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Don LaGreca
Don, I'll be licking the television screen. Licking it like it's ice cream.
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Alan Hahn
Han. Oh, the type of music I listen to would make you cry.
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Peter Rosenberg
And Rosenberg, I expect to be called ball coach.
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Don LaGreca
This isn't North Dakota, this is New York.
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Peter Rosenberg
This is Don Hahn and Rosenberg on 8 80, ESPN and the ESPN New York app.
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Alan Hahn
All right. Better late than never, right, fellas?
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Don LaGreca
Sweet. Yes.
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Alan Hahn
With Don Lagreche and Peter Rosenberg. I'm Alan Howe.
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Don LaGreca
We're here.
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Alan Hahn
Yes. We have the Mets of so as spring training games begin, we're going to have Mets coverage. And as will happen at times when there's afternoon games, we're going to have to wait our turn. And so here we are.
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Kay
Well, by the way, there's a really great piece of news, though, as a result of us having the delayed start. Get ready, everybody. You are getting a hot piping 6:00 ENN today. How do you like them apples, baby?
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Don LaGreca
Like you dream about making great again.
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Kay
Tell you we're going to make it great today. Six o'clock.
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Alan Hahn
All right. So look forward certainly to that, guys. I, I, I begin the show today with a heavy heart. It was tough news that I did receive last night and I posted about it. And obviously it's been something that everybody has seen now at this point. But a dear friend of mine and someone that we all know love and respect in this business, Al Trotwig, a voice that, of course, anybody that has grown up in New York sports can recognize from various sports, whether you're a Yankees fan in the 90s when they were on MSG, a Knicks fan or a Rangers fan or a gymnastics fan or somebody that watched hockey on USA Network back in the day, and then many other things, Olympics coverage and whatnot. He passed away yesterday, just a few days short of his 69th birthday, which would be Wednesday. And so, you know, we'll talk more and give a tribute to Al and everything that he has meant to me as a friend and a mentor. But everything is meant to New York sports, of course, throughout the show. But, you know, just wanted to acknowledge somebody that I think a lot of people from our generation that have followed sports in New York would definitely resonate with you, but just understand that with me today. And I got to admit, guys, I've had a little too much of this lately.
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Kay
Yeah.
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Alan Hahn
So just understand like it is, it is a tough day. But as I know he would have said to me, you got a blanking show to do. Right. Just, just get to work.
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Don LaGreca
Yeah.
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Alan Hahn
That's literally what he would do. So that's what we're going to do.
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Kay
Yeah, we're going to. We'll spend some time on his career later because, man, he is a giant when it comes to New York sports. So, Alan, I'm sorry for you. I know you have a long history with him. I know Kay has a long history with. Al's talked about him quite a bit. And frankly, our audience has a long history. If you're the kind of person who listens to this radio show in New York, you also have a relationship through the airwaves with Al Trotwick. So we'll definitely talk about that as the day goes on.
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Alan Hahn
Right. And, you know, for on that light or in that light, I guess the first thing we do need to discuss, and I need to backtrack something that I said Friday, Don.
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Don LaGreca
Okay.
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Alan Hahn
When you and I were doing the show and we were discussing the Knicks weekend, that was to come Friday night in Cleveland, Saturday after Sunday afternoon in Boston. And I was like, you know, I'm not putting too much into this. That's what I was saying on Friday, because I thought, you know, even if, win or lose, whatever, like, I wasn't really expecting a lot. And after the weekend, I gotta. I gotta tell you, I'm. I gotta reverse my take. And I gotta tell you that I think alarms should be going off right now in the Nick front office after what you saw this weekend, because it does make you feel like, why does this team not show you enough fight in these types of games when both Cleveland and Boston clearly treated these matchups with the Knicks as some sort of statement or some sort of, okay, this team's coming for us. We got to let them feel it. And they certainly did. They got. They were down 27 at the half on Friday. They were down 21 at the half on Sunday. They put up a little bit of a fight, at least Sunday in the third quarter. But, you know, I can't just sit back and keep watching these performances against Boston, a team you were built to beat, and just say to myself, like, all is well. I would be concerned if I was in the front office of the Knicks, and I would wonder to myself, did we build this team the right way? And do we still have to consider some other things, dramatic things, if we want to be a team that over the next couple of years can contend legitimately, contend for teams?
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Don LaGreca
No, it's a great point. It really is. And I know they were banged up, but OG Came back in time for the Cavs game, and I know the CAVs were the second of back to backs, but completely blown away. I mean, 143 points, four dunks in.
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Alan Hahn
The first four positions.
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Don LaGreca
Joke. All right. And then again, short Turnaround for the 1:00 tip on Sunday. But that's the Celtics you haven't been able to beat again on national television. Again, embarrassed. Yeah, they did fight back and what? Cut it to four, Got it to four. But then it takes so much energy to do that and then the next thing you blink, you're down 20 again and it's non competitive and it's not what you want. So I can understand Nick Fan being in a way right now you're not playing any defense. You just wonder were you better off last year? Like you have people wondering was the trade worth it before they dodged a bullet. Because I thought Kat was done then it looked bad.
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Kay
It looked really. In the moment.
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Alan Hahn
It looked bad. It looked bad. But when he's checking back in, right.
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Don LaGreca
Then you felt better.
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Alan Hahn
And Tom Thibodore after the game was asked about it. Like, you know, because the first thing they do is say, what is this guy doing? Why are you putting him back in the game? And Tibbs response is he said he was fine. And you think they don't know the player by now.
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Don LaGreca
Right. That's why I felt when he came back. But when he left, I'm like, oh no.
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Alan Hahn
Oh yeah.
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Don LaGreca
This is a disaster.
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Kay
It felt like either way, Don, no matter how you cut it, 07 against Boston, Cleveland and OKC is not what you want.
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Don LaGreca
Right. And most of those games non competitive.
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Alan Hahn
You don't think 37 and 13 versus 26 other teams is a good thing.
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Don LaGreca
I'm just kidding.
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Kay
But by the way, it is. That is, that is a good thing.
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Alan Hahn
I'm joking.
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Kay
But you got to be able to beat the guys at the top.
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Don LaGreca
But now you got the questions and Alan's the best person to answer. He's there every single day. But you can understand if we get phone calls today saying were they just better off leaving the team the way it was.
- [06:31]
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Look, it's a very fair thing that you now open up and allow yourself to start to wonder. And I don't know which one you would say it about because I've seen more pushback about Mikhail Bridges than I have about car Anthony Towns. Because Towns is an all star 25 and he's still at 18. Rebound. Like he's still. I know his defense is horrific, but.
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Don LaGreca
You know that coming in.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, yeah.
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Don LaGreca
We felt like Bridges was more of a complete player.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah. And he's very inconsistent and I think, I think more fans are frustrated with him than they are with Towns. And so that's the trade that when they made it, it's the five first round picks. And I try to tell everybody, don't look at it as five. Like, these are not five unprotected firsts that are all going to be lottery picks. When you see how they're connected and what teams are connected to, these are not like super value, but it's first round picks. There's a value to them just as currency. So when you, when you look at it and you on paper say, wait, you added Bridges. You're. You should be better on paper. But then you watch Day to Day and you see there are some games where he looks magnificent and there's other games when it's like, okay, they're taking Brunson out of the game. Towns is not. Really doesn't have it going. Somebody's got to just take over. And everybody just stares at him saying, okay, you're supposed to be that third guy that now when everybody thinks they've shut down the two big pieces, the two all stars, the third guy just starts lighting up whoever is guarding him. And you don't always get that from Bridges. And I think that's. I think there's a greater frustration from fans towards him than there is towards Karl Anthony Town. So when you ask which trade was. Was the trade worth it, Don? I wonder if the response would be which one are you talking about?
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Kay
Because you can't allow, you can't allow a couple of bad games against great teams to sour you on the Karl Anthony Towns deal. He has been the guy.
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Alan Hahn
His numbers have been really good this year.
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Don LaGreca
Get in the zone, Auto zone.
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AutoZone
Welcome to the A to Z savings event at AutoZone. Yeah, happy to be here. Can I get some rot? Would you like brake pads with that? How much are the brake pads free with the rotors?
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Alan Hahn
Free.
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AutoZone
Really, really free.
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Alan Hahn
Okay.
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AutoZone
I also need some oil. Would you like an oil filter with that?
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Alan Hahn
Yeah.
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AutoZone
How much is that free with five quarts of oil?
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Alan Hahn
Free.
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AutoZone
Really, really free. It's part of the A to Z savings event. You might as well call it A to free at autozone.
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Don LaGreca
Get in the zone.
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AutoZone
Autozone restrictions apply, by the way, even.
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Kay
In some of those losses. He's been good. I don't think he can be the thing you're frustrated with. I think Bridges, guys, he was the guy who. We don't even know what that guy's ceiling's going to be once he got gets here.
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Alan Hahn
I always thought he was. He was the one player in the NBA that has never been an all Star that like, could as close to an all Star as you can get without ever being named to one. And his numbers, 17 points a game, you know, 49% shooting, 36 from three. Like, his numbers don't look terrible. But the eye test, when you watch, you just say to yourself, there's certain games like, again, Cleveland's a great example. Like Bud, like, you got to step up here. You know, the Boston game, he kind of got numbers late all of a sudden. Just had a flurry of shots late in the game that suddenly turned what was a quiet game into, oh, you know, he had a pretty decent game. But if you're watching carefully, like I said, that's the one that I think a lot of people would say, if you could take one of the moves from the offseason away, which one would you take away? I don't think it's Carl Anthony Town.
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Don LaGreca
I don't think it's.
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Alan Hahn
It's. It's Julius Randle for Karl Anthony Towns. I think it's the picks for, for Bridges. And that's. That's a concern because that was supposed to be the big steal, the big get. And over the last six games, he's not even getting the 12 points a game. And that's not a good sign.
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Kay
No.
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Don LaGreca
And, and also did they lose a little of themselves with those deals? I'm with you. If the one you're going to question is Bridges over Cat, you could see Kat special. You kind of knew coming in he wasn' going to be an A plus defender. But what the Knicks are about, what Thibodeau is about, is hard defensive basketball. And now you've turned yourself into Showtime where they're a superior offensive team. But it did a little soul go out the window, Alan, for like what this team was known for, what their coach was known for, and really how you win championships in this league kind of made them special. So I'm not one of those people, Alan, that would not have done it because I do think it's a relatively small sample size. Over time, I think you're gonna see that it was worth it. But right now, after the momentum you built last year, where the general feeling was if we were healthy, we'd go to the conference final, we would have given Boston a tussle to. Now you kind of change the soul of the team. And now you can't beat Boston, you can't beat Cleveland, and there's just a general feeling that you're really no better than you were last year. Because when it's all over, can you really expect. Expect this team to get beyond the second round?
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Alan Hahn
That's a great way to put it. When you say like the. The soul, right? The soul of the team. Did you lose something of. Out of the soul of that team because they were a hard playing team, a physical team. I share a couple of things. The first one is you brought up the, you know, they. If they were healthy, they would have got to the final four. I have heard this from more than one person. This is. Multiple people over the last couple of months have said this. So it's not like right out of the gate. It's more of like a reflection on the Knicks this year, is there are people in Boston, they were, they were relieved when the Knicks didn't beat the Pacers. When they saw the Pacers coming in, they were like, we got this. They weren't worried about the Pacers. They did not want to face because they knew the Celtics had not really been tested in the playoffs yet. And they were worried about the test that the Knicks would have given them because of how hard they played so they didn't have to face them. They get to the finals, they win the championship, they get over the hump. Now they look at the Knicks and they're like, you guys, not even close to us. Like, you saw the way they treated them in the first quarter. They looked at them like, you can't guard any of this stuff. Like, they were so supremely confident against the Knicks that it almost looked like the Knicks were the opposite where they had no confidence. So that's one thing. But I will say this. Something's going on with this team over the last month that I have noticed that is missing that grit that everybody fell in love with. Because I do know that the Thunder, when they played them in Oklahoma City, all the chatter. I called that game on msg, all the chatter after that game was just how physical that game was, how hard the Knicks play against you, how tough they are to play against. That's what they all said after that game. The Thunder, there was a game against Memphis at the Garden. All they talked about after that game was just how hard the Knicks play, how physical they are, how they're allowed to play physical. And you have to raise your game. Michael Malone with Denver, when the Knicks smoked them, said the same thing. They play physical, they play hard. We didn't match their physicality. So this notion that the Knicks are Soft this year is not necessarily true to say lately they've been soft. That's true. And the numbers tell you so. I don't know what's happening right now with this team, but it isn't a good trend. And they're now 20th in the league in defense. 20th. That's not a Tom Thibodeau team. That's not typical of his team. And I don't know if just the addition of Mitchell Robinson is going to make that dramatic of a difference. So the reality that I think we're learning about this team is that they are a really good team, one of the best teams they've had in a quarter century, but they're not yet ready to be put in the conversation as a team that can win a championship. And now the question is, how the hell did I get there? When they are all the way up against the second apron, which is restrictive, it's almost like a hard cap. How the hell are they going to improve a team when there's no more moves to make?
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Kay
Yeah, well, this may be the moment of acceptance and just accepting that at this point, it's not the year for them. At the same time, it is hard, guys, because you never know when you have a coach like Thibodeau and you have the players with the kind of heart that this team has. There is a chance that the second we have this conversation, you look up in a month and they go to another gear and you're kind of like, wait a second. So it is hard. You know what I'm saying? Alan? If we put them to bed right now, a month from now, they may not be.
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Alan Hahn
Bridges gets going again and Anunoby gets back into rhythm. And Robinson returns, which I know Shams keeps teasing us about how any day now.
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Kay
I thought it was yesterday.
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Alan Hahn
Every report from Shams over the last two weeks has been. They expect him any moment now, but he hasn't played yet.
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Don LaGreca
So it could still change.
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Alan Hahn
It does feel like, yeah, it can turn. But right now you're 0 and 7 against the only teams above you in the standings. The only teams above you. You can't beat them. And until you can prove that, how can anyone believe that you can go all the way, at least to me. We've all said this Final Four, right? We all agree.
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Kay
Final Four, that was what we all said.
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Alan Hahn
And then house money after that. And I still don't know how they get there when you consider their second round matchup would be Boston.
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Don LaGreca
And let's also realize that when we put final four or bust. @ the beginning of the season, the assumption was Boston would be the one seed. You'd face Boston in the conference final and lose. If you had known going into the season that Boston might be the two and you'd face them in the second round, I don't know if it would be final four or bust, but you.
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Alan Hahn
Don'T wanna get swept in the second round.
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Don LaGreca
It all depends on how it looks. But I think you've been saying it from the very beginning. It's too soon to say championship, but you want to start moving in the right direct. And I think things have looked as ugly as they have against the top teams. Where is it about time or is it just, hey, this roster kind of is what it is. And it's not the Celtics and it's not the Cavaliers. And until further notice, don't expect to be able to pass those teams. Rangers are kind of going through the same thing to a lesser extent. The NHL, where I think we got a roster issue, boys. I don't think we're good enough. You know, we can, we could tweak here, we could tweak there. We're not good enough. Now the Rangers not good enough, might be missing the playoffs. So that's really bad. But to the Knicks, it might just be, hey, we're, we're two and done. We're the third best team of the conference and we don't. We're not equipped to be able to beat the Cavaliers or the, or the Celtics. How do we get there? Is there a way to get there this year? Probably not. I don't think Mitch is going to be enough to get them there. But what do they do in the off season to get there? Allen, Because I don't know if you can run it back now. You're right. Things can change. There's what, 25 games left in the season. But do you really think it's going to get any different? You only get. You're done with the Celtics, right? No. One more.
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Alan Hahn
One more and you got.
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Don LaGreca
You got two more with the Cavs.
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Alan Hahn
Also in April when it might not matter.
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Don LaGreca
Right? Right. You might be playing. They may be lost this weekend.
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Alan Hahn
This was it.
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Don LaGreca
And again, they had obstacles. You're taking on the Cavs in the second to back to back. She just got OG back.
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Alan Hahn
Just put up a fight if you lost.
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Don LaGreca
But that's the thing. Also, I think it does mean something to on national television, like to be a no show for those games against the Celtics. Like there's been a few times. How many what's, what's their record on.
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Alan Hahn
18 for God's sakers?
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Don LaGreca
Lakers.
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Alan Hahn
They got smacked around the game. Not great.
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Peter Rosenberg
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Kay
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
- [17:55]
Peter Rosenberg
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
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Alan Hahn
So we started out at 3:30 today for everybody to understand something as we have Mets baseball of course on 880. And so I want everybody to understand that because there were a lot of concern on Twitter about 3:00 and it was where are you guys? That's gonna happen at times it's up to us to remind you of this. So the next time guys is Friday, right? Friday There's a Mets 1 o'clock training game. So we'll have it on this airwaves. And so when that game is over we then will take over from there. They will toss it directly to us and then we'll be here with you. So that's just how it's going to go during the Mets season. Now spring training, they're not doing every game but the ones they do, there are going to be games in the afternoon that are going to not preempt but just sort of, you know, delay, melt into our show.
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Kay
There you go.
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Alan Hahn
And so that's just something to keep in mind. So just note the start times, we'll make sure we remind you all. But don't worry, you will always have us here. 800-919-3776. Let's get some calls here on the Knicks and A weekend from hell is how I called it. Dramatic maybe, but that's what it certainly felt like. Robbie in Lenox, Massachusetts. Robbie, start us off.
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Caller
It is a joy to talk to you guys as always and thank you for being there on the air. It's nice to have three guys have great voices by the way. Appreciate that with all the crazy wired guys, with all the guys in radio today that have wired voices. Anyway, gotta talk about the Knicks and the Rangers. So I'll start with the Knicks first guys. You know I saw the Last championship in 1973 as a kid and basketball is not my basketball nor my father's or my grandfather's. The problem I basically have is that nobody plays defense on this team. And you were saying before, I believe Alan was saying that, you know, in games the Knicks have played harder and I don't see it right now. But what I really believe, guys are banged up and that's one thing, but the lack of depth is Another thing, they really need a guy that comes off the bench. Kind of like I'm thinking of Vinnie coming off the bench for Detroit. I'm thinking of. Right. I'm thinking of guys that came off the bench when I was a kid. They're like Henry Bibby when I was a kid, Don, you know, and you know.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, no, no, that's, that's definitely a. You know, they love Deuce McBride, but he's not right. You see Ty Jerome in Cleveland and you go, oh my God. Like, they got to find a guy like that.
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Caller
Yeah. Here's my other question. The other thing, before I talk about the Rangers, why don't players post anymore? I'm sick and tired of watching guys stand around stagnant league with one guy dribbling the basketball. Nobody cuts the basket. What is happening?
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Don LaGreca
Well, they're their offenses.
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Caller
The nerds have ruined the game. I always talk now.
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Alan Hahn
They, they. I'm telling you, man. They, they. This team, this offense, when it's good, they have lots of cuts, they have lots of cutting and they have, they put cat on the post up for some reason. Whatever it is. This, these last couple of games, they have done a lot of perimeter based stuff which might suggest they're just not. Like something's off right now.
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Caller
Yeah, absolutely. But, but when they're on, they're really good. You just work harder. You know, defense is about hard work and the fact that they don't hand check anymore. But anyway, let me get to the Rangers because that's, I mean, it's been my favorite team since I'm a kid. You know, I listen to Don. I basically take the games on, you know, on the national package and I'll tune in and sync them with Donnie when he's on or when Dave's on. Dave and Kenny all the time, Don. So the thing I have my problem with the Rangers here is what is with this stupid one three one style? Don, how does this win hockey game? How do you have five shots in 40 minutes of hockey? Yes, they were out killing penalties for three times against the Penguins, but what in the world is Peter Laviolette doing? They make the same mistakes 20 times this season. They've given up the first goal in the first five minutes. They've given up more than five goals, more than any other team in the league. Why is this guy not Galanin or whatever? Why isn't. Why isn't somebody like, like Zach playing, who's much better, I think than that. He's been terrible. The guy they got for Truba he was a minus four the other night. He's terrible in front of him back.
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Don LaGreca
In and has had a really, really bad stretch of games here. He has not been good, but you cannot under any circumstance. The Pittsburgh Penguins are bad. They were blown out the day before against Washington. Ovechkin, by the way, hat trick, he's just been amazing. How about that? But the point is out shot 18 4. And really the only reason they won that game is he had a kid in goal in Pittsburgh who just couldn't stop a beach ball. Otherwise they get beat by Pittsburgh after losing eight to two the day before. I know they play without Kreider yesterday, but, guys, I just look at this team, they're just not very good. The one, the best thing going for them right now, Allen, is the fact that all the other teams that are chasing after that 7 and 8 seed, they're not good either. So they might just get there because they're just a lack of pushback. But listen, I did that game. They were outplayed, especially in the second period, and they were lucky. They got the Miller goal. And Dave said something, I wonder how. I mentioned it on podcast, too. Game of conduct, wherever you get your podcast. Dave mentioned it during the broadcast. This is something he's like, this is not going to change until they make this J.T. miller's team. He's the best player on the team and he's the one guy that will get in people's faces. And it irritated people in Vancouver. And if you noticed, Vancouver hasn't played any better since they traded him. So Pedersen is still a mess. So they got to change.
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Alan Hahn
This is just.
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Don LaGreca
They're not good enough. They are just not good enough. Igor stole the show yesterday and he was awful the day before and they lost the game. They're just not a very good hockey team right now. And I don't see how it's going to get any better until you're starting to change the core of this team. And that's a very difficult thing to do. Remember, the Miller deal was not about this year because he had years left on his contract and he's the best player on the team. Adam Fox is not the same. Zabanajad just seems to be cooked right now. Kreider's got a bad back. You know, backs are for guys in their mid-30s, not good. So Will Cooley's a nice story. Trocheck's got a bad hand. He's a nice story. But overall, man, should we be surprised looking at where the way they're playing right now as a team that they're fighting for a playoff spot instead of being the team that we thought can compete for a championship.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, it's almost like the Knicks and Rangers are sort of in two different planes. The Rangers are sort of the team that's on the way down after, you know, the group that they had had there had their run and just couldn't get any further than the Final Four.
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Don LaGreca
Right.
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Alan Hahn
That. That was basically it. That's as far as they were going to take it. And now we feel like it's kind of time. Whereas the Knicks are a team that's trying to climb and we don't know if they can yet. They've got to prove it over the next couple of years. So what you don't want is for the Knicks to get where the Rangers are, where they didn't get there and now they're on the.
- [24:26]
Don LaGreca
But here's where they're similar is that. Are you as close as you think you are? Just because you got hurt in the second round and the perception was you would have given the Celtics a go, Were you really as close as you think you were? Like the Rangers going to the conference final two of the last three years gives you the indication this team was knocking on the door. Maybe they weren't all right. Maybe they weren't as good as being the fourth best team or the second best team in the league. Sometimes it can be fool's gold. And what the Knicks have to learn from the Rangers is that if it's not enough, do something about it. Just don't keep running it back hoping this core is going to get it done. Because where the Knicks are right now might be where the Rangers were three years ago.
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Alan Hahn
I'm going to give you two options that would be nuclear for the Knicks to consider in this off season if they don't at least reach a final Four.
- [25:23]
Kay
I'm on a show where 2/3 of the show say nuclear instead of nuclear.
- [25:26]
Don LaGreca
I still don't know what's right. I say nuclear.
- [25:28]
Alan Hahn
What's wrong?
- [25:29]
Kay
You said it wrong.
- [25:30]
Alan Hahn
How did I say it?
- [25:31]
Kay
You said nuclear. That's not the word.
- [25:35]
Don LaGreca
I still don't get it. I say the same thing.
- [25:37]
Kay
Uc.
- [25:38]
Alan Hahn
I understand it's L. Nuclear.
- [25:40]
Kay
AR Nuclear.
- [25:41]
Alan Hahn
Right. But. But I grew up saying nuclear. And so you.
- [25:45]
Kay
So, so you're going to be like. Are you going to be like don and say you do it again?
- [25:49]
Alan Hahn
I mean, this is. I'm good.
- [25:51]
Don LaGreca
I mean, we've had to do it.
- [25:53]
Alan Hahn
That's what I mean. This is how I grow.
- [25:54]
Don LaGreca
You can still get to the altar.
- [25:56]
Alan Hahn
You know what I'm saying? Like, it's.
- [25:59]
Kay
I just had to be noted.
- [26:00]
Alan Hahn
How many. How many words do his being that.
- [26:03]
Kay
It had to be pointed out. Anthony was in my ear. We were both thinking about it.
- [26:06]
Don LaGreca
It had to be said.
- [26:07]
Alan Hahn
But how many words do we have in York vernacular that are not really properly pronounced in the English language?
- [26:13]
Kay
Oh, that's not a New York.
- [26:14]
Alan Hahn
How we say it.
- [26:15]
Kay
Nuclear is a very common.
- [26:16]
Alan Hahn
But there are other words that you hear around the country and like, that ain't it.
- [26:20]
Don LaGreca
That's true.
- [26:21]
Alan Hahn
Right. But do you know what they're saying?
- [26:22]
Kay
Absolutely.
- [26:22]
Don LaGreca
But hold on.
- [26:23]
Kay
I don't want to throw you off your leg.
- [26:24]
Alan Hahn
You threw me off.
- [26:25]
Kay
Something's going to be nuclear. He said something.
- [26:27]
Don LaGreca
The role of Michael K. Will be played by Peter Rosenberg, a much shorter.
- [26:30]
Peter Rosenberg
Michael K. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
- [26:36]
Alan Hahn
I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good.
- [26:38]
Peter Rosenberg
Here for more of Don Allen and Peter. Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
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