Don, Hahn & Rosenberg — Hour 1: Glenn Backtrack & Giants HC Search

Date: December 29, 2025
Hosts: Ty Butler, Alex Monaco, Jacob Rosenberg
Main Theme: Examining the Jets’ coaching controversy, QB dilemmas, and the Giants’ looming head coach search — all through the unique frustrations and comic chemistry of New York sports radio.

Episode Overview

This episode is a deep dive into the uncertain futures of both New York football franchises, focused on the volatile leadership of Jets coach Aaron Glenn, quarterback options for the Jets, and the hunt for the Giants’ next head coach. The trio and callers blend sharp criticism, gallows humor, and impassioned debate, creating a must-listen for fans exasperated by the state of New York football.

Key Discussion Points

1. The Aaron Glenn Backtrack & Jets Dysfunction

• Aaron Glenn’s inconsistent messaging:
  Ty Butler highlights Glenn blaming poor player effort after a recent loss, then reversing himself at the next press conference and insisting “the effort wasn’t the problem” after watching game film.

  • Ty: “There’s just no consistency from this head coach as far as the commentary following games…something’s just happening overnight and it leaves me aghast.” (03:38)

• Team accountability and defensive collapse:
  Rosenberg blasts Glenn for allowing record completion percentages and lifeless play—extra damning for a defensive specialist.

  • Rosenberg: “You allow a quarterback to go for a 90% completion percentage…there’s no pride, there’s no dog. It's real, real bad.” (04:17)

• A historical pattern of poor decisions:
  Multiple hosts note Glenn’s public support for staff (e.g., Steve Wilks) right before their firings and compare to past Jets’ failures.

  • Ty: “Biggest problem is they’re headed for a 3-14 season despite facing the seventh-easiest schedule. And it’s just going to get tougher.” (05:39)

2. Jets Quarterback Pipe Dreams & Harsh Realities

• The “All-In for Burrow” fantasy:
  Rosenberg floats the wild idea of packaging all of the Jets’ first-round picks to trade for Joe Burrow, arguing only a “true alpha” could reverse the Jets curse.

  • Rosenberg: “You sell a low self-esteem franchise...Top of mind is Cincinnati Bengals. Joe Burrow isn’t having fun. He’s sulking...Hey, you want five picks?” (06:57)
  • Ty, playing the skeptic: “But what I can’t wrap my head around is why Joe Burrow would sign up for that…if I want happiness, I’m going to Minnesota.” (08:35)

• The futility of Jets optimism:
  The hosts brutally break down why elite QBs don’t want the job: toxic culture, lack of infrastructure, and, as Ty jokes, “last time a veteran quarterback went, four plays into the season, he tore his Achilles.” (12:33)

• Other “realistic” QB scenarios:
  They debate trading for lesser QBs (Kyler Murray, Kirk Cousins), and the high risk of trading away draft capital for unstable stars, highlighting Jets fans’ cycle of disappointment.

  • Rosenberg: “It’s not sexy...but that’s the problem with, I think, Jets fandom sometimes—we’re gonna...arrest and you’re reading me off the menu, and it’s a bunch of things I don’t eat.” (17:41)

3. Jets Coaching Development & Accountability

• Caller input - Jet fan disbelief:
  Bernie: “I want to believe in Aaron Glenn…but this team probably needs six or seven new starters on defense. They’re not just a quarterback away.” (13:41)

• Front office critique:
  Rob’s call spotlights fan exhaustion: “Has this coaching staff showed you anything that they can develop? Somebody’s got to be held accountable for that. Because in real life, if you don’t do your job, you’re gone.” (20:17)

• Owner immunity:
  The hosts underscore that, ultimately, no one can hold owner Woody Johnson accountable—which is why misery persists.

  • Jacob: “That’s probably what’s driving Jets fans ballistic. You lose and there’s no repercussions...How does a guy like Aaron Glenn—dripped in dog in the 90s—allow a team like this to roll out?” (22:06)

• Ty’s grim prediction:
  “This time next year we’re going to be having the same conversation, except the difference will be Aaron Glenn might get fired.” (14:36)

4. Giants Head Coach Search & Franchise Crossroads

• The “what if” game with proven coaches:
  Callers and hosts debate whether swapping in coaches like Mike Vrabel or Sean McVay would instantly make the Giants a playoff team, but Ty notes that’s not a unique argument—everyone wants a top-3 coach.

  • Ty: “A lot of teams look at their roster and say, hey, if we had one of the three best coaches in football, I think we’d have a couple more wins.” (33:49)

• General Manager Joe Shane’s uncertain status:
  Reporting (via Jordan Raanan) indicates Shane will likely run the Giants' coaching search, despite his poor record since arriving.

  • Don Hahn, quoting Raanan: “They believe that Joe Shane is going to be back and running the search...but it certainly seems to be trending in the direction that Joe Shane is going to be back.” (47:29)
  • Ty: “No Giants fan wants to hear John Mara or Joe Shane’s coming back…” (48:54)

• Cautious hope for the Giants:
  Jacob: “The Giants have a rare scenario here...to completely turn around the ship…if they nail the head coach.” (38:23)
  Ty: “In the NFL, if you have the quarterback-head coach combination, your floor is the playoffs.” (35:19)
  But both hosts are wary: past failed coaching hires (Ben McAdoo, Joe Judge, Pat Shurmur) loom large.

• Potential Head Coaching Candidates:
  Names floated for interviews: Clint Kubiak, Jeff Hafley, Mike McCarthy (for operations), Ben Johnson, Shula, and discussions about the advantages of an offensive-minded coach.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Glenn’s pressers:
  Ty: “Just no consistency from this head coach as far as the commentary…It leaves me aghast.” (03:38)

• Jets QB search reality check:
  Ty: “If I’m Joe Burrow and I want happiness, I’m going to Minnesota. Like...there are a number of teams that make more sense before you get to the Jets.” (08:35)

• On perpetual losing:
  Jacob: “That’s probably what’s driving Jets fans ballistic. You lose and there’s no repercussions...How does a guy like Aaron Glenn...allow a team like this to roll out?” (22:06)

• Caller’s wisdom:
  Rob: “The true leadership will tell you, in any great line of business...if you make a mistake, you cut your losses immediately...This coaching staff...has not shown you...they can develop a quarterback.” (20:36)

• On the Giants job search:
  Jacob: “Since the Tom Coughlin...mentality, they have not recovered. Ben McAdoo, Joe Judge, Pat Shurmur…I’m losing sleep, I’m not even in New York.” (33:58)

• On hiring the right coach:
  Ty: “If you have the quarterback-head coach combination, your floor is the playoffs…The hope has to be that they nail the head coach and it’s an attractive job because of the blue chippers on the roster...” (35:19)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:30 — Show banter, New York teams setting up the week's tension
• 01:20–03:38 — Aaron Glenn’s press conferences dissected, “effort” controversy
• 04:17 — Defensive collapse, shocking stats, and Glenn’s accountability
• 06:44–11:00 — Fantasizing and mocking the idea of trading for Joe Burrow
• 13:05–17:41 — Callers voice their disbelief in the staff’s ability to develop players, and the folly of overpaying for a QB
• 20:17–22:06 — “Real world” consequences, ownership immunity, and fan outrage at zero accountability
• 22:55 — Speculation on what hiring more consultants or “culture guys” would actually accomplish
• 24:22–26:27 — Jets history of losing coaches; parallels drawn to current regime and debate over the draft or trade strategy
• 31:20–38:23 — Giants segment: Head coach search, “what if” scenarios, and the requirements for returning to relevance
• 47:29–48:54 — Breaking news: Joe Shane likely to return as GM and run the coaching search, hosts lamenting this trend

Tone & Style

The hosts are opinionated, sarcastic, and self-aware, blending fan exasperation with humor:

• “I’m already in the weeds, Rob. I’m in them.” — Jacob (18:08)
• “Arrest and you’re reading me off the menu, and it’s a bunch of things I don’t eat.” — Rosenberg (17:46)
• “If you want happiness, I’m going to Minnesota…” — Ty (08:35)

Summary

Hour 1 is a sweeping trek through New York football’s land of broken dreams. The hosts give voice to the anger and exhaustion of Jets fans bewildered by Aaron Glenn’s erratic leadership and organizational apathy, debate the fantasy of landing an elite quarterback, and then pivot to the Giants’ shot at redemption, tempered by concern that the people steering the ship are the same who ran it aground. It’s lively, honest, and unvarnished—football talk for fans who have been through it all.

If you care about New York football, you’ll leave this hour with a sore neck from nodding and more than a few cathartic laughs.