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Don, you're a filth bag.
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You're a sex star filth bag. Han, the guy's gonna be 41 flicking it.
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And Rosenberg, go look at Redfer in that movie right now.
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You'll want to hook up with him. This isn't North Dakota, this is New York.
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This is Don Hahn and Rosenberg.
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Ah, straight up. 3:00 clock in the greatest city in the world. Okay, little Han Solo with you today for four hours. Just you. And John is on vacation this week, Peter. He's, he'll be on his way back to New York and he'll be with us tomorrow and the rest of the week. So don't you worry. Everybody out there. So it's just us together. And isn't that the way we like it? Because we used to do it this way, right, Pusick, you, me and everybody else. Ty Butler used to be part of that party at night and we always had fun. And this was always the time of year where we'd play a little Ask Allen. And that's always part of it. So 1-800-919-3776 if you want to get yourself right in line and get ready to go today. Well, some fun guests today. You never know who's going to pop in, so you want to stay tuned for that. But I want to, I want to begin first, just tell you a quick story. So last week, you know Bruce Beck, of course, from NBC New York. He does a sports broadcasting camp. He's actually been doing it for like two decades. He's one of the best people to know in New York sports. For 30 years, he's been the standard for sports anchors. Super Bowls, World Series, Stanley Cup Finals, NBA Finals, the marathon, the US Open in tennis, the US Open in golf, of course, the Olympics all the time. And since 2002, he's been running the sports broadcasting camp for kids and since 2017 has been Iona College. So he, he, he asked me to be part of it this year and I was glad to be able to do it. And the deal for me was just to show up and be interviewed by some of the kids in the camp who are learning how to do on camera interviews, which, by the way, everybody is not as easy as it looks. And so the kids had to do research on me as if I was the subject. Normally I'm the one asking the questions. And of course you would expect most of the questions were Nicks related. But some dove into my college career, such as one that asked me if I was devastated by my career ending injury that I suffered back then. Devastated, you think? Of course I was. But after it was great and it was a lot of fun and again, I love Bruce. But afterwards I got in the car heading to the show last week, and so I'm in the car and of course reflecting on everything and made me think about college. And a funny story came to mind that I thought you'd, you'd enjoy. I was like, college went by so fast, it was so quick. And I was like a late addition at LIU Post. I became a starter early on, which kind of surprised everybody, including myself. And I became like a key piece in the rotation of what was a really good team. Then pop knee blew up and that was it. Tried to come back, but there was no coming back. And back then when you had an ACL like I did, where the whole thing just blew up and everything else got messed up, they took you out back and shot you. I mean, Bernard King got to the all star game after making his comeback, but he was an NBA player with the best doctors in the world. I didn't quite have that at the Division 2 basketball level. But anyway, it made me think of like a funny story from that season when I had a chance to, to watch game film one time. And yeah, when I say game film, I mean, you know, on the vcr, you know, you get the cassette, you pop it in and you watch it. And I had a chance to watch myself in a game because my coach was like, just watch yourself and tell me what you think. And I was alright. And what I saw was too slow, too skinny, a little lost, sometimes a little erratic. And after watching the game, when you watch yourself, it's amazing. Even when you do tv, it's amazing that you see all the flaws. So I finished watching that game. I was like, damn, all time low confidence in myself. And when I was at that age, in my, you know, 19, 20 years old, I was, I had irrational confidence in myself. Like I thought I was the ish man. Like I'd never Thought negative about the way I played until I watched that game film. And so the next day I went to practice and I saw Coach. He said, did you watch the film? I go, yeah. And, and he, and he said, what'd you see? I said, well, I saw, I saw. I got boxed out easy. I got to get in the gym. I look, I really didn't belong out there. And I said, look, my ego after watching that is shot. So I need you to pump my tires, Coach, like, give me something positive. And God bless him, Coach Tom Galizi, rest his soul, he said to me, well, you got a good eye for talent evaluation. I was like, damn, that's the best you can do? So that and the referee story, which I think I've told a million times, is kind of what led me here. But it's just funny how the broken road takes you along the way in your life. And that's sort of where it led me. So somehow, some way, I still ended up in basketball. The game loved me back. And this past year for me was definitely a year, the greatest of my professional career. There's no question about that. And you know what? Today is, everybody? One month ago today, where were you? Where were you when Tyler Murray said those words? Right? When, when, when Mike Breen said those words? The Knicks are NBA champions. A month ago. Can you believe it's been a month since game five? It has been a month. Brunson went for 45, if you don't recall. That's an NBA Finals record for the Knicks, by the way. Willis Reed, because I know there's, you know, the Richard of Manhattan's out there that are going to ask me. 38 he had against the Lakers, 1970, game three, look it up. But 45 by Brunson, 15 in the fourth quarter. 15 and eight minutes in the fourth quarter of the NBA Finals. And then he had to get a procedure on his wrist, the shooting hand. Despite doing all that, you remember, the knicks were down seven going into that fourth quarter. Remember they were down 15 in that third quarter. That's what this team's all about. That's what you love about this team. So as we celebrate this and we look at a team that, you know, has kind of run it back, other than Mitchell Robinson, which is a huge piece, but still 90% of the roster is intact. The Knicks ended a 53 year championship drought for the franchise. But the more I think about like a month ago, we were celebrating a championship in New York. It wasn't just a Knicks championship, it was of the four major sports. I know we've had the liberty, we've had NYC fc, but I'm talking about the four major sports. The traditional major sport. You haven't seen a title in 15 years. That's for New York guys. That's a long time to go without a title when you have two of everything. Three hockey teams, really. And it's of course the conversations we've had over the years. Those of us who had followed me through all the different shows I've done when I've been on at night. And I loved having this conversation because at the time the Knicks were in that of the droughts and who's going to finally break it and who's going to put an end to this 15 year drought. The Yankees were always the team that took the lead, didn't they? The Yankees were the team that we'd always say you always put the Yankees one or two because every year they're playing for a title because they have that standard. So the answer should be the Yankees, shouldn't it? But are they as real? Are they as close as we think? I mean, honestly, if the Knicks either next year or the year after, which I think this window still has about two years, maybe three left in it, if they don't get another one. Who else do you think is close? Because are the Yankees as close as you think they are now that we're at the All Star break in Major League Baseball? Yeah, they had a good finish, a very strong finish against the Nationals this weekend. Some come from behind wins. Jazz Chisholm rallying the troops the way he did with his speech to everyone. But again, the American League is laid out for this team. The road is paved in gold. If they want it. I think they got to get healthy, of course. Most obvious thing to say. But they also have some holes to fill, which is up to Brian Cashman to do at the trade deadline, which is coming up at the beginning of August. But does that always work? And do we trust the Yankees on who they are and how they're built and their style of play? That they're a team that can be the one that gets that next title, that can turn New York back into a title town, which we have not been able to say in a long time. 15 years, guys. Long time before Giants Super Bowl 2011, that was the last one. And then giants Super Bowl 2007, Yankees World Series 2009. There was your pocket where you at least had a couple of titles. But then before that, what are we talking about? You got to go back to the 90s, giant, Super Bowl, Ranger, Stanley Cup, Yankees, World Series, you know, then you had a little bit of a run from 86 to 96. At least you had some titles in there. But for this right now, who would you put next up and why? And do you really trust the Yankees? Because I'm not sure that I do. I'm also wondering if it isn't the Yankees, do you trust who? The Giants. I mean, they, I know Dave Rothenberg's got them, right? 65 or sooner. I don't know if I'm seeing that yet. Harbaugh gives you reason to believe. But the roster, still the roster, right? Coaching, when you take you so far, you still have that talent. Do they have enough? Do they have the quarterback? Dan Graziano is going to join us later in the show and we're going to get into some Giants with him because I got a lot of questions about them. But that's the part that gets me all the time, is you look at franchises and anytime you bring them up, you always say, I trust them because they have a championship background. They've done it before. But when it's been 15 years, how can you trust anybody? Because 15 years means that no one has shown you the ability to play at a championship level. And the Yankees at least are that one team that has done that. They got to the World Series a couple of years ago. They're always in the playoffs, perennial winning record. That's why you can trust them when it comes to having a chance. But that doesn't mean they can do it because they haven't won since 2009. And when they got to the World Series finally two years ago, what did it look like? Were they in the same class as the Dodgers? Were they in the same class as the Blue Jays last year? Every year it always seems like somebody else can outclass them. And oh, by the way, Boston Red Sox won nine in a row. Feeling good about themselves. Why do I feel like they're gonna be a pain in the ass before all else is said and done? They always seem to be so. We shall see. 800 now. 193776. I got a lot of calls to get to here because I again, I want to talk with you about this. We'll get into Home Run Derby tonight. We'll get into All Star for Major League Baseball. And Home Run Derby should be fun tonight. But there are some changes. So we certainly will talk about that. But right now I'm just curious and I'm going to go around the room. Anthony, Jacob, you guys sports fans, if I was going to put you on the spot right now, Knicks just ended the drought. 15 years is up. We finally have a big four championship team here in New York. If I was going to tell you who's going to win the next one now, it can't be the Knicks because they've already won. So even if they repeated it doesn't really count. You need another franchise now to kind of raise their level and join that. Who would that team be in your mind, Anthony?
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I would still say, like you said, Alan, it's probably the Yankees, but I
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don't know, are you saying that with confidence?
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I'm saying it with confidence because I don't have much confidence in the rest of the group in New York.
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Exactly.
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I would say one of the hockey teams is more likely after that than maybe the football teams, which is a lot pretty crazy to think about. And the Rangers might be the third most likely of those three.
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And they're. And so. And again, none of them made the playoffs last year.
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Exactly. So it's, it's by default the Yankees. But as you say, we could say that. But just because you're in second doesn't mean you're close.
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No.
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And we have to wonder based on the way this team is played and how good the National League is, how close this team is. I would still say Yankees, but I don't, I don't know how confident I would be in that.
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I worry that we might be waiting longer than anyone wants to believe. Jake.
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I think it's the Yankees, but like second is not that far behind in terms of like who I choose because I don't feel confident in the Yankees enough to say, yeah, you know, definitively they're going to go out there and win a championship. Like the other team I probably had in mind was the Giants. But do I believe in like the quarterback situation with the Giants and like, and what's going on there? Like I do believe in John Halbar and probably the culture he'll bring in, but it's the surrounding factors for that team.
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That's exactly it. At least you could say you have a championship level coach with the Giants because he has won it before.
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Right.
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But he hasn't won in a while so you know, there's still some proving for him to do, but he does come in at least with the pedigree and you, you want to believe it. See again, it has to always be a trust thing. So you look at the Yankees and say, well, I trust that they'll, they'll have an opportunity. But what are they going to do? See, I. My biggest concern with the Yankees is simply, are you willing to make moves at this deadline with the idea that this might not, this might be the last full season we have for a couple of years when we know that on the horizon after the World Series we might have a work stoppage next year because they're going to dive into the cba. You know, they're going to try to change the system. Players aren't going to want it and you're probably going to lose some games next year. How much, I don't know. But whatever comes of it, we do know majority of the time owners always win. And if the owners want to have a cap system, somehow, some way that's going to happen. And if it does, doesn't that change the way the Yankees have to do business? Because what we've seen, the numbers we've seen are not 300 million or even 290 million or 275 million, but talking about $255 million, which means you gotta now start cutting back. And has Brian Cashman showed you that he has an ability to make really smart economic moves to fill out his roster? Look at the bottom of the order, tell yourself, right, like when you have to overspend to build a good team like the Dodgers do, it doesn't suggest that you're a really good front office. And part of the reason, I think, why Cashman tries to find diamonds in the rough is he wants to prove that, that he can build a roster without buying a World Series, which is what they were accused of doing in the late 90s. He wants to prove that he's got a good eye for it, but I don't know if he does because if he did, I think they might have had a championship by now, but they haven't really done that. Now we know the Mets forget that that whole situation is a disaster, but here on the Yankee side of things, if they are put into a cap system and they have now a true budget, do they have the ability to still build a championship caliber team in that cap system with the controlled spending? And are you ready for a Major League Baseball that doesn't have any super teams anymore because the Dodgers can't operate that way, they won't be able to operate spending what they spend. So they're going to have to figure that out too and move some of those players to make it all work. So that's why you can say, I think it's going to be the Yankees. But you don't know for sure because you don't know what system's coming up. So it's all things to consider when right now, at this trade deadline, if you've got an opportunity to get a player or two that you know suddenly fills two massive holes you have on this team, especially the one at righty catcher, which we all know is going to be a target, they're going to get somebody and if they can do that, maybe they have a chance to win now and they should go for it. Versus being, you know, careful, being, being, worrying about, you know, your, the assets you have to give up when on the other side of things that might be your best chance to end your drought of a championship. This year might be it. Because when are you going to see the American League like this? When are you going to see opportunity like this? Who's the American League team? That really does scare you. Yeah, the Rays give you trouble, but they always do. But are they really that much better than you? Are they really a team you have to worry about? Or can you build yourself a team that doesn't have a weakness, that is a little bit stronger at the bottom of the order? You know, when you get healthy, you can have starting pitching. Is this the year you got to go for it and worry about it later, Especially if you don't play again for another year because of a potential work stoppage. So the Yankees need to be aggressive. 800 now, 193776. We'll get some calls here momentarily. But Anthony Pusick, if I wanted to still celebrate the Knick Championship one month later, where would be a great place for me to go to do that?
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Well, there's really only one place, Allen, in this area and it's Champs Sports Fan Central Station, New York. You're going to want to hear this one. This summer, all lines lead to Champs Sports Fan Central Station. A soccer pop up shop open right in the heart of the city at 125 West 33rd, the soccer destination in New York. Jerseys for every national team you ride with. Usa, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil and way more, all under one roof. If you want to gear up, rep your country and feel the energy of the city, Champs Sports fan Central Station, 125 West 33rd Street. That's where you need to be. And Alan, this is what you were bringing up. Knicks fans, this one is for you. They have championship gear to celebrate your team's first title in 53 years.
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I love that you see it everywhere. Still there's nothing better than that. Just being out at the store, just being out and about and just people still having the Knicks gear on. And I'm telling you, I don't know if you guys do this, but when you see somebody and all you have to do is say Nixon 5, it's like they'll say it back to you. It's just. It's. It's the greeting now.
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Have you taken the walk down 6th Avenue? Alan, me and Jacob take that walk to West 4th. We see. What do we see? Dylan Jones. Dylan Jones Way. Josh Hart Drive.
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Oh, yeah, all the different roads. Yes. 32nd and 7th is what, Carl Anthony Towns street, right?
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Yeah, There's a couple over by us, which is pretty cool. So we get to Miles McBride's over here, too, if I'm not mistaken.
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Oh, the Big Deuce Way. I love it.
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I don't. Sorry. I don't know. I don't know what happened to my street.
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Han street, you're saying?
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Yeah, I don't know. I mean, shouldn't we all get one? Shouldn't there be one for Monica?
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I want to.
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I want one for Peto.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Bill Peto way, I think.
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But Peto has to get it before you bring in Tyler. Honestly.
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Why?
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Listen, I gotta stand up. I gotta stand up for the Short Kings.
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They couldn't fit Wally's last name on one of the street signs, so they.
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Well, he. He'd have Wally way. That's easy to do. Or maybe they just take, like, Wally Wall. Just Wally Wall Street. Makes sense. Yeah. I don't think I'm getting a street. I'm just happy I was on the float for five minutes. 800-919-3776. Let's grab a couple of calls as we got them coming in. And this is the fun part. Let's go to Phil in Queens to start us off. Go ahead, Phil.
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Hey, what's going on, Alan? What's going on, guys?
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What's happening?
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It's been happy one month anniversary, man. Let's go.
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I was told.
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I was told by a Nets fan that it's time to get over and move on.
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I was like, oh, no, he's a Nets fan. That's why he's saying that. No, no, no way. We're not getting over this until we lose in the playoffs next year. We're gonna be bragging about it up until.
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And even still, the banner's not coming down even if you lose in the playoffs next.
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Yeah.
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Oh, no. A thousand percent. A thousand percent.
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All right.
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We were talking about, you know, the Yankees. You were talking about the Yankees before. But I think, I do think the Yankees are probably the closest to winning it. Obviously it's not saying much because, you know, we're not doing well either. You know, we're not like, you know, we were top of the al, but what does that really mean right now? But I think, yeah, the Yankees are probably closest to winning the chip.
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Just so quickly.
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If I could say something about the World cup, if I'm a betting man, I'm putting my money on Spain. Spain is the only person, the only team that could possibly beat France. And then after that it's easy go. So that's all I want to say. Thank you, guys. Nixon 5.
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All right, Phil. Nixon 5. Yeah, that's going to be interesting. Now that we've gotten to this level where it's like the four best teams in the world. That's what's going to make it now. I think we'll see not only high level. I'm waiting for. I know the ball hitting the wire thing against Norway was a real controversial moment, but you know, there's still one more coming. There has to be. Referee call a handball that wasn't. Let me something or something that that var like, you know, something's coming before it's all said and done. It always happens that way. Moose in Jamaica. What's up, Moose
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on solo. The Imperial fleet approaches. We need to go into light speed.
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Make sure it's fixed.
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Your name set me up for that. What you call the program today. So, yeah, for what it's worth, congratulations to the Knicks. As a net fan of recent memory, of recent years. I'm not hating. You deserve it. It's been a while since New York has had a championship. I didn't go to the parade because I'm a Nets fan. I can't celebrate. It's not my team. But I have to show respect, what respect is due and stay down till I come up. And ultimately, hopefully the Yankees with moves. See, I think we should move on from Jazz now that he's a free agent. And obviously the Giants have Matt Chapman and Luisa Rice. Better contact. A little bit of power and a right handed bat in Chapman. Pick him up. Send Jazz and some prospects their way. Pick those two guys up. I don't think we need school. We have enough pitching and I still. I'm going to beat this drum. I want to see Mike Trout play for a winner, a contender that's motivated. He's motivated to get a ring. He's coming up on the end of his career, I'd like to see him play center instead of Grisham in crucial moments in the playoffs. Grisham is hit or miss in the playoffs. Sometimes he's hot, sometimes he's not. And maybe two bullpen pieces. I think we beat anybody in the World Series in five games if we pick up those pieces because we'll just have a lineup one through six of Rice, Judge, Trout, Bellinger, Stanton and Chapman. And that goes. That will just, that will just force any starting pitcher and bullpen to really work hard and will dominate, will actually hit, will be clutched. That's our problem. The Post. Thanks for taking my call.
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All right, Moose. Well, first of all, you named a bunch of guys that are injured, and that's something that you can't overlook. The other thing is Trout, Trout's got to want to leave. He doesn't want to leave. He's happy where he is. This is, this is who he wants to be. I don't think he'd really love playing in New York with the spotlight and the attention, all this. I don't think that's for him. It's just not his way. So you're never going to see him ask for a trade. And again, for a franchise that is being very careful with their pennies and we don't know what's coming on the other side of next year with a new deal. When it comes to salary cap and o salary cap, it's it does not seem like a move that they would make. Doesn't seem like it. But we can always dream. That's what it's about. But you mentioned Judge. How do you know he's coming back? That's right. How do you know he's coming back? That's not a real thing yet, is it? So you cannot count on that yet. You never know.
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Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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All right, so ESPN New York's Home Run Derby coverage is presented by Pella Window and Doors of New Jersey. Visit pella.comeisen to find your local showroom today. So it is derby night tonight for baseball. To me, this is, I think this is the best of all the of the four major sports of all the All Star, you know, events that they do. I think the Home Run Derby is now taking over. I mean, we all know the slam dunk contest sucks. Like that's out. Please. There really isn't anything. Hockey used to have some fun stuff that's gone. That's not the same. Does anybody even watch the Pro Bowl? Honestly, like all the other stuff that they, the silly stuff they were doing with the Pro bowl, nobody's watching that. Two million people watched the Pro bowl last February. Two million for the NFL. That's like a commercial break for them. Two million people. That's all you could get. It just shows you it is not an interest interesting to the fans anymore. They don't want to consume that. And people in the NFL fans consume everything and they don't want to consume that. But the Home Run Derby, this is special. And it's by the way, for those who don't know, not only is 8 o' clock you can get the full coverage right here on ESPN New York, but it's on Netflix. Get ready for that. Is anybody else bothered by the fact that I pay for Netflix as a streaming service and as I'm watching whatever shows I'm watching, including tonight's Home Run Derby, there's commercial breaks. Why? Why are there commercial breaks when I'm already paying for the streaming Service right now, I got to get pounded over there with commercials. That's just what's happening now. It keeps changing. And of course, anytime you can monetize, you will. A major league baseball will. They are doing a different system. The clock is gone. Jeff pass and hates it. I mean, I don't.
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I don't.
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We're going to see.
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Right?
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But I don't know if it's something I'm ready to hate as much as I think it's something that is going to be different. And it might. The urgency and the speed of the night might be affected. Here's passion on first take about the. The home run derby format you're going to see tonight.
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I think it's gonna stink. And I'm like, genuinely, I'm worried about that because the whole reason that the timer came in in the first place is because it felt really slow. And the timer brought urgency and the timer brought a countdown and an end. And we're just gonna see tonight. I think time between pitches, it's gonna grind a little bit. But look, when you have Junior Caminero in there and Kyle Schwaber in there and Bryce Harper and luminaries who can hit the ball 500ft, it's still gonna be a good show. And at the end of the day, all we want to do is see people hit balls really far. And I think we're going to see that tonight.
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You're going to see it for sure. But are you going to get bored quickly? Because the at bats just take longer. I kind of like the clock. I like the urgency of it. I like the fact that. Look, did we see every single swing? Do you need to. I mean, at least you got to. You knew when somebody was hitting it out. I thought some of the split screen was good. There was just a speed to it and a tempo to it. I thought that's what made it more entertaining. They're changing it. We shall see. But yeah, you got Schwaber, Caminero. He mentioned Jordan Walker, Bryce Harper, Wilson Contreras. You know, I mean, you've got some names there. And you also got Ben Rice from the Yankees, so this should be fun. And Ben Rice's dad is pitching to him. Dan, which is such a cool story. And. And I was like, actually was able to connect with Dan Rice earlier today. Went back and forth with him a little bit about it. A couple of hockey dads, that's all. And he was going to try to make time for us if he could. They're already at the stadium. Believe it or not getting ready for the event tonight. So, you know, you never know. He could pop on, but it just, it's going to be tough. But we did, we did talk about it a little bit and he was, he was just excited because think about it like, if you're a dad, you know, you've been pitching to your son since he's little, right? So imagine having that opportunity to pitch to him at an All Star event at the Home Run Derby when your son is going to be an All Star. Like, come on, that's like, that's top shelf. Like, that's it. The highest of the highs when it comes to being a dad. And you know, you've. You've gone through this whole journey with one of your kids and to be able to experience that. So cool. So anyways, that's what's happening today on that front. But overall, again, when it comes to All Star weekends, the game itself, which is tomorrow, like, does it matter anymore? As a kid, I remember, I actually remember scoring All Star games. That's how much of a nerd I was back in the day. American League versus National League. I'd have the score book out, score the game. It's all fired up. I was a Yankee fancy. The American League had to win. Suddenly you're rooting for players that you hate on other teams, but you're rooting for them because you want your side to win. And there was difference, too. The American League and the National League, different style of play. One side of dh, the other side believed no DH pitchers. One side played home run powerball. The other, other side was, you know, get them on, get them over and get them in. It was just a different. More focus on pitching. And now it's like everybody plays the same way and it's kind of the same. There is no difference. And think about this too. Player gets hurt in the All Star Game. How do you feel? Not good, right? Like, why did he pitch? He shouldn't have pitched. He got hurt. Game and nothing. So think about what you're saying. Game means nothing. So if it means nothing, why are we doing it? NBA All Star Game next year.
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Like.
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Like they did it this year. It did pretty well. Was on NBC. Got about 8 million people watching and it was the world. And then two us, Us teams round robin. Wembley called out people. It was a little more entertaining, but it still was like just short scrimmages. It wasn't like the big presentation it used to be where just stars and stars and they play against each other and they Cared. They don't care. NHL is going at three on three next year. Three on three. Like, what's three on three? Hockey. I heard DP say it's like summer hockey. It's true. Now it's again to make it interesting, but it's like, it's just a different format. I already talked about the Pro Bowl. Does anybody really care about the Pro Bowl? Nobody cares about that. Flag football. No, not the Pro Bowl. So when you have Cam Schlitler say, I'm not going to pitch because it's not the day he's supposed to throw hard. He doesn't want to throw hard on a day like this. It's just like his throw day. But why would he ramp it up? It's an All Star game. So you're not going to show up and throw 85. This guy throws gas. He's going to want to perform. It's the right thing to do when you're on that kind of a stage. But why do I want to throw my arm out in this game when it's really not supposed to be the night I throw hard? I got a pitch from my team. And Schlitler knows how important he is to the Yankees, don't you? So when he says, I'm declining, I'm not going to play, do you hold it against him? What do you mean? It's a showcase for the league. It's important you play. You know, Zach Wheeler said, I don't want to go because I'm your fifth choice. I don't want to. I'm not, I'm not an All Star. Like it's like the Pro bowl in the NFL or anything else. If you're named a replacement All Star, are you really an All Star? Like, are you really a Pro Bowler if, like you, you're like the 12th guy they had to get to because no one else could play before you. And that's exactly what Wheeler was saying. If you didn't want to pick me first as an All Star, why am I going fifth? I'm really not an All Star now. You just need somebody. I'm a, I'm a. I'm a fill in. I'm a seat warmer. I'm just here because you need somebody like that. Like you don't want to be that. So when you get players doing this, you know the kid Misarovsky is, he's got a dead arm. You think kid throws 100 miles an hour every game. But when it comes time to showcase him, didn't get to see him against Skins. And now we won't get to see him against, I mean, in the, in the All Star Game. In the, in the, the biggest game, the biggest stage for the sport to see all the stars come together because he's got a dead arm. And it's smarter for him. It's not that he's going to want on the il, but it's smarter for him to take the break and take the rest because it's a long season and we all know what matters. The regular season for your team and most importantly, October. And you don't want something in July, the Midsummer Classic to affect what you are or who you are come October. So if it's not that important for the players to participate in, for various reasons I just laid out, how important is it to you? Home Run Derby's fun. You could have still a day where you celebrate the game, where you do the little things. You play a little softball game. You know, for celebrity softball game, you have your Home Run Derby and then we just call it a day. We name, we name the All Star team, then we all go home. Would you be okay with that? Because it seems like for a lot of people, if my player, in a sport where everybody seems to break down all the time, if my player gets hurt because of a swing he took in the Home Run Derby or because he threw one too many pitches in his appearance in the All Star Game, and if he just comes in for one battery, I mean, what are we doing? I came all the way here to just pitch the one batter. It could be one pitch, could be two pitches. That's all I got. Why am I here? So how much would you really miss it if these leagues all decided we don't need to have a game? Now remember, everything's about money. And for all the leagues, All Star weekends are about making money. It's a convention. What they want is to bring in all their partners and they bring them in and that's their way of like having their big convention. It's like baseball con, football con, Basketball con, you know, Comic Con fanatics, fest like that. That's basically what All Star weekends are. It's just a way to make money. But the game itself, no longer a showcase for the sport, right? Still can have good moments. Don't get me wrong, they can still have good moments, but it's not what it was. And especially when you're finding yourself going down to like the fifth replacement because somebody got hurt or somebody doesn't want to go, it does kind of turn into a bit of a sham. Because if you're not the first choice All Star, if you're a replacement All Star, are you still an All Star? Are you really an All Star? That's the question that I have for you. More calls. 800-919-3776. Let's go to Flavio in Brooklyn. You've been waiting a bit. What's up, Flavio?
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A.
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How's it going? Good, Alan.
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What's it called?
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So I'm excited for, for the, the All Star Game.
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My, my thing is that.
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What's it called?
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I know that you had said last week that you didn't want Ben Rice to be partaking in it, but I feel like the way that he swings the bat and especially that this is in Philadelphia, if I'm not mistaken. Like, I have like, zero to no worries. I'm a Met fan. And I'm not, I'm not no Yankee supporter by any means. Unnecessary. But I have a feeling that he's gonna end up winning just because of the fact that his swing, his style, how, how short that that stadium is. And plus, if you're gonna bet him, I mean, I mean, the numbers have him at plus 1,000. I mean, that's a really good number right there. I think he's gonna be a dark horse here. Do not be surprised if you see him in the Finals. I mean, when he swings, I mean, it looks like he doesn't exert a lot of energy. Not like Harper, who has like, that huge uppercut and stuff like that. And I feel like Schwaber and Harper are going to carry a lot of pressure because they're going to be doing it in front of Philly.
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So put on a show.
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Yeah, I'm being serious. I mean, just look into Ben Bryson for putting money into him. I mean, the favorite to me is Junior Carbonaro.
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Okay, Flavio, with some betting advice on the Home Run Derby tonight. Thank you, Flavio. I, I said it last week and I kind of regret. I. Because, you know, with the judge injury, I'm like, I don't want to see another guy impacted. It wasn't as much as Ben getting hurt as it was we have seen sometimes the Home Run Derby does mess up someone's swing. But when you think about who's throwing to him, which is not a pitching coach, it's his dad who's been throwing to him his whole life. You think if anybody knows exactly where to put the ball, it'd be him. And his father was his father pitching it in in college. So it's not like, you know, he's just like. Is just like a regular dad who's never an athlete. So I. I am. It's a cool story. I'm. I'm interested in seeing it. And I mentioned it last week only in passing, because with all the injuries they have, you just didn't want to see. He's having such a great year. He's got 29 home runs. He's basically on pace for 50. Can you imagine that? What a year he's having that. I just would like to see him be able to continue that in the second half of the season because he's so important to this team, especially with all the injuries. See, we got. Let's go, Manny and flushing. Yeah. You're up next, Manny.
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Hey, Alan, how you doing?
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Good.
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Listen, like we brought up earlier about who's going to be the next team to win a title after the Knicks, I'm going to suspect the Yankees because I think, you know the Yankees, you know, I know that they've been struggling as of late, you know, because of Josh J. By the time he gets back, I think the Yankees on a roll. And I also want to ask you this. I heard that. You heard. What are your thoughts of this? You know, this bad amount of bio.
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I'm gonna get into that. 4:30. We do a weekend wrap up. 4:30. I've got that.
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I can't wait.
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4:30. I'm gonna tell you what happened. Yeah. I'll tell you exactly what happened.
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Yes.
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Yep. Yeah, yeah.
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Thank you. Because. Thank you, sir.
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Very interesting story and very interesting fallout from it as well. Appreciate that.
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I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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This weekend was like, I know Saturday wasn't great. Sunday, unreal. Not a cloud in the sky today. Beautiful. If you had a chance to enjoy today, God bless, because this is the part of the summer. Well, yeah, it's hot. It's supposed to be hot, but it's not like that. Humid, disgusting hot. It's just that right kind of summer feel. So this, this is beautiful. The last two days been great. And again, if you can enjoy it the best, you can enjoy it. I know Don is. He's on vacation this week. Peter will be back with us tomorrow. So we'll have bullpen coyotes for the rest of the week, Peter and I, which would be a lot of fun. But it's just you and me today. Han Solo, 800-919-3776. Just before Manny called in and he said, you know, well, when Judge comes back. And I just said, hang on a second. Are you sure Judge is coming back? There's no timetable. There's a, there's a. They're going to look into it. I mean, that's, I think it's like early August, middle of August will be the target date of when they're going to probably check again and see what's going on with that stress fracture in that rib that he's got. But right now, he can't throw. He's not swinging a bat. He can't do anything. He's got to let it heal again. Stress fracture takes time to heal. You know how you heal a stress fracture? No movement. And that's tough to do in a rib when you're a baseball player. So he hasn't played in over a month now, right? It's a month and a half, I think. And of course they're going to reassess. But what we're talking about, though, is a mid August maybe, and then by then, what does it become if he's still not right, if he still can't do much or if he's still limited. You get to September, there's a ramp up everybody. It's not like in some sports actually, you don't have that anymore, where you come back from injury and just play right away. Everything's a ramp up now, especially with a guy like him. So if we're now all of a sudden into late August, early September, and we're starting a ramp up period with him, what are we doing? Is he really going to play? And who among you if he's like, look, because you know, judge, I'll do whatever it takes. I want to be ready for the playoffs, which I think is the best thing to do. If you're the Yankees, you tread water without them, which they've been doing, and you make the playoffs. But if he come, and I expect he might, he comes back in time for the playoffs, maybe get some swings in the last two weeks, who knows? Remember last two weeks, 14 game series at home against the Rays that could have implications. But if he's not himself, you're going to hold it against him. We're going to do this whole same old judge crap. You're going to do this whole thing that he's not clutch or you're going to give him the benefit of, you know what, he didn't play for three months, then he had to ramp himself back up, get ready to play. And of course he's going to be rusty. Of course it's going to be difficult. How are you going to handle that? Because you know what's coming. So if you're the Yankees, sure, you'd love to have him back. You can't rush him back, you can't do that to him because you got to make sure that he's right. Because if he isn't, you know the narrative. You know what everybody's going to do? They're going to, they're going to talk about him being unclutch and not bring up the fact that he's got a stress fracture in his rib. And for a baseball player, you talk about a debilitating injury, not one that you can't come back from, but not one you can come back from quickly, not one you can come back from. And all of a sudden everything's fine, the swing's fine, you can throw fine. We will know in a couple of weeks, of course, but right now you can't assume anything. You can't just say, well, when he comes back, he'll be back at some point. But what version of him when he does come back, are you Going to get at the most important time of the year. That's why I'm saying don't just, don't just assume he'll be back and he'll be himself. This injury definitely in the middle of a summer, messing with him. Back to your calls. 800-919-3776. Let's go to Stephen, Middle Village. What's up, Steve?
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Hey, Alan, thanks for taking the call. I appreciate it. About what you just said about Judge, I still remember Mickey Mantle breaking his foot and it took him in, in June of 63 and he. And it took two months and he only played 65 games and he was a pinch hitter and all that other kind of stuff. They got swept in the World Series, but he wasn't a hundred percent, wasn't himself. You can't assume the Judge is going to be 100% or even 80% and you can't hold it against him. Also, a lot of the talk I heard about Cole and Freed and when they get back and Rodin, you don't know, I mean, pitchers, and I'm not criticizing pitchers, you don't know, especially nowadays, how effective they are, how effective they're going to be. Cole isn't the same person, the same pitcher so far that he usually is on his baseball card, as you guys say. So I really called up about who's going to win the next championship. There's always a lot, and I'm an old Yankee fan. You're a Yankee fan. There's always a lot of talk about the Yankees. You win the World Series, getting the playoffs. I'm sorry, I don't see it in my gut. I don't see it and I don't. And I haven't seen it in a while. They don't have enough role players. I'm not talking about the strategies and all that stuff.
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No, you're right.
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Old news. They need a couple of people that actually know how to play baseball. I think the shortstop that they have is the guy Caballero. Caballero, I believe his name.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think he's a gamer. There are a few other people like that who are hungry. You need hungry players. Anyway, that's all I got to say. And thank you for taking the call. I appreciate it.
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Thanks, Steve. Yeah, I think I'm getting this sentiment from a lot of Yankee fans I talk to, especially ones that are, you know, I'm friends with, is the apprehension of really just believing anymore. There used to just be this, this bold belief that you just knew, like, well, I'll figure it out. They'll get a good player and then like pitching. I'm not worried about it. I think Cole's gonna find it. I think, you know, he's working through it right now, but I just love his mentality and I, I'm not concerned with him. I think Schlitler is just, he's the goods. Freed comes back, that can help. Radon comes back. What conditions he in? What are you getting at him? But you got at least three ace level pitchers. I'm not worried about it. Bullpen. Cash has got to do better. Duval disaster, right? Like you got to do better with your bullpen. I think he knows it. Does Weathers move to the bullpen and if he does, what is he? Because you know he's hit or miss sometimes. He did have a nice outing over the weekend. Man, that guy sometimes can just throw up some meatballs. But what, what Steve just said is the biggest issue with the Yankees. It's the grinders. I talked about the other day with Don and Peter. Give me those guys at the bottom of the order that are grinders. No, they're not as talented. Of course not. But in the field they're plus they don't hurt you. And at the plate they will battle.
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That's it.
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That's what you're looking for. I know you're not going to hit 25, 30 home runs and I know you're not going to hit for average, but can you just battle through some at bats? Can you make opposing pitchers work when you get on the base pads, can you make things happen? That's what I want. And I feel like the Yankees have become like this franchise as we know that can only play one way. That's maddening to me. The only play one way thing. They try to get more athletic so they wouldn't get stuck doing that. But don't they still do it? They still do it. And that's the part I think makes me hesitant about believing in them as a franchise that will be there and that can build the championship team. They have the talent to be a championship team for the most part, but it's the system, it's the bottom of the order. It's the lack of grinders. They kind of have like these sort of same type of players at the bottom of the order rather than having guys, although Caballero, I'll say is one of them. Give me some guys that are just going to grind it out every game, show up, battle knowing that the stars are the guy that you're setting up the big bats top of the lineup. Give me that. I just don't know if they build the team that way anymore. But again where they are, if they get healthy big, if they still should be a team, that's there and that's what we're looking forward to.
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