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Don Hahn
Time.
Alan Hahn
You know, maybe they can go pee on each other. That'd be great.
Wayne Randazzo
Han, there's a lot of women out there that want you.
Don Hahn
Ally and Rosenberg.
Peter Rosenberg
Give me the porn.
Alan Hahn
For God's sake. This isn't North Dakota. This is New York.
Don Hahn
This is Don, Han and Rosenberg.
Alan Hahn
The best threesome I've ever heard on
Don Hahn
ESPN New York and streaming live on
Gary Cohen
YouTube
Alan Hahn
300 one of the big city. Don, Han, Rosenberg with you. Full frontal today till seven.
Gary Cohen
I don't know.
Peter Rosenberg
Is it full frontal?
Alan Hahn
Oh, yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Seeing all of it, huh?
Alan Hahn
All of it. Oh, man, the Ty Butler is going to be on at seven o'. Clock.
Gary Cohen
He's got.
Peter Rosenberg
Does he have full frontal?
Alan Hahn
Yeah, he's got till nine. He's got a full vehicle. Because the Mets are playing right now and they're up 73 on the Tigers.
Gary Cohen
Break them up, Allen.
Alan Hahn
They're going for the sweep of the Tigers. Listen, it's the Tigers, I get it. And it's the American League team.
Peter Rosenberg
So.
Alan Hahn
No, you take whatever you can get. But the interesting thing is if they win this game, that sweep the series and they, the tigers had a 2 nothing lead in game one. 2 nothing leading game two. They were up 3 nothing in the game today. And yet the Mets finding away Ewing, his first major league home run. Ewing, yes, Also had an RBI single later on. So listen, he's the catalyst right now. Like right now, like he's the reason for the turnaround, right? They call him up and he's been great works. And they're winning and it doesn't matter. And we'll talk about it later on. And it certainly will be a large portion of the show tomorrow. With the Yankees kind of limping into the Subway Series having lost five of six and the Mets might be riding into the Subway Series winners of three straight games. So kind of how things can change in Major League Baseball. I mean, it's going to take a lot more than, you know, winning three in a row to get me, you know, to think that they've completely turned it around. But still, it's not nothing. So we'll keep an eye on that and we'll do a little bit more of it once that game is over. Soto not playing as he fouled a ball off of his ankle and he was supposed to get imaging. No, he's.
Gary Cohen
He's playing. He's fine.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Gary Cohen
RBI single and everything.
Alan Hahn
I didn't. We were in our meeting today. Well, he was going to get it looked at. He got X rays that were negative. But Alvarez obviously is out for what they're saying is like six to eight weeks, so that's a bit of a problem. So they caught the break on Soto after fouling the ball off of his ankle. But the Mets are doing the job and getting it done so far, and we'll. We'll talk about that a little bit later on. But, guys, it's no, it's really no joke how everything seems to be breaking the Knicks way. And if you're going to win a championship or at least go to the finals, you're going to need some breaks. You know, I remember when the Giants won their second Super Bowl. Let's be honest, I'm the biggest Giant fan going outside of Dave Rothenberg. They don't win the super bowl if they've got to go through New Orleans. They were not beating the New Orleans Saints, but San Francisco did. They go to Candlestick and they win the game, they go to the Super Bowl. The 2000 Mets, they weren't going to beat the Braves. They never beat the Braves in a big spot. But guess what? Cardinals beat the Braves. Mets breed the Cardinals, they go to the World Series in 2000. Like, sometimes you need a path to kind of help out. And the Cavaliers winning last night does two things to me, Alan. Number one, it could set up the Knicks having home court advantage in the conference final if they play Cleveland. And if Cleveland wraps it up tomorrow, the Knicks shave a couple of. Couple of days off their rest. Now they're playing on Sunday, which is a lot more manageable than having to wait till next Tuesday. Like, really. So everywhere you turn, the Knicks are catching breaks left and right and, oh, by the way, playing the best basketball outside Oklahoma City.
Gary Cohen
It's. It is setting up for them. And the more you watch this series, the more you just watch two teams that you feel like they're not playing at that level. Like, they're not playing at a level that you like. When you watch the Spurs, Minnesota, and when you watched okc, you're like, yeah, all right, that's it. Like, all three of them. But I'm Seeing nothing out of this series. And that's not. Again, this isn't orange and blue skies
Peter Rosenberg
and all that crap.
Gary Cohen
Like, I'm like, you have to at least me. I don't know how everybody else watches this stuff, but I watch it with a discerning eye because I'm going like, okay, which team would you rather play? Which team will give you trouble? What are you seeing from these two teams that you, you know, you want to think about what gives you concern? And I'm watching that game last night. All I can't, you know, different people that you text with throughout the night. And it just becomes the same thing. Like, the Cavs turn the ball over. They're terrible with the basketball. If you take Kate out of the equation, they have no answers and they're really small sometimes when they play. Jalen Duran is a mess mentally. Shot. They can't even use him. He didn't even play him in the end of the game or overtime. That's an All Star, your only other All Star. So, like, I'm watching, I'm waiting for that moment where you go, wow, this team's. They're playing at a different level. I don't see it. So you're going to now take one of these teams, send them to game one with one day off, and you're going to tell me that, that the Knicks shouldn't be a. A runaway favorite with the opportunity. And the most important thing, get that Game one in your pocket. Because you saw what the Sixers looked like. They came out of a Game seven in Boston. They won an epic game. They had one day to just, like, reset, pull up at the Garden, play a Game one, and you could. And after the game, they all, like, we, we barely were ready for this game. No one was ready to play that game. So everything you're saying, yes, things are setting up for the Knicks. It's breaking every way possible in the favor of the Knicks. And now all we wait to see is for them to take advantage of it.
Alan Hahn
It's right there. It really is right there. But it just seems like. And even maybe the spurs can knock off the Thunder.
Peter Rosenberg
That would be nice right now.
Gary Cohen
That's not a crazy take.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, no, it's certainly.
Alan Hahn
Well, we got to be careful because the reason we say that is because of how well they played him in the regular season. But. And we've also spent some time talking about how the regular season doesn't mean
Peter Rosenberg
well and how Detroit played the Knicks a certain way in the regular season. And we're not worried about that right now.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, so it does seem we're very convenient sometimes talking about, you know, the regular season. We kind of use it for our own purposes. But the fact is, I think there is a matchup situation, right, Allen? Where the Knicks just seem to match up better with the spurs than they might the Thunder. Not saying they can't beat the Thunder. Not saying they can't lose to the spurs, but there is a matchup situation. Beyond the fact that they beat him in. In the NBA cup and have been strong against him over the last couple of years, it still might just be a matchup thing where the Knicks just match up better with the spurs than they would the Thunder. And there's still a possibility that that could break their way, too.
Gary Cohen
Yeah, we'll see. Again, it's so much of this is because we're basing it off a team that I don't remember ever having this before in any playoffs where what they were in the regular season is not who they are now. You know, with the way they're playing offensively and all, I. It just makes it really hard to do any type of. Of guessing or matching up because you're just like. Well, that. Those games, you can't really base it on because they're running in much different offense.
Wayne Randazzo
So that.
Gary Cohen
That's what I think. It just leaves a lot of curiosity. There's a lot of mystery, I think, about the Knicks right now in what they've become and what they can be with this time off. What have they done with this time off? How much have they been able to put some stuff in offensively? I don't know, but. What A lot of mystery.
Alan Hahn
But there's mystery. But also, what would you put in? I mean, everything's working, right? I mean, well, you add to it. You could add to it, but I think. I know, listen, they're better than Atlanta, they're better than Philadelphia, but they also, like, destroyed those teams later on in the series. Embarrass them. Yeah, you know, so I don't know how much I'd really mess with it. Now. You can add some things in, different wrinkles to kind of surprise them, but I mean, the way they're playing right now, I don't know if I'm making too many changes.
Gary Cohen
No, no, not changes, but just again, adding layers, adding options, adding. Adding things. Whatever you can do.
Alan Hahn
Now, Soto d aging tonight or today, and he just home. So he's got home runs.
Gary Cohen
They just break. They just broke it open.
Alan Hahn
Right now it's 8, 3 yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Kidding me.
Gary Cohen
So, yeah, Ewing, Ewing son is doing really well. He had a big day. That's good to see.
Peter Rosenberg
I mean, listen, I'll say this. It's, it's since they made the move, which was obviously their attempt at doing something, it couldn't have worked out any better. So far, all you can do is take wins as they come. Guys, this has been a good few
Alan Hahn
days and this is one that they absolutely had to have because you've got your best pitcher on the mound and you got a chance to sweep. And even though the Yankees are struggling, you know, you wouldn't bat an eye of the Yankees took two out of three from the Mets. And now you're kind of. If you lost today and they were down three, nothing, you're taking one step forward and we're taking one step back. Right. Take two out of three from the Detroit and then lose two out of three to the Yankees. Where are you going? You just, you know, took six games off your schedule and didn't move. But now if you sweep today and maybe you go in with a little momentum with the Yankees aren't what the Yankees have lost five or six.
Gary Cohen
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
By the way, to dream now, not just, just humor me for a second. They, if they win today, they're up 8, 3. If they hold on, they'll be 18 and 25. If they swept the Yankees down and we come back next week and they're 21 and 25 after back to back sweeps. Are you admitting, fine, the season's not dead?
Alan Hahn
Well, it's not dead, but still a lot more work to do. All I've ever said is get to 500. So now if you're playing to where you're four games under.500. All right, get to work by next week, get to 500. Now we're believing in something. All of a sudden you lose two, three in a row and now you're back to seven back. You see what I'm saying? They dug themselves a hole at 10. Alan brought it up yesterday. It's math. You're 10 under, you're now going to have to play at some point 10 over just to get back to 500. And then if you want to be a playoff team now, you're going to have to play even better than that.
Peter Rosenberg
It's a lot.
Alan Hahn
So it is a lot. So you can get giddy out of the way. They're playing right now. You can't hand it back. You got to keep it going.
Gary Cohen
But what was the losing streak?
Alan Hahn
12? Yes.
Gary Cohen
You got to make that. It's very hard to make up 12.
Alan Hahn
Right. And now you can go and win 12 straight.
Gary Cohen
Well, but otherwise, what's the more realistic thing? 12 out of 15.
Alan Hahn
So. So then you think of the sample size. Now you got to double it to like 24 and play a certain. You see how quickly it can go. Like, they dug themselves such a ridiculous hole that it's going to take a lot of great baseball to get it done. Now they caught the break with Soto. It's nothing serious, but Alvarez is going to be out for a while. So, hey, baby steps, but we'll keep an eye on it. But Soto hitting a home run after he. And couldn't get any hits for like Arizona. He was like, he. He was an offer in Arizona and they lost two out of three. So listen, we'll keep an eye on that. Yankees have the day off and then subway Series.
Gary Cohen
Donnie, speaking of baby steps, you took some major steps this morning. I want to hear about this. We saw some video that was shared from those who were there. Your introduction was phenomenal. You had a walk up music, which I think is incredible. Tell us about it. Ramapo College graduation.
Alan Hahn
That's the commencement speech for Ramapo College. And I know Michael would always make fun of me graduating from Ramapo. It was tongue in cheek, but it's the reason that I'm here and working at the radio station, all that. And I graduated in 92. And when we graduated, we did it from the band shell, which was on the campus now it was at the Rock. And I sent you guys pictures and I could probably send them out on social media.
Gary Cohen
Tremendous.
Alan Hahn
The place was packed. The entire. The entire lower bowl of the Rock was filled with the exception of the sections that were behind the stage where we were. And there was also a smattering of people that had made it up to the 200 section. So if I had to guess, I'd say there were probably about 8000 people there. Biggest audience you ever played for a speech? Yes. Easily.
Gary Cohen
Nice.
Alan Hahn
Easily. And I gave my eight minutes. Might have been more. It's amazing. I wrote the speech out. They printed it for me in bold type so that I'd be able to read it. So I'm not squinting. I hate reading. I want to be able to riff, you know. And that's what I did. I kind of spoke from the heart. I had the speech in front of me and I knew where to begin with each paragraph and each topic. But I kind of went off on a tangent and people came up to me and said, they loved it. They loved the passion of it. There were a lot of fans there, too. I got a bunch of Ed Crane pools during the course. The diploma.
Gary Cohen
As you should.
Alan Hahn
It took like an hour and a half for everybody to get the diploma. And I don't know if you've ever done this, guys. It's disrespectful to leave. Everybody's gotta stay until the last diploma is handed out. So I'm on the stage, sitting there and as like over a thousand students got their diplomas and a few of them passed me by, got, you know, big fan, Ed Crane pool. Let's go, Yankees. With a smile on the face because they know I'm a Met fan. So I'm so proud of all the things that I've accomplished on and off the air. One of my biggest thrills is that I got to graduate college. I was the first member of my family to graduate college. And to be able to go back to that school, you know, 34 years later and be able to be considered big enough to give the commencement speech, I was thrilled. And it was just pretty cool. Amazing. So you might be able to find that online. I know Rampo's gonna be sending some clips. I'll send out some. Some photos. Had to wear, you know, the cap and gown. So that was.
Gary Cohen
That was Professor Emeritus.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Did you gain anything from this? Are you like a something now?
Alan Hahn
No, I.
Peter Rosenberg
Because you were already.
Alan Hahn
No, because they usually give you an honorary doctorate. But I already graduated from there and. But they did give me a Ramapo hockey jersey with Lagreca on the back. And 92 is the number for the year that I graduated.
Gary Cohen
That's true.
Alan Hahn
So that was. That was nice. They presented me with that.
Gary Cohen
Let's frame that, put it in the studio.
Alan Hahn
And it was. Yeah, just kind of, you know, dress up the walls a little bit. Right. But listen, I gave the message. The big part of it was is that people claim that the diploma is your key to success. And I said it's not. Because a key is something you put into a slot. You turn the key and the door opens. My 8 year old twins can do that. That's easy. The doors you need to kick down to live your dreams, they have to be kicked down. They need to be eviscerated. You gotta. And unfortunately, there's going to be more than one. So you got to be prepared to go out there and you got to grab it. And that diploma is only proof that you have the work ethic to get it done. Because it's hard to graduate from school, it's hard to graduate college. So the diploma signifies that I can work hard to achieve my goal. But that diploma alone is not going to get you anywhere unless you've got the attitude to kick those doors down, because nobody's gonna hang you anything. These jobs don't fall out of the sky, my friend. So there you go. Hopefully they got the message.
Peter Rosenberg
Do you feel good about it, though? You're happy with it all?
Alan Hahn
Yeah, but I. I don't want to say that it's like old school and I black out, but I'd like to, like, rewatch it to see exactly how everything came out, because you get in the zone when you start to, like. Like. I don't want to say I'm riffing. I know everything that I'm saying, but I do kind of get caught up in it a little bit. So hopefully it made sense. Everybody said it did.
Gary Cohen
Little rant at all in any moment. Like, just let one out.
Alan Hahn
Well, when I said kick down the door, well, the kick down the door part is you. You see me. I've got the podium, my. You see me stick my leg out and I kick it forward.
Gary Cohen
Kickboxing, that's great.
Alan Hahn
But at Ramapo, actually doing a read. I went to Ramapo. Look at me.
Gary Cohen
Yeah, now. And now you have their slogan, Ramapo College. Our degree means nothing.
Alan Hahn
I still. I'm still proud of my diploma, Bob. I get unnecessary grief.
Peter Rosenberg
No, that was pretty funny, though.
Alan Hahn
You had a deal.
Gary Cohen
You had a great moment, though. This is. This is. This is for you, not for anyone else, right? It's personal when you do something for your college, and it's not, you know, look, anybody can go to, you know, University of Indiana and do something there, right? Because it's a gigantic school. You can go to Notre Dame. You could go to NYU and do all this stuff and walk around and, you know, with your feathers out, right? But you do something at a school like yours, it hits different.
Alan Hahn
No, it does.
Gary Cohen
It's personal. And those people that are sitting there looking at you, they're looking at you because, like, the whole idea is they know I'm not at a major school, a gigantic school, but I could still get places. I could still go somewhere because look at that guy, right? And that's. That's why. It makes it more personal while your message is more personal. And so I love the fact that they. They asked you to do it, and nobody's surprised. Peter, I know you're not surprised. Dom brought all the passion and energy that you would Expect him to bring to something like this.
Alan Hahn
Well, I want to thank Andrea Busser, Lisa Ambrose, who did a great job helping me with my speech and also went to William Patterson College with Kevin Burkhart, the one and only.
Gary Cohen
Oh, wow.
Alan Hahn
I got to send you the picture of the two of them from back in the day. Yeah, pretty cool.
Peter Rosenberg
I'll say that in the picture.
Alan Hahn
President says Cindy Jebb in the picture. Amazing as well. Oh, sorry. Thank you.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't want to step on President Cindy Jebb. And the picture you showed Burkhart's really giving Alan Hahn.
Alan Hahn
He is. Sorry. I'm going to send it to you.
Wayne Randazzo
Alan.
Peter Rosenberg
He's giving Alan Hahn energy.
Alan Hahn
You know, kind of.
Gary Cohen
From college. Yeah, around college.
Alan Hahn
Burkhart. Here's the analogy. I give Burkhart to Alan Hahn is Eli to Peyton. And look just a little. Just a little off the original. Like they kind of look alike. Yeah, but Burkhart is kind of the poor man's version of Allen.
Peter Rosenberg
I think it's closer than Eli.
Gary Cohen
But Burkhart's having the Peyton career.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, I mean, you're having a pretty Peyton career too, Gary. You're like Gary Payton.
Gary Cohen
Yeah, maybe. Maybe you're like.
Alan Hahn
You're like.
Peter Rosenberg
How about Peyton Pritchard?
Gary Cohen
Yeah, that's pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good. Like backup. Solid.
Peter Rosenberg
No, he's solid.
Gary Cohen
Solid backup. Part of a championship six man type.
Alan Hahn
So I sent it. So tell me what you think.
Gary Cohen
Where is he in this? Oh, there he is.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, you could tell right away
Gary Cohen
his hair is better than mine was back in college.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, yeah, he.
Alan Hahn
He might.
Peter Rosenberg
Actually, you know what?
Gary Cohen
That's solid.
Peter Rosenberg
I've seen pictures of Han from closer to college. Burkhart might have been better at that point because Alan's gotten better. He's gotten older.
Alan Hahn
Better hair. Just better overall. Overall, because there was Rappug Allen. Yeah. Don't forget that.
Gary Cohen
No, now Rapug Allen is from way after college, late 20s, quit on life, you know. You know, couldn't. Like, you know when you just lose your complete. Any identity you thought you had is gone. And now you're just like washed up and you're in your 20s. Yeah, that was me. That was when I went Repug. And then I met Stephanie and she saved my life, but the college me was just emaciated. Yeah, I didn't. And the hair thing was out of control because it was the early 90s and you were trying not to be Vanilla Ice, but yet didn't matter. You look like Vanilla Ice and nothing you could do about it. I'LL send you guys a picture.
Alan Hahn
The Mets and the Yankees will start their Subway Series at Citi Field tomorrow. Game one's on Apple tv like you dream. Two is on Fox. Sunday's game will be local, so Michael K. And Gary Cohen are going to have to wait.
Peter Rosenberg
So it's a daytime vehicle to call
Alan Hahn
it a daytime vehicle, but the guy that's Saturday Fox.
Peter Rosenberg
No, no, no. Daytime, nighttime.
Alan Hahn
Oh, that's a good question because it
Peter Rosenberg
could be either with a Fox on a Saturday.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, but they got the 7:15 start.
Peter Rosenberg
All right.
Alan Hahn
But Wayne Randazzo, former Mets announcer, now working for the Angels, is going to have the call for Apple tv.
Gary Cohen
Talk about success stories too, right?
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Wayne started out, you know, doing pre and post for the Mets on the radio by play and now he's a big time star out in Anaheim and getting a chance to call games on Apple. So Wayne's going to join us coming up next. And then I want to get to the calls about, just get the general pulse of how you're feeling as a Knick fan. It might be the Cleveland Cavaliers. Not that you were afraid of the Pistons. No, but listen, getting blown out three times in the regular season, it's tough to ignore. You could explain away the regular season we did yesterday, but three times the Pistons were the 1 seed. They would have home court advantage. And all of a sudden going to the Cavaliers and you starting at home home court advantage in the conference finals. Think about that. The Cavs are one win away from handing the Knicks home court advantage in the third round of the playoffs. So it's starting to come together here.
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now. Fans heading to Citi Field for the Subway Series this weekend are encouraged to plan ahead and allow for additional travel time due to the potential Long Island Railroad disruption and anticipate heavy traffic around the ballpark for fans traveling from Long Island. The Mets have added additional Citi Field direct shuttle capacity from Roosevelt Field and Walt Whitman Shops along with a new shuttle route from the Manhasset LIR station serving the Port Washington line area. The 7 train will continue operating regular service to Mets Willets point from major transfer points throughout Manhattan and Queensland. Fans can visit mets.com transportation and the MLB Ballpark app for the latest travel updates and build a personalized travel plan before heading to Citi Field. I believe they're talking Saturday, right?
Gary Cohen
Yes.
Alan Hahn
So you might be able to get through on Friday, but I think the train disruption will definitely affect Saturday and Sunday. The game is on Apple TV on Friday and our friend Wayne Randazzo is going to have the call and he joins us here on Donjon Rosenberg how are you sir?
Wayne Randazzo
I am good. How are you guys?
Alan Hahn
We're great.
Peter Rosenberg
Wayne, Can I ask you something? How happy are you right now that this Mets team has been winning the
Alan Hahn
last couple of days?
Peter Rosenberg
Be honest, you didn't know what the hell you were to talk about this week. This team was pure hot garbage and now maybe there's a little something to chat about.
Wayne Randazzo
Yeah, we can sell some hope. You know, you got to believe and that's the Mets are feeding into that at least a little bit for a few days here. It's Nice to see them play well. I think everybody is interested in the Mets as a storyline and it's a lot more interesting with a team that's fighting back than team that's just going to succumb to a lost season and lose a lot of games. So, you know, I think the Mets still have some time obviously to make things up and it's nice to see them pushing in the right direction if it's only for a few days.
Alan Hahn
And Wayne, I'm sure as you were preparing, you had the struggling Mets against this monolith in the Bronx and it's just amazing how it can change in baseball, right? All of a sudden the Yankees lose five out of six. So, you know, as Peter was saying, the Mets get hot now. You know, the Yankees lose free. They, they're not hitting, they're the bullpen's kind of a mess. So it's amazing how much one week of Major League Baseball can just change everything.
Wayne Randazzo
Yeah, it is. And it's, it's, it's six months. I mean, not now. These guys aren't robots. They're not going to just do what they've done for the first month, for all six months or seven months for a team that's got a shot to win the World Series. So, you know, you deal with the ups and downs every, every team has to do it. I think fans, for whatever reason, as time has gone on here, you know, have just become less patient with any ups and downs of a baseball season. You know, it's just part of the deal you're going to have. If you're an 85 win team even you're still going to have parts of the season that are going to be bumpy. If you're a 95 win team, you, you have less of those, but it still might happen for a few weeks. So it's something that every team deals with. The Dodgers have played, you know, not very well for the last three or four weeks now. I mean, they're under.500 going back close to a month. So, you know, it happens and that's part of the deal here. And you know, it's just a matter of can you readjust and shake yourself out of it. And certainly the Yankees have enough talent, and maybe the Mets do too, to be able to swing their way through this and get back to, you know, winning 6 out of 8, 8 out of 10 and, and starting to pile up victories again.
Gary Cohen
Wayne, as somebody that spent time in this market and then obviously watching things nationally, you also being with the Angels is How, how much of what you just said, though, is northeast driven or even just big market New York driven when it comes to that? We're in May, and it's always the sky is falling because, like Brandon Nimmo talked about in his first experience away from New York, in his whole career being in Texas, how much more laid back things are. And there just seems to be less of that daily pressure game to game, versus what he experienced with the Mets and what we all experience here in New York, which is from, you know, riding high in April and shot down in May, as the song goes.
Wayne Randazzo
Yeah, I think it's just less in your face in a. In a place like Texas. You know, there you don't have the kind of media throng that you do in New York when you show up for a home game. Even in a place like that, you've got the local announcers who are not really going to rock the boat. You are going to be surrounded by, at best, two or three. Even a big market like Dallas, two or three beat reporters that follow the team pretty regularly. And they're not really all that interested in rocking the boat either, because, you know, they. They have to maintain a certain level of intimacy with the people around them, and they don't want to kind of burn those bridges, especially when it's really just them or one or two guys that are in and out. So there's not just a lot of traveling party that follows those teams. It's not lack of interest or a lack of desire from the fans, though. I think, you know, the Reds just went from first to last in the National League Central, and I don't think the atmosphere around the Reds fans is, oh, well, get them next time. I think they're upset because that this team fell like a rock over the course of a week and a half, but it just doesn't have the same temperature with the media and with the writers and with sports talk radio as it does in the Northeast. In places like New York and Philly and Boston, it just. It just hits differently in those spots. So I think the players do feel a little more relaxed, and, you know, maybe that's a good thing for them, or maybe it's not. You know, maybe some guys need that to really feel like they need to go out there and play under that pressure. You know, I think ultimately, as humans, you don't want that. You know, you. You kind of feel like in less pressure environments, you can. You feel like more like yourself, and you can just kind of do your business without having to Answer much for there's more accountability I think overall in the Northeast than in the other places. But I still think the fans feel the same way after a seven game losing streak in Texas or in Anaheim or anywhere as they do in New York.
Alan Hahn
You know, talking to Wayne Randazzo, he's going to have the call on Apple TV tomorrow. Mets and Yankees Subway Series Part 1 from Citi Field. You know, the American League has really struggled. There's been times where it's just like two or three teams above.500. It appears the National League is better because they've got more teams above.500. But you just mentioned the Dodgers have gone through their struggles a bit here. But still overall, have you been surprised that as deep into May as we've gotten here that the American League, most of the teams haven't found a way to gain any traction yet?
Wayne Randazzo
Yeah, I think some of there's a lot of interleague early on and the National League kind of dominated the interleague games which I think has skewed the records to show the National League has played better. You know, I don't the American League lacked any sort of dominance last year either. I think that's what opened the door for the Blue Jays and the Mariners and even Cleveland and Detroit to have really good seasons and push for a World Series. But overall, outside of the Dodgers, you know who there is no kind of super team. I think Atlanta's been a lot healthier this year and they're playing really well. A lot of their guys that didn't hit much last year are hitting this year and they look like a formidable World series contender. They're 30 and 13. The Cubs have had a couple of 10 game winning streaks and that has pushed them to the top of their division. Yeah, the Dodgers have kind of stumbled. The Padres are kind of a weird team, whereas they're certainly not crushing anybody. But they've won a lot of games with some comebacks and a really good bullpen. So, you know, it's still, I think kind of up in the air which, which teams are going to showcase themselves in the American League. And I don't know if any will. I mean Cal Raleigh just went on the il Toronto has not hit a stride yet. You know, I think it might just look like this for the, for the entirety of the season in the American League that just a bunch of mediocre teams trying to fight for those six playoff spots. And if the Yankees are better than mediocre, then they'll look like the queen of the land. In that league, and it very well could carry them all the way to the World Series this year. That doesn't mean it's a great Yankee team, but it certainly seems like it's better than the others in the American League, which is really all you need.
Gary Cohen
And it's what they decided to do is the quote, unquote, run it back. That became a big part of the phrasing during the winter months and into the season. But something that does feel different about them is the depth of their starting pitching. Now we'll, we'll get word on Max Freed and find out what exactly is going on with him that could affect that rotation. But with the name that they have with Garrett Cole coming back, Freed for now. Rodin just got back. We'll see him on Saturday. But I add to the, to, to this player who'll be starting your game tomorrow, which is Cam Schlitler and what he's become. Can you compare him among the young pitchers around baseball right now and where, where he should reside in, in those conversations with some of the top young pitchers in the league?
Wayne Randazzo
Well, I think he's shown that he should be right there. I mean, it's not that small of a sample size anymore. I mean, it's 25 major league starts if you count the two in the postseason. And he was really good in those. I mean, went deep into those games, dominated the Boston Red Sox in the wild card series. And you know, I think he's shown that his, what he's doing and what is kind of a Corbin Burns style pitch mix where it's just mostly fastballs in various spots and in various locations with the various pitch types. I mean, the four seamer and the two seamer tends to be a hard combination in and of itself. And now he's got this cutter that has become probably his best pitch. And you think about Corbin Burns as a comp for what Schlitler has done so far this season, especially with that cutter being a bit more in his repertoire. So, you know, there's every reason to think that he's going to continue to pitch at a high level. And the stuff speaks for itself. I mean, this isn't a guy who's throwing 92 and getting by. I mean, he's dominating with some, some gnarly fastballs. And at the top of the zone is where he's been living with these. And you know, the strikeouts are there, the walks have, have lessened quite a bit from where they were last year. And you know, you think about a long season again but if this Guy could pitch 175, 200 innings at this level, you know, the Yankees have found another gem to go with a returning Garrett Cole. And if Max Freed's feeling like himself as they go along here and Carlos Rodin shows up to be what they thought he should be and what he's been for some of the time at the Yankees, then, yeah, it's a really good rotation.
Alan Hahn
Wayne, I've always been curious for people that are in the situation that you're in. You've got a national broadcast on Friday, but you got to assume the majority of people watching are Mets and Yankee fans. So how do you balance the. I want to let the other audience know what's going on in Yankee land and Met land, but then also not overdo it for the majority of the fans who already know the stuff that you're throwing out. So how do you handle that balance?
Wayne Randazzo
Yeah, I think it's just, it's just balancing, you know, overarching for the, for the national audience and more casual viewers. I think, too, with Apple TV especially, you're probably getting. It's probably 50, 50 where it's, it's your half the audience is going to be the diehards and half is kind of an Apple TV audience that's tuning into a game. And this one especially will get. Will get a higher clip than normal because it's, it's the two New York teams. So, you know, I do kind of lean toward more of a generalization and, and frankly, with, you know, the way things are with the pitch timer and everything, you don't have much more time than that anyway. You know, if you want to introduce players to a global audience, you know, it's kind of just one or two sentences to caption who they are and what they've been doing. And then you kind of launch into, you know, the play is going to happen. You know, the ball is going to be put in play and you move on. So there's not that much time over the course of a game when you do one game a week like this to really get into the minutia of what's happening, you know, in deep detail, because it's, it's just, it's one game, it's a big audience, it's a casual audience in some ways. So you just want to kind of hit the, hit the headlines and then you're, you're moving on. And if it's a good game, well, then you're focused on that. Anyway, toward the second half of the game, so there's not a lot of room to be digging deep into things. But, you know, if there. If it does call for it, we can do it. And I think that, you know, with these two teams, it certainly won't miss with the audience that, you know, understand more deeply what's happening with these players of late and what they've been doing this season.
Gary Cohen
All right, so I'm not a Mets fan, but I was a fan of Rain Delay Theater, and I'm wondering if there's any way possible that you and Gelbsy can just find a way to keep this thing going. I know you're on opposite sides of the coast of the country now. When you guys get together, it. It's. It's hilarious. They're. The reuniting and the different things you guys do. But just tell me about that relationship that you guys had and where it is today and, you know, just. Just how special that thing is.
Wayne Randazzo
It really was born of the fact that we both were brand new to broadcasts on the TV and radio sides that had all these guys locked in forever. You know, Gary, Keith and Ron were already well established. Burkhardt had just left to be a big shot, you know, for Fox. And here was Steve kind of trying to fill enormous shoes. And I came in on the radio side. You know, Ed Coleman had had that job forever, and Howie and Josh Lewin had been certainly well established, not only as a tandem, but as longtime major league announcers, too. So Steve and I kind of just clutched to each other. It was just born of the fact that we were both about the same age, had similar sports experiences growing up, and just kind of found each other to be almost like a long lost twin. So we sat together on buses and plane rides and the dinners, and we just kind of became our own entity alongside of these broadcasting titans that we've been kind of thrust into the picture with. So it was great to have Steve. I mean, it felt like a double play combination, you know, thinking of what the other one's thinking without having to say it. As time went on and we were doing interviews together, and it just kind of very naturally and organically blossomed into a great friendship, but something that we could also put out to Mets fans and younger Mets fans that were, you know, maybe looking up to different announcers that weren't the same guys that their dads or grandfathers had heard for all these years. You know, kind of a new audience. And, you know, Mets fans took to that and still admire Steve greatly now. And I still get a lot of feedback from Mets fans. Even though it's my fourth year now, gone from, from the team. So, you know, social media helped and capture that and we know we did a tick tock last week, which was my first TikTok. But Steve's, you know, Steve's always looking to reach new audiences and kind of stay with the times. So, you know, we'll always have that love for each other and you know, fortunately get to see each other at least a few times a year. Doing this.
Alan Hahn
Heidi Watney and Dontre Willis will have the call with Wayne Randazzo on Apple TV tomorrow. Met to the Yankees. Wayne, thanks a lot, man. It's great to catch up.
Wayne Randazzo
All right, thank you.
Alan Hahn
All right. Wayne Randazzo. Kind of interesting, right? Like Apple TV is trying to get the casual fan.
Peter Rosenberg
Sure.
Alan Hahn
You know, and that's not something the network television like Fox isn't going to worry about the casual fan.
Peter Rosenberg
Right.
Alan Hahn
They know they got Mets Yankee fans and they've been doing it for 25 years. So they know anybody watching is probably a baseball fan, you know. But Apple TV is trying to find that coveted casual, which I, I don't know, guys. I just don't know if that's obtainable to me.
Peter Rosenberg
Not until the play.
Alan Hahn
That's the elusive playoff.
Peter Rosenberg
Maybe, listen, playoffs maybe when Aaron Judge or Shohei Ohtani is playing. Besides that, it's tough.
Alan Hahn
But that's what Netflix was trying to do on opening day. Right. Giants, Yankees. Let's try to, let's try to get the casuals interested and excited about the game. I just think in the regular season, guys, Mets, Yankees might be different because there's such big fan bases, especially the New York Yankees, that you might get some casuals just want to see Judge and Soto. If you sell it, if you market it right, you might be able to get that. But don't you feel like, Alan, especially you as a consistent TV guy, that especially a sport like baseball going after the casuals to me is like, that's the, that's the ghost, man. I just don't know if it's doable.
Gary Cohen
It's easier if you are on regular TV and you're trying to get somebody who's flipping around the channels. It's a lot harder when you're doing it on a streaming service because you have to have a reason to be there. Right?
Alan Hahn
Right.
Gary Cohen
Like, like that's the streaming services. You have a reason to go there. You don't often go to a streaming service and just go, I wonder what's on, you know, like That's. It's live programing on a streaming service. So it does make it. I feel, a little more challenging in that direction. But, you know, look, they. They feel like this is the way to go. And I think all the streaming services are trying to do something unique to the typical broadcast. That's what they're trying to do is change the way games are seen and viewed, not just by watching on a streaming service, but also watching it with a different. Instead of it just being a straight, traditional sports broadcast. And, you know, we'll see if it works, and maybe in time it does, but it is. It's definitely a different approach because ghost is the best way to describe it. Don. What you're chasing there is definitely a ghost.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. It just feels at least down. Maybe. Maybe it's making inroads. Just hoping that eventually that can be a lot more obtainable. 1-800-919-3776, Mets win. They bring out the brooms against the Tigers. So starting to get a little bit better.
Don Hahn
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Peter Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
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Alan Hahn
All right, listen, you know, I've been as on down on the Mets as anybody, and rightly so. But now. Now, let's see. No, no, no, no. Now, let's see.
Gary Cohen
Right?
Alan Hahn
It's not. Oh, they've turned around. See, I told you it's too early. Stop it. Okay? Stop it. They won three in a row, and they did have a five and four road trip. So. So what is that? They're the eight and four. Four in their last 12 games. That's not nothing. You want eight of your last 12.
Peter Rosenberg
That's not 12.
Alan Hahn
It's not enough. But it shows you. But Donna started to gain traction.
Gary Cohen
If you get two out of three somehow this weekend. Okay, like, come on.
Alan Hahn
So two out of three would then get us.
Gary Cohen
That's 10 out of 15.
Alan Hahn
10 out of 15 again. Nice. That's a nice run. And that. And you know what that is? That's a little bit of consistency. It's a little start of a conversation. Enough of a sample. Hey. Won 10 of 15 games.
Gary Cohen
10 of 15 going in. The kid stretch is solid.
Alan Hahn
The kid's raking right. Like they called him up. And he has contributed today, in case you missed it. Back in the lineup, batted eighth, we're talking about AJ Ewing. Two for four, hit his first major league home run, and he had a run Scored. And he adds some speed and he adds a little bit of something to that room. Is it just coincidental? Would they have swept the Tigers anyway? Alan? I don't know. But they did something and it seemed to work and the alliance continue to keep it going, right?
Gary Cohen
And so, you know, what do I know when I say 21 year old's not going to walk in a room and change things? Maybe he did.
Alan Hahn
Well, maybe find out. It's just, here's the thing with baseball, a little adrenaline, right? A little something to kind of get you through, wake some people up and we'll see.
Gary Cohen
Right?
Alan Hahn
One thing, I don't know how much you watch the game, so I know you had a kind of a difficult late morning, early afternoon here with the transit and everything.
Gary Cohen
Dude, that, that whole mess, smoking in the train and the whole thing, it's crazy.
Alan Hahn
The Detroit Tigers are one of the original major league baseball franchises, okay, that have a classic uniform. If you watch the Mets and Tigers today, you would have thought the Mets were playing the Orioles.
Gary Cohen
Oh, what they wear today?
Alan Hahn
No, they just wore black and orange and like, what are we doing? What are we doing? You're the Tigers, but selling jerseys that look like somebody else. I mean, I turn on the game, you would think they're playing Baltimore. Tell me I'm wrong. You, you grew up around there. It looked like they were playing you Orioles today.
Peter Rosenberg
We've been saying this for a while, guys, so there's some. There are people trying too hard in this sport. There's just too many different things. The one thing it always has going for it is these beautiful, iconic known uniforms that everyone can get behind.
Alan Hahn
Please stop. The whole idea of a uniform, by definition to be uniform is to be uniform that I know who you are by looking at the uniform. You dress like a nurse. That's a nurse. There's a doctor that's, you know, construction worker. He's dressed like.
Gary Cohen
Oh, he just named the Village People.
Alan Hahn
Nice. Yeah, I did. I just. Yeah, just. We just need a Native American.
Peter Rosenberg
You shouldn't run up to a police officer and go, excuse me, sir, I need help. And they go, well, sorry, I'm a firefighter.
Alan Hahn
That's what I'm saying. I love the, the NYPD's got new uniforms. They look just like firemen. Great job. The Detroit Tigers, great road uniforms. You look like the Orioles. What are we doing? I swear to God, we've almost come full circle where now we're not even trying in making an effort. The effort is not trying. Oh, nobody took a look at it. Wait a minute. That's a nice idea. And the uniforms. Pretty well put together. But did anybody look and see it looks like another baseball team? Our own fans aren't going to know that our team's playing because we're in Oriole camouflage
Gary Cohen
trying to find it.
Peter Rosenberg
Remember, Don, though, used to say we were at war. Now maybe we're at war too much.
Alan Hahn
Is that what it is?
Peter Rosenberg
No one can concentrate on getting this
Gary Cohen
right, or what is it good for?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, we're focused on the wrong things. We need to get our baseball in order.
Alan Hahn
That's right. Well, we do have a war going on, and aliens now are popping up. So maybe. Maybe we do have focus other places. Like, maybe the Detroit Tigers are like, why are we worried about our uniforms? We're about to be invaded. I don't even know. Is it Matt?
Peter Rosenberg
I don't know about the aliens.
Gary Cohen
We have invaded.
Alan Hahn
We have. Well, they've been showing, like. All you see is that the government is telling us that they found UFOs, and I haven't seen this. You know what? You're better off. All right? You're better off because it's. I just.
Peter Rosenberg
Listen, the only thing I. The only thing I want to know about, that I learn about and that I care about is the relationship of Wayne Randazzo and Steve Gel.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
I'll tell you what.
Alan Hahn
I know a lot about it. You opened up a.
Peter Rosenberg
You didn't know Alan, when you threw that out there. You didn't know we were doing a full Pandora's box. You didn't know you were doing a biography. Randazzo in kelves.
Gary Cohen
I was really just hoping he'd say something about the podcast.
Alan Hahn
You know, he gave me a lot more.
Peter Rosenberg
So then. Then when me and Steve started college.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
We started his roommates.
Gary Cohen
And it does show you the very close. And if we had more time, I would have asked him how he felt about Keith and Gelbsy both sharing that lady in the Tramp moment with the glizzy.
Peter Rosenberg
I did see the glizzy. The glizzy was a moment.
Gary Cohen
How jealous were you? A, I don't know. I. I don't know Wayne well enough to make a joke like that. B. I saw. We were definitely out of time. Yes. Catching these Tigers uniforms. They're giving Orioles.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Gary Cohen
Of all the organizations, no offense, that you would not want.
Peter Rosenberg
No.
Alan Hahn
What.
Gary Cohen
You're not really trying to imitate that.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, you know what I mean, if you're the Tigers, you might as well.
Alan Hahn
Who are.
Peter Rosenberg
Who are they? Who are they? I don't see Alan Trammel walking through that line.
Alan Hahn
We're talking about the six tigers. 84.
Peter Rosenberg
That's what I'm saying. While and the and the Orioles were what, right before? So they're all in the same conversation.
Alan Hahn
I could probably name more 84 tigers than current Tigers, but at least they just watched them for three days.
Peter Rosenberg
At least.
Gary Cohen
At least the Tigers have been around for 100 years.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't want to know how the
Gary Cohen
sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good.
Don Hahn
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ESPN New York | May 14, 2026
The trio—Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg—deliver a lively hour covering the Mets’ recent surge, the Yankees’ issues heading into the Subway Series, the Knicks’ playoff luck, and Alan’s recent commencement address at Ramapo College. Special guest Wayne Randazzo (Angels broadcaster, former Mets radio voice) shares insights on the New York baseball market, how broadcasters approach national games for local fan bases, and his enduring friendship with Steve Gelbs. The banter is high-energy, quick-witted, and filled with classic New York sports bravado.
Timestamps: 01:10 – 02:39, 09:11 – 11:57, 25:17 – 27:33
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Wayne Randazzo segment | 27:33 – 30:22
Timestamps: 34:54 – 41:09
Timestamps: 11:57 – 18:16
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Summary for the Uninitiated:
This episode captures the current mood around New York baseball—hopeful but skeptical for the Mets, anxious for the Yankees, and unexpectedly bullish for the Knicks. It features heartfelt (and humorous) moments, especially involving Alan’s personal milestone. Wayne Randazzo’s guest spot offers perspective on the unique heat of the NYC sports market and the evolving challenges of telling baseball stories in a digital world, all while keeping the banter and in-jokes rolling.