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Todd, I gotta divorce my wife and.
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Have my kids bleed out.
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No, because the Giant game's on. Otherwise, I'm not a real fan.
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What kind of fan are you?
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Not a good one.
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And Rosenberg, the Peter haters who call stupid. The Peter fans who call very bright. This isn't North Dakota.
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This is New York.
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This is Don, Han and Rosenberg.
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The best threesome I've ever heard on.
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ESPN New York and streaming live on YouTube.
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3 o' clock in the picture.
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Don Hunter, Rosenberg, Trace. Nip him.
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Oh.
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Oh, no. I. We all woke up just speaking Spanish now because everyone was so freaked out about Bad Bunny. I assume we moved to all Espanol come Monday.
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Well, Lady Gaga tried, and that. That didn't work. So we're all back.
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Am I wrong to like her?
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Wrong.
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Like Lady Gaga, Incredibly talented. I don't think she was trying to be anything but Lady Gaga.
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Did she dance?
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A little bit of.
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Wait, she didn't try to sing in Spanish, did she?
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A little bit.
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I think she would just sing whatever song she was.
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I thought she did the. Her and Bruno Mars, their song.
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Yeah, she did.
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So people are coming for in some way. I don't know.
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Everybody's coming for everybody.
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Listen, I'm not reacting to what anybody said. I'm. I'm just. I was watching, and that was. I was just kind of laughing, like, all right, all right, all right.
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I liked. I like Gaga being a part of it.
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The whole thing was fine. If you're upset about it, you wanted to be. If you loved it, if you thought it was an unbelievable performance, you're also over the top.
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It was fine. Let's be honest, everybody, because we have a very, very strong love affair with football in this country, and we're all caught up in it and how much we love and adore today.
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I'm not. I'm inside out today. I'll take that right to the point where college football, we feel like we're.
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Violating some sort of trust was a better game for sure.
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Like, we can't go after the love of our life.
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No.
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Like, you can't tell your wife. You know what? Maybe. Maybe you need to go a dress size bigger. You're not fitting in that dress anymore, honey.
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I love you.
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You know what? The makeup, you know, you're not 25 anymore, honey.
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Yeah. Wow.
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All right. If you have a pure relationship with somebody, you might be able to go there and be honest. You said the word in describing the halftime show that to me, I could describe the entire 2025 football season. It Was fine.
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It was tight for halftime.
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The entire season from kickoff to when that game clocked zero. It was okay. It was an okay season. It wasn't great. There's nothing really great about it. There were no storylines. There were no superstar performances really, to speak of that we're used to. And it was a football game.
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The game sucked.
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Very good at all against two teams that aren't really very good in a season that's not very good.
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Are you telling me.
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No, don't go there.
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He deserves time. He deserves his time.
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Go ahead.
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He does. No. Allen at some point deserves to celebrate. I openly give it to you. But before that, I just wanted. I was starting the show just to make fun of everybody who freaked out. And ultimately, whether you loved it, whether you thought it was fine, you couldn't come away from halftime thinking any more than cool. It was halftime cool? No, but if you're someone. If you're someone of Latin descent or a child of immigrants, maybe it hit you on a deeper level.
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But.
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But from a music. I'm a fan of music standpoint, there was nothing to be offended about. It was a. It was a. We're all okay folks.
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There was nothing to re. Overreact to.
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Unless you hate. Unless you're. Unless you're excited, unless the idea of, you know, unity and being positive, because that's certainly what he did.
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But again, if that offends, you know.
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If unity offends you, then I understand. If it wasn't the show for you.
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It'S not about that. Again, like I said, if you. If you had a problem, you wanted to have a problem, right?
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You went into it with a problem.
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But if you're, like, gushing about it, dial it down.
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No, but that's not fair because that's not your kind of music. That's. It's not your genre to be excited.
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It doesn't have to be.
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No, it does.
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It was same with Kendrick.
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Fine, but same with Kendrick. If someone said last year with Kendrick, it was fine, but they didn't know what he was trying to do or dig in, you might just think it's fine.
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Like you said, if it hit you personally because of your background or who.
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You are, you're interested in the genre.
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But I'm talking about those that are just wanting to just shove it in your face, relax.
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The people that you're. Blow your mind on either side of the aisle. The people that want to hate it, the people that want to love it.
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Right.
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What you're describing to me is the guy or Gal that sat there and wrote the article or wrote the post before.
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Yeah.
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And then when it was over, they hit send.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like it didn't matter. They were gonna have that opinion before it even happened.
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That's what I mean.
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That's the agenda driven stuff. Otherwise it was fine.
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Yeah.
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Nothing wrong with it. I didn't understand a word of it. But you know what? I was it. I was at a party. There were some people that were fans, some people that never heard the music before, and I was tapping my toe. There was. It was.
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Yeah, yeah, it was.
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It was the way you've been at other halftimes.
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Yeah, it was. Yes, it was good.
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That's what I mean.
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Good.
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It was a good halftime show.
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That's it.
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End of story.
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The reason I was going to jump Allen, because I. The conversation is going to be the parody. And you'd rather have we complained about Kansas City keep going to the super bowl and we complained about that. And this is what happens when you complain about it. Kansas City wasn't good last year. Now they had name value because everybody knows Patrick Mahomes and everybody knows Travis Kelsey. So there were some name value to the team. Team wasn't very good and they got destroyed in the game. Yeah, I don't mind seeing different teams like the parody. I, I just, I just want to see it be good. I want to see two teams that are really good. These were the two best teams of their respective conferences and the Seattle Seahawks are the best team of 2025. That's as far as it'll go. They're not generational. There wasn't any generational talents yet. Maybe Drake May becomes a superstar. Maybe this will be a second life for Sam Darnold and he'll become, you know, the next great quarterback. But there wasn't a lot of there there.
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Okay. Yep.
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So you could complain. All this is what happens when the Chiefs aren't. If the Chiefs were in it, it's not about they'd be bad, but at least there'd be some name value to it.
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Oh, and on the flip side, if. And on the flip side, if the Bills weren't injury ravaged and the Bills played in this game, maybe we're talking about how awesome it was that we got to see the Buffalo Bills win the super bowl and Josh Allen become mvp because Josh, he was right there for us.
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Because Josh Allen is a brand and a star. It's. You're leaning forward. Can he do it? You're a little more into it. There's that. I'm telling you, the two of the four major sports leagues get it right and the other two right now are going through something. Well, one is the NFL, the other is the NBA. The NBA Finals went to seven. Game seven. Right. That series had some feel to it, but you know what happened? It was all right.
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Well, because we're in a transitional period in football and basketball.
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You got the Dodgers, you got the Panthers. In the NHL, you've got like, this is elite. You want, like I. It's not about the Chiefs. Don't. What I always warn about is when parody comes around and you get a Super bowl like this, that you need people who love football to be like, that was one of the best defensive games. Who the hell wants to see a.
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Great defensive unless it's, you know, Lawrence Taylor sacking set, you know, something special.
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You know what I mean though, when I say like, like that's what that was. It was. It was such a. Not a great game. And we're going to kill Drake May when his offensive line couldn't stop a nose.
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There's too many kids on the team. That's why we said going in that this was going to be really difficult for.
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This is what happens. You don't have either a brand name or a epic elite type team that you feel like this is a generational type team and they're fun to watch or a player who, like Josh Allen, a great example, can he finally get over the top. It just brings you lean forward. It just that first possession of the game, I'm like, oh, God. Like, you just knew right there. Like, oh, yeah. But this is not going to be good.
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Those two sports are in a transitional period. All right, because you know, Mahomes is getting older, Brady's gone. You know, so the. And then we had a year in which, well, yes, Stafford, Jackson wasn't good.
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But the Rams could be good.
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Matthew Stafford's going to go to the hall of Fame. But I'm not talking about Matthew. Matthew Stafford doesn't pop the way Allen, Mahomes and Jackson do into a certain extent. Burrow right. Matthew Stafford, to me, Stafford, he does it.
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Not as much. But the Rams are a team, though.
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Yeah.
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Let me just say this. When you. I pulled up the bracket to look right. When you pull up the actual playoff bracket. And look, the AFC was tough sledding from the beginning. You knew from the very. You look at everyone available in the AFC and you go, the only team I'd like to see, if you don't have a dog in the fight is Buffalo, that is the only team that they had there. And every other team. Pittsburgh, Houston, Denver, Jacksonville, Patriots, Chargers. I'm good.
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Look at your top two seeds, too.
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It's. And maybe had the. Maybe had the Chargers been healthy, like fully healthy, I'd feel a little different. But they weren't. I'm good.
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But they're top two seed. That's the problem in the afc.
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Broncos and Patriots good. You look at the. At the nfc, that's where we really got screwed. Because God bless the Seahawks. They played a great season and they deserved everything they got. But that side of the bracket had the Rams love them or hate them, the Eagles love them or hate them, the Niners, the Bears, who are an interesting team, the packers, all of these interesting teams were in the nfc and Seattle got out. It was. This was one of the worst combinations of an interest standpoint that existed when the tournament started.
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And where we ended up getting screwed is, is Bo Nix didn't get hurt a week before, right. During practice, and the Bills faced a backup quarterback. Then the Bills would have made it, probably beat the Patriots, and we'd be talking about Josh Allen finally winning the ring. And it would have been a lot sexier and it would have been a lot more fun. We all enjoyed what Sam went through, but Sam is kind of vanilla, right? Even in. Even in celebrating, even listen to him after the game when they win the Super Bowl. What does it feel like to win a Super Bowl? It's special.
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I shared a great moment with my parents and my fiance Katie, after the game, and I think that's what kind of got me a little bit. Me and my dad don't really cry very often. And, you know, I told my dad I was, you know, and my mom, I'm here because of their belief in me. They believed in me throughout my entire career. And I think that's why I was able to believe in myself at nauseam. Some people called me, called me crazy throughout my career for believing in myself so much and having so much confidence. But, you know, it was because of my parents, because of the way that they believed in me throughout my entire career. And it allowed me to go out there and play free and have a ton of confidence.
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Yeah, it's a nice story, but 200 yards and one touchdown, it wasn't.
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But he did what he did what he needed to do.
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He did what he needed to do, manage his way.
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Thank you.
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A champ. We knew we were so happy for.
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We were going to run the ball. We're going to dominate on the Ground. I don't have to put up big numbers. I don't need to. I just need to win the game. And I love that about him, by the way, though, that what you just played while. Yes, it sounded very monotone, very matter of fact, it sounded like he was doing a podcast interview on a. You know, on a Wednesday. Right. But when you hear what he says, that got me.
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What, the parent thing. Yeah, I liked.
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It was great.
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That gets you. Right? Because it just shows you he's been through so much since he got into the league. Right.
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No, it's great story.
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Never a acted like he was a victim or turned it into where, like, chip on my shoulder and all that crap. Like, he just kept going and working at it and figuring it out. And they love him there. They loved him in Minnesota. Everywhere he's been, every.
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What is it?
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What do we say? He was here for five seconds with the Jets.
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Right.
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What do we all say about him?
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Loved him. So great attitude.
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It's. And the first thing he said was, because of my parents.
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No, it's. It's very nice.
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Very nice. So as a dad who has kids who play sport like that, that hit me.
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No, that was great.
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I watched the clip and I liked it, too. But, Don, I also hear what your point is in terms of an overall sex standpoint. We didn't even get even from the Sam standpoint. Sam didn't even play well enough for you to really. Like, in a year, guys, there could be a world where Sam needs to find a job again. I know that sounds crazy, but, like, he's still in the biggest moment where we were all pulling for him to show everybody what time it was. He got a Super bowl ring, and that's all that matters. He's rich for life. He's a Super bowl champion. Write it down. Take a picture. He's the man. But we can't say, like, he absolutely solidified his quarterbacking legacy last night. We didn't even get that.
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No, I thought he did that in.
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The NFC Championship game.
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That's a. He was great in the championship game. But do you think the rest of the world sees it that way? That when you get to that game where everyone's watching and both quarterbacks poop the bed, for lack of a better word, I don't know that anyone is going to think of Sam.
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Sam didn't play.
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He didn't poop the bed. But there was never. Did he have a good play?
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I thought he did a pretty good job with his legs.
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Yeah, he had a Good play and maybe two.
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Listen, both teams have really good defenses. There wasn't a lot of points to be had. They're settling for field goals. And unfortunately for New England, they couldn't take advantage of all the field goals Seattle was kicking because they just couldn't get a score until the game was already decided.
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But it stunk. That's the point. It stunk.
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It was just one of those seasons and that's okay. You could still love football, but it was just one of those seasons and it kind of ended the way this season should have ended. Now, maybe we're bitter met Jet and Giant fans because the seasons weren't very good.
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But, you know, we, we.
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We focus so much on it now. We'll see. Is this the beginning of something for Sam Darnold? Is this the beginning of something for Drake May? Now, Drake May almost won the MVP, but he was terrible in all three.
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Playoff games, sacked 21 times, which is. You could try to act like it's about him and he needs to be better.
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And he's.
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His shoulder was hurt. He wasn't 100%. But that offensive.
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The left side was.
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They were too young. They were ready. That's why Seattle was the favorite, because New England got here a year too early.
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Probably.
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This was probably supposed to be Buffalo's chance. Didn't happen. We don't want to take anything away from New England now. Did they learn from it? Are they going to come back stronger or is this going to be a steady rotation of different teams? How do you feel until all of a sudden we start getting great players again?
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How do you feel? What do you think?
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Well, I said before the super bowl started, I said, the team that I think has the brighter future is New England. Because I look at Seattle and I say, is Sam truly a great quarterback or just having a good year and that division so tough? San Francisco is going to be back, clearly. The Rams could be back. Stafford's going to play another year. And then you look at New England, they've got Buffalo to deal with, who just changed their coach. You're getting nothing out of the jets and Dolphins right away. They should be able to win their division again, right? But you know what? You know, Burrow is going to be back. Lamar Jackson's going to be back here, and maybe new coach can liven up things a little bit. We'll see. You know, what happens with Stroud and what's the health of Indianapolis and is the Los Angeles Chargers ready to take that next step? Is it.
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If I had to Bet.
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Guys, right now, I think there's two different teams in the super bowl next year. I give New England the brighter future because they're so young and they're so well coached. But right now, if I had to bet, I'd say there's two different teams in the super bowl next year.
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Do you think the league script. They always talk about how the league is scripted. Right now, the announcement for 61. You saw that whole thing, the handoff, right. And they did the thing on top of Sofi. Did you notice the jacket that was worn, Peter? Very, very distinct colors.
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Oh, there's some people are saying that we're getting a hint or something. No.
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Looked very commanders.
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No.
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Where was this?
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It was the promo, the handoff thing. The promo for the new. For next year.
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For next year's Super Bowl.
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I don't know who it was. It was fake. Standing on top of Sofi and then delivering the hole. And then the balloons come up and it's.
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Anything else or just commanders jacket on.
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Looked very commanders.
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So you're saying the script may be written and next year's our year.
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Remember the. Remember the photo that had Sam Donal right in the front? Right in front of the Lombardi?
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Listen, these days, guys, not only am I apt to believe it, I'll take it if that's true. Listen, that's why I like wrestling. I like a good story.
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Right?
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Tell me a good story with the Commanders winning the Super Bowl. I'll tell you what. It would certainly engage more of the casuals. This not. And obviously we saw the numbers. It's never about the numbers. That's why I was laughing at Dove Kleinman when he posted. Millions of people are going to leave at halftime. No one ever leaves. Everyone's watching the game.
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Right.
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The game stunk. It's still setting records. So it's not about that.
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You can walk away. The TV stays on.
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TV stay on.
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And it doesn't matter who's sitting in front of it. No. No one's changing the channel.
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And you just don't. Now, I will say this. I would not be surprised if there was a significant drop off post halftime yesterday.
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Oh, after the confetti, after the trophies handed.
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No, no, no, no. Oh, you mean, like literally into the third quarter? You've now made it through the halftime and whether you were a Bad Bunny fan, intrigued, whatever it was, you know, Respectfully, ladies who are wives out there, some of us, like in my house, who don't care but want to watch halftime.
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Yeah.
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My wife didn't even make it out for the second half. Like the game didn't do anything to bring in that casual. She literally went in the other room and watched something else. It was such a dud.
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It was.
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And then the second they gave you a moment where you could start selling and you could hear Tirico, I mean, he was.
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He was.
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He was sleeping on his back for a minute, thinking it gets to 19 to 7 with the ball.
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Yeah.
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Move the ball a little bit now, Pat. Score a touchdown here it's 1914.
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Right.
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10 minutes left instead. And Drake just, I mean, takes down his pants, turns around and lays it all out. But I would be curious to see if some of the numbers went down. All of that being said, of course, people watch, the numbers are always huge. But, man, it would just be cool if next year, whether it's. I love seeing different teams. We just happened to get two teams that are not that interesting. If you don't have a dog in the fight, they're just not.
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Yeah. And that just. And that's sometimes the luck of the draw. Right? That happens. And baseball had Yankees, Dodgers, and that was epic.
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Yeah.
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You know, and the year before that it was Diamondbacks, Rangers. And the Rangers is like, that's going to happen. You know, now I think what saved hockey with the Panthers and then the. And the Oilers, because you had Connor McDavid, you had. You had a Kachuk brother.
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Did last year, though, do worse.
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Worse. Because it didn't go to seven and it wasn't as.
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Yeah, it doesn't have the same draw, but that.
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The first one, the first one, there were just so many storylines. Everybody was to your point. All right, at the half, it's nine nothing. Patriots get the ball three and out. So right there, people are like, yeah. And then the seahawks make it 12 nothing. It's like, dude, they can't even score. Are they going to score twice? Two touchdowns. Once it got to 19 nothing. I gotta think a lot of people checked out.
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Yeah. That would have been the moment where then even when they scored against 19 7, you were already done. To be totally honest, the real life time of intrigue. Meaning from 197 to the turnover, you're talking about real life. Like 7 minutes 6, 7 minutes past interception, game over, score again. Then you try to even get your hopes up somehow still. And then then Drake puts it on the ground. It was not. It was not a great day for Drake, man. I mean, listen, Seattle's defense was absolutely unreal.
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Will Henderson either.
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No, it wasn't. He's got to run Over So their line looks bad. But guys, we know how things ultimately are. These opportunities don't always come along. In fact, it's most likely in the highest likelihood is Sam Darnold and Drake May will never sniff one again. That's the highest likelihood. Okay, now I understand the Patriots in recent vintage is they're always there, but assuming they are a normal team and this wasn't because they are the Patriots, this happened because it was the right circumstance. He may never get back. And yes, it was the line. But Don, he was not good.
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This even though there are. There is some carryover and certainly carry over with the owner. I looked at this Patriot team, it.
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Felt like the 90s patriots in relation.
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To the Belichick Brady Patriots. Like almost comparing the 85 Patriots to the. To Brady and Bella. It just happened to be the New England Patriots. I don't think it had anything to do with the history or the way the team is run. Listen, give Robert Kraft credit. He. He hired Rabel and there are some similarities, but it just. Hey, I'm not going to say they got lucky, but they did catch some breaks, right?
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Oh, easily, yes.
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And they took advantage of the good on them and hopefully they learned something from it. The Seahawks were the better team. That's why I picked them. I think that's why most. That's why they were a four and a half point favorite.
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I did not like the again, I didn't think the Patriots would win. I tried to use my reaper powers for good by saying it in our video. But, you know, in all honesty, though we knew Seattle was a better team. I just didn't see it being that overwhelming for New England defensively. Like, offensively.
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Yeah, it wasn't even because of turnovers.
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You talk about, you know, again, bta, I mean, that. That whole left side of that line just collapsed every single step. That kid had. No, I know. We want to get on him. He had his worst quarterback rating. I get all the stuff. I get it. The turnovers as well. Man, he was. You know, it's funny, in a weird way, Drake May started seeing ghosts. Oh, he didn't know what the hell was it. Wait, who's coming? He doesn't know what direction anybody's coming from on the blitzes. Like, honestly, as much as we like to have fun with this whole Sam seeing ghosts thing, it did seem like Drake May was living that Sam Darnold experience.
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But he's in it. But he's with the second youngest quarterback in the history of the Super Bowl. You know, there's a very good chance he could be back. I just think that right now the league is in a transition where we're starting to see the great quarterbacks get older and we're waiting for the new quarterbacks to jump up. Same thing with the NBA, you know, LeBron and Curry, those guys are getting older. We're waiting for the new guys to jump up and we're just kind of in that transitional period.
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They're not contending anymore. Well, this is also a great example, number one, of how to building a team when they traded Russell Wilson, what they turned those picks into and how they're able to build Seattle, rebuild Seattle. Right. But it's also a great example of when you, when you have a year where the brand names and the brand quarterbacks and all that stuff aren't there, you got to strike. You might not have an all time team, but this is the type of year where you go, but we can, we can get one. And a team like Seattle was able to do that. Like this was the, like that's why I keep going back to Buffalo. It's why they had to make a change, why McDermott had to go. If there was a year, this was the year.
B
Yeah, this was the year.
C
And they didn't do it.
B
They didn't do it.
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They didn't think. It's a prime example of that. Sometimes in any league there's just that year where there's no favorite, there's no, there's no killer, there's no main team, there's no evil empire. And that's the you, you got to try to steal one if you're not an elite team. And Seattle did that so good on them.
B
Yep. Somebody had to do it and they did it.
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I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Oh, sure, sure.
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Right. You had fun doing that, right, Alan?
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Fun?
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Really?
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No, I wouldn't call it fun because I like Vrabel and I like Drake May. So it wasn't like I was. You know what?
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I had fun.
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I had fun as I called the game yesterday at TD Garden for ESPN Radio, myself and Mark Kester. It was a great experience being there and calling that on a national level. And I kept it down the middle. But in the fourth quarter as they're all walking out of the building, like, that's what I have fun with is seeing miserable people from Boston. Right? Because you've had enough, right? You've won your World Series. You won the cups. You won. Look, endless Super Bowls. You got the one NBA like enough, right? So that's the kind of. Like that was fun because there was a lot of smack talk in the morning going into that about what a day this is going to be, what a glorious day. I enjoy the glorious.
A
Well, then that's.
C
But that picture that floated around that espn, I guess made a meme of. Of Sam Darnold and a Jets uniform down on the field and then Sam and his Seahawks holding the trophy and helping himself up.
A
Yeah, that kind of hit I got. I gotta say something. This isn't going to come as surprising news. This guy is the cheesiest cheese. I'm a cheeseball. Allen is. I mean, he is Hallmark movie.
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Oh yeah.
A
I mean, you give him like poster, poster in his house of the footprints on the beach. I mean, every.
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Footprints to each other. Footprint.
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I'm telling you everything. That can hit an emotional thing. He loves it.
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I was like.
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I mean, I was cute. The little image, I was just. I just reminisced on our times with Sam and thought about how happy I was that he got to have it. He's a kid.
C
Shed a tear. But it was like.
B
You thought about it, though, you know, Jalen's got no interest. And Marco, because he's an eight year old boy. And we went to a party where he had classmates. So they were all running around, running around playing video games. I'm trying to get him. I said, do you realize you were. You met the quarterback of the Seattle Seahawks? What do you mean? He was at the holiday party that we had at Buffalo Wild wings back in 2019, and Sam was there. I didn't get a picture with the two of them together, but. So that's something you were really. It's. It's kind of cool. And he thought it was cool for a second. And then his friend Bodhi said, hey, check this out. They had to go outside. They had to go outside. It was like minus four. Yeah, they had to go outside.
C
What'd they do?
B
They were just running around, throw the.
C
Football around or just chasing the girls.
A
Went out.
B
They roll out there. And then 15 minutes later they come in. They think they have frostbite. I can't feel my face. I'm like shocking bright red.
C
I love it.
B
They just. I just. You know what? That focused on that. We talked about it the other day. We would have went out there without a jacket.
C
Absolutely.
B
We would have the skull cap on the.
C
The gloves, but no jacket.
B
Roll up the sleeves, no jacket. Because that first down is more important than anything in the world. In somebody's backyard on Super Bowl Sunday, back in 1978 or whatever it was, we had to get that first down. But just an interesting night. Fine. Is the way I would describe the 2025 season. Hopefully things better in 2026-180091-93776. Let's go to Monty and Wayne. You're on ESPN. What's up, Monte? Monte in Wayne, he wanted to defend the Patriots, but he's not.
A
I mean, there's nothing to defend their.
B
It is what it is.
A
They are who they are. They are who we thought they were.
C
Mm, that's a good way to put it.
A
That's who they were. There's nothing to defend. They're a good team. What, are they gonna call us and tell us they're an all Time. Super bowl team. No, they're not.
C
No.
A
But they won this year.
C
Left side of their line was missing.
B
But they caught some breaks and they took advantage of.
C
Yeah, I hate it.
B
With the exception of having to face Bo Nix, the Bills had a similar situation. Right. They trying to take advantage. No Baltimore, no Cincinnati. I know that. But they had to face Bo Nick.
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But they couldn't overcome.
B
Who would you rather have to face? The bill.
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Should have a Bill. Should have won.
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Anyway, you're red hot today.
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Should be.
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If anybody, any fan, no question. Should have any emotion.
B
I'm just saying you're red hot if you're a Bill. The path was the same for both teams. The difference was Bo Nix.
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Yes.
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And if you want to be a Super bowl champion, you shouldn't let Bo Nicks get in your way.
A
Correct. Like, honestly, now you're talking like you.
C
Got to as a Bills fan. You got to be watching that game, going, this.
B
We couldn't do this. And I'm sure I was at a party. Evan was throwing the party, and he's a Bronco fan. He's from Denver. I mean, I felt for the guy because he's probably thinking, we should be there.
C
Yeah. Yeah. If our quarterback didn't break his foot and if it.
B
You know, there's no blizzard in the second half of the game. You know, they probably go there, and I think they would just kick field.
C
Goal and go up 10, nothing.
B
Exactly. But I think they get beat.
C
I think the Seahawks here, that defense.
B
By Seattle, nfc, was the better conference.
C
Nasty.
B
Seattle was the better team.
C
By the way, shout out Mike McDonald. I mean, that guy can coach. He has that locker room. You can see it. He's got a culture.
B
He did something that I wish I could do. He actually stopped.
A
I saw it.
B
To smell the roses. Like, did you see him when the game ended and the confetti's going down? He stopped and watched and took it all in. It was awesome. And I think that's a talent, because when you have something like that happen, the instinct is right away. Let's get. Let's get to the press conference. Let's talk to the team. Let's get ready for next year. It's always about what's next. I remember Brian Billick saying after they won the super bowl and the Ravens beat the Giants, he went to take a shower before the party, and he had a panic attack in the shower because he was thinking, what do I do next? We got to win another one. If we don't win another one, then the One I just won isn't going to seem like, you know, that.
C
Wow.
B
But he. At least for just a few seconds.
A
I stopped and looked at the fireworks and just stared like.
B
But I think what he was doing is just take this in like a mental Polaroid. I may never be here again.
F
Right.
B
And I think we all need to do that sometimes. It's like as busy as life is, just instead of thinking what's next? Or how I could take advantage of this or how I can monetize this. That's all gonna come. But I don't know how long it was. I don't know if anybody timed. It's probably between 10 and 15 seconds. But it felt longer where he was just. He was smelling the roses.
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He was.
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This is awesome.
A
It was a great thing.
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Pure bliss for him.
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That's great.
B
Just to get to the mountaintop, Peter.
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And actually look around. Take the moment. Yeah. No, no. No one ever does that ever.
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Because that's how life is. You're number one. Be number one again. Win a Super Bowl. How many more are you supposed to win? Yeah. Great job. What's the next job? What's the next spot? You know, you just.
C
It's true because.
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Because it's so fleeting.
C
Because it's very.
B
You don't know. Dan Marino thought he'd go to Super Bowls. He never went to another one.
C
Who was the player in recent vintage that was doing snow angels in the confetti on the field, laying on the floor. He had his kids with him. Was that. It was the Rams. What's the offensive lineman? He told his kids he was retiring.
B
I remember the moment he's laying down.
C
Doing snow angels and then he's sitting there with his kids and he's like, this is the last football game. This is my last game. Like, that's how you do it, right?
B
But even then, sit there and take it. He knows that's it.
C
Right.
B
This is a young head coach who's. Who's could probably be coaching if everything goes well for the next 30 years. And instead of thinking this is one of many, not one, not two, like he. He realized just because I'm young and just because I just won the super bowl doesn't mean I'm ever going to get here again. And two years from now, I just might be, you know, fired because I didn't make the playoffs back to back years after going, yeah, and then you're.
A
An assistant in Cleveland. It can happen. Who knows? How do we know? We don't know that much. We don't know that much about a lot of the people involved in this game. Who's the Surefire hall of Famer that played yesterday? You asked that before the show started. There's not. There's not one.
B
I don't know. I don't see one right now. Listen to kids. Walker's only, what, 25 years old and Drake Mays young. We don't know how it's going to age out, but we know we've seen enough of these stories where it ages poorly. Especially in football. Zig instead of zag, you get hurt. And, you know, just. I really appreciated what he did. I thought that was really cool thing. Let's go to Gilberto in the car. In the truck. You're on espn, New York. You're in a truck. I'm sorry.
D
What's up, Donnie? What's up, Pete? What's up, Mr. Han? Yo, that the best part of that super bowl yesterday, gentlemen, was the halftime show. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, Pete. You're gonna appreciate this one, too. What Lady Gaga did in singing salsa in English, she just locked up a third of the Spanish market, my friend. There's gonna be so many people collaborating with her.
A
I think she probably already had that option, if I'm be honest with you.
D
Oh, my God. Go.
B
Peace.
D
She killed it. She signed it better than JLo. I'm sorry. JLo can't hit a high note like that. And I love JLo, but she killed it, man. Okay, Ricky Martin was the political message, but he kept it where he says, honor your flag and stay with your pride as being a Puerto Rican, even though we're going through so much now. Okay, Aside from that, Don, I got one question for you, and it involves rock and roll. Can you do me a favor and let me know?
G
You could.
D
You could go be a short list. In the last 45 years, what's the number one rock and roll Song?
C
Song.
D
Let me know your thoughts.
C
Last how many years?
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Last 40 years. Wait, how many years?
C
He hung up.
B
Rock and roll. Grace, the greatest rock and roll song.
C
If you go 40 years.
A
Yeah. Only 40.
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Why am I going 40?
A
You shouldn't.
C
50. About the 70s.
B
I was gonna say the one that they did a documentary on. It is American Pie.
C
Is this rock and roll?
A
Yeah. Rock and roll a chance.
C
Yeah.
B
What's not rock and roll about?
A
I mean, the sound.
C
Soft rock.
A
Yeah. It's like. It's like they're almost folk. It's like if someone said, what is rock? You're not playing that Song.
C
Yeah.
A
What's rock and roll?
C
That's. That's actually very. That's folk rock. You're absolutely.
B
All right.
A
Thank you. Because you.
B
You ask a really important question.
C
This is important in today's times, considering.
B
How big a song it was. Smells like Spirit, and then how it was used in one of the biggest shows of all time is. Is Don't Stop Believing by Journey. In the conversation.
A
You tell me you're like. I mean, I always think that song is pretty cheeseball, even though I really enjoy it.
C
Yeah. Makes you feel good. Everybody sings it. Everybody knows it.
A
I mean it is like a quintessential. But you're saying going back how far.
B
Go to the school in the history of rock and roll.
A
History of rock and roll. Don't stop believing.
B
Well, 1955. All right. I'm just saying the relevancy. Everybody knows the song. Huge song gets used at the end of the soprano, so it gets a whole new life.
A
I don't like that.
B
Bohemian Rhapsody.
C
It's used in every arena.
A
Bohemian Rhapsody is hard for me to be like. That's what rock sounds like either.
C
Yeah.
A
Too weird.
B
Opera. But it's a weird song. But weird. Huge song.
A
But again, someone. A Martian says, what's rock and roll?
B
Oh, that. You see now you're. Because you're saying like what represents rock and roll?
A
That's what I'm going with. Because best is so subjective.
C
Johnny B. Good.
A
That's what I was thinking. I was thinking, do you go back.
B
Literally Johnny Barrett around the clock like that?
C
Yeah.
A
Or like Holly song.
C
Yeah.
A
I think Johnny B. Goode's actually a fairly decent stab at it.
C
I mean, if you want to be. Also, like, let's bring a bunch into the conversation. I think Smells like Teen Spirit is a rock star.
A
I mean that's, that's. That's a fair point.
C
That. That hits it.
A
And what is rock and roll from a mental. From emotional vibe standpoint? That is kind of rock and roll. Right.
B
God, it's such an. It's such an impossible question answer in the moment.
C
Yeah. I think we have a list.
B
I saw a list on Wednesday. Top five greatest rock and roll songs.
C
And number one would be the. Oh, this is perfect. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
A
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
C
Catch the whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
B
So many options. Interesting as you can go back to old school rock and roll from the 50s. Chuck Berry.
C
Yep. Brilliant. And what was great about this scene, of course, in Back to the Future, right. Is that he. Then Michael J. Fox goes into an Eddie Van Halen solo.
B
Right?
C
Right. Like, so he modernizes it into the solo. And that's the joke of, like, you know, you might not get it, but your kids are going to love it. Right. Like, but it shows you, though, the fact that it's the sound that is multi generational. Right. And that's, again, that's what the great thing about rock and roll has been.
B
Let's go to Will in Sacramento. You're on espn New York. What's up?
D
What's up, brothers?
F
How you doing?
B
Good, how are you?
F
I'm good, I'm good. Before I get to the Super Bowl, I worked at the Super Bowl. I did security. I was on field throughout the whole thing. It was an amazing experience. I rob Pete. I ran into Cipher Sounds in. In San Francisco, which was very interesting. He has some words about you. Yeah, he had some words about Pete.
A
Really?
B
That's.
F
Well, well, I'm a loyal Patreon. One app.
A
Years ago.
C
Yeah.
F
So, yeah. So I mentioned my frustration with the lack of episodes and he kind of put that on you.
A
I wish you could see. I wish you and the one Up Faithful could see our text thread. I truly. You know what? It may have to be shared.
C
It may be.
F
Well, let me get to the game real quick. So the game, the beginning of the game, it was just. It was really a snooze fest. It was everyone standing there, we were all just like, this is boring. You know, this sucks. And I kid you not, right after the first quarter ended, they already started prepping for halftime behind the scenes. So the production, the stage, everything was so intricate, so many moving parts. I was blown away. I'm from the Bronx originally. I'm Puerto Rican. It was a very prideful thing for me. I'm also a huge Bad Bunny fan. So to have this opportunity to be in this distance was amazing for me. And it was. I was blown away. And I knew who the guest performance, like the other people were going to be Gaga and Ricky Martin. Because I was privy to some rehearsals before, so.
A
And by the way, the betting market the day before suggested they knew as well.
B
Yeah.
F
Oh, yeah.
G
Wow.
F
I don't know how to get those things because these things are so top secret. The way they enter and exit the stadium before the game, you know, before game day, there is so much security. Like I said, this is my first Super Bowl. I was blown away. So I don't know. The only way I can See, how the betting market would know is someone is saying something.
A
Was someone one of your colleagues of some sort?
B
Or. Or it could be leaked by the people that are involved. I mean, there's so many people that have their hands in it. All you need is one.
A
Yeah. I mean, when you think about it as tight as you keep it, there's still a few hundred people.
F
Yeah.
B
It's.
A
Who have some access to it.
B
And there's so many people that care to know that it's really hard to be able to keep it buttoned up like that. Tessa and Wes Caldwell, you're on ESPN New York. How are you, dear?
G
Hey, guys. Thanks so much for taking my call. I appreciate it. I'm gonna be honest with you. I like the halftime show. What I really like was just the visuals. I really liked how, like, you, he had the humans inside, like, all of the grass and stuff like that. I think visually, it was really, really nice. And I really did like the Lady Gaga and I did like the little guest appearance that he had with Jessica Abba, the actress Pedro and Cardi B. I thought that was cool too. So I. I didn't have any problems with the halftime show. I thought it was cool. But I do want to just speak about. You guys already know the. The hell I've been through and his.
F
Performance about o line.
G
So just to see that on a. A high stage, like the super bowl, it was really, like, sad and like, baby pathetic. But I do want to speak positively about the super bow, to be honest with you. You guys know I love defense. And, you know, the Seattle Seahawks, I think they call theirself the dark side. You know, you had Legion of boom. I think they call it to the dark side for a Giants fan. And now we finally have a new regime. I just want to be called a bit of shade next season compared to them. Like, can we just get, like, a force close to them? Their defense was out of this world, and it's just like New England defense wasn't bad either. They were great as well. And it's like they just eventually collapsed. After a while, they're tired. I mean, they show the sports, slow motor, slow, slow view of when Drake made through that interception. All of the defense on the Patriots side just looked like they were about to throw up his ass out. It was crazy. But it was really kind of sad, too. But defensively, guys, that's what kept me into the super bowl as a fan. And then Mike Tirico said something that was exactly on point when he said that they don't have like world beater pass rushes. Like even a Brian Burns who had all those sack this year. He didn't say that, but I'm saying that. But what they had was quality execution. And he is right. They did not miss a tackle. They did not miss a beat. They knew exactly how to get around those trash o line guys. It was insane how just greatly executed. Excuse me. It was insane how they executed everything literally to perfection. So I was very intrigued because of the defensive performances.
B
And that's coaching, especially. And that's coaching and that's two weeks of preparation. And the one thing we said last week is New England had what happened, like 30 players in their first year or second year. And we're just so many young players. Like, I don't know if the left side of their offense is trash, offensive line is trash or just young. Young, you know, inexperienced. And the Seattle Seahawks were able to take advantage of it.
C
They didn't blitz that much, you know.
B
No. And that's what makes it so difficult.
C
They went, that was four on four.
B
That's crazy.
C
They were just taking it to them.
B
Yeah. And the thing about defense is I like it too. But you didn't see those like strip sacks or the pick six things that excite you.
A
Got the strip second late.
B
They're late.
C
The interception was. That was just not desperation. Yeah.
B
But usually when you're watching a game, it's 3 nothing, 6 nothing, 9 nothing, 12 nothing. You're like, this is going to cost them.
C
Yeah.
B
Because you can't keep settling for field goals. But I never felt that because it never looked like the Patriots were ever.
C
Going to score, even find rhythm until late. And all of a sudden they SC and you're like, all right, well, maybe, you know, did. Did Seattle unlace the sneakers a little too soon?
B
But maybe. And then when he got buttoned up again and they scored late, but it was. It was garbage time by that point.
C
I think Tess is onto something, though. You know how they put. They put slogans up in the locker room for every season. Right. Some mentality. Think about a little bit of shade. You don't want to be. You can't be the dark side. You're not that good yet. But she said, I just want to be a little bit of shade. So if you're the Giants defense, how about we're just a little bit of shade?
A
Yeah. Not a lot.
B
Let's.
C
Let's just start there.
A
We don't want to set a high bar.
C
We're not going to go complete midnight. We can't go midnight yet.
A
No, but there's shade.
C
We'll give you a little bit of shade.
A
Yeah, little shade. Yeah. Enough to nap. You know, like at the middle of the day, it's dark enough in the room.
B
You know, you get a little.
A
Shut up.
B
You work overnights, you know, you get home and the sun's up.
A
No, but it's dark enough that the blinds down. You get a little bit shoes.
B
Yeah.
C
That's all.
A
Well, I do think it was a game that just the Ebro this morning was like, I enjoy defense, Bob. I was like, okay, buddy. I said, I said, I know you do, but let's not act as if that defense led to a really intriguing game.
C
Wasn't the 85 Bears.
A
It wasn't the. Or the 2000 Ravens. It wasn't.
C
Yeah, it was.
A
They're really good. But it wasn't just that. It was. It was everything I said last week about what the super bowl usually is and used to be.
B
We were kids.
A
Always weirdly paced. Nothing about it felt like a game. Like compare championship Sunday, football wise, that didn't feel like a game.
C
Your take about this, was it Friday or Thursday? About Super Bowls and how the real the better games of the championships and.
A
These are all after the championship that.
C
Aged well because what you were saying, if nobody understood you felt it on Sunday. You watched all this is.
A
Is commercials and talk about halftime and a weird, un. Fun, watchable football.
C
Yeah. Weird game. Yeah. That's exactly what it was. Thanks for listening to my Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
A
I don't want to know how the.
C
Sausage is made, but I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
Air Date: February 9, 2026
Podcast Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
The first hour of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg dives into a candid and unfiltered recap of the 2026 Super Bowl, where the Seattle Seahawks defeated the New England Patriots in what the hosts call an "unexciting" and "fine" conclusion to a lackluster NFL season. The trio dissects the game quality, the impact of team parity, the halftime show, and the narrative struggles facing the league as it enters a generational transition. Listeners are also treated to calls from fans reflecting on both the football action and the entertainment surrounding the big game.
Consistently conversational, self-aware, and wryly humorous. The hosts riff on both the superficial and substantive aspects of football culture, current players, and their own personal biases—never shying from emotional resonance or sarcastic banter.
This Super Bowl recap is a "warts-and-all" conversation about a year in football that lacked fireworks and focus, but still captivated the nation—if mostly out of habit. The Don, Hahn & Rosenberg team serves up equal measures of tough love for the NFL, appreciation for underdog stories, and a sense that change (and hopefully, new stars) is coming for American sports’ most iconic event.