Hour 1: Soto-Lindor Beef?

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg

Episode Summary: "Hour 1: Soto-Lindor Beef?"

ESPN New York — March 31, 2026

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Main Theme

The crew kicks off the week diving into the growing speculation around a potential rift between New York Mets stars Juan Soto and Francisco Lindor, as well as a viral out-of-context quote from Jets coach Aaron Glenn. While sports headlines shape the show, the conversation veers into classic DHR banter: disputed definitions, locker room drama, leadership, and—of course—music nostalgia and toilet humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Classic "Base System" Debate Breaks Out

(00:46 – 07:10)

• Backdrop: The trio recaps a heated off-air debate about the “base system” (i.e., baseball metaphors for romantic progress among teenagers). Don is adamant that his interpretation is correct—even in the face of six-to-one opposition and Google's consensus.
• Alan’s Critique: “Don has never been more wrong about something… Don’s version of second base took all of us at the same time. We went, that's not second base, folks.” (04:37)
• Don’s Defense: “There are three distinct, different things, but they all have one thing in common. They all can't share the same level. Can't do it.” (03:41)
• Peter Suggests Cultural Difference: “Don is from an area...I could see a different set of rules there.” (05:23)
• Amusing Diversion: Jokes about consulting ‘Red Tube’ or ‘Brazzers’ as authorities and riffing on alternate systems, like football, since “football is more popular now” (07:14).

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2. Aaron Glenn's "Promised Land" & Jets Context

(08:29 – 11:47, 48:02 – 49:07)

• The Quote: Aaron Glenn, new Jets coach, described Geno Smith as the “guy that’s going to take us to the promised land.” (08:52)
• Media Overreaction: The trio unpacks how the phrase was taken out of context by fans and media, with Don noting, “Well, the way it was presented was he’s going to lead us to the Super Bowl.”
• Reality Check: “In the NFL, ‘the promised land’ is the Super Bowl. But actually, he was talking about getting in the end zone, scoring points.” (10:00)
• Takeaway: Critique of media for amplifying innocuous quotes; nods to how content is misunderstood when read versus heard.
• Peter: “When you hear the whole thing...he's not talking about the promised land, meaning the Super Bowl. He's talking about...let's just get in the end zone.” (48:26)

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3. Lindor–Soto: The Alleged Beef & Mets Clubhouse Drama

(15:17 – 22:44, 37:15 – 41:57)

• Incident Recap: Inquiry into whether Lindor intentionally declined to run home (thus denying Soto an RBI), sparking rumors of “beef.”
• Don’s Skepticism: “I'm not saying that Lindor did that, and I'm not saying if Lindor did do that, that he would be right. But people to say baseball players don’t do that...oh, they do.” (15:40)
• Anthony Details the Play: “Lindor leads off with a triple...Soto, infield back, ground ball—typically scores a run. Lindor doesn't go…then he does go on a different play. It’s just interesting.” (17:19)
• Peter Notes Body Language: “Soto...kind of had a look on his face walking back to the dugout; I did see Lindor looking at him as he was walking to the dugout.” (18:02)
• Don Brings Up New Aggressive Coaching: “The argument has been the Mets are going to be very aggressive this year...then the very next time you can be aggressive you’re not.” (18:39)
• Locker Room Speculation: Citing Buster Olney, the hosts note that Soto and Lindor’s lockers are reportedly on opposite ends now—often a sign of tension. (37:15)
• Don: “They don’t like each other and that’s fine. Not everybody’s got to like each other...But if it ever gets to the point where maybe Lindor didn’t try to score to take an RBI away from Soto, then it’s a problem.” (38:17, 38:52)
• Psychology of Clubhouse Power: Don theorizes about “guys that were gone” last offseason taking sides, making for potential ‘camps’ inside the clubhouse. (39:42)

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4. Leadership and Team Dynamics

(40:25 – 41:17)

• Alan’s Wish: “You wish you could say to someone, hey, Soto, you're the better ball player, but Lindor, you’re the leader. You're both vitally important. Can't everyone just...coexist?”
• Don Raises the Tough Question: “Can you lead if you don't get along with the best player on the team?”
• Alan on Leadership Flaws: “A leader should know how to try to handle everybody...Maybe he’s not built for it.” (41:32)

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5. Drop Madness, Classic DHR Goofing, and Music Nostalgia

(23:17 – 36:54, 42:39 – 44:40)

• "Drop Madness” Bracket: The crew introduces their “Drop Madness” contest, reliving favorite show soundbites and debating merits (“I had diarrhea that you dream about” vs. “Pound it”—24:25).
• Lighthearted Banter: Mock outrage over communication mishaps, loving ribbing among hosts, e.g., Don’s accidental lack of respect for producer Anthony (12:29 – 15:13).
• Music Tangents: From Criss Cross’s "Jump" (29:23) to Van Halen (31:59) to the multitude of “jump” songs, the group dives into '90s nostalgia and personal tales about music fandom.
• Peter on Criss Cross’s “Jump”: “Jump was the biggest song at every middle school dance in the world. Guess what? Everyone did—you’re not gonna believe this—they jumped.” (30:53)
• Don on Van Halen: “Jump made me sick to my stomach...the synthesizer...they did to me, they died.” (32:43)

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6. Other Notable Sidebars

• Oregon Trail & Generational Gaming: Loving riffs on how bleak and arbitrary childhood computer games were (“What's the goal of Oregon Trail? Don't die.” – 46:21)
• Coach Names as Italian Dishes: Goofing on last names of famous coaches, recasting them as pasta dishes ("fried calipari," "baked patina," "carneseca," etc.) (35:33 – 36:09)
• Peter’s Sinus Infection Update: TMI moment with Don blaming sinus meds for bathroom mishaps—and tying it into show soundbites (26:27 – 27:02)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Alan Hahn: “Don’s version of second base took all of us at the same time. We went, that's not second base, folks.” (04:37)
• Don LaGreca: “If you run into me at the Garden, I will give you an unfiltered, unfettered conversation. I will give you what we talked about during the meeting.” (08:05)
• Peter Rosenberg: “If that's really going on, it’s a major, major problem because these are two of the best players on the team.” (19:55)
• Buster Olney (audio): “I don't think Lindor and Soto are close. It's interesting to me that in the Mets clubhouse this year, ... they move Soto's locker to the opposite end from where Lindor is.” (37:17)
• Don LaGreca: “There's always somebody you don’t like, somebody you resent, somebody you think you’re better than but they're making more money...But if there is a problem where it’s affecting the outcome...you've got a problem.” (38:17)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Base System Debate: 00:46 – 07:10
• Aaron Glenn "Promised Land" / Jets: 08:29 – 11:47, 48:02 – 49:07
• Lindor/Soto Mets Drama: 15:17 – 22:44, 37:15 – 41:57
• Drop Madness / Soundbite Bracket: 23:17 – 27:02
• Music Nostalgia / Criss Cross, Van Halen: 29:23 – 34:02
• Oregon Trail & Gaming Tangent: 45:21 – 47:26

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Takeaways

• The show blends hard sports analysis with the uniquely zany, hyper-local, and personality-driven DHR dynamic.
• The Mets' chemistry bears watching: whether the Soto–Lindor tension is real or overblown, it's become a top talking point for both media and fans.
• The role of leadership, ego, and media narrative in modern locker rooms—versus old-school approaches—is an ongoing thread.
• And, as always: expect sharp detours into adolescence, nostalgia, and the peculiarities of New York life.

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Transcript

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[Don LaGreca]

She fell in love with the sex.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don. Sauce was everywhere.

[Alan Hahn]

And Rosenberg, if you want to stay up, he's got the energy that matters. This isn't North Dakota. This is New York.

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

It is 3:01 in New York City, New York, America. Don Hahn and Rosenberg. By hook or by crook, we are all here. It. We didn't know when, who, what, why, how, but we are here. I'm in the studio, and I believe Don Allen insisted on sitting right really close to one another today at Madison Square Garden.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This. This. This is. This is epic.

[Alan Hahn]

I gotta get

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don just trying to get himself set up. We've been sitting for a half hour. Everything's fine. He was holding court during the meeting.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was dropping knowledge. Well, dropping bars. Like, it was so entertaining. And then it's like showtime. Oh, well, let me fix my camera.

[Don LaGreca]

No, I just. Listen, we can't use the air link until Michael's done. And once the air link was up, I had some issues. But you could see me now, right?

[Alan Hahn]

I'm looking.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm looking pretty good, I think.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what else you can see?

[Don LaGreca]

Look, you can see me.

[Alan Hahn]

There he is.

[Don LaGreca]

We're together across the street for the Garden.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So much fun.

[Don LaGreca]

So I've got Rangers, Devils for the first and only time this year. Alan just wanted to be here to help me set up because he doesn't have a Nick game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don LaGreca]

He's not working it tonight.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Knicks are playing. They don't want me to work tonight.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't get mad at me.

[Don LaGreca]

I believe that when I come up with a list, it's based on experience. And I. And I. And I knew what I was doing today during the meeting, a lot of people were guessing. I was knowing.

[Alan Hahn]

I got to tell you, I know we can't get into details. Don has never been more wrong about something. And if you. If you've listened to this show before and you go, I know Don legreca, he doesn't back down off an argument today. Don had, in my estimation, 1, 2, 3. Allen. I didn't hear from you. You thought Don was wrong also right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I disagreed, okay. For some things.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay. One, two, three. Carlin, four. John, five. Allen, six. So it was a six on one argument and then Google was used.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Agreeing with the six. Don still believes every single person is wrong. Yes, it is. I Don. So there's no amount of information presented that will make you say, hey, maybe I'm the one who, who's using the scale that's different than everyone.

[Don LaGreca]

I want to get into this because I'm telling you I can convince the world.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, you can't.

[Don LaGreca]

Because all I'll say is this, why can't we just. All I will say is this, why

[Peter Rosenberg]

can't we just say it?

[Don LaGreca]

There are three goals in this particular assignment, all right? And we will number them as far as enjoyment is concerned. Three, two and one.

[Alan Hahn]

All right? But there's not three, there's four. Is that. Maybe we already have a problem?

[Don LaGreca]

No, but, but there are, There are three that have one thing in common. All right? There are three distinct, different things, but they all have one thing in common. They all can't share the same level. Can't do it. I can't have it. And that's the flaw in their argument is that they're going off of levels and they've got three completely different experiences on the same level. I can't stand.

[Alan Hahn]

I think, I think that I'm. I'm looking at Jake right now. I can't see Anthony. I don't know what Allen's face looks like. I truly don't know what you're talking about. I don't even understand what you're. Maybe we're. It, it's, it's four different things, okay? Without getting to specifics, we're talking about the base system, okay? It's the base system that as teenagers, you used to talk about things that happened, you know, when, when boys and girls got together, alright, and, and how far? Oh, they went to first base. They went to second base. That conversation, right? Don's version of second base.

[Don LaGreca]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

Took all of, all of us at the same time. Went that. That's not second base, folks. It is not second. And Don will not back off.

[Don LaGreca]

And the reason I'm not going to back down since you've given up this information that you're telling me. They're all home runs.

[Alan Hahn]

What do you mean?

[Don LaGreca]

They can't all be home runs?

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know, Alan. Why does he say that? What does he mean, we're not saying that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

First of all, among the six that agreed. Right. Of the gang of six that all agreed, I would just venture to guess that two of us are fairly well experienced to know that we could probably help set the rules. And, and, and yet I will say that Don is from an area that he's. He grew up in a place where I'm like, you know what? I could see a different set of rules there.

[Don LaGreca]

Sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I could see it going a little bit differently.

[Alan Hahn]

But it's still on Don to say I'm looking around at seeing how everyone else is saying it. Clearly, where I'm from is the outlier because six people and Google see it.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't think Google's experience, I don't know. You know, if Red Tube mentioned this, I'd say, you know what, I'd pay attention. Oh, you believe that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait a minute. Let's listen.

[Don LaGreca]

Let's hear.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don LaGreca]

We're calling in an expert. So.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So maybe Richard could call in and his experience with brazzers.

[Alan Hahn]

Right? Yeah, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Could perhaps also lend to this conversation.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen, everybody's experience is different. You know, I'm sure if we're sitting here, you know, having a conversation with John Travolta in 1977, you know, his second base is like, you know, our grand slam.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. I just thought that a different world. I thought, in my opinion, to me, and I don't know how you feel, Alan. To me, the only controversy that I've ever experienced in this conversation. And by the way, this came up on my morning show with Ebro and Laura last week. We talked about this.

[Don LaGreca]

So have me on, because I think

[Alan Hahn]

I can get you on this. I know it's crazy. The only thing that we had any discrepancy on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right.

[Alan Hahn]

Was third. Some people have the more innocent version of third and some people have the closest thing to home run version of third.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't you think that's what attribute would be?

[Alan Hahn]

And Don, though. But Don had one of those things at second. That's what threw off the entire matrix. And I'm describing this brilliantly. In my opinion.

[Don LaGreca]

You couldn't do better than trying to say and until the door gets kicked in, I think we're good. Is that there is a distinct difference between the innocent version and the close to home run version. They're worlds apart. Worlds apart. So they can't share the same base. They just can't.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, no, I agree with that. They should.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I need to get a light on Don's face. You guys talk all right.

[Alan Hahn]

You work on setting up Don.

[Don LaGreca]

Really all we're doing at this point is just arguing with the baseball analogy. We got to come up with football because football is more popular now. We've got a hundred yard field. We've got more options.

[Alan Hahn]

We should we by the way, and it's a shame and we have a lot of people with us. Of course you want to participate on the show. ESPN New York YouTube page, jump on, get in the chat, have a conversation. A lot of people weighing in. The problem is 90% of our. The people in our chat, I don't know if they've made it to first base. That's the only problem.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm going to tell you this. Maybe this is going to get me in a lot of trouble. Don't worry, I'm not going to say anything that's going to be dumble boring.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

Is that I'm at the Garden tonight. My first appearance at the Garden since I was the Ranger announcement since you

[Alan Hahn]

left them high and dry and I

[Don LaGreca]

mean that's one way of looking at it. Then there's the logical I just got a better gig.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Then there's also I got the dream job to me and I am the

[Alan Hahn]

truth get in the way of a good story.

[Don LaGreca]

I am going to be out and about between periods. All right.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

If you're going to the game tonight and you want details on this conversation, I will give them to you.

[Alan Hahn]

By the way, between periods is a great way to often describe what's happening at Right.

[Don LaGreca]

You got to be. You got to be careful. So if you run into me at the Garden, you'll break it down. Then you're like, what were you guys talking? I will give you an unfiltered, unfettered conversation. I will give you what we talked about during the meeting.

[Alan Hahn]

Now I can explain how we got here. By the way, I think Aaron Glenn is where this all started from. Do we have the actual clip of which. Which Aaron Glenn clip? Is it Anthony that brings this conversation to a head again? Weird, weird, weird word choice by myself. All right, here's Aaron Glenn Geno Smith on Geno Smith fitting what we want

[Aaron Glenn (clip)]

to do something about a quarterback. And I'm going to say a quarterback with a chip on his shoulder. And listen, he's proven a lot in this league of what he's done. Especially when you take those time when he was in Seattle. Listen, he fits exactly what we're trying to do. So obviously we've created an identity. The foundation of our offense is pretty good now. Like I just feel like he's the guy that's going to lead us to the promise land. He's the guy that's going to touch the ball more than anybody else on offense. And listen, I know he had his struggles and I think a lot of quarterbacks, you know, they have their struggles. If you look at the last five years, the guy has thrown the most interception. I mean, the top guys are up there.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, that hit different than when I read it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, because it was taken out of context. It was only, he's the guy that's going to take us to the promised land.

[Don LaGreca]

He's the guy that's going to help us score touchdowns. That's the way I took it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. But, but, but the promised land is the end. See, what I asked is what exactly is the promised land for the Jets? It's the end because it was out of context. Quote. When you hear the whole bite, what he's basically saying is he's the guy that's going to help us get in the end zone. Yeah. Okay. I guess the promised land is actually scoring points as an offense.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, that makes sense right now. But the way it kind of was presented was he's going to lead us

[Peter Rosenberg]

to the Super Bowl.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, that's what promised land implies.

[Don LaGreca]

That's what I'm like. Well, the promised land for the jets is probably finishing, you know, 8 and 9 because that'd be way better than what they. What you actually said was I said 500 because I forgot that it's a 17 game schedule.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's not what you said.

[Don LaGreca]

No, I gave you exactly what I believe. Second basis.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

The.

[Don LaGreca]

The take that if you're the jets because really.

[Alan Hahn]

So promised land for the jets can't be choosers. It's finding pay dirt occasionally. That's all. The promised land is getting into the end zone here and there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what he was intimating. Not the promised land of a Geno's going to. Because look, in the NFL, the promised lands, a Super Bowl. So when you see that quote out of context, the first thing you're thinking is, wait, this guy thinks Geno Smith's leaving the Justice.

[Don LaGreca]

It's code for touchdown. The way. Remember, remember? It was irritating. As much as I love Tom Coughlin, he'd always refer to the red zone as the green zone. And I'd be like, is the green zone green zone inside the 30? Like, what is he talking about? No, he just called the red zone the green zone.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Because it's not where we stop.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's where we keep going.

[Don LaGreca]

Right. And it's the promised land. He's going to get us touchdowns. He's going to score points for us. So that. Right. Peter, listening to it sounds like specific to scoring points and not like he's going to lead us.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Don LaGreca]

Lead us to the Super Bowl.

[Alan Hahn]

But isn't that one of the reasons why, like, you know, articles are very different than hearing audio and, you know, we can go crazy as the media sometimes be like, can you believe X, Y and Z? And then when you hear it, you go, oh, well, he's not actually. Doesn't sound like he was saying that much. However, it still did spawn a great conversation because we misinterpreted it. We thought he meant going all the way, which is what led to our home run conversation and the base comp.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm. I'm all for it. I'm almost disappointed that we. We discovered this only 10 minutes into the show. Really could have used another 40 minutes of figuring out what first and second and third is.

[Alan Hahn]

It's just tough to talk. How long can we talk about it without saying what it is? You know what I mean? Challenge.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think everybody knows what we're talking about. I think you.

[Don LaGreca]

Honestly, Peter, you deserve this should be some of the war.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

Because people now know what we're talking.

[Alan Hahn]

I think so.

[Don LaGreca]

Did not get himself in any trouble.

[Alan Hahn]

We weren't even close down. I didn't even flirt with the line. Like, we didn't even get near it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was really throw it out to the group. If callers call in and suggest what they think for a second and third, is that on us?

[Alan Hahn]

No, but, Alan, we can't. They still have to stay within the.

[Anthony]

No, it's on you. It's on me.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's Anthony. And again, that'll be the second time in a row because Don showed yesterday he has zero respect for Anthony as a human being and a producer. The question is now, would.

[Don LaGreca]

What did I do?

[Alan Hahn]

Would Alan also show that he has no respect for Anthony by getting him fired? By suggesting callers call up and suggest sexual scenarios on the show?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I didn't say.

[Alan Hahn]

As the only person who respects Anthony. I'm gonna. I'm gonna shoot that down.

[Don LaGreca]

But while we're on it, how did I disrespect you, Anthony?

[Alan Hahn]

I was even age.

[Don LaGreca]

I wasn't even age.

[Anthony]

I know. I found out through Peter.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he's the only one who didn't find out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he's the only one who didn't

[Alan Hahn]

forget a call from you. Yeah, People were getting texts, people were getting phone calls.

[Don LaGreca]

The only person there were two people I let know. My boss. And it's his job to let it trickle down. It was. I was on the road and then John said something about Peter taking a different day. And I text Peter, I apologize. I wasn't sure. Did you make an adjustment to help me take Monday off?

[Alan Hahn]

That is not how you were it. I believe the text out of the blue was, did I screw you?

[Anthony]

And the only text I got was, why is Don texting me, asking me if I screw him? And I said, I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

What are you talking? So I text Anthony, don, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We can't talk about first, second, or third. But you talk about Don and it's not literal.

[Don LaGreca]

If you knew.

[Alan Hahn]

I didn't.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm sorry. I could have given a little bit more detail, but I figured you were just on the phone with John. Know what I was talking about?

[Alan Hahn]

No. No context. But I figured it out.

[Don LaGreca]

I text John saying, can I take the day on Monday? This was Saturday. I was in Carolina, was last minute. And then he said, sure, shouldn't be a problem. Peter was going to take Monday off, but he's going to take another day. So that's when I immediately text. Peter's like, did I screw you? Meaning? Like, is he doing that for me or was he doing it anyway? All right, listen, I could have given a little more detail, but.

[Alan Hahn]

No, the point is, no one reached out to Anthony, though, and. And he was the one who needed to know, so I decided you just don't respect what he does.

[Don LaGreca]

When did Anthony find out?

[Anthony]

When Peter texted me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, and that was.

[Don LaGreca]

And when was that?

[Anthony]

And then I texted John on Sunday night going, don off tomorrow. Oh, yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

I let my ball.

[Alan Hahn]

I got so. Oh, so that means maybe it's not that.

[Anthony]

Don't we have a whole chat with people in it?

[Alan Hahn]

Maybe it's that. Maybe it's. John doesn't respect you, Anthony.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is true. There is a group chat.

[Anthony]

Look, I'm well aware. I know that no one respects me. I'm well aware of all of this.

[Alan Hahn]

It's a great point.

[Anthony]

I've accepted it. No, no, I was just slightly hurt in the moment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You've won a couple of drop madness

[Anthony]

because people hate me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, that's not true.

[Don LaGreca]

People speak highly of you here at msg.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, my goodness. You gotta be.

[Anthony]

Terry's my guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Stick the amount of people that are excited. Hey, Jay, want to jump on Our call before say hi to you.

[Don LaGreca]

You left, so I apologize. I just thought that the wheels were in motion and then eventually you'd find out from my boy. I didn't realize I had to let everybody know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

I didn't leave, let my mom know that I would disrespect her, too.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know. Ask her. See how she feels about it.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Now. Now, there's a lot happening in the world. We talked about the New York Jets. We did not have you yesterday, Don, as we started getting into a subject that I'm sure you're thrilled about, which is the already brewing, depending how you want to look at it, simmering tensions between Juan Soto and Francisco Lindor, which may have taken another step last night.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, it seems like it's a thing now. I have read many books about the 70 Oakland Ace, the team that won three straight championships in 72, 73 and 74. And I read the Billy Martin book that those teams despised each other. And one of the things that they would do, like if they had a problem with Reggie and Reggie would hit a ground ball and you're at third, you know, maybe I'm not going to score. I'm not going to give an rbi. Now, that was all Clint Ace teams were great, and maybe they felt like they can make certain sacrifices. And I'm not saying that Lindor did that, and I'm not saying if Lindor did do that, that he would be right. But what I'm saying is for people to say baseball players don't do that. Oh, they do. Okay. They're vindictive and they've got their little ways of sticking it to one another. So I'm not saying he did it, but if there's an issue and there are lockers have been changed, and we certainly know the. The rumors that happened during the off season, that this is a thing, it's something to pay attention to and it clearly can be on the table. I don't think. I don't think it's off the table that the ballplayers could be that spiteful. So it's something to pay attention to,

[Peter Rosenberg]

the expense of your team?

[Don LaGreca]

Well, I don't think they're looking at it in that moment. They're looking at it as, I don't want to give him an rbi.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, the context of last night, because Peter and I did talk about this

[Don LaGreca]

yesterday, not Sunday, where he was throwing out at home.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. Because I wouldn't look like he was

[Don LaGreca]

trying to score because the game's all that's the game, but in the first inning and you eventually score anyway. Holds up at thirds on the table,

[Peter Rosenberg]

holds up a third. Anthony, you were describing the whole play, right, like it was infield, was, field, was.

[Anthony]

What's he. What's interesting about it is Lindor leads the game off with a triple. Now this is all happening while I'm on the train, but he leads the game off with a triple. And then you have the opportunity as Soto with the infield back, right. That if the infields back a ground ball would typically score a run. That didn't happen. Lindor doesn't go. Now whether that was the right or wrong call, I haven't seen the play in real time. Fine. But with the infield in, Bichette hits a ground ball. Lindor goes the run, scores. Luckily the second baseman bobbled it, otherwise he probably would have been out at home. But he doesn't go on the Soto ground ball with the infield back does go on the Bishop ground ball with the infield in without. It's just interesting, that's all. It's interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I did watch this back. It did not look weird. Now I will say that when they, they showed Soto, he kind of had like a look on his face walking back to the dugout. And I did see Lindor looking at him as he was walking to the dugout. There was that.

[Don LaGreca]

Now let me throw another element.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I didn't think it was again, it didn't look egregious. But now that everybody's brought our attention to it, we're all going to start watching everything.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, let me bring another level to this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right.

[Don LaGreca]

Tim Leaper is the new third base coach of the Mets.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Don LaGreca]

And he obviously was called on the carpet for Lindor getting thrown out on Sunday. The cost them at least tying the game in extra innings. End of the game. And many people, including the announcers with the Mets were questioning that send. And the argument has been the Mets are going to be very, very aggressive this year. And when Mendoza was asked in the pre game on Monday about the send, he's like, I'm all for it. That's the way it goes. We're gonna be very aggressive. We're gonna, we're gonna try to score. I don't mind. You know, obviously he didn't like the fact that he was thrown out. And we're gonna keep an eye on things. We scout these things, we know these things. We are always gonna err on the side of being aggressive. And the very next time you can be aggressive you're not. So there is definite fuel to the fact that he should have scored on that or at least tried to score on that. But again, I'm not saying it happened, but if you want to talk about it, there's enough there. And ball players have been known to do this. And to Allen's point about, well, would he do it in the expense of his team? It's the top of the first inning, so he's not thinking about it. Could cost a run. That can cost us. The game is like, hey, maybe I want to stick it to Soto, not give him an RBI here. It happens, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If that's really going on, and if

[Don LaGreca]

it's really going on, it is a major, major problem because these are two of the best players on the team. Honestly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, there was also, I guess, during introductions there, like, I. In the opener, it's like Lindor's doing handshakes with everybody, but with Soto, it was sort of just like a quick, you know, like, acknowledgement.

[Don LaGreca]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that's it. Look, Carlos Mendoza is the guy that's got to know that this is going on. Right? Like, whether they want to deny it publicly or not, if there's something happening between these two, I don't know. If it's a power struggle, I don't know. But the manager who's the closest to the players. Right?

[Don LaGreca]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's got to know that this exists. He's got to know. And if he does know, he's got to figure out how to get this thing right.

[Don LaGreca]

But how do you do it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Man, it's two guys making a ton of money.

[Don LaGreca]

Your Carlos Mendoza, your third year, your first three years as a manager.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Don LaGreca]

And it's two of the. Not only best players on the team, highest paid players on the team, that are going nowhere. So I'm not saying he can't do it, but you can understand the awkwardness, you know, the old days of managers benching guys, calling guys out in the media. That doesn't happen anymore. So I'm not saying he won't address it. I'm not saying he can't address it, but what can he do? Like, logically, what can you do? Because if in a perfect world, I'm the manager and I find out that my shortstop didn't score, I'm benching you. I'm getting. I'm calling you out. But can Carlos Mendoza do that?

[Alan Hahn]

And do that? That's a drop. Jacob, I know you're having a conversation. I need a note of Don just saying do that. It was Very special. Do that, do that, do that. Now, Don, have you seen the video from opening day of the. Of the greeting between Soto and Lindor?

[Don LaGreca]

No, because I was listening. I wasn't watching live. And I did not say go, go.

[Alan Hahn]

If you can get on the Twitter machine and search for it, it's. It's an. I will say, I thought it was like nothing. And then you watch the way they're dapping up everyone else.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's.

[Alan Hahn]

It's not great.

[Don LaGreca]

And listen, guys, I don't think it's that important that they like each other. And I don't think it matters if they hate each other, but if guys aren't scoring runs to stick it to them, now it's a problem. Now it's affecting the team.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes, that would be insane.

[Don LaGreca]

But. But liking each other. Alan will tell you. Was it. Was it the 77 or 78 or maybe both the Bronx, who. None of those Yankees like each other,

[Peter Rosenberg]

fought with each other, you know, and

[Don LaGreca]

the common denominator between them and the A's back in the early 70s was Reggie Jackson. I mean, there were people that just didn't like Reggie, you know, so that. But when you start getting in the way of run scoring, and I'm sorry, Mets could be good this year. They're not the. They're not the A's team that won three straight championships. They're not that good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I will say this. It's enough that even Buster only has talked about it.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the guys had them on this morning. So I would think, Peter, that it is definitely something we'd want to hear.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes, I agree.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

We shall. We'll hear that. We'll hear from Buster only. But right now we need to hear from Drop Madness, ladies and gentlemen. Now, you want to talk about matchups? Folks, this is. And Don, we figured out. I mean, we don't know what happened, but Friday, there was clearly a glitch because yesterday voting was at least back to normal. So Friday, something strange was going on. But you need to get on our Twitter or X, whatever you want to call it, DHR on espn. Because big dogs in action today. I'll play them over here. I have them. We'll start in the flub region. The one seed,

[Don LaGreca]

Don on a Rosenberg

[Alan Hahn]

with you until seven. So the one seed is Don coming back from commercial. It's up against the 4 seed, which is Don going to commercial on 880.

[Don LaGreca]

ESPN, New York and ESPN. We're so bad. Now think hard before you vote.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

Because both are quality. Both to move on.

[Alan Hahn]

But it's such a great point. This could be very close. So that's what's going on in the flub region. We go to the funny region. The one seed. A little yo, yo, monkey boy. He wanted me to jump up and make the jokey, jokey. So the people go, laugh time. Up against the four seed.

[Don LaGreca]

Get him away from the cake. Somebody get him away from the cake. This should be a hundred or nothing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Vape, April.

[Alan Hahn]

Crushing the cake. That's how you feel.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The cake is good, but it's not.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. It's not a special dog drop. It's not a joke joke. You make the people go, laugh time. No, words like that. You don't get those every day. The one seed in the troubling region has an interesting matchup. I had diarrhea that you dream about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

See Anthony's. Oh, yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

So good.

[Alan Hahn]

Up against. Very spry, a very game. A very dangerous 12 seed. That's right. Diarrhea versus pound it. That's a hell of a matchup.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Two things you never want to come.

[Alan Hahn]

And then could be. It could be a long day for little Marco.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, no.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's right. Little Mark. Yeah, I know. I'm gonna. I'm gonna play you some interesting stuff about this, by the way, but this is obviously. This is a great drop that we all feel strongly about in the nether region. It's been a valiant effort so far for the youngster. The 13 seed is, however, it.

[Don LaGreca]

Remember, this is a child on Christmas, by the way.

[Alan Hahn]

So literally, file that away. Yeah. Again, you're not tipping. Ladon James isn't tipping the scales.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm just giving you some backstory.

[Alan Hahn]

No, just giving you backstory. But it's up against the one seed. This is college football.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh. Oh, this is tough.

[Alan Hahn]

Football

[Peter Rosenberg]

always gets me. But this is. You have to think about it. This is a child filled with joy and a man almost dying.

[Alan Hahn]

That's right. Both sides of life. Now, people weighed in on this this morning. Here's. Here's Chris Garland, Don's son, I'm sure, is a lovely kid with a bright future in front of him. Future voice of the New Jersey Devils, clearly. I'm gonna mop the floor with this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Don LaGreca]

He's not wrong.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, Dan Grassa waited as well.

[Don LaGreca]

It's not even comparable.

[Alan Hahn]

Holy canoli.

[Don LaGreca]

He didn't almost die.

[Alan Hahn]

Another great take.

[Don LaGreca]

He almost died.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, he was so happy.

[Don LaGreca]

He was getting a PS5. It was. It was the biggest moment of his life.

[Alan Hahn]

It's a big deal. And it was always the biggest moment of Carlin's life. All right, you can vote right now. Dhron, ESPN on Twitter, get your votes in. Drop madness underway.

[Don LaGreca]

And we can file this under too much information, but as you can tell, I've got a sinus infection. All right? So.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can't tell.

[Don LaGreca]

Got a lot?

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Don LaGreca]

Is it bad?

[Alan Hahn]

No. You sound great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that's why I'm locked in a soundproof room with you.

[Don LaGreca]

So I've had different antibiotics and stuff. So I, I did experience one day what, what Peter's, you know, dreaming about in his. And I gotta tell you, it's all I thought about.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, geez, hold on. You're saying every day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't.

[Alan Hahn]

So you're saying every day you were sitting there by yourself, you were thinking, I had diarrhea. That you dream about. Did you hear Anthony going?

[Don LaGreca]

No. No. That's the difference.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There was no Anthony.

[Don LaGreca]

There was no Anthony.

[Anthony]

I said lack of respect.

[Alan Hahn]

I had diarrhea. No, that you dream about.

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[Alan Hahn]

Jump. Why? Why Crisscross Jump today? Jacob?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. What happened on this day in 92?

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, wow.

[Don LaGreca]

Music ended. Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

To another bad little fat. I'm the mech and I'm bad. Give me. I'm the exact same age as Crisscross. Let me tell you something. I was of course too good for this, Don. So when it came out and I was 13 years old and everyone was like in love with it, the other 13, 13 year olds, I was always

[Don LaGreca]

kind of like, whatever.

[Alan Hahn]

Crisscross lame. But in retrospect, it is one of those things that happens in time that's so big, but over time just does not carry the same weight. Like when I was like, do you even. Don, do you remember Crisscross at all?

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, I remember because they had. They wore their clothes backwards.

[Alan Hahn]

There you go.

[Don LaGreca]

And I believe this is going to sound so corny. I believe there was a video, one of them had a devil jersey on.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

So I was like, who is this? And then about 15 years ago, it had a bit of a rebirth. In the movie Friends With Benefits. Justin Timberlake, remember? Yeah. The song was in there and it kind of had a rebirth. So I was familiar, I knew the song. But I was gonna ask you, as somebody that is in deep into hip hop as you are, do you laugh at stuff like that? Is that like, joke to you?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, they're weird because that song itself was like very much a kid song. Like Jump was the biggest song at every middle school dance in the world. Like, guess what? Everyone did. You're not gonna believe this.

[Don LaGreca]

They jumped.

[Alan Hahn]

They jumped. They jumped up and down the entire song. Jump. Jump. With your hands straight out in the air. You jump, you jump. Now they did have a couple of other really good songs at some point. Humor me, Jacob. Come back with all right. All right by Crisscross featuring Super Cat is actually a great song. So they were Jermaine Dupree's first group, these. These little kids from Atlanta that he discovered, he became one of the biggest producers in music, but they were sort of like Justin Bieber was Scooter Braun's foray into music. Crisscross was Jermaine Dupree's foray into music and went on to do much more.

[Don LaGreca]

I. I'd have to think about it, but there's. There could be a top five of songs named Jump. It's a very popular I gotta tell you song.

[Alan Hahn]

Apparently, based on that information, people love to jump. Because you're right. There's. People are jumping, they're jumping around. They're jumping up and down.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

Like, not just Jump, but, like, jump around. That. That's a completely different song than the Crisscross.

[Alan Hahn]

That's right. Same exact. By the way, within one year, though, they're like, in the exact same era. People were jumping up a storm at that time.

[Don LaGreca]

And then. People love Jump by Van Halen. I thought it was the death of the band.

[Alan Hahn]

Alan, where do you stand on. On Jump by Van Halen?

[Don LaGreca]

Where do you stand on Jump by Van Halen?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Allen Jump. Oh, that's so much better. Although it looks weird. Jump by Van Halen I liked for about a month, and then I'm like, I'm good.

[Don LaGreca]

I might have wept when I first started.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You were. You were saddened.

[Don LaGreca]

I. It was a big deal. It's 1983, December 31st, going into 1984, which, ironically, was the name of the album, the album Van Halen had coming out with single Jump.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Don LaGreca]

And they were releasing the video at midnight, New Year's Day on mtv.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

And I saw the video and I heard the synthesizer, and I'm like, I'm out. They did to me. They died. They. They absolutely died.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you listen to Diver down, you knew it was coming.

[Don LaGreca]

You knew it was coming, but I didn't want to see it happen. It was the same experience I felt when Judas Priest had Turbo Lover. I'm like, what is going on here?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Sign of the times.

[Don LaGreca]

But they did win me back a little bit with Hot for Teacher, because that is a really good song.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But Panama, too.

[Don LaGreca]

Jump made me sick to my stomach.

[Alan Hahn]

It's so funny, but I do you. When you hear it, to this day, does it still make you sick?

[Don LaGreca]

No. Now I kind of.

[Alan Hahn]

You can enjoy the sound of it.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm not as territorial as I was back in the day when it came to music.

[Alan Hahn]

Sure.

[Don LaGreca]

So I can appreciate it. I still don't think it's a great song.

[Alan Hahn]

What is it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it met to you? Like, it's like. Yeah, but it's fine.

[Don LaGreca]

The thing about Van Halen, you know what? The Van Halen found a way to be hard. Not metal, but to be hard rock. ACDC ended up doing a little bit later on where they were heavy, but not too heavy, where they got airplay. They got the recognition they deserved. They were really good, gritty, heavy band and jumps. Not that, man. That's not their core. That's not who they're about.

[Alan Hahn]

It's very. It's very flossy, it's glossy.

[Don LaGreca]

And it did usher in the Van Hagar era, which was, let's face it, the. From. I'm sure, from a monetary standpoint, their greatest time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's true.

[Don LaGreca]

But that's not the Van Halen I know.

[Alan Hahn]

No, not the Van Halen you love.

[Don LaGreca]

And you probably felt the same way. Like from a hip hop version, like, that's a cute little song for kids.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's not. It's not anything. By the way, Jacob with a good pole. Destiny's Child. Jumping. Jumping as well. Jump up. Jump up on it. Apache, jump up on it.

[Don LaGreca]

Right. Then you got Jumping Jack Flash by Roll the Rolling Stones.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are we doing jump songs here?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, there's a lot of songs with jump.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I walked into jump songs.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. I missed out. I had an opportunity to do the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you mention that one?

[Alan Hahn]

Peter Rosenberg, Don legreca and Chair Don. And I missed.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, there was. There was an hour. You could tell. Peter was so good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Couldn't wait.

[Alan Hahn]

I know. I didn't know what's happening.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I provided that for you.

[Alan Hahn]

No, I didn't. I didn't.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, you didn't know? No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, go back.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't know if you can.

[Alan Hahn]

I just thought Alan was the most silent he'd ever been.

[Don LaGreca]

Let Peter appreciate it. Yeah. You know, so. I know. I know. You're way behind. Just what it looks like to just. Just see the chair. Oh, because Peter doesn't know because he's usually the one that makes the chair empty.

[Alan Hahn]

That's correct.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Three in the big city with Don McGregor and a chair turned out to

[Alan Hahn]

be a better drop that you'd even expect.

[Don LaGreca]

Take a look on Wednesday. It'll probably be up there on your YouTube, but take a look, Peter. That's what it looks like when you're late, but you let it go. So I guess you're a better teammate.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, no, that's. I'm a real teammate now. You want to hear Don, you being the Italian member of the family here.

[Don LaGreca]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

How do you feel about me and. Me and Alan spending a lot of time on this joke? Oh, no. And it just got deleted as. No, literally, this was the moment that Jacob was clearing yesterday's drop.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, come on.

[Alan Hahn]

But you don't need a drop to even do it.

[Aaron Glenn (clip)]

That.

[Alan Hahn]

We just. We were referring to the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We were going about coaches like, who is it?

[Alan Hahn]

I'm going to do the calipari. He's having the patina. And we made them Italian dishes. The fried calipari and the baked patina.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Baked patino.

[Don LaGreca]

I like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then we had. What was that? You're going to have a bottle of messimino.

[Alan Hahn]

No, the grilled is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The grilled is.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No. What was the one that was sent to you that was better than Massimino? Oh, oh, carneseca.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that's right.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is not baked. It's something Carneseca.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. They might be a fried carneseca.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That wasn't fried. No, but it was something. Yeah, yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

To do that. No, that's. That's cute, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's adorable.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We had more fun with it than Don.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, because I, I know this. This is definitely making the rounds and it's off the conversation we were just having a few minutes ago in the previous segment about the Soto Lindor thing. And we do have Buster only who was on with the the guys this morning. This thing's popping. Here you go. It's on social media and it's getting a lot of attention. So here it is.

[Alan Hahn]

You want to hear the buster?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Here's what Buster.

[Buster Olney]

Not to the point where, you know, I Could say to you, yeah, they like each other. They don't like each other. I've never seen anything with my own eyes that make that suggest to me that, you know, that these guys have a problem that's going to prevent them from playing. Do I think they're warm and fuzzy? No, I don't. I've seen, you know, Brett Gardner and Aaron Boone, Aaron Judge, for example, really close. And you could see that in the way they responded to each other. I thought, Pete, you know, with different guys on the team, you could see the way they responded to him. They're really close. I don't think Lindor and Soto are close. It's interesting to me that in the Mets clubhouse this year, and I've not been to Citi Field this year, but from what I understand, they move Soto's locker to the opposite end from where Lindor is. Right. I don't know why that is end.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How about that part? What do we think of this? Moving locker rooms to the opposite end? What does that tell you?

[Don LaGreca]

No, they can't stand. They don't like each other and that's fine. Not everybody's got to like each other. Heck, you know, Keith Hernandez and Darryl Strawberry got to a fight on picture day. A physical brawl. Now, I don't think they hated each other, but at least in that moment they came to blows. I don't think you have to like each other. But if it is ever going to get to the point where we can sit here and have a conversation that maybe Lindor didn't try to score because he wanted to take an RBI away from Soto, then it's a problem. But I don't think they have to like each other and sing Kumbaya. There's no way that 26 guys can all love each other equally. It's all garbage. You know, when you win a championship is all. We loved each and stop it. There's always somebody you don't like. There's always somebody resent, somebody you think that you're better than, but yet they're making more money or their wife's hotter or, you know, you. You disrespected me in some interview. Like there's always that little back and forth there. He's egos, right? These are, these are mega stars. These are what, the top like 750 people to play the sport on the entire planet. And they're all together and there's no way that they are all just going to get along. But if there is a problem where it's affecting the Outcome where they have to be separated. In the locker room where you heard rumors during the offseason, there were conversations about it that maybe there were actual. There was. There were moves made because there was a chemistry problem in that locker room.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's true.

[Don LaGreca]

Now, the reason that Lindor and Soto are still here, because they're not going anywhere. They're too good, and their contracts are locked in. But am I. Am I wrong, Peter? Am I a troublemaker to speculate that maybe the guys that were gone took a side in this whole thing, and then maybe that disrupted the chemistry? Because I know human nature is going to tell you, if me and Alan aren't getting along with each other for some reason, I'd like to try to win Peter over over in this little debate. And then maybe Alan's gonna try to win over Anthony and I'm gonna try to win over. Right. You know, you're just gonna be like, I can't believe he said that. And next thing you know, you've got a room of Lindor guys and Soto guys, and now you've got a problem. So it's something to keep an eye on, for sure.

[Alan Hahn]

I wish that people. And this is easier said than done, okay? Because I know I've been in ego situations before, but you wish you could say to someone like, hey, Soto, you're the, you know, you're the better ball player, but Francisco Lindor, you are the leader of this team, and you're both vitally important. Can't, like, can't everyone just. People can't step outside themselves and see that, like, Soto might be a little bit better a player than me, but I am a quiet guy. This is my team. Like, we can both exist.

[Don LaGreca]

So.

[Alan Hahn]

And by the way, Soto is not a true leader. He's not going to lead. And, and, and for. And Francisco Lindor isn't gonna wake up and be able to mash like Juan Soto. Like, I wish they could just see that and maybe not have to have their egos clashes, but clash. But that's not how people in the moment are. That's how human beings are.

[Don LaGreca]

We're just guessing what the issues could be. But I would know that if I'm a leader on the team, and I think clearly anybody that watches knows that Lindor is a leader. Can you lead if the. If you don't get along with the best player on the team?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, it's. That's also about how you lead. It could be a sign that Lindor may be as flawed as a leader, because a leader should know how to try to handle everybody and maybe even understand, like, hey, this guy's egos a certain way. He gets paid a certain amount of money. We brought him in here because we need him to get to the next level and you have to handle it accordingly. Maybe he's not built for quick time out.

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, this is a good one. This was. This was when Super Cat comes in at the beginning. It's fantastic. It's great.

[Don LaGreca]

You use all the jump songs coming in now. Tons of them.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. If you've never spent any time with the crisscross Super Cat. All right. Vehicle, strong truck. There's a great remix too that I think it's like basically just Super Cat. It's awesome.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's funny. At the beginning I thought it was LL Cool J.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, that's right because he used the. For the cars that be bumping. Well, guys, what's the, what's the, what's the big popping sound that's happening over there every once in a while? Is one of you doing something I

[Don LaGreca]

gotta know, I. I brought the cough button with me because

[Peter Rosenberg]

you can't. Yeah, push.

[Alan Hahn]

Push it again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don, I don't have the heart to tell him.

[Alan Hahn]

Push it. Oh, it's loud. No, it's bad. It's like.

[Don LaGreca]

Goodbye. Get away from me. I was hoping you wouldn't hear.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're in my space. I let you in here.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, no.

[Alan Hahn]

Now he's. Oh, I think you coughing may be better.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I agree.

[Alan Hahn]

Those are the buttons working, but it sounds like we're nearly going off the air every time.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't know what to do about it.

[Alan Hahn]

You just turn away and put your hand up and see how it goes. All right, guys, let's see. How about a little game time? Brought to you by Telemore Duage Whiskey. Because when it's game time, it's toy time. It's all the time.

[Don LaGreca]

I like that.

[Alan Hahn]

Very busy tonight, Don. I'm glad you said that. A very busy night for the locals. Programming note. We're off at 6:30 for Rangers pregame and starting at 7. Rangers Devils can only be heard one place, and that's the ESPN New York app. All right, that is the only place to hear it. Download the ESPN New York app so you're ready for tonight's 7pm puck drop. Not a pock drip.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep, why not?

[Alan Hahn]

It's Rangers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I dare them.

[Don LaGreca]

Hawk drip. Sounds like the last symptom of death.

[Alan Hahn]

It's Rangers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It got bad. He had pock drip. That's how we knew it was over.

[Don LaGreca]

Come see dad. Hurry. He's got poc drip.

[Alan Hahn]

It's Oregon Trail disease.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Father Flanagan's coming to administer last rites.

[Alan Hahn]

James had dysentery. James has died. That's the worst when you're playing Oregon Trail and someone gets dysentery and you're hoping they come back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It'd be great though, if it was. James has dysentery. Peter has pock drip.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. By the way, I'm writing someone right now. I'm not kidding. I am going to send a text message to somebody. How has SNL never done a skit about the creative meeting at whatever company came up with Oregon Trail? How did they sit in a room and suggest this is the idea for the video game we're going to play? The kids are going to love this. They're setting out west. They're riding in a wagon. What's the goal of Oregon Trail?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't die.

[Alan Hahn]

It's just to make it somewhere and not die.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, guess what? You died.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Your land.

[Don LaGreca]

No, it was. It Was obviously somebody like, you know, these kids need to learn that back in the day you weren't guaranteed the next day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don LaGreca]

The sacrifices that people made. So you can be in Oregon.

[Alan Hahn]

You don't know what Oregon.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just get to Oregon.

[Alan Hahn]

And by the way, are there people from Oregon who never played Oregon Trail? That's probably not now.

[Anthony]

It's just trail.

[Alan Hahn]

It's just trail to them. It's like. You mean it's like having Chinese food in China or it's food. Or when people go to. When people go to an Indian restaurant is my favorite. Can I have the naan bread? I'm like, you realize you're saying the bread. Bread to these people. The naan is bread, folks. That is bread.

[Buster Olney]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can I get the Formaggio cheese?

[Alan Hahn]

The cheesy cheese. Okay, so Rangers hockey only on the app tonight. That's the only. That is only the ESPN New York apples. Right now. The Mets continue their series with the Cardinals coverage on 880 at 7. The Knicks and the Rockets with coverage on 1050 at 7:30.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not the Rockettes.

[Alan Hahn]

The Isles. The Isles. And the Sabres in Buffalo at 7:30. Don, on second thought, use the button. The Nets host The Hornets at 7:30. And the Yankees. Good God, this is a long game. Time. And the Yankees continue their series with The Mariners at 9:40. Tulla Mordue. The original triple distilled, triple blended and triple cast matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tullamore Dew and try the new Tully Mordew. Honey. During today's action. Glasses up to enjoying. Tell them or do responsibly. We have a million phone calls to get to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Great.

[Alan Hahn]

But we just covered Oregon Trail.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And all the game time. So I want to save the calls for four o'. Clock. Is that okay with you guys?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds good. I just can't believe since we open with it, how much this, this Aaron Glenn Promised land quote that is literally out of context. As we played you the whole quote. How many people are just mocking it? Going to town. I did. But when you hear the whole thing, like people didn't understand.

[Don LaGreca]

How could you? When you hear it, the whole thing

[Peter Rosenberg]

tells you that he's not talking about the promised land, meaning the Super Bowl. He's talking about something like, like, hey, let's just get in the end zone. Wouldn't that be a concept?

[Don LaGreca]

There's also something unreal how many people really are taking.

[Alan Hahn]

And that's why we're professional. And that's why we're professionals.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I'm gonna delete my tweet so I can.

[Alan Hahn]

You should, because we talked about doing it. We talked all about doing this. And then to be honest, guys, we got to the air, we played the clip and went, sorry, not a lot there. Let's move on to Soto.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, you're not wrong. We all thought, right? We all agree, like, this is a nothing burger, but apparently it is filet mignon on everywhere else.

[Don LaGreca]

There's. There's a message to this, too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't get it.

[Don LaGreca]

That I think he's trying to convey which people are missing.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, oh, are you teasing that for later?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a tease.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, Don, last thing before we take the break and talk to the people on the other side, I just want to ask you, did you consume because you were not here for our discussion of one of the great finishes in basketball history. Did you consume the Duke Collapse and Yukon Come back live or you missed it and see it?

[Don LaGreca]

I couldn't watch it live because I was on the air with Devil's hockey. I was Devil's Blackhawks, but I was told from Al. I had a conversation with Al on the way home because I wanted to set everything up here for our show that he said, just go back, watch the last five minutes.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow. Wow is right. Unbelievable.

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[Don LaGreca]

Did you say someone got shot? Brian Pata, senior defensive lineman from Miami,

[Alan Hahn]

gunned down the key to this case.

[Don LaGreca]

It's Brian.

[Alan Hahn]

An hour before he died, he was on the phone arguing with somebody. This might be a hit. You want the truth? They just want a conviction.

[Don LaGreca]

Being placed under arrest.

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