Don Hahn (1:11)

Do I sound okay?

Peter (1:11)

You said, I think you. Alan, what do you think? I think sounds better than yesterday.

Alan (1:14)

A tad sounds better. A little nasally, but that's. We can get through that. Do me a favor, Donnie, before you get back, grab me a Pittsburgh Post Gazette.

Peter (1:22)

Nope, can't.

Alan (1:23)

No, you can. Until May.

Peter (1:25)

Oh.

Don Hahn (1:26)

Oh, it's going out.

Alan (1:27)

Shutting down. It's. It's tragic news.

Peter (1:31)

And yet another major newspaper gone.

Alan (1:34)

I mean, it's brutal. So they've gone through a lot there, though, but, yeah, you know, for a collection.

Peter (1:41)

And. Alan, how are you feeling physically?

Alan (1:43)

I'm feeling great. Look, a terrible night's sleep.

Don Hahn (1:46)

Oh, what happened? Was there an incident?

Alan (1:48)

Gone, lady. Was one of those games twice. One of those weeks good that they got. Yeah, it's been. It's been like that, but it. No complaints. It's just, you know, did not get a good night's sleep, so I had to, you know, had to battle through this morning. But we're good.

Peter (2:01)

But everything's good.

Alan (2:01)

Ready to go. But I got some yacht rock tonight in Huntington that I'm looking forward.

Peter (2:05)

Whoa.

Alan (2:06)

A little post show, hanging out with some. With some friends.

Peter (2:11)

And what does that mean when you say it's a yacht rock situation?

Alan (2:13)

I'm gonna find out.

Peter (2:15)

So you don't even know what this is?

Don Hahn (2:16)

So are these like a bands doing covers or the actual yacht rock artists?

Alan (2:22)

Oh, I don't think. Yeah, I think It's a review. That's what it's called. So what a review mean? It's like a band that just covers a whole bunch of different type songs. I don't know. I've never gone, but everybody tells me it's a lot of fun. And we're celebrating Betsy's birthday.

Peter (2:39)

Oh, we love Betsy's birthday.

Alan (2:40)

Love Betsy. Betsy at msg. So we like. Yeah, let's go. So I'm going.

Peter (2:45)

I love this for you.

Alan (2:46)

I do, too.

Peter (2:47)

This is a speed. You mentioned the getting home late, of course, because the Knicks got a much needed 123, 111 victory over the LA boats. And we can feel a little bit better about what's going on over there, at least for the moment. Jalen Brunson back on track, looking more like Jalen Brunson.

Alan (3:08)

But before that, guys, Towns looked more like. Towns is the real story.

Peter (3:12)

That's the headline.

Alan (3:13)

He. Yeah, he. He looked like start of the fourth quarter, really, the game turned because he turned it on.

Don Hahn (3:20)

Still can't stop himself, though.

Alan (3:21)

Well, no, I know. Like, it's unreal. Like, one of the questions I asked him on the court was just simply like, what was different? And he just. Well, I got more than six shots. Like, oh, boy. Okay.

Peter (3:30)

Yeah, well, here's the problem, buddy. You got 18 shots, but you only made six of them.

Alan (3:34)

Never mind. Yeah, let's. No, no, you're right. I'm saying let's never mind the fact. But it's, it's just that he had to just keep, he's got to keep dropping that. And he can't help himself. He's. He's just, he's going through it right now. Whatever is, whatever's happening with him mentally is getting in the way, but it didn't get in the way of a, of ending a losing streak right before a long road trip. So that was. Last night was very necessary. And at 14, what was it? 14 to 5, whatever it was, to start the game, I was like, oh, no, because they look terrible out of the gate. Yeah, they did, but they got it right. So.

Peter (4:10)

All right, so we're going to start today, though, is there may be a tad bit of a hiccup with John Harbaugh to the Giants. Let's hear from Jordan Rana, who will explain how the firing of Mike McDaniel in Miami could create a bit of a problem here for the G Men.

Jordan Rana (4:29)

The Miami Dolphins entered the chat and they are now probably considered the front runners.

Alan (4:36)

Okay.

Jordan Rana (4:37)

Now, the reason for that is there is a connection between John Harbaugh and the Dolphins and Steven Ross. And so once that job opens, you connect the dots and you say, you know what? Okay, here we go. You understand why he might want to go there? Here's what I think. Everybody's missing in the situation. So why would John Harbaugh be interested in. In the Dolphins over the Giants? Because personally, I don't think the Dolphins.

Don Hahn (5:06)

Is a great job.

Jordan Rana (5:06)

But when you have a connection like it seems like John Harbaugh does, then he could pick his general manager. He could basically get carte blanche, get a check to do what he wants, rebuild, get a new quarterback, find his own quarterback, whatever it may be. That is enticing.

Alan (5:21)

Mm.

Peter (5:23)

Just when you thought we could have something nice, didn't we, though?

Alan (5:27)

Like, this is why yesterday, as we were talking about the. Not the teams that jobs are open, but the fact that more than the jobs open were calls that they were taking that. That Harbaugh's agent was taking tells you there were teams that were considering making a move. And we. All. Right, didn't we all say Miami? We all thought that because we knew McDaniel was going to be on shaky ground to begin with. And if you're Ross and you know something, which his connection to Michigan, obviously a connection to Harbaugh. There was a lot of Harbaugh going to the Miami talk when he was at Michigan. So with all of that, you got to feel like he must have gotten some type of indication of, well, let's see if I bring in Chad Alexander as a GM who's got Raven's blood, and that's now a connection to Harbaugh. Now Harbaugh has his GM that he knows he can work with. That makes for an easier situation. So the Giants have some serious now competition. And we heard. We heard Gary say it yesterday, Gary Myers. We heard Ian say it to Ian o' Connor say it to Michael K. Don. The Giants don't operate in a way of. If Harbaugh or his representation said, listen, you know, he's comfortable in Miami, so he'll go with his gm Instead of coming into a place where the gm, he doesn't really know that. Shouldn't the Giants say, well, we'll hire Chad, like, we can clear the decks if that's all it takes. Should they or shouldn't they? Because those guys made it sound like they. That's not what the Giants would do.

Don Hahn (6:55)

Well, it's not what the Giants do, but before they hired Dable and Shane, the Giants weren't a team that usually went outside the organization but because of the failures previously, they decided to go outside the organization. So they did show at least the ability to pivot, to change, to look at things differently. John Mara is also somebody that pays attention to what the fans have to say. He probably heard or was told how fans were salivating at the possibility of John Harbaugh. And now to have the rug pulled out because you want to go with Shane who the fan base can't stand, that's a way to lose your fans. That's a way to really get under their skin. Is that something that John would be motivated to try to avoid? Remember, I keep circling back to this guys. They gave Shane no contract extension. And the reason I believe they didn't is because of moments like this. If something arises where we can lose Joe, we're willing to do that. We'd like to keep him. We'd like to find a guy that would work with Joe Shane. But until we do, I'm not giving him a contract extension because I'm not going to let him stand in the way of getting the guy that we want. If they want John Harbaugh, they've got to do what they can to get him whether it's financially or whether it's allowing him to buy the groceries. I don't see how some standard, you know, has to get in the way. How is that standard work for this team over the last decade and a half? If you want John Harbaugh, then you got to play ball. And if you've got other teams that are willing to give him the farm, then you've got to think about the farm plus, don't you?

Alan (8:28)

I do, I do. I think when it comes to landing the big fish coach now, unless Mike Tomlin shakes free and then we start this whole thing all over again. Right. But I feel like if that's what it takes, I think that's got to be on the table. And the ironic thing, or not ironic but the funny thing is, is that it's, it's Joe Shane that'll be sitting at the table. Well, that'll have to say. Well if you want your own GM like he, he can't do that. Who's gonna do it, right?

Don Hahn (9:00)

Nobody. But you know it.

Alan (9:02)

Somebody has to though.

Don Hahn (9:03)

You know, I understand what Gary said that. What's a contract extension mean? These guys are all filthy rich. If they gave him a two year contract extension they could still fire them. But optics are still important, Alan. Right, sure. If you gave, if you announced on Monday Shane's coming Back and with it is a two year contract extension and then John Harbaugh becomes available and you fire Joe Shane so you can get John Harbaugh. As excited as the fans would be to get John Harbaugh, you would kind of look foolish, right? Five minutes ago you gave a general manager a contract extension, right? And then he's gone. So the optics of that would look bad. Well, you didn't promise Joe Shane anything. All you said was he's staying. He's going to lead the search for a head coach. Okay, we found a head coach. Thanks, Joe. He wants to bring in his own general manager.

Peter (9:53)

Goodbye.

Don Hahn (9:53)

We'll pay you this year and then you're done. Doesn't that look a lot better? If you believe in Joe Shane so much that you believe he is the general manager of the future of this franchise and the gold standard for the Giants is to always stick with their guys, then where's the contract extension? There was none. So I have to believe it's for moments like this. So how foolish would it be that Joe Shane's gonna stand in a way of you getting your head coach when he did, when you didn't even give.

Alan (10:20)

Him an extension if you know he wants the job? What you worry about now is because of course Miami's got to go through the process. They've got to interview other candidates. So we know you have time, right? You, you, if you get the opportunity to sit down with John Harbaugh, you've got to find out if that like are you going to a ready made situation? Like are you just comfortable in Miami because Kevin Stefanski is there now? Everybody feels like Kevin Stefanski is like, you know, that's, it's almost like taking an L, which I'm telling you that's not true. Mike McCarthy. Don, you've all. You've also talked about like there are options for the Giants, yes, there. But you don't want to sit and wait either. So if this is like, all right, I don't use setting something up, don't waste my time because if that's what you're trying to do, then just let us know. But if you, if you'd like to come here because it is the New York Football Giants, it is an iconic franchise and why wouldn't you want to take this job, then let us know what you want. And if that includes bringing in your own guy to run the front office, you can't tell Joe that. But you're gonna have to tell someone else that. Whether it's one of the marriage like, you're gonna have to tell somebody. That's gotta be. That message has to be relayed as soon as possible because otherwise you're wasting your time. Then it becomes a charade. He comes to New York, he sits down, he talks to you. But the whole time he knows, I'm going to Miami because they're hiring my gm. Now, that's going to be in the next couple of days. They're going to hire a GM in the next couple of days. And it seems like if Chad gets the job. Chad, by the way, with the Ravens, work with Joe Douglas. He had some jets time as well, and then he went over to LA with the Chargers. If that's the guy they hire, you kind of got to feel like it's a fait accompli. You got to feel like it. Right? Well, or somebody he's familiar with who was taught by Ozzie Newsom, who worked with Eric Dacosta, like, this is exactly why he would want to move, because it's somebody that he can trust.

Don Hahn (12:28)

Unless it's, you know, just a Hail Mary of I. I gotta try to win him over, and I'm gonna show the confidence by going out and hiring somebody I think he wants to work with. Like that old story I tell about, you know, when the jets were trying to persuade Reggie White to sign as a free agent before he left Philadelphia to go to Green Bay. And Reggie's like, well, I like it here. If only you had a quarterback. So the jets go out and sign Boomer Esiason, and Reggie still went to Green Bay. So if Miami does it right, they find out, like, if I hire this guy, will you come over? And he says, yes. All right, then you do it. But if they're just doing it, hoping to set things up, and they just cross their fingers and toes that they win the face off, then, you know, that's kind of what Miami's known to do. And I. I know it's a bad job because of the TUA situation, and the team has not done well recently, but that's still. The Miami Dolphins are still something. You know, turning that franchise around could still be a big deal, and it's south beach and all that, but please, you know, I know the Dolphins are bad, but you go, if you're a certain age, you remember the Dolphins as being, you know, one of the elite teams, and if you were able to turn that around, that could be. That could be a pretty good gig.

Peter (13:36)

I think. I think there are several things that make Miami very unattractive and Alan, we talked about this some, but one of them being that you're locked into a quarterback who is very unsure the history of the franchise now for a very long time not being very good. And I have to admit there's a part of me that is appealing as John, John Harbaugh is. I sort of like that the Giants aren't the capitulate, oh my God, we'll give you anything you want kind of franchise because I've seen, I've been a part of. When an organization does that and it's pathetic and it almost never works in the end you, you sell your soul to, to this, to this person who's usually on a retread. It's always a retread, right? Usually someone who hasn't had success for a while because if they had success recently, they'd still be there. And on this retread you go, oh my God, we're so down. What do you want? The team is yours. We'll put your face on the helmet. Anything to get you. I don't think real big time organizations should do that, honestly.

Don Hahn (14:33)

But, but there, there is somewhere in between, right Peter, that you don't want to have to go all gaga, but at the same time at least open up the lanes for the possibility of getting the head coach that you want.

Peter (14:45)

Well, it's not that big a deal. If you're saying all that is now is getting rid of a GM who frankly you're barely married to anyways, got one year on his deal, then why not?

Don Hahn (14:56)

See, giving him the keys to the franchise would be if I just gave Shane a five year contract extension and then fired him. Right, but the fact that you didn't give him an extension, I really don't think you're moving mountains to bring John Harbaugh here. Just listening to him and saying how bad do you want him? And you know the old days where all these owners knew each other and nobody stepped on each other's toes, you could kind of act that way. But now if you see other franchises are, you know, giving the moon and the stars and are really, you know, given the ultimate pitch then, and you're a franchise that hasn't done anything recently and really been embarrassing over the last three years, I'm sorry, you're going to have to make some necessary adjustments. I do think the Giants are one of the flagship franchises in the NFL. But with the Giants to walk into a room like to the big bad Giants after the last three years and really since Eli Manning won his last Super Bowl That's a joke. You're not. You don't. You don't have that. You've got your hat in the hand like every other team in the NFL. Yeah, you're attractive. He's got the quarterback, and it's New York City and all that, but you're. You're laying in the weeds of some bad franchises that. That might be willing to give a little bit more. So if you want to compete, man, you just can't say, I'm the Giants. That's it. You're gonna have to sell. You're gonna have to. You're gonna have to pitch a bit, a little bit to get this done.

Alan (16:14)

And that. What I said. That's what I said. They're not. The Giants in some of these interview processes are not selling. Not having the. The coach sell me on your program. So, no, the Giants trying to sell them to these experienced coaches. This is why you want to come here. Here's why, despite how bad we've been the last couple of years, you can come here and win right away. Here's what we've got for you. That's like, if you're Joe Shane, you're literally selling your whole ability to draft to. To figure out player personnel, that whole system. You've come up with all your analytics.

Don Hahn (16:49)

You.

Alan (16:50)

You're selling that to someone because they haven't hired an experienced coach in Tom Coughlin. Right. They haven't done that. So now they're trying to do that. And you got to give a coach like that a reason to want to come to you when there's seven other jobs open.

Peter (17:04)

Don, I think it's important at this point in the show that we correct Allen on the pronunciation of the coaching candidate's name in the first place.

Don Hahn (17:14)

Yeah, you missed that.

Alan (17:16)

God, you have to.

Peter (17:17)

You didn't know the age. You didn't know that.

Don Hahn (17:20)

It's very G in.

Peter (17:24)

Was. You missed a. You missed Rich Richard on fire yesterday.

Alan (17:28)

Yo. Ha. Bog sounds like a town in Long Island.

Peter (17:30)

It really does.

Alan (17:31)

It really does sound like a Long island town. Halbog. Long Island.

Don Hahn (17:35)

In. In the defense of Richard, there is.

Alan (17:37)

Like Hop Hog and Patchog put together.

Peter (17:40)

But. But here's the thing about Richard that makes him amazing. I believe it's a testament to Richard's level of Captain Literal man, because he. He watches and listens to enough sports, guys. He absolutely knows that everyone pronounces his name Harbaugh. He's been. He listens to the radio all day. He watches every event and listens to every event that happens. This means he says he's Ron Burgundy. He sees a G, he says G.

Don Hahn (18:10)

Because I was just gonna say this. This might be. If you're looking into. If you want to picture him making the phone call and if you saw the movie. The fan.

Alan (18:20)

Yes.

Peter (18:20)

The Wesley Snipes vehicle.

Don Hahn (18:22)

No, not the Wesley Snipes vehicle. The Peyton Oswald vehicle.

Peter (18:25)

Yes, the Patton Oswald vehicle.

Alan (18:27)

Patton Peyton.

Don Hahn (18:29)

Where he made his phone calls and Rapaport. Right. But when he. When. When the fan called the. It was like Scott Farrell, who was actually the host.

Peter (18:38)

Oh, yeah. I watched this, too. Yeah, you had me watch this. I enjoyed it.

Don Hahn (18:40)

He took notes. I think we found out that Richard is taking notes because we know he listens to sports radio. We know he knows sports, but he writes all his thoughts down, and in the moment, he becomes Ron Burgundy, and he read John Harbaugh the way it was written down. So I think this is. Now we peered into. We got the visual of the phone call where he's. He's got one of those yellow notepads, and he's reading off a script.

Alan (19:10)

You think he's got a head, and he's just, like.

Don Hahn (19:13)

He's got.

Alan (19:13)

Just scratched all kinds of notes down, and he's trying to get it all out, and at that moment, he just saw the GH and went for it. Hot dog. Nah.

Don Hahn (19:23)

And then. And then, remember that call a few months ago where he actually, like, literally repeated exactly what he just said?

Alan (19:28)

Yep.

Don Hahn (19:29)

He just lost his place.

Alan (19:30)

Yeah. Went right back to it.

Don Hahn (19:32)

So I think we just found out a little bit of information, but keep doing it. I wasn't sure we took the Last Call crew after you left, Alan.

Alan (19:39)

Yep.

Don Hahn (19:40)

And we had a full bank, and I want to get as many as we could.

Alan (19:42)

And you went to Richard first?

Don Hahn (19:43)

Do I go to Richard? It was worth it. It really was. It really was.

Peter (19:49)

1-800-919-3776. We're starting off talking about the Giants here, but we'll get to the Knicks. There's a lot of different things to get to today. We got old Gilberto in the truck. What's up, buddy?

Gilberto (20:02)

What's up, my guys? John. What's up, Han? And what's up, Peter? You looking in the market? They're gonna be looking for you for another day job or morning job, so don't get too comfortable.

Peter (20:16)

We're enjoying doing the. The Ebro Laura Rosenberg podcast situation. Every dad, I don't know, there's gonna be another morning job for your guy. Except working on my own.

Gilberto (20:26)

I want to bring up this point, I want to shoot down all the bad mobile mumbo jumbo or whatever you call that, you know what I'm saying that they're doing with the harbor, okay? I'm Puerto Rican, I know how to pronounce his name.

Alan (20:39)

There you go.

Gilberto (20:39)

Okay, Now Pablo's coming to the Giants. The guy from Cleveland is going to Tennessee and McCarthy, Michael Coffee is going to Miami, okay? And I'm gonna tell you, and then I'll leave you with that thought. I'm telling you why hobo's coming here. Harbor's wife does not want her going to Miami with all those bikini clad females walking half nude through the street, okay? She ain't having it. She wants him with a nice place up in. Up where you live at home, you know what I'm saying? Somewhere nice up there where he could get a nice little limousine ride to the Giant stadium and do his thing. Let me know what you think about that. And by the way, God, you killed me with that 29.99 I love you phone call. But some butch picked up and I wasn't lonely anymore. You killed. You know, the Internet was flying over that comment, bro. You guys are chemistry in motion. Take care, guys.

Peter (21:45)

There's a lot I would like.

Don Hahn (21:46)

I wouldn't think much of John's marriage if she didn't trust him in south beach because of all the scantily clad women walking around the city and that.

Peter (21:56)

This, listen, I understand there are phonies every day, but that this 63 year old religious family man is gonna, who's done nothing but probably be in an office in a football building the last.

Alan (22:06)

30 years with a college age daughter.

Peter (22:08)

Is gonna just start running. Well, you know what we have seen it is some elderly football coaches do similar things. But I don't expect that from Jim Harbaugh or John Harbaugh or any of the hard nothing that he said in that call respectfully made sense. Well, even being Puerto Rican as an understanding of the pronunciation of Harbaugh, well.

Alan (22:29)

That was, that was not a typical Latin name. I just. The fact that he said like where I live to go to Giants, like the last place you want to live is here, if you're going to go there.

Peter (22:41)

And then he, and then he asked me about, and then he said, you know, he said something nice. And if you guys recall, Gil is the caller who the other day said he loves me on the morning show. We had to tell him there is no morning show.

Alan (22:53)

Remember that. Now he's telling you, don't you know.

Peter (22:55)

Now he's saying, watch out. There's gonna be a lot of interest in you. And when I responded and tried to plug what I'm doing, and I went, well, you know, Ebro, Laura Rosenberg, we're doing a show every day, he had no interest. He went, all right, well, good luck.

Alan (23:06)

Yeah, no point. You see that? No, no, he moved on. No, no.

Don Hahn (23:11)

Yeah, there was a lot going on there.

Alan (23:12)

But we love. We love. We love Gilbert.

Peter (23:14)

We love Gilbert.

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Alan (24:02)

I hope people hear some Christopher Cross tonight. I gotta check. I see what's on the. The old set list.

Peter (24:08)

Oh, you have a set list?

Don Hahn (24:09)

Oh, I want to hear it.

Alan (24:09)

I gotta look it up.

Don Hahn (24:10)

No, you gotta look it up. I want to hear that. That'd be really good. Enn.

Alan (24:14)

You know, it'd be really good, too, Don, if you had a mic stand.

Don Hahn (24:20)

I forgot the package.

Alan (24:22)

You didn't bring a mic?

Don Hahn (24:23)

I'm setting everything up. Out of all the things to forget, that's the thing to forget now.

Alan (24:28)

Peter, did you. I don't know. I know you're in the studio, which, by the way, good for you. Second of all, I don't know if you can look on the screen, but Don is giving off Phil Donahue vibes. Like, he's just.

Peter (24:38)

Oh, he's holding the mic.

Don Hahn (24:40)

Oh, yeah, he's running up.

Peter (24:42)

He's running up to the guy in the third row.

Unknown Caller (24:48)

You know how this works when he's home, it's like.

Alan (24:50)

It's like you could see. Don just took me like he's going to Miami. What do you think?

Unknown Caller (24:54)

At the end of the show, I go, don't headphones. Comrex. I didn't mention Mike. Mike. Stan, you didn't, so really it's my fault.

Alan (25:02)

How about. What about Alan's ring light? What about the thing I got him? That did that make the trip an all in one?

Don Hahn (25:09)

That one was not very simple.

Alan (25:12)

Just take it with you, Don. It goes right there. It's simple.

Don Hahn (25:16)

He just, he won't.

Peter (25:17)

Why didn't you bring it?

Don Hahn (25:18)

You know what isn't room? I got a carry on bag and I got all this equipment. It's what he gave me is pretty, pretty happy.

Peter (25:24)

And did you fly, did you fly commercial yesterday?

Don Hahn (25:27)

I flew commercial, yes. If I was flying with the team, by all means, I would have brought it with me.

Alan (25:31)

It is. It is. It. I purpose.

Peter (25:33)

It doesn't fit in a carry on folds.

Alan (25:35)

It breaks down. It folds up easy.

Don Hahn (25:37)

Well, I had a cat, but I got, I've got my suit, my clothes, and I got all the equipment, the Comrex, the microphone, all that. And then I just forgot the stand. And that's the one thing I could forget. Anything else would have definitely disrupted the broadcast. But I do look like Phil Donahue. For people that don't know who you're talking about because he's been off the air for 20 years.

Alan (25:58)

He was my favorite.

Don Hahn (25:59)

He married Marlo Thomas. Great job.

Alan (26:01)

Yeah, I don't know. That's a win.

Don Hahn (26:03)

And he didn't go the whole you're not the father. No, but he had like wacky topics.

Alan (26:09)

But he interviewed his audience and got them involved in the conversation.

Don Hahn (26:12)

Oh, and running like he would sprint up like the. The rafters to talk to the person in the back row.

Alan (26:20)

By the way, Don, Don Pablo in the chat says that you have no respect for the gift.

Peter (26:26)

It's not. It's not feeling like it.

Alan (26:28)

And now I'm feeling like this. If you really. And I like, I think we should always be honest with each other. Like, I don't like, I feel you always say I'm sensitive, but really I just like to poke the bear. I also, I don't take it personally if you're like, you know, look, I'm never going to use it. Give it back to me and I will return it.

Don Hahn (26:45)

No, I will try with returning you. I don't need it at home because I've got the laptop.

Alan (26:52)

Well, no, you do you need it at home. I. I can count the boogers in your nose. Okay, like we. You definitely need it at home. A straight up.

Don Hahn (27:00)

I will try it at home then. But again then, now it means I got to use my iPad, which I use for the call screener or the phone, which I use to stay in touch with everybody. So it will work perfectly on the road when I'm able to fit it into either my carry on or if I'm going with the team, I'll tell you what, it'll be on the trip this weekend. We're going to Winnipeg. Saturday. I'm going with the team Sunday afternoon, Winnipeg. There's no show but Monday in Minnesota. I will have it with me, and you'll see it in all its glory.

Alan (27:30)

Peter, yes or no? Think he'll do it? All right.

Don Hahn (27:34)

Odds. Odds that I have it Monday or that Damian Woody will tell us that he watched Napoleon.

Peter (27:40)

Oh, no, wait. He didn't even do it over the holiday.

Unknown Caller (27:44)

Don's gonna bring Alan's gift.

Don Hahn (27:46)

Yes.

Peter (27:49)

Now, we agree we can't bring it up after today, right?

Don Hahn (27:51)

No, we're gonna continue to bring it up until he absolutely is humiliated enough to finally watch it. Because now the holidays are over. He can't keep talking about no. Watch the Hallmark Channel.

Alan (28:00)

The Hallmark movies now have gone to that place where no man should watch.

Don Hahn (28:03)

Yeah.

Peter (28:03)

Or woman.

Alan (28:04)

They're back there. He.

Don Hahn (28:05)

He.

Peter (28:05)

And I hope that after, like, us prodding him for two years, he finally watches it. Like, so what do you think? He's, like, not a fan.

Don Hahn (28:12)

Well, now we built it up too much, right?

Peter (28:15)

Yeah. Can you like a movie when you've been forced to watch it for, you know, years? That's hard to say.

Don Hahn (28:20)

That's what happened to me with Forrest Gump. I didn't see Forrest Gump until it came out on video.

Peter (28:25)

And by the time you got to it, not when I thought it was.

Don Hahn (28:27)

Good, but, like, it didn't live up to the hype because I didn't see it in the theater and all the awards and everything. So I was expecting, like, sparks to come out, and that didn't happen.

Peter (28:37)

That is the hard part with movies, if you get to it, too.

Don Hahn (28:39)

Yeah. And I think I got to Forrest Gump too late, and I. Well, listen, he's already too late for Napoleon Dynamite. It came out, like, 25 years ago. But the fact that we requested on the air for him to watch it and this. If he admits today he didn't see it, that's a month. That's disrespect.

Peter (28:57)

You think it's just that he doesn't care for us?

Don Hahn (28:59)

Well, no, he's just. He's leading us down the primrose path. He had no intention of ever watching it, and he's. He's playing with us.

Peter (29:06)

There's no worse path than Primrose. 1-800-9193776. Let's go to Brian in Sleepy Hollow. To talk some hot dog. What do you got, Brian?

Brian (29:17)

Hot dog. I just wanted to say my dad, God rest his soul, for the life of him, you know, he'd watch every Giant game, Giant fan, but it would always be Tom Coughlin. Tom, you know, he's from Brooklyn.

Alan (29:33)

Yeah.

Brian (29:33)

And it was like, you know, I, you know, Richard's listening right now and he's hearing all these corrections. Is he going to say, is he.

Gilberto (29:41)

Going to say Harbaugh ever?

Brian (29:42)

No, but. Yeah, that's the type of guy.

Peter (29:46)

Is almost next level beyond Harbaugh.

Alan (29:49)

Yeah.

Don Hahn (29:49)

That's interesting. Did you ever correct him?

Unknown Caller (29:53)

Of course.

Peter (29:53)

Yeah.

Brian (29:53)

I'd be like, cough. Like Lynn cough. But.

Peter (29:57)

But there's an H. There was Horfing. There was an H there though, for the cough.

Brian (30:04)

I know. Yeah, but Coughlin. No, that, you know, he's. He was an Irish. An Irish NYPD cop. So, you know, kind of hard headed. But.

Alan (30:15)

Coughlin is Irish though. I know.

Brian (30:18)

But supposedly in Ireland they say Coglin or whatever.

Don Hahn (30:22)

That's not. That might.

Brian (30:23)

That would always be his point.

Alan (30:24)

No, that might. That. That's a fair point. That's a good one.

Brian (30:30)

With the, with the Giants in Miami. As a Jets fan, I just want to say, you know, I hope he goes Atlanta. I. Even though I do think he's going to end up on the Giants just because I just can't picture a Minaqua, that's all. Have a good day, guys.

Don Hahn (30:44)

Well, listen, I don't. I do the same thing I was telling somebody the other day, like when I was a kid, if there were trade rumors, I would try to picture in my mind that player wearing that uniform. And if I couldn't do it, I'd say then it's never going to happen. And more times than not, I was right.

Peter (30:59)

But the thing about coaches are they don't wear uniforms. No, but they.

Don Hahn (31:02)

But he'll wear the hat, right. Have aqua on somewhere.

Peter (31:06)

It is hard to picture.

Don Hahn (31:07)

No, I don't know. I can't picture it. Well, only because we only know him.

Peter (31:12)

As the Ravens coach and they're coming off of, you know, the most nosily looking, capri pants wearing, you know, Gen Z looking coach of all time. So it's a weird. The Mike McDaniel to John Harbaugh is tough.

Unknown Caller (31:27)

You take. In a heartbeat, though.

Peter (31:29)

You take what.

Unknown Caller (31:30)

You would take him as your OC in a heartbeat.

Don Hahn (31:31)

Sure you would.

Peter (31:32)

That's totally. I mean that's like.

Unknown Caller (31:33)

And he loves Dan Quinn. Saved his life.

Don Hahn (31:35)

I know.

Peter (31:36)

I've heard them wax poetic about Each other.

Don Hahn (31:38)

It's funny with dad. My father. I think I told you this, Peter. He always said wrestling. Never said wrestling.

Peter (31:45)

No matter what.

Don Hahn (31:47)

Taylor. David. I'm going to take it to the wrestling this weekend.

Alan (31:52)

Wrestling sounds very southern.

Peter (31:54)

Yeah, it is. It's more southern slang.

Don Hahn (31:57)

Refused to be corrected on it.

Alan (32:00)

Did he say like charisma instead of charisma?

Don Hahn (32:03)

No, just for whatever I listen. He was probably just making fun of my brother.

Alan (32:07)

Oh wow.

Don Hahn (32:08)

But that's the way he always referred to it.

Peter (32:10)

Oh yeah. He was probably here with my family.

Don Hahn (32:13)

Sure, we understand it. 1-800-919 not even. Not even play. Compare my dad to that fraud Brian.

Peter (32:24)

No, his dad was doing an intentional mocking southern accent. Brian Kelly was pretending to be southern.

Don Hahn (32:29)

He was saying like me. Well, you like me.

Peter (32:33)

Is there any. Let's. Can we just be honest across all sports, is there a more unlikable group percentage wise than big time college football head coaches? Yeah, it's Don. Tell me I'm wrong in sports.

Don Hahn (32:48)

Yes.

Alan (32:49)

Like if you sports things to hate.

Peter (32:51)

Of all the sports groups you could hate players from a league, coaches from a league, referees, you name it. I think D nozzle per capita. There is nothing higher than like big time D1 college football coach.

Alan (33:04)

Can I throw in baseball agents?

Peter (33:07)

Agents are almost cheating. But I hear what you're saying.

Don Hahn (33:09)

Yeah.

Alan (33:10)

We don't have a field that are just insufferable.

Peter (33:13)

Yeah but agents are like meant to be insufferable. It's like supposed to be.

Alan (33:16)

That's they're doing their job.

Don Hahn (33:17)

And you wanted to during college football season on that guy Thursday, which is today. It could be a college coach every week.

Peter (33:23)

Yeah, we really could. And you know what? Oh, forget it. We got. We finally have something to do that makes me interested in college football. Next college football season let's do a yearly rankings because you know they love rankings in College Football Top 10D nozzle coaches and like they can go up and down in the rankings based on the year.

Brian (33:42)

Well, what are we going to do.

Unknown Caller (33:43)

From 2 to 10? Because Lane Kiffin's number one.

Alan (33:45)

Yeah, that's a cool.

Peter (33:46)

That's the thing. And you're all chasing Lane Kiffin. We'll get to that later.

Alan (33:49)

You know who's climbing the charts despite his great success?

Peter (33:52)

Who's that?

Alan (33:53)

Kurt Signetti.

Peter (33:55)

What's he. What? Why? What's he been doing?

Alan (33:57)

It's. It's starting to like. It's starting to become a bit much like he does have some moments and I've seen some clips of him you know, talking about leadership and programs and all that stuff. It's really good. But there are other times, like, you saw the thing with McAfee where McAfee's like, standing, and it's amazing that the camera was right behind him. The timing of that.

Peter (34:18)

And what happened. What happened?

Alan (34:20)

And right before Signetti led Indiana out on the field in the quarterfinal, he gave McAfee a nod, but it was one of those, like, you know, tough guy nods. And then they ran out. It was like the signal. Oh, yeah.

Peter (34:38)

All right, buddy.

Alan (34:39)

If that wasn't like. We just. Let's just focus. Like, could you see Nick Saban doing that?

Peter (34:46)

Saban's still a nozzle, too.

Alan (34:47)

Oh, come on.

Peter (34:48)

No, he is.

Alan (34:49)

No, no. I mean, he's not like that.

Peter (34:51)

No. He's a different kind of college football.

Alan (34:53)

Wasn't ever doing anything to try to impress you. His give a rip about you that.

Peter (34:57)

Well, that's somebody else. That was his version of nozzle was holier than thou and better than commercial.

Alan (35:02)

Where he pretends to be a bed and breakfast owner.

Don Hahn (35:06)

Right?

Alan (35:06)

Yeah.

Don Hahn (35:06)

Yeah, yeah.

Alan (35:07)

I think that's really him. I just think that's who he is.

Peter (35:11)

Don, I would like you to do a special list sometime soon of the top 5 most nozzle ish college coaches of all time.

Alan (35:18)

I like that. That's a great list to do.

Peter (35:19)

It come with audio? You bring audio with it? You kidding me?

Don Hahn (35:22)

You've. You've given me time, which I'm going to need because that's. That's expansive.

Peter (35:27)

It's going to take some work.

Don Hahn (35:28)

Because what you're basically saying is, is that that should be the name of the position. Like the head nozzle of a college football team.

Peter (35:35)

Right.

Don Hahn (35:36)

Not the head coach. You're the head nozzle. Because they're all at some level of nozzle. Because let's face it, they're the stars of the university. Right? Because they're the ones that are supposed to stick around even though they don't these days.

Peter (35:46)

They don't.

Don Hahn (35:46)

Sure. But they still stick around longer than the star players.

Peter (35:50)

Have they. Guys, when did it. Oh, here's a great question. When did the college football coach truly transition into being a nozzle? And is it someone like Jimmy Johnson who, like, you know, is kind of lovable but still turned it into being the.

Don Hahn (36:11)

Yes, I think that's the guy.

Peter (36:12)

Because they all was Bobby Bowden, a.

Don Hahn (36:15)

Nozzle, but they all carried a certain kind of like a dignity, a poise to them.

Peter (36:21)

Yeah.

Don Hahn (36:22)

You think of all the old thugs, Woody Hayes Obviously, when he punched somebody from Clemson, that. That ended it for him. But for the most part, they were all like, almost like US Senators, right? They just. The way they carried themselves and the suit, the tie, and the hats. And then Jimmy came, and his hair was a little bit longer, and he's screaming, and the whole criminal aspect of it with the criminals versus the Catholics with Notre Dame, and it felt like Jimmy was the first guy to give it a little personality and go there.

Peter (36:52)

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to think of. I mean, Lou Holtz wasn't a nozzle, was he?

Don Hahn (36:57)

Well, to Jet fans, he was when he resigned with, like, two weeks left in the season.

Peter (37:00)

Sure, that's a different kind, but no.

Don Hahn (37:03)

He was definitely different, though.

Alan (37:04)

Oh, yeah.

Don Hahn (37:06)

He was never, like, stately.

Alan (37:08)

I couldn't imagine him addressing a room and everybody just being fired up to play.

Peter (37:12)

I feel like the nozzle really came into play in college football in the. Over the last 20 years. Yeah, it got greasy is when it got really greasy.

Alan (37:19)

30, if you want to really get. Get back to the. To the 90s. Yeah, I think when it got real greasy, that's. That's when it started happening.

Peter (37:28)

Let's go to David and Elizabeth. What's up, David?

Don Hahn (37:30)

What's up, David?

Peter (37:34)

All right.

Don Hahn (37:35)

Yeah, well, he. He at least thought about clock integrity.

Gilberto (37:38)

Hot dog.

Peter (37:39)

Yeah, I thought we could get till 44.

Don Hahn (37:41)

Geez.

Peter (37:42)

All right, Anthony Pusick, thanks for listening.

Rosenberg (37:46)

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Peter (37:49)

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

Rosenberg (37:50)

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Alan (38:01)

H Dog, right? Or Harbog.

Gilberto (38:05)

H Dog.

Alan (38:06)

So I have. I have a. They have a list of, like, what. What the typical set list is for this tour.

Don Hahn (38:15)

Yeah.

Alan (38:16)

Okay. Openers. Theme from the Greatest American Hero.

Peter (38:22)

Oh, I'm into it.

Alan (38:23)

Not bad for an opener, right?

Don Hahn (38:25)

Yeah.

Alan (38:25)

Tell you what, what a fool believes. That feels very cliche. Well.

Peter (38:28)

Well, hold on.

Alan (38:30)

It's just like.

Peter (38:32)

It's cliche, but you have to do it.

Alan (38:33)

It's. It's Wheelhouse. Yeah. Somebody's Baby Jackson Brown. That makes sense. Right, then we go. Brandy.

Don Hahn (38:40)

Oh, Looking Glass.

Alan (38:41)

Yeah. Africa. Of course. Low down. Little Boss Skaggs. Oh, some Kenny Loggins. Heart to heart.

Don Hahn (38:50)

Love it. Well, that's got Michael McDonald in the background.

Peter (38:53)

Heart to Heart is maybe Kenny Loggins best.

Alan (38:56)

What's up, boo?

Don Hahn (38:56)

It was his birthday yesterday.

Peter (38:58)

Kenny. Yeah, he's like 78.

Alan (39:01)

He did not play any of that.

Peter (39:02)

No, can't be 82.

Don Hahn (39:03)

I refuse. Double check that. Anthony.

Alan (39:07)

Peg. Steely Dan 78.

Peter (39:10)

I nailed it. Thank you.

Alan (39:11)

Click some hollow notes. Can't go for that.

Don Hahn (39:15)

I can't go for that.

Alan (39:16)

And then this is the encore. Late in the set, you get some pina colada song Escape.

Don Hahn (39:21)

Okay.

Alan (39:22)

Another boss. Skaggs Lido Shuffle.

Don Hahn (39:25)

Oh, that's my favorite.

Alan (39:26)

Christopher Cross, Ride like the Wind. Get the people going. Hell, yeah. And then we slow it down with hall and Oats. She's gone.

Don Hahn (39:32)

Thanks.

Alan (39:33)

Which I think is an underrated song.

Peter (39:34)

Oh, it's classic, soulful love.

Don Hahn (39:36)

She's gone.

Alan (39:37)

Hold the line, Toto.

Don Hahn (39:39)

All right.

Alan (39:40)

And then Jerry Rafferty, Little Baker Street. Oh, I like Baker Street. Did you ever hear the. The COVID that. Oh, who did? There was a. There's a great cover of Baker Street. Yay. I guess not.

Peter (39:58)

I'm not familiar with it.

Don Hahn (40:00)

I know the original.

Alan (40:00)

I thought. I thought Don would know it.

Don Hahn (40:02)

No, I. I don't.

Peter (40:03)

I don't remember what Baker street is.

Alan (40:04)

Fighters. Yeah. Yeah, that's the other Foo Fighters did a cover of it, and it's like. Grow is amazing. It's really good.

Don Hahn (40:15)

And the other Rafferty is right down the line.

Alan (40:19)

Yep. Very good.

Don Hahn (40:20)

Now, the little quick ESPN factoid related in some way Jerry Rafferty to Gordon Damer. So his whole life, whenever a song of his would come on, it would be like his mom saying, you know, he's your second uncle or cousin or whatever. And that all changed with Reservoir Dogs because he was the lead singer of Steelers Wheel. So whenever that song came on, it was so powerful in the movie that it never reminded him of being related to him. All he ever thinks about now is the ear scene in Reservoir Dog.

Alan (40:58)

Oh, God. Yeah, that scene.

Don Hahn (41:00)

That's. The music has an impact in a theme.

Alan (41:03)

Tough scene.

Don Hahn (41:04)

Theater.

Peter (41:04)

I. It's so funny. I did not, up until doing Whitish Wednesday, you would have had to kill me to know that Steelers Wheel was the artist of stuck in the middle with you.

Don Hahn (41:14)

But he says it in the. In the movie.

Peter (41:17)

I mean, I've seen Reservoir Dogs, like, twice, but I don't.

Don Hahn (41:21)

See. That's the. That's where. That's the problem.

Peter (41:22)

But that's. That shouldn't be.

Don Hahn (41:24)

Even if that's not how.

Peter (41:25)

That's not how a band should be famous because they got mentioned in a cult class.

Don Hahn (41:28)

No, what I'm saying to you is, unless you said, I only see Reservoir.

Peter (41:32)

Dogs twice a week, that's the only.

Don Hahn (41:34)

Way you've only seen it twice, maybe three times is an abomination.

Peter (41:38)

Don, not everyone Watches movies. I'm not agreeing with Michael K. I'm not gonna go Michael K. Who thinks you're a freak and only watches movie once and never wants to think about it again. But I'm also not you, who may watch a movie that he loves 12 times a year. There's a. There's a middle ground. How many times, how many times you think you've seen Reservoir Dogs?

Don Hahn (41:57)

At least a hundred. At least.

Peter (42:00)

And that's legitimate. A hundred? Yeah.

Don Hahn (42:02)

Because anytime it's on, I watch it comes on, I get sucked. Because it's amazing.

Peter (42:07)

How many Is it the movie you've seen the most?

Don Hahn (42:11)

No, I would say the movie I probably have seen the most is Goodfellas. And what.

Peter (42:15)

Where do you think we're at with Goodfellas? Nearly three hour film by the way?

Don Hahn (42:19)

Maybe 120. 125.

Peter (42:21)

That's like you spent like weeks of your life watching Goodfellas.

Alan (42:26)

Think about it. If you put the hour.

Peter (42:28)

Yeah, I'm gonna do the math right now actually.

Don Hahn (42:30)

Hold on.

Peter (42:31)

Jacob, tell me how long that movie is on the dot. I need to get this. Figure this out.

Don Hahn (42:35)

It's not three hours.

Peter (42:36)

It's at least 240.

Alan (42:38)

Pushing it.

Peter (42:39)

It's not as long as you think it is because I used to think of it as like very close to three. It's not. It's like 2:35. 240 is my guess. Jacob will tell me we're gonna do the math here and figure this all out.

Don Hahn (42:50)

If you catch it, I runtime 226.

Peter (42:52)

226.

Don Hahn (42:53)

That's nothing.

Peter (42:54)

And you think you've watched it 120 times?

Don Hahn (42:56)

Yeah.

Peter (42:57)

And I'm going to divide that by 60 to see how many hours you've watched it. So you spent 452 hours. I'm going to divide that by 24. Don has spent 18 days watching Goodfellas.

Don Hahn (43:12)

Yeah, well I'm you know, 57 year old man. And that came out in 1990. So the movie is 35 years old.

Peter (43:19)

90 or 92? 90.

Don Hahn (43:21)

90 on the dot.

Brian (43:22)

Yeah, it came on 90.

Alan (43:23)

The guy seen times. You're going to question him.

Peter (43:26)

Sorry, any.

Don Hahn (43:27)

Where do you stand on this, Alan?

Alan (43:29)

Where I stand on what?

Peter (43:30)

Seeing a movie.

Don Hahn (43:31)

120 Reservoir Dogs. I will admit that I'm a freak, but I think he's equally a freak on the other side having only seen it twice.

Alan (43:40)

Each his own. I'm just for you, Don, I would say that it's comfort food, right? Like something you enjoy. Like I'm the same way. If.

Don Hahn (43:47)

If.

Alan (43:47)

Don't ask me how many times I've seen the different Star wars movies. All right? Peter, Will doesn't have a calculator that can handle that. So, you know, and. And you can mock it all you want, but it's just. Since 19. Think about since 1977.

Peter (44:01)

How many you think you're at? A hundred times. The Star Wars.

Alan (44:04)

Jesus. No, way more than that.

Peter (44:06)

Way more than 100 way. With. With all of your time in the first three, right?

Alan (44:10)

No, all of them.

Peter (44:11)

What you're talking about Even like Jar Jar Binks.

Alan (44:13)

Yeah, that's probably the one I've seen the least. Which is the first one.

Peter (44:17)

So. So even terrible. So the most. When was the most recent one?

Alan (44:22)

Oh, God, like, what. What was it, 10 years ago?

Peter (44:24)

And so.

Don Hahn (44:25)

So how much?

Alan (44:25)

Less than that. Less than that. Five years. It was. It was an awful, awful ending. That and Stranger Things both have me in a. I'm tight about the end, so.

Don Hahn (44:33)

So how much?

Peter (44:34)

Like the most recent Star wars or the one before that? How many times have you seen that?

Alan (44:39)

No, I've watched those regularly. Man.

Peter (44:40)

Like, you.

Don Hahn (44:41)

You just.

Peter (44:41)

You just sit and watch all of them all the time.

Alan (44:44)

Not all the time, but something killing time. Throw it on.

Peter (44:48)

Wow.

Don Hahn (44:49)

Because you can.

Alan (44:49)

Like, it's one of those things you don't have to watch start to finish.

Don Hahn (44:51)

It's just right. Yeah. See that, that's where I would say.

Alan (44:54)

Catch a scene here and there.

Don Hahn (44:56)

Have I seen Reservoir Dogs opening credits to closing credits a hundred times? Probably not, right? Have I watched a portion of it over a hundred times? Absolutely. Like, if I get to the hotel, like last night, I was exhausted and it was late, but if I had gotten in a normal time flip on the tv, all of a sudden, Reservoir Dogs was on. Fifteen minutes into the movie, I'm watching the rest of them.

Alan (45:17)

That's it. Correct. And you know how many times all the Star wars movies are on the various channels randomly on a weekend?

Peter (45:23)

Now, if it makes you feel any better. If it makes you feel any better, Don, I am much closer to relating to you on watching Reservoir Dogs 100 times in the Star wars movie.

Don Hahn (45:30)

I don't get the Star wars either, but I. But I understand that when I was.

Peter (45:34)

When I was a kid.

Alan (45:35)

You don't.

Peter (45:35)

When I was a kid, I saw the original Star Wars 18 times over my childhood, but it was always watching because my brother was watching it. And I'll be honest, I was bored to tears all 18 times.

Don Hahn (45:44)

I wasn't bored. It's Just that I got over it. Like, I saw it. It was cool. It was one of the great. Because the first three. Right. So Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Returning to Jedi. We went as a family, the lagrega family. The four of us all went to see those movies when they came out.

Alan (46:00)

Right.

Don Hahn (46:00)

I thought it was cool. And then. And then we had hbo. They come on, you watch, and then I just kind of outgrew it. It just wasn't my thing.

Alan (46:07)

Right.

Don Hahn (46:07)

But I get it. So it's. It's Alan's thing, so I'm not gonna get. Get on him for it. It's just not. Oh, great. It's not my thing. But there's got to be a movie for you, Peter.

Peter (46:14)

Oh, I have a lot of.

Don Hahn (46:16)

When it's on. You're gonna watch.

Peter (46:17)

There are lots. There are a lot of. There are a lot of movies that I have. Goodfellas I basically would watch anytime it's on. I still. I'm still nowhere near a hundred.

Don Hahn (46:26)

I'd say.

Peter (46:26)

I'd say Goodfellas I met 20, 25 times. Dumb and dumb, where I probably watch 75 times.

Alan (46:34)

On brand.

Don Hahn (46:35)

Right? Yeah.

Peter (46:36)

For great comedy. Exactly. Right. You know, Old school. I've watched 30 times.

Don Hahn (46:44)

Stuff like on the other day.

Peter (46:46)

It's very hard to turn off Old School anytime it comes on. Right.

Alan (46:49)

Yeah.

Peter (46:50)

You know, there's a lot.

Alan (46:51)

Wedding. Wedding Crashers is one I'll watch.

Peter (46:54)

That's a very easy one.

Alan (46:55)

That's one that's just on repeat. Never, never will.

Peter (46:57)

Crab cakes and football, for sure. There's a lot of. There's definitely a lot of them. I just don't know any of them go that.

Alan (47:04)

What.

Don Hahn (47:05)

What's it.

Alan (47:05)

How about. How about quickly here? What. What would then be like a guilty pleasure? Embarrassing, but I can never say no to it. Oh, we all have to have that one where it's like someone's catch. You watching. You're like, oh, I was just on.

Don Hahn (47:19)

I've said my many times. If you pay attention, I always use it as my example. It's my go to. And that's Biodome, which, by the way.

Peter (47:28)

It'S embarrassment, sure, but it's still on brand for you. A random 90s crappy poly shore comedy.

Don Hahn (47:34)

And I watch it. I acknowledge that. The. The writing, the. The casting, the. The plot, everything is. It's awful, but for whatever reason, I get caught up.

Peter (47:45)

What about Airheads Fan?

Don Hahn (47:47)

That's not. Not to the level of Biodome, but it's the same thing.

Peter (47:51)

What's yours, Alan? You clearly Have.

Alan (47:53)

Yes, of course I do.

Peter (47:54)

What's yours?

Alan (47:55)

And I've mentioned this many times as well, Pretty Woman.

Peter (47:57)

But Pretty Woman's, like considered a classic.

Alan (48:00)

It's a good movie. Yeah, but I mean, come on, like.

Don Hahn (48:02)

What is the Bachelor?

Alan (48:04)

Pretty Woman's on. I'm never not gonna watch that.

Peter (48:06)

Right, sure, sure. It's guilty.

Alan (48:08)

Because Guilty pleasure to me.

Peter (48:09)

No, no, you're just, you're just saying it's not a masculine film to watch over and over again.

Alan (48:14)

No, certainly isn't.

Peter (48:15)

But it's. But it's a classic.

Don Hahn (48:16)

We're saying ocarena of a movie.

Alan (48:19)

Oh, no, I didn't mean that when I say guilty pleasure. It's like one of those where you watch it and you're like, you know, I don't really want people to know. This is one of my favorite.

Peter (48:26)

See, and you guys are looking at this completely. Don is doing Macarena. It's just garbage. Allen is doing. It's a chick flick. It's a different kind of thing. But the fact of the matter is the scene with Richard Gere closing the little checkbook on Julia Roberts fingers is literally. If the world was ending tomorrow. And they ran a news special about what is this thing called film that's existed? They would show that in like a one minute thing. It's an absolutely iconic film.

Alan (48:54)

And you know, that was all completely like.

Peter (48:55)

He improvised.

Alan (48:56)

Richard did that, like. Yeah, improvised, right. She had no idea he was gonna do it. And that was her, her just natural reaction.

Peter (49:02)

I'd have to think about this. I watch a lot of girly movies. Oh, my. One of my all time favorite romantic, just cheesy romantic comedies that comes from my Salma Hayek. Obsession of Yesteryear is the movie Fools Rush in with Matthew Perry and Salma Hayek.

Alan (49:17)

Love that. Absolutely.

Don Hahn (49:20)

So if you're going to go that route as far as like unmasculine. Same time next year. This for me.

Gilberto (49:27)

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Peter (49:29)

What was that again?

Don Hahn (49:31)

Alan Alda. He meets a woman on a business trip, has an affair with her, and they agree to meet the same time every year. And you see.

Alan (49:38)

Oh, yeah.

Don Hahn (49:39)

See, as the years go by, as they get older, because the affair goes on for like 30, 40 years.

Alan (49:44)

That's a sad movie.

Peter (49:45)

Wait, that sounds good. Is it good?

Don Hahn (49:46)

I think it sounds very.

Peter (49:47)

So what's the, what's the guilt part that you're saying, Don?

Don Hahn (49:50)

Well, because it's. It's a chick flick.

Peter (49:52)

It's just a chick flick I want.

Don Hahn (49:53)

To watch and I met Alan Alden. I told him it's one of my favorite movies. He's like, really? A chick is one of your favorite movies?

Peter (49:59)

How was.

Alan (49:59)

How was Ellen Bernstein?

Don Hahn (50:01)

Hell, yes.

Rosenberg (50:03)

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

Peter (50:07)

I don't want to know how the.

Alan (50:08)

Sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good.

Rosenberg (50:09)

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