Hour 1: USA Wins Gold

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 1: USA Wins Gold

ESPN New York | February 23, 2026
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode opens with a snowstorm story and pivots quickly to a full-throated celebration of the United States men’s hockey team’s dramatic gold medal triumph over Canada at the 2026 Winter Olympics. The trio cover every angle of the victory—the drama on the ice, the emotional resonance for fans and players, how moments like these unify (and sometimes, ironically, divide) the country, and the role of modern social media in shaping the narrative. The show’s signature banter and New York sports sensibility shine throughout, blending sports breakdown, fan reactions, and pointed commentary about the intersection of politics and athletics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Surviving the Blizzard & Daily Life in New York

[00:39–06:00]

• Personal storm stories from all three hosts about battling the blizzard, emphasizing New York hustle and community spirit.
• Shoutout to Long Island Railroad workers for their efforts in getting everyone home, despite citywide shutdowns.
• Alan, Rosenberg, and Don compare snow totals (“I would say 14 or 15… The city's got to be around 18” – Rosenberg & Hahn, [02:43–03:12]).
• Anecdotes about neighbors helping one another, and the unique hazards (and questionable wisdom) of venturing out for Dunkin Donuts in snow-choked streets.

2. The Gold Medal Game: Narrative, Drama, and Pure Sports Joy

[10:31–24:44]

• Dramatic retelling of USA’s Olympic win: Focus on Jack Hughes’ redemption (takes a costly penalty, then scores the golden goal).
  • “Jack Hughes went from possibly being the goat… then to be the guy that scores the golden goal.” – Don Hahn [11:39]
  • “We have such a connection, this show does, with him. So I was just so happy for him…” – Don Hahn [12:00]
• Significance of the win:
  • Emotional resonance of U.S. being the underdog; echoes of “Miracle on Ice.”
  • The rarity of a true “best on best” scenario in international hockey—depth, intensity, national pride.
  • Why hockey, uniquely among U.S. team sports, delivers these Olympic moments. (“Basketball, we own it… but for some reason the fourth sport, hockey, is the one that really delivers.” – Rosenberg [13:48])
  • “To have an event where there is genuine pride and genuine enjoyment that had nothing to do with money. That is so cool. That is the pinnacle of what sports is supposed to be…” – Rosenberg [15:28]
• Canadian Heartbreak:
  • Reflections on the pressure Canadian stars like Sidney Crosby and Nathan McKinnon face; how losing gold (or not playing) devastates them (esp. for Crosby). [17:25–18:22]
  • Criticism of Canadian fan reactions—complaints about overtime format, officiating, calling them out for being poor losers. (“You come across as such losers when you do that. Lose with some pride, for God’s sake, please.” – Rosenberg [19:26])
• Miraculous Moments:
  • Praise for American goalie Hellebuyck: “He got the secondary assist on the game-winning goal… a guy that everybody says can’t win the big one.” – Rosenberg [20:58]
  • Rewind on Bode’s “alley-oop” goal—called “a eurostep in the air… never seen anything like that” – Don Hahn [21:15]
  • On the broadcast: Shoutout to Kenny and Eddie for calling the game, though critique of NBC’s camera direction (focused on crowd, not players, after the goal).

3. The Politics & Social Media Intrusion – Celebrating, Then Arguing

[28:26–39:44]

• Social media’s toxic influence:
  • “If there was a day that I was going to quit social media, it would have been last night and today.” – Peter Rosenberg [28:26]
  • Misrepresented or out-of-context quotes (esp. re: Nathan MacKinnon) stir unnecessary controversy.
  • Host frustrations: “It ruins everything – I don’t care about your opinion. Everything.” – Don Hahn [31:17]
  • Dream of going “Thelma and Louise” and all killing their social media accounts in protest.
• Impossible to just enjoy:
  • Hosts lament that every big moment is hijacked online—either for petty grievances (three-on-three format complaints), or political claims (“both sides embarrassed themselves [talking about Hughes]; he loves being American and a hockey player, that’s it”). – Rosenberg [32:51]
  • “He didn’t score for the Democrats, didn’t score for the Republicans, he scored for us Americans.” – Rosenberg [33:19]
  • Discussion around Jack Hughes’ “just plain proud-to-be-an-American” postgame remarks, and his right to just be a celebrated young athlete.

4. Locker Room Politics, Media Agendas, and the Fight for a Pure Sports Moment

[43:36–49:59]

• Caller brings up controversy: President’s phone call to team, alleged joking about inviting women’s team, laughs in the locker room—was it a bad look?
  • Hosts argue “agenda-driven” narratives distort what happened; “Keep your fat hands off sports. Just stay out of it.” – Don Hahn [47:22]
  • Alan urges that politics only infect when officials (like the FBI Director) are present in locker rooms; wishes for less politicization.
  • All three bemoan that modern American culture, and particularly social media, virtually ensures some party will try to hijack any unifying moment for their “side.”

5. Hockey’s Popularity and the Elusiveness of Pure Joy

[50:00–51:23]

• Reflection on hockey’s unique power to cross boundaries and become culturally huge—everyone “figures out” how the sport works when the stakes are high and it’s team USA.
  • “It’s very odd… Seems like people can figure it out when the spot gets big enough” – Peter Rosenberg [50:36]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Surviving the Storm

• “We always complain about the MTA, but I wanted to shout them out for the effort they made last night.” – Don Hahn [01:24]
• “If it was left to me, a blizzard like this would end the city as we know it.” – Alan Hahn [02:21]

The Game & Redemption

• “Jack Hughes went from possibly being the goat… then to be the guy that scores the golden goal.” – Don Hahn [11:39]
• “There was just this special feeling of, man, I just witnessed something awesome.” – Alan Hahn [12:57]
• “The pinnacle of what sports is supposed to be about and always gets lost in the money and the CBAs and all that.” – Peter Rosenberg [15:28]

On Canadian Reaction

• “You come across as such losers when you do that. Lose with some pride, for God’s sakes, please.” – Peter Rosenberg [19:26]
• “That’s sports now, though. We always have to find the reasons why we should have won.” – Don Hahn [19:26]

Hughes & What It Means

• “You know what I know? He’s a hockey player that scored a goal and that’s all he cares about. And he loves being American.” – Peter Rosenberg [32:51]
• “He didn’t score for the Democrats, didn’t score for the Republicans, he scored for us Americans.” – Peter Rosenberg [33:19]

Politics, Media, and Agendas

• “Keep your fat hands off sports. Just stay out of it. Stop ruining a moment with whatever your agenda is.” – Don Hahn [47:22]
• “We all know why. Because someone wanted that out there as well. Look, these are good old boys. Look who they’re with… Everybody. Shut up. Everybody. Let’s just enjoy this game.” – Alan Hahn, [46:46–48:00]
• “It is the one sport that has unified us in the past, and it should have unified us now.” – Alan Hahn [49:49]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Storm Survival Stories: [00:39–06:00]
• Dramatic Recap: USA Wins Gold: [10:31–24:44]
• Why This Matters: Hockey, Country, and Joy: [13:47–18:22]
• Canadian Heartbreak & Social Media Reactions: [17:10–21:56]
• Broadcast Notes, Iconic Celebration: [21:57–24:44]
• Social Media & Narratives: [28:26–39:44]
• Locker Room Politics and Media: [43:36–49:59]
• Reflections on Hockey’s National Moment: [50:00–51:23]

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Tone & Style

The discussion is equal parts celebratory, comedic, and exasperated with the modern media landscape. The group’s camaraderie shines, blending classic New York candor with long-form sports insight, cultural critique, and slices of everyday life. Listeners feel the post-victory high and shared frustration at how swiftly pure moments are dissected and “ruined” by hot takes and online distortion.

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Summary:
This hour delivers an exuberant, heartfelt, and sometimes biting celebration of one of the biggest moments in U.S. sports—a rare, dramatic Olympic gold in hockey—while also serving as a miniature case study of how even clear moments of national unity struggle to remain unsullied in the social media era. If you want an inside-out look at the moment, the meaning, and the fallout of a true sports triumph, all through the lens of three passionate New Yorkers, this episode delivers.

Transcript

[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

Don doesn't hold a candle to that pumpkin pie haircutting freak.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This isn't North Dakota. This is New York.

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This is Don Hahn and Rosenberg, the

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

4:00 the big city. Don Hahn and Rosenberg. Bit of a delayed open today that we can guarantee will not happen again during the baseball season because of the weather, because of how difficult it was transportation wise today without making the store any longer than it needs to be because of the Met game, we were unable to get on until the game was over. But in the future, if there's a Met game, we will always be on in some way, shape or form at 3 o', clock, whether it's on the stream, whether it is on YouTube. It'll only affect whether we're heard on 880 if the Mets are on in the future. So we apologize for the one hour delay, but we still got three hours of sports talk with you until 7:00'. Clock. Boys, how did you survive the storm? I see you both are here.

[Don Hahn]

So that's good starts there, right? Just being present, I had quite an excursion last night getting home middle of the actually middle of the night in the early morning hours through the blizzard. But I just want to shout out the Long Island Railroad, the conductors that they were closing Penn Station, they were shutting down the the trains and I believe they're still not operating. And there was only a couple of trains left to come out and they made sure to get everybody home. And they, they were just as adamant to get home too, because a lot of them also wanted to get to their houses. So I just wanted to shout them out because that was not easy to go through last night in the middle of the blizzard getting those last trains out to Long Island. So I appreciate we always complain about sometimes the MTA lir, but I wanted to shout them out for the effort they made last night.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Now the amount of people that make this world still function when it's this insane. Thank you, God bless. Because if it was left to me, a blizzard like this would end the city as we know would just be the end.

[Don Hahn]

All right, Donnie, how about you? So let's measure up, boys. Donnie, how many?

[Alan Hahn]

Sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Come on. I would guess I didn't bring out the rulers like you guys did, but I could tell. I would say got probably around 14 or 15 is what I would guess that I shoveled and plowed earlier this morning.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know. I know I saw my car this morning.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

And it was so much more than last time.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

My guess is the city's got to be around 18. It was a ton on top of my car, but I had no idea

[Don Hahn]

what was seen at Central Park.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's probably it. I think everybody got over a foot. I don't think anybody dodged anything less than that. And maybe because we just went through it a little over three weeks ago, or maybe at least the weather is going to be a little warmer. Hopefully this won't be as much of a problem as last time was. But, you know, I live on a cul de sac and we're all very close, our neighbors, so we. We were all helping each other out, getting through. So it was nice. Last stone storm. I was in western Canada. I wasn't home, which really stunk. But just to be here. And if the frustrating thing was, like, Saturday and Sunday, they were like, nice days. And I'm, like, thinking it didn't feel like something catastrophic was about to happen.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Where it's like warm and the snow starting to melt. And I was finally able to take down the Christmas decorations off the house. And this felt like, all right, now we're getting towards the end of February and start getting in the spring. And just knowing that over a foot of snow was coming and they got it right, man, it hit, you know, probably by me, it really started cooking around like three, four o'clock in the afternoon. And it did not stop until about 10 o' clock this morning for me.

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[Don Hahn]

Yeah. We got so on the island that some of the stuff I saw was like, ice slip by the airport. We're talking about 29 inches, which is insane. That was. I think that the largest I saw, largest accumulation I saw was like something about the Nesconset ice slip area, which is middle of the island. We. I was lucky. Like, we in my area, I'm also on a cul de sac. Donnie. We like you saw, I put the tape measure out not where any drifts were, where it was flat and it was 15 inches. So that, you know, that's still fairly significant, but not close to what other parts of the Island. Yeah, it's which they're probably still digging out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And also listen, I shoveled out, car was clean, plows came by my street and I just, I had a hankering for some Dunkin Donuts. Coffee, no sponsors, you know, shout out. So it's like, it's like three miles away and like I'm halfway through. I'm like, this was not the greatest idea in the world.

[Don Hahn]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, some of the main drags were still, you know, had slush and all down to one lane.

[Don Hahn]

Why did you go out? You know, it was a travel,

[Peter Rosenberg]

travel ban from, for my area was noon. So I did not violate any, any law. All right?

[Don Hahn]

Okay, okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I did feel like, you know what, this probably wasn't a good idea. So anybody that thinks, all right, it's over, let's get back to. No, no, listen, if you don't have to go anywhere, don't go anywhere.

[Don Hahn]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Plus you're gonna be in, there's still plowing, they're still cleaning streets. So just don't be in anybody's way.

[Don Hahn]

So. So last night, so the, the easy part was getting on the train, right? It's, it's one o' clock in the morning. It's just the train makes its way through, all the way down, all the way out to where I am. And that was the easy part. It's getting onto the platform which was cleared again. Those guys, they put in a ton of work. The plows were there in the parking lot. Parking lot was plowed, my car covered. But I was, I put a shovel in the back just in case that's a good idea, and opened the back, took the shovel out, cleared off the car and cleared off enough that I could pull out. I get down the hill, out of the parking lot, pull into the street and that's when it was like, okay, now it's getting real. Put in the, all traction, you know, everything I could figure out in my car that I needed to make sure I wasn't going to slip. I get as I get as close to my house and now I'm worried because there's one lane. So you have to think it's. It's middle of the night, whiteout conditions. You really can't see much in front of you. Flashers on, high beams on. You have one lane. If someone, especially a plows coming the other way, it's lights out, it's gone. This is a two man show today and I fortunately didn't have to deal with that. I'm not that far from the train station. Literally about a mile and a half. I get to my street, which is an uphill to get to the street. I get about halfway up, the tires tell me you're done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're done.

[Don Hahn]

Not only because now you're trying to get it. You can't. The car starts to turn and you don't jam brakes because you know what happens when you lock your brakes? It just gets worse. So now I put in reverse and just try to slowly go backwards. My car went perpendicular to the street, and I slid perpendicular sideways all the way down the hill back to the main road I just got off of. If there's a car, if there's a car parked on the side, and if there's a plow coming across that main road. Again, this is now a two man show. Like, it got treacherous. So I found another way around to where my neighbor who lives next door to me, but he has a driveway on another road, flatter road. I went into his driveway, which is a large driveway. I parked right by his garage off to the side, and I. I got out of my car, close the door, and I walk across his backyard, which now I'm like, It's like the Hoth system in Star Wars. Like, I'm like, I'm Luke Skywalker, just. I'm seeing visions. I'm just hoping to get to my house. Cannot figure it out. If I had a lightsaber, I might have needed it. Climb over my fence in this snow in a suit, by the way. Now, I thought it looked pretty good last night. I had a little turtleneck on. Pretty good. So I'm like, it was for a short little walk. It felt like it was like a mile and I was fighting against every element possible just to get to my front steps. It was scary last night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that's why you got to try to stay close. And yes, I did go for coffee, Peter. Yes, I did, because we need some coffee.

[Alan Hahn]

We need an endorsement from this, though. If Don literally was willing to risk it all for Dunkin Donuts Allen, that, that has to be an endorsement. And his name, it can either be Dunkin Donuts and it's Nothing changes or it's Dunkin Donuts. But no matter what, the man had a hankering for some Duncan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's it.

[Alan Hahn]

And he risked it all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, it wasn't that bad, but I

[Don Hahn]

mean, I had a hankering to get home. I risked it all. But we don't want to because you

[Peter Rosenberg]

want to get home.

[Don Hahn]

We don't want people.

[Alan Hahn]

There's no endorsement There, we're not going

[Peter Rosenberg]

to name names, but the people that don't care about their families, you know, they took advantage and stayed in the city and partied up and everything.

[Don Hahn]

Family, that, that. Well, yeah, it's like golf.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, I'm sure the people, I am sure the people just, just, just a quick way. I'm sure the people that took advantage of the hotel also love golf. No, I, I, I mean, yes, that's a yes. So I get it. Listen, not everybody loves their family.

[Don Hahn]

It's, it was like, it's an easy choice to make. It's an easy choice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But yeah, when you love your family and it's an easy choice to make if you don't. I had, I had people home.

[Don Hahn]

When you have people and kids at

[Alan Hahn]

home, you don't want. If it's, if it had just been your wife at home. And she said, and Stephanie says, hey, don't worry about it. I'm moving for the next two days. Do your thing. But you got the kids there.

[Don Hahn]

Well, if she, like, remember, she was in Vegas with Cali. If she was in Vegas with Cali, then, oh, yeah, I'm, It's a bacchanal. A bacchanal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Alan might have died last night for a different reason.

[Don Hahn]

Right? Yeah. But, you know, you got people home, you want to get to them, of course, but that's what it's about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, you know, just, it's another one of those odd days. But we do rally around each other when things like this happen. I just, like I said, I loved our neighbors all helping each other out because we're all kind of stuck in that same moment. And we had a moment yesterday. It was, it was incredible. I know Alan and I are hockey guys. You know, Peter is a hockey fan, but I wouldn't consider him a hockey guy. Not a. Didn't matter. It didn't matter. It just, there's something about that kind of best on Best Canada, US and the symmetry of 46 years to the day when they beat the Russians and eventually won their last gold medal almost 50 years ago. And just having that kind of quality on the ice. And I was just so happy that Jack Hughes went from possibly being the goat right where he takes, he takes the high sticking penalty that the US can't take advantage of, then commits a high sticking penalty to give Canada and all that firepower a power play of what, a minute and ten seconds towards the end of regulation to win the game and then to be the guy that scores the golden goal just. And the Connection that, you know, I have it with him calling Devil games and I've gotten to know the family and he's a great kid. I sent out the pictures when the Twins birthday went to a Devil game and he was injured at the time and he suggested we take the picture. And then the station Peter sent the picture when he came after he was drafted, when he looked like he was just 12 years old. And then Allen sent in the picture when you and Bill Pedo took a picture with him when he was first drafted. He did an interview on msg. I feel like we have such a connection this show does with him. So I was just so happy for him, but just so happy to watch a great game and see it end the way that it did and the way it was handled with the Johnny Goudreau stuff. Yesterday at around 11 o' clock was just a real special sports moment that I hope everybody really appreciated.

[Don Hahn]

Isolated in sports, right? Like that's that to me, what I, what I wanted to enjoy was the fact that you're talking about, first of all, two high level, elite, talented teams to go all the way to the fourth line. I mean, the scratches were star players, right? Were great players. So the fact that you had that kind of a best versus best winner take all moment that you knew mattered deeply for both teams. How often do you get something like that? And that's what we got. And we were treated to a one, one, you know, late third period. Like there was just something that you just knew this thing was going to be epic and you just wanted it to end the right way. And I know, you know, there's, there's narratives about everything else around the game and including in the game, which is the three on three, which some people argue about, which is fine. But I just wanted to enjoy, like you just said, Don, like, like that game ended. And whether it was for a minute, five minutes or a half hour, there was just this special feeling of, man, I just witnessed something awesome. And we don't often get to say that. So I really enjoyed the spectacle of it and the fact that it was something again, a sport that I absolutely love. Hockey, I don't know any other sport that delivers something like that in the Olympics the way hockey does.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it's crazy.

[Don Hahn]

Yesterday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Baseball's never really been an Olympic sport. They've had moments where they've had, they've been in the Olympics, but not to any kind of level like the other sports. Basketball, we own it. You know, they had. Don't win it every year, but now that once we've gone to the pros, we can't really be touched.

[Don Hahn]

Never lose. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, and for just some reason, the fourth sport, hockey, is the one that really delivers, it brings it, and it was just such a great moment. And the thing that's also really cool about that is that everybody can enjoy it. Right. We all come. We're all supposed to come together as a country because we're all rooting for no matter what side of the aisle you're supposed to be on. We're all Americans and it's not our sport. Right. It's not something we're known to dominate. So for us to be able to rise through that and win the whole thing makes it special. But in a world where this guy wants to be on a super team and this guy wants to parlay it into a big time contract and this one doesn't. Doesn't want to be on the team because he's not playing, it becomes such a business. All sports, even hockey, it becomes a business and you become selfish. That you can have an event where there is genuine pride and genuine enjoyment that had nothing to do with money. That a deprived of country. The way that those players all cared about each other, their arms are around each other singing the national anthem. How does that not stir you as an American to see these multimillionaires that in a couple of days are going to go back to their job, but for a moment decided for two weeks to go represent their country and care that much about a medal? That is so cool. That is the pinnacle of what sports is supposed to be about and always gets lost in the money and the CBAs and all that. To just have a tournament where it's all about country and pride and team and to see those guys all come together. How do you not get emotional? How do you not get stirred up by that?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. And we've had really cool moments in other team sports, but for whatever reason, basketball at its best is so dominant that it just doesn't hit the same. Like knowing that you're not the favorite, that Canada generally has your number, that there hasn't been a gold medal since 1980.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

It adds, it just, it's. Soccer is the only thing that could obviously, you know, trounce it if it were to ever happen, if the US were to win the World cup or even play for the gold medal in the Olympics.

[Don Hahn]

Pretty epic. But. But.

[Alan Hahn]

So that underdog factor adds another layer that we're not used to with the United States competing in international sports and it makes it that much better.

[Don Hahn]

That's probably. I bet you that's exactly what it is, though, Peter. Right. It's the fact that a country that is so used to dominating and some people thrive in it and some people are uncomfortable with it. Right. But one way or another, it's a country that is expected to dominate, expected to be the best at everything that it does, that this is one that it's not always the case. And so it does have a little bit of that underdog feel that we know in this country. Just watching movies is our favorite story. And so I think that's probably a big part of why it does become so compelling and so enjoyable when they do win, like they did yesterday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. And in the way that they won. And on the other side, here's Canada, and we talked about it last week when the women won that you get handed a silver medal. In team sports of the Olympics, you do not win a silver medal. You lose a silver medal.

[Don Hahn]

So crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you see Sidney Crosby, who did not play in the game, and you know, that gutted him, despite the fact that he's not only won a gold medal, he has scored a golden goal, he has won three Stanley Cups, he's going to waltz into the hall of Fame completely gutted and devastated because A, his team lost and B, he couldn't play in the game. And you know, he must have. There's no way he's playing in the Penguins next game because if there was an ounce of chance he could play, he would have dragged his body onto

[Alan Hahn]

that ice for sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So, you know that he's probably really, really hurt. And it was just gamesmanship when they said there's a 70% chance he's going to play. And it was going to be a game time decision. No chance. You know, Nathan McKinnon, he's won a, he's won a Stanley cup, you know, gutted, devastated by that defeat. You know, I didn't love what he said after the game about, well, we played better, so what? This isn't figure skating. There's no judge who scores the last goal, who wins the game.

[Don Hahn]

All right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I thought that came across a little petty. But that's the pressure they're on, guys. In Canada, that's the one thing the US Never feels the pressure to win a gold medal. Although I do think that there was a sense that this was their time to do it. But in Canada, they live, they breathe it, it's their sport. So they were probably a little bit more devastated than the US Would have been, but I didn't love those comments. And the crybabies in Canada on social media, all of a sudden they were complaining about three on three, even though Canada won in overtime. And in this tournament, three on three, it's not about who played better, all right? It's your sport. We get it. And history says you're better at it. You know what? But this year you weren't. This year we got the goal, okay? So stop your crying, all right? You still dominate. We know, but for one shining moment you didn't. And we took advantage of it. So get over it, okay? But the constant complain, complaining about three on three, complaining about the offici. Stop it. You come across as such losers when you do that. Lose with some pride, for God's sakes. Please.

[Don Hahn]

That doesn't exist anymore. That's sports now, though. We like that sports. We always have to find the reasons why, you know, we should have won. It's. Think about it. In the market that wins, it's about why they're great in the market that loses. It's what we did wrong that allowed them to win. It's never like, man, us just play like they. Their goaltending was great. And this, you never. It's always about what we did wrong. But that cost us. So it doesn't matter whether it's pro sports or the Olympics. That's what you're always going to get.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that's why we don't have judges. Otherwise, you know what? The Patriots would have won that super bowl against the Giants. The Patriots were better, right? But you know what? The Giants found a way to win that game. And you know what? Hellebuck making that save on Taves, that's hockey, all right? That's why you don't judge it because that save was unbelievable. And I love the fact I don't even if you guys realize this or even looked at it. He got the secondary assist on the game winning goal like so he saved their bacon on the stick save. And he actually assisted on the game winning goal. And this is a guy. And I was so happy for him because he's the guy that everybody says can't win the big one.

[Don Hahn]

I did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can't do it.

[Don Hahn]

I did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, he did it. He may. And he didn't do it because, you know, they. They trapped him or a post was hit. Matter of fact, the US hit a post. They could have easily won that game earlier.

[Don Hahn]

Two, right? Was it in both corners?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I couldn't tell if it was both corners or did it go Off a body and then went off the post. I'd have to take a look at

[Don Hahn]

it in the overhead again, crazy game,

[Peter Rosenberg]

but just an amazing save.

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

That was like a Euro step. It's a Euro step in the. Honestly, I've never seen anything like that happen it in the air to himself to split defenders. And then the finish. The determination on that. Let me ask you this. On Hughes's game winner. Because it went. Did it go under the pad or did it go under the arm and over the pad? I'm trying to remember because everything was such a blur.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, it was so amazing. But the question was, did he get

[Don Hahn]

all of it or did he just. Did Bennington just get like surprised by.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know if you went through the same thing I did, but looking at. Because you always get these things that pop up in sports all the time of somebody. Somebody videotaped their reaction to the goal.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And it's all over social media.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was delayed for me too. I wasn't sure he scored.

[Don Hahn]

Well, here's why. The director, for whatever reason stayed on Bennington then went to the crowd instead of usually a goal scorer. What do they do, Don? They follow him and his celebration and then everybody meeting him. You didn't see Jack Hughes because he was buried in players by the time the camera went back to him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's kind of getting. It's kind of getting panned a bit. Although I think, listen, Kenny and Eddie, they were really good. Unbelievable job. And I mean I reached out. I was just so proud of knowing them and friends with them that they did. He. Kenny nailed every damn call. Some of the biggest goal that's going to live forever, man, you can't get that wrong. And he nailed every single call. But the one thing that NBC got panned for and I never noticed this, Peter. Every time there was a goal, even in the women's game, the goal. And then they would pan up to the crowd behind the net. It was just a choice that they made.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, I didn't know that's a thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was every goal.

[Don Hahn]

I thought the director was caught off guard. Like every goal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Neither every goal. It was just something they must have decided before the Olympics. I'll have to ask Kenny about it when I see him. They pan up to the Crowd behind the net. And that's not the way we do it in the. In the US With NHL games. You're right. You follow the goal score. You see the react like it was so. Because you didn't see it in the moment till the replay where Jack threw his helmet into the crowd. I still heard a story, who's got that helmet and how much that could go. That one in the crowd, the way he threw it, there's no way it landed on it.

[Don Hahn]

But I didn't say, okay, oh, wow.

[Alan Hahn]

It was the. The overall celebration in the moment was one of the best team sports celebrations I've seen in a long time. I watched that replay so many times of the bench reacting and jumping.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've never seen that. I've seen Cups won in overtime. And the reaction from the bench, it was like a bomb went off. Like their bodies just all went. Went crazy. And I think it was. J.T. miller said that, like, he was afraid he might have cut somebody because the way he dove over the boards, like just, you know, forgetting that he was on skit, that it just exploded. So it's like, oh, my God, they scored. And then I could see, because we're inski. Threw it across ice. So you don't see who comes into the picture right away. Then I see it kind of turn. I'm like, it's 86. I'm like, oh, my God, Jack scored. Marco's jumping up and down on the couch.

[Don Hahn]

It was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Marco woke me up at 8 o'. Clock. He's like, dad, Olympics are on.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. So.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, and so it was just. It was. You know, honestly, we all have our dogs in a fight when our team wins. But the last time I reacted that way, guys, was when Parisi tied the game in Vancouver and then Crosby ended up winning the game in overtime. Just to have that moment, just really, just incredible.

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So no sense going from all the hockey open to jumping into into the NFL binge. So we'll do the NFL binge at 5:30 after Kendrick Perkins. That to me makes the most sense. So we'll get your calls. I mentioned during our meeting that if there was a day that I was going to quit social media, it would have been last night and today. Just all the stupid things to get tweeted and how political that game began and both sides trying to like tug at, you know, to make it their own and people hating three on three and all that. But another reason why I want to quit is because I saw the Nathan McKinnon quote and about they came across like as a sore loser.

[Don Hahn]

Right. But out of context.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was out of context. So I think it makes sense to, to give you the full quote. He says it's been closed for a while. You know they're an amazing skilled group of players. Just. Yeah, I just felt like it wasn't going to be. You guys can be the judge of who the better team was tonight. But they won. We lost. So the complete opposite. So somebody cherry picked that one sentence that meant the complete opposite of everything he meant to say I'm done with social media. I might sign off tonight. Well you know what? The only way I won't is if I can't think of a nice goodbye. I think there should be like a suicide note. You know what I mean? Like something that send out to everybody. Say this is my I'm out, I'm done. It's over. This is because I hate social media. Despise it. I'd spit in its face if it was a person. Then punch him dead in the forehead.

[Don Hahn]

Yep, you're all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's scum and I don't want to be a part of it. It's gonna die soon anyway. Peter knows better than anybody they because he's on top of it. At some point it's gonna implode. So get out before it happens. At some point we're gonna look back and go. You know, there's a thing called Twitter. Really? Yeah. Morons got together and spoke to each other like. Like monkeys, you know, picking bugs off their back. Really? They did that? Yeah. And was around for a while.

[Alan Hahn]

Really? That was. That was. See, the problem is I was with you. I thought you were right. I thought we were going to get to the time when it would be gone. And I kept thinking that about social media. Now I am. I am hearing that there may be some drop off in social media.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

But it seems that we're still. I don't know if it's ever.

[Don Hahn]

I'm gonna put it out there right now. I'm willing to do it. If all three of us are willing to do it. Thelma and Louise and whoever their third friend was. I don't remember.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don Hahn]

We just go. Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jar Jar Binks that they took out of the movie.

[Don Hahn]

Right now. Like right. Like right now. Right now. We hit the lead on. On X. Right now. All three of them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what?

[Don Hahn]

I'm ready.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm ready to do it.

[Don Hahn]

Because I'm with you, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So you want to just do it?

[Don Hahn]

I couldn't even enjoy. I just want to have fun with it. It's supposed to be fun.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just ruins everything they ruined. I don't care about your opinion. Everything.

[Don Hahn]

I don't care. I had fun watching this game. The fact that you want to find a reason to make it about you. Nobody cares about you. Somebody won a gold medal. That's fun.

[Alan Hahn]

But why don't you just. Just for the sake of argument, can you just not go on when you don't want to see what.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I mean?

[Don Hahn]

I want to see. Like Don said, I want to see replays. I want to see what players were saying. You want to watch plays over again. Like what? It's the analysis. What I don't want is the. For you. I. I hate when they catch me for you.

[Alan Hahn]

They catch you with the four of you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They do.

[Don Hahn]

They know. It's so maddening. I don't want this. The suggested stuff. They say. I don't want that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why does everything have to be hijacked? I just can't have.

[Alan Hahn]

Because.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then. And again. I shouldn't even go there. But I will. It's just that there's never anything that's going to bring us together. Ever. Nothing.

[Don Hahn]

No. Because nobody allows.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because of. Because nobody's gonna allow. All has to attack from Mars.

[Alan Hahn]

Attack from Mars?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no. Because there'll be somebody that'll come with some guys with some Angle about, you

[Alan Hahn]

know, it might be me. I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

You know, these four Martians, you know, their plan, it's not really working out. Why can't we, what have we done for them?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Great point. And it's my fault. I should just ignore that. There should be a place where I could use social media, cherry pick the things that I need and want and ignore all the other stuff. But sometimes I'll stumble across something and it'll just anger me.

[Don Hahn]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And again, I'm not coming from either side now. Again, I'm not, you know, I gotta play it down the middle. I'm just telling you, both sides embarrassed themselves. They both did. Both sides embarrassed. All trying. Jack Hughes getting pulled. Come with us. No, no. Come with us. He meant this. No, he meant that. Oh, no, he's this. No, he's that. You don't know him. You know what, I barely know the guy, but I know him better than you and I don't know anything. All right? But I just know he's a hockey player that scored a goal and that's all he cares about. And he loves being American. I don't know if he's a Democrat, whether he's a Republican, but I know two things. He loves being a hockey player and he loves being American. And he got the score for the US he didn't score for the Democrats, didn't score for the Republicans, he scored for us Americans. And if we can't all come together with that, then go screw yourself. I'm done. All right? Honestly.

[Don Hahn]

And the fact that he was talking about how much he loves his country is just basically because he literally just loves. In that moment, he loves it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know why he loves it? Because he's a 24 year old, good looking kid. He's, he's got top of the world ma.

[Don Hahn]

That's a good point.

[Alan Hahn]

All right. By the way, how would you.

[Don Hahn]

Great place right now.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Look at Jack Hughes. You want to see someone who has every reason to love America? The Jack Hughes Run for 24 years has been outstanding.

[Don Hahn]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I'm telling you because when I was 24 years old and if I could play hockey and I'm dating Tate McCray, I, I don't, you know, tariffs and all. I have no, what are you talking about? Are you here?

[Don Hahn]

She's got to make a choice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did he just confirm that relationship?

[Alan Hahn]

He's with Tate McCray.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I, I, they've been seen. I know they've been seen together.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. I'm sure you know what they probably they just. Probably just go to different restaurants. I'm sure it's all very innocent. Whatever, it doesn't matter because it's America. He could do whatever he wants. All right. And have a good time. So I don't think he was making any kind of a statement. No, you know, he just. But everything that he said, it was so spot on. Everything he said after, about how they love each other, how he loves being an American, all the thing he said, it was so pitch perfect. And then everybody said, well, I think he meant this, I think he meant that, you know, you know Jack, now I'm talking about Jack Hughes, you know, Jack. Meaning nothing. Zero.

[Alan Hahn]

I'll tell you one thing, getting that goal sure cancels out five minutes earlier when we were cursing poor Jack in our group chat. For the penalty. Yeah, for giving away two minutes of that penalty. I mean, you can believe how bonehead. How boneheaded both penalties were. I mean, there was a moment there. The US Had a four minute advantage to basically end regulation, Don. It's almost unheard of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You gotta mind your stick. You gotta mind your stick and listen. And I love. I tweeted it out, you know, all I did, I walked by him with the kids on their birthday and I just said, jack, hi. And I introduced my son and my daughter to Jack and he's like, how about a picture? You know, and boy, did that age well. Yeah, because, you know, it's like taking a picture when you're eight years old. You know Mike Eruzioni, right? I mean, it's that level, it's that. And he's such a good guy and I just hate this. Pull him in any direction. You know what direction he's in? He's in the direction of being a good looking 24 year old kid who scored one of the biggest goals in the history of this country and he's playing in the NHL and he's having fun being an American. And anything beyond that, I'm sure would take equilibrium that he doesn't, doesn't exist in his mind right now.

[Don Hahn]

So stop saying that. We have to get to a point where we just understand that a lot of times these guys are athletes. They're not reading long form political dissertations. This is not what they do for a living.

[Alan Hahn]

You don't think they were on Politico this morning on the flight?

[Don Hahn]

I'd be a little surprised if they're really dabbling that deep. You know what, they were fun. They're just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If they were, good for them because they're Allowed to be whatever they want to be. Yeah, but I'm telling you, they didn't do anything but score for their country.

[Don Hahn]

That's it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's it.

[Don Hahn]

In the moment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Didn't get paid a dime. Although I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of money that's gonna come from this. But that's the decision. That's why they all. They were gonna strike. Not they want to go. They want to go and represent their country. Let's celebrate that. No matter what side of the aisle you're on, nobody took a victory except us. All right? No side took a victory. We all won, but we can't ever accept it. Well, yeah, really, I'm just disgusted. Discussed it with both sides. Trying to claim victory over a hockey game.

[Don Hahn]

Trust. I trust no one. Because everyone has a damn agenda. And unless I put the time in to figure out what that agenda is, I can't trust you. Because we all know in the end, that's all it's about. And that's what social media has done to ruin moments. Ruin moments. Agenda and even not the political.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, it's three on three. It shouldn't be. I hate three on three. All right. You hate three on three. That's the first thing that popped in your mind. Instead of jumping up and down that we won, it's like, yeah, but it was three on three.

[Don Hahn]

No, I just want to sound.

[Alan Hahn]

That was my first thought before overtime, though. I did tweet. That was the last thing I tweeted before overtime.

[Don Hahn]

Right. Didn't we all agree. We talked about that with the women's gold medal. We said the same thing, like, three on three. That's a little weird. But, hey, it's better than shootout.

[Alan Hahn]

That's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, that's the format. They both have to play it, you know, and believe me, don't cry for Canada when they. Who they had on the ice. Dear God. I mean, every line. I honestly like just how.

[Don Hahn]

So, David, who was the best player in the entire tournament?

[Peter Rosenberg]

They had.

[Don Hahn]

Connor McDavid is probably the best player in the world.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Dear God. He is on the ice with the. And I understand the Russians weren't there. Some people thought, well, you can't say best on best. The Russians were there.

[Don Hahn]

All right, all right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're still talking about the. The 1% of the NHL is on that ice. Yes, the 1%. Okay. And Connor McDavid's better than all of them. You could see. He's faster, he's strong. Like, for him to be able to pop with that kind of talent on the ice tells you just how good he is.

[Don Hahn]

That's what I was trying to say, Don. I was trying to say like when watching that game, just getting lost in the game, second period where Canada's felt like they were trying to take the game, that game could have been four one going into the third. The amount of quality scoring chance they had and the Americans especially, you know, Hellebeck was good. Americans just hanging on by a thread because that's just kind of what they, what you are when you're an underdog, where you're just holding on and you're just, you're not gonna go down. That to me was so compelling to watch because of the sheer will versus the sheer skill. Oh my God. Like, it was just so entertaining. It was so good to watch.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, a lot of fun. A lot of fun. All right. Tons of calls to get to 1-800-919-3776. So the binge will be at 5:30. Kendrick Perkins will be at 5 enn at 6. We're taking up until 7 o'. Clock. Having a lot of fun on a snowy Monday. Don Han and Rosenberg, ESPN New York

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[Caller]

Great to be here.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks, man.

[Caller]

The greatest. That was an awesome game. I'm not complaining as far. Jack Hughes nailed his statement about America. He's so proud to be American he wasn't being political. One thing that lists a little bit of a bad taste in my mouth. When the president called and he made some joke about, you know, the. I guess they have to invite the women to the White House too.

[Don Hahn]

They all laugh.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get.

[Caller]

They're all in the locker room, they're celebrating. It just seemed like a bad look and I wanted to get your guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it's only a bad look because that's the way somebody wanted to. Were we in the room to know what was said? Apparently Trump said I'll be impeached. Maybe they were laughing at that joke. Maybe they were just an awkward conversation. David, thank you for the phone call. Again, people cherry picking comments, people trying to get a reaction. They've been supportive. Jack's mom was involved with the women's game. Could we stop? Please stop.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, Don, Don, if you're gonna

[Peter Rosenberg]

call with it, don't call. Alright? Don't bother with it. But.

[Alan Hahn]

But these things did happen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We don't know what happened, Peter. No idea.

[Alan Hahn]

But they saw things that. You can't blame every human, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You cannot. So this is the conversation we're having. It comes out. The one who brought up.

[Alan Hahn]

If you don't want to have the conversation, why.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I don't want to have the conversation, Peter. For the conversation. I don't know why they laugh.

[Don Hahn]

But.

[Alan Hahn]

But my point is you can't make everybody out there bad when these things were brought into it. Don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By somebody that decided that tweet out that they laughed at the women having to go. You have no idea.

[Alan Hahn]

I didn't even.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We weren't in the room. I don't know why they laughed. We don't even know if they heard the conversation.

[Alan Hahn]

Peter, I get it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because we can't have nice things.

[Rich Eisen]

But.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you want us. You want to believe it, good on you. But that can't be the first thing that we have a conversation. It's not even 24 hours old and this is the conversation that people want to have. It's ridiculous.

[Alan Hahn]

Listen, that part is annoying. I hear you. Not being able to celebrate it. I hear you. It's annoying. But you cannot blame every viewer who may have been bothered by having the politics injected into it. It was in the locker room, for God's sake. When was the last time you remember that? It doesn't happen at every event. It was unusual. It was dragged into the locker room.

[Don Hahn]

President Carter called the.

[Alan Hahn]

That's a phone call. The Trump phone call, I think was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Honestly.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. President's call. When Olympic, when they won the gold.

[Don Hahn]

Rusioni was on the phone with him and he was. You know, the boys were.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that wasn't unusual to me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But do we know the way.

[Alan Hahn]

It's cash Patel shotgunning beers. That's unusual. The president.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Were they supposed to throw him out of the room? No.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know. I don't know what you do. I'm just saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that's the problem I have now. All of a sudden, now everybody gets pigeonholed. They all must be MAGA because Patel was in there. That's unfair. The fact that somebody tweeted out that the men laughed when Donald Trump suggested he's got to invite the women. Now the narrative is they laughed at the women being invited. We have no idea why they laughed. Trump said, I'll be impeached if I don't invite them. Maybe they laughed at that. Maybe they just. It was an awkward laugh. Maybe somebody said something behind. We don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

How would somebody know how to react?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because somebody wanted to mold it as the men who have been nothing but supportive. They were there when they won the gold medal. Jack's mom was a part of the team that they're all going to. Collectively don't think they want the women to be at the White House. Somebody molded it to be that way so some suckers out there believe it. Maybe they did laugh, Peter. But the fact that nobody's in the room to know. But that has to because that's what some people want to make it out to be. They have an agenda that the men are sexist and women shouldn't be in sports because that's what some of the right side thinks. So let's drag it over to the left or the right. Trying to drag it over to the right instead of just letting it be. Because this is what social media does.

[Don Hahn]

Thank you. Keep your fat hands off sports. Just stay out of it. Stop ruining a moment with whatever your agenda is. Either way. Either way, just shut your. You know about the. Shut up. And dribble thing. How about shut up and watch? How about that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it just felt like that was a. That was. Somebody wanted to make something out of it by that. They all laughed. Who was in the room, who said anything, who is. And had one awkward conversation about what the women did other than just everybody appreciating the gold medal that they won.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, let me just say this without having seen it, let me just say this. If you're on the phone with the President, with the entire world watching, cuz you just won this thing, the idea that these kids, like these guys would know you're on a speakerphone with the President, the idea that you're able to hear everything he's saying and respond perfectly when you're three sheets to the wind already, that's a bit much. The only thing I was defending, Don, is I wish that it hadn't gotten injected to anybody in the first place. I wish we didn't have actual administration people in the locker room. It would have made it a little easier to not have the whole thing get political if we didn't have the FBI director shotgunning beers. That is all I'm saying, would have been easier. Now I'm not blaming anyone. The team is the team. What are they going to do, say no?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. They can't say no. If it ever got out, if it ever got out that he wanted to get into the room and they forbade him to go into the room, how do you think that would have been perceived?

[Alan Hahn]

Not great.

[Don Hahn]

Not great. The story goes, I guess he plays hockey, he loves hockey. He's just been. Always been a supporter of it. So they're just kind of probably used to him being around for whatever reason, in whatever places he's. He pushed himself into it. They were like, yeah, you know, whatever. This guy again. Don, you've been in those rooms, you've been around it. Sometimes you don't realize you're there and you think everybody sees you and you really are just invisible. Like the people don't even realize you're there because they're doing their own thing. And then it's this guy over here. Like I, I'm with Peter in the fact that of course that. Why does that have to be the thing that's being recorded and shared? But we all know why. Because someone wanted that out there as well. Look, these are good old boys. Look who they're with. Like you, Don. You're right, Peter, you're right. That's why I'm just sitting there saying everybody Shut up, everybody. Like, let's just enjoy this game. Enjoy the moment and the significance of it for hockey in America, because it doesn't get enough attention, it doesn't get enough credit. And it is the one sport that has unified us in the past, and it should have unified us now.

[Alan Hahn]

And it's two years in a row,

[Peter Rosenberg]

by the way, that hockey.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Is the real sport now. You call it the fourth sport. Whatever we want to say had these huge international moments that people got really excited about between four nations. And this, it's like, it is really cool when you think about it. And it's funny. It also sort of messes up any of the theories people have about hockey's popularity. Sure seems like people can figure it out. When the games are big and there's international consequences, all of a sudden everyone can follow the puck. Everybody knows how icing works. Everyone can figure it out when the spot gets big enough. It's very odd.

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