Hour 1: St. John's to Sweet 16

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 1: St. John's to Sweet 16 (March 23, 2026)

Overview

This episode dives deep into the excitement surrounding St. John’s improbable run to the Sweet 16 in the NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament. With co-host Don LaGreca traveling with the Devils, Alan Hahn and Peter Rosenberg lead the conversation, focusing on March Madness, Rick Pitino’s transformative impact at St. John’s, iconic buzzer-beaters, bracket busts, and passionate caller perspectives. They also touch on broader basketball topics, the unique culture of New York sports, and the quirks of working in sports media in the city.

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Main Theme

Celebrating St. John’s Cinderella Journey & March Madness: The episode’s primary focus is the electrifying win by St. John’s over Kansas, their advance to the Sweet 16, and the remarkable coaching of Rick Pitino. The hosts discuss the larger context of this year’s tournament—its wild finishes, personal bracket heartbreaks, and what makes this moment so special for New York sports fans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Aftermath of a Wild Tournament Weekend

• Buzzer Beaters & Upsets ([02:10]–[03:16]):
  • Don Hahn: “From Thursday to Sunday, we had a plethora of buzzer beaters. We had a bunch of upsets that just caught your attention… now it gets real.”
  • Both hosts express how the opening rounds were more engaging than ever, packed with memorable moments.

2. Bracket Standings & Humbling Results

• Hosts’ Bracket Standings ([03:43]–[04:50]):
  • Don is at 98.4% with 520 points, but lost Florida and Gonzaga. Peter has Michigan winning, sits at 31% with 410 points.
  • Memorable banter about navigating the bracket apps, Peter’s indifference to his own picks, and Hahn’s humblebrag: “I’m three out of four, still alive, baby.”

3. Reliving St. John's Thrilling Win

• How the Game Played Out ([05:03]–[06:18]):

  • Set at Madison Square Garden before a Knicks game, Hahn describes the charged atmosphere as fans monitor St. John’s closing minutes.
  • "You heard a cheer when Darling scored that layup and they put the score up first time out in the arena. And it got a huge ovation. So that’s cool to see." — Don Hahn ([06:12])

• Radio Call of the Game-Winner ([06:18]–[06:54]):

  • Play-by-play relived live: “Darling now quickly, Darling down all the way to the hook. Lays it up and split the buzzer. And guess St. John’s advances to the Sweet 16.”
  • Peter: “The Rick Pitino transformation continues.” ([06:42])

4. St. John’s Under Pitino: The Transformation

• Pitino’s Impact ([08:03]–[10:10]):
  • St. John’s now boasts back-to-back 30-win seasons—never before done in program history.
  • Hahn emphasizes the skepticism around Pitino’s hire due to his past but calls the results undeniable.
  • “This is a beautifully ugly basketball brand. This is not beautiful basketball. This is a team that will stifle you, shut you down, outwork you.” — Don Hahn ([09:12])

5. Looking Ahead: Duke vs. St. John’s, the Loaded Regional

• Lively preview of the upcoming Sweet 16 matchup, crowd atmosphere, and strong regional competitors: “If you could get yourself in that building, Friday night, you want to be in that building.” ([11:14])
• Contextualizes how this region (including UConn, Michigan State, Duke, St. John’s) stacks up historically—“That’s an insane regional. Tickets are pretty nuts already.” ([10:44])

6. College Basketball History Corner

• Coaching Legends & Sweet Sixteens ([13:16]–[18:19]):
  • Discussion of Rick Pitino’s rare feat—taking four different schools to the Sweet 16, joining John Calipari and Lon Kruger.
  • Engaging quiz between hosts on Calipari’s and Pitino’s career stops, NBA dalliances, and infamous recruiting sagas.
  • “That’s some special company ... They haven’t gone this deep—two tournament games—since 1999, bro.” — Don Hahn ([19:12])

7. Caller Commentary: Defensive Strategies, "Ugly" Basketball, and STJ's Grit

• Caller “Griftster” on Kansas' breakdowns ([20:01]–[22:35]):

  • Critique of Kansas and Florida’s defensive lapses.
  • “It just scratch…some defensive strategies…What was Kansas doing? …Just allowing someone to just go to the hoop.” — Caller ([20:27])

• Caller Doug & Caller Earl on NY Basketball Identity ([32:54]–[35:12]):

  • Discussions about the perceived “ugliness” of St. John’s style versus NBA standards.
  • “Take it personal, all the way to sweet 16, baby.” — Don Hahn ([34:18])

• Banter about Pitino’s Nickname for Darling ([35:22]–[37:29]):

  • “What does Rick Pitino…call…Darling? Church Bell baby.” — Caller
  • Don explains: “He said he’s got like stones as big as church bells. That’s what he said.”

8. Broader NCAA Tournament Overview

• Analysis of this year’s “chalky” Sweet 16, predominance of top seeds, and historical comparisons ([39:59]–[41:34]):
  • Caller Richard: “You have 12 out of the 16 top fours…so this has got to be the most chalk NCAA tournament that we’ve had in the 40.”
  • Peter: “It’s a very…the field that’s left in the Sweet 16, which is what’s interesting about how I’m still so bad in the tournament, because all I basically did was pick favorites and yet somehow I’ve managed to be terrible…”

9. Quick Hits: Knicks, NBA Proposals, Air Traffic Tragedy

• NBA Tanking and Lottery Format ([38:00]–[39:37]):

  • Caller Richard suggests a tournament among non-playoff teams for the #1 draft pick. Alan: “Here’s why I hate it. I’m not playing for my replacement.” ([39:19])

• Knicks Second Seed Scenario ([50:36]–[51:22]):

  • Hypothetical where Knicks may overtake for the #2 seed. “There is a scenario where by Thursday, the Knicks could actually be in the second seed.”

• Air Traffic Controller Incident ([45:59]–[47:26]):

  • Hosts show somber respect reflecting on the tragic accident at LaGuardia.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On St. John’s Basketball:

  “This is a beautifully ugly basketball brand. This is not beautiful basketball. This is a team that will stifle you, shut you down, outwork you. The offense is not pretty.”
  — Don Hahn ([09:12])

  “The Rick Pitino transformation continues.”
  — Peter Rosenberg ([06:42])

  “Take it personal all the way to sweet 16, baby.”
  — Don Hahn ([34:18])

• On NCAA Tournament Drama:

  “Had that shot gone in, down two, second round of the tournament, 10ft beyond half court for the win. That is immediately like a top five greatest shots of all time.”
  — Peter Rosenberg ([22:39])

• Iconic Moments:

  • Play-by-play of Darling’s game winner relived on air ([06:19]–[06:54])
  • “He’s got like stones as big as church bells. That’s what [Pitino] said!” — Don Hahn ([37:20])

• On New York Sports Energy:

  “There’s no Monday like a post-first weekend of the tournament Monday, when the Tri-State area actually has a vest in weekend two, the Johnny’s. How about that?”
  — Peter ([02:13])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Tournament weekend recap / Buzzer-beaters: [02:10]–[03:16]
• Bracket breakdown & banter: [03:43]–[04:50]
• St. John’s game at the Garden / Game-winner: [05:03]–[06:54]
• Pitino impact; STJ identity: [08:03]–[10:10], [13:16]–[14:26]
• Caller Griftster on defense: [20:01]–[22:35]
• College basketball historical discussion: [13:16]–[18:19]
• ‘Ugly’ basketball argument: [32:54]–[35:12]
• Knicks second seed scenario: [50:36]–[51:09]
• Air traffic control / LaGuardia: [45:59]–[47:26]

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains the classic rhythm of New York sports talk: fast-paced, quick banter, friendly jabs, deep dives, and open lines for passionate fans. Hahn’s encyclopedic basketball knowledge and Rosenberg’s humor and openness foster both depth and playful energy throughout.

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For New Listeners

• This episode is a must-listen for NYC sports fans, especially those following St. John’s or locked into March Madness.
• The hosts’ blend of knowledge, irreverence, and genuine investment in New York sports delivers a fun, spirited, and occasionally poignant take on an iconic sports moment.
• Even if you aren’t following every bracket or local rivalry, you’ll leave with a sense of why March in New York hits different—especially when the Johnny’s make a run.

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Transcript

[Peter]

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[Caller]

Han, Don, Peter. Thank you, Alan. I hope you make the team.

[Peter]

And Rosenberg, Richard, have you ever heard of Brazzers? No, this isn't North Dakota. This is New York.

[Don Hahn]

This is Don, Han and Rosenberg.

[Caller]

The best threesome I've ever heard on

[Don Hahn]

ESPN New York and streaming live on YouTube. Just keep the camera on the empty seat. All right. Just keep the camera right there. This one empty seat, post chair. I just want you to make sure that you see the empty seat in the host chair because I'm alone in the studio. Oh, my man went shopping. That's what he did.

[Peter]

Sorry.

[Don Hahn]

He went shopping.

[Peter]

Oh, what's up? Michael was out on time today. You don't see this.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, you didn't hear him blow up at the beginning of his show because Carlin took it about, you know, 30 seconds too late.

[Peter]

He went after Carlin. Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Not happy. So that's why you knew he was going to be tidy today.

[Caller]

Wow.

[Peter]

So he was right on point. I was in the middle of a deep conversation with my great program director, John Winthrop. And here we are right at three on the dot, on the go.

[Don Hahn]

Everybody's ready for this. And so we don't have Don today because he's traveling with the Devils.

[Peter]

I'm glad, glad to see Donnie back on the road hanging out with.

[Don Hahn]

Hanging out with the Devils.

[Peter]

Hanging with the Devils as he's want to.

[Don Hahn]

Running with the Devils.

[Peter]

By the way, isn't that very, very on brand for Don? Like that's what I mean.

[Don Hahn]

If you, if you told like a 70 year old don one day somebody's going to say, don's not in today because he's running with the Devils. Yeah, he'd be like, that's right.

[Peter]

His buddies in school would be like, that's right.

[Don Hahn]

That's so rock and roll, man.

[Peter]

But this on the whole, Peter died today.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter]

Do you know there's no Monday like a Post first weekend of the tournament Monday, when the Tri State area actually has a vest in weekend two, the Johnny's. How about that?

[Don Hahn]

How about that? It. The first weekend's always fun, but generally it just. Then from here on in, it gets chalked. But here's where the games get real and you start seeing better competition. But, I mean, we had buzzer beaters

[Peter]

in the Johnny's game.

[Don Hahn]

We had. I'm saying all weekend, from Thursday to Sunday, we had a plethora of buzzer beaters. We had a bunch of, like, upsets that just caught your attention. There was a lot going on this weekend in the tournament that made it a lot of fun. And now, like I said, now it gets real. So do you have somebody in your Final Four that is gone now that messed up the bracket?

[Peter]

I'd have to look at my bracket.

[Don Hahn]

You don't remember?

[Peter]

No, that's how bad I am at this point.

[Don Hahn]

Well, Florida screwed it up for me.

[Peter]

You had Florida in the Final Four?

[Don Hahn]

Yes, I did.

[Peter]

A lot of people did. I'm sure that took out many.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it did take out. Let's take a look here.

[Peter]

I know Don was killing the rest of my.

[Don Hahn]

The rest of my bracket is. Is. Is pretty good. Like, I'm. Like I said, I'm in good. I'm in good shape, and I'm trying to get my. My number. Don lost Gonzaga and Florida.

[Peter]

Oh, Donald.

[Don Hahn]

Did he really go against Zaga? He really did, yes. Well, you mean when I. When. When we say he, we mean you.

[Peter]

It looks like there are no perfect brackets remaining. No, sadly.

[Don Hahn]

But I'm at 98.4%.

[Peter]

All right, so my Final Four is. Yeah, I have Michigan winning the whole thing.

[Don Hahn]

What's your percentage, by the way?

[Peter]

I'm at 31%.

[Don Hahn]

Yikes.

[Peter]

I have 410 points.

[Don Hahn]

I have 520.

[Peter]

I have Duke and Michigan in the finals. That's all right. All right.

[Don Hahn]

There you go. That's what I have.

[Peter]

And how do I find the other teams here? Oh, Gonzaga.

[Don Hahn]

Slide over.

[Peter]

I got Gonzaga. Looks like I got Gonzaga.

[Don Hahn]

You got Gonzaga. So my Final Four was Duke, which is still alive.

[Peter]

How do you see just the Final Four?

[Don Hahn]

You just slide it over, man. Oh, you're. Yeah, slide over. There's a button in the bottom, right. You went too far. Slide the other way.

[Peter]

This way.

[Don Hahn]

Other way. There you go.

[Peter]

That's your Final Four.

[Don Hahn]

That's your final.

[Peter]

I have Duke, Houston, Gonzaga, and Michigan.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I had Duke, Florida, Arizona, and Michigan. So I'm three out of four. Still alive, baby. And I'm still feeling good about it, to be honest with you.

[Peter]

As you should.

[Don Hahn]

My max is 1640.

[Peter]

Wait, Houston, still alive, right?

[Don Hahn]

They are.

[Peter]

All right, good. So I got three or four, too. All right.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

As you could tell, I'm locked in. But I will say this, considering I said that on Friday or Thursday, yep. This is the least into the tournament I've been ever. I ended up being locked in basically all weekend. Had a great time.

[Don Hahn]

It just had fun moments.

[Peter]

Really did.

[Don Hahn]

And it's just one of those things where you get those alerts and you're like, oh, I got to jump in on this game. Jump in on that game. Whatever they were, it was worth watching. But really the thrilling one, of course, was what St. John's was able to do with Kansas. Like, how that game went, how they were up 14, I thought, like, it was before the Knicks game last night. And of course, everybody at the Garden is vested in it.

[Peter]

Oh, yeah.

[Don Hahn]

And so as we're starting the pregame show, I'm just letting you know, people know, like, listen, you know, just. Just let me know what's happening in the game while we're recording stuff. And then last I saw, they're up 14. When we get done doing some prerecord stuff, walking down to the other studio now, security guard stopped me. He goes, see a St. John score. I'm like, last I saw 14. He goes, it's not that anymore. Oh, boy. And then I go in to see one of. One of our directors, and he goes, it's a lot closer than that now. So I check the screen and I see it's a two point game. And now it's like, okay, it's getting real. And that ending was wild. And there were people obviously in the building. This is pre game again. Nothing's really happening. You heard a cheer when Darling scored that layup and they put the score up first time out in the arena. And it got a huge ovation. So that's cool to see.

[Peter]

You want to hear the call?

[Don Hahn]

Of course I want to hear the call.

[Peter]

Here's what it sounded like on 10:50am ESPN. New York now with 3.9. St. John's will inbound the ball at mid court.

[Caller]

Hopkins will inbound.

[Peter]

It does so to Darling.

[Don Hahn]

Darling now quickly, Darling down all the way to the hook.

[Caller]

Lays it up and split the buzzer. And guess St. John's advances to the Sweet 16.

[Peter]

The Rick Pitino transformation continues.

[Don Hahn]

The latest installment, a date in Washington against Duke.

[Peter]

The Red Storm come away with the victory.

[Don Hahn]

Here I Love the call. And guess what.

[Peter]

Oh, and I got to guess what? You can hear them again on Friday.

[Don Hahn]

Guess. It's the radio. You need to tell.

[Peter]

You can't. That's a great point by you.

[Don Hahn]

But it's a phone call, though.

[Peter]

10:50 on this, this Friday, when the Johnny's take on Duke and I will be now fully in on St. John's

[Don Hahn]

what time's that tip?

[Peter]

Give me a tip. Time.

[Don Hahn]

Seven ten.

[Peter]

I knew it. I was gonna guess seven ten.

[Don Hahn]

It's very workable. First game on Friday.

[Peter]

It's very workable. What's your situation?

[Don Hahn]

Don't have a game Friday night.

[Peter]

Oh, baby.

[Don Hahn]

First Friday in like a month and a half that we haven't had a game.

[Peter]

I have a drop to go with that.

[Don Hahn]

Really?

[Peter]

Feeling. I said no, no, no, no. I have a drop to sum up how you feel. No, it's not. It's not. It's not that. But it's similar to that.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

It's not. No, it's not. That's rich. No, they play hard. They play good. Yeah, that's it. That's. That's my description. It's. You know what?

[Caller]

I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

Top shelf analysis we have.

[Peter]

I got it.

[Don Hahn]

I got it. Okay.

[Peter]

God bless.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter]

That's how you feel on a Friday night?

[Don Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter]

God bless.

[Don Hahn]

God bless is right.

[Peter]

So enjoy that. No, it was a great, great weekend. Excited to do it again. It seemed like even Don was kind of in on the tourney.

[Don Hahn]

I saw activity on the chat he was in that tells me that he's paying attention and that is good. But how much, like first of all, Rick Patino and the job he's done there, back to back, what is it? The 30 wins? Right. Like the run that they have been on with him, it was such a no brainer. I remember two years ago when they

[Peter]

were 30 and 6, they ended up. They got to 30. Yep.

[Don Hahn]

Back to back 31 season.

[Peter]

That's crazy. I know.

[Don Hahn]

You know the last time that happened in St. John's history?

[Peter]

Never.

[Don Hahn]

It'd be never.

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

So it was amazing that there was at least a debate about whether or not St. John should go for Rick Petillo. I remember this. He was at Iona and there were some people like, I don't know if you could do that. I don't know. Because again, of the. The history that he had, obviously from Louisville and what. What had him out of college basketball for a little while. And there were some people that were hesitant about it and thought maybe he was Too old and past his problem and all that stuff. Are you kidding me? What he's been able to do and it's not like they have. This is not. And I know all you Johnny fans understand something and you gotta admit it. This is a beautifully ugly basketball brand. This is not beautiful basketball. This is a team that will stifle you, shut you down, outwork you. The offense is not pretty. It's not a juggernaut offense, which is I think the only thing keeping them from being a team that you could, you would say, oh, I think this team could win the whole thing. Because that's the one thing lacking. They do shoot threes and when they do make them, they are a really good team. The problem is they're not really a high level three point shooting team. So you know you're going to get ugly. Basketball, you got that first half against Kansas was not great basketball, but it was exactly the way St. John's wants to play. They want to come in and they just want to bully you and stifle you and frustrate you. And that's what they did in that game. And that's what they're going to have to do against Duke. I mean, you're talking about like one of the premier pro, you know, brands in college basketball and you're trying to take them out.

[Peter]

Yeah, you have 30 wins.

[Caller]

Great.

[Peter]

Duke has 34.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, well, they're very good. They're also the one seed. You were a five seat. I told you, the chip on the shoulder thing. Every, every team now from here on out, they're going to be playing somebody higher seated than them. So the revenge tour begins in your, your old stomping grounds. It's down in D.C. down in D.C. baby. It's not that far from here. That place should be filled with St.

[Peter]

John's oh, that, that, I mean that's about as.

[Don Hahn]

Duke's going to bring up a ton of stuff.

[Peter]

Well, they bring them everywhere. But you should, that should be a good traveling spot for St. John's what's the.

[Don Hahn]

It's Yukon, right? Michigan State, like that's an insane regional. Tickets are pretty nuts already. Oh, it's gotta be. Think about, think about that regional Friday night. It's. It's Yukon, Duke, Michigan State. So you got Izzo, Duke and then you, Gottino and St. John's dude, who's taking over that building? That, that place? Like I said, if you wanted a road trip and you could get yourself in that building, Friday night, you want to be in that building.

[Peter]

That's that's there ain't. They're in another bracket like that currently in the tournament. Let's see on the other side across

[Don Hahn]

another bracket that's got that. Those four powerhouse kind of.

[Peter]

The other side across from that you got Arizona.

[Don Hahn]

That's good.

[Peter]

Yeah, they're. They're blue, bloodish Arkansas.

[Don Hahn]

Cal. Coach.

[Peter]

Cal, listen, I like that team, you know, and Bill, listen, we're going to be. Nolan Richardson. I'm going to bring up some names for you. Tell me what you remember. Oliver Miller.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, my God.

[Peter]

Hell of a ball player. Chubby Feller. Texas and Purdue, much like myself, we have a lot of things to come. Both like McDonald's, Michigan out the other one down, down there on the right. Midwest is Michigan, Alabama, you know who's recently been Tennessee and Iowa State. It's like the next. It's Michigan and the next tier.

[Don Hahn]

Pretty good.

[Peter]

Pretty good.

[Don Hahn]

That's pretty good.

[Peter]

Then across from there in the south, you have. I won Nebraska.

[Don Hahn]

That's football.

[Peter]

Illinois.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter]

And Houston, who like Alabama is back to being Houston. One of those.

[Don Hahn]

And they're just like St. John's too, by the way.

[Peter]

I like that Houston. I like that. The Houston college basketball program was absolutely lit in the early 80s and the 2000s and that is it. Like they only existed as far as I knew in jama in old videos where Jimmy Valvano is running around like, that's Ralph Sampson. It's going back 47.

[Don Hahn]

And now they're back to that. Yeah, it's.

[Peter]

But in the middle. I don't remember anything.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, you don't. There isn't. I don't think there is.

[Peter]

And they're just back. It's.

[Don Hahn]

Houston is back, but Kelvin Sampson, he's a great coach, man.

[Peter]

That's. That's the thing about college. And just like you brought with Patino, people were scared to touch Patino.

[Don Hahn]

And I understand why. You know, there was some toxicity, but not enough.

[Peter]

Not enough for how good he is, though. Not. It would have to be more toxicity for the way he will turn your program around. It's a guarantee.

[Don Hahn]

That's. That's the great example, isn'. And it's sort of like, yeah, but what can he do for you right now?

[Peter]

Make you good instantly.

[Don Hahn]

What has he done? It's. It's really remarkable in a Sweet sixteen again. So it's the fourth college basketball program he's taken to a Sweet sixteen. Okay. There is only two other coaches who have done it. One is gonna be hard for you to guess. One you should get fourth. Different program. So it means a coach that's been around to some other places.

[Peter]

Well, that's what I'm saying.

[Don Hahn]

Had success at all of them.

[Peter]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Enough success to get to a sweet 16. Yes.

[Peter]

So Cal is one.

[Don Hahn]

Name the schools.

[Peter]

UMass.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter]

Kentucky.

[Don Hahn]

Yes. Now where's.

[Peter]

Now again?

[Don Hahn]

You just. You just were doing the bill.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

You were looking at.

[Peter]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Arkansas. Forgot he moved down there. Arkansas 1.

[Don Hahn]

You forget he had one of the best, like, players of just the last generation in the NBA.

[Peter]

But it was post Kentucky.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. No, it was pre Kentucky.

[Peter]

Pre Kentucky.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Pre. Kentucky had had a number one overall pick. Come on. This one is easy.

[Peter]

It is.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Yeah. Lovely. Lovely. Point guard. Unfortunate injury early in his career. One of the best.

[Peter]

Well, no. Lovely. Oh, Derrick Rose.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter]

Oh, come on.

[Don Hahn]

It's close. This is like a segment called Peter Knows Sports. But you really know that you. Because you're close.

[Peter]

No, I know everything. I want to really guide myself together.

[Don Hahn]

I'm battling through this with you because, like, between you and Don, who would have gotten there first? That's what I want to see. I lost a bracket this year with this team.

[Peter]

You lost a bracket this year with this.

[Don Hahn]

Not that. That year or one of the team. Okay, okay.

[Peter]

Where did Derrick Rose go to college?

[Don Hahn]

He was there for about a semester.

[Peter]

Got Dave Roth.

[Don Hahn]

Dave Rothenberg's yellow.

[Peter]

He passed out. Dave Rothenberg passed out all the way.

[Don Hahn]

Blood is left. He's dead. He was even part of the NBA franchise that was associated with the city. Yeah, briefly.

[Peter]

There's an NBA franchise associated with same

[Don Hahn]

city which has a point guard who everybody, you know would, like, relate to. He's just like Derek. He could be just like D. Rose.

[Peter]

You're making it worse now.

[Don Hahn]

No, it's easier screaming at you.

[Peter]

It's. Why don't we focus on how quickly I remember the song about the city. There's a song about the city?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

There's a song about so many cities.

[Don Hahn]

I know, but there's a song about this city.

[Peter]

You mean Jay Z and Alicia Keys. Empire State of Mind. He went to the nyu. I remember that for a moment.

[Don Hahn]

So.

[Peter]

It's staring me right in the face.

[Don Hahn]

Put on my blue sweet shoes and

[Peter]

I didn't say Memphis.

[Don Hahn]

No, you didn't say Memphis. He did now. And now you did.

[Peter]

Oh, I was literally thinking of Memphis because that's when. That's when Drake became friends with. Oh, no, Drake became friends with the Kentucky. Right, but it was Memphis.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

Yeah. Oh, sorry.

[Don Hahn]

I see how we got him there, though.

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

With music.

[Peter]

Mark Cohn with music. But I truly remember the Memphis years very well. I mean, it was a. How many years was he there?

[Don Hahn]

Not many.

[Peter]

Cal was there for a few, though. Three or four.

[Don Hahn]

A couple. But he was there from 2000 to 2009.

[Peter]

Oh, wow.

[Don Hahn]

For nine years.

[Peter]

Yeah. Like, it was.

[Don Hahn]

Because I remember the whole, like, who took his SAT thing came out and then Cal had to exit stage left. That's right.

[Peter]

Honestly, I. I gotta tell you. You remember. That's the thing that's impressive about Cal. You remember every stop pretty well. Because the UMass stop was a big deal.

[Don Hahn]

Was Camby. Yeah. And the Case. That's the other dude. Lou Rowe.

[Peter]

Dante Bright.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, they had a nice squad.

[Peter]

Some of the only banners they had

[Don Hahn]

hanging up there still probably.

[Peter]

No, I remember every one of them.

[Don Hahn]

All right, so doesn't have the Hockey east championship banner.

[Peter]

So Coach Cal. And you said Patino obviously joined. One of them is going to be hard to get. So there's a third one that's gettable.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. This one. I couldn't have gotten this one either.

[Peter]

Oh, really?

[Don Hahn]

Lon Kruger.

[Peter]

No.

[Don Hahn]

There you go.

[Peter]

Thank you.

[Don Hahn]

You can hit strange pull anytime you want. Although he's a great. He was a great college coach.

[Peter]

Hold on. But that was the hard one. Or that's your second.

[Don Hahn]

That's the hard.

[Peter]

But there's a third one I don't negate.

[Don Hahn]

It's Patino.

[Peter]

No, Patino.

[Don Hahn]

Tino's the third.

[Peter]

Cal. Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

And Lon Kruger.

[Peter]

Oh, I thought it was four.

[Don Hahn]

No, he's the third.

[Peter]

Yeah, okay. Got it. Yeah, but four schools is tough, man. A lot of people who did it, you know.

[Don Hahn]

Can you name Patino's four schools?

[Peter]

Well, Iona, St. John's Iona. Oh, no. Iona didn't get there. No, you turned them around, but didn't. What?

[Don Hahn]

Sweet 16.

[Peter]

Oh, it's sweet 16.

[Don Hahn]

I think Rick's been at five schools. Help from the audience, of course.

[Peter]

Providence. Oh, Providence.

[Don Hahn]

That's the one I didn't think you'd get Louisville. The first one. Providence 87. Got to the Final Four.

[Peter]

Providence was before anything.

[Don Hahn]

Pop Lewis and them boys, and he always liked them up. He talked them up. They played. Didn't they play in the Big East? Who they?

[Peter]

Providence.

[Don Hahn]

St. John's versus Providence.

[Peter]

Didn't they.

[Don Hahn]

He talked them up again, saying, like, I love that program. Oh, yeah, of course. He helped put it on the map.

[Peter]

That was a big, big rivalry.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. But you. You do remember before Louisville, Kentucky. There you go.

[Peter]

Celtics, Knicks did not get the Celtics. What about the Knicks? Did they get the sweet 16?

[Don Hahn]

No. No. Actually, you know what? I think they did well.

[Peter]

You know, the Celtics, they won a first round and the Celtics thing was interesting because it went so bad.

[Don Hahn]

But Larry Bird's not walking through that door.

[Peter]

Larry Bird's not walking through that door. Went really bad. But they drafted some players that didn't work out in Boston, like Chauncey Billups, but then went on to be successful everywhere else. So you're like, he did read the talent.

[Don Hahn]

He tanked for Antoine Walker.

[Peter]

By the way, I do it again. You know how I feel about Antoine.

[Don Hahn]

I know you love him. You love you some Antoine. So anyway, but that's, that's some. That's some special company that he's in. But for St. John's also, they haven't gone this deep and we're saying this deep. Winning two tournament games since 1999, bro.

[Peter]

You know they beat 1999 to get there. That was the Steve. That was the Steve Francis led Maryland Terrapins. Wow. That was a bad night in College park when St. John's beat us in the tournament.

[Don Hahn]

That was Run our test.

[Peter]

That was Felipe Lopez run our test. Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Good team. Mike Jarvis. Was he the coach?

[Peter]

Am I getting that right? I don't think Mike Jarvis was.

[Don Hahn]

It wasn't Mike Jarvis.

[Peter]

I thought he was still in. No. Is Mike Jarvis a strange pull?

[Don Hahn]

It's not a strange. That's former GW coach Mike Jarvis to have been Jarvis. Right? It wasn't like for Shella or any of those dudes. 98 to 03.

[Caller]

Come on.

[Peter]

Come on, bro.

[Caller]

Right there.

[Peter]

I'm not mad at that. We'll do strange pole college basketball all day, guys. You want to strange pull it?

[Don Hahn]

Wait, we probably need to.

[Peter]

No, let's go to. Let's go to. Let's go to Griffin.

[Don Hahn]

Let's workshop.

[Peter]

1-800-919-3776. We got the Griftster to start things off. What's up, Griftster?

[Caller]

Hey, guys. You know last yesterday with the Florida game and also the end of the Kansas and St. John's game, it just. It scratch. You scratch your head with some defensive strategies or something. What was Kansas doing? They were fouling. Great, great, great.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And they're just allowing someone to just go to the hoop.

[Don Hahn]

Well, and then Florida coach says the defensive breakdowns. That, that, that game. I can't even begin to tell you that. I can't even begin to tell you the Florida one. But, but the bucket Again, Darling's bucket on the drive. He's going right. And they don't take that away.

[Caller]

And that's his.

[Don Hahn]

And then there's no help. It's. And it's almost like the guard didn't want to foul, which is no man. Like make him earn it. It's.

[Caller]

And then the Florida one. And then their coach says, we were trying to get a steal. Yeah, we were trying to f. I was like, I. I didn't even understand what he was saying because you just give them a clean. A clean weight of the hoop or something. It just. It just straightly made no sense. And then at the end, can we at least try to draw up a play and get a shot? Four point something seconds. Enough time to try to get a shot. What are we doing just going to the hooping scene?

[Don Hahn]

We have to remember either. We have to remember that a lot of the pressure does go on the coach, not the players. I hate calling out the players, despite the fact that I know nil. They're getting millions of dollars now and all that stuff. But still, they're still 19 and 20 years old. Like, they still are early stages of development when it comes to basketball iq. You have to rely on your coach in those situations, which is why a lot of times they call timeout. There was a game like, was it Friday? Who was it that was trying to call a timeout? Wright State. Somebody was trying to call a timeout and couldn't get the timeout. And the kid hit the tying three. And it was crazy. But that's your job. Like you got to be the one to do it. And then there was the. Oh, my God. Then you were talking about the shot that rattled out. You couldn't believe it.

[Peter]

Couldn't.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

On. On Saturday night.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, my God.

[Peter]

Like it was perfect.

[Don Hahn]

Everything was. And that kid deserved it. The game.

[Peter]

He was having 29 points, I think at the time.

[Don Hahn]

Hardback ripped your heart.

[Peter]

And it was from like 10ft behind the half court.

[Don Hahn]

And it was on money. Money just rattled out.

[Peter]

It would have been. I was thinking about that. Had that gone in. They were down 2. Who was it again, guys? Jacob, who was the near buzzer beater on Saturday night? We were just from beyond half court.

[Don Hahn]

Vandy and Nebraska. Nebraska. Yes, yes.

[Peter]

That shot.

[Don Hahn]

Sophomore kid. I can't think of Andy. He had a hell of a game.

[Peter]

Had that shot gone in. Down two. Second round of the tournament. 10ft beyond half court for the win. That is immediately like a top five greatest shots of all time.

[Don Hahn]

That's a One shining moment.

[Peter]

Video forever that lives forever.

[Don Hahn]

That was up there with Leitner, with all of them.

[Peter]

It was an inch. What a shot.

[Don Hahn]

If the ribs were a little softer,

[Peter]

Just a tad, a little bit. Well, guess what? Speaking of madness, it continues, folks. Right now. Drop Madness continues. A big day to get your vote on.

[Don Hahn]

Let's go.

[Peter]

I'll set you guys up. You play them. Let's start in the flub region with the big number three seed, Hard Dog. Well, you know how I feel about hard dog. That's the three up against the 14. Don and I talked about starting a what's up? Group chat, and Don and I are the only people in our group.

[Don Hahn]

What's up?

[Peter]

What's up? I. I think that's gonna be an easy day for Harbor.

[Don Hahn]

It probably would, I think.

[Peter]

I think Richard's cruising in the second.

[Don Hahn]

But I do think that drop is very like. Like that's a dad talking about an app and all those kids are going, what's that? What's up App Dad. Yeah, it's one of them what's up apps.

[Peter]

You know, the look face in the flub region, the six seed, somebody went

[Don Hahn]

behind a couch and found like a

[Peter]

Harness Wagner rookie card or something.

[Don Hahn]

You never know. Harness Wagner. Hornets. Hornets. That's still a stupid name, but we don't let you up, do we? No, no, we don't let you up.

[Peter]

No. Speaking of which, up against the 11 seed.

[Don Hahn]

You think Jarek Jeter would have allowed this?

[Peter]

Who's Jarek Jeter?

[Don Hahn]

Jarek, we don't let you up on this show.

[Peter]

Funny region, the three seed. You're a filth bag. You're a sex star. Filth bag. Up against the 14. Listen, you're lucky. You score a point.

[Caller]

You suck.

[Peter]

The six seed. Click. Oh, this is. Why won't you click?

[Caller]

I don't know.

[Peter]

Up against the 11.

[Don Hahn]

If he was that bad.

[Peter]

Oh, my goodness.

[Don Hahn]

Going down. Finally. Good.

[Peter]

No, guys, let it die. We cannot let Southern Allen lose to one of 10 Don Drops. Like, guys, can we be realistic?

[Don Hahn]

No, I told Anthony already, no way Southern island is winning that. No, it is. That's going to be the upset for today. I'm sorry.

[Peter]

Listen, it's over. Don yells in like 10 drops in the tournament. Is Kliq really the one that needs to take out Southern Allen?

[Don Hahn]

Click is such a funny.

[Peter]

It's a good drop, but I mean, it's usable.

[Don Hahn]

It's a high usage drop now.

[Peter]

But that Southern Allen's become very high usage too. For every other time when you say something Southern. Let's go to the troubling region, the three seed. Hey, La cra. Open your mouth. I'm more done yelling up against the 14.

[Don Hahn]

I'm gonna do it in my pants.

[Peter]

All right. This is a Fun1. The sixth seed. Hey, Anthony. You would see me.

[Caller]

Excuse me. Oh, no.

[Don Hahn]

Uh oh. We lost him. He gone. This the. He gone.

[Peter]

The heat gone at the end is. It's a lot of. A lot of freestyling on that one. That adds to it. All right, everyone, quiet. Let's listen to everyone's favorite 11 seed. Anthony's weird noise before. Oh, boy. I really hope it goes away.

[Don Hahn]

That's another upset.

[Peter]

You think so? I can't. I think it could. I don't want to hear it anymore. It's very uncomfortable before. That's the 11 seed.

[Don Hahn]

It is. That's. That's the. That's the skin of that should be trouble.

[Peter]

Yeah, it is in trouble. Let's go to the nether region, folks.

[Caller]

And I know Zach Saber. He was the crew chief. He's a Brooklyn guy, used to call games at the Jewish center on Eastern parkway.

[Peter]

That's the three seat up against the Jacob's. Very awkward 14.

[Don Hahn]

It's chilly time. I stand no chance. I had someone in your conference tournament. Maybe next year. The fact that we confirmed Zack Zarba did actually ref at the Jewish Parkway.

[Peter]

Unbelievable. The sixth seed Griftster.

[Caller]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Peter]

Up against the 11 seed Griftster.

[Caller]

Whoopee do.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, wow. Friendly fight.

[Peter]

Yeah. Griff on Griff crime. Go vote right now. Dhrespn on Twitter. Get your votes in early and often. We'll vote for the rest of the program. We're on till 7 o' clock tonight. A full vehicle. We'll continue with your phone calls. 1-800-919-3776 Starting off college basketball, we got to get into some Knicks. A lot of other NBA things to get to. Baseball is here this week. It's Don Hanna Rosenberg on ESPN New York. There's a lot of reasons why people buy at Ramsey Mazda. It's their selection, it's their customer service, and it's their savings. Lisa New 2026 Mazda CX 32.5s preferred. All whee. For just $219 for 36 months. Start shopping now at RamseyMazda.com. choose wisely. Choose Ramsey Mazda. Call 833-853-2970 for details. Vin TM 108368 MSRP $31,435 0 Security deposit ends 331.26Amazon Hub delivery Wants to

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. You know who was oh yeah over at Hudson Square this morning? Oh yeah, some get up that I did this morning. Oh yeah, Iman Shumpert was with us, which was awesome. Yeah, good dude is Cory Booker, the senator.

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Just all of a sudden in the hallway, there he is down here at Hudson Square. Yeah, he was on. He was online, probably. Gma, I'm guessing. Oh. So. But it's like one of these things where when you walk around a place like that and you just don't know who's just suddenly going to walk in front of you.

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

And it's like, is it all in the same.

[Peter]

It's all the same building, all the same.

[Don Hahn]

We're all in the same area. Yeah, but it's wild. Like, you just. We walk out of our studio because we're done with our segment and you're heading to the green room, just to whatever. And you turn and now there's all these dressing rooms in a row.

[Caller]

Right.

[Don Hahn]

And so GMA puts all their celebrities in there.

[Peter]

Oh, you can run into some good people there.

[Don Hahn]

Like, I know the hall you're talking about. Yeah.

[Peter]

You know, I was there once before I was unceremoniously dismissed.

[Don Hahn]

You weren't dismissed.

[Peter]

No, I just haven't been used. But I remember.

[Don Hahn]

But you've been down the street.

[Peter]

I did, I did, I did. I think one or two shows down at the new place.

[Don Hahn]

Okay. So you know what I'm talking about. So. And all of a sudden, like, it's a recognizable face. We've seen him before.

[Peter]

Sure. You have.

[Don Hahn]

Stops and he does. Like, it's amazing what politicians do. And he meant well, but it's just a very politician thing. It's this. It's like you stop at you.

[Peter]

Hey, hey there.

[Don Hahn]

Like, like it's the lean forward, arm extended, eye contact.

[Peter]

Right. Right when he.

[Don Hahn]

The lean forward part where he's just like, dude, I'm like, I'm six feet.

[Peter]

You don't have to lean down.

[Don Hahn]

Like, don't, don't lean, don't. I'm up here. Well, he was very friendly, very kind, very, you know, I introduced myself, he said, I know who you are, you know, which.

[Peter]

Which is possible. It's possible, but it's a politician, so you never know.

[Don Hahn]

But that's what I mean. Like, yeah, you're a TV guy. So I'm supposed to say this, but it was cool. Like, it was just. But it's one of those. You never know who. You can run into it in a moment's notice and what is your reaction to them. And normally it's always just a hello and keep it moving.

[Peter]

Cory Booker is a nice guy. He can be a tad cringe.

[Don Hahn]

You think so? I don't know much about him. I just know He's Jersey roots.

[Peter]

He has, he has his cringe. I mean I'm not in politics. I'm talking about just as like a public. Public figure who's human. He can be a little cringe at times, but totally nice guy.

[Don Hahn]

He seemed nice. Who else was on.

[Peter]

Yeah, Chump. Who else was on Chump?

[Don Hahn]

Orlovsky was there with. Do you and me do with. Yeah, yeah. J. Mac and the. The stuff Orlovsky was talking about is very jets related. Oh yeah, we will get to.

[Peter]

We'll get to it.

[Don Hahn]

We'll get to that. Yeah, but you binge at 430.

[Peter]

Yeah. Like you dream about.

[Don Hahn]

If you're a Jets fan, you need to hear what Dan.

[Peter]

And there's a lot of jets and non jets related stuff to get to.

[Don Hahn]

There's a lot. Yes. But the jets related stuff to me could be its own segment. It's that good.

[Peter]

Well, right now we're talking. Tony, we got Doug in St. James wants to get in. What's up, Doug?

[Caller]

How we doing, guys? Big fan, Big fan of the show.

[Peter]

Thanks, buddy.

[Caller]

I just wanted to ask both you guys, why are NBA fans looking at last night's St. John's game and saying it's such an ugly, terrible game. When. When I saw it, I saw awesome defense and gritty work ethic and a lot less fouls and a lot more action.

[Don Hahn]

What NBA fans are saying this.

[Caller]

Well, I'm in New York, so I hear a large faction of Knicks fans, but I've seen it from all across the country.

[Don Hahn]

Mommy. I think it's the style of play that everybody knows patino plays. They are hard team to play against. They play gritty, they stifle you. They'll take any team that wants to go up and down. They'll take any team that wants to play fast and they will frustrate you. That's what he does. It's literally how those games go.

[Peter]

And it was. The first half was extremely.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. And you're not going to shoot well. And poor shooting is not really.

[Peter]

It was like 14 all with a few minutes left in the half.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Caller]

They were cold.

[Peter]

I mean but that's still. That is. That's dog shoe ugly.

[Don Hahn]

But I don't want you. First of all, don't take it personal. It is not a personal attack on your favorite team. I think it is.

[Caller]

Just want to let you know I am taking a personal.

[Peter]

But yeah, he's taking it personal.

[Don Hahn]

Take it personal all the way to sweet 16, baby.

[Peter]

There you go.

[Don Hahn]

Take it personal all the way To Duke.

[Peter]

Let's go to Earl in Brooklyn. What's up, Earl?

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, guys? Hey, Peter.

[Peter]

Yo.

[Caller]

I know you're a big St. John's fan, I think. I'm not sure.

[Peter]

No.

[Caller]

Great game.

[Peter]

I'm not even a little bit. But I'm here for him right now. No, but I'm jumping on the bandwagon.

[Don Hahn]

Are you?

[Peter]

Why not?

[Caller]

I got you. I got you.

[Peter]

Terps didn't even make the tournament. For God's sake.

[Don Hahn]

You're not even a basketball school.

[Peter]

Yeah, exactly. So what do you got?

[Caller]

If you can take. If you can take. If you can take four different teams, sweet 16. And you have confidence in one player who hasn't hit a shot all game. And you listen to him and say, hey, Coach, let's run power one. And you say, okay. You got confidence in that guy and he delivers. That's a team that's been listening all season. For one thing. They can't go in the next game shooting the way they shot.

[Don Hahn]

Nope.

[Caller]

Yesterday against Duke.

[Don Hahn]

Can you can't be 1135 from 3. Can I ask you. Can I ask you a question, sir? Yes, If I may, sir?

[Caller]

Yes. Yes, sir.

[Don Hahn]

What. What does Rick Pitino. What. What did he call. What's his nickname for darling? What's his nickname?

[Caller]

Church Bell baby.

[Don Hahn]

Why does he call him that?

[Peter]

Well, this guy's got a lot of

[Caller]

quizzes today because he called him Church Bell. Because he's gonna take the last second shot in a couple of games this season. Right? And they heard him like the Nick. Church bells. Bells. And I'm saying I heard that this morning with my boys. I listen every. Every morning. Peter.

[Peter]

Yes.

[Caller]

I need you to get me Jay Z tickets, bro. Come on. Call your boy E, bro. Yo, Earl, I went on the Portal this morning. I couldn't get no tickets.

[Peter]

I would.

[Caller]

I would love you gonna be there.

[Peter]

I know you're gonna be right.

[Don Hahn]

I know you go out peel off, too. You got them in your pocket.

[Peter]

I got a rack. Earl. I appreciate you, my guy. I like that you respect me and think I could have the hookup on this. I don't. However, I wonder if there's a way. I wonder if there's a way that we can find to get some tickets for the. For the show. You know, someone at the station was relatively powerful here. Yeah. Has some connects to the Yankees.

[Don Hahn]

Who is that? Give me a minute.

[Peter]

Anthony. Just had such a good joke in my ear that I can't say on the air because it mocks things about us.

[Don Hahn]

But Say it to me.

[Peter]

Well, I'll sum it up like this to make fun of the station, Alan. Why give away Jay Z tickets when we can give away just random country concert tickets, Just George straight at the. At the Philly blah blah amphitheater. Why, why, why would us, a sports station in New York City, give away Jay Z at Yankee Stadium when you

[Don Hahn]

know, we could try to make that work.

[Peter]

The chicks have a reunion concert.

[Don Hahn]

But you know why they call them bells, right?

[Peter]

No.

[Don Hahn]

Tell me back to that.

[Peter]

No, remind me about the bells.

[Don Hahn]

Because he said he's got like stones as big as church bells. That's what said. So he calls them bells.

[Peter]

That is because he's doing this whole

[Don Hahn]

thing where he's calling them bells in the post game. It's like bells. What is he talking about? Bells.

[Peter]

That is quite the nickname and that's the example.

[Don Hahn]

The kid in that moment hadn't made a shot. And it's basically like, give me the ball, call my number. And he's like, dude, yeah, you're over four.

[Peter]

Don't worry about it.

[Don Hahn]

No, I got it.

[Peter]

That's stones.

[Don Hahn]

So you got to have this time of year.

[Peter]

I know, I know. This may not go well,

[Caller]

Peter. Allen, before I get to the tournament, the NBA season is over. You have your 10 teams in the east and your 10 in the west, including the playing. They're locked in. Allen.

[Peter]

Yes.

[Caller]

So you have 10 teams out as of today. 10. Five in each conference. This is what Adam Silverdat says. We're having the tournament. Whoever plays the best record for the 10 teams that are not in from here on from starting Monday for three weeks, that's who will get the number one pick. And we go like that. There's nothing to play for in the NBA right now. All the teams that are in are in. Nobody that.

[Peter]

Hold on, Richard, hold on. I want to ask Alan about that. He did. Just real quick. Hang tight, Richard. I'll come back to you one more

[Don Hahn]

time if you could.

[Peter]

The 10 teams that have been. Because basically we have the top 10 in both conferences, right?

[Caller]

Correct. So then, Peter.

[Peter]

Right. So the bottom 10 in the league are out.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Have nothing to play for. And realistically the top 20 have nothing to play for. They're just playing for C. So this is. This would be better than your in season tournament.

[Don Hahn]

You are playing for something, trying to get the best.

[Caller]

We're going to semantics now.

[Peter]

What Richard's suggesting. Hold on, Richard, I'll come back. What Richard's suggesting is those bottom 10 teams playing in a tournament and the team that wins the tournament gets the number one pick in the draft, making the bad teams play hard to try to get the draft again. I don't hate it.

[Don Hahn]

Here's why I hate it.

[Peter]

Oh, he does hate it.

[Don Hahn]

Here's why I hate it. I'm not playing for my replacement. What player gives a rip about a high draft pick? Oh, I'm playing this tournament, so you get a number one pick. So then you can trade me or get rid of me.

[Peter]

It's a great point.

[Don Hahn]

I ain't doing that.

[Peter]

All right, great call.

[Don Hahn]

Like again, Alan, the team that you're

[Caller]

playing may not be playing either because they're locked in already. So you're going to have two teams that don't care. That's great. That's great data. But anyway. All right, that's my suggestion.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, I get. Other people have suggested. I. I found a better one on the Internet that I've been wanting to talk about for a couple of days.

[Peter]

Maybe today's the day we finally get.

[Don Hahn]

Today could be the day we do it.

[Peter]

Richard, what's your. What's your tournament?

[Caller]

All right. NCAA tournament. This is. And, fellas, you rem. Weeks ago, before the UConn St. John's first game, I said, you guys got to do the show at the garden. St. John's may be into something big. You didn't like my idea, but I told you this may be something, all right. This kid, Darling, may be the first guy. And by the way, he reminded me of Danny Ainge going through the whole Notre dame defense in 1978 or 79 in the NCAA tournament when Brigham Young was an unknown team and he won that tournament game at Danny Ainge. I'll never forget that. Anyway, Darling, what he did, it's got to be the first time in the history of either pro or college where a guy scores the only basket of the game on a shot, not with his right hand, with his offhand and his only basket, taking the ball to the hole. That's unbelievable. When you think of the confluences of all these things added together. I was shocked he didn't pull up for the three. In this day and age, all these kids pull up for the three. He didn't do that. That was unbelievable. As far as the tournament goes, you have 16 teams. Now, if you count the number what they are seated, you have a number of 60. That's got to be the lowest. You have 12 out of the 16 top fours. 12 out of the 16 are in it. You have 111 and 19 and hardly. Would you say they're Cinderella's Texas and Iowa. You have a six and then you have a five, which is the St. John's so this has got to be the least chalk NCAA tournament that we've had in the 40.

[Peter]

No, no. The most shock.

[Caller]

Most shock rather.

[Peter]

No. Thank you, Richard. It's a good call. It is true. It's a very. The field that's left in the sweet 16, which is what's interesting about how I'm still so bad in the tournament because all I basically did was pick favorites and yet somehow I've managed to be terrible and it's basically all favorites. But guess what? In the end we still got to have a handful of really fun games and we'll have great games next week because it's such quality programs that are still left.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. And you get more of the brand name certainly as well, which does make

[Peter]

for a better second weekend if we're being honest. Because you know, it's really fun to see the high points but then all of a sudden very often you end up they remember who they are and all of a sudden you're like, this isn't fun.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. I mean there are those years that a George Mason gets to the final Four, you know, Butler gets to the final. That stuff does happen. But you really do want to have the most talented teams going head to head because that's the best basketball and

[Peter]

that's, that's what we're, what we're looking at here. This college basketball tournament moment is brought

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What a game.

[Peter]

So the Rangers host the senators but

[Don Hahn]

at 7:30 7:30 today. Yeah, thanks guys. It's Canadian Prime. You could blame them. Yeah, Senators went early yesterday trying to get their truck set up. This is a big game for them and Mika. 1000th game tonight so there's a ceremony. So that puck drop will be about oh 9pm Eastern time. And all Islander fans will be rooting for the Rangers tonight because we want to keep the Senators in the rear view.

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[Don Hahn]

It's just.

[Peter]

I can't even, like, wrap my head around it.

[Don Hahn]

No, it's really impossible.

[Peter]

The amount of different things that they're keeping track of in real time. Like, I just don't.

[Don Hahn]

All you keep thinking to yourself is, the guys in the. In the truck, they couldn't hear him say to stop. Like he was telling them, first he cleared him and then he says, no, no, no.

[Peter]

And he tried to stop them multiple times, three times.

[Don Hahn]

And something. Did they change channel. Whatever it was, something happened. They didn't hear them. And it's just. What are the odds of the confluence of two vehicles, one an airplane, one a fire truck, meeting at the exact spot at the exact same time? What are the odds of that? I know, it's unreal. And then.

[Peter]

And of course, two pilots tragically lost their lives.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. And again. Yes. And this. The. The air traffic controller. But he's got to live.

[Peter]

He's got to live with that now. And he said at the end of the thing, he's like, my bad. And the other guys are like, no, it's not your bad. You did the best you could. I mean, what are you supposed to do? It's awful. Just a really awful, awful thing. And then I. And then I heard. And then Anthony said that there was smoke over at Newark. Did that get cleared up?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, at some point today, two of the three major airports were closed, which is unbelievable.

[Peter]

Yeah. And that's not even getting into all the other troubles that are at airports right now.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

So it's. Today was a really rough morning. Obviously, we're spent sending our love and thoughts out to anyone who is affected by that tragedy. Just really, really sad. Four o', clock. We're going to have a big football hour.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter]

There's a lot of football to get to today.

[Don Hahn]

Big jets conversation coming up.

[Peter]

We got jets talk. We got Cam Scatterboo talk over the weekend.

[Don Hahn]

Maybe too much talk.

[Peter]

Maybe we try a little less talk. Did you get your eyes on the Facocta Flag football game?

[Don Hahn]

There's a lot. For something that felt like a nothing, a lot came out of it.

[Peter]

Really? You feel that way?

[Don Hahn]

Yes, a lot came out of that.

[Peter]

I'll tell you what. There wasn't a lot of what? Fans in attendance. Yeah, well, I guess that's not the point of.

[Don Hahn]

It wasn't supposed to be there.

[Peter]

Right. No one thought it was happening there.

[Don Hahn]

And it was very. It's such a random thing to Happen in March.

[Peter]

Can I say something, though?

[Don Hahn]

You just did.

[Peter]

The football players were like, kind of playing football.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

Like now I felt a little better about Jaden, who was just standing there and kind of having the ball pitched to him and chucking it.

[Don Hahn]

Was it A.J. brown? Who was it?

[Peter]

A.J.

[Don Hahn]

brown? Devontae Smith was. Devontae Smith. He was in a. He caught. He caught a pass and his, like, when he landed his ankle looked like it. It had a chance to snap right off. It was. Even that one with Joe Burrow was like scrambling and try to get extra yards, and he was like. He was fighting it. Like, you get injured here, your NFL team, like Bengals are not going to be pissed. But you know what, though? Your competitive juices really start to flow,

[Peter]

especially when you're getting.

[Don Hahn]

When you're getting your ass kicked by these.

[Peter]

Yeah. You're getting boat raised by flag football players.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

And you know, you know, another one I wouldn't have been thrilled about. Saquon. Oh, yeah, Like, Saquon was. Saquon was doing it all. Like, a lot of running, a lot

[Don Hahn]

of jumping, putting on a show.

[Peter]

Let's. Let's grab a couple calls before we have a big 4 o' clock football hour. We go to Javier in Queens. What's up, Javi?

[Caller]

What's going on? What's going on, boy? Thanks for taking the call. You know, I'm really excited about the St. John's talk. I'm Javi from Queens. Allen. I got blood in the ground. I'm not a St. John's alumni, but I went to St. John's baseball camp.

[Peter]

12 years old.

[Don Hahn]

All right, so you very excited. You got blood in the ground. You've been on campus.

[Caller]

Yeah, I grew up right by there, and I went to River Crest for the game yesterday. Nice environment. I feel good about the game against Duke. They, like, just with what the last caller said, you know, you can't. You can't put up bricks like that and expect to beat Duke. But their defense, defensively, they're there. I think offensively they need to step up and they have a really good chance of winning.

[Don Hahn]

Duke's already shown you in this tournament that, you know, I mean, you can. You can get him in a grinder, you know.

[Caller]

Yeah. They're vulnerable. And then what? Two. Two quick things. One, putting Griffin against himself is like. Like nasty work. Like, I. I can't believe you would have me, you know, choose my. My favorite son, you know, Like, I

[Don Hahn]

thought it was brilliant work by the committee. I thought the committee did a great job. With that matchup, you got to have early, compelling matchups, right? That's one of them.

[Caller]

I don't know what to do. But Alan, come Thursday morning, Knicks are probably going to be the second seed. Let's see if they can hold on to it. I'm going to put it out there. But come Thursday morning, Knicks are going to have that second seed over the Celtics. Celtics are going to lose okc. Knicks are going to take care of business against Pelicans.

[Don Hahn]

Something to watch here.

[Peter]

I'm in the building. I'm in the building for the big Pell game like you dream about.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, look at you. That's right, Zion. Right? But that is like we were going to talk about this. We'll set it up. But there is a scenario where that by Thursday, the Knicks could actually be in the second seed. They got to take care of business. But it's a real thing right now.

[Peter]

And that stat you threw at us last night in the group chat is worth breaking down.

[Don Hahn]

You like that, right?

[Peter]

It did surprise me, but it.

[Don Hahn]

I like it and I don't like it, but it also shows you just. It's amazing how one small pocket of a season can change your perspective. Alan.

[Peter]

Alan has a very compelling Knick stat that we'll. We'll get to.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter]

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