustration

• Don (on Yankees): “If I played cuddle marriage I should play right now. I would have the Yankees as the team I married... I probably would cuddle the Giants and trash the Knicks. Only because... history and the fact that there are clearly better teams than the Knicks out West.” [11:04]
• Peter: “I just feel like to just go with the Yankees is lazy... It's sort of like Don's argument about when people just say the jets are going to lose because they're the Jets.” [12:46]
• Alan: “We're not saying the Yankees just because of the Yankees. We're saying the Yankees because looking at their roster, they have one of the most talented teams in the sport.” [13:30]
• Caller Danny (Long Island): “Let’s have a successful second season before we start paying them in.” [29:17]

Top Five Rock Songs Banter

• Don: “One rule that I gave myself for the list. No repeat bands. I want five songs from five different bands or people.” [38:16]
• Peter: “If an alien lands and says, what's rock sound like? That's definitely a song you could play.” [38:30]
• Alan: “You've got to back it with relevance, facts. Like, why is this one of the greatest songs of all time? And it's got to be song that everybody knows, everybody has an opinion of. It's been used in movies, it's been used in commercials. Its relevancy cannot be questioned.” [39:16]
• Peter (on Guns N’ Roses): “Paradise City is definitely a stripper song.” [41:25]
• Don (on Nirvana): “There's no way Guns N' Roses is making my top five. Nowhere near ahead of Nirvana. You can't do that.” [43:19]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:18] — Jump-off: Cuddle, Marry, Trash for NY Sports Titles
• [03:19] — Case for the Giants post-Harbaugh
• [06:00] — Giants’ current roster needs and realistic optimism
• [08:45] — Vegas odds and Harbaugh’s immediate impact
• [12:46] — “It’s lazy to pick the Yankees?” and franchise histories
• [16:23] — Islanders and Mets enter the conversation
• [21:18] — Upcoming “Top 5 Rock Songs of All Time” bit
• [24:40] — Why championship droughts feel infinite for NY teams
• [28:21] — Caller Danny challenges Giants optimism
• [32:26] — The “five-year” question and coaching change impact
• [38:09] — Debating criteria for top rock songs; Guns N’ Roses debate
• [43:19] — Guns N’ Roses, Nirvana, and what constitutes a "rock song"
• [47:14] — The peculiar science of “In Da Club” as a birthday anthem

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, irreverent, and passionate.
• Hosts freely challenge each other, embrace “fan logic,” and encourage spirited disagreement from listeners.
• The show mixes serious sports analysis with lighter, cultural debates. Banter and absurd “what if” scenarios are encouraged.
• Listeners are actively involved—on-air calls help anchor and diversify the discussion.

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Summary Takeaway

Hour 1 of this episode is a must-listen for NY sports fans balancing skepticism and hope. The arrival of John Harbaugh and Jackson Dart has injected real excitement into Giants fandom, shifting perceptions overnight, though the hosts wisely urge caution. The “Cuddle, Marry, Trash” game provides a fun but thoughtful structure for comparing fan fortunes across baseball, basketball, football, and hockey, with digressions into musical taste that spark almost as much passion as sports. Through it all, the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg trio models the essence of New York fandom: never certain, never satisfied, always loud, and joyously opinionated.

Transcript

[A]

Don, you know what? Maybe they can go pee on each other. That'd be great. Don, there's a lot of women out.

[B]

There that want you.

[C]

Alan and Rosenberg.

[D]

Give me the porn. For God's sake.

[A]

This isn't North Dakota. This is New York.

[C]

This is Don Hahn and Rosenberg.

[B]

The best threesome I've ever heard on.

[A]

ESPN New York and streaming live on YouTube 301 in the big city. Don Hahn and Rosenberg. It was great to see some of the K family today. That was great.

[D]

75%.

[A]

75% of the K family was in studio.

[D]

I can't believe.

[A]

Sans Cali.

[D]

Can't believe how grown Charlie is. Like, it just. I know. It happens so fast.

[A]

And he's older than Marco.

[D]

He's. He's what, he's two, three years old?

[A]

I think. Two.

[D]

Two years old, right?

[A]

10 or 11. I think he might be three years older. Two and a half years older, something like that. But you miss out, Alan, because you're at the Garden tonight for Nick's Pacers. But we got to see 75% of the K family.

[C]

Yeah, I'm sorry I missed out on that, but I heard he's going to be in all week, so I'm looking forward to seeing him tomorrow.

[D]

Wait, so he's all week?

[C]

All week.

[D]

Oh, this is.

[A]

They're having a little, like, ste here.

[D]

It's like. It's like Home Alone. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

You're right.

[D]

We give them plaza vibes.

[A]

I don't.

[D]

Maybe they're staying with Trump.

[A]

We don't know. Hey, Trump was in Home Alone. Home alone, too.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

Yeah, sure, sure. So that's going on.

[D]

Allen's geared up for a big old Knickerbocker basketball game tonight.

[A]

Well, we got lots to get to today. The Mets announced that there's the possibility that Francisco Lindor may need surgery. Saw that hamate bone, which we've. We've learned over the last, like, decade or so, is a hand injury. And if he has surgery, could be out four to six weeks. And listen, that spring training hasn't even started yet. Tomorrow's pitchers and catchers, so he'll be ready for the start of the season. But you hope that everything goes well. And. And also Soto's gonna play left field, so that was announced today. So we got a little baseball going as the weather starting to get a little bit warmer. Knicks Pacers tonight. Chance to see the Knicks at home after a tough game in Detroit on Friday. And then the big win in Boston on Super Bowl Sunday. So we got that. We've got to talk about a Tuesday at 4:30.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. We got some things to talk about.

[A]

But where I wanted to kind of jump to as we still have football in the, in the air. It wasn't great football, but it was still a Super bowl and the champion was crowned. I was listening to the show this morning. When I say the show, I mean dpa, Tron Rotham.

[D]

Right.

[A]

And they play a game called Cuddle Mary Trash. Are you familiar with it, Alan?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Oh sure.

[D]

We've all heard of it.

[A]

And the, the. So Cuddle Mary Trash the team that's going to win the next championship. And it was Knicks, Yankees, Giants. And Dave said Giants and he kind of got ripped by the rest of the show.

[D]

What are you talking about?

[A]

The Knicks went to the conference final last year. Yankees were in the World Series just two years ago. But he's expecting a championship in the next five years. And guys, that makes sense. Right?

[C]

I don't think it's crazy.

[A]

Why are we excited about John Harbaugh if not because the Giants have a chance to win. Yeah. If you think Jackson Dart is the next franchise quarterback, if you've got the quarterback of the coach, then I think you'd be red hot. If we fast forward five years from.

[C]

Now, like what, what are you doing?

[A]

And they don't win.

[C]

You got the best coach available. You got a coach with a resume. You got a coach that has a ring on his finger. You got a coach that's done nothing but win. And you have a young quarterback that everybody's excited about. You can't ask anybody in the league about Jackson Dart without getting anything positive. Like all you'll get is positives. So of course it's all there for the Giants. And the best part is it's an organization that you trust, has done it before. Like they know it. Like with all the issues they've had. The one thing we know is that the Giants do know how to win. That's been in their DNA. So there's, it's, I don't think it's crazy now to put the Giants ahead of the Yankees. I don't know if I would do that. But I don't think it's crazy to think that if you can say the next five years I expect him to be in a Super bowl, that that's not crazy either.

[A]

It's not crazy. And because John Harbaugh is 63 years old.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So if you fast forward five years from now, he's 68 and he decides, you know what? I'm 60 years old, I'm going to retire, Right. If he retires as head coach of the Giants and they hadn't won, now, if they'd gone to a couple of Super Bowls and lost, Lost the Super bowl the year he retired, and then they win the super bowl the year after he leaves, and then we can reassess. But, you know, if it's 68 years old, he decides, you know, I'm done with football. And the Giants don't have another ring. Because you said something really interesting. If this is Cleveland, if this is the jets, no offense, you're like, well, those teams never win. As embarrassing as the Giants have been for pretty much the last decade, they do occasionally.

[D]

No, you believe they're a team that.

[A]

They do eventually go, I don't know how many rotations of the earth it takes or whatever, but at some point.

[C]

They trip into one, you get the.

[A]

86 and 90 run, you know, go to the Super bowl in 2000, 2007, 2011. They do seem to, like, every decade eventually kind of get. Get right. And so now it feels like they got it right. They got the quarterback, they've got the head coach, and now we'll see if they can get it right. This was the conversation Rick and Dave had this morning. Will the Giants win a Super bowl in the next five years? Five years is a long time. When was the last time you won.

[D]

A Super bowl, though?

[A]

In 2012? It's 2026 now, right? Yeah, but I've been dysfunctional. I don't. I think the dysfunction is gone.

[C]

Okay, Right.

[A]

The dysfunction's gone, but you still have to. I mean, you still are pieces away from being that kind of team. They are. I mean, I think we have to see what they're going to do in free agency, and then there's going to be, obviously, a draft and they have the fifth pick and they have a quarterback who's heading in the right direction. I mean, I think there's a lot of reason for positivity with this organization now. Yeah. Where I disagree with Rick is that, yeah, there's a lot of holes to fill. It shouldn't take five years to fill them.

[C]

No, no. And you got the most important one. Don't. Like, you know, when you. If you told me, like, again, if you told me that you still don't have the quarterback, if you had the jets quarterback situation, but you had John Harbaugh and you had the Giants, I'd say, well, five years is tough because you Just don't. Who's the quarterback?

[A]

Right.

[C]

But you, you have a guy you believe in as quarterback. In fact, that offense has a lot of young talent and you have an all world left tackle. What, what are you missing on the offense that would tell you there's still more work to be done. So to me it's just, can they get the secondary right? They got a, you know, they got, you know, can they get defensive coaching? Right. But my God, like how could you not look at the Giants and think they could be competitive as the Eagles get older? As you know, the Cowboys are always the Cowboys. You know, your commanders have a good young quarterback. You got to see what happens there. But in your division there's always going to be those ebbs and flows. I don't know why it's preposterous to think that within five years the Giants could be one of the elite teams in the league.

[D]

I don't think it's preposterous right there. You know, they could, they could be.

[C]

The elements are there, Peter.

[D]

Some elements are there. Again, I'm going to keep beating this drum till I'm, till it, till I'm wrong. But the quarterback, still a lot remains to be seen. I maintain that. And that's the biggest piece. So the biggest piece of the whole thing or at least tied for the biggest piece. You can argue it's coach, I argue it's quarterback. The biggest piece is still. It's trending the right way, but far from. We know. I mean we don't even know about Drake May. You don't know about anyone. It takes so long to know. But I guess the part that has me miffed here is Dave Rothenberg.

[A]

He.

[D]

I have a text from him in.

[A]

January, not that long ago.

[D]

The Giants are losers, period. I have audio the ones this from December. Play the audio of Dave Rothenberg.

[A]

I'm sick and tired of everybody on this team. All of them. Jackson, Dart, Abdul Carter, the coaches, all of them, everybody.

[C]

I mean that's a fan.

[A]

Now this is pre Harbaugh.

[C]

Yeah, he's just being, he's just being a fan.

[D]

But Harbaugh changed everything.

[C]

Everything.

[D]

So now we call champions.

[A]

Well, let me ask you this. How many wins the Giants have last year?

[D]

Four.

[A]

I don't know. Four.

[C]

Yeah, four.

[A]

They get John Harbaugh make no real other changes except you know, the ancillary changes with the coordinators. But really John Harbaugh. Vegas is over. Under for the Giants is eight and a half. Yeah. So they're saying that John Harbaugh at minimum is worth four wins. So that's a major, major piece to land. Is is the head coach and we saw what happened in Chicago. You get the coach all of a sudden, Caleb Williams, he's starting to figure it out. Drake May almost wins an mvp.

[C]

Why?

[A]

Because didn't get another coach there. Now these aren't necessarily all offensive guys. Frable's not an offensive guy but it's a competent coach. What Vegas is telling you is the Giants basically didn't have coaching and now I've coaching that's going to help Jackson dart for sure. Even though Harbaugh is a defensive guy. Just having competent coaching with the Giants haven't had since Tom Coughlin have them.

[D]

In the conversation saying the Giants are closer to a championship than the Knicks at this moment is falling at this moment.

[A]

What you're saying is the Knicks never win that.

[D]

That's what the argument said.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

He's only saying the Knicks won't win otherwise. There's no argument.

[A]

And what you're saying is, you know, the Yankees haven't won since 2009.

[C]

That's the one I would push back on though, Don. Like see Peter saying that with the Knicks, that's the part because like I said, there's. There's no evidence of them doing it in modern history. Right. So that's the problem is something always happens. Whether it was the injuries two years ago, you know, like last year they just ran out of gas. Carmelo's year, guys got hurt. You know, Patrick's year is always something. The Yankees always find a way. And the World Series two years ago, okay, they were outclassed, but they're there. Like they get there. They're as good as anybody in the league and they have a good team. They are going to have good. Like there's every reason to believe the Yankees would be power ranked number one of teams you'd expect to win the next championship in New York. Until further notice, no one else goes above them.

[A]

If I played cuddle marriage I should play right now.

[C]

All right, let's do it.

[A]

I would have the Yankees as the team I married.

[C]

Mary, who do you cuddle?

[A]

I probably would cuddle the Giants and trash the Knicks. Only because. Only because. All right, the history and the fact that there are clearly better teams than the Knicks out West. Like you've got to get through the thunder. All right, The Yankees have to get through the Dodgers. I get it. But baseball's got, you know, a little bit more of a history of parody. Even though the NBA's got parody now than more than they've ever had. Is it to the level of baseball where it seems like you just throw. Throw a hat. Pull a number out of a hat. Who's going to be in the World Series each year? Right? We've had what, like five different teams over the last three years in the World Series. Well, we've got like, who's going to go like, it's crazy football, right? Like, who's the team to beat now? We just had the conversation. We don't think either of these teams are going to go back to the super bowl next year. So we're expecting new teams. It was the Eagles and the Chiefs. Then it's the Patriots and the Seahawks. Next year might be two other teams like, so why not the Giants in a couple of years there? Isn't that all we got to get over that team in order to be able to win? Where the Knicks clearly have okc. That's a problem. Sure. Right.

[D]

I'll remind everyone.

[A]

Have the Dodgers. That's a problem. Right. So that's why you might elevate the Giants a little bit more. But no, there's no, there's no scenario where I'd have the Giants as the best chance to win the next championship.

[D]

I just feel like to just go with the Yankees is lazy.

[C]

Lazy.

[D]

Yeah, it's. It's so like, it's kind of thing Don. It's sort of like Don's argument about when people just say the jets are going to lose because they're the Jets. That's kind of what we're doing here. We're basing it on the Yankees are the most likely to win because they're the Yankees. The Knicks are the least likely because they're the Knicks. Well, wait, but it's not really looking at the landscape completely fit. The Knicks are currently sitting in a conference where the team that would be better than them is definitively compromised. Like, the Knicks could arguably be the favorite in the east right now, coming out of the conference as we're speaking. Why would they not be the most likely? Except for the fact that we just think they're the Knicks, they won't win.

[C]

Well, I. To be fair though, we're not saying the Yankees just because of the Yankees. We're saying the Yankees because looking at their roster, they have one of the most talented teams in the sport, right?

[A]

And they just went to the World Series, like, honestly.

[C]

And they. And they, by the way, and the team that went to the World Series, they finished with the same amount of Wins as them last year, like their bad year is barely getting to, oh, low 90s. That's, that's a bad year for the Yankees. So I don't think it's just based on the fact, like we're not doing this based off reputation, although reputation I do think does enter in when we're doing arbitrary, like what are we doing here? Like, we're just, like we're not making any definitive statements. We're just basing it off what's your opinion? And I would put into my opinion the fact that the Yankees have a really good roster. We know they're always going to be there every year and I've seen them win before, so it gives me confidence to put them ahead of the Knicks. Because the Knicks, that's their, that's the thing that still hangs over them. It's really why when they were the favorites going in in the east going into the season, there was a lot of skepticism to it. And then as they had a outstanding start to the year, they went through an 11 game slide and how fast did everybody just completely write them off? They've now won nine of their last 10. So they went nine losses over 11 written off. They've won nine in the next 10 and people still are skeptical.

[A]

Yeah. And see what I mean? I understand what you're saying, Lazy Peter, but you have to also factor in Mike Brown. There's a lot of Nick fans who are like, I didn't want to get rid of Thibault. Yeah. Mike Brown hasn't won anything to make me believe that, oh, they're going to win a championship. All of a sudden Yankee fans hate Aaron. They think Aaron Boone's the reason why they don't win. Outside of Brian Cashman, every Giant fan thought John Harval. Well, listen, Harbaugh has only won one super bowl, but he's won a Super bowl fairly recently. Like, so it's all that. Like that. That's why I think the Giants get elevated. Because when you look at the Knicks and the Yankees, it's like, well, listen, the Yankees are always good, but they've been always good since 2009.

[D]

Right.

[A]

And they've only got the one World Series in that span. Like they, they seem to always kind of have the problem. So. And listen, if we had this conversation two years ago, we're talking about the Rangers, right? Where they were in the conference final.

[C]

It's funny, they'd be in the conversation too. Don, you're right.

[A]

Right. They'd be in the conversation. Now they're not because sometimes knocking on the door makes you believe less. And you have been able to knock it down. Like, you almost want to start fresh. Like the Giants are starting fresh.

[C]

New coach, new quarterback, and let me throw a team in that we won't talk about. But you have every reason to make the case for if you're gonna. If you're gonna say over the next.

[A]

Five years, I know what you're gonna say.

[D]

There's only one.

[C]

Well, the New York Islanders.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

They have a goalie, which is all you need most of the time. Right. He's one of the best in the league. Sorokin. They have a defenseman who's going to be one of the best players in the sport in short order. Like, it's coming. He's that good. This kid, Matthew Schaefer. They have a GM that's aggressive, that comes from a place where they won cups. He knows how to build a championship roster. If you give them a couple of years. Is it out of the question to think they could be one of the best teams in the league? It's not. They have pieces to do. When you have one of the best players in the league and one of the best goalies in the league, you generally will have a run and a chance to be one of the best teams in the league. So that's. That's a team we won't bring up yet because it's too early to bring them up. But they could enter this conversation sooner rather than later.

[A]

So we got to reinvent a different game. So it's got to be cuddle, marry, trash, cheat with. So we had the fourth one. And would the Islanders be the cheat with.

[C]

I like that side piece.

[A]

I was gonna go. I just don't know if you're allowed.

[D]

Side piece.

[C]

Side piece.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

You think that could be a possibility? No. Kuma, you don't believe a word without an actual violence.

[C]

Here you go, Don. It's cuddle, marry, goomah trash.

[A]

Yeah. If you guys are comfortable with it, I'm fine with it.

[C]

I think it'd be more fun.

[A]

I don't. Because I don'. Know what gets dumped and what doesn't.

[D]

I'm offended that the game's even called Cuddle Mary trash.

[A]

Because, you know, it really is.

[D]

Why can't we call it Bleep Marry, kill?

[C]

Because you did. It's not right.

[D]

But. But, like, instead, it feels like we're playing like so.

[A]

But think about it.

[C]

It's the G rated.

[A]

We're bleeping out The F word. Right, Right. But it's okay to say kill.

[C]

They're saying trash.

[D]

That's why they even changed that.

[C]

Right.

[A]

They can't even shoot you.

[D]

They even trashed kill.

[C]

That's not right. We have a feature called the bleep you miss now. I think we probably could get away.

[A]

With Blank Mary Kill.

[D]

Yeah, Blank Mary.

[A]

Blank Mary kid. Or trash, if you want.

[C]

If you. What if you did, like. What if you did it with, like, notorious figures in the world? Like somebody who's been married forever. Like an actor who's been married forever, an actor who is notorious for cheating and like OJ Right now we'd probably get.

[A]

If you want to play the game. Yo, Blank marry, kill side piece.

[D]

Right in the city. You're saying with all the. With all the teams.

[A]

So if you were going to play that game.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Are the Islanders your side piece?

[C]

I. I did my side. They're my side.

[D]

I might make the Mets my side piece.

[A]

You know what? Now we got to go find.

[D]

We'll see what's going to happen with this thing.

[A]

So. So blank marry, kill side piece. You up?

[D]

No, no.

[A]

What's the fifth one? The fifth one, like, I don't know, slide into DMs.

[D]

I don't need a fifth one.

[A]

Don't call back.

[D]

I think.

[C]

I think.

[D]

You don't think you can make. You don't think there's any Mets argument to be made?

[A]

Yes, I think there is. There's a Mets argument to be made. Why not? If there's an Islander argument.

[C]

You know what? Talking to my mother this morning, you know Michelle, the biggest Met fan I know, right. And she started out because she was going on about her Rangers. And then I said, well, baseball season's coming. You got your Mets. And she's like, ah, I don't know what to know. I don't know what to think of them because, you know, there's so many changes. I don't know some of these players. And I said to her, I said, you know what? I think by May, you'll be telling me how much you love this team. That's what I think.

[A]

I think, you know, I think a.

[C]

Lot of fans, because the name brands, the people they know that left, it was heartbreaking. You're going to miss Nimmo and his hustle. You know, obviously, Pete was somebody that everybody just loved because of who he was, and he was kind of goofy and he could home runs. But the team they assembled is going to look dramatically different. And at first it might be. It's going to be different. But I think the way they play is going to bring in a lot of people. I think people will be happy about this message.

[A]

You know what the Mets did, the Mets did what you know, the Rangers didn't do, the Yankees didn't do. They didn't run it back.

[C]

Right.

[A]

They lost 80. They won 83 games and said we've got to make major changes. And they went out and made major changes.

[C]

Changes, yeah. Stylistic changes.

[A]

So that's that. I think that's good on them. We'll see. But we're having some Fun with this. 1-800-919-3776. We got some David Stearns. He had a couple of announcements to make on the health of Francisco Lindor may need surgery on his hand. Also the fact that Soto's going to play left field don't think it's a big deal. He's not a great defender anyway. So whether he's left or right, it's not going to make that big of a difference as far as his defense is going to be concerned. We've got talk about a Tuesday coming up at 4:30, ENN at 6. We got a full vehicle today, boys. Right. We'll be ready. We're taking it right until 7 o'. Clock.

[C]

Can't wait for tomorrow's list, man.

[A]

I'm working on it, man.

[C]

I know. I heard in the meeting.

[A]

It is special.

[C]

I almost want. I don't know, Peter, do you. Do you not want to be involved in it? Just because. I want to see if Don's ready to just put it on the table and dare people criticize him.

[A]

I'm going to tell you something. This list that I'm going to do tomorrow at 4:30, or should we do.

[C]

It as a team is going to.

[A]

Get me in a lot of trouble. People are going to hate me. But what I'm trying to do is impossible. It's right down there on the table. And I'm going to tell you because normally I keep it a surprise. There's no reason to keep it a surprise because that's how outrageous it is. The top five rock songs of all time rageous. And I am gonna try to do it. This is like lifting Mount Everest, laying it on the table.

[C]

That's a big. So you don't work. I'm thinking slap it. That's it. Just drop it. But I'm, I'm thinking, Don, I, I don't think you need to do this alone. I think you need like all of us, bulletproof support all of us together. So if they kill one, they kill all.

[A]

You want to work on this together? You want to curate this together?

[C]

We got 24 hours. What do you think? Say yes or no. It's your list. You could say no. This is my list.

[A]

Well, there's two ways we can do it. Well, there's three ways we can do it. I just do it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

On my own. We all contribute to a list or we all be bold. We all attempt make our own to lift that Mount Everest. And each of us come up with our top five.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Wow. And see if we even share anything in common.

[D]

That's kind of fun.

[A]

Now, listen, you got a one year old at home. Is she feeling better? Is everybody getting better at home?

[D]

Well, yeah. I mean, I'm probably now the worst of the three of us, and I'm okay. So I. I mean, I went into my other job today, too.

[A]

I'm moving around and Allen's got Knicks.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But I mean, five rock and roll songs isn't that hard for me to sit and give it, throw a shot out, you know, see where I land.

[C]

It'll do this. I'll be up all night.

[A]

Easy to write things down. But just get ready because people take this very personal.

[D]

I'm excited about this.

[A]

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[C]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[D]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[C]

Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[A]

It's crazy. We always ask these questions, right? Who's closest to a championship? Because we got nine teams, right? Not to put any shade on the WNBA or MLS or whatever, but of the four major sports, there are nine teams. You would think that we'd be doing a lot better than we are, but we can legitimately bring five teams into the conversation, Right? Like, I don't think the Islanders are winning a championship this year, but could they be playing in the conference final of the East? Yes. With Sorokin if Horvat gets hot.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Things break, right? They could be playing.

[C]

I'll tell you.

[A]

What, Tampa in the conference final, right? Because they would have right now.

[C]

They had to have knocked out Florida.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Because right now they're in third place. So they play Pittsburgh in the first round. Tell me they can't beat Pittsburgh. They absolutely could.

[C]

If they didn't lose Paul Mary, I'd feel better. I'd feel even more about it.

[A]

And then you take on Carolina and let's face it, Carolina's a beast. But we've seen them in the second round fizzle out in the postseason. Now you're all of a sudden playing Tampa in the conference final. Now, I don't think they, they beat Colorado in the Stanley cup final, but the NHL is all about upsets, right? It's all about President's trophy teams getting bounced in the first round. So the Islanders to me are certainly in the conversation, but they've got the same history, Right? Like they don't win. They've made runs. A couple of the back to back years. They went to the third round, but they haven't won since 1983. Nick73 Yep. For the Yankees, 2009 feels like 1909. Right. Because they're supposed to win more often.

[C]

Giants are the most recent.

[A]

The Giants are the most recent.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So that brings it kind of into the conversation. It's interesting, but I just, I remind everybody we could have had this conversation. And the Mets, like, the Mets are a team that not that long ago went to game six of the league championship series. They were in the final four. Now they kind of blown that team up, but not at the expense of mailing in this year or rebuilding. They reimagined the team on the fly with the intention of competing for a championship this year. Right now, will they? I mean, the Phillies are still very good. I think the Braves are going to bounce back from an injury plagued year. The Dodgers are in their league. The Padres are in their league.

[C]

Don't you think, Don, that baseball is the one sport that. I think there's too many variables. If you have a roster that could be considered within the top 10, 10, whatever you want to say, if you think your team, roster wise, you have a chance at all health, right. Like there's all those little things that variables throughout a season. But that's why you, you have to say that you can't say no. Because when you have that kind of talent, there's a chance in baseball if you have. If the pitching comes through and you just get, look, the Mets got on two years ago. They started out the season, they were awful, but they got hot, they got on a run and they did some things that no one expected. I think that's why it's different with baseball. It's not like some of these other sports where, well, if you don't have a superstar, if you don't have a great quarterback, if you don't have a great goalie, you have no chance. You can't say that in baseball.

[A]

No. And for whatever reason, even though the season's long, sometimes seasons get lost. Look at the Braves last year who had that on their bingo card. They're just, they were just going to be out of it. Nothing ever clicked. It just didn't happen for them. And then sometimes everything kind of comes together for you, like so you just don't know. That's why you got to play it out. 1-800-919-3776. Let's get to the busy phone lines and let's start it off with Danny on Long Island. You're on espn, New York. Hi, Danny.

[B]

Happy Tuesday, man. Glad everybody survived the big game. Now here we are in the middle of the winter talking about this. I love it. I'm going to refer to this game, by the way, as cuddle marry, trash, flush. I think that flows well. I'm going to start with the Knicks because they're in the middle of the season. We expect them to get to the conference final. And if you're expected to get to the conference final, is it really that outrageous to say you have a potential to win a championship before the Giants, who have yet to win a playoff game and won't be play a game for another nine months? So I'm going to stick with the Knicks as my opening choice. Then I'm going to go with the Yankees because the Yankees are there every season. Because I disagree completely with Allen, with the variable factors exist in the National Football League. With the one injury can end the season. The rotating schedule and just the margin of victory is so minor that in baseball, I could predict eight of the 10 playoff teams right now. We know who's going to be there. It's just a matter of winning once you get there. But in football, just getting to the playoffs is not an easy thing to do. And the Giants, let's get a winning season first. Let's go with Peters comment. Let's see Dart play a few seasons uninjured, win seven games, win eight games, win nine games. Let's see. Let's have a successful second season before we start paying them in. So I'm going to go with Knicks, Yankees. And then I know this because all the reasons Don just said, if you can see a team in the conference final, it's not that much of a stretch to say they potentially could win a cup in the next year or two. And then we're going to take about four steps down to get to flush to go with the Giants because they have a. I agree that everything looks good, but can we win a game, please? John Harbour hasn't won, you know, John harbor hasn't been to a Super bowl since he had Joe Franco. Now all of a sudden he has Jackson Dart and we're going to. We're going to build statues.

[A]

Well, I'm with you.

[D]

I'm with Danny on this.

[C]

I don't know if we said anything about statues, though. Like, what we're saying is that. I think, Danny, what we're saying is not. We're not predicting it. We're saying it's in the realm of possibility. And I wouldn't put the jets in the realm of possibility, but I think for the Giants, it's in the realm of possibility.

[A]

I think people are misunderstanding the game. Like the conversation started out of, can the Giants win a championship in the next five years? I don't think anybody believes the Giants are winning a championship this year. All right, now we're playing the game of cuddle marry trash. I don't think the Knicks are winning a championship this year. Now, could they. Yeah, but I think the Thunder are better. But could the spurs beat the Thunder? Sure. I saw Shaq Saturday night. They had the show after the Laker game, the Laker Warrior game. And he said he's predicting on record right now, he says the spurs are going to beat the Thunder in the conference final.

[C]

I remember that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yes, I remember him saying that.

[A]

And so if that happens, well, then that's a repeat of the cup, where instead of playing the Thunder, you're playing the Spurs. Hey, who knows? I still think the spurs would be the favorite in the best of seven. But you don't know. They're not unbeatable the way people think the Thunder are.

[C]

Well, they're also very young.

[A]

Right. So.

[C]

But that's not a, that's not crazy to think that that could happen. By the way, that's not an outrageous take whatsoever. They match up really well with them and that could be a war, that.

[A]

Series and the Yankees. Are the Yankees winning a World Series this year? They could, yes. I wouldn't bet on it that they're going to win because they're in a really difficult division and you got to go through the Dodgers again, which nobody seems to be able to beat in a big spot. So now we're moving on to year two. Well, now the Giants, maybe they come off an eight, nine season. A nine and eight season. Well, then maybe two years from now you're starting to think, hey, maybe the Giants can take that next step. Where are the Knicks going to be in two years? You know, where are the Yankees going to be in two years? So I think people are focused a little bit too much on this year. I don't think anybody has the Giants winning this year. But the fact that John Harbaugh can all of a sudden get their over. Under to go up to eight and a half and that they might actually be a playoff team or on the cusp of a playoff team in year one. The original conversation was they better be headed towards the super bowl in the next four years after that, otherwise it's going to be a huge disappointment. Right. That's the goal.

[C]

That's, that's, I think that's the point I'm trying to make is that any thought of it's just going to take a while. It's not supposed to. It's not supposed to. Not with the pieces they have. I think we learned quickly that a lot of what happened to the Giants last season was a team that was poorly coached and poorly prepared. There's no question at all that that's what was going on there to a point where we saw on the defensive side of the ball how, look what the big problem that they had with their, with their number two pick in the draft was that he couldn't be anywhere on time. Like that's his little. There's just little things that tell you that they got to button it up and maybe they'll get more out of their players. And we know that that's Harbaugh Obviously lasted a long time in this league because he knows how to do all that stuff. So they're going to be better. They're going to be better. How good, how soon? That remains to be seen. But they're going to be better.

[A]

Yeah, that's the hope. And then in the next few years they're going to be on their way. And now people look at what Chicago did in one year because of a coaching change and what it did for their quarterback, New England, what it did for them. Just changing the head coach and a quarterback in his second year. I think that's what everybody's looking at. How Caleb Williams grew with the coaching change, how Drake May with the coaching change. And people are going to be looking at the Giants as can the Giants do that? And if not in year one, maybe by year two. But I caution this too. Things really broke well for New England to get where they got, of course, perfectly. It's not a lot has to happen the end of. It's funny like going into last season, the AFC was the dominant conference. But then you see what happened in Baltimore, what happened in Kansas City and especially what happened in Cincinnati changed the landscape. You're still in the division with the Cowboys who still have talent, with the Eagles, who are still a playoff team and a championship just two years ago. I still think the Lions could be back. Packers certainly are good. We just talked about the pairs, you know, and then you look out west. Seahawks, San Francisco, there's a lot of good teams. And Rams with Stafford back.

[C]

No, it's a tough road.

[A]

You know, nine wins may not be enough to get into the playoffs in the nfc.

[D]

This is obviously speaking with some level of bias because who knows what will happen. But it's going to be someone. They could have a pretty good year and come in last in the NFC East.

[A]

Well, and you know what? That's.

[D]

That's what it could be.

[A]

I was. I neglected to. To mention the commanders with a healthy quarterback. They went to the championship game two years ago, right?

[C]

Yep.

[D]

They have a ton of cap space.

[A]

So Daniel stays healthy. Why couldn't they do that again?

[D]

I. You have no reason to think they would.

[A]

But you know what? We could. But we were talking about the Bears last year. It's like, yeah, the Bears might be better, but they're in a division with the Lions. Everybody's picking the. After the Parsons deal, everybody's picking packers to go to the Super Bowl.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Minnesota just won 13 games last year, 14 games last year. And guess what didn't stop the Bears So let's have at it. Man 1-800-919-3776. Lot to discuss. We'll get into the David Stearns of it all. We've got to talk about a Tuesday coming up at 4:30 and we've got an ENN at 6 that Peter's been working on since like last Tuesday.

[D]

And also I want to tell you something.

[A]

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[D]

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[C]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[D]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[C]

Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[A]

So I popped on Twitter just to see what the reaction is to the show. Mm. And I've got everybody giving me their top five songs.

[C]

I love it. What do we got?

[A]

Give her.

[C]

Give me some. Give me like a little flavor of what type of like, what's up? Is there. Is there one consistent.

[A]

Now the people. People are saying that the caller yesterday was saying the last 40 years. And some people say, how about the last 45? And my question was, would any rock song over the last 45 years make the top five all time? And that's why I think people are kind of feeding off of Plan J says sweet child of Mine smells like Teen Spirit, Enter Sandman. Just off the top of my head.

[C]

So I guess all from one era. Yeah.

[A]

Three. Not. That's not a song. That's just off the top of his head.

[D]

I will say. I will say the Sweet Child of Mine could certainly be in the conversation.

[A]

One thing, one rule that I gave myself for the list. No repeat bands. I want five songs from five different bands or people.

[C]

Oh, I. I completely.

[A]

Is that fair?

[D]

Sorry.

[A]

Thing to do?

[C]

What's the.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like five Beatles songs. You're cheating.

[C]

Yeah, no, no, I think that's right. See, I would. See, it's funny you say Sweet Child them. I would have gone welcome to the jungle if you were gonna pick one. Because if you're. If an alien lands and says, what's rock sound like? That's definitely a song you could play.

[D]

Yeah, it doesn't. It.

[A]

The.

[D]

The staying power, though. Sweet Child of Mine has really stood the test of time.

[A]

I just. I just.

[C]

It's too melodic, though.

[D]

You think it's too melodic to be rock and roll. I don't think that's fair. A fair representation.

[C]

I mean, I know that it picks up. It. I don't know. Well, look, I hear what you're saying again, this is. I've always said this music is not. It's not opinion based.

[A]

Well, that. That's why music is what you like. But that. But it's not even. Like, these are Don's top five. So I don't want you to give me your top five favorite songs.

[C]

Right.

[A]

You've got to back it with relevance, facts. Like, why is this one of the greatest songs of all time? And it's got to be song that everybody knows, everybody has an opinion of. It's been used in movies, it's been used in commercials. Its relevancy cannot be questioned.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe questioned on whether it should be in the top five, but not questioned overall. Mm.

[D]

So you need some. Some sort of material ways to back this up.

[A]

Yeah. I want you to give me a reason. Not like, oh, it's very hummable.

[D]

But would you agree with my assessment there in this. In this moment, that Sweet Child of Mine has stood the test of time better than welcome to the Jungle?

[C]

No, Don doesn't like either one.

[A]

Well, because I just. I just don't like Guns N Roses. I don't respect them. There's a couple of songs I just respect. You know, they showed up late. They were a mess. I mean, drugs have messed up everybody. I get it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But like, they. They're really Disrespectful to their fans, not showing up the concerts. But they left so much on it.

[D]

They.

[A]

To me, Bobby or 86.

[C]

They're the 88 Mets.

[A]

They could have been so much better. Like Bobby. They just had bad. You know, their nose full of coke.

[D]

Yeah, but that, that, that what you're saying is like, that is also rock and roll.

[A]

Yeah, but you know what? It damaged them. Like they. They what? They got like three albums. Come on, man. They lived. They were live.

[D]

The albums were big.

[A]

They lived off appetite for destruction for way too long. Were they like five years before they came out with anything else after that?

[D]

That's not that long.

[C]

Use your illusion. They went two albums at one time.

[A]

But I do like songs. I just. But if I. The three guns n Roses songs that are the conversation. Because I love civil war. But that's not in the conversation. November rain is a great song. Not in the conversation. It's three songs. Sweet child of mine. Welcome to the jungle, paradise city. Those are the three. It would be between those three. Now, the one that I like the most of those three is paradise city.

[D]

Yeah, I love paradise city even though it's really cheap.

[A]

Welcome to the jungle.

[C]

Paradise city is definitely a stripper song.

[D]

But to me, this. The. That's the most iconic part of all three songs.

[C]

It's. It's that pretty.

[A]

That's a.

[D]

Lives on its own.

[C]

Yeah, that's a name. That tune. That tune.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, walking to the jungle takes time, you know, And I. I think I walk into the jungle. It lived in two ways. It lived for those of us who really live through it. And you'll hear it randomly playing it like the climax of a hockey game. They'll like, just drop.

[A]

Like.

[D]

It's the kind of thing you hear in an arena for a moment.

[C]

But it has the buildup.

[D]

But sweet child of mine I think is the.

[A]

The one. Let's go to Dan and Chatham. You're on espn, New York. Hi, Dan.

[C]

Hey.

[A]

How you guys doing? Good.

[B]

So we've got. We got to start out with something that comes to mind to everybody. You got a Chuck, Barry, Johnny, be good.

[D]

We had that conversation yesterday.

[C]

I said that yesterday. Okay.

[A]

How about Leila, Eric Clapton, Derek and the dominoes. But I hear what you're saying.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, I love that song. Love it.

[C]

All right.

[B]

The Beatles. Hey Jude.

[D]

I mean, that's not what I'm thinking. Rock song, though.

[C]

Yeah. I'm not thinking hey Jude's a rock rollings.

[D]

If someone said play me a great rock song, you're playing hey Jude.

[C]

You're not playing hey Jude. You're playing Revolution.

[B]

Everybody sings to hey Jude.

[A]

No, let's not play this game. It's rock. Okay, Stop it. Okay, go ahead, continue. All right.

[B]

The Rolling Stones, Sympathy Meet the Devil.

[C]

I love that song.

[A]

That is a good.

[C]

I love that song. Such a good song.

[B]

And I would include one of the. The Sweet Child of Mine or one of November Rain.

[C]

Well, I can tell you, Guns and Roses instead of Nirvana.

[A]

There's no way Guns N' Roses is it making my top five.

[C]

Nowhere near ahead of Nirvana. You can't do that.

[D]

Is it? Does Nirvana have a chance, Tom?

[A]

No shot.

[C]

No shot. None shot.

[A]

None shot.

[D]

Well, these are just.

[C]

The list.

[D]

Should just be called Don's Favor.

[A]

Take it out.

[C]

That's an iconic song.

[A]

Listen, we're talking about five. We're talking about rock and roll.

[D]

Are you getting past 90? Oh, are you getting past 1990 at all? Now, now, Rock kind of died by 2000, so you don't have that window.

[C]

I think rock died in fairness, before Panic at the Disco.

[A]

I'm not gonna answer.

[C]

That's where it dies right there.

[D]

Cuz.

[A]

Cuz rock and roll is dead now. It's. It's. It's dead, dead, dead.

[C]

Kill it.

[A]

The Stomp. To defend myself, even though I'm not gonna say that I don't. Is that obviously aging well is going to help. Like, so the older the song, you know, the relevancy of, like, it's still. It's still big today and the song's 60 years old. You know what I'm saying?

[D]

I'm guessing the latest we'll. We'll get. The latest we're gonna get down is like a 80, early 80s is what I'm thinking from dub.

[C]

There's got to be a sound garden or something.

[A]

What are we doing?

[B]

Are we.

[A]

You know what? I don't want to.

[D]

Come on.

[A]

If you listen. I love grunge. I love Soundgarden.

[C]

So nothing out of the grunge to me.

[A]

Bands like Soundgarden, Owls and Chains were around before grunge. They were called metal. And all of a sudden we just decided to change the name. It's so stupid. But listen, I love Soundgarden. Chris Cornell has one of the most amazing voices ever.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It can't be a sound guard like Black Hole Sun's a great song. I'm not putting in the top five, top five stuff.

[D]

All right, but that's what I'm saying. I don't think you can.

[A]

We don't you know what? We're not ready. You guys aren't ready for this. Well, you're not taking it seriously.

[C]

I'm throwing things that we're spitballing right now. Nobody. Nobody's putting anything in.

[A]

Spitballing. You don't understand what we're doing here.

[D]

The only one that I would say you. You reasonably would consider would probably be Smells Like Teen Spirit. That would be the.

[A]

Yesterday kicked off an entire genre or Paradise City.

[D]

But I think Smells Like Teen Spirit is a reasonable conversation.

[A]

We need to take this seriously.

[D]

I agree.

[A]

And you know how much I love music, and this show does more music than we really are legally allowed to.

[D]

Although it's the only thing anyone cares about.

[A]

Evidently. It is kind of crazy. Let's go to Dan in Saratoga. You're on espn, New York. Dan, what's going on?

[B]

What's going on, guys?

[C]

How are you?

[A]

What are you doing?

[C]

Yeah, what do you got going on over there? What do you got going on? Little Duncan, he's on a run for me.

[B]

Hey, so I haven't heard on the list, but Hotel California's gotta be on there, right? I'm sure.

[A]

Not a bad. It's not a bad. Now we're talking now.

[D]

There we go.

[A]

Somebody's taking the conversation.

[C]

Oh, oh, give me a break. I throw one out there. I've been nailing them all day. Since yesterday. I. I have one air ball. One. This guy's. Now I gotta.

[B]

I got a hip hop one.

[D]

Peter, go ahead.

[B]

What about Peter? I know you guys mentioned like a hip hop song that's like annoying, but it's really good. Yeah, I know the guy mentioned Hypnotized last. Last night, but what about in the club by 50 Cent?

[A]

You know what? Our.

[D]

Our PD. Our PD John Winthrop said that yesterday.

[A]

That's not.

[D]

It's a great. That's a great. In the club is a great example of one of the biggest songs of all time. And when you hear it, you go, okay.

[A]

Oh, two.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It's your bird. All right. Like, once you start hearing it, you're like, all right, all right. No, I don't know if you're.

[A]

Jacob released 02, but the album 03. So we're still talking about 23 years, 24 years.

[D]

And as a DJ, you just have had to play it a million times because someone's birthday.

[C]

But I don't know if that's still Stairway because at least when you hear you're like, yeah, it's. That's good, though.

[D]

Well, no, but in the club is A good record. It's, it's like you listen in the club, you remove. You remove what it's become. You stop thinking about the white girls. Literally at the club in college going, you have to play in the club. Play, Play. Go play. It's your birthday. They don't even call it in the club. Play. It's your birthday.

[C]

It's your birthday. Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

When you remove that part of it and you just hear out like the beat and the way. How comfortable he was on it. It is a great record. But I really wonder, and I've never asked him this. You know what? I'm going to ask him this next time because we're going to get him on the show, the morning program soon. I wonder if he thought about if the ghost shorty it's your birthday thing is going to be a huge thing. I wonder if it crossed his mind or if it was just him ad libbing and having fun.

[A]

Because now, like, probably not, because that.

[D]

Became it's the thing.

[A]

It's an American pie.

[C]

It's the thing. Right? That's the problem. It's become the thing.

[D]

The thing.

[C]

And I'll speak for, I'll speak for us, our team. We ruin everything, anything that's cool. We take it, beat it to death and turn it into something cliche. So that's on us. Our bad. Yeah.

[D]

The whites.

[C]

Yes, yes. The awesome ones. We just, we really do struggle when.

[D]

You get excited, you know, you get excited and you got to hear it again and again and again and again.

[A]

This is, this is, it's. It's. The prequel to the List has got people buzzing.

[C]

This might be a whole, like, we might have to clear the decks and just make this a four hour thing.

[A]

Well, you know what? We might be on our way to doing that.

[C]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[D]

I don't want to know how the.

[C]

Sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.