C (1:38)

Come on, man.

B (1:39)

April's been around a while, man. Grow up.

E (1:42)

April's been around a while,

C (1:46)

but that's what we get. That's why, like, it's. It's. You never know what the hell April is the month that in the morning, you're like, ah, it's cold. It's kind of damp. I'll put on a sweater. And then by three, you're. You're just melting. And then reverse in the morning, Sun's out. It's nice. It's pretty silent. You know, I'll go shirt sleeves today and then middle afternoon freeze.

E (2:07)

Well, I tried the other day. Do you remember? Alan was, like, fantasizing about a roof day one day this week. And I was like, I feel like we're jumping ahead. I don't know.

C (2:16)

You were reading me the temperatures coming.

E (2:18)

I was like, you didn't need to do that. It was a high of like 62. I'm like, but that low is 40, 47. It's currently 46. Happy Passover to those who partake. I had a nice seder last night with my wife's family, and I have officially moved back to my old residence. You don't see this every Day, folks. You don't see the person so relieved. You don't see the person leave fully move and then four months later move back. It's not done.

B (2:44)

Well, let me just. We'll get into everything, believe me, because I'm really aggravated today. So this will be good radio.

E (2:52)

Perfect.

B (2:52)

Just get ready.

E (2:53)

Well, it's a Talk about it Thursday.

B (2:54)

No, it's not.

E (2:55)

No, it's not.

B (2:56)

You want it to be, but I'm

E (2:57)

joking because Talk about it Tuesday and that guy Thursday are so close.

B (3:00)

Is there any way that you can have your talk about it?

E (3:02)

No, I have a. That guy.

B (3:04)

All right, good. Because you definitely had that guy during talk about it on Tuesday.

E (3:08)

That was a hell of one. Yeah, but what did you want to get into?

B (3:11)

Because I'd like to get into. Because I've got a game. Easter Sunday in Montreal, right. So if it were Christmas Day, I'd wish everybody a Merry Christmas. Not have to disclaim or anything. Maybe throw in a Happy Holidays. But on the day of Christmas, you can go and you could just say to the audience, merry Christmas.

C (3:30)

Because it's a day.

B (3:31)

Because it's a day.

C (3:32)

I agree.

B (3:33)

I don't think I can come on the air on Sunday and say Happy Easter.

C (3:36)

Why not?

B (3:37)

Why not?

E (3:38)

Because it's just.

B (3:38)

I know it's a day. It's different because there is no Happy Holidays. First of all, I have a theory.

E (3:46)

But it's still Passover on Sunday, so

B (3:48)

you can get both. So what do I say? I gotta say both or can. I can't say Happy Holiday. People think I lost.

E (3:52)

I think you can, Alan. I'll let you get in here. I think you can. First of all, I have no problem. I think you can definitely say Happy Easter. Easter Sunday is definitely its own big thing. But if you want to be safe, you could say, Happy Easter Sunday, everyone. And to everyone who's. Who's in the middle of Passover. Happy Passover. Very easy.

C (4:08)

That. That's. That's the easiest thing to do, right? For sure. But I also think, like, sometimes we do overthink this stuff.

E (4:14)

Yeah, I think so too.

C (4:15)

Christmas and Easter, while they are religious holidays for. For you, Don. For me. Right. They are religious, but they are also sort of like holidays.

E (4:28)

But Easter. I understand Don's point, because Easter. Not as much as Christmas. Christmas is literally. Here's why Jewish person. I make plans. What am I going to do for dinner on Christmas? Like I make. I make plans for it. Easter. I don't. Here's my feelings.

C (4:43)

What I feel this way, because for some reason, our holidays always seem to have a character attached to it, and it becomes agnostic.

E (4:52)

I know the reason why. The reason is called Hallmark and cvs.

C (4:56)

It's called. Yeah, it's capitalism. Right?

E (4:58)

That's right.

C (4:59)

Commercialism. All the things that go with it. But. So you have a Santa Claus and you have an Easter Bunny, and last I checked, neither one of them, even though Santa Claus is supposed to be St. Nick, but that's a whole other story. The point is, though, they're both kind of cartoonish characters that are associated to a holiday that doesn't always have to be based on religion. So I just think it's a day, and if you want to wish people like, I did it when I left get up this morning, I left knowing I was not working tomorrow. So I said, happy Easter to those who celebrate.

B (5:30)

But, see, you had the disclaimer.

C (5:32)

But to those who celebrate. But that's all you have to say. It's just easy.

B (5:36)

I just don't know why we can't say Happy Holidays.

C (5:38)

Happy Holidays.

B (5:39)

Why has it been taken by. By Christmas? Same thing.

C (5:46)

Whatever the hell you want to say.

E (5:47)

You're gonna be fine.

C (5:48)

Devils.

E (5:48)

Yeah, that's exactly right.

C (5:50)

If. If anybody can wish people Christmas and Easter, it's the guy who's the voice of the devil.

E (5:54)

You kidding me? I dare them. I dare them. Dare them to say anything to you.

B (5:59)

I just wish there was a way.

E (6:00)

I don't know if devil plays great at this time of year.

B (6:03)

You don't think so?

E (6:04)

People. Religious people. I will say I was doing a bit. I was doing a bit on my morning show where I'd be the devil, because, Don, you remember, I used it as the voice of God on this show. I made it the voice of the devil on the morning show. Let me tell you something. People love it. And other people get very like, can you please not play with the devil? Please don't play with the devil. So I stopped doing it. I didn't want to offend people.

C (6:27)

It's just like the other day when Don said Beetlejuice three times.

E (6:30)

Don. Yeah, you risky boy.

C (6:33)

You right.

B (6:34)

I see no evidence outside of the theater where that's an issue.

E (6:41)

Outside of the theater.

C (6:42)

Out of the theater.

E (6:43)

I hear you.

B (6:44)

All right. So we got that out of the way.

E (6:48)

All right.

B (6:48)

Aggravated about the weather. The other thing that always aggravates me is. And we talked about this last year, guys, because we were together during the start of last year.

C (6:57)

That's race.

B (6:59)

Oh, it's too early to get crazy. It's too early to analyze. We're only six games into the season. Okay, well, then let's talk about Kirk Cousins signing with the Raiders. Let's talk about Trevor Bauer, now a member of the Long Island Ducks. Let's talk about the Knicks Grizzlies last night. But don't. No, I don't want to. I want to be able to talk about the baseball teams. People are baseball fans now. I don't think you need to overreact. I don't think Yankee fans have to now start, you know, picking their position to the canyon heroes for the parade. And I don't think Met fans should be jumping off the George Washington Bridge. But if I'm going to be on every day, and with baseball's popularity in the city, we've got to analyze what we see. And on one side, it's terrific. I mean, I'm telling you, Alan, I don't think this is hyperbole. This is going to be a fun season for you. You know, you got a good enough offense. That's why they ran it back. We'll see what happens in the postseason. But, you know, last I checked, it's not October. But two of your best pitchers haven't thrown a ball yet. And you got the best pitching staff in baseball. Not only that, but one of the best pitching staffs we've ever seen through the first six games.

C (8:07)

For the first time in a long time, you have a phenom coming out of your, you know, like, right, you. You developed a pitcher out of your system who has become a true phenom. Not one of these guys that we've heard about, that you keep hearing about that is going to be the next. Whatever. This dude came almost out of nowhere and he's been phenomenal. And by the way, he's got a little bit of attitude, which is nice because it's, you know, I know it's. It's a little stuffy up here at IBM, but every now and then, among all the guys wearing the white oxford shirts, we need somebody wearing a, you know, like a blue shirt, a different color shirt. That'd be nice. Well, that looks like Cam Schlitler's that guy.

B (8:48)

Yeah. And you know what? It doesn't seem like it's an act, you know, like, I'm going to go in there and be somebody I'm not. That's just who he is. Now, obviously, you've got to continue to pitch well, because the second you don't, it'll get thrown back in your face.

C (9:02)

Yep.

B (9:03)

But you got to like it. And he's pitching great. And we got into it a little bit yesterday. Peter, you were off. They took him out early in the game, but what was it? 79 pitches, because that was his pitch count. They're trying to be careful with him because people want to see him. And there's something about pitching in New York. It's always been more of a Met thing because of Seaver and Gooden, because the Mets always had good pitchers, but even the Yankees in recent vintage, with guys like Arabu, before it went south, and Tanaka, where you get excited like, it's a Tanaka day. It's a cold day. You know, it's a degrom day. It's a Harvey day, you know, like. Because there's just something about having a really good picture. You know, Cam's getting to that point. He really is. To where when he's pitching, you're going to make sure that's a day that you're going to sit down and be there for. First pitch.

C (9:52)

We can workshop that.

E (9:54)

Well, that's the thing. Let's be real, guys. The name. Let's focus on Cam. Right? Yeah.

B (10:00)

Right.

E (10:01)

Schlitler is tough. Just be honest.

C (10:03)

Yeah. Don struggles with it all the time.

E (10:05)

Well, we've heard.

C (10:07)

We've heard that.

B (10:07)

I'm not the only one.

E (10:09)

Yeah, but there's a lot of, like.

B (10:10)

Schlittler.

E (10:11)

Schlitler.

C (10:11)

Yeah, there you go. But now you're getting it.

B (10:13)

When you're talking extemporaneously and it's flowing. Fantastic.

E (10:18)

That's tough.

B (10:19)

What I do. Shitler was fantastic. Why you. Why you. Why you beeping?

E (10:25)

You had to.

B (10:26)

What do you mean, you had to.

E (10:27)

It was an actual curse.

B (10:28)

No, it's a bad word. The TV show, we were able to throw that out because the intent. No, seriously.

E (10:36)

Well, I don't know. That's a no.

B (10:38)

You were allowed to say it because that's not what that word means. So you're allowed to say it. Correct. Right. You'll say Schitt's Creek. Right?

E (10:47)

That's a problem. That's fine. Zero problem. Name of the show.

B (10:49)

You're good. You know, I'm not saying that word. Yeah, but that's not my intent.

C (10:54)

Yeah, but, like, you are, though.

E (10:55)

That's the thing. When you just say blank lure. It's not Blank Creek. It's blank now. It's just.

B (11:01)

Listen, you could say. All right, Don, you know, get your. Get your cam together here, guy. All right? Because we can't keep. We. We can't Keep talking. But to bleep it out.

E (11:12)

Well, how about this? I have another. Let me. I'll.

B (11:14)

I'm good.

C (11:15)

I'll.

B (11:15)

You see the glass?

E (11:16)

Yeah.

B (11:17)

You'll break my fist through it right now.

E (11:19)

All right.

C (11:20)

Please do.

B (11:20)

All right.

C (11:20)

I think you can.

B (11:21)

If you told me. Jacob, look at me. Don't laugh. Look at me. When I slipped yesterday, Shitler was fantastic. Did you dump me? No, I did not.

E (11:35)

Well, Don, I have another thing.

B (11:36)

Thank you.

E (11:37)

You know why?

B (11:38)

Because that's grown up stuff that Jacob's.

E (11:40)

I have something to play for you though, that's also troubling. And I have a hunch we'll be seeing this eleven and a half months from now.

B (11:46)

Okay.

E (11:47)

This is from 301 on today's show

D (11:50)

on ESPN New York and streaming live on YouTube.

B (11:54)

Five hundred and one of the big city.

E (11:55)

Look at that.

B (11:57)

Hey, listen. I have history.

C (11:59)

Boy, that went. Those two hours went by fast. The show is so much fun. It just flies by, you know.

E (12:05)

You know it's something good when the only response is hey, listen.

B (12:07)

Hey, listen.

E (12:09)

That's all you can.

B (12:10)

Because I was. I've got a history. Cinco de Mayo, February 5th.

E (12:14)

February 5th. Yeah, we remember that.

C (12:15)

We have established on this show is that you get away with nothing.

B (12:21)

The show is for Michael K. Who the last I checked, basically runs the station. The transmitter would always give the wrong day, the wrong year, the wrong year. He one time gave his cell phone number Al. In lieu of the actual number to call in.

E (12:37)

I forgot about that.

B (12:38)

How we all have our moments.

C (12:41)

I remember that and I can't remember how that.

B (12:44)

Like what.

C (12:44)

What. What inspired that? Like.

B (12:47)

No, nothing inspired it.

E (12:48)

He just being a. Yo, yo.

B (12:49)

He gave a phone number out that wasn't the right number.

C (12:52)

But it's so much different than, you know, 1, 800. His cell phone isn't 1, 800, that's the thing.

E (12:58)

It is.

B (12:59)

No, but he. The way he responded as if somebody asked what your cell.

C (13:04)

So crazy. How fast can you rattle off your cell phone number?

B (13:07)

Pretty fast. Because you get asked about it all the time now. That's always like a form of identification. So I could rattle it off pretty good.

C (13:16)

Look at you.

E (13:17)

Mine too. Yeah. I wouldn't give it out on the air.

B (13:19)

No. But listen, I had no intention of saving 501 either.

E (13:23)

Right. They don't happen in a vacuum either.

B (13:26)

I'm. I'm. Now. Well, it's just for whatever reason, the cough's been tough to shake and I'm just. And then when I lay down to go to bed. That's when it's at its worst. So I haven't had a lot of sleep. So I apologize to all of the 501 people that are offended that I didn't say 301.

C (13:45)

Yeah, now they're checking their time.

B (13:47)

Dan Riley checked me. So only one person on Twitter, which is basically autocorrect for the world.

C (13:53)

So that's where the experts live.

B (13:55)

So all the experts were tied there.

C (13:57)

All the perfect people.

B (13:59)

So Yankee fans, so typical. You're in great shape. 5 and 1, back to back series wins. And now you come home to take on a Marlins team that's also 5 and 1 and playing out of their minds. But you got to feel good about where the Yankees are. And then there's the Mets.

C (14:14)

Oh boy.

B (14:15)

Three and three, you know, not a big deal. You know, they did win the series against Pittsburgh, lose a series against St. Louis. Not hitting. It seems like everybody that came over during the off season collectively has not hit. Bichette hasn't hit for the most part. Simeon hasn't hit. There's, there's issues with the offense. But hey, you know, you say, oh, cold weather because it wasn't great in St. Louis. It's only six games. I'm not going to freak. Yesterday irritated me, Peter. I was telling Talon because 4 and 2 just looks different than 3 and 3. If you win yesterday and you lose in 11 innings, then you've won two series in a row, you just feel better about the team. But then you lose, you drop two and three to an awful Cardinals team and now you're three and three and you just average. But this Lindor Soto stuff, guys, it just. Lindor. We tried to get into it because it was on the air, forgetting how many outs there are. Getting picked off. At first we heard later on that had to do with they had a play, said they thought that the pitcher had a tell. Whatever.

C (15:19)

He just. That's not what he said.

B (15:20)

What?

C (15:22)

I don't know. Didn't he admit they just brain freeze?

B (15:25)

No, well, I. That. Well, yeah. Then that's two because he said he forgot how many outs there were on the double play.

C (15:32)

The first one.

B (15:32)

Yeah, but the pickoff play, I thought I had but good.

C (15:36)

Forget me, continue the story.

B (15:37)

But then that's what happened where he just doesn't move. And then ironically what happens is Soto hits a solo home run instead of a two run homerun. You lose by a run. Now, I'm not going to suggest that Lindor intentionally got picked off because he Knows that Soto's gonna hit a home run and wants to rob him of an rbi. But clearly there's something going on with Lindor.

E (16:01)

There's something going on, and there clearly

B (16:03)

is something going on with Soto, because this is Lindor back in February. Was there a lack of clubhouse chemistry?

F (16:14)

We've always pulled for each other. We always wanted what's best for each other. Are we all best friends? That's not how he works in the clubhouse. But we are friends. We're good teammates. We care for each other. We love for each. We love each other, and we want the best for each other. You know, and we have a lot of new faces here that guys seem like they're gonna work hard and they're gonna do whatever it takes to win. You know, ultimately, that's what it comes down to. It's all about winning. Everybody pulling the same direction.

B (16:39)

Right. So there's two things there. No issues. We don't have to all love each

E (16:46)

other, but he did include that.

B (16:47)

But clearly there's no love loss between himself and Soto. And then you see all the trades that happened during the off season. We've heard about chemistry. And when you see guys get dealt. Alonzo, McNeil, Nimmo, were they a problem with the chemistry? Well, no, it looks like if there was chemistry problems, it was between Lindor and Soto. So now you're moving guys that, what, maybe were Lindor guys where they moved? Because they were Soto guys. I. Well, just wonder.

E (17:21)

Alonzo, I feel like we should take out of this. I think. Do we really think Alonzo has anything

C (17:25)

to do with that?

E (17:26)

Wasn't Alonzo just a matter?

B (17:27)

I think you're right. Alonzo is a guy that Stearns didn't really want. He hit the biggest home run in franchise history. We got to bring him back.

C (17:36)

Yep.

B (17:36)

And they won 83 games. They didn't bring him back. You're probably right. Good job.

C (17:40)

It was not only that. They brought him back for the two reasons. One, yes, because of the fan reaction. Remember, the owner got booed at that fan fest, and, you know, that didn't sit well with him. And on top of it, when you sign Soto and Soto looks at the lineup, that's how the story goes. He looked at the lineup and said, we're going to add anything to this, knowing that he needed. He needs protection in the lineup. So that's what motivated bringing Alonzo back. Those two things.

B (18:06)

Right.

C (18:07)

But it was never going to be long term because you could just tell. Sure, Stearns couldn't wait to get to the team that he wanted to build which is what this team is.

B (18:15)

And we know that McNeil and Lindor had a bit of a back and forth too. So now it just kind of builds into what is the problem with this team. And it feels like Lindor is the bigger problem. He's struggling. He's forgetting how many outs there are getting picked off of first base. Coming off a year last year we committed more errors than ever did in his career. He's an A plus defender. Was not last year. And people need to remember too. This was Cohen's first big deal. He traded for Lindor when he could have waited for him to become a free agent. Traded for him and then gives him the 10 year contract extension. So I'm sure Steve Cohen's like listen if Lindor's a problem he ain't going anywhere. He's my guy. What's going figure this out. I'm sure that's what Cohen's saying. And then Stearns is trying to figure it out by moving pieces and doing things that because he can't do the obvious. If there are two guys that don't get along with each other these are the two best players on the team. Two of the highest paid players on the team. You can't move them. They're pillars. Not going anywhere. So who is going to figure this out guys? Because clearly the players have no appetite to do it. They seem to want to let everybody know that they have problems with each other.

C (19:32)

We all know who's who who I think this falls on first.

B (19:36)

Okay.

C (19:37)

And that's the manager.

B (19:39)

All right. Let's analyze that aspect because you're not wrong.

C (19:43)

It's on Mendoza to a acknowledge it and not pretend it doesn't exist. Be confront it and deal with it immediately.

B (19:50)

Okay.

C (19:51)

And then hold the players accountable when they don't now. But I don't know if he's got that kind of power.

B (19:55)

Well I want to dive deeper into that. Can we when we come back.

C (20:00)

Oh boy.

B (20:01)

From Peter breaking down we now it's we're not messing around here Peter. Welcome to the Elite Eight.

E (20:08)

And I I'm saying bold statement was made earlier today. Yeah. I feel strongly about this. I know others may disagree and that's fine. I believe this is the maybe strongest most diverse Elite Eight in the history of drop madness.

C (20:24)

Wow.

E (20:25)

That's how strongly I feel about these incredible competitors who have done what they can to perform. We get started. I'll let you play him Jacob because I can't find them. We start in the flub region, where of course, we have maybe the overall number one seed in the tournament.

B (20:40)

25amonth. Don on a Rosenberg with you until

E (20:44)

seven up against the three seed. Disgusted with this, he Don, why do you hate Harbaugh?

B (20:56)

Then he knocked out Satan John's.

E (20:58)

Did you try to tip the scale for that one or you let it go on its own?

B (21:01)

I really didn't think I had to because I really hate that Richard trial.

E (21:05)

Well, how could you hate that?

B (21:06)

Because it's him being dumb. Who cares? So I didn't think I had to. And then when I. Then I was doing the show, I'm like, oh, it's enn. Let me check and see how it's doing. And I was flabbergasted.

C (21:19)

How no tolerance.

E (21:20)

How big did Harbaugh win?

B (21:22)

What was it Anthony like? It was significant. Right?

E (21:25)

I'll go back and check. But it wasn't close.

C (21:27)

It felt like it was a landslide.

E (21:28)

Well, that's tough. Well, Richard, out we go to the funny region. The one seed. A little yo, yo, monkey boy. He wanted me to jump up and make the jokey jokey. So the people go, laugh time. This is how. This is why the committee got this so good. That's the one seed up against the two seed.

B (21:42)

He got the job.

C (21:43)

Yes.

B (21:45)

That's a good one. That's a really good matchup.

E (21:48)

That is. That's. That's prime time tonight.

B (21:49)

Oh, Marco lost. It was 54, 46. So it was a lot closer.

E (21:52)

Good. That's a good effort. So that Vape Ape rant versus Don Job, you ass. And again, it's gonna be an uphill battle for Vape Ape Rant. We know the favorite in every matchup is Donnie.

B (22:04)

There is a formula.

E (22:05)

It. No, it's not only yelling. This is a combo. It's yelling and cursing like he's. You know, it's got a little slight curse in there.

B (22:11)

And you also found the nuance of the ya. Yeah, the placement of the ass is just.

E (22:16)

It's insane. So. No, but listen, Vape Ape, that. That has made Don more than anything. Well, I've heard.

B (22:23)

I've got a dog in a fight, but still, I love Vape Ape.

E (22:27)

Now, troubling region. The one seed. I had diarrhea.

C (22:31)

That you dream about again. This Pusick is the well placed. Oh, it's it. It's what makes that drop more than anything. It's funny. And then it's funnier because of Puzick.

E (22:41)

Well, guess what? It's Pusick versus Pusick the two seed. You suck Pusick. That is.

C (22:47)

That one, by the way, has a huge following.

E (22:50)

Yeah. No, you suck.

C (22:52)

Pusick has become like the Cinderella of this whole thing, the darling of the tournament.

E (22:57)

Yeah, they. Can you imagine one shining moment, them cutting the nets down. You suck Pusick. At the end, people doubted, and then it to be. It would just be special. We go to the nether region, and I. These, to me, could be two of the most powerful drops of the tournament. The one seed. This is college football.

B (23:14)

This is.

E (23:20)

I still laugh. I still laugh now.

C (23:23)

Oh, my God.

E (23:24)

How do I still laugh?

B (23:26)

I know.

E (23:26)

I've heard it a million times, and

C (23:28)

I never gets old.

B (23:29)

And I was trying to explain to Marco how Holy cannoli lost.

C (23:35)

Oh, no.

B (23:36)

And Nancy's like, to. To what? And I said, carlin choking. She's like, why would Carlin choking win? I couldn't even do it justice. I said, you got to hear it. If you heard it, you would understand.

E (23:46)

To hear a man nearly lose his life while just trying to call a game.

B (23:49)

Right.

E (23:50)

It's not something you expect to hear every day.

B (23:51)

And the callous playing of the music, like they're playing out his death.

E (23:55)

Yeah, they're playing him out. Stop taking exactly.

C (23:57)

What happened.

E (23:58)

Stop taking so long to die.

B (24:00)

When the music comes up, I swear

C (24:03)

I'm just seeing a producer panicking, going,

E (24:05)

just play the music.

C (24:06)

Play it out. Play it out.

E (24:07)

It's too good. Best part is, Maggie Gray said this

C (24:11)

week, since she's been on with Carlin,

E (24:13)

that she heard it and asked a day later if he was okay if I. And I get it. It's troubling. It's up against, though. A really. This is. This is the best Richard team we've seen. And it's the seven seed.

C (24:26)

Take it off.

E (24:28)

Take it all off. Richard sounding like he's committing sexual assault. Carlin has tweeted. Yep. Time for Richard to hit the bricks.

B (24:36)

Yeah. I don't disagree.

C (24:37)

Yeah.

E (24:38)

So this case. Wow. These matchups find strange bedfellows. Don was anti Carlin the other day. Now he's lined up with Carlin.

C (24:46)

Me too.

E (24:47)

To take out Richard.

C (24:48)

I'm face painting for Carlin in this game.

E (24:51)

All right, so you have. You have Don interrupting the commercial versus Harbaugh. You got the vape ape rant against. Don's got the job. You ass diarrhea like you dream about against. You suck Pusick. And Carlin choking against Richard's. Take it off. These. All these drops, you know what they all are the second you say them. That's what makes them special. Go vote right now. DHR on ESPN. That's on Twitter. Vote in the elite eight. All right, you have till 6:20.

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D (27:35)

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

E (27:39)

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

D (27:40)

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B (27:48)

Allen's right. If there's something going on between Lindor and Soto that's affecting the team, we don't know that for a fact, but it does feel like there's tension there. Kind of makes sense for the manager to step in and say, guys, let's grow up here, let's get to work. But Mendoza has never been a manager before this stint with the Mets. He's in his third year, so really it's only two years as being a manager. How much gravitas does he have in that room now? He was part of a team. He was the manager of the team that went to game six of the league championship series. Soto was not there for that, but Lindor certainly was. But I just wonder now in the new era of not just sports but also baseball, like is there, you're going to have to have backing, you're going to have to have backing of your general manager and your owner if you're going to be able to do that. And I look at Stearns and he's only been here a handful of years as well and he doesn't look like a guy that's going to be getting any players faces. I actually think the guy that should say something is Cohen. He's the billionaire that paid these guys all this money. He's the one that wanted Lindor. It wasn't Stearns that traded for him. You know, Cohen was the guy that was really pulling the strings. Wanted Lindor, gave him the 10 year contract extension after he, after the trade. And then you gave all that money to Soto. Like wouldn't it mean more if he walked in the room and said, all right guys, it's ridiculous. I've literally paid you like a billion dollars each to go out there and play baseball for me. Let's grow up here.

C (29:25)

Yes.

B (29:26)

I think this only feel like that goes farther than Mendoza or Stearns.

C (29:31)

Well, who else? Like again he's the one guy though that has clout. Like this would be, you know, Steinbrennian. This is what you have to do is we got a problem here because it's all I'm seeing on my timeline. Do we have a problem? Do we need to split you two up? Do we? Should, should I, should I now start trying to trade one of you and we all know which one will be easier to trade. Like you. That's the stuff is you just, you ask them like straight up, like is this, if this is going to be a problem then we're gonna have to move one of you who wants out because this is. This can't go on. Like, he has to have. He has to have the stones to say that to two superstars on his team that he's paying a boatload of money to, and he can't be afraid of an answer. He can't be afraid to get an answer from one of them, maybe even Soto, who might go, you know what? Yeah. You might have to move one of us. Okay, if that's what I got to do, then that's what I got to do. Why let it fester? Why let it.

E (30:31)

But I don't know if that's an option.

C (30:32)

No, no, no, no. Again, you have to understand, you can't let the players think that, like the. I can't trade either one of you because it's gonna be hard to do. No.

E (30:43)

You know, you have to at least present that.

C (30:45)

You're going to have to present it as if I'm willing to do it. You have to show them that you're not going to put up with this crap. Make them call you on it. But I don't. I don't know if he's going to do it. But you're right, Don. There's no one else that can. I don't know if Mendoza is that kind of guy or if they would take him seriously. He's been there a minute. Yes. A little bit of blood in the ground, but not nearly enough for him to have. Excuse me. Have the ability to challenge them with them thinking, I better take him seriously. Like, this isn't like a high school coach. It's like, I'll bench you or I'll. I'll make you run sprints. These guys are making a insane amount of money. They don't look at coaching. So all the calls we're going to get from people, like, I'm a high school coach, and this is what I would do, guys. God bless. This is not the same thing. This is apples and oranges. This is not even apples and oranges. This is. This is apples and mars. Like, they're completely different things, and one is much bigger than the other.

E (31:48)

It's.

C (31:49)

So this goes to the highest level. This is an executive order. That's what this has to be. And the only person that can issue that is the guy that owns the franchise. It is on Steve Cohen to nip this in the bud.

E (32:01)

Now, I think it. I think it likely should be a Steve Cohen conversation. I think the idea. This always runs up against, like, feeling like we're being old men on the lawn. Like, I don't want players to make money. I don't.

C (32:16)

I, I do with money.

B (32:17)

I'm all good.

C (32:18)

I'm giving.

E (32:18)

No, no, no. I'm all good with the players making a gazillion dollars. That's not my issue. But what you can't do as a sport is say, since our players make a gazillion dollars, no one can talk to them about anything. They, they, they, they can't be coached in any way. Not the privilege is right.

C (32:36)

They can't be threatened.

E (32:37)

The privilege is you get paid a ton of money for this sweet job. That does not mean you manage the team. That is not. If you want to do that, create your own baseball league and you are the boss of that league. But in this case, you are a very well paid employee who needs to learn from your supervisors this way any of us do at a job. And so it's kind of a shame that it can't be Mendoza. And this has to go probably all the way to the top. And this is where baseball sort of needs to figure itself out. Because a lot of times these young managers, they're getting, they're bringing in these young managers to be players, coaches. Part of that should be, yeah, you're a player's coach. Not just because you're friendly with everyone, but because you're cool enough and understand the vibe enough to know how to put your, you know, what on the table sometimes and say, like, guys, are we gonna man up or not? Cause if this is in fact what's going on, and it must be at this point, because it's the easiest thing to quell. I mean, Soto and Lindor could have put out an instagram post together 5 days ago ending this if they wanted to. They're letting it go and go and go. So something's really here. Something has to get done about it. The thing that is making me crazy, though, my algorithm is just filled with the fans being like, all right, we've seen enough from Lindor. Time to move on. Let's go. That is an insane thought process at this moment already, it would not make sense. So are you telling me, Don, is there a world in which they unloaded other players they otherwise would have kept cuz of Lindor because they thought Lindor had a problem with them, but really Lindor had the biggest problem with Soto, and they knew that problem wasn't going anywhere, so they said, we're going to move these other guys. Hope it works out with Soto. I don't know how. We're scared to talk to them. Let's just hope it works itself out with. Are they that incompetent? It can't be. It cannot be that.

B (34:23)

No, it can't be. And I think the reason that they did move, at least McClain McNeil, is because of the fact that you can't trade Lindor. And also, you shouldn't want to. I know he was bad defensively last year. I get that. And he can be frustrating. Always starts out slow. But do we forget about the grand slam home run against the Phillies? I mean, he's still one of the best shortstops in baseball. You know, these. It's somebody to build around. You got to work this.

E (34:53)

And before the fan base. I just want to remind everyone, before the fan base decided he was a villain in the last week and that it's definitely him. He's the problem. Get rid of him, by the way. Why? Why get rid of him. I wonder why that is. Could it be because Soto, at this moment, when this is happening, Soto's batting.346. He's batting under.200.

B (35:11)

So Lindor's not exactly.

E (35:13)

You forget about the fact that. But Lindor was a beloved. Met five seconds ago, Peter.

C (35:17)

I don't think it's that. I think it's. Lindor has been here longer, and we've kind of seen.

E (35:24)

Right, that's fair. We've seen that. We've seen the ceiling.

C (35:26)

Just. And he's a megastar, and we just paid him a ton of money, and maybe it's time we move on to him. Look, this is. This is so typical of every. I had a. I told you yesterday, Don.

B (35:38)

Right?

C (35:39)

I had a fan stop me in Penn Station and tell me why the Knicks need to move on from Jalen Brunson. Like, this is. This is always going to happen when you're just not happy in the moment. First thing fans do is get rid of them, get them out of here. To me, I. I'm only focusing on this relationship issue. Fans are gonna fan. They're gonna. They're gonna overreact and they take their sides. They're gonna do all the things that they do. In the end, all they care about is winning. So if these two hated each other and the Mets were 6, 0, nobody care. It would almost be a joke. It would be like a running joke. They hate each other so much, they're, you know, they're trying to outdo each other on the field, and it's actually benefiting the Mets. All right. The problem is, is that there's. There's some suggestion that it's affecting the play of the team. That's, as an owner, where I draw the line. You guys don't have to love each other. No, you don't have to be best friends. And you can have your stalls on opposite ends of the clubhouse, so you don't even have to look at each other. But when you step on that field, you're trying to win collectively. And if you're doing things or it's. There's something getting in the way of it, even if it's just the vibe between the two of you that's got the room divided and guys don't know how to walk around either one of you, that's affecting our team. That's when I step in and say, we got to fix.

B (36:56)

Well, and also, let's not forget, guys, it's easier to bash Lindor and want Lindor gone. If you're a Met fan, you never got to say that about Soto. A, he's the better player, and B, you love the fact that you got him. You stole them away from the Yankees. He's your guy. Oh, yeah, you hung on the rim. And what, a year later you're gonna say, I don't want this guy? So you kind of have to, at least this early on, throw your support to Juan Soto. The fact is, I think they're both wrong. What happened on opening day is all on Soto. He could have sucked it up and hugged the guy, didn't do it because he wants the world to know I don't like him.

C (37:34)

He was the first member. That was the thing. Lindor was the first one introduced because batting first, right? Then Soto comes out and decides, we're just going to do a gentleman handshake while everybody else gets hugs and daps. The whole world saw that.

B (37:47)

Well, and this is also the byproduct of, oh, you can have a suite, you have your family walk around, run around the stadium, and now you think you own the place. And now he wants.

E (37:56)

He.

B (37:57)

He's. He's a troublemaker with this. They. And they both. But they both got to suck it up. They both got to figure out a way to make this work, because they're not going anywhere, and you're not going to have another season thrown away. You had 183 games last year. Your general manager said, I don't think you guys were good enough. I'm going to change it in my own image. So if they have another lousy season, Mendoza's gone. All of a sudden, Stearns is on alert because that would have meant all of his moves backfired and we could be in big time trouble with his franchise. And if those guys do a bad job, they deserve to get fired. But it shouldn't be over this. It shouldn't be about this. This is stupid. This is ego garbage. This is look at me garbage that should not exist. You're well paid. You're both outstanding at what you do. You're on a team that's built to win. Go out and do it so you don't have lunch together. So you're on the opposite sides of the clubhouse. Who cares? Not asking you to love each other, just win.

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D (40:14)

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

E (40:18)

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

D (40:19)

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

E (40:27)

We don't. The thing is, we don't want to be great anymore. That.

B (40:31)

That.

E (40:31)

You know what. You know what the. You know what the. You know what everyone collectively wants. Guys. One, two, three.

C (40:37)

Let's be good.

E (40:39)

I just was telling Don that the Washington Wizards apologized for their bit yesterday where on April Fools they seemingly what it looked like was they took a fan and had him shoot a blindfolded shot for $10,000 from half court from Hascourt while he's blindfolded goes over the backboard Everyone cheers as if he won. They. They pull out the check. He's holding the check. They show the replay. He sees the replay of hitting the backboard. They take the check away. People, like, instead of being able to laugh at this being funny, they freaked out to the point that the Wizards had to apologize. And it was a complete bit. Even the contestant was a work. It was a plan. He worked for the Wizards. It was a complete deal just for entertainment, see? And they had to apologize.

C (41:28)

Wait, wait. If that was a skit.

B (41:30)

Yeah.

C (41:30)

What are we apologizing for?

E (41:32)

Because people were offended by it.

C (41:33)

Because. Oh, stop it. It's not your money. That wasn't your 10 grand. You didn't shoot the ball. It was a skit.

B (41:40)

It was the skit that was picked up, I think, by barstool.

E (41:43)

Went everywhere.

B (41:44)

Yeah, it went.

C (41:44)

Nobody knew. No.

B (41:46)

And everybody's. And everybody got hooked. Everybody bought it. It was one of the great April Fool's jokes of all time. Everybody bought it.

C (41:54)

Wait, wait, so when. When. When. When they do the. The silly bit where the guy gets down on his knee to propose and the girl runs away? Right? You know those. That they do. Yeah, that could be.

B (42:02)

That could.

E (42:02)

That could hurt someone, too. And they have to.

C (42:03)

She runs away and it's, you know, again, right now. Yeah.

E (42:06)

I'm watching the guy, by the way, even if that guy wasn't in on the bit and it was just April Fools.

C (42:12)

Oh, that'd be rough.

E (42:13)

No, no, I'd be fine with it, as long as they give him, like, some tickets and 500 bucks. Whatever.

B (42:17)

What they did in the video is they gave him an autographed jersey, which,

C (42:21)

by the way, I'd be fine with that. Well, it's the Wizards, though.

B (42:24)

But you could understand, especially in this climate, like, somebody thinks he won $10,000, and you take it from him, that. That could feel like, yeah, that's bad.

C (42:33)

But once you find out that it was a skit, what is your outrage?

E (42:37)

Well, but no, no.

C (42:38)

What are you upset about?

E (42:39)

But they probably didn't find out it was a skit until the Wizards apologized.

C (42:44)

Well, that's what the Wizards say then. They just simply say, yeah, hey, for those that didn't know it was April Fool's Day and it was a skit, the contestant was involved. We apologize to no one. You're welcome for the entertainment. That's a nice day.

E (42:57)

That is not the tone they decided to go with.

B (42:59)

Right. Yeah, that. But this was. This was the statement. We apologize for last night's April Fool's Joke that left many wondering if we had missed a fan. Misled a fan.

C (43:07)

Yeah.

B (43:08)

The skit involving our mascot and other members of our performance team was scripted and intended to celebrate the day. All participants were in on the joke. But we missed the mark. No, you hit the mark.

E (43:20)

You nailed it.

B (43:21)

Our fans are our priority, and we continue to be committed to providing a positive experience to all who attend our games. This is the problem where we are right now. Allen is right. All you had to do is say, it was a work. It was a skit. Nobody was hurt. So if you want to issue that statement so people aren't killing you for something that didn't actually happen. Because I can understand people being, in a way, like, this guy thought he won 10,000 again.

E (43:44)

I'm fine with it.

B (43:45)

And it was taken from him. That's fine. But you can also understand other people not.

E (43:48)

I would never write about it, but

B (43:49)

once you let the world know, I just fooled everybody. I fooled people in the building. I fooled people that follow Barstool, all of our fans. Because that's the problem. You can't do it on April Fool's Day anymore because everybody's got their radar up.

C (44:08)

Mm. Except for this one.

B (44:09)

And now they. They nail it. They turn around and ruin it by apologizing.

C (44:13)

Here's the problem. In Washington, they're called the Lizards, right? Because you can't put a W in front of anything there.

B (44:18)

No, it's their rare win.

C (44:20)

That. That was a Tim McMahon joke that I stole. But it was. It's a rare win for the Wizards. It was great.

E (44:26)

That was a rare dub epic, and

C (44:29)

they had to back off because some

B (44:31)

people didn't get the fun out of everything.

C (44:34)

You ruined it. All right. Congratulations, social media. Once again, you ruined it. And I know because I saw this morning there were some members of the media that were, of course, calling them out, and, you know, again, we clutch our pearls and start, you know, making signs and marching about something that you don't even know anything about.

B (44:55)

But that's. Let them write articles. Let them destroy you. And then you just turn around and go, no, the kid was in on the joke. We got you, sucker.

E (45:05)

But I get.

C (45:05)

But I get it.

E (45:06)

But I get it when. When things get really loud, people panic. And I get it. I've been there. I've said things, and people started getting loud, and I'm like, oh, I have to back off of this in some way.

C (45:16)

My friends in PR that I'm gonna tell him, you guys made a mistake.

B (45:18)

But.

E (45:19)

But. But if you Just wait it out. If you just wait it out, just wait it out.

B (45:23)

But once you say that he was in on. Now they're crying for a victim that doesn't exist anymore.

C (45:28)

There is no.

B (45:29)

So then it's over. There's no victim.

C (45:30)

No, no. You know who the victim is. Don't. It's you. You, the victim. Because you fell for it, right? There is no victim. That wasn't your 10 grand. It wasn't you. It wasn't about you. But like I said, today's society, it's. You see something happen and you go. And people start to get outrage. And you. How can I make this about Me? How could I make this about.

E (45:50)

I could be in on this.

C (45:50)

Literally, what happened.

B (45:51)

You gotta. You gotta wonder. Too Ridiculous. If the outrage is from social media, is it really outrageous?

C (45:58)

Mm.

B (45:58)

Because they're all bitter anyway. You know, I know back in the day, if you wrote letters to the editor, you had to take time. Good 30 minutes, spend a little your dough, right?

C (46:09)

Yeah.

B (46:10)

Stationary envelope.

E (46:12)

Guys. Stamps. Guys. Yesterday I. Listen, here was my experience with social media. Yesterday, I. There was a video moving around of a popular wrestler named Iyo sky doing.

B (46:24)

Oh, I saw this. Yeah.

E (46:25)

Doing the move called a suicide dive.

B (46:27)

I thought she died.

E (46:28)

You thought she died.

B (46:30)

First impact, I get it done on her head. She. You.

E (46:33)

A suicide dive. You. Basically, one person's outside the ring. The other person runs across the ring and dives, hands out like a. Like into a swimming pool between the second and third rope, right? With the goal of clearing their body between the two ropes parallel to the ground and hitting the person. She, like many others, I see it happen. Clipped the ropes on her way through. So as a result, instead of going straight, you plunge directly to the floor, head first. This move gets used all the time. So in my opinion, not only is it incredibly dangerous, but nobody even cares when you do it because they see it five times a night. When I saw this clip of IO nearly breaking her neck, I reposted it. And I admit my tone was a little bit. I just woken up, probably didn't craft it perfect. My tone was a little bit like, oh, I'm so smart. And I was basically said, this is why I tell wrestlers at Evolve and even some on the main roster to not bother with the suicide dive in 2026. No one cares for it, and it's really dangerous. All it took was a couple of wrestlers sort of like, pooh poohing. What? I said shut it.

C (47:47)

Peter was my favorite.

E (47:48)

Yeah, Bailey, I don't know yet if Bailey was joking or being serious. Because here's the thing. So Bailey says, shut it, Peter. Right? And then another one. Brody King said, don't tell me what to do, Pete. Right. Because the two wrestlers talk trash to me. The avalanche that then comes afterwards of everyone telling me I should have no. I have no right to even say a word. You know, if I haven't wrestled guys 5,000 matches, if I wasn't a wrestler in 1967, I can't tell you that our move is stupid and dangerous. Of course, I ended up reaching out to Brody King and being like, yo, dude, did you mean this? Because, you know, a whole avalanche of people. He was like, what? I was totally kidding. I didn't even know you're talking about. People can't read Toad on Twitter.

C (48:35)

No.

B (48:36)

So sarcasm. Lucky they can read.

E (48:38)

So if one person calls you out who's in a position of authority, guess what? All the. All the other Jabroni Pumpleducks, they're jumping down your throat all day.

C (48:47)

Hang on. All day Jabroni Pumpleducks.

E (48:50)

We haven't heard from him in a while. It's a while it's been.

C (48:53)

Oh, so that's a thing. Jabroni Pumpledge.

E (48:55)

I don't remember the. I don't know where it came from. That's Jabroni Pumpleduck.

B (48:59)

Yeah.

C (49:00)

Exist.

E (49:00)

Yeah, it does.

C (49:01)

Wow.

B (49:02)

2021.

E (49:03)

It's like, yo, Yo. Bum Chuck and his brother Jabroni Pumble Duck. What about Butch Yoyo? Butch Yoyo, great.

B (49:09)

Yo's their manager. Yeah, They're a tag team.

C (49:11)

That's an unbelievable tag team.

E (49:13)

Strange bull tag team, right?

C (49:15)

No question.

B (49:16)

Instead of walking around with, like, a tennis racket, he walks around, like, with it with a cricket bat. His name's Butch.

E (49:22)

Okay, Butch. Yo, Yo. Oh, wow. We got drops for everything. It's all here, Butch.

C (49:27)

Yo, yo.

D (49:29)

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