Hour 1: The Life of a Jets Fan

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 1: The Life of a Jets Fan

Air Date: February 26, 2026

Episode Overview

This hour of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg centers on the turbulent existence of a New York Jets fan, with a sweeping conversation that canvasses everything from the emotional Olympic return of hockey star Jack Hughes, the harsh realities of Jets fandom and their near-term outlook, pointed NBA and NHL comparisons about athlete durability and stardom, and a spirited, tongue-in-cheek breakdown of the 2026 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees. The trio—Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg—blend analysis, wit, and classic New York sports radio energy.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Jack Hughes and the Olympics: Stardom, Leadership, and Hockey Culture

[00:45–14:54]

• Don’s Olympic Return & Ceremony

  • Don describes the electric energy at the Devils’ homecoming for Jack Hughes after his Olympic heroics (“The energy was fantastic...Jack grabs the mic, and I thought he said all the right things about the stage. American. And then...it was a really cool touch bringing [Tage] Thompson on the ice too.” – Don, [01:14–01:53]).
  • Notes on the difficulty for athletes to address big crowds emotionally. Sheldon Keefe’s comments on Hughes’ composure.

• Jack Hughes’ Evolution into a Leader

  • Discussion about Hughes shedding his “quiet kid” image and embracing a leadership role—his Olympic goal and postgame address possibly being a transformative career moment.
    • “You blink and he's in his mid-20s...he’s found his voice...does this change him from a leadership standpoint?” – Rosenberg, [03:24]
    • Don: “He has handled it terrific, because then there's also the political aspect of it...he can't afford to make too many mistakes here because everybody in the world's watching.” [05:15]

• Would Any Player Get This Attention?

  • The group debates if anyone else scoring the goal would be as big, or if Jack’s background, family, and look makes him the perfect American hockey ambassador.
    • “There's a story behind it. So there's a couple of guys, I think...but you're right, Warenski scores, is this the same story?” – Don, [07:10]

• Amplified Stardom & Market Impact

  • Alan speculates if Hughes played for the Rangers, he’d be an even bigger star.
    • “If you played for the Rangers, he'd already probably be a bigger star in the market...people know the name, they know who he is, they know what he looks like.” – Hahn, [08:29]

• Caller Perspective: Hockey Grit and the Missing Tooth Moment

  • A casual fan calls in, highlighting how Hughes’ toothless, bloodied, but victorious look set him apart from today’s “prima donna” athletes.
  • “This dude got his teeth knocked out and he came back into the game, scored the winning goal. I think if he didn't have his tooth knocked out, like that was the draw for me.” – Vic (caller), [11:13]
  • Don and Alan agree: “Hockey players are a different breed, man...In the era of load management, and me, me, me...this guy gets his teeth...it's not even a thing...” – Don, [12:18]

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2. Athlete Toughness: NHL vs. NBA – “Spare Me the ‘Harder Than Ever’”

[15:34–24:59]

• Back-to-Back Schedules Post-Olympics

  • Devils’ packed schedule after the Olympics; comparison to the NBA’s 65-game minimum for postseason award eligibility.
  • Alan slams Jay Williams’ take on Get Up! that it’s unfair to expect NBA players to play 65 games:
    • “They're asking you...not to play the whole season like Michael Jordan did. Almost every year he won MVP.” – Hahn, [16:43]

• Comparing Generations

  • The hosts recall stories of NBA legends flying commercial, contrasting with today’s luxury charters.
    • “[Greeny] said, I was once in an airport at a Cinnabon, and standing in line with me was John Stockton and Karl Malone...They were getting on a commercial flight to play in a game that night.” – Alan, [18:54]

• Physicality, Travel, and Comfort

  • Don and Peter emphasize how much easier modern players have it. Ominous “in-flight death” instructions, anxiety, and germy strangers become jokes versus flying private.
    • “Athletes are flying as gracefully as anybody has ever been transported in their lives.” – Don, [21:11]
    • “You’re with a team. Everybody, you know, everybody. Everybody's chill.” – Alan, [21:23]

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3. New York Jets Trade & Draft Speculation: “A Year Away from Being a Year Away”

[30:01–42:02]

• Shefty Bomb: Jets Trade News

  • Adam Schefter reports: Jets are sending Jermaine Johnson to the Titans, getting back Devondre Sweat (DT; not related to Montez Sweat).
    • “Jets will be getting back a defensive tackle, a massive human being, Devondre Sweat...what makes it interesting is it does kind of put into focus what they plan on doing at the number two pick, right?” – Alan, [31:09]

• Draft Projections and Jets Future

  • Debates over strategy: do the Jets prioritize defense or wait for a franchise QB next year? Will Arch Manning force his way elsewhere? (Gary Myers reports he won’t, but skepticism lingers).
    • “It just complicates it even more. If it's even possible, Don. To complicate the life of a Jets fan. It just did.” – Hahn, [42:02]
  • Alan: “The Jets are a year away from being a year away every year.” – [39:02]
  • Rosenberg delivers a mock-eulogy for loyal Jets fans:
    • “Jets fans, I'm sorry...Our way of talking about football for you is, can you be bad enough next year...So we can get someone the following [year]?” – Rosenberg, [37:58]

• Tank Debate & Coaching Outlook

  • How will Aaron Glenn be judged in a season with low expectations? Will the team purposely set up to tank for a QB next season? Discussion on the thankless, cyclical Jets fandom.

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4. Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 2026 Nominees: “Who Gets In?”

[45:40–52:48]

• First Reactions to New Nominees

  • The hosts riff through nominees:
    • “The Black Crows...Hall of Fame worthy?...Don: If I have to do the homework, then you don't belong.” – [45:53]
    • Mariah Carey, Melissa Etheridge, Billy Idol, Iron Maiden (“You can't talk about metal without Maiden...Priest is in, so you got to put Maiden.” – Don, [47:17])
    • New Edition, Pink, Shakira, Wu-Tang Clan (“I imagine they're a first ballot.” – Rosenberg, [48:35])
    • Phil Collins, Lauryn Hill, Inxs, Oasis, Sade, Luther Vandross, Joy Division/New Order.

• What Makes a Lock?

  • Wu-Tang’s cultural impact (“kind of a lock”), Alan/Sade cleaning music, how many go in at once, and how Hall voting works.
    • “But Wu-Tang still gets in before [Eric B. & Rakim].” – Alan, [53:16]
    • Questlove (The Roots) suggested as a Hall voting guest for a future episode.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Jack Hughes and Iconic Moments:

  “The energy was fantastic...he almost broke down, like that’s how emotional he was. It was great.” – Don La Greca, [01:53]

• On Athlete Toughness:

  “You take a quote unquote pretty boy, knock his teeth out, have blood on his face, scores the game winning goal, it almost makes him more attractive.” – Alan Hahn, [12:02]

• On NBA’s 65-Game Eligibility Rule:

  “They're asking you...if you're going to miss time, 20% of the season, we'll give you 20 [missed games].” – Hahn, [16:43]

• On Jets Fan Existence:

  “Jets fans, I'm sorry...Some of them are 91 years old, had a good run, and they said, this is it, the end of the line. They'll never find out who is drafted next. It's another year of nothing.” – Rosenberg, [37:58]

• On Jets Frustrations:

  “The Jets are a year away from being a year away every year.” – Alan Hahn, [39:02]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [00:45–14:54] – Jack Hughes’ Olympic return, leadership emergence, stardom and hockey culture
• [15:34–24:59] – NBA/NHL athlete durability, era comparisons, private vs. commercial travel
• [30:01–42:02] – Jets trade news (Jermaine Johnson), Arch Manning rumors, tank strategy, state of the franchise debate
• [45:40–52:48] – 2026 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominee reactions, what makes a first-ballot Hall selection

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Tone & Language

• Conversational, humorous, and laced with a resigned New York sports fandom sensibility.
• Jokes and gentle ribbing abound. There’s a sharp blend of serious analysis and lighthearted banter.
• The hosts alternate between informed commentary (“You can't talk about metal without Maiden”) and playful mockery of their own teams’ woes.

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For Jets fans and New York sports diehards, this episode expertly encapsulates the highs (Olympic triumphs) and perpetual lows (Jets existential crises) while finding relief in pop-culture debates and musical nostalgia.

Transcript

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[B]

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This is Don, Han and Rosenberg.

[D]

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[A]

ESPN New York, and streaming live on YouTube. Three o' clock in the big city with Don McGregor and Peter Rosenberg. I'm Alan Hahn. 800-919-3776. Is Don Legreca now in Pittsburgh with the Devils? How was it back in the saddle last night after a couple of weeks off? Donnie?

[C]

Oh, it felt great. Like a couple. It was almost three. Yeah, but kind of the same old, same old for the team.

[A]

Can't sport.

[C]

It was. It was crazy. I felt like I was at a Ranger game. Everybody was, like, wearing the USA jersey. So the red, white, and blue. I hadn't mentioned nobody's. You know, the only time you're allowed to come into the Rock wearing red, white, and blue jersey. The energy was fantastic. I thought the Devils did a great job with the ceremony. And Jack grabs the mic, and I thought he said all the right things about the stage American. Yeah. And then I thought it was a great touch bringing Toage Thompson on the ice, too, his teammate for Team usa. That was a really cool touch and really just pitch perfect all around. And we're talking to Sheldon Keefe, the head coach of the Devils today, and he's like, you don't realize how difficult that is for an athlete. You guys are used to grabbing a mic and talking. You know, for an athlete to just grab a microphone in front of, you know, 16, 17,000 people and speak from the heart like that. And he almost broke down, like, that's how emotional he was. It was great. The energy was fantastic. And then they went on to just not score, which is a problem.

[B]

Well, that's the unfortunate all year long.

[C]

Now officially the 31st in goals and 32nd in goals per game. So the break didn't seem to help them at all, but it was a fun game. Good to get back in the saddle. And all anybody wanted to talk about was that game on Sunday and the emotions and everything. So it was really cool. And I'd be very interested to see tonight how the Pittsburgh fans here react to Jack. Right. Visual opponent.

[B]

I'd expect the same. I'd expect a lot of love.

[C]

I would think so. Right. Because one of the reporters here in Pittsburgh said that when Ryan Miller came back from the Olympics a few years ago as a. I guess he. I'm trying to think of, I guess he was still a saber. And the fans gave him a rousing ovation. Yeah, it was 2010, so it was right after they lost in Vancouver, got the silver medal and the fans appreciated the opposing goaltender. I think they're going to appreciate Jack and the goal that he scored here in Pittsburgh. And it should be a fun atmosphere with the Devils. It looks like they're not going to go to the playoffs, but at least I think the rest of the season that'll be kind of the vibe everywhere they go on the road and how he'll be received and all that.

[B]

You know, it's a sort of like sneaky thing. I don't think we've really discussed coming out of the Olympics with regard to Jack, is that like, he's obviously been the young star of this team now for a while, but now, like we blink and he's in his mid-20s, not a total kid anymore from the last couple of weeks. And really the last week he's found his voice in terms of like feeling comfortable getting a mic thrown in his face in a big moment and like really talking. I just wonder whether this sort of. And then the fact that he did what he did, which is have the biggest moment of his career, even though it's not in the NHL like Don, I just wonder whether this changes him from a leadership standpoint on this team, sort of in a way that's intangible moving forward.

[C]

You know, it's a great point because, listen, I just got to know him this year, becoming the television voice. He's always been somewhat self spoken, soft spoken. And just because you scored the biggest goal ever doesn't mean you're ready for this moment. As far as how you're going to handle yourself moving forward. If you choose to get into radio or television or choose to get into politics, you do that because you know you can handle these moments. You know, 30 seconds before that goal is scored, you know, if he's in the box in Canada, scores on the power play and they lose, he's the goat. He's the, he's the goat. And nobody's going to want to talk to him and nobody's going to care about different places.

[B]

Do you guys have like. That's like one of those back to the future moments. That's one thing that completely changes your life, everything.

[C]

And now it changes to the point of not just, as you said, maybe becoming more of a leader and trying to gain some momentum. He had a great play at the end of the game and it just. Unfortunately, the shot was blocked by Byram. It would have been amazing. Had to tie the game and he's exhausted, still played over 20 minutes. That's the hockey part of it. But now just you, you know, having to grab a mic and talk to the crowd. And I'm sure once the Devils return home or go to St. Louis on Saturday and then they're going to have a seven game homestand. And that's where I think you're going to start to see him making the appearances and getting asked more questions. Already traveling with the Devils guys is there's more people around the team asking players, asking the coach about the Olympics. It's become a thing and now he's got to be the face of that. And he's gonna get, he's gonna grow up pretty fast for sure, having to deal with stuff like that. So I'll be anxious to see how this all gets handled and if the Devils can, you know, take advantage of it on the ice. But certainly this is a great player that has now been thrust into a spotlight that very few hockey players have ever been in. Very few, very few athletes have been in. And it's, and I think he has handled it terrific because then there's also the political aspect of it. And I think he handled that all well, addressed the, the women winning the gold medal last night. So he's, he's, he can't afford to make too many mistakes here because everybody in the world's watching. Pittsburgh.

[B]

One more Jack question.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

He doesn't score the goal. We're at ski scores or okay, whoever. Like, are any of them getting exactly what he's getting because they scored the game winner or is it also because he is who he is, what he looks like, how he's come along, you know, like. Or would any one of them who score the game winning goal immediately be in the exact same situation?

[A]

Are you saying like, because he looks Americana A little bit. He's got. Because obviously, like, he's. Yeah, he's got leading role.

[B]

Was he number one overall? Number one number one overall. He was 18.

[A]

Yeah, he's.

[B]

He's in a major market. He's a good looking kid.

[C]

He's got a brother on the team. He's got a brother in Minnesota playing amazing.

[B]

Like was it, was it the perfect storm that's making him this big? You know what I'm saying, Don? Or would any of them gotten this treatment?

[C]

Well, I think it depends on a. The personality and the story behind it. You know, there's a story behind there, you know, his mom being involved, being involved in that too athletics and the fact that. And that she was working with the women's team. Father, you know, growing up as a coach. Two brothers in the NHL and the potential of them all playing on the same team. Like, so there's a story, I mean if Brady could. Chuck had scored the goal. There's a story there. His dad's. Keith could chuk and what he did with the four nations and all that. There's a story behind it. But you're right, Warinski scores. Is this the same story? I mean, he's one of the best defensemen in the NHL. But I don't know if there's a story, if there's a background. So there's a couple of guys, I think that if they score that goal of Austin Matthews had scored it, I think it would have probably been very similar. Top pick, big time player, you know, kid born in San Francisco, raised in Arizona. There's a story there. Yeah, everything has to have a story. And it just feels like Jack has a story. He's got the look, he's got the personality that, the personality that is like perfect for me is it's, it's not overly aggressive, not overly opinionated. But also he'll say things too. So there's that perfect storm as well. Where I think it was, it was a perfect storm for Team USA and the sport of hockey, that it was Jack that scored the goal.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm with Peter in the, in the way. Like, I'm curious to see what this does for his stardom because, you know, look, if you played, we all know this, if you played for the Rangers, he'd already probably be a bigger star in the market. But now that he's more of like, like he's known now around the country, people know the name, they know who he is, they know what he looks like. It will help if he can now lead the Devils to winning because that now takes it to another level. Right now. Does it happen this season? Who knows? But if it happens in the next year or two, he would become one of the biggest names in this market, if that can happen. Because it's like, you know, again, Messier came in as his reputation preceded him. He was a name. Brand names are everything. Sometimes everybody wants a piece of you. And so that's what I'm watching now over the next year or two is like, does he now go from this to then turn it into big success, team success, and as a leader. Yeah.

[B]

And also just being treated like that

[A]

dude on the team, he's always gonna be treated now from forever now.

[B]

It's just like a different. You're a different guy now. Yeah, it's so. Isn't that crazy? Like, I would just be curious to ask him right now. Do you literally feel different the second you walk in the locker room? Or. I mean, they're always going to say, no, we're all brothers. But, like, he's different. It's. It's crazy.

[C]

I guess, when you come in as the first overall pick and you're considered the best player. I mean, I. It does set up that you were kind of special to begin with, for sure.

[B]

But you stay a kid in the NHL, though, you can be a star and a kid for a while. People haven't called Sidney Crosby, Sid the kid for a while, in a real

[C]

way, you know, got gray hair now, which kind of pull me away. It's bad enough to see Ovechkin, basically. Like, he's got hair like me, but, like, to see salt and pepper hair out of Crosby, I know it's a gut punch for when he was standing

[A]

there where they were putting. Handing out the medal. That's the first thing I said to my wife. My God, Sid's got gray hair now.

[C]

Well, let's put this in perspective, right? Like, Nancy and the kids really got into the figure skating.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

And so Nancy figured, I'll go, no pun intended, get tickets to. When they come to the Prudential center or whatever. Because they always do that, right? Like after the Olympics. Oh, yeah.

[A]

On tour.

[B]

Hot.

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Sure.

[B]

Immediately, you can't get a ticket because

[C]

once you do things in the Olympics, man, it is. It just hits different. It's special like no other sporting event because. Because you get the average people watching that.

[B]

And it's so funny because no one. Like, everyone's such a fraud. None of us really talk about it. Then all of a sudden, it happens, and people end up turning on the TV every night before you know it, if you want.

[A]

So everybody has something to say about it, which is what Makes a compelling, a compelling moment. Now, Vic. And Hasbrouck wants to tell us what got him into this story. Vic.

[D]

Yeah. So what's up, fellas? I'm not a big hockey guy, but let me tell you, we're living in an era where athletes are such prima donnas, flopping everything. This dude got his teeth knocked out and he came back into the game, scored the winning goal. I think if he didn't have his tooth knocked out, like that was the draw for me.

[B]

The tooth has to.

[D]

Hockey players are. Yeah, the tooth was like, dude, this, the hockey players are really the toughest athletes in the world. Like, no, no doubt about it. And that's, that's what I think his stardom came from.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good one, Vic. You know, it's funny too, Don. You take a quote unquote pretty boy, knock his teeth out, have blood on his face, scores the game winning goal. It almost makes him more attractive.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Isn't that weird? It's, it's because every time he smiled, if you saw Don, did you notice last night he wouldn't smile. He wouldn't open mouth smile. No, he, when he was smiling, he kept his lips together almost like I know what it looks like and I'm not.

[B]

Yeah, I've had enough, I've seen enough pictures now.

[C]

And Alan and I being hockey guys, we don't blink at stuff like that because we've known that, we've seen that. But for somebody that's a casual fan, like the caller, you know, we just, we don't just say it for sake of saying it. The hockey players are a different breed, man. And in the era of load management and me, me, me, and I'm not going to play with injuries and if I'm not starting, I'm not departing thing and meanwhile this guy gets his teeth br. It's not even a thing. It's not even a thing, you know, and he goes out there and just adds to the mystique of it to tell you how much these guys are laying it out on the line and, and the biggest win I think too is for the Devils organization itself because a lot of, a lot of shine's going to be on them and hopefully they take advantage of it. And God love Lou when he was here, Lou lamarillo and the team doesn't win three Stanley Cups without him. He would have shut a lot this, a lot of this down, this organization, this ownership. Pete Albizzy is a great PR director and Nick Blackman, they know how to take advantage of this without it being too much, but you've got to be able to take advantage of having a spotlight on you. There's a franchise that has. It's so hard to work with so many professional teams in New York, and it's been a long time since they won. So, you know, the game was sold out last night. I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the games for the rest of the season or so, just to get a glimpse of him and to take advantage of that. So you're going to see a lot of Jack. I don't think he probably passed out after the game last night. Give credit. Not only did he play, played over 20 minutes. Tage Thompson played, Austin Matthews played. So all those guys played that I, that I saw.

[A]

Right.

[C]

The goaltenders didn't, but a lot of the guys still came back and played. So once he gets his sleep and gets his bearings, it's back to business as usual. But there'll be a lot of things he's going to have to do in the meantime.

[A]

Well, that part of it, yes. I just think it's. It was beneficial to the Devils to have a home game right away, to have that initial. Right. So you don't have to wait like a week before you play at home or anything like that.

[B]

Yeah, it would have been nice to come out with, you know, some spark when you actually play the game, but

[A]

it would have helped to get a goal or two. I, I.

[C]

Listen, I don't want to get too in the weeds on, you know, the devil's problems, but damn, they just can't score.

[A]

Can't score.

[C]

They.

[A]

Who had the breakaway and.

[C]

Well, there's two. He sure had a breakaway. Brad had a breakaway. Two breakaways. Peter didn't get a shot on goal.

[A]

He didn't shoot it.

[B]

That's unusual. I will say this right now. I've been watching hockey for roughly 40 years.

[A]

40.

[B]

The no shot on a breakaway is not comp.

[C]

Just, just missing that. It's just, it's in there. There's just too many skilled players to be this poor offensively. So. Yeah, but we'll see. We'll see tonight, Pittsburgh getting the best arena to do a radio show. Silence is golden here. Love it.

[A]

Wait, back to back.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

But I thought you have a game tonight.

[C]

Yeah, back to back.

[A]

Right out of the gate.

[C]

Right out of the gate.

[A]

I thought, I thought you were there and then you got a game tomorrow.

[C]

No, we got a game we're playing tonight. Back to back and then ready for St. Louis day off. In St. Louis, you have a day off, right? And then a 4 o' clock local start Saturday. So 5 o' clock Eastern. So three games and four nights right out of the box.

[A]

Boy, they just. It really, Schedule maker. Really.

[C]

This is the Olympic thing, man. I know. The condensed schedule. And that's. And that's where you feel it, right? You come out of a break and bang, three games in four nights. It's crazy.

[A]

But this leads to. And we'll get to what we wanted to get to, I promise. But it leads me to something on get up this morning that was discussed with that in mind. Doc is J. Will. And I had it out on Get Up. Well, you fight with everybody because you know what? If I'm here for the smoke. Number one. Number two, I love J.

[C]

Will. Will.

[A]

But. But he said something that even Greeny like was flipping out about.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

So I guess SGA sat out last night, so that whole Detroit Thunder game, meaningless.

[C]

It was a good game though.

[A]

Yes, but they were missing five of their top six scores. Joke. So anyway, so he's now, I think like six. If he misses six more games the rest of the season, he won't be eligible for mvp. Jokic, one more game, he's not eligible. Right. So jay is saying 65 game demand that they have to be eligible for postseason awards. He feels it's unnecessary. He doesn't understand why. He thinks they should get rid of it now. Understand. He doesn't understand why I trust me, we like. And then he said, you understand how hard it is on today's players.

[C]

Oh, come on.

[A]

And how difficult it is that it's a faster game and it's what these soft tissue injuries like we've never seen before. And I looked at him, I go, jay, they're asking you think about this. They're asking you not to play the whole season like Michael Jordan did. Almost every year he won mvp. I think every year he won mvp. They're asking you, could you just. If you're going to miss time, 20% of the season will give you 20.

[C]

And that's not enough.

[A]

And it's not enough. And he's like, whoa, if he wins, if he. If he only plays 64 games so he can't get MVP. Yeah, you have to have a benchmark at some point. So this is what blows my mind. So we were just talking about hockey and you know, again, the schedule's tight this year. It's very similar to NBA with these back to backs, these guys coming off of what they came off of emotionally. And every single one of them were in the lineup. And nobody would have blinked an eye if they just said, we're going to take one game. Like we just need to, you know, re. Acclimate time zone, whatever it is you want to say. Nobody would have blinked an eye, but they all played. And I'm talking to Jay about NBA guys like that want to win mvp, most valuable player of the league. And you know what? I think it's unfair to ask them to play 65 game.

[C]

Just unfair. And the other thing too, that I

[B]

think debate is they all.

[C]

To a man, oh, the game's harder today than it was back.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

They keep saying, all right, fine, maybe it is a little faster because I just think that's the way I think hockey is faster in a lot of ways.

[A]

All the sports are faster.

[C]

But. But, you know, I didn't have to worry about, you know, razor blade elbow from Malone in the blocks or getting, you know, a hard foul knocked into the third row.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Riley would tell you if you get fouled out.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Make that last foul count. Make it hurt.

[A]

Yeah. Or both. You hit them. They can only call one of them.

[C]

So, yeah, you might have to run up and down. Run up and down the court faster. But still there's times they take the breaks, but it's not nearly as physical as it was back in the day. And if you really want to go deep when these guys were like flying commercial and all, that's what Greeny.

[A]

So Greeny told this story. It was great. He enter in, he intercept. Because normally he lets the analysts, you know, go back and forth.

[C]

That's why he's the best.

[A]

But Greenie jumped in on this one because he couldn't help it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And he's like, oh. And then I'm like, oh, here he goes. So I stepped aside like, go greening. You cook. And he said, because you remember he was. He started out as a reporter traveling around with the Chicago Bulls. And so he said, I was once in an airport at a cinema, and standing in line with me was John Stockton and Karl Malone. Why would they in. Why were they at a Cinnabon? They were getting breakfast. Where were they going? They were getting on a commercial flight to play in a game that night. He's like, so don't tell me how hard it is for players, say. And then I just chimed in, I said, maybe there's not enough massage therapists traveling with teams these days. We need more massage therapist. It's a team onto itself, which good for Them. Yeah, you can get it great.

[C]

You should have it great.

[A]

But don't tell me it's harder to.

[C]

We've all flown charter because Peter's experiencing it now with the wwe.

[B]

I mean, every once in a while

[A]

it's not terrible, but.

[C]

Hey, but you've experienced.

[A]

I have, and it's not right.

[B]

It's not terrible.

[C]

I got to tell you, it is the closest thing to teleportation. You don't even know you're on a plane.

[A]

Beat me up, Scotty.

[C]

Now, the only difference is you still have to get. It takes as long to get there as it does any other plane. That the planes aren't faster, although sometimes it feels like they are. But it's the way. The way you get on the serve, you're relaxed. Everything's taken care of for you. It is. You just.

[B]

It's so different.

[C]

It's not a thing like any. Anytime you get on a flight commercial, there's always that sense of anxiety because all they do is remind you from the second you go through security till the plane lands that you could die. And in case you don't die, here's all the things you can do to avoid death.

[B]

Yeah. Now, if. But it may happen, you may die anyway. So here's what to be heads up about.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And if you're gonna die.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Make sure this mask for a minute.

[A]

Make sure that your seatbelt is fast.

[B]

Right. Right. And don't be leaning back when you die. So we don't want that so that

[C]

you're not that far from the seat when we're collecting the bodies. All right. And. And the, The. The flotation device that is your seat, you know, it could be your body floating in it because they couldn't save you.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Constant reminder, which creates the anxiety and all that. And the aggregate, all that's taken out. So these athletes are flying as gracefully as anybody has ever been transported in their lives.

[A]

There's also the anxiety of being with strangers in this little germ incubator rather than you're with a team. Everybody, you know, everybody. Everybody's chill. And then on top of it, I'll tell you this experience that I had because I've told you before, that first year that I covered the islanders, they flew commercial.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It was before Charles Wong was an owner and they were extremely cheap. So they were flying. And I'll never forget this moment on takeoff on a commercial flight with the team. The whole team's on this thing, too. And do you remember Eric Cairns?

[C]

Oh, sure.

[A]

Big dude, six, six. Big strapping guy, right? He, I mean you guy like him should be in exit row. It was definitely a strange pull.

[B]

You did the right thing.

[A]

Don would remember Eric Cairns because he was again, he was a tough, tough guy, a great teammate. Every one of his teammates loved him. He deserved exit row. You had to get him that because of his size. I kid you not. On takeoff, we're on this plane, I forget the airline, the back of his seat gives out. No, he falls backwards into the lap of somebody behind him. Now, as you know when you take off, g forces are pulling you which way? Backwards. Sure, he can't sit up. No, he's trying to, but the G forces aren't allowing him. So imagine someone screaming because this 250 pound man is in his lap. Yo, and he can't get up and he can't push him up and there's can't be strong. I am a professional hockey player and I'm on this commercial flight with this broken chair and this idiot screaming behind me and I can't do one sit up. Can't do it. Oh, I felt he was so embarrassed. And meanwhile, straight and like what am

[C]

I doing here instead of saving him? I'm sure the flight attendant came over and said, you know, you're supposed to be in a straight upright position. We're on takeoff here, sir.

[A]

What are we doing, please? So, yeah, when we talk about the difference between this era and past eras, please spare me the. They have it harder.

[C]

Listen, you know how I feel about Jwell.

[A]

That's bad.

[C]

That's a, that's a tough take, man.

[A]

But he, we have to be contrarians, we have to go against each other. But, but, but you know what? He dropped on me. He dropped on me. Did you ever play 82 games?

[C]

Here we go. But you know what?

[A]

I was like, oh man, dude, you're

[C]

not doing this in, you know, in a barn. You're doing. People are paying good money to see these athletes play.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think it's understandable sometimes, but you know what, I mean, I know you. I know the regular season is meaningless, but they still televised them. There's still a radio broadcast. There's still, you know, between 15 and 20,000 people in the building every night to see it. So sorry if it's not that important to you, but it's important to a lot of other people.

[B]

And the money that we're talking about is family changing, okay? I mean this is in the 70s where you had guys playing for 35 grand. Now granted, they were able to do cocaine at halftime, but still they're making no money and they didn't have to worry about fentanyl yet. The coke was good.

[A]

They weren't making any money and they were losing their money because the coke cost a lot.

[B]

That's the know now. So. But like, you know these guys. I don't want to be the old man. Like, I really don't.

[A]

But you will.

[B]

But, but for 82 games a year, to be expected to pour your heart out for 50 million, 30 million for

[A]

maybe 65 of them.

[B]

And to 65, 70, just give me

[A]

79, 80% of the games. And. And we don't. So I, I do not want to see them change this rule. But it's becoming a topic because it's like, oh my God, what if Jokic and SGA aren't eligible to be MVPs? What happens? The guy who earned it gets it.

[B]

That's correct.

[A]

And that's all that matters.

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[A]

Little REO Speedwagon there just for the. You know, just. Just to put along, like, as a bed for the read there. Nothing. It fit. Nothing specific about it. Just.

[C]

I love Oreos.

[A]

Keep on rolling.

[B]

Are they, like, good? Aria Speedwagon?

[C]

They're.

[A]

Yeah. Good's probably the right word. Good.

[B]

They're not great.

[A]

They're solid.

[C]

Fidelity is probably one of the biggest albums of the eighties. Yeah. Monster. Monster album one after another.

[A]

They must have. Would they have three big hits off that?

[C]

Yeah, three big hits. They. They eighties were. Were pretty big for them.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Borderline hall of Fame.

[A]

A lot of hair. Just hair. Just all of them.

[B]

Now. Speaking of which, Don, have you seen the list of the new 20, 26 nominees?

[C]

You know what? I haven't. I saw Anthony when he sent us, you know, the. The rundown mentioned that it's something that happened. I did not get a chance to look at it. No.

[B]

You want me to throw it out right now?

[A]

I got a chef bomb.

[C]

Oh, yeah?

[B]

Well, how big?

[A]

It's. It's not nothing.

[C]

It.

[A]

Okay, you want to just. You want to do that, or do you want to give me the chefy bomb?

[C]

You were shut down, Peter.

[B]

Yeah, he wants shefty bomb. Well, let's see how it goes.

[A]

It was teased. No, you got to honor it.

[B]

You got to honor it.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no. This is not. This. This is. This is a democracy. I'm uncomfortable. If there's two of you that want to talk Rock and Roll hall of Fame, I'll lay out.

[B]

No, but you. But you teased it already. And we don't want this to turn into Ron Guidry. We talk about it for three weeks before we bring it up. So let's really.

[A]

Is true.

[B]

Let's get to the Chef Dud.

[A]

There was a lot of this after.

[B]

I'll get to this after.

[C]

Yeah, they got a long show.

[A]

Okay, well, Adam Schefter today let us know that the jets will be sending Jermaine Johnson to the Titans. Now, that's, of course, where Robert Sala is. Salah is the guy who drafted Jermaine Johnson. He loved him. And the jets will be getting back a defensive tackle, a massive human being. Devondre Sweat Montez brother. I'm guessing, just guessing that.

[B]

I'm guessing. I'm guessing those are the Sweat Brothers.

[A]

All right, so this obviously, this can't be done.

[C]

Sounds like wrestlers, right? A tag team.

[A]

Sweat Brothers.

[B]

Brothers. They got to be.

[A]

But this. This obviously won't be official until the new league year in March. But that's an interesting move. Right. Because it's another one of Joe Douglas's draft picks that the jets are moving on from. So why would you get a massive defensive tackle when you're playing four, three. Well, they're not playing three. Four.

[B]

Not related, by the way.

[A]

Okay, not related. So we could put that to rest. But what. What makes it interesting is it does kind of put into focus what they plan on doing at the number two pick, Right?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Because Arville Reach now makes all the sense in the world. The linebacker from Ohio State who's considered the best edge rusher in the draft, and you put him on the other side of Will McDonald then, now you've got something with that massive defensive tackle in the middle. And that's part of what you would expect Aaron Glenn wants to do going forward. Him and his unique skill set.

[B]

Well, I just. I think congratulations are in order for

[A]

Tremaine because he got out.

[B]

Yes. And gets back to a guy. The guy who. A guy who loves him.

[A]

So apparently one of the other draft picks almost got out. So Nate Taylor said that the Chiefs were close to getting Breece hall at the trade deadline, so they almost moved him, too, but they probably didn't get the price they wanted. Sure. He was asking for multiple picks, and the Chiefs decided not to go in that direction. So he stays for now, and we'll see what they do with him. But here's where it really gets interesting because. Okay, so now if we. We can guess, that's what they're. We know what they're going to do at the 2. At the number 2 pick in this draft, and that makes sense. But then there's Gary Myers, who will.

[B]

He's too old for the league, in my opinion.

[A]

He's not going to play.

[B]

No, it's too late.

[A]

He's not going to play. But he does have connections. And he said, I heard again this week that Arch Manning absolutely will not try to manipulate the draft like uncle eli did in 2004 to avoid playing for the jets if they're in position to get him with the overall number one pick in 2027. He said, so relax, Jets Nation. So that's what he adds at the end of this thing. The big question is whether Aaron Glenn gets a shot at year three. So if they. If you have that understanding that you don't have to worry about getting Peyton by Arch Manning, because Peyton did this to the jets back in, what, 96, 97, when they had the number one pick, he stayed in school.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And then we know what Eli did to the Chargers to end up with the Giants. So there's family history of avoiding places they don't want to be. But if this, if what Gary saying, we know he's pretty plugged in over there. If what Gary saying is true, it doesn't leave you to like worrying about, oh, yeah, you'll get the number one pick and that's the year that Arch will tell you, go scratch, I don't want to play for you.

[C]

Right.

[A]

That sets up for a strange jets year, doesn't it? Because you now have your head coach calling the defense. You have changed your defense. Where it sounds like from all indications that they're going to play a different. They're going to play a 3, 4, that they have two young edge rushers. You think Reese has got all kinds of potential to be a great talent. You know, McDonald definitely jumped off the page. Johnson got hurt a lot. He was talented, but he got hurt a lot. They move on from him. And quarterback now, I don't think is a priority in this draft. If they feel like they can go for their quarterback next year, the issue is, of course, they got to suck again.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So do you like, does that, like, how does that work for the coach? Well, do you get a bridge quarterback? Just, just take us through one year. We don't need you for more than one year. And because we're getting our guy in this draft, do you root for the team to be bad again or do you root for, you know, like just be in the bottom, bottom five because this is a good draft. There's going to be a couple of. Remember Dante Moore was the guy that could have been in this year's draft, and he wasn't. There's going to be a couple, not just Arch Manning available next year, which

[C]

means you don't have to necessarily have the worst record in the NFL. It'll help, but it'll certainly help if you do and listen there. Even if they try to, there's not going to be a lot of wins. They're not overly talented. It's going to be one of the toughest schedules in the NFL. So whether you're rooting for them, the tank or not, they're probably not more than a 3, 4 win team anyway. But as far as how it relates to Glenn, let's not be lazy and just label wins and losses. We're going to have to dig deeper and look, look a little deeper into if he's doing a good job or not because I just don't know how many wins they're going to have. So when we analyze the jets in game, it's got to be more than just what the final score is. What kind of decisions is he making? Does the. Do the players seem they want to play for? Are things. Are they losing because of lack of talent? Are they losing because their coach doesn't know what he's doing? We're just going to have to put in the work, guys, because it's just unfair to say, well, he's got to win seven games, otherwise he's going to get fired. Well, then guess what, he's probably going to get fired.

[A]

Right? But it's also an owner that you never know what's going to happen. They lose four in a row and they're not closing games properly. You could say, you know, they're in every game, but they aren't winning them. And a good coach would win those games four in a row. You don't think Woody's like, I've had it, this guy's out. But.

[C]

But here's. Unless you're going to go tell me you're going to go and get like the next great coach, whatever the equivalent to John Harbaugh was this year for the jets next year, but again, you're. You've got $92 million under the cap after this deal they made with Tennessee, an outrageous amount of money. Now, you can't just sit on that till next year. You're gonna have to use some of that this year.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But it could be on players that are under contract for several years. So it could still affect you in 2027. You're most likely going to bring in what you hope is going to be the next franchise quarterback. If you pick the right guy, you're going to be. Have a ton of money to spend in free agency. Do you really want to have that all around having fired another coach? But at the same time, do you want all this happening with the wrong coach in Aaron Glenn? So people smarter than us are going to have to decipher if Aaron Glenn's a good coach or not beyond just wins and losses, because I just don't see a lot of wins.

[B]

You have the. Do you have the apology music over there?

[C]

I can't imagine they don't.

[B]

Jets fans. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that it's February 26th.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

And our way of talking about football for you is, can you be bad enough next year, this whole season that hasn't even come close to Starting yet. Can you be bad enough to possibly get the draft pick to maybe improve you the following year? Because the sad part is there are jets fans right now who will not make it to the next year. Some of them are 91 years old, had a good run, and they said, this is it, the end of the line. They'll never find out who is drafted next. It's another year of nothing. And as much as we need to break it down, I just want to take a moment to say I'm sorry because this is unfortunate. No fan wants to go into the coming season thinking, this season is obviously awful. How bad can it be? So we can get someone the following.

[A]

The jets are a year away from being a year away every year. Every year.

[B]

A year away from a year away every year. That's as bad as you can be.

[A]

And the problem is, though, is that you need to show improvement, right? You do. And it's almost like. Think about it this way, Don. It's almost impossible for them to be worse when you consider they have moved on from players. They have draft picks. The head coach has a superpower we didn't know about. He was holding out well, and he says we call him plays. So you have to believe just. Just by accident, they're going to be better, which could take you out of the running for quarterbacks that you need. It's very bizarre, this whole situation. Now, you remember Kuiper's way too early mock. The latest one had them taking a safety at 2, which we all thought was insane.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

And then the defensive tackle at the 17th pick, right, the one they got from the Colts, well, they don't need a defensive tackle. So do they take the quarterback there? Do they take Simpson there before he goes to the Steelers and just say, well, the hell with it. We got an extra pick. Let's take him, see what happens. And then they just. They say, you know what, Manning? You. You won't say no to us. We're saying no to you. We need one now. We can't wait for you. We gotta win now. What does the franchise really want to do? To me, that's what I'm interested in seeing. Because if you're a fan, as much as you've gotten so used to tanking, they almost tank it. You don't even know that they're tanking. They're just bad.

[B]

It's hard to tell.

[A]

But you. You almost have to, as a franchise, say, we can't wait another year. So while this sounds nice from Gary Myers, I don't Know if you could possibly find yourself in the bottom five again without having and a complete upheaval of the, of the leadership of this franchise, you can't possibly be bad. Again, as bad as you have to be to be high enough to pick one of these. What about leadership?

[B]

Really?

[A]

Well, I mean. Well, Darren Mujee's involved in this too.

[B]

Oh, you mean that leadership.

[A]

And I actually think they have something in him.

[B]

Yeah. He at least gives you a little bit of something.

[A]

Right. So far we like the mood.

[B]

The mood. He feels like he could be something.

[C]

Well, the idea, in as much as it sickens me to say Tank, but obviously that's what they, the jets probably will do is to just put a team on the field that you can't win with. That's why I think whoever they select at quarterback is going to tell you what their plan is. If they sign Cousins, Cousins are going to win some games. Yeah, but if they sign Davis Webb Smith or Davis Webb, Davis Webb, maybe not as much. So I think that's what you kind of wait to see. Because if you go out and get a competent quarterback that can win you some games, then the jets are going to try to do everything they can to save Aaron Glenn's job and then let the chips fall where they may. And the fans are going to go apoplectic because if it costs them a draft pick, they're going to go nuts. Right, and I understand that, but at the same time, you're evaluating your coach because none of this is going to work if you don't have the right coach anyway.

[A]

So to me, these tweets that I read you, it's like you. It offers clarity, sure, but to me, it just complicates it even more. If it's even possible, Don. To complicate the life of a Jets fan. It just did.

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

All right. Should I do it now? Do you see something else I didn't?

[A]

No, no. We're gonna have calls, so this would be ideal time and then we'll go to call.

[B]

I'll hit it quick and then.

[A]

Of course you will.

[B]

Hey, yo. Here we go. Don. Ready?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Rock and Roll hall of fame. 2026 nominees.

[A]

Let's see what do we got?

[C]

The Black Crows like it. I don't. Come on. Hall of Fame worthy Black Crows are really good. I think it's like two songs, you know. Stop it.

[A]

There's two songs, you know. How dare you. The first guy to say do you do the homework?

[C]

If I have to do the homework, then you don't belong.

[A]

Oh, wow. Really? So only played on the radio means you're good. Got it.

[B]

Mariah Carey.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

How do you did not.

[B]

That's the thing.

[A]

You have to expect that name.

[B]

No, but you have to accept kind of what the hall of fame is now. It's a really. The pop culture. In which case it's hard to take her.

[C]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

It's not shocking. Melissa Etheridge.

[A]

Don.

[C]

I guess. Compiler.

[A]

Wow. Wow. Come on. She had a couple of bangers.

[B]

No, but that's.

[A]

That's a. Compiler had a couple of bangers.

[C]

Everybody thinks Compiler is an insult.

[B]

She originally from a band?

[C]

No, no, she's just solo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My window.

[A]

Yeah, all that stuff. So she's James Harden. She just played on a lot of teams. A lot of numbers.

[B]

He's all of them. Billy.

[C]

John Sutton.

[B]

Billy Idol. Folks.

[A]

You know this. He's. He's got a lot of work.

[C]

He was massive in the 80s.

[A]

Really was. I can't Hairstyle changed the world.

[C]

I can't complain about that.

[B]

Iron Maiden.

[C]

Are they in or is this the you still nominees?

[A]

They're a nominee.

[C]

So they may not be in.

[B]

No, we don't know.

[A]

We don't know.

[C]

I listen. I love Maiden. You can't talk about metal without Maiden. Priest is in. So you got to put Maiden.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

See, now you're talking now for Alan Hahn. Get ready. You may see visible excitement here.

[A]

Visible.

[B]

New edition. New edition up for the I'll tell you what make. It'll make for a hell of a speech. We get Bobby out there for a speech. We're in business.

[A]

Oh man. This one that's.

[B]

Wonder why this one may not be received hugely well in this room. Pink kind of hard for me to accept in 2026. I'm not saying one day but like I. With the names we're mentioning. Pink being there yet to me is just.

[C]

Yeah, it's a little not there too soon.

[B]

I mean she's early 2000s the beginning. But Like, I, I.

[A]

She's a huge star and she has pretty crazy, right?

[C]

The huge. The criteria is that you're 25 years removed from your first album. So that's kind of crazy.

[B]

She's 2001.

[A]

Yeah, sounds right.

[B]

Speaking of which, I know you're both at least a fan of certain things about this artist. Shakira.

[A]

I'm in. Yes. In fact, I'll go.

[C]

Listen, I don't know the body of work. I just know the body

[B]

of work. But here's one.

[A]

I think it works.

[B]

We're all being lockstep on this one. For the first time, the Wu Tang Clan, what it's been.

[A]

Is this their first. Is this first ballot?

[B]

Like, this is the first time?

[A]

This is first ballot. Okay. There is first ballot.

[B]

I imagine they're a first ballot.

[A]

They are first ballot out of this whole list. Their first ballot.

[B]

And rest in peace to power. Riz's dear friend, who is the co manager and founder of the group who passed away this week, Jeff Buckley.

[A]

Buckley. Don helped me.

[C]

Help me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Phil Collins.

[C]

How do you not.

[A]

How do you not. How do you not. His right.

[C]

He's in with Genesis.

[A]

So this would be songs.

[B]

But he's in with Genesis. Like, those are ones where I don't feel the need to rush all the time. No pun intended. Like, there's no pun there. But, like, I don't. You know what I'm saying? Like, if he's in with Genesis, there's so many people. You have to get in.

[C]

I know, but. But listen, he's not doing well health wise.

[A]

True. No.

[C]

You know, in the Air Tonight is an iconic song that is over 40 years old.

[B]

That's just one.

[C]

And he's got other iconic songs he's got to go in.

[A]

There's a list, by the way, Don, top five iconic songs. Doesn't have to. Doesn't matter what genre.

[C]

All genres, you know, that would have to be.

[B]

That's a triple list again, you know what I mean?

[C]

Peter's a good person. I mean, Peter. Peter's a rock fan too, but even in the hip hop.

[B]

Oh, no, it's.

[C]

It's the air tonight.

[B]

In the air. In the Air tonight is. There's no culture.

[A]

Everyone does the drum song.

[B]

And if it wasn't big enough, then they had the epic scene in the Hangover. The Hangover. That took it to another level.

[A]

Yeah, I thought you're gonna say Miami, this one.

[B]

You know, listen, I don't know if they'll. I don't know if they put. I don't know if they put two hip hop in the first ballot. Lauryn Hill is up this year.

[A]

I mean, if they induct her, she'll just be late anyway.

[B]

Yeah, it's a good. Well, they could do it afterwards. That got in excess.

[C]

That's a good.

[A]

Not great.

[C]

There's a lot of. There's a lot of work there. I mean, there's.

[B]

I enjoy their big records. I don't know. They feel like hall of fame to me. Here's one I'm totally lost on, so I'll defer to you both. Joy Division, slash New Order.

[A]

Oh, that's new. New Wave.

[B]

I got nothing.

[A]

New Wave. Mid.

[C]

Very iconic for its time.

[A]

Yes. Yeah.

[B]

I might have to hear something. I don't even know.

[A]

Yeah. New Order.

[C]

They had.

[A]

They had some stuff.

[B]

Now, these guys are huge. And there's no question they're going in and they're having another moment right now. Oasis.

[A]

Mmm. Is there champagne Supernova.

[C]

That album for sure. But like, two.

[B]

They have two Monster.

[C]

Monster out is to a monster albums enough.

[A]

And then they just. That was it.

[B]

I know. But then they can't get along and now they're back. But, like, I have a hunch now that they're doing stuff again, the next several years is going to be a huge Oasis thing.

[A]

Well, like, they'll find a sound again. Well, no, no.

[B]

They just did the tour this summer where they did, like, five stadiums or whatever. It was four stadiums and it was huge. They sold out everywhere. I remember when they played Metlife through.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In the days in Manhattan leading up to it. I saw the shirts all over the city just because they were playing MetLife. And, like, it's a big thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, here's one. I don't know how you don't put her in. Sade is up this year.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

I don't know why now. It couldn't feel less rock and roll. But she is Sade.

[A]

Sweetest Taboo.

[B]

I mean.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, that's all I know.

[B]

Oh, the people who love Sade.

[C]

No.

[A]

Ordinary love.

[C]

Yeah. You know. You know, maybe. Yeah.

[B]

You know, Ordinary love. People celebrate her whole catalog, though.

[A]

She's the song Pearls. Like, there's so many great. She has so many great.

[B]

I mean, listen, are you. Are you trying to clean your house this weekend or not? Because if you are, you need to play Shot A. It's Sunday. You got the vacuum out, you're turning on Shode and you're cleaning the house.

[A]

So you do clean the house.

[B]

That's what I hear from A lot.

[A]

I do. The kids are out.

[B]

See, that's another vibe shot. A's got multiple vibes. It's clean the house or clean the pipes. You know what I mean?

[C]

You know, Allen's got quite the life. I mean, you know.

[A]

No, the kids are never out of the house now.

[C]

What are you talking about?

[A]

But when they're out of the house, it's my man. It's.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's game time. And that's brought to you by Telemar Do. Lastly, because when it's game time, Donnie, it's go time.

[B]

Luther Vandross, the last one.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Hard to. You know, he's. That's Luther. I know.

[A]

Now, is there a limit to how many you can induct in a year? Because that's.

[B]

You know, it's like. I forget how they do it. I'll look it up.

[A]

But it's like, who you take. Yeah, they get 50 NFL writers and they knock it down to 12, and then they make the case for each individual person.

[B]

Here's the last one. I'm sorry. Bill Belichick is also there.

[A]

He's gonna have to wait.

[B]

So those are voting for your favorites. But then there are other people who are still there from previous years. You know what I'm saying? Because, like, it, for example, I can't wait to get Wu Tang in. Yeah, but Eric B. And Rakim aren't in. You know what I mean? So, like.

[A]

But Wu Tang still gets in before they do.

[C]

But.

[A]

But it's not right. No, I'm not saying it's right, but

[B]

their impact is so big.

[A]

It's the. It's the Don rule. Who you taking out? If I gave you two, and you can only take one, who you taking? You know it's Wu Tang. You know it is.

[B]

I know, but it's. It's the influence. It's the. I just don't know.

[C]

First ballad. Right.

[B]

Like, that's what we're saying. Has to be their first time.

[A]

Has to be first battle.

[C]

Well. Well, here's the question. It's just because you were eligible doesn't mean you're nominated. Right? So they have been nominated for the first time. Like. Like Maiden. Have they been nominated before?

[B]

I. I think the list that I just gave you, though, are all new nominees, so.

[A]

New nominees.

[C]

Maiden Whedon's first album was 1980, so it obviously wasn't, oh, 25 years since the first album.

[B]

Yeah. No, it's not like that for everybody. So you can.

[C]

You can be nominated on the 25th anniversary of your first album. But you may not be right.

[H]

Right, of course.

[B]

Which is how you get. Which is how some years. Like last year, Chubby Checker went in.

[C]

Yeah. You know, like, that's a long day. Luther Locke. Phil Collins is a lock.

[A]

Those are Mariah.

[C]

The only two locks.

[A]

Mariah's not a lock.

[C]

I don't know if she's a lock.

[A]

No.

[B]

Well, you said the locks are who?

[C]

Luther Vandross and Lauren Hill.

[A]

Collins, you know, Wu Tang's not a lock.

[B]

I think Wu Tang is a lock, kind of.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

The culture, the international cultural impact is so.

[C]

Yeah, but the first battle.

[B]

And what about the kids? Don't wor. The children love woot.

[C]

Well, this isn't me saying who I like. And.

[B]

No, no. I know Oasis feels kind of locked,

[C]

but I don't know if that.

[A]

No, I need to know the. The parameters. Look, what. Like, how many can you take?

[B]

Do you want me to try to do something. Do you want me to do some research? Do you want me to try to do something? That's unheard of. And some people complain about. We're gonna lose a few people.

[A]

All right.

[B]

But would be. I think that we would enjoy it.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

Should I see if I can get Quest Love from the Roots to call the show in the next, like, week or so and explain to us how this works? Because he's, like, part of the whole thing.

[A]

Yes or yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We should do it.

[B]

Right. I mean, it'll be no sports talk.

[A]

You see the Gary Myers of the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Who's the guy that's done it forever? He's like, I stood in front of the room, I made a case for Iron Maiden.

[B]

No, he does. But he told me he traded votes when they got Tribe Called Queston. He told me, like, explained, like, there's vote trading. Like politics.

[A]

Someone said, then you have to vote for mine.

[B]

It's a real political thing.

[A]

I don't hate this. Don you.

[C]

No, not at all.

[A]

All right.

[C]

He's an interesting guest to begin with.

[A]

Of course he is.

[C]

And this does have a sports feel to it because it's hall of Fame, right?

[A]

Correct.

[B]

There's a. There's a sports vibe. On that note, let's take a break.

[A]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN. The ESPN ESPN New York app and your smart speakers from 30 for 30 podcasts.

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