Hour 1: Jets Trade for Geno

Summary

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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 1: "Jets Trade for Geno"

Date: March 10, 2026
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg (with Bart Scott throughout)

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Episode Overview

On this episode, Don, Hahn & Rosenberg dive into the headline trade bringing Geno Smith back to the New York Jets. The trio (plus Bart Scott) unpack the logic and fan response to the move, debate options at quarterback, and reflect on the state of the Jets and the rationality (or futility) of "bridge" QB moves. Along the way, they entertain callers and each other, offering signature banter, classic New York sports fatigue, and a dose of gallows humor about life as a Jets fan.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Geno Smith’s Return to the Jets

• Trade Details: The Jets swap a sixth-round pick with the Raiders for Geno Smith and a seventh-rounder; Raiders absorb a portion of Geno’s salary.
  "Jets send the Raiders a sixth round pick and in exchange they get Geno Smith in a seventh, and the Raiders absorb some of the money." (Don, 06:36)

• Why Trade Now?:

  • Fear of losing Geno in free agency to other suitors (notably Minnesota and Miami).
    "The Jets obviously did not want him to hit. He was going to get cut tomorrow...They eliminate that from the equation by making this trade." (Rich Cimini, relayed by Don, 11:17)
  • The trade is little cost for certainty at the most needy position.

• Lack of Better Options:

  • Other options (Tua, Cousins, Carson Wentz) were either unattainable, undesirable, or simply not upgrades.
    "Would you be high fiving people if Kirk Cousins was coming? ...Would you be high fiving people if they signed TUA yesterday? ...Absolutely not." (Don & Alan, 09:18–09:24)

• Geno as the “Best of What’s Left”:

  • "Who is the handsomest person in an ugly contest? There weren't a lot of great options." (Don, 06:36)
  • They expect both Smith and another veteran (likely Wentz) to compete for the job, plus a draft pick.

2. Jets' Quarterback Dilemma – And What Geno Actually Brings

• Review of Geno’s Recent Play:

  • Stats in a bad situation last year:
    • 3,000 yards, 19 TDs, 17 INTs, 67.4% completion rate (Raiders, 2025)
    • Pro Bowl-level numbers the year prior with Seattle: over 4,000 yards, 21 TDs, 15 INTs.
    • Comeback Player of the Year in 2022 with 30 TDs, 11 INTs, 4,300+ yards.
  • "He's not a great quarterback...but of the options, yeah, I would rather have Geno Smith than Carson Wentz." (Don, 08:53)

• No True Excitement:

  • "Every single option, I threw up in my mouth. Everyone we discussed... I said I don't like that, don't like that..." (Alan, 10:04)
  • The trade is a “placeholder,” allowing the Jets to begin developing a rookie behind a functional pro.

• Mentoring and Value of Veteran Presence:

  • Geno’s path (starter, backup, starter again) offers a “lot to be learned," even if he isn’t a classic mentor.
  • "There's a lot to be learned from Geno Smith. He brings valuable things to a lot." (Bart, 20:29)

3. Team Building Philosophy: Tanking vs. Competing

• You Can't Tank With 52 Other Men in the Room

  • "You can't do that to the 52 other players in that room. You can't say we're just going to start a garbage quarterback because we want to lose anyway. What do you think Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall...what are you telling these guys?" (Alan, 12:57)

• Organizational Direction:

  • Moves like the Fitzpatrick-era comparison: sign a bridge, field a more competent product, get ready for “the real guy” in a future draft.
  • The team is not bad enough to guarantee a top pick, so they want to improve while still retaining draft flexibility.

4. Jets Fan Fatigue & Cynicism

• Long-Suffering Callers:

  • Callers express classic Jets angst: “...we took 20 steps forward yesterday, and I don't know, I feel like we just took 15 steps.” (Caller David, 16:03)
  • One caller suggests Russell Wilson instead, prompting the crew to shut it down:
    • "Russell Wilson can't play serviceable NFL quarterback." (Bart, 16:43)
    • "Right now, Geno Smith is better than Russell." (Don, 16:48)

• Resignation and Humor:

  • Alan: “This is the ground up. This is just a space holder until you can find the guy. It's Alfred Peyton. Like, you're not going to be excited about it." (17:38)
  • Don: “You're on a date...and the only movies that are playing are Driving Miss Daisy, the Bridges of Madison County...a movie that just shows you static for two and a half hours. It's not exciting, but you're on a date and you gotta pick a movie and that's it.” (18:04)

5. The Developmental Angle: Drafting a QB

• They Expect a Rookie Will Be Added

  • “You're probably—you hope to—but I don't know if you're going to draft a quarterback that is going to be like Dart [rookie impact]. Best-case scenario is you get to let this kid sit the whole year.” (Don, 14:17)

• Naming Names & Process:

  • “If you can't get Ty Simpson...you draft him, totally. And this doesn't change that at all. What Gino does is buy you time.” (Alan, 19:32)
  • Other rookie options: Carson Beck, Garrett Nussmeier, Drew Aller (20:00–20:17).

6. Summing Up the QB Carousel – The “Jets List”

• Bart Scott rattles off the dizzying Jets QB carousel of the last decade:
  “Geno Smith. Matt Sims. Michael Vick. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Bryce Petty. Josh McCown. Sam Darnold. Trevor Simeon… Joe Flacco. Zach Wilson. Mike White… Aaron Rodgers… Tyrod Taylor… Brady Cook. Geno Smith. That's Geno to Gino starting on ABC this fall. Yeah, Geno to Gino”—Bart (37:22)

7. The Mood in Jets Nation

• No one is thrilled—but there’s logic.

  • Most callers want something different, but with options so limited, the move is hard to truly criticize.
  • “You gotta understand, Vinnie is just a broken fan who's gonna hate anything the jets do because...there's nobody left there. That's why they're in the situation that they're in...he would have hated anybody." (Don, 47:14)

• Coaching as the Next Domino:

  • “Every fan is worried: is this the coach's last shot? Another three-win season and everyone’s out.” (33:32 and again, 49:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Don: “Who is the handsomest person in an ugly contest? There weren't a lot of great options.” (06:36)
• Alan: “Every single option, I threw up in my mouth.” (10:04)
• Bart Scott (about Russell Wilson): “That is a cooked player.” (16:46)
• Don: “This is just a space holder until you can find the guy. It's Alfred Peyton.” (17:38)
• Caller Ira (Staten Island): “If by some chance you could squeeze a season and a half out of Geno and whoever they draft next year doesn't get thrown to the fire...this was a no brainer.” (30:07)
• Bart Scott (to a downtrodden fan): “You deserve to have a conversation that’s about how can we put a winning product on the field, not how can we get through another year with someone who can have a completion percentage of over 45. You deserve better, Ira. I'm sorry. And God bless you.” (31:04)
• Don (on the Jets’ perpetual purgatory): “It's chasing your tail and the dog's about to pass out.” (34:39)
• Alan (on future options): “Hope’s a dangerous thing.” (37:17)

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Timestamps: Important Segments

• Opening Banter & 1-Year Studio Anniversary: 00:30–04:00
• Jets Trade Geno Smith – Breaking Down the News: 06:36–14:00
• Caller Segment #1: Reactions (David, Angry Fan): 15:27–16:51
• Fan/Host Debate: Russell Wilson, Jameis, etc.: 16:36–17:19
• The State of the Jets QB Room/Carousel: 20:29–22:44
• Jets “Tanking” vs. Staying Competitive: 12:57–14:07, 32:41–33:35
• Draft Strategy & Veteran QB Plan: 14:07–15:10, 19:32–20:00
• Caller Ira & Jets Futility: 30:05–31:43
• Fitzpatrick Era Comparison/Jets QB History: 32:41–37:29
• Recent and Coming Moves; Jets’ Plan at Large: 35:28–36:44
• Fan Frustration/Final Caller: 44:42–49:49

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Tone and Style

• Authentically New York: Wry, self-deprecating humor, world-weary football wisdom, and blunt assessments.
• Banter & Chemistry: Hosts enjoy poking fun at each other; playful even when dissecting pain points (“space holder,” “cooked player,” “handsomest in an ugly contest”).
• Fan Perspective: Empathy for long-suffering Jets fans, with a realistic (if not entirely optimistic) look forward.

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Conclusion

This episode provides a pragmatic, at times cynical, but always entertaining look at the Jets’ latest attempt to solve their quarterback conundrum. Geno Smith’s return isn’t anyone’s dream, but the hosts agree it’s the sensible—if uninspiring—move, given the market and franchise timeline. As always, Don, Hahn & Rosenberg keep the pulse of New York’s sports soul—bracing for another season, betting on fleeting hope, and never losing their sense of humor.

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Transcript

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[Don La Greca]

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[Bart Scott]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Bart Scott]

Alan just expressed theoretical arousal about the Dolly Parton puppet.

[Don La Greca]

This isn't North Dakota. This is New York.

[Alan Hahn]

This is Don Hahn and Rosenberg.

[Don La Greca]

The best threesome I've ever heard on

[Alan Hahn]

ESPN New York and streaming live on

[Don La Greca]

YouTube 301 in the big city. Don Hahn and Rosenberg. Till 6:30. Then it's Rangers hockey Rangers in the flames. Another gorgeous day in nyc. How's everybody doing?

[Bart Scott]

Microphone on.

[Don La Greca]

Hello.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, how do we know it was nice out? Not like we went on the roof or anything.

[Don La Greca]

Again, why? Allen is a really intelligent guy and an outstanding and talented host. That's nice, but sometimes things don't stick. There are no cushions in the seats on the roof. I'm not gonna go to the roof and just. And squat.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

If I can't sit and luxuriate and sit down and hang with my buddies and talk about the show, I'm gonna have to stand around like it's some cocktail hour. Or sit on a. On a bench with no cushion on. I'm gonna. I'll just like a gentleman, go to the fifth floor and do what we did for the last three months.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. Look out the window and just see other people enjoying that.

[Don La Greca]

Why?

[Alan Hahn]

It's weird.

[Bart Scott]

Why did I weird? He should have shown us something. He just went up on his own.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, I thought he does.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what I did yesterday.

[Bart Scott]

And Don, Don, Don may or may not have gone.

[Alan Hahn]

There's a picnic table. There's this bench. You don't have to have the cushions. I. I think you don't have to be that bougie. It's not that warm.

[Bart Scott]

Where. Well, where's the. Is. Where's the sun right now? Because I.

[Alan Hahn]

It's in the sky.

[Bart Scott]

Because I just walked with Maya on Broadway. Literally just like five or six blocks and back. And the beating down on my bald head was strong.

[Alan Hahn]

Felt it.

[Bart Scott]

Oh, it was. It was annoying.

[Alan Hahn]

I think we're at, like. We're probably at a. What do you think? UV 7.

[Don La Greca]

I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

What? The UV is 6, 7.

[Bart Scott]

It was enough that sitting outside, if you don't have a nice little shade situation.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, I feel good. But still another beautiful day. I'll take it in the neighborhood and, you know, just. You don't mind driving in, rolled the window down, cranking the tire.

[Bart Scott]

Oh, yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Now, unfortunately, it's only March 10th, the one year anniversary. By the way, Peter, I don't know if you're aware of this. Of what? Or, Alan, if you're aware, one year ago today was our first day in these studios.

[Alan Hahn]

What?

[Don La Greca]

Remember when we. We.

[Bart Scott]

That's one year today.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, I love what we come with

[Don La Greca]

the ribbon and everything. Remember?

[Alan Hahn]

I love what we've done.

[Don La Greca]

We got a jersey up.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

And we got a new coffee machine. But you know what? It's a year. Boy, it goes fast, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Mmm.

[Bart Scott]

One year since we've been in this. But, you know, I can't decide if I think that's been fast or not.

[Don La Greca]

Mmm. I think it's been fast.

[Bart Scott]

Like, I feel like we've been here for a while. I kind of. I'm kind of the opposite side. Opposite side at this point.

[Don La Greca]

Okay.

[Bart Scott]

What do you think, Alan? You think it feels like, oh, my God, I can't believe it's been a year? Or only a year?

[Alan Hahn]

No, you think it's about right or about right? Yeah, I don't think it's fast and I don't think it's only. I think we're just. Yeah, it's about right.

[Don La Greca]

It's a year.

[Bart Scott]

It's a year.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean. Yeah, it's. It's about right.

[Don La Greca]

So Maya was born when we made the move then.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah, Maya, I guess, was. What day is today?

[Don La Greca]

The 10th.

[Bart Scott]

She's almost two months old when we made the move. Now she's. Today she's walking around, putting the ball through the hoop on her own.

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[Bart Scott]

Starting to jam it a little bit.

[Alan Hahn]

Can. Can she play for the Knicks? Because they're struggling with that lately.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah. Noel. Well, can they lower the foot to two feet?

[Alan Hahn]

We can work on that. What now? She probably. The foot. The foot to two feet.

[Bart Scott]

We can lower the foot to two feet. All right, we'll be doing that later.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you. Yep.

[Bart Scott]

Lower the. The hoop.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah, that was Richard yesterday. Alan, you missed out.

[Don La Greca]

Yesterday was a good show.

[Bart Scott]

We did a lot.

[Don La Greca]

That was a lot of fun.

[Bart Scott]

Wow. Here we go. You know where this is going, Don?

[Don La Greca]

I don't know. I don't know how to handle it. But it's weird. It's like I gotta get take my shoes off. If I'm fuck out, I might step on.

[Bart Scott]

No, Alan, you missed this.

[Alan Hahn]

That was too easy.

[Bart Scott]

Alan, you missed this. No, it was fake.

[Alan Hahn]

It was fake, okay?

[Bart Scott]

It was homage. It was homage.

[Alan Hahn]

I thought you got caught too.

[Don La Greca]

No, no, I mean the classic Roseberg with you. Listen to the song now.

[Alan Hahn]

You know Optimus getting a play out of this commercial.

[Don La Greca]

Honestly, our fight Friday was you believing I disrespected hip hop. Yeah, I way more disrespected hip hop.

[Alan Hahn]

You know what?

[Don La Greca]

You should have called me a moron last week.

[Bart Scott]

That's point guy.

[Alan Hahn]

You know what?

[Bart Scott]

He thought this was like a real. Like maybe the kids are listening to

[Don La Greca]

this.25amonth don on a Roseburg with you. That's way more. Oh, my God.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow.

[Don La Greca]

You know what?

[Alan Hahn]

When did that single come out, by the way?

[Bart Scott]

Like 25amonth.

[Don La Greca]

If we were fighting over that and you called me a moron, I'd be like, you know what? I agree.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

You know, how could you?

[Don La Greca]

So that Way more disrespected hip hop. It shouldn't be a big deal, but it is. But Geno Smith is back. Who said you can't come home again? Geno Smith, drafted by the jets oh so long ago, is now coming back to the Jets. Jets send the Raiders a sixth round pick and in exchange they get Geno Smith in a seventh round pick. They also get the Raiders to absorb some of the money, I believe. And see, I'm looking to get Adam Schefter here to get all the details on that. And people are like, I'm outraged. I already get to see phone calls. I hate it. Or maybe you love it. The fact is this is, you know, who is the handsomest person in an ugly contest? There weren't a lot of great options. And when you see. Maybe you kick the can on the tua. No, you can't. He went to Atlanta. Oh, maybe you do this, maybe you do that. All the other options were gone. All that was left, I guess, is cousins, who's now made it clear again. Apparently he doesn't want to go play for the Jets. So it's Geno Smith. It's Carson Wentz. I can't imagine. Alan, you're the resident Jet fan. You're going to get excited about anybody at this state that you were going to be able to bring in, right? No, there was not, Gino.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. Well, again, there was no. There was no obvious answer. Right. There was nothing out there that you could get. And anybody that was at least Capable of giving you quality quarterbacking and that. Well, who would that be? Kyler Murray. You know what I mean? Like that. That wasn't appealing anyway. Why do you think they made the trade for Gino when they could have just waited for him to be cut? Why do you think they traded and all they did was. Here, you take a six, I'll take your seven, right? He. It's a wash. Why'd they do it?

[Don La Greca]

I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

Because they probably would have had a hard time signing Geno, too.

[Don La Greca]

That's why me?

[Alan Hahn]

Because he would have had options. Other teams.

[Don La Greca]

I don't.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm telling you that the fear is the Jets. You. I didn't want competition. I didn't want to have to worry that I don't have a quarterback. When the music stops, I don't have anywhere to sit. So I'll. I'll do the seventh and sixth pick swap, and I'll guarantee I get him. That's why this is a trade instead of waiting to sign him.

[Don La Greca]

I understand. He's not great. He's 30. What is he, 36 years old?

[Alan Hahn]

He's going to be 36 years old during the season.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, during the season. October 10th, he will be 36 years old. All right.

[Alan Hahn]

Jets didn't have anyone but to play quarterback.

[Don La Greca]

And I know you were of the opinion that. All right, good. Then I will lose games and we'll get our quarterback in the draft. Yeah, I. I don't think Geno Smith is very good, but I don't think he's as bad as people think. I mean, all right, last year he was on a team that was the worst team in the NFL and they had no offensive. All right, he threw for 3,000 yards, 19 touchdowns. He did lead interceptions with 17. Okay, but he still threw more touchdowns than interceptions, still threw for 3,000 yards, and by the way, had a 67.4% completion percentage. Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Which is his career. He's a. See, that's why he's better than Fields, because his completion percentage is always in the 60s.

[Don La Greca]

So you go to Seattle, all right, which was a good team. He completed 70.4% of his passes through for 4,300 yards. Again, interceptions a problem. 15 interceptions, 21 touchdowns.

[Alan Hahn]

It's always been his problem.

[Don La Greca]

But he's gone to a Pro Bowl a couple of times. He's not a great quarterback, and he's certainly not getting better. But of the options, yeah, I would rather have Geno Smith than Carson Wentz. You might have both, and you may have both. Right. And Gino would win the job. But I really don't know. When we had the list of guys, yeah, Geno Smith was probably near the bottom of the list. But was there really a big difference between any of them? Would you be high fiving people if Kirk Cousins was coming?

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Don La Greca]

Would you be high fiving people if they. They signed TUA yesterday?

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Don La Greca]

Instead of Atlanta?

[Alan Hahn]

Absolutely not.

[Bart Scott]

Well, it depends. What did he sign for? Is it like minimum?

[Don La Greca]

Well, tua, yeah, it was. It was just a one year. It can't be for a lot.

[Bart Scott]

But they ate the money. Miami ate 90 million dol.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bart Scott]

So it's basically for nothing.

[Alan Hahn]

The only way you could.

[Bart Scott]

So it's vet minimum. No, I wouldn't. Let me just say.

[Alan Hahn]

And the Raiders are going to eat the money too. So you're getting Geno for nothing.

[Bart Scott]

I think to. I would have been just as okay with tua, essentially. What are you trying to do? You're trying to find a serviceable quarterback.

[Alan Hahn]

He's just trying to get through a year where at least you have serviceable quarterback play. But you're not looking to lock in for down the road. You're not looking for anything long term. Which is why this, again, none of the options. Don is right. Every single option. I threw up in my mouth. Everyone we discussed it, we were kicking around names and every single one I said, I don't like that, don't like that, don't like that. Right. So. But you have to have somebody. And you know that Justin Fields is not the guy. He's not the guy. He proved it last year. He's not the guy. So you had to move on, but you had to find somebody that could play capable quarterback because you owe that to everybody else that's on the damn team. So that's part of the deal here. You were never going to get anybody that was going to excite you for next season. But you have somebody that within a year. Now, last year he was bad, but so were the Raiders. Their offensive line was terrible. And as you know, with that drop we have of him, if he sees a blitz, he is. He's dumping out of it as fast as he can. He is not going to try to fight through it. He is just going to throw it away. So that's what you're getting and that's fine. Because the jets are going to continue to search for their quarterback, their future quarterback, rather than be desperate and throw bad money at somebody that they might have been able to convince to come. Only because you're Willing to overpay.

[Bart Scott]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

You didn't do that.

[Bart Scott]

It's the better move.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, for sure. You told us why they traded for Gino instead of waiting for him to be released. Here is what Rich so mean he said on TMK's.

[Caller]

The jets obviously did not want him to hit. He was going to get cut tomorrow at 4 o'.

[Alan Hahn]

Clock.

[Caller]

And I thought he was their best option and they didn't want to take a chance on him going somewhere else because I think Minnesota was also interested in Gino and so they eliminate that from the equation by making this trade.

[Don La Greca]

Now, this was the same conversation yesterday, if you remember, before Miami made their move, that he was going to go to Miami to back up over there. Like there were teams that were kicking the tires on him. And the jets really didn't give up anything just for the insurance of knowing that they wanted to make sure that they had at least him. And I do believe that Carson Wentz is going to come here too, because you're going to want to have, you know, two options, kind of what the Giants did last year with Wilson and Winston. And then you hope that maybe you draft a quarterback and you bring in you'll be drafting a quarterback, you know, either late in the first round or with one of your picks that maybe can, you know, fill out that quarterback room and then you go up. I just don't know. I can't see you being happy today and I can't really see you being upset.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Don La Greca]

Unless for some reason you believe that Kirk Cousins was better.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, come on.

[Don La Greca]

Or you want to bring back Tyrod Taylor.

[Alan Hahn]

You didn't watch Kirk Cousins if you think Kirk Cousins would have been a better option.

[Don La Greca]

Or you want the Brady Cook to be your quarterback because you want to tank. But after making the Mika Fitzpatrick deal and signing Davis and bringing Breece hall back on the franchise tag, I don't think you're really going to be in a position to be the worst team in the league. And. And you got to start winning some games. So obviously the philosophy is to try to win and you're bringing your best option to win. And tell me that Geno Smith isn't the best of the litter.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. I mean, what. What were we talking about also with the jets, as much as fans are all about the whole tank thing. Right. And I understand it because the quarterback draft's coming up, so you do have to keep an eye on that. But you can't do that to the 52 other players in that room. You can't. You can't say we're just going to start a garbage quarterback because we want to lose anyway. What do you think Garrett will. What are you telling Garrett, Wilson, Breece hall, what are you telling these guys? Like where you're. You're going to burn another year of your life.

[Don La Greca]

No, you can't.

[Alan Hahn]

You just can't do it.

[Don La Greca]

You can't do it and you give

[Alan Hahn]

me somebody serviceable and then you'll just see how the year goes. If, if Gino's not good, you move on to the next one. And at some point, like you said, I agree with you. I think they're going to take a quarterback in this draft at some point and then you'll have kind of the same thing that the Giants had, which I think I said this last week. You have Geno probably Carson Wentz knows the system, knows the, knows the offensive coordinator really well. He gets in the room and then you get your rookie quarterback. That you'll see can we develop over time and if it really goes to hell come Thanksgiving or even December, we can throw him out there and just see how that works. But the next thing you do is go back in the draft and try to find your quarterback again.

[Don La Greca]

Now, I don't think it'll go the way that went with the Giants where they'll completely bypass one of the quarterbacks and then have Dart the way he did. They just didn't even bother with Winston until they had to.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

You're probably you hope to, but I don't know if you're going to draft a quarterback that is going to be like Dart. That's the best case scenario where you're itching to get him in early. This keeps that if I, if I have two quarterbacks, I'm letting this kid sit the whole year. I'm pulling the Patrick Mahomes. He's not, he's not seeing a game until late in the year. If then. And that gives you the insurance in case one of them gets hurt. The problem was the Giants were you had a coach that was desperate to save his job rush dart in and it ended up working out. A dart ended up showing you something and that's way it worked out. Now maybe you might have the same thing. Maybe you're losing and the decision will be made by the organization because the feeling around Aaron Glenn's going to be I got to save my job. But I still think you wanted. You want to put yourself in a position where I don't have to play this kid, whoever it is.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

Because I Only got the one quarterback, I think. I think they will sign another veteran and it probably will be Wentz. But how do you feel about it? 1-800-919-3776. The phones are blowing up and it starts with David and Elizabeth here on Don Hanna. Rosenberg. What do you got, man?

[Caller]

What's going on, fellas? A big fan of your show. You know, I apologize. I don't call as much. I'm always busy, like working and trying to finish stuff up. But, you know, always listen and laugh.

[Alan Hahn]

Appreciate the hustle.

[Caller]

Yes, sir. Hollywood on I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm angry and I'm gonna tell you why. What Don. Just the point that Don made. He's correct. If you were to sign Cousins, would. I been thrilled, would have been ecstatic if you would assigned whoever the other gentleman was that Don said the other name. I apologize. Right now, I'm kind of. I'm not even my, my. I'm not even in my right mindset. I'm sorry.

[Don La Greca]

Go ahead.

[Caller]

Yeah, I'm just not ecstatic about it because it's like we took 20 steps forward yesterday, and I don't know, I feel like we just took 15 steps.

[Alan Hahn]

What are you gonna do?

[Bart Scott]

Yes.

[Caller]

No, I agree with you guys. No matter what, the quarterback wasn't going to be box office. It wasn't going to be a guy that was going to come here and change the narrative of all that stuff. Don't kill me on this idea. I just want to see what you guys think. I. I believe he still signed with the Giants, but I would have took a chance on Russell Wilson if anything, like, yo, come over here, stink up the joint real quick. And I mean, you only be here for a year and then, you know, we move on from you to get Gino is like.

[Bart Scott]

No, no, no, hold on. Don't you want serviceable play? Like, at least serviceable play? Russell Wilson can't play serviceable NFL quarterback

[Alan Hahn]

can't play at all.

[Don La Greca]

He is. He is.

[Bart Scott]

That. That is a cooked player.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Right now, Geno Smith is better than Russell. Not even.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bart Scott]

Not even close.

[Don La Greca]

Now, I thought he was going to say Jameis Winston. Now that's a different story.

[Alan Hahn]

I would do that. I don't think the Giants want to let.

[Don La Greca]

Giants won't let him go either. But. No, no, no. I understand you're a Jet fan and you want to be mad at everything that they do, but I don't think this is that big of a deal either way. And if you call me Ecstatic. I'd be like, dude, relax. Take a chill pill, man. It's not that it's a thing. It's a hire, all right?

[Alan Hahn]

Just.

[Don La Greca]

It's a train. It's something that happened. Really.

[Alan Hahn]

All right.

[Don La Greca]

He's a guy, you know, and believe me, if there were other big stories, then, you know, we might think about not leading with this. But it's a quarterback and all that. But I'm saying it's not box off. It's not exciting. No, but nothing was.

[Alan Hahn]

Nothing's going to be right now. It's. This is where they are. This is the ground up. This is just a space holder until you can find the guy. It's Alfred Peyton. Like, you're not going to be excited about it.

[Don La Greca]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

It's just who you have right now for now. And you're hoping like it's Sean Mania and you're hoping maybe you could just get a little something out of it. That's what you're hoping for.

[Don La Greca]

You're on a date and you go into the movies and the only movies that are playing are Driving Miss Daisy, the Bridges of Madison County.

[Alan Hahn]

God.

[Don La Greca]

Right.

[Bart Scott]

Sleepy Time Bobos.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. And you know what? And a movie that just shows you static for two and a half hours.

[Alan Hahn]

I'll go with static.

[Don La Greca]

You know, it's not exciting, but you're on a date and you got to pick a movie and that's it. And he's. It's not great, but it's not the end of the world either. And I guess I showed you stats through 21 touchdown passes last year, threw for 3,000 yards. And you.

[Alan Hahn]

You look at his years before that, Doc.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, listen, he. He was an MVP candidate a couple of years ago.

[Alan Hahn]

His previous two years before the awful year in. In Vegas were actually very impressive. And it was his resurgence we had. We were talking about him in the same breath. We were talking about Darnold and, you know, Baker. Like guys who resuscitated their careers after bouncing around as a backup a little bit after failing as a starter. Right. That's what Geno did. And then he went to a bad franchise with a bad offensive line, and the results are obvious. So the jets don't have a bad offensive line. They are a bad franchise. Although they're trying to fix that. So I don't know what to expect

[Don La Greca]

in 20, 22, he threw 30 touchdown passes, 11 interceptions. He was the comeback player of the year and he finished ninth in the mvp.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

And what do you think the jets did at quarterback over the last Couple of years.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, God.

[Don La Greca]

All right.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Come on.

[Alan Hahn]

Not now.

[Don La Greca]

Because how many different quarterbacks have they had?

[Alan Hahn]

So you'll have, like, if you can't get Ty Simpson, let's say he's gone before you have a chance to take him if you wanted to, late in the first round, which I still think, if he. Even though a lot of people don't think anymore, that he might. He might not be sitting there at 16, and you might think that's too high to take him. But if you think that's your plan, you draft him totally.

[Bart Scott]

And this doesn't change that at all.

[Alan Hahn]

And what Gino does is buy you time. Now, Gino, everybody's like, well, he's not a mentor. I heard you say this. He's not a mentor. You're not asking him to be a mentor. Frank Reich's job is to develop the rookie quarterback, and that's what you do. Now, if you feel that's too soon, fine. Then you got Carson Beck and you've got Garrett Nussmeier and you got, you know, Drew Aller. Those are the guys you get in the second or third round, the day two, day two guys. You get one of them, you throw them in the room, and that's what you see. How this goes from here, that, to me feels like the formula of what the jets are going to follow.

[Bart Scott]

I'll also say this, I hear what Don saying, but, you know, at this point, 98 career starts, right? Not. Not nothing. Not only that, he's experienced, was a team, was a quarterback, lost it, went around the league, found it again. There's a lot to be learned from Geno Smith. He brings valuable things to a lot.

[Don La Greca]

That's what I felt about dart, right? Like dart was able to watch a. Russell Wilson, who won a Super bowl, who was a third round pick, you know, make it in the NFL, and he was able to watch Jameis Winston, who was a first overall pick and failed, and just watch them and learn something. Not necessarily have a tutorial from them, but just watch them play football, watch how they go about working. Now, the three quarterbacks last year for the Jets, Justin Fields, Tyrod Taylor and Brady Cook, combined to throw for 2,378 yards, 14 touchdowns, 13 interceptions.

[Alan Hahn]

Ew.

[Don La Greca]

All right, so you've improved, but you're going to get somebody that now is going to throw for from just last year, which was on the worst team in football, seven more touchdown passes, 1,000 more yards in the air. And by the way, he only played 15 of the 17 games and that's the Raiders. So he's going to be way better than what you had. He's going to be way better than you had when you had Zach Wilson here.

[Bart Scott]

And and, and we're not that far removed from 2022 where he threw for over 4,000 yards, 30 touchdowns.

[Don La Greca]

That's what we were saying. Even the year after before that wasn't bad.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what I'm looking at. The three the previous three years before the Raiders, he was average. He averaged eight wins a season.

[Bart Scott]

Again, like this is at least NFL

[Alan Hahn]

quarterback play and average 4,000 yards. So eight wins, 4,000 yards. So it's not like oh well, they ran the ball a ton. He threw 4,000 yards.

[Bart Scott]

So now and I would probably say that on the flip side to even put Geno up on a higher pedestal because I think he deserves it. Number one, as much as people like enjoy Jameis and I think they like find him funny sort of haha funny. Russell we know isn't a locker room guy.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Bart Scott]

Neither of those guys are a close to having seasons of good football in recent memory. The rear view grown back now. What Pittsburgh? Denver? How long has it been since Russell Wilson's been good? And then both in both cases, yeah. Neither are true guys that the locker room seem to like. I think Geno's a guy teammates like and playful. Oh yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Only one didn't like Ike.

[Don La Greca]

Ik.

[Bart Scott]

Where's Ike?

[Don La Greca]

That was a dozen years ago.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it was a day he grew up. But I'm not trying to make it out like this is a great signing or he's going to be great. No, it's what I'm saying is this is probably the best the jets could have done and even they knew we probably should trade for him because we might not be able to get him. And that's what Samini said. That's why.

[Don La Greca]

Right back though.

[Alan Hahn]

That's why you're in this situation.

[Don La Greca]

Right back. Let's go.

[Alan Hahn]

But now we know who the quarterback's going to be.

[Don La Greca]

1-800-919-3776 get your thoughts on this. We've also got a talk about a Tuesday.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, we got something to talk about.

[Don La Greca]

We've got an ENN and then we've got the Rangers and the I'm fired

[Bart Scott]

out of a cannon for talking about it Tuesday. I can't wait.

[Don La Greca]

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[Don La Greca]

thanks for listening

[Alan Hahn]

to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Bart Scott]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Don La Greca]

Game time is brought to you by Telemardu Irish Whiskey. Because when it's game time, guys, it's Dolly time. The Rangers are back home facing the Flames with coverage immediately following us on 880 at 6:30. Islanders visit the Blues at 7:30. That's cool. Get a game on the way back, right? You got the three game western swing on the way back. You stop and see St. Louis, right?

[Alan Hahn]

I guess. I mean that's what the Knicks are doing after Utah. They stop in Indiana before they come home. I just rather come home.

[Don La Greca]

And then the Nets play host to the Pistons at 7:30. Trying to sweep the home and home. How about they're down 16, they beat the Pistons. I know. Cunningham didn't play.

[Alan Hahn]

Yep.

[Don La Greca]

Stop it.

[Alan Hahn]

They were. They were losing by 20.

[Don La Greca]

So a team that's not trying to win beat the best team in the NBA at home.

[Alan Hahn]

Detroit's lost four in a row.

[Don La Greca]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

They're hitting a wall right now.

[Don La Greca]

Are they? Are they just. You Know what? Just get me held into the playoffs already.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, they're hitting a wall. And then maybe they got Boston all of a sudden right up. Excuse me, I don't think that's what

[Bart Scott]

you say right near.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, for your ace. Right. For this.

[Don La Greca]

You don't want to ever say going forward.

[Bart Scott]

You don't want to go any direction.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, don't say can't go a direction. Drive.

[Alan Hahn]

I didn't say no. Enjoy that YouTube audience. You're the only ones that heard it.

[Don La Greca]

Wait a minute.

[Bart Scott]

Well, because of.

[Don La Greca]

Right. We were. We were doing.

[Alan Hahn]

First of all, I've heard Bart say worse.

[Bart Scott]

Don't go by Bart or that's not the state.

[Don La Greca]

That's filth radio.

[Alan Hahn]

That's filth Bart or Rick say something and RJ gets called and going, why did you let him say that's.

[Don La Greca]

That's. Yes, but if Rick and Bart did a show together, it would be ESPN After Dark. They'd have to air it at like

[Bart Scott]

3 in the morning.

[Don La Greca]

Like what?

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, like on your. Like, but you know. No, right behind you.

[Don La Greca]

No, no, it's. How do you say this tactfully? Your rounds good? Just can't go in.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, but you. I didn't say in.

[Don La Greca]

You suggest.

[Alan Hahn]

If I said in. That's a different story altogether.

[Don La Greca]

Up. Can't go up. Can't go up.

[Bart Scott]

Up is in. Up is in is up.

[Alan Hahn]

What do you say when you're driving and there's a car like right behind you on your bumper? What do you say?

[Bart Scott]

This guy off my Ace.

[Don La Greca]

Like, oh, yeah, you're on. Get off my bump.

[Bart Scott]

No, he's being.

[Alan Hahn]

He's.

[Don La Greca]

I know what he's saying.

[Alan Hahn]

But I'm wrong.

[Don La Greca]

Listen.

[Bart Scott]

But I'm wrong.

[Don La Greca]

Well, according to the person that hits the dump button, you're wrong.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay, fair enough. I apologize.

[Don La Greca]

Take it up with management.

[Bart Scott]

Not up.

[Alan Hahn]

Gotcha.

[Bart Scott]

Take it by management.

[Don La Greca]

Take it from the YouTube audience, which is the. Technically, I guess. ESPN After Dark gets the unfettered filter.

[Alan Hahn]

It's not that exciting.

[Don La Greca]

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[Caller]

Well, good afternoon, gentlemen.

[Don La Greca]

You know what?

[Caller]

Considering everything that was the option and everything that was on the table, I think this was a smart move. Like so many reported they didn't want to take a chance of him hitting free agency. Listen, I'm not saying he's going to come in here and light it up, but you can't discount three years in Seattle. His split was 71 touchdowns and 35 picks. And you don't get that from Jeff. Quarterbacks usually. So to me, the way I'm looking at it, I think Muji, he's looking at this thing. Listen, negative three after quarterback this year, unless they get like a Brock Purdy, you'll get really, really lucky. The quarterback's not coming to next year. So if by some chance you could squeeze a season and a half out of Geno and whoever they draft next year doesn't get thrown to the fire and he doesn't have to play to Thanksgiving, then to me, this was a no brainer.

[Alan Hahn]

Yep.

[Bart Scott]

I want to talk to you for a second, Ira.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh boy.

[Bart Scott]

I'm sorry that we're having another year in March talking about how next year will be with Geno Smith. You've been a fan for a long time and you deserve to have a conversation that's about how can we put a winning product on the field. Not how can we get through another year with someone who can have a completion percentage of over 45. You deserve better, Ira. I'm sorry. And God bless you.

[Caller]

I gotta. Peter, that was great. But this is what it's come to. You know, what we've been through. And listen, let's just hope they get the right quarterback next year and they get the right head coach next year.

[Don La Greca]

Well, that's what you got to hope for. And everything is about the future with this team. But I do think it's important to win some games. And maybe the hope could be that Geno Smith could be what Ryan Fitzpatrick was in 2015. You were coming off a four win season. You let Rex Ryan go. You bring in Todd Bowles, you said, you know what? Geno Smith's not the guy. Let's bring in Ryan Fitzpatrick. Now Fitzpatrick was 33, if he was a 10. About Geno Smith, who comes in at 35. But Fitzpatrick, you know, sets all kind of jets records. Throw 31 touchdown passes, you win 10 games. That would be a bit of a stretch. I don't think anybody was expecting Ryan Fitzpatrick to do anything. Could Geno Smith come in here and throw 25 touchdown passes, 10 interceptions, win you a few games?

[Alan Hahn]

He could be a disaster. It's the last thing you want.

[Don La Greca]

I know you. I know.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah, that's what you. But that's not.

[Alan Hahn]

But I know what you're saying.

[Don La Greca]

That's not what the jets want.

[Alan Hahn]

I know I'm being fatigued.

[Don La Greca]

No, but I hear you. You're talking to. You're talking the language of a lot of Jet fans right now.

[Bart Scott]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

But clearly Muji and Big Mooch and the jets organization want to win as many games as possible because they don't want the stink of losing and they also don't want their owner to go, oh, another three win season. Okay, you're both are out.

[Alan Hahn]

Right? It's got to start looking like something.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, it's got to start looking like something. And the deals that they made yesterday for, you know, good players that can help you win, I mean, you could very easily strip it down, go, I'm not doing anything. I got all this money under the cap. We could spend it next year. We'll make a couple of ancillary moves just to be able to field a team. But we're not trying to win. But you go out and get a really good safety, you go out and you bring Breece hall back on the franchise tag. You've got a world class wide receiver. I'm not saying you've got a playoff team, but you got a team that won what, three games last year, could win a few more. Right?

[Alan Hahn]

So there'll be a lot of fans that will say, but not too many

[Don La Greca]

more, not too many more. But you know what? You're not going to be the worst team in the league. And you still have the draft capital if you want to trade up. What you need to root for if

[Alan Hahn]

you're a Jet fan is that you have a coach.

[Don La Greca]

Well, that, I'm just saying outside of the jets themselves is whoever ends up with the first overall pick is a team that doesn't need a quarterback. You root for Tennessee to be the worst team the league. Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, how many teams you're left for

[Don La Greca]

the Raiders to be the worst team in the league?

[Alan Hahn]

Like, think about it like you really, you are reaching a point of saturation.

[Don La Greca]

Listen, Tennessee decided to bring in a former Jet head coach and a former Giant head coach and go out and get former jets and Giants in an era where neither team can get out of their own way. Good luck, Tennessee. All right. But they've got a quarterback. The Raiders are going to draft their quarterback this year. So I'm not saying it's going to happen. But you root for Tennessee and Vegas to both vie for the first overall pick so they could maybe trade, you know, the first overall pick if you're not in that position next year.

[Alan Hahn]

This is some full circle. The jets have come, though. It really is amazing.

[Don La Greca]

It's chasing your tail and the dog's about to pass. Let's go to Matt in Brewster. You're on espn.

[Alan Hahn]

Very Dog's about to pass out.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Well, hey, guys. Yeah, I agree with what you're saying, Don, and I think the story is more what Muji's been doing with setting this team up. Exactly what you guys just got done saying is what I wanted this team to do. Set up for next year. Build pieces around Geno, could easily win six, seven games, whatever. Or if he's so awful, we get the first pick, we get our guy next year. And we just need. I really want them to draft a wide receiver, either 16, whatever, get the best defensive player or two, or maybe trade back a little. And we worry about the quarterback next year when it's a much better class. I think this is a great setup for. For what they could be in the next three years.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, it was an assistant quarterback, and setup is the best phrase to use here because I think that's what they're trying to do is they're just trying to set themselves up. But the concern that everybody always has is that are you. Then are you building yourself out of getting the most important piece, which everyone always believes is in the draft. Right, Right. Like that. Everyone believes the only way to solve your quarterback problems are in the draft. Remember where Glenn comes from? Detroit? They didn't solve their quarterback thing in the draft. No, they had one. He was a superstar, but he wanted out. They moved him, but they moved him for a former number one pick who had gotten to a Super bowl, whose time had run out in la and they kind of rejuvenated him. We have seen Seattle. Did they fix the post Russell Wilson era in the draft at quarterback? No, they did not. They went to Geno first and then they got Sam and they won a Super Bowl. So there are other ways you can solve the problem. And that's what I think Darren Muji is trying to put them in position to do is not just make it all or nothing, to have the ability to fix that problem in various ways. And also you got to show your coaching staff can coach.

[Don La Greca]

Well, think about this. You win some games, you're not embarrassing. You prove your coach can coach, and let's just throw it out there. The Burrow situation gets worse in Cincinnati and now maybe he's a little bit more open to being gone at the end of next year as opposed to this past off season. And then he becomes somebody that could become available. Who knows, right? I mean, you never know who's going to end up shaking loose. There could be options for you, but I think you got to just, you know, find a way to try to start winning some games. Here's a.

[Bart Scott]

Here's a tweet I see.

[Alan Hahn]

Hope's a dangerous thing.

[Bart Scott]

Here's a tweet I see moving around. Geno Smith.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Bart Scott]

Matt Sims.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, here we go.

[Bart Scott]

Michael Vick.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Bart Scott]

Ryan Fitzpatrick. Bryce Petty.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, Bryce.

[Bart Scott]

Josh McCown.

[Alan Hahn]

God. Bryce Petty.

[Bart Scott]

Sam Darnold.

[Alan Hahn]

That's a strange pull.

[Bart Scott]

Trevor Simeon. They all are.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no. Bryce Petty's a strange pull.

[Bart Scott]

Luke Falk.

[Alan Hahn]

Excuse me.

[Bart Scott]

Joe Flacco.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what I said.

[Bart Scott]

Zach Wilson. Mike White. Josh Johnson. Chris Straevler. Aaron Rodgers.

[Alan Hahn]

Streveler.

[Bart Scott]

Tim Boyle. Tyrod Taylor. Justin Fields. Brady Cook. Geno Smith. That's Geno to Gino starting on ABC this fall. Yeah, Geno to Gino.

[Don La Greca]

And it'll get canceled at the first commercial break.

[Alan Hahn]

Sans for the hourglass.

[Don La Greca]

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[Bart Scott]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Bart Scott]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Bart Scott]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Alan Hahn]

We got to ask about that.

[Don La Greca]

We have to ask about that.

[Alan Hahn]

That was.

[Bart Scott]

I didn't know he was doing a Tiny Desk concert.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he and Dan Olofsky.

[Bart Scott]

I didn't know they were a group.

[Alan Hahn]

Tiny Desk. It was great.

[Don La Greca]

They were at the Tiny desk together. Very similar feeling. You'll know this Peter, as Maya gets older.

[Bart Scott]

Go ahead.

[Don La Greca]

When you have like parent teacher night or you have a meeting, you have to sit at the.

[Bart Scott]

I've done it. Remember I worked in after school care, so I sat at many a children's desk as an adult. It's a insane feeling.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, it was. And we'll see if it was the same for Peter. So we'll talk about it.

[Bart Scott]

And also for anyone out there, I think this is good for everyone to know. For anyone out there who is worried about the state of me and Don's relationship. I want everyone to know that as of today, Don is eating my nuts. And we are fully back to where we were. It's never felt better.

[Don La Greca]

All right.

[Bart Scott]

You know what I mean?

[Alan Hahn]

Okay. I got dumped and.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah, but he, Don, during the pre show meeting, right. Just lunged right in and ate my nuts. No hesitation. He knows I'm going to share with him.

[Don La Greca]

He.

[Bart Scott]

And guess what? I got stuck his hand right in the bag and knew. And he knew. I was thrilled to see it. I enjoyed every bite.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

You know, excited.

[Alan Hahn]

Nothing, nothing. I'm going to get called to the carpet.

[Bart Scott]

It's called, it's called.

[Alan Hahn]

Shockingly enough, no rules were violated.

[Bart Scott]

That's the thing. It's called knowing the rules and playing it through.

[Alan Hahn]

Violated.

[Bart Scott]

Well, maybe my nuts. But again, that's not amongst friends. That's not a violation. That's what friends do.

[Don La Greca]

Right? You know what?

[Bart Scott]

You're, you're like, he had a. He had a hanker. I'll be honest, the one thing I miss about having an office is the taste of Steve Hart's nuts.

[Don La Greca]

Well, Peter and I did do in that realm and Peter's better at it than I am. It's almost like it's art. It's a stand up that doesn't work. Blue, but talks about blue things, but never really does anything that really couldn't make network television. But you know exactly what he's talking about. Not a nuance. You work Fox, you just go right out.

[Bart Scott]

Baba. No, he's having a nice play.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, I know.

[Bart Scott]

Or is he out of sick? I was in the other room and I was thinking and I went, don, I don't know why I opened the thing. I guess I saw the nuts and I was like, oh, Don ate nuts. And I thought, you know, it'd be funny to talk about that. And then here we are.

[Don La Greca]

God, it's so ridiculous. But the dice poems, that was genes tremendous back in the day. I don't.

[Bart Scott]

I still. I kind of missed it. Cause I didn't get it at the time. And I never went back to relive it. I just knew he was like crass. Because I was a kid.

[Alan Hahn]

Little Miss Muffet sat on a tuffet eating, eating her curds and whey.

[Bart Scott]

Her curds and whey, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Long came Spider, sat down beside us, said, hey, what's in the boat? Only one word was bad. There was an old woman who lived in a ship.

[Don La Greca]

She had so many kids she didn't know what to do. So yeah, there's two versions of that one. I went with the other one.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I was going with the other one. I couldn't say anything else.

[Don La Greca]

Can I do the Jack and Jill one?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I would.

[Don La Greca]

No, Jack and Jill went up the hill. Both with a bucket of corner Jill,

[Bart Scott]

by the way.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, Anthony, wait, wait. There's no bad words there. It's just a bad image. I think we can say it, but

[Bart Scott]

no, it's not worth it. Now we've talked too much.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Bart Scott]

Once you've now expressed too much concern over doing it, the answer is always.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't Google it, kids.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, very funny. Yeah, Google.

[Alan Hahn]

Trust me.

[Don La Greca]

You're on YouTube already. I'm sure you can find some of those videos.

[Alan Hahn]

You ever watch YouTube?

[Don La Greca]

Let's go to Vinnie. He's on in at Staten Island. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Vinny?

[Alan Hahn]

Hi, guys.

[Caller]

What's up, everybody? Jets did it again. Geno Smith coming full circle. Absolutely terrible. What they got to do is draft Carson Beck with one of those second round picks. He's every bit as good as Mendoza. The kick and throw the ball. He reminds me of Dan Marino coming out of college when he slipped because of his attitude, his partying. Carson Beckett, throw the ball.

[Don La Greca]

All right, but what. He's a good.

[Caller]

He's a good. But Geno Smith is just terrible.

[Don La Greca]

Vinny, Vinny. Why does one have to do with the other? I mean, you could still draft back if you want. And you need somebody to start a quarter.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't think.

[Don La Greca]

Well, but you're saying two things here. What is. What is wrong with Geno Smith? What would you have done?

[Caller]

He'll get booed out of New York.

[Bart Scott]

He's not gonna have.

[Caller]

As soon as he has. As soon as he has a couple bad games, he will.

[Alan Hahn]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. But Vinny, Don asked you. Wait, wait, wait. Don asked you a question though. What else could they have done?

[Caller]

Kirk cousin, he would.

[Bart Scott]

I got.

[Alan Hahn]

I got not coming here.

[Bart Scott]

And also I. I'm telling you, dude, I've watched Kirk's entire career from 2012 when he was drafted. He has fallen off a cliff. It's mentally not there. But Gino. Gino is actually survived. But Gino has survived the worst New York situation anyone can have. But he got through it and he's back.

[Alan Hahn]

He'll be okay. Everything you're saying makes sense. But what Vinnie needs to understand and I need you to listen clearly. Kirk Cousins and his wife do not want to be here.

[Don La Greca]

Right?

[Alan Hahn]

They don't Want to be in New York. They don't want to. Want to play for the Cousins.

[Don La Greca]

Cousins was on an option. So you'd rather have Carson Wentz.

[Bart Scott]

No, Carson Beck.

[Alan Hahn]

Absolutely Beck in the draft.

[Bart Scott]

You don't want.

[Alan Hahn]

Hold on.

[Bart Scott]

You didn't say Winston.

[Caller]

I'd rather have Carson Wentz to Geno Smith.

[Bart Scott]

Are you.

[Alan Hahn]

Hold on.

[Bart Scott]

I need you to do me a favor. You have a working computer, right? I need.

[Alan Hahn]

You might get him.

[Bart Scott]

I need you to go look up the last time Carson Wentz was even mediocre. Like even mediocre, man.

[Caller]

He was going Indianapolis and he was fine with Minnesota last year.

[Bart Scott]

Indianapolis is four years ago. And he wasn't great. He was passing.

[Alan Hahn]

I think you might get Wentz anyway, so. Oh, you might get what you want.

[Caller]

He was. He was fine with Minnesota last year. Listen, the whole thing is he played around. Aaron Glenn will be fired by Thanksgiving. Frank Reich will be the new head coach.

[Alan Hahn]

There you go. So it really doesn't even matter.

[Bart Scott]

I see quarterback scout in your future. Carson Beck and Wentz.

[Don La Greca]

No, but you gotta understand. You gotta understand, Vinnie is just a broken fan who's gonna hate anything the jets do because every. No matter what they do, they're gonna screw it up. But. And the reason I know that he was just complaining for the sake of complaining. His first statement made no sense. Signing, trading for Geno Smith has nothing to do with who they're gonna draft now, if they want to get back. Because that's what he said.

[Alan Hahn]

He wants to get back the next day, Marino.

[Don La Greca]

But that doesn't matter who. Whether they sign Cousins or Wentz or Smith is not going to affect who they're going to draft late in the first round or in the second round.

[Alan Hahn]

Right?

[Don La Greca]

So he was just complaining for the sake of complaining. And Carson Wentz, I'll give him, he

[Bart Scott]

was right about one thing. In 2021 in Indianapolis, he started everything the whole season.

[Alan Hahn]

They got hurt.

[Bart Scott]

They went nine and eight. He threw 27 touchdowns to seven interceptions and threw for 3,500 yards. That was a pretty good year. In 2021, that was a pretty good year.

[Don La Greca]

And Geno Smith had a better year the following season in 2022 was the comeback player of the year through 30 touch a year later. And then do you realize that when Carson Wentz signs with a team that's not Minnesota, Kansas City, the Rams, the Commanders or the Colts, that would be six teams in six years. So nobody wants him for any length of time because if he signs wherever he was in Minnesota last year, Kansas City the year before, the Rams the year before that, then Washington, then the Colts and then Philadelphia's last year, 2020. So that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, you count Philadelphia, that's 6. This will be 7 teams since 2020 and you're still going to probably get them anyway. And that'll be your quarterback room, Smith and Wentz.

[Bart Scott]

And I'm telling you right now, on the flip side of that, Gino was getting a job. Gino's getting a job this year now. Maybe ended up top flight backup on a good team or a starter on a bad team. He was getting a job.

[Don La Greca]

Let me ask you. They made this trade because Muji didn't think he'd last in free agency, right? So somebody else competition.

[Bart Scott]

They had to even just for a six round pick.

[Don La Greca]

They had to do something. Listen, I love Vinnie. I understand it. I work every day to a guy to my right who's a broken jets fan. I get it. As broken as you hate it. And then you start talking about taking back, which they could still could do because when he's like, he's like 30, it's ridiculous. The kid in Miami, because he was transferred there, he's 24, 25. That's not a bad point. But you're you. He would have hated anybody they got because there's nobody left there. That's why they're in the situation that they're in. And he already believes that that coach is going to get fired midway through the season anyway, which a lot of,

[Alan Hahn]

a lot of fans do. Which is why if you're Glenn, you kind of got to get it right

[Don La Greca]

this year because you probably want to

[Alan Hahn]

win the same way.

[Don La Greca]

And I think Muji feels the same way. Like as much as I think Muji's done a lot of good things. Can he survive another, you know, 13, 14 lost season?

[Alan Hahn]

He does longer than Glenn.

[Don La Greca]

He does. But. But it chips away Alan.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, sure does.

[Don La Greca]

You know, and I'm sure he doesn't want another, you know, double digit loss season on his resume.

[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Bart Scott]

I don't want to know how the

[Alan Hahn]

sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN ESPN New York app and your smart speakers. Shot clocks, big shots, upsets, aces. TGL playoffs are here.

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

Who will advance keep up its playoffs.

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[Alan Hahn]

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