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Peter Rosenberg
You were losing.
Michael Kay
Don.
Peter Rosenberg
Don.
Michael Kay
Peter.
Alan Hahn
Thank you, Alan.
Michael Kay
I hope you make the team. And Rosenberg.
Peter Rosenberg
Richard, have you ever heard of brazzers?
Don
No, this isn't North Dakota. This is New York.
Michael Kay
This is Don Hahn and Rosenberg on 880 ESPN and the ESPN New York. What day is it, Peter? Is it my day?
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, it's your day all right. You've been ducking Coffee Day for weeks. It feels like untrue.
Don
There's an elephant in the room.
Peter Rosenberg
You mean Michael Van.
Don
What the hell? And I don't mean that from size. Cause he's down to 217. But he's here.
Michael Kay
What kind of thing is that?
Don
I think we should at least ask if he wants to come on.
Michael Kay
The man is right here.
Don
He's sitting there.
Michael Kay
You called him an elephant. You should storm out of the room.
Don
No, he should storm into his seat and rip me. So at least he's on the air.
Peter Rosenberg
Michael, you want to look felt.
Don
He looks great.
Michael Kay
He only did two hours of radio. He's still got. He's still got a good two hours left in him.
Don
When you do two hours of brilliance, it's like he didn't even work.
Michael Kay
Wow. Brilliant. Peter.
Peter Rosenberg
Don, listen.
Michael Kay
Don's having a hard time letting go. I think we're noticing that.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, listen, he does the case show every. I said, I walked in today and Don wasn't in the room. And I said, this is Don's daily spot with no.
Don
It wasn't in my intent. I wanted to say hello.
Michael Kay
When did he start asking you to put his name on your show again?
Richard
But you know what's funny is that.
Peter Rosenberg
No, now he's gonna put his.
Richard
You probably didn't hear it, but he said of the two of you, you're thrilled that I'm not with the show anymore. He said Don still misses.
Peter Rosenberg
He didn't say that.
Don
In the sense that you have really flourished with his absence.
Peter Rosenberg
Really?
Richard
I didn't know that I curtailed your greatness.
Don
You're more involved in this show than you were involved in the K show and that doesn't make you happy?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, no, listen, I'm happy.
Richard
It makes me unhappy because he wasn't bringing it then Top flight when I was there.
Peter Rosenberg
That's why I don't like what you're saying, Don, because it ends up putting me in a bad position where it looks like I was mailing it in previous.
Richard
You were really texting it in, from what I could tell.
Peter Rosenberg
Hey, hey, hey, hey, Kettle, it's your friend Pot. How you doing, bud, by the way? Hard to text when you're by yourself though. You know what I mean?
Richard
I'm still doing it. Text me whenever you want.
Michael Kay
Actually, yes. Yeah, I can confirm that he has texted.
Richard
Not a problem at all. I text fly balls with me.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but. But then you end up calling it a home run. That's the problem.
Richard
It's a problem.
Peter Rosenberg
Are you. Are you excited? You enjoying every bit of spring training so far? It's like you dream about.
Richard
Not yet.
Peter Rosenberg
Not yet. Why not?
Richard
Only done one game.
Peter Rosenberg
When are you going down there?
Richard
End of March.
Peter Rosenberg
How many.
Richard
How many days?
Peter Rosenberg
How many games?
Richard
Two.
Michael Kay
Two.
Peter Rosenberg
All right. Beautiful. I was cornered by a Yankee loving doorman in my building today. Great guy.
Michael Kay
Is this Dave the doorman?
Peter Rosenberg
This is not Dave the doorman. This is Ivan.
Michael Kay
This is a different doorman.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, this is Ivan.
Michael Kay
How rich do you have to be to live in an apartment building that there's more than one doorman?
Richard
And you know what? Thinks so. If you live in an apartment, more than one doormat. It's more Christmas gifts to give.
Peter Rosenberg
No, you write out. You have to write a. When you have a building like I live in because it's so big, you write. You write a check every year.
Richard
Not if you're only. Not if you're very generous. You have to take one.
Peter Rosenberg
No, that's true. Then you remember each one. You walk around, you hand the cash.
Richard
Now I almost did something and I want you to tell me if I was right or wrong. Jody and I on Sunday went to a show at the Beacon.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, you should have called and I.
Richard
Said we should drop by.
Peter Rosenberg
No, you can't drop by.
Richard
See the baby.
Peter Rosenberg
You can't drop by. You gotta.
Richard
I was gonna say, but she said it's. It's late. They don't want to.
Peter Rosenberg
What day was it?
Richard
Sunday.
Peter Rosenberg
Sunday. What time?
Richard
Well, the show was at 7:30. We got out at 10.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, yeah, out at 10.
Don
For the newborn.
Peter Rosenberg
The gesture would have been appreciated.
Richard
Babies are up all the time.
Peter Rosenberg
You never know. You never know. But on the way down. But by the way, you're just walking out of the Beacon. You're basically at a glorified petri dish. But if you. On your. If on your way, you'd said, hey, we're heading down to the Beacon. Are you guys around? I think it would have been very nice. I don't know if we would have done it.
Richard
Jacob's Pickles.
Peter Rosenberg
Grab ourselves a little treat. What show were you at?
Richard
John Oliver and Seth Meyers was really good.
Peter Rosenberg
It was good. Yeah. They've had a bunch of.
Don
Wow, you've been out and about, huh?
Richard
Why the big weekend?
Don
Billy Joel.
Michael Kay
I saw that.
Peter Rosenberg
Where was the Joelster?
Michael Kay
Mohegan's son.
Peter Rosenberg
With who?
Richard
By himself?
Don
Yeah. He doesn't need an opening act.
Michael Kay
How many times have you seen him now?
Richard
About 25.
Michael Kay
And it's like. It's all the same song.
Richard
It is. It's like having a jukebox.
Michael Kay
It's live.
Richard
This is. I hate to say this, and I didn't say it on my show. First time he looked old.
Peter Rosenberg
Mohegan's smaller, though. Could you see him better? Was that part of it, too?
Richard
Oh, I mean, I don't have terrible seats.
Michael Kay
Yeah.
Richard
Where do you think he's sitting?
Don
In the garden?
Peter Rosenberg
I know where he's sitting. The suite.
Richard
And I can't sit there.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, exactly. I've seen him from there. They're not great.
Richard
He sounds wonderful, but he. Like he did Angry Young Man.
Michael Kay
Right.
Richard
And he kind of was out of breath.
Peter Rosenberg
Angry Young Man's out of breath.
Richard
So he's having a hard time walking. I mean, I saw the same thing with Elton John when he kind of retired. But he's not retired anymore.
Michael Kay
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, the best one is Paul Simon, though, who, by the way, I went to his retirement show.
Michael Kay
That was tough.
Peter Rosenberg
And then he said, he's back, so.
Richard
Now those tickets are worth nothing.
Peter Rosenberg
Not all of it was meaningless. Although he says it's like a quiet.
Richard
The Undertaker.
Peter Rosenberg
You know, I never thought Paul Simon and the Undertaker would have a similarity, but it is like he's sort of rising up yet again.
Richard
Yeah, but I thought he did. He retired because he couldn't hear anymore.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, he said, I think there's certain notes he can't hit anymore.
Michael Kay
Yeah.
Richard
So Sabrina Carpet.
Michael Kay
Yeah, we could tell.
Richard
Yeah.
Michael Kay
That was one where. I wish he just played the guitar. Let Sabrina sing it. No, come on.
Peter Rosenberg
I thought.
Michael Kay
Come on.
Peter Rosenberg
I thought. He still sounds.
Michael Kay
I'm the bad guy. Because she sounded. It was. Was beautiful. And then he went. And you're like, oh, gee.
Richard
Was Art Garfunkel not available?
Peter Rosenberg
I. You know what? They didn't. It's not right that they didn't give the Garfunkel the call.
Richard
Although he and Art don't get along at times.
Michael Kay
Again, no, no, they, like, haven't gotten.
Peter Rosenberg
Along, and they haven't. They haven't been on in a long time.
Richard
Yeah.
Michael Kay
Which is.
Peter Rosenberg
Which is sad. They're in their 80s now. Like, come on, now.
Richard
But, no, I think hatred carries over into any.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, we know. We know how you feel about that. You would never make up.
Michael Kay
Never so much. Petty, he's the keys.
Peter Rosenberg
Richard Petty, Tom Petty, Kyle Petty, the.
Michael Kay
King of all Petty. How about this Gene Hackman story, guys?
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, yeah, we do need to start there.
Richard
Start with death. That's a great way to start.
Don
Would you start for 95?
Richard
No.
Peter Rosenberg
No, you're not.
Richard
I want more.
Michael Kay
You want after 95. Like, by the way, there's some questions about what went down here, which means maybe he was like, 95 is enough.
Peter Rosenberg
Alan, we're taking you all with me. When.
Michael Kay
I hope not.
Peter Rosenberg
When we like to ask Michael, would you take it? You have to understand, if you don't understand, and you probably do, the question is, God comes down to you right now and goes, will you take this number?
Michael Kay
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Otherwise, if you don't take it, you're rolling the dice.
Michael Kay
Do you have a number?
Peter Rosenberg
I know that. 95, I'm taking in a heartbeat. There's not even a conversation.
Michael Kay
No, I'm saying, is there a number that you would say, no, I'm not taking 81.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, yeah, sure.
Richard
Would you take 81?
Alan Hahn
No.
Michael Kay
No.
Peter Rosenberg
In this era, because I'm well to do and not morbidly obese and knock on wood, I have. And I had issues, I'd probably turn down 81, which is still a risk because you could drop dead at 61. And then you just. But what I'm saying is, who doesn't take 95? How do you say no to 95?
Michael Kay
This guy.
Richard
This guy.
Michael Kay
You really want to be. Cause it just. It doesn't.
Richard
My hope is to one day be a burden.
Peter Rosenberg
95. I'm sure we'll do it.
Michael Kay
Wait, I just heard Don say one day.
Peter Rosenberg
So the story starts out that we just hear Gene Hackman and his wife have passed away.
Richard
And the dog.
Michael Kay
And the dog, and the dog.
Richard
So in the background that it could have been CO2.
Michael Kay
But they're not, apparently. The reports are. They're finding no evidence.
Don
And there was two dogs that survived. So that doesn't jive either. There were three dogs. One died, two survived, and they were also found in different rooms, which suggests that it wouldn't be carbon monoxide either.
Richard
He was found how big the house was.
Michael Kay
No signs of a leak or any poisoning.
Don
She was in the bathroom. He was in, like, a mud room, which is, like, where you keep your shoes and stuff. Like, so it just. Come on.
Richard
Yeah, I've seen it.
Don
No matter what.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm surprised it's now officially considered suspicious circumstances.
Richard
Awful. Also, I was thinking, like, when there was a rumor it was carbon monoxide. Imagine you lived in 95 and that's how you go out, and you still had more there.
Michael Kay
It's painless, though, isn't it?
Richard
It is painless, but if you're going.
Michael Kay
To go out, you want it to be painless.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but if. But true. But to his point, if you were still going strong at 95, and then you just go to sleep one day and die because you didn't get your carbon monoxide.
Richard
But what John said, I mean, he didn't go to sleep. It was in the mud room. Nobody sleeps in the mud room.
Don
You just hate to see it was so. I don't know what happened, but. What a legend. Absolutely.
Michael Kay
That's the I was trying to get to. But Peter loves to go right for the drama.
Richard
Very macabre.
Peter Rosenberg
You can't ignore that. There's weird stuff here.
Michael Kay
How did it happen? Can we just celebrate his life? No, I need to know how he did.
Peter Rosenberg
She was found lying on her side in the bathroom with a space heater near her body. Her body showed signs of decomposition. The document said there was mummification to her hands and feet. What does that mean?
Michael Kay
Whoa, you're smart.
Don
They were there for a while.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, that's mummification. On the counter near her was an open prescription bottle with pills scattered.
Michael Kay
Oh, boy.
Peter Rosenberg
A German shepherd was found dead 10 to 15ft away from her.
Don
I think the dog got to the pills. That's what I think. I think that's why one of the dogs died, is probably that the pills were lying out there. Probably went and ate the pills and that's how the dog died. That would be my guess.
Richard
I guess this is a preferable open to.
Michael Kay
Didn't know we were analyzing this.
Don
Well, there's similarities, too. The Knicks almost lost to the 76ers and their season is in peril.
Michael Kay
Wow. No, that's not the. That's not the transition we're looking for here. Without a doubt. I think the transition we're looking for here is, of all the Gene Hackman movies, we know that Hoosiers was not the best one that he was ever in, but it might be the one that he's most known for.
Peter Rosenberg
It's up there.
Michael Kay
He has told the story that he hated them. He hated it when they were doing it. He didn't think it was gonna be a good movie at all. And yet the movie comes out, it's a huge hit for whatever reasons that everybody has. And he said that after the fact. He has been recognized in airports and other places more for that movie and him as Norman Dale, the coach, than anything else.
Richard
He's done even more than Popeye Doyle.
Michael Kay
Yes. Yeah. He said that's the one that everybody that sees him will quote him and say things to him about how much that movie meant to them and all that stuff, and it blows his mind.
Peter Rosenberg
So did you ever do a Center Stage?
Richard
No.
Michael Kay
Oh, that would have been a good. Yeah, no, that would have been a good.
Don
The best movie he was in was Unforgiven, at least by the, you know, the ratings of the movie.
Richard
He won an Oscar, right?
Don
I believe so.
Michael Kay
Oh, yeah.
Don
He. I loved him in the Birdcage.
Michael Kay
Yes. Mississippi Burning. Very good. Like a lot of the Firm, I thought. Very good. Like, there was a lot of movies that he did that were great. But what made Hoosiers, that movie that resonated the most with people? Is it just because it's a sports movie? And a lot of people love those movies. Because there are some people that think it's the. It's the greatest sports movie.
Don
Not to me.
Michael Kay
I'm not saying you. But there's a lot of people that put it number one as the best one they've seen. The one that every time you watch it, you. You have that same feeling.
Peter Rosenberg
I.
Michael Kay
Where does anybody put it in their top three when it comes to sports movies?
Peter Rosenberg
Hoosiers.
Michael Kay
Not three.
Peter Rosenberg
Not from me. It's not from.
Michael Kay
What do you got?
Peter Rosenberg
It was always boring for me. It was always a little too boring. Respectfully boring. Yeah. Well, listen, Rocky1 is number one with that.
Don
That would be mine, if you're considering.
Peter Rosenberg
That a sports movie, which I think.
Richard
See that. That's interesting because it's. That. Really a sports movie, right? It is not really about boxing. It's about.
Peter Rosenberg
It's kind of a romance.
Richard
Perseverance. Yeah.
Michael Kay
It's a story. Story of struggle, basically.
Peter Rosenberg
But if you consider that a sports movie, and I do, and I think you have to, because it ends up being the biggest sports movie series in Got to have Rocky at number one for me, Dom, where you're on lockstep.
Don
Well, yeah, I would go Rocky and then on that same theme, Raging Bull I think is just a masterpiece. So I would have that in my top five. Prior to the Yankees because I'm a hockey guy. I laugh every time Slap Shot is on. I just love that movie. So that would be there for sure. From a football.
Richard
Remember the Titans?
Don
Not a fan.
Peter Rosenberg
Don't you guys love the sad TV movie one?
Don
Oh, yeah. Does it count, though? Because it was a made for TV movie.
Michael Kay
Yeah, if it's a movie, it's a movie, right? Does it have to be a silver screen?
Don
I think movies make the made for TV movie. Sit at the kids.
Richard
There's some dirty movies you made with a camcorder. Rama, Paul. That's a movie. Even though it wasn't. Sports seem very athletic at times.
Peter Rosenberg
They were. They were short.
Michael Kay
I did hear what you.
Richard
You know, I just thought of something. We should do this two to every day, just the four of us. And I could sit off to the side. I like this part of the gig.
Michael Kay
You know, it's funny. My job got easier when I moved to this role. It would get even easier if we did that.
Richard
Yeah, it would be a. It be a heavy six hours. A heavy lift.
Michael Kay
What am I lifting? I'm sitting back, letting you guys roll.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, two to seven is only five hours.
Michael Kay
Twenty years.
Peter Rosenberg
You lost an hour.
Richard
Oh, one. Oh, I'm on it. 11 to 7.
Michael Kay
You can do that one hour by yourself. And then you do the one hour.
Peter Rosenberg
You do one to two by yourself.
Richard
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
And then you bring in the backups.
Richard
No, no, I. I would step to the side. I wouldn't know. I would just be a. An auxiliary piece.
Don
You're saying side piece.
Peter Rosenberg
You're saying you miss. I'm guessing you miss having some people to chat with.
Richard
At times I do, yeah. Yeah, yeah. At times. It's also freeing to just see.
Peter Rosenberg
You kept saying, oh, it's gonna be free. And I went, no, no, it's freeing.
Michael Kay
It's liberating to a point. But I'm sure there's also other moments that you just. It's better to bounce stuff off somebody. And that's.
Richard
But you know what? I'm not a guy who talks to himself. So this gives me two hours to do it and not be looked at as a lunatic.
Peter Rosenberg
That's exactly right.
Richard
But my wife does talk to herself. It's strange. She'll be walking around the house mumbling.
Michael Kay
My wife talks to the dog using her own voice.
Peter Rosenberg
What does that mean?
Michael Kay
No, no. Stephanie will narrate the dog's thoughts in a conversation with herself.
Peter Rosenberg
That's a really interesting.
Michael Kay
It's the most bizarre thing. She's in the other room, and she'll just start talking to my dog.
Richard
You know what it shows is that anybody that's married to anybody in this business loses the.
Don
I think so.
Michael Kay
I think you're right.
Richard
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
It's on the table.
Richard
Yeah. Well, I better let you guys go. I mean, I don't want to.
Peter Rosenberg
No, no. You're gonna go.
Michael Kay
Chasing you out, so.
Richard
Oh, really?
Peter Rosenberg
No, no. I mean, you. We're staying here. You can't. I hate when he was wrapping up a phone call. I'm gonna let you go. Just say you want to leave.
Richard
I don't want to leave. I'll stay here all day. I don't care.
Peter Rosenberg
No, no.
Richard
You would drive home now. What?
Don
You would.
Richard
If you wanted me to.
Don
I feel like testing it just to see.
Michael Kay
See how to call him out. Right. How resilient. Oh, you gave it.
Don
Oh, you giving up, say, all day.
Peter Rosenberg
All right, you said Fast forward. It's 4.
Don
45.
Peter Rosenberg
You still. You still rocking with us, by the way.
Michael Kay
Hackman. Academy Award for best actor in a leading role in the French Connection. Academy Award for best actor in a supporting role in Unforgiven and also another.
Don
Sports movie he was in that I don't think was great, but some people do like it. The Replacements.
Michael Kay
Oh, that's right.
Don
But he was the head coach in that one.
Michael Kay
Yeah, that was. That's a. It's an all right. Movie.
Richard
What's the movie that Jamie Fox remade that Burt Reynolds was at first.
Peter Rosenberg
Any given Sunday.
Michael Kay
No, no, no, no. You're thinking of Longest Yard.
Richard
Yeah, right.
Michael Kay
Yeah.
Richard
Jamie Foxx was in it, too. I think maybe I'm thinking about giving something.
Michael Kay
You're thinking of that one. But. Yeah, but that was the. Yeah, that. That, that. Yeah, a lot of them were remade. Any given Sunday's really good.
Richard
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
Like, it could be in the conversation.
Michael Kay
And I believe a lot of NFL players say that's as close to. That's close to reality.
Richard
North Dallas 40 is supposed to be really close.
Don
A little too close.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm putting Happy Gilmore in my top three as well. Top four.
Don
I would have. I would have Caddyshack there.
Peter Rosenberg
It's.
Don
I mean, even though I hate. God, I love that movie.
Michael Kay
Tin cup is better than both of those movies.
Don
No, Caddyshack.
Michael Kay
Come on. Caddyshack is this hilarious Right.
Don
What's the matter with being entertained? Is there something wrong?
Michael Kay
No.
Don
Is that everything artsy?
Michael Kay
It's a golf movie. It's not even about golf. It's about mocking the establishment.
Don
Right. Golf.
Peter Rosenberg
See, that's an interesting golf. But that's an interesting argument because it's not about, like, a professional sport or anything. It's about a country club, essentially. Right.
Michael Kay
Tin cup is literally a golf movie, you know, pro and.
Peter Rosenberg
But Happy Gilmore is a golf movie. He's on the tour. They have golfers in it. They. The. They do. I mean, it's a comedy, but it's all in there.
Richard
Well, Happy Gilmore, too, has golfers in it.
Peter Rosenberg
Happy Gilmore. One has Lee Trevino.
Richard
Yeah.
Don
He's not playing.
Michael Kay
He's just like, you know, just keeps shaking his head.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, it has. It had. Is Nance in it?
Michael Kay
Yes, Nance is in it.
Richard
Bob Barker.
Peter Rosenberg
Barker, of course.
Michael Kay
Famously right in it.
Peter Rosenberg
Apollo Creed. Rest in Peace.
Richard
Chubbs.
Michael Kay
Chubbs.
Peter Rosenberg
Chubbs. Peterson. Yeah, that would probably be there for me. But that's interesting that we should. We should ask the people throughout the day.
Michael Kay
Oh, I think we're doing that. 800 now. And nine, six. We have a ton of calls already on this. But I. You guys didn't ask me what my movies are, so I guess it's not important.
Peter Rosenberg
Alan. What?
Michael Kay
Everybody just chimes in with theirs Alan. Don't worry about me. No, it's all right.
Richard
Hey, Alan, I was wondering, what are your top three movies?
Michael Kay
I don't really like movies. I have Hoosiers number two. I have Basketball Guy number one.
Richard
What was the first one?
Michael Kay
Miracle.
Don
I liked Miracle.
Michael Kay
Come on.
Richard
Can I ask you a question? I love our company. You know that.
Don
Sure.
Richard
Love the mothership. Why did they play Herb Brooks, you know, Kurt Russell in the Miracle movie? They weren't fast underdogs in that, but.
Don
Miracle was a Disney movie.
Michael Kay
You know what that was.
Richard
But I get it. But it didn't fit.
Michael Kay
No, but it wasn't for the fit. It was. It was. Can I say, you know what it is? It's. It's, you know, it's. It's. It's showing some skin. It gets you excited.
Richard
To just actually show, like something from striptease. I mean, get people excited.
Michael Kay
It literally was that in a sports.
Don
You're right. They weren't an underdog.
Michael Kay
They're right. They said in the building. When they played it in the building, it was. Everybody was losing their mind.
Peter Rosenberg
It was so.
Don
Because of the age of the players. That's right. In their wheelhouse. It came out 20 minutes ago. They all talk about quoting that movie all the time. So I think it served two masters of. It was a fire up speech and it was something I think the players connected with you.
Richard
You know, it would also be a good thing to ask listeners. So Aruzioni comes out before the four nations final. How many people have lived off one day of their life like Michael Rusi? And I'm not knocking him.
Michael Kay
No.
Richard
How many people have had traction off of one magic moment in their life? They have a whole life.
Don
The only one I can think of, and it was actually a negative moment, was Ralph Branca.
Richard
Yes.
Don
Thought that for a long. And Bobby Thompson.
Richard
And Bobby Thompson.
Don
That's who comes up to mind there. Yeah.
Richard
But you know what? They had careers before and after. I mean, Michael Ruzioni is legend. Legend off one game.
Michael Kay
Just one game. Well, I mean, more than one game. That whole thing he was a big part of. But you're right, the Soviet game and what he did and all that stuff, that's a great one in all of sports. Because you're talking about a career. Because he did. He wasn't. And he knew he wasn't good enough to play in the NHL. At least Jim Craig played in the NHL. Some of the other players on the team got to the NHL and played. He knew he wasn't good enough. And yet he has become just as big a legend in hockey, in American hockey, than anybody else you can think of.
Richard
Would Buster Douglas fit the champ?
Peter Rosenberg
Champ, if you will? Well, it depends what you consider. To me, it's like, what are we.
Michael Kay
Qualified, how they're considered, aside from the payday.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, no, Buster Douglas. He does, though, like Buster Douglas to this day exists. He will appear at things like he's.
Richard
A guy because of that fight.
Peter Rosenberg
And it's one. It's one moment. Right after that, it completely fell off a cliff.
Michael Kay
Right. See, Aruzzioni never had that arousion. He walked away at the top.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, unlike someone like David Tyree, didn't become a legend. He had a moment.
Michael Kay
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
And he may. He still lives a life off of it somewhat.
Michael Kay
Jeremy Lin's the closest thing, but that's good.
Richard
But that.
Peter Rosenberg
No, but you gotta give him more than a moment, though. It's unique. He literally did it for a month.
Michael Kay
No, he had a month. Yeah, he had a month.
Richard
But a month in basketball, what Aruzioni did in the Olympics.
Peter Rosenberg
That's fair. That's fair.
Don
It would have to be another Olympian. Right.
Michael Kay
Mary Lou Retton. But like, right. America's sweetheart. Like, it's got to be somebody along those lines.
Richard
The Australian break dancer.
Michael Kay
Oh, Ray Gunn.
Peter Rosenberg
We love Reagan.
Michael Kay
Again, notorious, though. Not really living off of it.
Don
There's got to be others, though. Like, I can think of players that you. It wasn't think about somebody play.
Michael Kay
Like there wasn't Jeff Hostetler. Like, there wasn't somebody that just.
Don
Now there's plenty of guys that are known for the one play. Like, the conversation we had last week is even a negative one. But like, even if I said, like Christian Laettner, everybody thinks about that shot against Kentucky, but he's one of the great college basketball players of all time and had a pretty extensive NBA career. Not a great one, but an extensive one. You know, Bill Buckner remembered for that play. Negative, but that's negative. Even Mookie Wilson, from a positive standpoint, still had a really good career around that. Michael Rusioni. That's what you remember. Nobody's remember anything before it, and there was nothing after.
Peter Rosenberg
And that is. That's a unique situation.
Don
Very, very. That's why you have to think Olympics or boxing, because nobody really remembers Buster before or after. No, for the most part. I mean, really beyond that.
Michael Kay
Somebody that just came out of nowhere, won a tournament and then disappeared.
Richard
I mean, one guy who won a major and then he got arrested. The. The. The Spaniard.
Michael Kay
Oh. Oh, God. I know of the story. Don't know the name.
Don
I would say the wrong name.
Michael Kay
John Deli kind of came out of nowhere, was like brash and everything, and then just disappeared.
Richard
Right.
Michael Kay
Well, not disappeared, but fell off the. The tour.
Peter Rosenberg
The golf would be a good one, though, because you do have the random right. Someone does it out of nowhere and then it never happened.
Don
What did Brandi Chastain do?
Michael Kay
Rip Jersey off?
Don
Well, no, but I know she. She probably played in the wsa.
Peter Rosenberg
How good she was. How good was she actually, though?
Don
Yeah. And again, all the things before, I. I don't know. But that's like somebody I think of like an Olympic moment, known for that goal.
Michael Kay
That's probably the closest when it comes to, you know, a team sport athlete who became the face of something and unforgettable. Like Aruzioni. Like, Brandy Chastain's a really good one. That's.
Richard
I think that's what a Ruzioni might be one of one. I mean, to make an entire. He makes a living off that. He gives speeches off that one game.
Michael Kay
Tremendous. That's probably what it is.
Richard
Good for him.
Michael Kay
800-919377, 6. The phones are already lit up and ready to go. They've got all kinds of opinions.
Richard
Peter, you'll let me go now?
Michael Kay
And we have no.
Peter Rosenberg
Michael's here till seven. You said you'll hang out all night, as promised.
Don
We'll get coffee.
Peter Rosenberg
7:00.
Richard
You want me to get your coffee?
Don
It's your turn.
Michael Kay
Which.
Don
It's actually Alan's turn. But if you're going to join us, all really your time.
Richard
But you know, I don't drink coffee, though.
Michael Kay
How did you do that then?
Richard
You guys, they got me iced tea. How about the Schultz and the Rappaport thing? Is that unbelievable?
Michael Kay
How many.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, yeah.
Michael Kay
How many times have you seen that in your day? A media like a fight.
Richard
I mean, people don't like getting beat, especially these NFL insiders. So Schultz writes something and then Rapaport, 20 minutes later, kind of shoots it down. Then they have a fight, verbal fight in a Starbucks. And Schultz's father is the founder. The founder of Starbucks.
Michael Kay
Tremendous.
Peter Rosenberg
That you can't make that up.
Michael Kay
But this stuff happened. I mean, you've ever been in a scrum where somebody's trying to get a question and somebody else is dominating and then they just start arguing about it? Or a cameraman rests the camera on your shoulder.
Richard
I saw Joel Sherman knock a guy out.
Michael Kay
Knock a guy out.
Richard
A guy kept putting a camera over Joel's shoulder and said. He turned around and said, please stop. And the guy kept doing please stop. He said three times. He said, one more time, I'm going to knock you out. And the guy put his on the shoulder and Joel just hauled off and knocked him out. And Steinbrenner was the one that was sitting. And George loved it.
Michael Kay
Of course he loved it.
Peter Rosenberg
That's great.
Richard
And after that, Joel had sparked lunch with George.
Michael Kay
Of course he loved it. Yeah, that. That's also.
Richard
Joel punched Mr. Matt once.
Michael Kay
That would have done that.
Richard
He was bothering him at Shea Stadium while I was trying to write, and he just punched him in the.
Don
That's why Michael thinks.
Michael Kay
Did he leave like a.
Don
And that's why Michael, for years, has said that's why he thinks Joel could take me.
Michael Kay
Could take it.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Don
In a fight. Because he punched Mr. Matt.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, not just Mr. Matt.
Richard
Something hit that big, it's hard to beat crazy. And I love Joe. He's one of my closest friends. He's. He's a little nuts.
Michael Kay
Yeah. You might know karate, but he knows karazi. Like, that's.
Richard
I like that.
Michael Kay
That's Dpietro's line.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, yeah, okay, well, he stole that, too.
Michael Kay
You think he stole that, too? You've heard that before.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, yeah. That sounds very much like Chris tucker random early 90s.
Richard
But you don't want to give Pete Pietro love. That's your problem.
Peter Rosenberg
No. What do you mean? He's in the Long Island Italian hall of Fame.
Michael Kay
You say that with like. Like it's derision.
Richard
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I'm excited. You can't tell.
Michael Kay
It's almost like you spit right after you.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I thought we were gonna open with it today. I thought it was big news.
Richard
By the way, Rick and I. Before I leave, Rick and I have this thing that we've shared, and you guys should do it, too.
Peter Rosenberg
You kiss on the mountain.
Richard
Got to see. You've got to watch paradise on Hulu.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm hearing a lot about Paradise.
Richard
It's one of the greatest things I've ever watched.
Peter Rosenberg
Come on.
Michael Kay
That's a lot on the.
Peter Rosenberg
You love the Sopranos.
Michael Kay
It's better than the Sopranos.
Richard
It's up there.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, listen, I've heard a lot of good things. It's up there. You know. You know who created the show?
Richard
Sterling K. Brown.
Peter Rosenberg
No, but it's. It's Dan Fogelman, who's the creator of this Is Us with Sterling K. Brown.
Richard
Yes.
Peter Rosenberg
Created this show as well.
Richard
Sterling K. Brown's unbelievable.
Peter Rosenberg
He's the man.
Michael Kay
What kind of movie are you gonna put me in?
Peter Rosenberg
People are buzzing on this show.
Richard
It's apocalyptic. I don't want to give it away. I don't want to explain.
Michael Kay
No, I get it.
Peter Rosenberg
It's a political action drama.
Richard
But it's eight episodes, so. The seventh one was this two. It comes out every Tuesday, so as of next Tuesday, you could actually binge it.
Peter Rosenberg
All right, I'm in tonight. I'm getting in there. I'm. Tonight?
Richard
Tonight.
Michael Kay
Well, I got some road trips coming up.
Richard
Which was. Which was this past Tuesday. Rick and I were texting back. He said it was like a movie. It was.
Michael Kay
You.
Richard
You couldn't get up. You.
Michael Kay
You.
Richard
You held your breath. It was so amazing.
Michael Kay
No, no, I got it.
Richard
It's on Hulu.
Michael Kay
All right.
Richard
Which we get as part of being Disney employees.
Michael Kay
I, I. Yeah, I'm aware of that.
Don
I do like Hulu.
Michael Kay
You like Hulu?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Michael Kay
You like the Hulu? All right. That's good.
Don
How to draw.
Peter Rosenberg
I do. The way he said it, though, I do like Hulu. It was. It's just the way it was. So matter of fact, what I've learned.
Michael Kay
Though, these guys take everything out of context. And use it against you constantly.
Richard
And that makes you sound awful.
Michael Kay
It doesn't take a lot.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but that's what a good drop is.
Michael Kay
I guess so.
Richard
I just saw Peter at work, though I never really noticed it when I was in that seat. He hits the button, that's a drop.
Michael Kay
Oh, yeah, yeah. And he said, no, that's subtly.
Peter Rosenberg
Sometimes I just look. Sometimes we can just look at each other and know. But sometimes. Sometimes it needs to be said. Anthony might have been on the phone with Richard. You never know.
Michael Kay
Anthony's too busy right now.
Richard
Richard did it first today. He hung up on me.
Don
I have a theory on why he did that.
Richard
Because he got bored by us.
Don
No, no, no. I think Richard heard me. Come on. Figured, well, Don will know that I was on the K show and he won't take our call later. That's my theory.
Richard
He's on every show all time.
Don
I know, but I have a feeling. The beginning.
Richard
But I heard that. Somebody told me today that Peter says it's a must to take Richard every day.
Michael Kay
He's obsessed with him. Yeah, he's like a teenager with a pop star. I snapped at the princess I've ever heard Saturday.
Richard
It's unacceptable.
Peter Rosenberg
What did he do?
Richard
I forget. I erased it from my mind.
Peter Rosenberg
It was just a bad question.
Richard
It was a ridiculous premise. I said, what were you talking about? Oh, George Steinburn, see, is the most significant figure in New York Yankees history. I said, more significant than Babe Ruth? Babe Ruth is the most significant figure in baseball history. How could he not also be in Yankee history? And as you know, George Steinburn was more important.
Michael Kay
You're doing that right through you.
Richard
Yes, even when you correct them.
Michael Kay
But do you realize, just like we are at stop sign right now, we.
Don
Asked you questions and then refuses to even let you answer?
Michael Kay
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
The fact is, we're talking.
Michael Kay
Hey, everybody. We're going to go to a break while we continue this conversation. When we come back, we'll take your calls and continue more of this conversation. Stay with us. Don Han Rosenberg with Michael k. No more. 880, ESPN. Cheap burger. Cheap burger, Cheeseburger.
Alan Hahn
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Michael Kay
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Peter Rosenberg
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Michael Kay
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Don
And it does without me lifting a finger so I can get in more.
Peter Rosenberg
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Michael Kay
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Don
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Michael Kay
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Peter Rosenberg
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Michael Kay
Seed bun, of course.
Peter Rosenberg
And don't forget the fries and a drink. Sound good. I participate in restaurants for a limited time.
Michael Kay
Some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking Allstate first. Like you know to check the Jumbotron.
Peter Rosenberg
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Michael Kay
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Peter Rosenberg
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Michael Kay
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Peter Rosenberg
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Michael Kay
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Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
Michael Kay
Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. I know you don't agree though, Don, but for me this is like, no, I love it. This is my go to. I love this is my favorite maiden song.
Don
It's not my favorite.
Michael Kay
I know it's not your favorite.
Don
I do like it, though.
Michael Kay
But you put this on, like, your. Your gym workout mix. You're. You know, you're gonna. You're gonna PR. It's gonna happen.
Don
You're gonna pr.
Michael Kay
Yeah.
Don
I'm sorry. I don't know what that is.
Michael Kay
Peter. No, if you do.
Peter Rosenberg
If you put it on your gym mix, you're gonna.
Michael Kay
You're gonna PR you're gonna PR Absolutely no PR. Geez, boys.
Peter Rosenberg
Peter Rosenberg. No pumping iron.
Michael Kay
You're not gonna pump. No pump. Something.
Peter Rosenberg
Anybody?
Michael Kay
Does anybody here know Jake?
Peter Rosenberg
He doesn't know pr.
Michael Kay
He knows pr. I'm over here trying to wreck my brain with his P. Wow. So is there anybody in here that's an athlete? Anybody? Anthony, if I told you, you're in the gym, you listen to a song, it's gonna, like, fire you up. You're gonna PR Today. What are you doing something?
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, reps. Nope.
Michael Kay
Final Countdown. Oh, my God. No one owns a pelt.
Don
Premature rejoculation.
Michael Kay
Yeah, that's what it is. That's exactly.
Peter Rosenberg
It's rejoicing.
Michael Kay
We're gonna take calls. I noticed. How long does it take somebody to get this right? Ralph in Brooklyn. Ralph. Ralph. You have a pr. You have a PR In a workout.
Alan Hahn
No clue what you guys are talking about.
Don
He's just one guy. Just one guy. I'm with you, and Peter's with you. We don't. No one knows. He knows, Alan. That's it. I just.
Alan Hahn
I just want to tell you guys, you're sitting with royalty. You're talking about one of the. Who's a great Yankee figure. He's right next to you guys. His name is Michael K. But what.
Peter Rosenberg
Does that have to do with anything? Respectful.
Don
Well, he just is a Yankee fan, and he. Jones is for the days of.
Alan Hahn
I'll tell you why. We're talking about movies. Probably the greatest movie of all time.
Don
What is that?
Alan Hahn
Barry Cooper. 1942. Gary Cooper.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, you guys forgot a couple other ones.
Michael Kay
What else we got? Part of the Yankees. It's. It's. It holds up. It holds up.
Alan Hahn
Okay. Go to the 70s. Heaven can wait. At the time, it was number one.
Michael Kay
Love.
Don
Love that.
Alan Hahn
And then recently. Recently. Blindside.
Michael Kay
You know what, though? You know why? You know why? That movie lost some luster. It lost a lot of luster. Because, by the way, Sandra Bullock. Correct. Right, Right.
Don
Yes.
Alan Hahn
There's no one best.
Michael Kay
I know. And. And then we find out the real story behind it. It didn't really go that way.
Alan Hahn
There was a lot wrong.
Michael Kay
A lot of lies going on. Now all of a Sudden they. They really, really made themselves look to be like, you know, the fact that the guy.
Peter Rosenberg
The fact that the kid and the family hate each other.
Michael Kay
Larry and Joseph over here, but they were current.
Alan Hahn
We still watch it every time it's on ever.
Peter Rosenberg
And.
Michael Kay
And that.
Peter Rosenberg
And.
Alan Hahn
And then the last one. I. I think you mentioned it, but I think he downplayed it. I don't know. Remember the Titans was fabulous.
Richard
Yeah.
Michael Kay
Remember the Titans Was very good.
Peter Rosenberg
Respectfully.
Michael Kay
Very good.
Peter Rosenberg
Respectfully. When it comes to your movie taste, sir, you're a basic. B. Respectfully.
Michael Kay
Wow. Basic. Okay, that wasn't nice. Holds up.
Peter Rosenberg
Pride of the Yankees. Are classic that.
Alan Hahn
I'm a guy that drives around with two Yankee logos on passenger.
Michael Kay
I am shocked by that development.
Alan Hahn
I'm blue and blue.
Michael Kay
I really did not expect.
Don
As long as you didn't say curveballs along the way, we're good. I thought you were going to say curveballs along the way.
Michael Kay
Angels in the outfield.
Don
I would have killed you. But, you know, prior to the Yankees. Fine. But if you're giving me the whole.
Alan Hahn
I'll give you a different one. How about Coach Carter? You want? You want.
Peter Rosenberg
Listen, Don. Don. Do you want to line up with my tank?
Don
Yeah. Yeah. These are okay movies.
Peter Rosenberg
You just.
Don
You know what it sounds like to me, throwing out sports movies.
Michael Kay
Thank you, Ralph.
Don
Like, I'm not feeling these movies. It's not Raging Bull. Very basic shot.
Peter Rosenberg
He's saying a lot of very basic stuff.
Michael Kay
Adam in California. Adam. Hey, boys.
Alan Hahn
Thanks again for taking the call. I just wanted to touch base on the. The movie conversation.
Michael Kay
Well, can you first tell me, though, Adam, if you're in the gym and you're fired up and you're like, I'm gonna PR today, what are you doing?
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, press. You gotta press reps. Jesus. You gotta push real hard.
Michael Kay
No.
Alan Hahn
Why are you asking me this, Alan?
Michael Kay
Because somebody needs to know this.
Peter Rosenberg
Because. Because Alan doesn't realize he's painting himself as a nozzle and he's just gonna keep going.
Michael Kay
I'm not trying to paint myself as a nozzle.
Peter Rosenberg
None of you guys work out, bro.
Don
Well, I mean, I. I guess you guys.
Peter Rosenberg
You guess you're not coming to GNC with me later either.
Michael Kay
What am I, white Goodman?
Peter Rosenberg
You never pr'd.
Don
Come on, man.
Michael Kay
Don't turn me. Don't turn me into a gym, bro.
Peter Rosenberg
You are turning yourself into a gym, bro.
Michael Kay
How hard is this?
Peter Rosenberg
Literally.
Michael Kay
I'm not using, like, a deep industry term here. Very basic term.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't think it's as basic as you Think.
Michael Kay
Apparently not. Adam.
Peter Rosenberg
What do you got, Adam?
Don
Aside from that.
Michael Kay
Yeah. Don't gym shame me.
Peter Rosenberg
No, no. All right, hold on.
Don
See, this is time to stay young.
Peter Rosenberg
No, no.
Michael Kay
You got young children.
Peter Rosenberg
We love that. You. You're in tremendous shape. You now are deciding to go down a path of. You people don't know what PR is. You can't. They get offended at me for pointing out you're making yourself a gym bro. But by the way, you are a gym. Look at yourself. You're a gym bro. You didn't know when he asked.
Michael Kay
Ran for four years in high school. Well, that's.
Peter Rosenberg
Now I know what it is, Peter. And you respond. Peter, did you answer?
Don
I was. If Jacob has this thing and I.
Michael Kay
Don'T have my headphones and I do. Peter. Peter.
Don
I now know what it is. People have tweeted me.
Peter Rosenberg
Okay.
Don
It's stupid.
Michael Kay
I know.
Don
Don't feel bad for not knowing.
Peter Rosenberg
Nothing could make me feel stupid about this conversation.
Alan Hahn
Well, to be fair to Alan, I was in the military. We call it pt Physical training.
Michael Kay
So, no, it's not it either, but. Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
No, don't be. Offend you a little bit not knowing.
Don
You end up going into kp.
Peter Rosenberg
What do you. What do you got, Adam?
Alan Hahn
So I wanted. First of all, I wanted to take exception to the decaster, because for him to even suggest that Rocky is not a sports movie, he needs to go home and get his sleep and shine box.
Don
It's too. I kind of understood.
Michael Kay
Another great movie reference.
Don
You could say it's a metaphor. You can make the same movie around any sport, but it's still around. Look at the COVID of the dvd. Just like look at the movie poster.
Peter Rosenberg
It's.
Don
He's draped in.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Don
He's wearing the gloves.
Peter Rosenberg
It's.
Don
It's a boxing movie.
Peter Rosenberg
It's a sports movie.
Alan Hahn
It starts in a boxing ring, ends in a boxing ring. Come on, let's just move on.
Michael Kay
Okay, But I just.
Alan Hahn
I wanted to bring up the movie. I don't think you guys brought up which is one of the best sports movies is Major League.
Michael Kay
It's really good.
Don
Before we got beat up, it wasn't like we spent four hours.
Peter Rosenberg
We just started.
Don
The thing I love about Major League is Major League is a goofy comedy. Right? They nailed it, man. When they. The Indians at the time trained in Arizona, so when they played spring training games, all the teams they played were teams from Arizona. Like, they looked like they were ball players. They really did a great job with that move.
Michael Kay
Fantastic. They did the manager. Like, all of It. It's perfect. Yeah. And the miserable fans. There was so much about it. That was great.
Alan Hahn
Just the quotability of it, you know, Just a bit.
Michael Kay
Damn.
Peter Rosenberg
Major league is fully in the conversation.
Michael Kay
Definitely there. I'm definitely in. That's a good one.
Alan Hahn
All right. Cool, man.
Michael Kay
Thanks. Adam, you remember. Of course. Wild Thing. What league did he come from?
Don
Was it something Penal League?
Michael Kay
The California.
Don
California League.
Michael Kay
Let's go to. Let's see. Alex and Lynbrook.
Alan Hahn
Oh, hi, guys. I was gonna talk about the Knicks, but since we're talking about movies, I think Gene Hepburn's best acting was in Mississippi Burning.
Michael Kay
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
And he showed his comedic by being in Birdcage. It's pretty funny.
Don
I love that.
Michael Kay
Fantastic.
Alan Hahn
And let's not. And before I play. I won't play a quick game.
Michael Kay
Week.
Alan Hahn
Done. But before, let's not forget Michelle Trachtenberg. She passed away at 39. Mine from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, she passed away yesterday. Yeah.
Michael Kay
Oh, wow.
Alan Hahn
Donnie, can I play a quick game with you? I'm gonna give you names of two women, and you pick the one you know, your favorite one or.
Michael Kay
Oh, all right, we're going blue now.
Don
Let's go. Let's do it.
Michael Kay
It's early in the afternoon, but so what?
Alan Hahn
Barbara Eden or Elizabeth Montgomery?
Don
Oh, wow, that's. That. That's as old as time. This is Wheelhouse.
Michael Kay
This is Wheelhouse. Don, for me, this is going to say a lot about you.
Don
For me, it's Barbara eating.
Alan Hahn
Okay. I'm going to try to tear them up. Mrs. Brady.
Michael Kay
I'm on Montgomery.
Don
Mrs. Brady or who?
Alan Hahn
Mrs. Partridge.
Don
Oh, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Mrs. Partridge.
Alan Hahn
Okay. Alice or Trixie?
Don
Oh, wow, that's also a really good one from the Honeymooners.
Michael Kay
Oh.
Peter Rosenberg
Any chance you could pull anything that someone under 50 would have an idea what you're talking about?
Michael Kay
No. Come on.
Don
These are good. Oh, these.
Michael Kay
These are good.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't know what the Partridge mother looks like.
Michael Kay
Look it up.
Don
I'm gonna go. I. I think Trixie's a little dirty.
Michael Kay
Yeah, I'm with you.
Peter Rosenberg
I think she's a little dirty.
Michael Kay
I think. I think you can. You can get Trixie to do some stuff. Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Okay. How about Don? I think, you know, how about Lilith from the Monsters or Morticia from the Adams family?
Don
Oh, Morticia from the Adams family. Yeah. One stunning. Who was the other one from the Munsters?
Michael Kay
Right there was her. And then who else? Was he doing another comp or the Adams. He just threw one out.
Don
No, the Addams Family.
Peter Rosenberg
Munsters versus Addams Family.
Don
Yeah.
Michael Kay
Oh, oh, oh.
Don
There's Morticia from the Adams family.
Michael Kay
Right?
Peter Rosenberg
And he made it to the 70s. Congrats.
Michael Kay
Who's the blonde from Munsters?
Don
There were two.
Alan Hahn
She was the. No, she was. She was. She was like, supposedly the cousin.
Don
Right.
Michael Kay
But she was not a monster during.
Don
The time they switched it up on you.
Michael Kay
I don't remember that.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, the monsters and Adams family were both 1964.
Don
Oh, yeah.
Michael Kay
No, he's not talking reruns, man.
Don
He's not. You have another one. This is fun.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, just two. I'm sorry. I forgot. Oh, okay. A classic. Marianne or Ginger?
Don
Oh, no, come on. Marianne.
Peter Rosenberg
Marianne for sure.
Michael Kay
Ginger is at high maintenance. We did this at night. We did this. We did this on the show at night.
Alan Hahn
Mrs. Howell or Eldora?
Michael Kay
No, neither. I'm out.
Don
You know, we gave you one too many. We gave you one too many.
Michael Kay
We'll talk next later if you want to call back. Yeah, but that was fun. Let's see. That's.
Don
That's fun. I like what the show's about today.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I. Listen, I'm not saying that those aren't people that people know, but I'm just saying there were. There. No, but. I know, but the audience. That there's an advertising audience. Right, guys? And they're 25 to 54, so.
Michael Kay
Alan, you would have accepted 40 to 54. Get it? That's a. That's a.
Don
So you would have.
Peter Rosenberg
You would have if.
Don
If he dropped a.
Peter Rosenberg
Can I get a Janet? Chrissy, can you at least give me a janitor?
Michael Kay
I thought he was going to get.
Don
There eventually, and to me, the answer is Janet.
Peter Rosenberg
He could have given me the daughters.
Michael Kay
You're out of your mind.
Peter Rosenberg
Comfort Janet.
Don
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
He loves Janet. He's. He's. DeWitt over Summers.
Michael Kay
Yeah. DeWitt over Summers. Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. It's a. It's.
Don
It's.
Peter Rosenberg
It's one of his hottest takes, and.
Don
I don't think I'm standing by myself.
Peter Rosenberg
It's.
Michael Kay
I think you are.
Peter Rosenberg
No, listen, I think it's a reasonable conversation, especially if you look at how things played out over time. I think it aged really well.
Don
Well, that's not where I'm coming from. I'm just saying in the moment.
Michael Kay
I get it.
Don
And I. I think that we've had this conversation.
Peter Rosenberg
I think that I take Cindy over. Over Chrissy, too.
Don
That's interesting.
Michael Kay
What?
Peter Rosenberg
I like Cindy better than Chrissy, but.
Don
I. I do believe.
Peter Rosenberg
Because that's crazy.
Don
Suzanne Summers was such a star, and they Wanted her to look as hot as possible. That I think they dressed down. Janet downplayed her hotness. Downplayed her hotness. But I could show you pictures, Alan.
Peter Rosenberg
It'll blow your mind.
Don
Oh, yeah. From, like, Battle Network Stars. From the battle of Network Stars. I mean, there's no firewall with these.
Michael Kay
Okay, I know we have to go, but I think this will be fast. Megan in the Bronx. Tell me, tell me, Megan. Tell the boys. Personal record. Thank you. See, it's not that hard.
Don
I know, but, Megan, you're the best. See, I don't think about that when I'm doing kickboxing. My personal record, I hit the bag seven times as opposed to.
Michael Kay
Well, how do you know you got better?
Don
Because I feel better.
Michael Kay
You gotta know. You gotta set standards.
Don
You gotta show myself. Can I survive?
Michael Kay
You gotta have a threshold. Well, that's if surviving the day is your goal. I mean, good for you.
Peter Rosenberg
Pr.
Michael Kay
Yeah, that's the thing. Personal record.
Peter Rosenberg
How often?
Don
Personal record.
Michael Kay
So hard to do. Every day. Every day?
Peter Rosenberg
You say that to people every day?
Michael Kay
No, I don't say it.
Peter Rosenberg
You think about it.
Michael Kay
I think about it when I get started, that's what I'm doing. Like, what is my goal? What I do the last time?
Peter Rosenberg
Or.
Michael Kay
All right, I'm going to top it.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm going to hit a gym.
Michael Kay
Some days I don't feel when I can't do it.
Peter Rosenberg
And you think that you're going to tell us that spiel and then follow up with, we shouldn't consider you a gym bro?
Michael Kay
Why is that a gym bro? It's not just a gym thing, to be fair. No. What is it? Personal record could be anything. I know, but anytime you do it in life, when do you switch in competition, in a swim meet, a PR is your best effort at that specific thing. In track, it's. Whatever that is. If it's. Emma ran track, that was a big thing for her. Her. Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Right, Right.
Michael Kay
Why do you find this to be, like, ridiculous?
Peter Rosenberg
No, I'm just saying, Anthony, throwing it.
Michael Kay
Is always about being 1% better every day.
Peter Rosenberg
I get that. In other situations, if you're involved in a competitive sport where they measure your record.
Michael Kay
I'm competing with myself.
Peter Rosenberg
That's what makes you a gym bro.
Michael Kay
I kind of see what Peter's saying now. Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Thank you. Thank you.
Michael Kay
So every day I should just go through the motions, right? Whatever I did yesterday, just do it again today.
Peter Rosenberg
No, you should be a proud gym bro. GB that's you.
Don
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
You don't know what GB stands For stands for Alan.
Don
Ha.
Michael Kay
Jim Crazy Jim bro. Isn't it amazing how like regular people like to push back on people like us? All you out there listening. All you.
Peter Rosenberg
No, it's getting so much worse. It's getting so everybody out there listening.
Michael Kay
This is how they think of us. All we're trying to do is stay healthy. You see what they think about the gym bros?
Richard
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
No, we have to see.
Michael Kay
They got to put a label on.
Peter Rosenberg
We just can't be normal if we don't look down at it, then we'd end up feeling bad about ourselves. We don't want to do that.
Michael Kay
Maria calls. Coming up. Don Han and the gym bro.
Peter Rosenberg
No, you got it wrong. Don Jim bro.
Michael Kay
Rosenberg and a gym bro. It's embarrassing. Yeah.
Don
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Michael Kay
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
Michael Kay
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Peter Rosenberg
No one on my baseball team was going for their PRs. I guess.
Michael Kay
Well, that's why your team sucked.
Don
No, I get the concept. I've just never referred to it as a PR.
Michael Kay
It's. I mean, Gracie, she's 16, but she's.
Peter Rosenberg
She's in the middle of it right now.
Michael Kay
What does that mean?
Peter Rosenberg
She's in the middle of her athletic career right now. So even if it was a thing that most people heard when they were in a workout environment with other people, as the years go on and they're working out by themselves.
Michael Kay
So when you. When you work out that time, do you just like, say, all right, I'm just gonna, like, let me just, you know, sit on this stationary bike for 20 minutes and read. Read my texts. Or do you, like, look at your.
Peter Rosenberg
Numbers and I never do what you're saying by myself. Never. And I will die a fat tub of lard never having been that guy. And guess what? What, Don? I'll have some regrets, but not many.
Michael Kay
So you so defiant about this?
Peter Rosenberg
When I. When I. When I'm seeing my being.
Michael Kay
Being a better version of yourself is something to be mocked.
Peter Rosenberg
When I'm seeing a trainer. When I'm seeing a trainer, my trainer pushes me. But even then, I wouldn't say we're ever writing things down to go for records. I'm just getting pushed till I can't go anymore.
Michael Kay
Just pushes you where? Like right, right to the snack bar. Like when you're in the snack. See, this is. He's really up there.
Peter Rosenberg
Wheels Don. I think we're really learning who he is. And the answer is bad guy.
Don
Real bad guy.
Michael Kay
I'm a bad guy because I care about health.
Peter Rosenberg
I think that's great news because the show needed a heel and now we're finding it.
Michael Kay
Why are you trying to make me the heel?
Peter Rosenberg
It's because you have to.
Michael Kay
I'm the nice guy here.
Don
I just.
Peter Rosenberg
You're the heel.
Don
Here's where I'm pushing back. I understand the concept, all right? Kimball says to me all the time, it's you versus you.
Michael Kay
That's right.
Don
But I never heard referred to it as PR because, well, what you do, that's public relations.
Michael Kay
It's not. Not public relations.
Don
If I hear pr, I think public relations.
Michael Kay
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
Can I get second?
Michael Kay
You can with the mic on.
Peter Rosenberg
Can I get second? Yes. Public relations. Peter Rosenberg. You're not thinking personal record.
Michael Kay
I am.
Peter Rosenberg
Good for you, man. Listen, it's working out. You're thin, you're in great shape. You're very healthy.
Michael Kay
Good shape.
Peter Rosenberg
That's really fantastic.
Don
No, you're in great compared in radio.
Peter Rosenberg
You're in great.
Don
I mean, with the hottest guy in radio. Let's be honest. No, let's be honest.
Michael Kay
Not even at the stage. Really.
Don
It's not really anything professional athlete. There's two trotters versus the general.
Michael Kay
There's two professional athletes at this station that I can get close to being competitive.
Peter Rosenberg
But for a non former athlete, you're right there in the conversation.
Don
I don't count Bart and Rick. They're not Radio guys, they're not regular people.
Peter Rosenberg
Athletes.
Don
Radio. I'm not taking away from their ability to do radio. Everybody will look at them as. There's the former Islander goaltender, there's the former Jet linebacker, and they are always going to be that. So there's a certain state standard. When you think a radio guy, you think Chris Carlin. Now you come walking along like, I can't. Guy can't be in radio. He's good looking, he's fit.
Michael Kay
He must be so bad on tv.
Don
He must be doing a lot of tv.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't like that he brought up Carlin as the.
Michael Kay
Yeah, I didn't know how to react. Why do you do that every time? Did you hear his story today?
Don
Yeah, this is a good.
Michael Kay
I. I tell the story, though.
Don
I actually, actually don't believe it.
Michael Kay
You think it didn't happen?
Peter Rosenberg
Well, is this story really great?
Michael Kay
Oh, no, we don't have it. I thought we had it on the page.
Peter Rosenberg
Should we call him? Is it worth calling him?
Don
The way Michael told me the story.
Michael Kay
Good.
Don
Is that Carlin dated a woman, I guess in college.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, by the way, that's a. Let me play the role. That's a crazy story.
Michael Kay
Go ahead.
Don
Eight years later, she tracked him down at the fan.
Michael Kay
Damn.
Peter Rosenberg
Okay.
Michael Kay
Wow. All right.
Don
Like, she had a hankering for some Carlin eight years later and she tracked them down.
Peter Rosenberg
Okay. But that's the whole story for Chris. That's the story. That is the whole story. That's the story. He's a married man. He's done. Okay.
Michael Kay
This is at the fam. Was he married then?
Peter Rosenberg
No.
Michael Kay
No.
Peter Rosenberg
What I'm saying, is it that exciting that one woman liked Chris.
Don
He's at a point that eight years later, she finally tracked him down. She was looking for him for eight years.
Michael Kay
Remember that goes to the fan wedding.
Don
Start talking about him. I found my man and she tracks him down.
Michael Kay
So how would you handle. Handle that? I mean, there's a little bit of crazy there, but, I mean, I'm gonna make that kind of effort.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, if you did.
Don
Originally. Now, I don't know why they broke up, but let's say they broke up because of her, not him.
Michael Kay
He said he broke up with her.
Don
All right, then maybe there's a reason why he wouldn't try to see what was going on. Eight years.
Michael Kay
He already knows that. That level of. Level of crazy. I understand.
Don
And then. But it does seem like they.
Peter Rosenberg
And also, if you're the kind of woman who's dumped by Chris Carlin, I mean, what are we really talking about.
Don
Actually, that's what he said that that might be.
Michael Kay
He literally said that.
Richard
Exactly.
Michael Kay
He said. Not that it happened often. Right.
Peter Rosenberg
She got dumped by Carlin.
Don
I think for the story, though, to spice it up, he needs to tell us why he broke up with her.
Michael Kay
I agree.
Don
So, Chris, if you're listening, if you want to reach out to Chris, it's been that kind of show today. He can come on and tell the story himself.
Michael Kay
I think that does need to happen.
Don
I need to know why.
Peter Rosenberg
I love where we're at today. By the way, give me this on a Thursday. Every time.
Michael Kay
This is a Thursday. This is who we are.
Peter Rosenberg
I love. We started out with Hackman, which, by.
Michael Kay
The, by the way, still haven't done the movie.
Peter Rosenberg
Underrated, tough name. At certain times in your life, you.
Don
Got to be really good at what you do. If your name's Hackman.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. There's so much going on there with Hackman as your last name. And guess what? No one even thought about it. That's how good he was.
Michael Kay
That's how good he was. Think about it.
Don
So you just said it, right.
Peter Rosenberg
Think about that.
Michael Kay
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Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 1: Sports Movies & PR
Release Date: February 27, 2025
In the debut episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg, hosts Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into the intriguing intersections of sports, cinema, and personal development. Despite the vibrant backdrop of New York sports culture, the trio navigates through a variety of topics, from the mysterious circumstances surrounding Gene Hackman's death to passionate debates over the greatest sports movies of all time.
The episode opens with a somber yet engaging discussion about the unexpected and suspicious death of Hollywood legend Gene Hackman. The hosts dissect the conflicting details surrounding his passing, questioning the official reports.
Don La Greca highlights inconsistencies in the death investigation:
“There was two dogs that survived. So that doesn't jive either.” [08:10]
Peter Rosenberg expresses skepticism about the cause of death, emphasizing the lack of evidence for carbon monoxide poisoning:
“No signs of a leak or any poisoning.” [08:36]
The conversation reveals the hosts' curiosity and concern, as they analyze the elements that make Hackman's death suspicious, including the decomposition signs and the state in which his body was found.
Transitioning from Hackman’s demise, the hosts pivot to his illustrious career, debating which of his films left the most significant impact on audiences and his legacy.
Michael Kay defends Hoosiers, noting its widespread acclaim:
“He has been recognized in airports and other places more for that movie and him as Norman Dale, the coach, than anything else.” [10:33]
Don La Greca counters by advocating for Unforgiven as Hackman’s masterpiece:
“The best movie he was in was Unforgiven, at least by the ratings of the movie.” [11:14]
The debate underscores the subjective nature of film appreciation, with each host bringing unique perspectives based on their experiences and preferences.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to a lively debate over which sports movies deserve the top spots in their personal rankings. The hosts explore various genres within sports films, from inspirational dramas to comedic portrayals.
Michael Kay champions Rocky, lauding its universal appeal and character development:
“It's the biggest sports movie series and got to have Rocky at number one for me.” [12:05]
Peter Rosenberg and Don La Greca add their favorites, citing classics like Raging Bull and Slap Shot:
“Raging Bull I think is just a masterpiece.” [12:15]
“Slap Shot is one of my favorites; I just love that movie.” [12:36]
Alan Hahn introduces comedies into the mix, advocating for Major League:
“The thing I love about Major League is Major League is a goofy comedy.” [38:28]
The conversation reveals the hosts' diverse tastes and the multifaceted nature of sports cinema, highlighting how these films resonate differently with each individual.
Shifting gears, the hosts engage in a humorous and insightful discussion about the concept of Personal Records (PRs) in the gym, playfully teasing each other while exploring the deeper meanings behind striving for personal improvement.
Peter Rosenberg questions the terminology, leading to a playful exchange:
“Don, you're turning yourself into a gym bro.” [44:56]
Michael Kay clarifies his perspective on setting personal goals:
“When do you switch in competition, in a swim meet, a PR is your best effort at that specific thing.” [44:46]
Don La Greca adds his viewpoint, emphasizing the importance of self-improvement without the pressure of comparison:
“What you do, that's public relations.” [48:43]
This segment not only entertains but also prompts listeners to reflect on their own approaches to fitness and personal growth, emphasizing the balance between ambition and self-acceptance.
Throughout the episode, the hosts share personal stories and engage in banter that highlights their camaraderie and deep knowledge of sports and entertainment.
Richard recounts an amusing incident involving Joel Sherman and a cameraman:
“Joel just hauled off and knocked him out.” [24:38]
Peter Rosenberg and Don La Greca continue with light-hearted teasing about each other’s habits and interactions:
“You're the heel.” [48:35]
“You're in great shape.” [49:09]
These interactions provide listeners with a glimpse into the personalities behind the microphones, fostering a sense of connection and familiarity.
As the episode nears its end, the hosts tease upcoming topics and invite listeners to engage further with the show, ensuring that the conversation remains interactive and community-driven.
Michael Kay encourages audience participation:
“We'll take your calls and continue more of this conversation. Stay with us.” [28:57]
Don La Greca and Peter Rosenberg promote future episodes and upcoming discussions, keeping the audience intrigued and eager for more content.
Don, Hahn & Rosenberg successfully intertwines insightful discussions with playful banter, creating an engaging narrative that appeals to sports enthusiasts and movie aficionados alike. By addressing both substantive topics like Gene Hackman’s legacy and relatable themes such as personal fitness, the hosts craft a well-rounded episode that invites listeners to join the conversation and reflect on their own experiences.
Notable Quotes:
Don La Greca on Gene Hackman’s Death:
“There was two dogs that survived. So that doesn't jive either.” [08:10]
Michael Kay on Hoosiers:
“He has been recognized in airports and other places more for that movie and him as Norman Dale, the coach, than anything else.” [10:33]
Peter Rosenberg on Gym Culture:
“How often?” [44:07]
These quotes encapsulate the depth and humor that Don, Hahn & Rosenberg bring to their conversations, making this episode a compelling listen for newcomers and regular listeners alike.