Hour 1: Knicks Beat Spurs

Summary

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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg — Hour 1: Knicks Beat Spurs (March 2, 2026)

Main Theme

This episode centers around the New York Knicks’ victory over the San Antonio Spurs, diving deep into the team's recent performance, matchup dynamics throughout the season, and what their playoff outlook could be. As always, the hosts—Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, and Don La Greca—bring their trademark blend of sports analysis, irreverent humor, and local flavor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cold Weather & Weekend Check-in (00:31–04:57)

• The hosts share personal stories traveling to Chicago and St. Louis, immediately bonding over classic NHL Norris Division talk and the brutal Midwest cold.
• Quick transition into New York weather woes and comedic banter about weather predictions, with Alexa and AI making appearances.
• Quote, Alan Hahn, on winter's last gasp:
  "Alexa, when are we getting warm weather?... Today will be the last cold day until next winter." (03:10)

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2. Knicks Recent Wins & Matchups: Spurs and Beyond (04:57–12:14)

• Knicks Beat Spurs: Discussion pivots to the team's performance, especially how matchups seem to dictate the Knicks’ outcomes.
  • Alan called Knicks’ win in advance:
    "Book it. Knicks are beating the Spurs." (05:05)
• Consistency vs. Matchup Debate:
  • Are the Knicks maddeningly inconsistent, or do they simply have matchup issues?
  • Alan:
    "Are they maddingly inconsistent or are they just, hey, certain teams, they just don't match up with?" (06:36)
  • Alan's nuanced answer:
    "Can I say yes, meaning both? That's pretty much describing them and a lot of teams in the NBA, Don." (06:43)
• Knicks are 14–4 in their last 18 games, yet the four losses (especially to Detroit) are magnified.
• Matchups highlighted: Spurs can dominate OKC (4–1 season record), and the Knicks have had the Spurs' number.
• Alan:
  "If the Spurs get out of the West, which is not crazy...the Knicks would be the favored team in the NBA Finals if they meet." (08:00)
  • Thick with playoff hope, but laced with classic Knicks fan caution about Detroit.

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3. East Playoff Picture: Detroit as the Knicks’ Kryptonite (09:48–12:43)

• Detroit continues to dominate the Knicks, breeding both frustration and fear heading toward the playoffs.
• Peter:
  "In order to get that favorable matchup with someone like San Antonio... you gotta be probably through them (Detroit)." (09:55)
• The crew analyzes possible paths (Celtics, Cavaliers, Raptors), tiebreaker situations, and what record the Knicks need to attain a top seed.
• Alan:
  "Now you're getting to where you feel pretty good about it..." (11:42)

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4. National TV Knicks & App Frustrations (13:22–16:58)

• Discussion on Knicks’ performances on big-stage, national broadcasts: generally strong, especially on ABC and ESPN.
  • Rosenberg:
    "When the Knicks play on ABC and ESPN, they seem to play well." (17:04)
• Tirade about the challenges of watching games across apps, with a million dollar idea to "last channel" between streaming services.
  • Alan:
    "We'll be billionaires overnight. The technology to be able to last channel from app to app..." (16:02)

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5. Player Deep-Dives: McHale Bridges, "Wemby", and Matchup Analysis (17:53–22:16)

• Spotlight on McHale Bridges’ rollercoaster performances:
  • Impressive defense, big games after lulls, worth the five first-round picks (when on).
  • Alan:
    "That's the guy you're looking for...If you haven't adjusted by now, right. You should be able to adjust." (18:20)
• Victor "Wemby" Wembanyama: awe over his physical gifts, highlight dunks, and the challenge he poses even in defeat.
  • Don Hahn:
    "He just like turned and was there... He teleported to the basket..." (20:57)
  • Peter:
    "If he were to actually have a full on healthy career, I can basically guarantee you He's a top 10 player all time." (21:44)

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6. Callers, Knicks Fandom, and Optimism vs. Anxiety (28:20–35:26)

• Big Rod & Blanderson Hooper: Regular callers offer perspectives on the Knicks, the importance of appreciating this run, and the frustrations with certain players' inconsistency (esp. Bridges).
• Big Rod:
  "I do feel guys...Cat playoff time is going to surprise us. I think he's going to have some big games...it's the other stuff that he does that can help us win games." (30:00)
• Emphasis on enjoying the team’s successes after decades of disappointment.

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7. Knicks Playoff Standards & Rooting Habits (25:22–27:52, 31:20–32:17)

• The Knicks’ recent years of 50+ wins discussed as the new standard, fans now expect—and demand—success.
• Alan:
  "That three straight years and 50 wins is something you haven't seen since the early 90s." (25:43)
• Playoff scenarios considered, with the consensus that the league has more parity than past decades, making this run exciting.

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8. Pop Culture, Method Man, and New York Celeb Fans (38:09–47:07)

• Birthday shoutout to Method Man, banter about celebrity Knicks and Jets fans (Kevin James, Ray Romano, Adam Sandler, Larry David, Tracy Morgan, Jon Favreau).
• Favorite Method Man quote read on air—on authenticity and self-reflection:
  • Don Hahn, quoting Meth:
    "You can fool the whole world down the highway of years and take pats on the back as you pass. But your final reward will be heartache and tears if you cheat the man in the glass." (42:32)
• Humorous debate over which New York celebrity is most worthy as a "fan ambassador."

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Notable Quotes

• Alan Hahn on the Knicks’ Consistency (06:43):

  "Are they maddingly inconsistent or are they just, hey, certain teams, they just don't match up with?...Can I say yes, meaning both? That's pretty much describing them and a lot of teams in the NBA."

• Peter on Detroit as a Playoff Hurdle (09:48):

  "In order to get that favorable matchup with someone like San Antonio... you gotta be probably through them (Detroit)."

• Don Hahn on Wembanyama’s Unreal Dunks (20:57):

  "I got to call a Wemby game...I swear to God he was at the foul line and the best way to describe it teleported to the basket."

• Rosenberg on Celebrity Fans (43:24):

  "Ray Romano and Kevin James, very similar. Not like the best ever film careers, but really good television careers...I respect [Ray] more as an actor than Kevin James."

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Memorable & Light-hearted Moments

• App Frustration and Their ‘Billion Dollar Idea’ (16:02):
  • Dreaming of an app that lets you effortlessly flip between games across streaming platforms, “just like cable”.
• Method Man Birthday Celebration (38:16):
  • The crew good-naturedly ribs their producer for his "white guy" music taste, then waxes poetic about Method Man and Wu-Tang’s influence.
• Call-in Banter (28:20 and 32:58):
  • Nicknames like “Big Rod” and “Blanderson Hooper” create a running joke about sports radio’s unique community.

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Knicks–Spurs Recap & Matchups: 05:05–08:44
• Knicks' Playoff Picture & East Landscape: 10:25–12:14, 25:34–27:52
• McHale Bridges & Player Talk: 17:53–19:31, 33:01–35:26
• Wembanyama Discussion: 19:31–21:44
• Fan Calls & Optimism: 28:20–35:26
• Pop Culture & Celebrity Fans: 38:09–47:07

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Summary

This episode is a celebration of Knicks optimism tinged, as ever, with a dose of anxiety—and a love for all things New York. From gushing about win streaks and playoff potential to dissecting why certain teams (Detroit) haunt the franchise, the hosts dive deep into stats, psychology, and local culture. With banter about streaming app annoyances, celebrity fans, Method Man’s birthday, and the marvel of “Wemby”, this hour captures the pulse of New York sports fandom.

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Transcript

[Don Hahn]

It's a season two playoff race with TGL. Presented by SoFi. Sunday at 9pm Eastern. Jupiter Links versus Boston Common Golf Monday at 7pm Eastern. Los Angeles Golf Club versus New York Golf Club. Tuesday at 9pm Eastern. The Bay Golf Club versus Jupiter Lynx. Keep up. It's Golf Watch on ESPN, ESPN2 and the ESPN app. Don.

[Rosenberg]

I had never seen holes like that before.

[Don Hahn]

I'm not comfortable touching it. I'm not.

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Don Hahn]

And Rosenberg.

[Peter]

I'm not breastfeeding.

[Rosenberg]

No, but I.

[Don Hahn]

That's too bad.

[Rosenberg]

This isn't North Dakota. This is New York.

[Don Hahn]

This is Don, Han and Rosenberg.

[Rosenberg]

The best threesome I've ever heard on

[Peter]

ESPN New York and streaming live on

[Rosenberg]

YouTube 302 of the big city. Don Hahn and Rosenberg with you till 6:30. Then it's Rangers, Hockey Rangers and the Blue Jackets. Hopefully everybody had a great weekend. I know you were in Chicago, Peter.

[Peter]

Chicago.

[Rosenberg]

I was in St. Louis. So Peter and I were in the old Norris division.

[Peter]

We really were.

[Rosenberg]

What were you doing this weekend?

[Don Hahn]

Norris division?

[Rosenberg]

You needed to be where, you know, in Minnesota, Toronto. If you're going to be, you know, kicking old school Norris.

[Peter]

The old Mike Modano.

[Don Hahn]

That's a four.

[Rosenberg]

Well, there was five, remember?

[Don Hahn]

So who else am I missing?

[Rosenberg]

So the Norris was Chicago, Minnesota, Detroit.

[Don Hahn]

Detroit, right.

[Rosenberg]

Toronto. Back in the day when four of the top five teams in the division all made the playoffs.

[Peter]

Oh, the good old days.

[Rosenberg]

16 of the 21 teams. Now it's. Now it's actually hard.

[Peter]

I'll tell you what though. We talked about how that lake cold was gonna hit.

[Don Hahn]

How'd that feel?

[Peter]

It was so. So I had a hit on the countdown show. The countdown shows two hours. The way it's been recently. I do the first hour I'm like a reporter and then the second hour I'm at the desk. My hit, being a reporter, my first hit was outside. I was outside with the crowd and I could even tell the Chicago crowd had kind of not bargained for this level of cold. Like there were some people dressed that. They were like, yeah, because the day before had been 58, 60 or whatever. They were there like kind of one layered up guys.

[Rosenberg]

It.

[Peter]

It was so insane. And then when I went out to start hour two, I did one segment on the desk and they're like, all right guys, we're moving in early. We were going to move in at the end of that hour, right? And instead in the next break they were like, go inside. And then we did the post show inside. Thank God it was now Chicago.

[Don Hahn]

Chicago and still you feel it.

[Peter]

They're still doing it.

[Don Hahn]

Who wants some good news?

[Big Rod]

Oh, yeah.

[Don Hahn]

So I asked my meteorologist, my personal meteorologist this morning.

[Peter]

You have a personal.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, her name's Alexa.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Because you're wonder.

[Peter]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

And I said, because this morning, leaving for get up, it was in the 20s, 21.

[Peter]

Oh, I was cold this morning.

[Don Hahn]

I was outside and I just said, I like, you know, you reach that point where you walk outside, the garage door is open. I walk out to the garage. I feel it. I turn around, come back, bend. Like no way, right? Like, because I didn't want to wear the coat I don't want. You know what I mean? Like. Like I thought, just throw on a vest. I'm good.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, not today.

[Don Hahn]

So not today. Brought up because we had a weekend that. It was a tease, right?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

So I then finally said Alexa. And I might have used the choice word within it. I said, when are we getting warm weather? And her response was, oh, this is deep. Today will be the last cold day until next winter.

[Rosenberg]

That's what we were told. Oh, they said it on that. Danny Backstrom told me that this morning.

[Don Hahn]

Danny Backstrom told me. Okay, well, she told me at. At 45am hold on.

[Peter]

I'm gonna. Now can we try to get confirmation?

[Rosenberg]

So the last freezing. I guess the. Officially the last below freezing.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Of the sea.

[Peter]

Hey, Gemini, is it true that. Oh, I shouldn't use that. What's the ESPN AI? Let me. Let me use the Disney AI.

[Don Hahn]

Well, all I'm going to say is this. Are you breaking the rules? Are you ready for 60 degree weather? Coming just in a couple of days.

[Rosenberg]

That's what's so glorious. When I was in St. Louis Friday, it was 73 walking to the yard. So, like, I can't wait for this. I can't wait for this back home.

[Don Hahn]

It's coming next week, coming weekend. 60 degrees. Book it. Just like Don Legreck has said. Knicks are beating the Spurs.

[Peter]

Book it is. According to an unnamed AI it says it is not the last cold day of the season.

[Rosenberg]

Well, define cold.

[Peter]

Lies.

[Rosenberg]

I think below freezing is probably the better way to put it.

[Peter]

Below freezing is the last day below 32 till next year. Yeah, that's what. Okay. Because tomorrow. High 39. Then high 52.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, there you go.

[Rosenberg]

That's what we like tomorrow still has

[Peter]

a low of 25.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, well, listen, when the sun goes

[Don Hahn]

down, all bets are it doesn't count overnight.

[Peter]

Doesn't count next Wednesday. 5267.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, we're talking about the. Come on, this is what I mean.

[Peter]

Now you're talking about a roof conversation.

[Don Hahn]

You know what? You know what? Even if we had a little precipitation, I still might grab it on the roof.

[Peter]

And you know what I mean? The fact of the matter is, by then, we're talking about. It's like March 9th. Like, yeah, you can have a 60 day. It happens.

[Rosenberg]

Alan mentioned it. I told you they were going to be.

[Don Hahn]

The spurs called it.

[Rosenberg]

Book it. Now, you got a little basketball on me last week. Like, listen, it's a long road trip and all that like that. The spurs can be had. But I was coming from the angle of this is what the Knicks do, and this is why this fan base has got to be so frustrated. And then it frustrates us because coming off a conversation like, what's wrong with this team? They're not a championship team. That's why I said, no, they book it. They're going to beat the Spurs. We knew they were going to beat the Bucks. They beat him up fairly thoroughly, like they should have without Yanis. And they got lucky because Giannis is coming back tonight or whenever they're playing the Celtics, I don't know, tonight or tomorrow.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I think it's tonight.

[Rosenberg]

So they just missed having to deal with Yanis. Probably would have beat him anyway.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And then the spurs, like, oh, my God, the Spurs. Spurs are good. We've seen this team all year rise to the engagement against certain teams, and unfortunately, sometimes not against other teams. And it just confuses you. It baffles you. Exactly how good is this team? Are they inconsistent? Do they play with their food, as Peter likes to say? Or does it really just come down to matchups? Because, listen, three games against the spurs, two and one. And the one game they blew a lead very easily, could have won all three games. So do they just match up well with the spurs and just don't match up well with Detroit?

[Peter]

That's how it feels.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. So. So is that. So let's, let's come to a consensus here.

[Don Hahn]

Okay?

[Rosenberg]

Are they maddingly inconsistent or are they just, hey, certain teams, they just don't match up with.

[Don Hahn]

Can I say yes, meaning both? Answering both is like, that's not an either or. That's a. That's pretty much describing them. And a lot of teams in the NBA, Don. Yeah, like my, my takeaway is simply this, because we already know. We know their shilling, we know their floor. It's a wide gap, but we know it. We've seen it. They are 14 and four in their last 18 games. It's amazing how much we amplify the four instead of the 14, isn't it?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, the four.

[Don Hahn]

And I'm, you know, we're all, you know, guilty of it because the four are the ones that, you know, you, you, you really don't understand. Like how did you play that poorly against Detroit? But I also, I think matchups are a real thing and they match up well with this spurs team, which is a really good team. The Knick defense, however, they just know matchups. They play better against them. And that's why if you're a Knicks fan and you find a way to get past Detroit, boy, if, if the spurs get out of the west, which is not crazy, remember they're, they're 4 and 1 against OKC. So the spurs are the same thing as the Knicks are right in that matchup. The spurs just are a tough matchup for the Thunder. So if that happens, the Knicks would be the favored team in the NBA Finals if they meet. That's a fact because of what we've seen this season. The three, they should be three and oh, they were up 19 in the game. They lost. Julian Champagne went crazy from three point range in that game. You won't see that often. But the Knicks play well against the Spurs. They would go into that series feeling confident. So now you're watching the west to see matchups and we're going to see the Knicks against OKC now over these next couple of weeks, but now, like you're almost rooting for it. If you can get out of the east and the spurs are left standing, you got a good shot at winning an NBA championship.

[Rosenberg]

But, but this is what makes it maddening for me is that, oh, when the Knicks lose to Detroit, it's, well, it's just a regular season. And then the Knicks really aren't showing Detroit anything. Detroit wants it more. But then when the Knicks, like own the spurs, can't the reverse be said? I don't, I don't buy that. I think that it's a matchup issue.

[Don Hahn]

I've watched spurs want to win every one of these 11 games, including one in Toronto. They were down 15 second half. Could have easily just mailed it in. Game in Toronto, you're on a long road trip. That's the game they could have mailed in. Didn't. Battled all the way to the end. So what happened Sunday? Later in the game, but it was really more the 1910 run where once the Knicks started making shots, their defense Was already good from the start of the game. They just defensively match up. Well, it is about matchups, but I know, I get what you're saying, the whole Detroit thing, and we try to downplay it, but I don't. I've told you many times. No, don't take. You can't just dismiss how much Detroit has dominated you.

[Peter]

You can't do it, if nothing else, for the fact that in order to get that favorable matchup with someone like San Antonio, I got bad news, you

[Don Hahn]

know, you got to be probably through them. Yeah.

[Peter]

So it's. I mean, that's why I said, how are you not.

[Don Hahn]

It's a major if, I guess, you

[Peter]

know, what's the Celtics Pistons record this year?

[Don Hahn]

That's a great question.

[Peter]

Is there a world in which the Celtics can take the Pistons out for you and then you get the Celtics or you match up more favorably or

[Don Hahn]

even Cleveland, like, who knows what, but

[Peter]

never know what's gonna happen.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. But by the way, while I'm looking this up for you, Peter, thank you. We are done. We are now six games into the 10 game gauntlet.

[Peter]

Pistons are 3 and 1 against the Celtics.

[Don Hahn]

Six games in, they are 4 and 2. All right, so now that this is again, you got at Toronto tomorrow, which is not easy, but you do play well against Toronto.

[Rosenberg]

The.

[Don Hahn]

The back to back at home against okc. That's maddening that you have to do that on the second of back to back coming, you know, coming in late and then we know, Fridays at Denver and then Sundays at lakers. So at 4 and 2 we were talking 5 and 5, right. 6 and 4 and 4 and 2 with four games to go. What are you looking at?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, what do you want? What do you not five and five.

[Don Hahn]

What do you want now? Right. Well, six and last four, you go two and two. Yeah, there's your six and four.

[Rosenberg]

I think you could take six and four, but you probably, you know, thirsting for more, you know, based on going out there and beating the spurs the way you did now they caught a break. I thought on Friday because I would. I was situated in a place in St. Louis for dinner where I got to watch most, if not all, the second half of Pistons. Cavs.

[Peter]

God bless.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, boy, the Cavs let that slip through their fingers. Right.

[Peter]

Gave it away.

[Don Hahn]

That was a dumb.

[Rosenberg]

Gave it away late.

[Don Hahn]

Yep.

[Rosenberg]

You know, so now you got a game and a half lead on the Cavs for that. Four seats, two in the loss, two in the loss.

[Don Hahn]

And you own the tiebreaker already. So it really? 3.

[Rosenberg]

So now, now you're getting to where you, you feel pretty good about it. And, and, and listen, you still have time.

[Don Hahn]

Two backs to be able to make

[Rosenberg]

up the ground on Boston. You're two back in the lost column of Boston.

[Don Hahn]

Boston plays, I believe. Plays, plays. Right. The Greek tonight, right?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

As I said, yes.

[Rosenberg]

And an anticipation of.

[Don Hahn]

The Bucks have played well. They did not play with the Knicks, you know, on Friday, but, you know, you're now rooting for that, too. You're now rooting for Boston to take a couple of Ls. They have a hard schedule remaining. They just refuse to lose this ball.

[Rosenberg]

And don't, don't discount the Raptors because that's a big game tomorrow. There are only three back in the lost column of you. So if you were to lose that game tomorrow, now that gets reduced to two. So five all of a sudden comes into play. Be very, very interesting. Yeah. But get through the gauntlet, as Alan has dubbed it, and then you've got a pretty easy schedule. You're 11 wins from 50, and you should be. You should be in good shape from there. So. 1-800-919-3776. I've never seen my call screener look like this. Wow. It looks like a quilt.

[Don Hahn]

It does look like a quilt. Or a little argyle.

[Rosenberg]

Yes. I. Peter, have you ever seen this before? Not sure what.

[Peter]

No, that's neat. That's actually neat.

[Don Hahn]

It's kind of cool in a way.

[Rosenberg]

It is.

[Don Hahn]

Wait, let me see what I got.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, tell me what you got there. Because Anthony, who does everything I have nothing, is going to try to help the call screener.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. 800-919-3776. If you want to be the one that breaks through first.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

On this newfangled argyle call screener.

[Peter]

But let's hear the argyle call screeners wild.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Let's hear from Mike Brown. He says he was impressed by the

[Peter]

team's D. Our defense has gotten better. So to start the game, you know, they had got out in transition. I think 11 of their first night, the way we chart the first 19 points, were in transition. And so our guys did a better job of cleaning that area. And then once that happened, you know, and we started taking the right shots, we just tell our guys, hey, let that thing fly. Once we started letting it fly and good things started to happen.

[Rosenberg]

Now, you probably know this off the top of your head, but how have they played on nationally televised games? It feels like.

[Don Hahn]

Well, yes. Yeah. But. Yeah, lately, too, like, I go back to Christmas Day. Now, the Detroit game, not good.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

That was national. That was bad.

[Rosenberg]

But that was Amazon, wasn't it? I don't want to disrespect. Wow, Amazon.

[Peter]

You are, though.

[Don Hahn]

You did, though.

[Rosenberg]

But I'm talking.

[Don Hahn]

You mean real, real national tv. Well, I'm just like, I can, I can turn the channel.

[Rosenberg]

But that was Amazon. But MSG also called the game. But I'm saying when they've been on abc.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

They've done well.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Saturday night, the Rockets game that they came back, won that game. Second half was a terrific game. That was.

[Peter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Don Hahn]

That was espn.

[Rosenberg]

That was. That was. Yeah, that. And what was Prime?

[Don Hahn]

Pistons dicks was prime. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And I'm not, I'm sorry, I'm not going to count that. If MSG's, you know, we're going side by side. You're going side by. You're going side by side with an app.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

In New York.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. In this economy.

[Rosenberg]

Well, it's just when you hear the Yankee fans complain when they're on prime in New York, you got MSG or an app, the app's losing out big.

[Peter]

That is a fact. I mean, I hate to say it, although they do.

[Rosenberg]

I gotta be honest, they do a good job.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, yeah. Because good broadcast.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know. I, I, I swear to God. Listen to the good Lord up above. I still, I'm sticking with DirecTV, even though they punch me in the privates every couple of weeks. All right. The day of that Piston game, for whatever reason, I had to reset the DirecTV, which would mean you got to take down that little door, and then you hit the little red button, and then it tells you in just a few seconds, which ends up being 15 minutes. So I went to the app to watch the end of the Piston game.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

But I, but by the time I figured that out, the game had already ended.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, boy.

[Rosenberg]

So I started watching the second game of the doubleheader. I think it was Celtics and the warriors, maybe.

[Don Hahn]

That sounds about right.

[Peter]

They do a really good job.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. No.

[Rosenberg]

So I'm not knocking the job that prime does.

[Don Hahn]

No, no. The talent is.

[Rosenberg]

I'm just saying that. It's just if I got a choice between MSG and anything but, but especially an app in New York. Forget about it.

[Don Hahn]

I don. As I've said, I think we have to come up with. We will make. We'll be billionaires overnight. The technology to be able to last channel from app to app without having to Sign in, sign out without having to find the game. You were just watching the ability to do it just as if it's cable and cable goes right to it and boom, you're right where you left off. I don't know how that is in technology by now. I don't know because they don't want you to leave the app. They don't want to make it easy for you to leave the app to watch something else.

[Rosenberg]

But there's other good things on other apps.

[Don Hahn]

There has to be a way I know to consume sports. I have all my apps. I can sign into them on this other platform that I can then last channel. So I can watch three games at once. So I can watch a bunch of things instead of being stuck with these. This thing.

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

It's frustrating.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

I get it.

[Don Hahn]

We need the technology. We need to figure it out and we need to do it.

[Rosenberg]

So I'm not showing any disrespect or shade as the kids say, please don't to prime.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

But when the Knicks play on ABC and espn, they seem to play well.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And at least in recent vintage.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it has. That is true Christmas Day.

[Rosenberg]

And you know that bodes well too. If they were able to get to the finals. All those games on abc.

[Peter]

When did John become like kind of Pepe Le Pew?

[Rosenberg]

I don't know where I got.

[Don Hahn]

It's like. It's like when I do the Southern thing and I don't even realize.

[Rosenberg]

No, I was doing. I knew.

[Don Hahn]

I realized what I was doing.

[Peter]

Wait, Southern Allen and French Don.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, yeah. If he was that bad.

[Rosenberg]

I knew what I was doing. But just the actions. If you're watching on YouTube. But I was giving you like a wrong.

[Peter]

You wanted to give them a little something. Yeah. A little extra for the people getting to watch along. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Just they got to comment on something. Right.

[Peter]

They give a little something.

[Don Hahn]

You know.

[Peter]

Let me see how they reacted to that.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, Bridges talked to ABC after the game. What was different for you in this game? Because we know it hasn't been very good for him.

[Don Hahn]

Just being who I am. You know what I'm saying? I think my energy comes off defense

[Peter]

and offensive flow is going to happen.

[Rosenberg]

I think just being locked in on

[Don Hahn]

defense is going to eventually get the

[Peter]

office going as well.

[Don Hahn]

Well, he played really like. That's a. That's a performance that says all right, that was worth five first round draft picks. Right.

[Rosenberg]

Well, he's just maddening. Is the team.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Peter]

He's had a couple of those.

[Don Hahn]

His off the offense in that game was phenomenal. His, the way he was reading weak side. He picked off what, three passes that turned into easy dunks. They were both. All of them felt like back breaking moments and he was knocking down his shots. I mean, that's the guy you're looking for. And, and you know, we love to make these excuses for a lot of the players all the time. Well, you know, he's coming from a place where he was the leading scorer. Now he's like a third guy. He has to adjust. I mean, you've been here, it's been a year and a half. If you haven't adjusted by now, right. You should be able to adjust.

[Rosenberg]

Be careful. I remember saying this when the Knicks got Chris Childs. Be careful of getting the great player on a bad team. Right. Because it's, it's a different world. But he's still really a pain in the neck to watch.

[Don Hahn]

Remember, he though, was on a good team. He played for the Suns and they were finals, you know, they were finals. Like he's, he's been around winning.

[Rosenberg]

No, I know, but just the direct, like the whole net thing.

[Don Hahn]

But there's a little more, there's a little more on his defense here than there has been in the past. And, and you know, it's, it's. They're asking a lot of him. That was a good one.

[Rosenberg]

Wemby, what went wrong in this loss?

[Don Hahn]

I think they did put some physicality, but not even the most that we've seen, you know, and for some reason

[Peter]

we were somewhat hesitant.

[Don Hahn]

I think in general team thing. Myself, I was especially hesitant on threes for some reason. I think I was holding the ball

[Peter]

a little too much when I shoved him.

[Don Hahn]

Just need a few more reps. That's it. Yeah.

[Peter]

Hesitant for some reason.

[Don Hahn]

By the way, he did a dunk, the one on Anunobi where he jumped. His back foot was at the elbow. You know, the elbows, the free throw line and then the lean.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don Hahn]

Like you've heard of the elbow jumper. Yeah, it's 15 footer from the elbow. He jumped from the elbow and dunked the basketball. He didn't take a step after being at the elbow. He jumped from the elbow and dunked it.

[Peter]

No, but that's, that's not it. He's so. He's so long though.

[Rosenberg]

It's.

[Peter]

He could lay down at the elbow and the, and his hand under the net.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it's the craziest thing. I mean, it wasn't a spectacular dunk. He did dunk.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's A little weird.

[Don Hahn]

More of when I watched the replay, I go, holy crap, where did he jumped from? That's not human. He's unreal. The watch in man. Unreal.

[Rosenberg]

I've said it before. One of the things to tell the grandkids about.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

I'll be. Obviously I'll be coming back the ghost of Christmas past when that happens. But when I come. When I. If I talked to him, I got. Got to call Nick Spursky.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

I got to call a Wemby game.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And I swear to God he was. He was at the foul line and the best way to describe it teleported to the basket. I don't know how he got there, but it wasn't. It was. He just like turned and was there.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. The man.

[Rosenberg]

Because he's just so.

[Don Hahn]

He. Telescopic arms. How did that happen? It's unreal.

[Rosenberg]

No, he's crazy.

[Don Hahn]

And he moves so well for a. Usually somebody that size has some type of coordination issues or rhythm issues with their ability to move. Agility. No, he moves so fluidly for someone that size. It's just a rare combination and it's what makes him fun to watch and. Which tells you this guy is going to terrorize the league for a long time. As long as he stays healthy, that is it. Yeah.

[Peter]

I mean if he were to actually have a full on healthy career, I can basically guarantee you He's a top 10 player all time.

[Don Hahn]

Abdul Jabbar has to be like. That's where I'd put him.

[Peter]

So you're not a top five player.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. His potential, especially as he gets stronger if he stays healthy, is literally Kareem.

[Peter]

That's what it is an insane scene.

[Rosenberg]

And I heard K bring this up and I never thought about it. You probably have. Do they have anybody above like 6, 6 besides Wemby? They're not a very good team.

[Don Hahn]

Luke Cornett's a seven footer who does a great job off the bench, but

[Rosenberg]

he's off the bat like. But like Castle I think is.

[Don Hahn]

No, all their go. They have a lot of gods.

[Rosenberg]

They're all like six, six, seven.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. They don't have like big time power forward. I think like Harrison Barnes might be like six, eight. Yeah, they don't have a lot of that, but their guards are really.

[Rosenberg]

Hornet's over seven.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. And Cornett's good. He. He comes off the bench, but he's played with the Celtics. You remember last year?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, I remember. Yeah, he's good. That was a really smart pickup. But yeah, they have a ton of talent. They give the Thunder fits. He loves going up against Chet Holmgren. Like he loves that matchup. I like if we get that as a playoff series in the second in the west, we'll be lucky to see something like that.

[Rosenberg]

We got lots to do today. Coming up at 4:30, we're going to have an NFL binge.

[Don Hahn]

Oh yeah.

[Rosenberg]

All right. We've got an ENN at 6. Got to talk about the Islanders. 25 in a row shape for two more goals now. 21st defenseman to score 20 goals for an Islander since somebody by the name of Denny Popen.

[Don Hahn]

I heard he was good. Familiar.

[Rosenberg]

Real good.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, he was pretty good.

[Peter]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn And Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want.

[Peter]

Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rosenberg]

All right, let's hear from you on the inconsistency of the Knicks. It's a good day today. They beat the Spurs. They beat Wemby. Got a winnable game tomorrow against Toronto. The gauntlet could be a winning record.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And then you go through the patsies at the end and just get to the damn playoffs already. That's what we're looking forward to is you know they're making it and you

[Don Hahn]

know they're going to be 50 wins 11 games away. Right, like that. That three straight years and 50 wins is something you haven't seen since the early 90s.

[Rosenberg]

And what. And so what do they got left? 22.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And they're going to go higher than 500.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, of course. I said they're 14 and four.

[Peter]

Sexy number 60.

[Don Hahn]

60 is a sex number. Feels. Feels tough.

[Peter]

High 50s, though, is cool. 56.

[Don Hahn]

57 again. 50. 50, what was it? 54 is the most they've had in the 2000s.

[Rosenberg]

So that was 13. 13.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. The mellow year. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

They could get over 54.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And that should get them the two.

[Don Hahn]

Gotta watch the Celtics. They used to lose.

[Rosenberg]

Don't tell you. The Raptors tomorrow either.

[Don Hahn]

No, they don't.

[Rosenberg]

Don't suck them into the conversation.

[Don Hahn]

No, I don't think you will and

[Rosenberg]

I don't think I don't. But even if he did, I mean, you still be have a two game and a loss column at lead on

[Don Hahn]

them, but I just don't trust Cleveland. I think Toronto's still young and shows it. Philadelphia lays in the weeds. But that embiid stuff, you just never know. Is he. Is he. Is he available? He's not available. The team that you worry the most about is Detroit. And as I said, they do. They have something about beating you that's personal. But they play at a playoff intensity now. And the only thing that people in the league are wondering is when everybody else ramps it up to playoff level, can Detroit take it to another level? Or they already. You know what I mean? Like, that's something you watch.

[Rosenberg]

You don't know.

[Don Hahn]

You just. You just don't know.

[Rosenberg]

Welcome to the world of parody. And I like this about the NBA, okay. I mean, I don't like it that it hasn't gone to the point where like anybody could win, but you're having a conversation of about. You're really having a Decent conversation about the Knicks, obviously the Pistons. So that's two teams. You want to go Celtics, you want to go Cavs? That's four. Now the spurs and the Thunder look like it was going to be the Thunder running away. No, no, no, not so fast.

[Peter]

No, no.

[Rosenberg]

They got six. Like you can have a conversation where there's a decent amount of possibilities here instead of just the old days where it's like, all right, just waiting on Cavs, warriors or waiting on no Heat, Spurs. You now know it could be a varietal of teams here that could get there. And it makes it a lot of fun. All right. 1-800-919-3776. Rodney starts us off in Westchester, ESPN, New York. Big Rod.

[Big Rod]

Yo, Guy.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know him that well.

[Don Hahn]

Has anybody ever called you that?

[Big Rod]

Well, you know what? Ironically on this show, I got called that and I said it should have made Drop Madness. That shows. Some years back I thought it was. And it was Peter that said it.

[Rosenberg]

So, Peter, you got a little bit of a habit.

[Peter]

So I have a thing about this. I hear next time somebody asks you

[Rosenberg]

who calls you Big Rod, say your wife, Big Rob.

[Peter]

Oh, wow. There is a drop.

[Don Hahn]

There is a drop.

[Peter]

That's unfortunate.

[Don Hahn]

June 29, 2022.

[Rosenberg]

22.

[Peter]

I haven't changed. We're going on four years. Years. 40 years later, I hear the name Rod and still just go big Rod.

[Big Rod]

There it is.

[Rosenberg]

There it is.

[Peter]

All right.

[Big Rod]

I got some funny. I got some funny stuff to say in regards to Alan doing his Southern guy and. And don't French guy. We need to have that. Those two. But with Freddy Kitchens, I think that is radio goal.

[Peter]

Wait, who in Kitchens?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, well, the French guy and Southern

[Don Hahn]

guy and Freddie Kitchen.

[Rosenberg]

Guess who Freddie would kick out of the party?

[Don Hahn]

Cajun Don.

[Rosenberg]

I think Cajun Don would be more welcomed by a Freddie Keegan than a

[Don Hahn]

French guy if he was not bad.

[Peter]

There you go.

[Big Rod]

Well, in regards to the. The Knicks, I agree with you guys. I think then I feel like the Knicks are going to be okay. I think come playoff time. I really do believe that they're going to turn up the heat in terms of how they play. I think it's a different Nick team from the years past. It's funny. I feel like the Pistons are playing how we played last year because they only know one intensity, and that was obviously due to Tibs. I think this time around, I do think it's different. And I feel guys, and I'm not a big cat guy. I'll be honest with You. But I do feel like Cat playoff time is going to surprise us. I think he's going to have some big games, and I think what we have to do with fans is kind of adjust. We have to adjust our thoughts on what that is like. Yeah, he's a guy that can go off for a lot of points, but it's the other stuff that he does that can help us win games. And I do feel that come playoff time, this team is going to put it together. Hopefully, you know, the. Against the Pistons, if we do meet up with them, and if that does happen, we prevail. But you know what? Real quick, Alan. I remember the days when I used to be on YouTube with Nick's Film School and KFTV and we were crying about Alonzo Trier and Damien Dodson. And you think about those days, and then you think of where we're at now.

[Don Hahn]

You dreamed of days like this.

[Big Rod]

Look back, and we exactly enjoy these moments, enjoy this, enjoy the fact that we have opportunities to actually be successful. And that's what you got to look at. And, guys, I'm just being optimistic. I know it's hard as a New York sports fan to do that, but it is important. Big Rod out. Love you guys.

[Don Hahn]

That's great we do this, though. And again, I'm guilty of it as much as anybody, but it is true, is that 18 games, they've lost four. And those four get magnified because we're looking for reasons why we should stop believing it's the way to protect ourselves. Right? But every team has flaws. We talk about the Denver Nuggets in NBA circles like a true contender because they have Jokic, and they've already won a championship in recent vintage. But when I watch them, they've got all kinds of flaws. All kinds of flaws. They've actually struggled lately. But because we don't watch them every day like we watch the Knicks every day here in New York, we only see flaws. And we want to point to them as reasons why not to believe. But they are a team that very much is in the hunt. And the only thing keeping us from truly believing it is the fact that the one team ahead of them that you worry about is the one team that they have not been able to.

[Rosenberg]

And that's why I think people get crazy about what happened against the Pistons, is because they do believe in this team. But what does it matter if there's a team ahead of you in the

[Don Hahn]

conference and they have your number, right?

[Rosenberg]

And they. And they've. And they've slugged you three times. And then the cav loss was magnified because it was like.

[Don Hahn]

It was an awful game. Awful game.

[Rosenberg]

You know, why are you playing it that they're handing you a win and you wouldn't take it? They're crawling up your back. So those are the things. I think it's because fans have a reason to believe. They've said a different standard where they freak out. Now when you lose those types of games, you shouldn't be losing those types of games when you're as good as they are. Blanderson, Hooper, you're on ESPN New York.

[Big Rod]

Good afternoon, gentlemen.

[Rosenberg]

What's up?

[Big Rod]

I just wanted to say, first of all, two points. 1. This is what's so maddening about this big team. Said you go into every game and you have no idea if they're going to win or lose. They have the ability to win and play great. They have the ability to just stink it up and just play horrible. But when I spoke to you guys last week, one of the things I mentioned was the inconsistency of McHale bridges. And I think that was on display this weekend. Yeah, Friday night I tweeted at Alan. I think. I think it was halftime. I think The Knicks had 77 points at halftime and Bridges was like 1 for 2 for 2 points. He finished with like 10 points, didn't shoot a 3, had like 6 assists. But not a good game. And then Yesterday, he dominates 25 points, five steals, hits five three pointers. You never know what you're going to get. So you know that averages out to 17 and a half points a game or whatever. But there are times where he just completely disappears and he just refuses to go to the hoop. I don't even think he's gonna. At the beginning of the year, I called and I spoke about how he's taking a lot of foul shots, which is something he didn't do a lot last year. Yeah, I don't even know if he's gonna hit 100 at this point this year, which is. Which is crazy when you think about. He is completely averse to going to the hoop. Now, I know he plays every night and maybe that is something do with why he plays all the time because he doesn't get the bumps and bruises on the offensive end that a lot of other guys do because he doesn't take it to the rack ever.

[Don Hahn]

He does fade away. But yesterday was the example of all the good things that he does bring. The ability to shoot the corner. Three, the ability to get out and run and play with pace he was reading well off the ball. I think he's a better off the ball defender than on.

[Big Rod]

Yeah. He's not a point of attack.

[Don Hahn]

Not good point of attack. You're right.

[Big Rod]

They've got. They've got an OBI doing that. So.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. And they've got others who can do it now too, including Alvarado. Right. They've got. And if they can get McBride back, you know, that one more guy and you can then say that leave Bridges off the ball as a read and react safety rather than, you know, the corner who has to cover the wide receiver. If you want to use NFL lingo. Right. Like it's just better sometimes if you can just be the free safety that's reading defenses and, and using your instincts and athleticism to do it. He did that, I thought wonderfully against the Spurs. So all things that are up to the head coach to start tinkering with and figuring out as you go forward.

[Rosenberg]

Thanks a lot, Brandon Blanderson for the call. You know where he's from?

[Peter]

Not Branderson, Landerson, Hooper.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it's of course not his real name. He has a. He has a Knicks podcast.

[Rosenberg]

I see.

[Peter]

Blanderson does.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. That's sort of his social media.

[Rosenberg]

Anthony just puts it up as Blanderson Hoop.

[Peter]

Well, no, it is definitely his social media in that part. I knew.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. I was just kind of curious where he's from.

[Don Hahn]

I can't believe that's his real name. I think it's more of a.

[Peter]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want.

[Peter]

Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Is it Method Man's birthday?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, it is.

[Peter]

And that's a spot from John Winthrop. You know it is. It is impressive that John can simultaneously be the single whitest man in America.

[Rosenberg]

Right? Who only seen Celine Dion live.

[Peter]

Only seen a Celine Dion hunter and then go, what's up with all the Method Man?

[Don Hahn]

A man. A man in a lavender quarter zip.

[Rosenberg]

Quarter zip.

[Don Hahn]

Who just did like almost like Nixon peace signs. Look at him.

[Rosenberg]

This is he.

[Peter]

Naturally. I'm not a crook.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Big Rod]

Why.

[Rosenberg]

Why did. Why was your piece.

[Don Hahn]

That was his celebration for getting Method Man.

[Peter]

I know this is. It's Method Man's birthday.

[Rosenberg]

Just. Just when you thought he was cool.

[Peter]

So what is he, 55?

[Rosenberg]

Nah.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, that's about right. That's about. I think I'm.

[Peter]

Hold on.

[Don Hahn]

I'm 46. No, I think we're in the same 53.

[Peter]

I'm gonna go 53.

[Don Hahn]

M E T. Look.

[Peter]

Are you looking? Are you guessing?

[Rosenberg]

Hey, you get all.

[Peter]

I'm not 50. 55. 55 on the nose.

[Don Hahn]

Double nickels. All the great ones.

[Peter]

This year's nickname is Hot Nicks.

[Don Hahn]

All the great ones.

[Peter]

Wow.

[Don Hahn]

Double nickels.

[Peter]

I'm writing him. I'm Send him a message. Hit the name drop.

[Don Hahn]

I said, happy birthday.

[Rosenberg]

All right.

[Don Hahn]

And then send him my contact information.

[Rosenberg]

When I did my Method.

[Peter]

Why is this blue? Oh, is it green?

[Don Hahn]

He's green.

[Rosenberg]

You know, I'll tell you what.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, I hate when it's green.

[Rosenberg]

I knew where I was with Peter.

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

When I. When I did the Method.

[Peter]

Big moment.

[Rosenberg]

You know, you were. When I did. Oh, look at his face. Like, he's not believe I did that.

[Don Hahn]

Stunned him.

[Rosenberg]

Was it K's roast at Yogi Bear Museum?

[Peter]

We were all there together.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Doing the show there. Then we had the K roast.

[Peter]

And that was the first time you

[Rosenberg]

bust out a fall off your chair. The only reaction that was better is when I did it for Stephen A. Stephen A.

[Peter]

Probably didn't even know it. Acted as if Stephen had to pretend to be.

[Don Hahn]

That's an allegation. I don't see him as a.

[Peter]

As a Wu Tang guy. Now. He knows song Method.

[Don Hahn]

Come on, man.

[Peter]

No, he knows.

[Don Hahn]

He's got it.

[Peter]

It's a big song. Yeah, but I don't exactly see. I can't picture Stephen A throwing on Enter the Wu Tang as he drives around.

[Don Hahn]

Is that all right? What is he playing?

[Peter]

Honestly, I could see Stephen A. Playing R and B. I would say

[Don Hahn]

R and B. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Stevie Wonder, maybe.

[Peter]

I would say. I would say more like.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe even, you know, Boys to Men.

[Peter]

I was thinking. I was thinking more like 80s. I was thinking more like Luther.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, really?

[Peter]

Yeah, I think like 80s vibes, you know, Orange Juice Jones, the Rain.

[Rosenberg]

I was like, that's like the Moonlighting theme.

[Peter]

What else? That's what I. That's what I think.

[Rosenberg]

I don't.

[Don Hahn]

I don't.

[Peter]

I do not picture Stephen A. Listening to hip hop by.

[Rosenberg]

So if he didn't know Method Man.

[Don Hahn]

Jermaine o', Neill, like, you think, not Jermaine o'. Neal. Jermaine o'. Neill. No, Jermaine. You know who I meant, though.

[Peter]

He was a true Alexander o'. Neill.

[Rosenberg]

Jermaine o'. Neill.

[Peter]

Oh, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Was he one of the first.

[Peter]

Oh, yes.

[Rosenberg]

Right out of high school.

[Peter]

I don't consider Jermaine o' Neal to be a strange basketball player. No, I consider Alexander strange.

[Don Hahn]

R, B, P. Alexander.

[Rosenberg]

No, no.

[Don Hahn]

That's a good pull.

[Peter]

It is a good pull.

[Rosenberg]

When. When. When I did that Stephen A. And he had a reaction like, oh, my God. And if he doesn't know the song.

[Peter]

No, he did. He knew the song. Listen to him.

[Rosenberg]

You think I was calling him Method Man. I was rapping about Him.

[Peter]

No, no, he knew. You're right, you're right, he knew.

[Don Hahn]

He thought you were dropping bars. He's like, oh, that's fire. Johnny Don Juan freestyle. Call me the Method Man. No, I don't.

[Peter]

I don't know what I thought. Well, happy birthday, Math. What a great guy. Super talented, great actor, great rapper, in great shape, Great gentleman. I just one of my favorite first handful of times I interviewed him, he always would sort of give me a hard time in this very fun.

[Don Hahn]

Like he's just a great guy.

[Peter]

And I know the whole Wu Tang is still reeling because Power died last week, like, you know, their forever manager. So they've been, I think in a very come together kind of moment since Power passed away last week from pancreatic cancer.

[Don Hahn]

So can I read one of my favorite quotes from meth?

[Peter]

Yeah, sure. Is it when he visited the Jets?

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter]

How did I know that you like that? How's that pull for you?

[Don Hahn]

So good.

[Peter]

What was it again?

[Don Hahn]

So good. You can fool the whole world down the highway of years and take pats on the back as you pass. But your final reward will be heartache and tears if you cheat the man in the glass.

[Peter]

Oh, we have the cut.

[Don Hahn]

I already read it. All right.

[Rosenberg]

I want to do a quote from Bill Parcell.

[Don Hahn]

You can point your world down the

[Rosenberg]

highway of years and take pats on

[Don Hahn]

the back as you pass. But your final reward will be heartache and tears if you cheat the man in the glass.

[Rosenberg]

Jets or three. What? Two?

[Don Hahn]

Three, man. And that was the best of time. It never got better ever than that.

[Peter]

That was. Was that in heading into Rogers first year?

[Don Hahn]

Yes, that was. That was Camelot. It was Camelot.

[Rosenberg]

Man.

[Peter]

The jets have some great fans too.

[Rosenberg]

No, as far as like cool celebrity fan. Yeah. What? Kevin James. And you go to.

[Peter]

I wouldn't start Kevin James, but sure, just try as they pop.

[Rosenberg]

I gotta rank them now.

[Peter]

Well, Method man would have been a good start. We just said.

[Don Hahn]

We were just talking about it.

[Peter]

Q tip. Of course.

[Don Hahn]

Yes. Q tip.

[Rosenberg]

It was big James Gandolfini.

[Peter]

Gandolfini with us. Fife Dog. Who's with us?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

Sandler, right?

[Don Hahn]

I mean, Greenie might be the. Adam Sandler might be the biggest.

[Rosenberg]

You went Green. He's such a kiss, you know.

[Don Hahn]

Wow. Can he help you?

[Rosenberg]

He can't help you at all.

[Peter]

Hold on. But Greeny, we're not going to act like he's not a fan. We're not going to act as if Greeny, when it comes to the jets, is a journalist. He's not a journalist.

[Rosenberg]

No, but he's a fanboy. I know. You got on me for Kevin James and then you pull Mike Greenberg.

[Peter]

I. I think he's not wrong.

[Don Hahn]

He's just. And I love green. He's not wrong.

[Peter]

I think Green is bigger than Kevin.

[Don Hahn]

Kevin James.

[Rosenberg]

Come on. Listen, I love you.

[Peter]

No, I do. I do. In a. In a respected. In like the quality of his star. I believe the quality of green star.

[Rosenberg]

I am higher. Don't put me in a place.

[Peter]

You're the one who did it.

[Rosenberg]

Don't move me in a place. Now I'm going to have to debate and try to devalue Mike Greenberg.

[Peter]

I think the value of his car is higher.

[Rosenberg]

Kevin James.

[Peter]

I think Kevin James is kind of punchliney.

[Don Hahn]

Is that bad?

[Peter]

I think Kevin James is kind of.

[Don Hahn]

Would you prefer Ray Romano?

[Rosenberg]

Ray Romano's good, by the way.

[Peter]

Ray.

[Rosenberg]

It's funny.

[Peter]

Ray Romano and Kevin James, very similar. Not like the best ever film careers, but really good television careers. I believe, though, that Ray Romano, for whatever reason, in my brain, I respect him more as an actor than Kevin James.

[Rosenberg]

Because Kevin James never really. I don't know if you want to talk about the Sean Payton movie as drama, but he's never taken on any real serious role.

[Peter]

Was Kevin James Paul Blart?

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter]

That's the. That's the tough thing to bounce back from. Well, I'm gonna be honest that. That's.

[Rosenberg]

Even Ray Romano. Ray Romano was in the Irishman. No, he didn't. He's had.

[Peter]

I watched a Ray Romano drama from like a year ago about him being just like a hard working father in Queens.

[Don Hahn]

He's good.

[Peter]

He's like a really good dramatic actor. I don't see that from Kevin James.

[Don Hahn]

Respectfully, Matthew Modine. You all right with that?

[Rosenberg]

Hold on.

[Peter]

You know what? For the younger people out there.

[Don Hahn]

No, people watch Stranger Things. He's papa.

[Rosenberg]

I know, but he was also in Full Metal Jacket. I mean, we're not.

[Peter]

Oh, he's literally in Stranger Things, Vision Quest. Yeah, he's also double reason.

[Don Hahn]

A very, very popular.

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Peter]

Well, it's a song.

[Don Hahn]

It's a song. Larry David.

[Peter]

LD's a big jets fan. Yeah, Fraud, but still broad jets fan.

[Rosenberg]

Well, he's also likes the Giants and.

[Peter]

But jets are number one for him.

[Rosenberg]

I think they are. But he also likes the Giants.

[Peter]

But his number one team. The least fraudulent team for LD is the Knicks. Maybe the Rangers.

[Don Hahn]

No, he's a psycho Knicks fan.

[Peter]

No, he's a really good.

[Rosenberg]

He's.

[Peter]

I can't you think he's a bigger Knicks or Rangers fan?

[Don Hahn]

I thought he was a bigger jets fan, though. Remember? He's the one.

[Rosenberg]

He's a bigger Jet fan. But that was the whole thing where he was in the studio and he's like, why didn't Cockle play more in the second period? The Rangers flipped out on it. Like, they played it in the room. Like they couldn't believe. Wow. He was.

[Peter]

Maybe it was surprising because he also.

[Don Hahn]

Was it. With who did he argue with about a draft pick one time to get. He needed to know why.

[Rosenberg]

Well, no, he had reached out to McCagnon.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

That's that they should have taken Lamar Jackson.

[Don Hahn]

Yes. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, that and they should have.

[Don Hahn]

Pretty. Pretty good idea.

[Rosenberg]

Obviously would have been a good idea,

[Peter]

but, oh, they would have ruined him.

[Don Hahn]

They do something, right. They would have found a way.

[Rosenberg]

Jon Favreau.

[Peter]

Favreau also.

[Don Hahn]

Favreau fan. Yeah. I like that.

[Rosenberg]

It's a good one because he told me the one time we had him on that he gets together, like, with Kevin James and Ray Romano out in la. Like, there's a pocket of celebrities that go out in LA to do the Jets.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. When they, when they watch games.

[Rosenberg]

I'll tell you what, by the way, it was nice. 10 o' clock in the morning start.

[Peter]

You got Favreau. Can we still reach out to these

[Don Hahn]

gentlemen and, and start tapping into this?

[Peter]

Nice. Well, you're the one who bumps into people at the Garden.

[Don Hahn]

I, I, we.

[Peter]

You got to get aggressive. I'm gonna be honest. I hate to put it on you. You got to get aggressive.

[Don Hahn]

Tracy Morgan invited me to his house, in fact, said, you don't need an invitation. Door's always open. Just walk in. And I'm like, really? I can walk in your house?

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

How I want it.

[Peter]

Where's the.

[Don Hahn]

Should I test that?

[Rosenberg]

Why not? That's what he's telling you to do.

[Don Hahn]

Like, if he's like, you know, whenever you just, like, wait for the invitation, just show up, doors always open. And I'm thinking, I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy. I call him on this, and there I am just at the door. Like, you know, Tracy said, anytime, but

[Rosenberg]

he said, anytime I want to see

[Peter]

the fish and the weird iguanas and

[Rosenberg]

stuff, that he has to walk in, do it. Alan. Han, man, what are you doing?

[Don Hahn]

He just told me anytime I wanted, and I just, I'm around.

[Rosenberg]

I, I say that to a lot of people, man. That's what I'd be afraid of.

[Don Hahn]

Great.

[Rosenberg]

I better be funny Nancy, dvr. The new TV show he's in. Tracy Moore. I couldn't. No, I just doesn't feel like I'd like it.

[Peter]

What is it? What's it called? The End.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, it's got a big name. He's a former football player. It was trailer.

[Peter]

Anthony. Anthony. What's the name again? Didn't you check the show on NBC?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, yeah.

[Peter]

Reggie Dinkins.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkins.

[Don Hahn]

The trailer's hilarious.

[Peter]

There's a lot of potential. Him as a failed running back. Feels like potential, right?

[Rosenberg]

But I saw the commercial. Commercial at nauseum during the Olympics, and I just. I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, that's what it was.

[Rosenberg]

It didn't feel like it'd be something I like. But it's on the dvr. Who knows? There you go. Maybe I'll try to get to it.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter]

I don't want to know how the

[Don Hahn]

sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter,

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