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Don Legreca
Don, one day you're not gonna play football anymore. And if there's a God up above, it'll be soon.
Alan Hahn
Han, Huge. No, but big.
Don Legreca
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
And Rosenberg.
Unknown Speaker
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
Don Legreca
This isn't North Dakota. This is New York.
Peter Rosenberg
This is Don, Han and Rosenberg on 880, ESPN and the ESPN New York app.
Alan Hahn
Oh, yes. With Don Legreca and Peter Rosenberg. I'm Alan Hahn. It is a Friday, boys.
Don Legreca
Yes.
Alan Hahn
We've got lots to get into today. 8003776 is the number to get in line and get on the calls right now. How we doing?
Don Legreca
Good. It's Friday. It's rainy, but it's not terrible out.
Alan Hahn
I mean, at least it's Friday. That's what matter. How did lids go, Pete? How was that?
Unknown Speaker
Oh, like you dream about the lids in Times Square. It's. It's a beautiful new location. Some great listeners came out. Shout out to all the listeners who came through. You know, listen. This is a brand new lids flagship store. They're super excited. You know, not always an easy ask to get the local New Yorkers to come to Times Square.
Alan Hahn
Yes.
Unknown Speaker
So. So a big shout out to the ones that did. Very excited to see him. And I have. I hate to start the show with controversy.
Alan Hahn
Oh, boy.
Unknown Speaker
But I. I did get three hats. One hat was customized. And by the way, the customization really is awesome. I got. I got Charlie K. A customized Yankee.
Alan Hahn
Hat on by request.
Unknown Speaker
By request, of course. If you're wondering if anyone. Because Michael was told. I'm sure he could get a hat if you don. Do you think anyone, like, handled it to make sure that would happen?
Don Legreca
You tell me. Did anybody besides Michael ask you?
Unknown Speaker
No, I just. I just handled it literally myself with the people who ran the store. Like, there was no sort of, like, thing in place of, like, oh, my. I got it. Don't worry. Charlie's hats taken care of. And then there were two more hats. And I'm a little embarrassed to say what happened, but Maya got her first two baseball caps. One. And they're both personalized with her name on the side. One is the New York Yankees.
Don Legreca
Okay.
Unknown Speaker
And one is the New York Mets.
Don Legreca
What the f. Yeah.
Alan Hahn
So are you letting her choose? Yeah, like, whatever hat she touches first, that's her team for life.
Unknown Speaker
And then the. And then the other one you throw in the garbage. No, no, I just got her both because her wife wanted. I mean, my wife, her mother wanted both.
Don Legreca
So it's. You would like it. You would hope It'd be one of the two teams, right?
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Don Legreca
You don't want her being Uncle Don.
Alan Hahn
I don't want Uncle Don calling her a fraud.
Don Legreca
Listen, I'm going. I told you. Marco is seven years, two months. And he likes both the Mets and the Yankees. Consume how long you give it?
Alan Hahn
Seven years, man. Yeah.
Don Legreca
His eighth birthday.
Alan Hahn
When's the eighth birthday? Now. When is this?
Don Legreca
It will be in 10 months. December on December 5th. On December 5th of 2025, the year of our Lord, he will have to make a decision on what team he is going to back and whatever team it is, I'll be fine.
Alan Hahn
You will.
Don Legreca
He's going to make. I. I made my decision by age.
Alan Hahn
I will spoil this child. I will regale him with Yankees like crazy.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Michael's already offered Mets and I almost disowned him.
Don Legreca
And that's why I think this season is big in the Legreca household because I think how these two teams play in 2025 may ultimately determine his life course.
Unknown Speaker
And now you also have a. Now you also have a straight up even battle when it comes to superstar.
Don Legreca
Yeah, exactly.
Unknown Speaker
Let's not get into the weeds on who might, you know, judges. He's slightly better when it comes to being a superstar. You got Judge and Soto going heads up as a list superstar. So you know what? It's not just the legreca. There'll probably be a lot of households having to make decisions this year or just continued fraudulence, which is what I'm expecting from my daughter.
Don Legreca
Yeah, this could be. This is as I first. I did shows years ago when the Nets moved to Brooklyn and I did some summer shows with Alan and we did a whole, you know, plant your flag. We were taking phone calls. All right. Plant your flag, Brooklyn. Who you going for, Nets or Knicks? Plant your flag. That's a plant your flag moment for Marco. What are you doing? Because he celebrated every Mets win in the postseason the way he did to the Yankees, the Lindor grand slam against the Phillies all he loved it all because he's really just these opie's. And it's a young mind being molded and I'm letting it happen. But at some point, it's not like you're 25. All right? You know, Blanker, get off the pot, Marco. I'm saying because by 8, I already had my allegiance, but my dad's stories were all around that same age. I think eight is a. Is a healthy age.
Alan Hahn
About. Right. So I'll do quick backstory for me because again, as you Know, my whole family, Mets fans, Rangers fans. All right, so where did I go wrong? How did I become the black sheep? The first time around for me was it was basically Chris Chambliss. Now I was 5, 6. And so that happens. Then, of course, Reggie Jackson. Now I'm hooked. That got me. That's it. And the Mets were bad at that.
Don Legreca
The Mets were awful.
Alan Hahn
They were bad. So I was in. I'm all in. That's 1. 79. Rangers and Islanders played each other in the playoffs. The Islanders won the President's Trophy that. Yeah. That year.
Don Legreca
And then John Davidson stoned and John.
Alan Hahn
Davidson played out of his mind. My. My parents are celebrating, and I'm sitting there again at 79. I'm 8 years old, and I say, why are we celebrating this? Like, we're from Long island. And my parents are like, well, we're from the city. And so we were always Rangers fans and that's our team. And I said, well, I. I'm rooting for that team from now on. That worked out pretty well because they won the next four cups. But. But that. That's. Those were things. I came to a decision. At that point in life, Marco is going to have to make that point in life. This is his. His coming of age is coming in December. We're going to have two cakes. He's going to choose which one he wants.
Don Legreca
Now, here's a big question for Peter.
Unknown Speaker
All right?
Don Legreca
Now, for Marco, it's not going to be a third choice. It's one or the other because he's established himself as a big sports fan, big baseball fan, but we don't know where Maya's going. So, like, are you rooting for Mets, Yankees or. I'm good, you know, because there's benefits to I'm good.
Unknown Speaker
There's benefits to I'm good, and there's benefits to both teams. Right? Right.
Don Legreca
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Like, I could. I could spend the entire show breaking down this thought process, because the team that my kids choose root for is a big deal to me. The only requirement that's being made in this household, and this has been made clear, and Natalie has been forced to accept it. And thankfully, Jayden Daniels made it easier. The only gauntlet that was laid down. This is a commander's house, period. That is it. My wife loves telling the story about how the only time in her life. Life that she got drank drunk off a beer was when the Giants won the Super bowl in 2007 because she was out partying in college. Whatever it was, she's not a Real Giants fan. She's not. So I just said, just to be clear, that I'm not giving that up.
Alan Hahn
Okay?
Unknown Speaker
Every other team, I'm letting my daughter choose. I'm not putting Penguins or Celtics on my New York child. I'm not doing that. So it's going to be up to her to choose. And the Yankees and Mets, listen, there's an everyday fan, regular guy. I have more of a connection to the Mets. I have. I have a lot of friends who love the Mets. I. There's an underdog feel that makes me like the Mets. At the same time, why would I want to lead her away from a history of greatness? And plus, we got Unkey Mike. You know, the same man who bought her Baby Bjorn is the guy who calls the games. She'd have us. I should have an invite to the booth. Like, why would I run away from that? So there's a lot. There's a lot of pros and cons, guys.
Alan Hahn
I love it. And I love the fact that you are only taking. Making one team the standard because you just changed. Now you just added to your gift or to her gift. Because I was hesitant about something that I wanted to give her because I wasn't sure it'd be appropriate. Now get it. Now forget it. Oh, we're all.
Unknown Speaker
As long as it's not a Cowboys hat or an Eagles jersey.
Alan Hahn
No, no, no, no, no.
Unknown Speaker
The only thing, I'm laying the law. I'm only laying the law down on football. I told my. Because my wife's a true New Yorker.
Alan Hahn
Whatever else she wants, she literally. It's in her name, Ms. Hat.
Don Legreca
This is so. This is. I'm surprised Alan's even taking this. I find this very humorous because as she starts to get older, you're. You're going to cave on everything. I, you know, difficult it is to say no to Jalen. Like, she starts with those, those baby blue eyes looking at me. And so she's going to come home one day and she's going to say, daddy, my friends are all going to a Giants game. Can I go with them? And you're like, no, we're at commander's house. We're going to stay home and watch the commanders or dad, please, I got a chance to go to the Giant game with my friends and there's going to be that father daughter connection. You go, okay, honey. And she's going to come back with all this giant swag or jet swag or whatever, and you're going to cave. I'm telling you, the first thing I would say, do you realize I would. When we went into the icu, But Shoes and warned me of this because he has daughters. And she opened her eyes and looked at me. If she was able to speak at birth, minutes old and said, I want a pony, I would have taken to the streets and dragged the pony through the hospital to get her that pony. There is never gonna be any moment at all where you're gonna say, you have to be a commander's fan. And she bats those eyes.
Alan Hahn
Forget it. He's right. He's.
Don Legreca
Listen, play your reindeer games like you have some sort of mystical power no other father of a daughter has until. Let's reconvene in a few years and see where we're at.
Unknown Speaker
Listen, all I got to do is keep dressing her up in the clothes and then pray that Jaden Daniels turns out to be the real deal. If that happens, I should be fine.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, that part is true, though, Don. If he's consistent at the start, then I think everything will be all right.
Unknown Speaker
And if they win a Super bowl.
Don Legreca
Which I never had any Yankee garb on whatsoever, it was all Met stuff. Mets onesies. The first ever baseball the game went to was a Met game. Met hats, all of it. You know, watching Met games. But I never forced it. I didn't like. I never. I've never forced anything on it, but I'm a Met fan. I wasn't gonna buy Yankee stuff. And then he started going to school, and his friend. His best friend's a Yankee fan.
Alan Hahn
And one day he just came home and said, all rise.
Don Legreca
He loves Giants, but he also loves Lindor.
Alan Hahn
Right?
Don Legreca
He's. He's going through the. You got to let him go through the process, Peter.
Unknown Speaker
Now, you know what happened once the show ended and he sat through a Yankeeography. The. The Paul O'Neill Yankeeography. And that's what changed. That's my theory.
Alan Hahn
That's what did it.
Don Legreca
Paul saying during that day, Yankeeography. Peter, I just hear to talk to.
Unknown Speaker
You guys about my baseball career.
Alan Hahn
Me, Paul O'Neill, 800-919-3776. Sam in Brooklyn has an interesting story. Sam.
Sam
What's up, guys? Hey, Don. This is Sam from the. From your hockey podcast.
Don Legreca
Oh, hey, Sam. How you doing?
Sam
Yeah, yeah. What's going on?
Don Legreca
All right.
Sam
Talking a little baseball, though. I'm a big, big thank you. Thank you for remembering. I'm a big Mets fan. And we were at Dick's Sporting Goods, My wife and my daughter and I. She was three at the time, and my wife Thought it'd be cute for her to put a Yankee hat on my daughter and walk over to me and show me that she's got the hat on. And as. As adorable as she was with the. With the baseball cap on, I smacked the hat off her head and told.
Unknown Speaker
Her to take a bath because I.
Sam
Don'T want that thing on her head. That's done.
Alan Hahn
She was three.
Felicia
Three.
Sam
I have video of it, too. I could send it to you guys. I have a clip.
Alan Hahn
Please post that video. Yeah, send that. Send video to us.
Don Legreca
Do yourself a favor and delete that.
Alan Hahn
No, no, no.
Don Legreca
Because I don't want anything to happen.
Sam
Never, never, never. That's. That. That's the allegiance. And let me tell you, when I. When I was a kid, I was a Yankee fan because of my brother. So my brother, like, you know, like, he's a big Yankee fan. So. So I was all about, like you said, Alan, Chris Chambliss, Reggie Jackson. I love those guys. Chicken Stanley. I'll even give you a Chicken Stanley. All right, Chicken Stanley. Anyway, Fred. But you know what? It was like, I got to the point where when the Yankees started fading, and then when the Mets traded for Keith Hernandez, bang, Switched allegiance. And I've been with the Mets.
Alan Hahn
I don't.
Don Legreca
I don't think Sam is any position to be smacking hats off anybody.
Alan Hahn
Well, hang on a second.
Don Legreca
I love you, man.
Alan Hahn
Hang on a second.
Don Legreca
There's a lot going on here, and none of it's good.
Alan Hahn
You switched allegiances. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. There's so much more now to this story than just child abuse. This goes way beyond child abuse. Hang on a second. You went from Chris Chambers, you had me at. You had me at Chris Chandler's and the whole Reggie's. Three home runs, the captain, that was just the Thurman Munson, all of it. Bucky Dent, everything. And you just went to like. Well, then once Hernandez showed up. Come on, man. Keith Hernandez shows up and that's it. You just. Like your poor wife was a name, right?
Sam
He was the man.
Alan Hahn
That's what it took. Well, I'll tell you what.
Sam
That was it.
Alan Hahn
That was the wrong woman walks by you, your poor wife, man, she's gonna be like, oh, he gone that easy, huh, man? That easy.
Don Legreca
And I appreciate all that you've done for game misconduct in this show, man.
Unknown Speaker
But, oh, man, this was a very.
Don Legreca
Difficult phone.
Sam
You guys, man, you are.
Alan Hahn
You probably should have kept that 75.
Unknown Speaker
You kept it 63.
Alan Hahn
63 would have been good. Thank you, Sam.
Unknown Speaker
Two.
Don Legreca
Oh, my. Jeez.
Unknown Speaker
Did he just switch allegiances?
Alan Hahn
Mid-80s with Keith Hernandez?
Don Legreca
Fraud.
Alan Hahn
Yes.
Unknown Speaker
After he said that he smacked a hat off his child.
Alan Hahn
Well, remember she had a Yankees hat on. So he was revealing himself as a Mets fan. Then he said he was a Yankees fan because of his brother. And now I'm trying to figure out the story. And then when he said, but when Keith Hernandez showed up, oh my God, that's what did it.
Don Legreca
And now he's so, he's so met.
Alan Hahn
I mean Keith's handsome, so I, I.
Don Legreca
Can understand the hat off the three year old. I thought, I thought he was gonna say there. The infant didn't know that at three they're conscious of what's going on.
Alan Hahn
That's pretty aware. Well, that's, that's one way to get her to never put it on again.
Don Legreca
Becoming a cop, right, like that's just a weird, that's a weird thing that he went from a Yankee fan to such a Met fan that he's knocking the Yankee hat off his three year old daughter.
Alan Hahn
That's aggressive.
Don Legreca
Oh my God.
Unknown Speaker
It's, it's troubling to say the least.
Don Legreca
No, but listen, I. Listen. I love the fact he listens to the podcast. No, listen, he's one of the best listeners we have. But that was, that phone call was rough, Peter.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, that was. That's a way to start. We'll continue with your calls, of course, again, 800-919-3776. But on the baseball side of things, USA Today, Bob Nightingale, we respect him, right?
Don Legreca
Sure.
Alan Hahn
In the know he had a very interesting, the way he phrased it, I thought really caught my attention. So in his story today, uh, somehow eight days remain till pitchers and catches amazingly. Right? Eight days, pitchers and catchers already. Um, but he said all star first baseman Pete Alonso, who badly wants to return to the New York Mets while the club insists they want him back to, must decide whether he's going to swallow his pride and take the Mets three year offer of about $70 million. And now there's a lot of speculation about teams that he has been in touch with. Reportedly whether it's the Blue Jays, which at one point sounded hot and heavy. That's kind of gotten quiet. The San Francisco Giants talked to him, the Angels at one point, now the Cincinnati Reds might be interested, but nothing ever comes of it. So either it's Scott Boris just kind of creating a market that isn't there, or it's Pete Alonso hearing each team going like, yeah, I'd rather still just play for The Mets, I'd rather just do that. And now he's in a situation, guys, that I think if he ends up staying with the Mets, it's against what Boris wanted. And he might actually, actually have to overrule Boris and get what he wants and stay with the Mets for less money, of course.
Don Legreca
But again, he turned down that, that $22 million a year offer, you know, so if you wanted to be a Met so bad, I guess he felt like he had other options. So, like, you have to make a decision. I think when you're a free agent, what's more important, the money or where you want to be? And let's not forget that the agent works for the player, not the other way around.
Alan Hahn
That's right.
Don Legreca
So you go to Scott Boers and say, listen, do what you got to do. Get me as much money as you can, but at the end of the day, I'm signing with the Mets. So use whatever you got to do. Talk to other teams, try to get the offer up, but at the end of the day, I'm staying with the Mets. And if Scott's got a problem with that, then you let him go and you bring in another agent that'll accommodate you. So. And Pete probably was told by Boris, I can get you more than the 22 a year. And he hasn't been able to do it.
Unknown Speaker
So.
Don Legreca
And you remember that whole rumor where it was that, that exclusive three year offer that was only to the Mets, I mean, that was probably Alonzo saying, get something done. But the Mets aren't biting. Nobody else is biting. And just another example how the Mets have played this perfectly. Because what's going to end up happening, Allen, is he's going to come back and probably go, is that $22 million offer still on the table? You know, the Mets are going to say no. It's, that's, that was yesterday and now today it's 18, you know, so the Mets are going to end up getting him for a lot cheaper than I think they even thought they might get him for. And will somebody else swoop in? Is he going to cut off his nose despite his face and sign someplace he doesn't want to just because the dollars are slightly better? Would that make sense? Be a red for $23 million a year because you got more than what the Mets offered? Is that the ball game you want to play so Boris can stick out his chest? See, I got you more.
Alan Hahn
Right, right.
Unknown Speaker
I hate this situation for Pete. I hate it. Because you know where you want to be. Your Agent. And this, this is, this is all about agents attitudes. An agent's. An agent's goal should be to please their client. And if the client wants to be in New York, they should be doing everything possible to make sure they end up in New York. But guys, we both know that not every agent operates the same way. They have, they have egos, they have things they want to do, things they want to accomplish. And you just have to hope in the case of Pete Alonso, that Boris is really going to do right by him to make sure he gets what he wants. Because I don't know, do we know Boris is in love with the idea of him being in New York.
Alan Hahn
And you heard the way Steve Cohen talked about the negotiations. He actually said, now remember, it's the same agent that the negotiations with Alonzo. What was the word that he used? Was it annoying or was it arduous? He was. You. He used a specific word to describe. Just exhausting was the word he used. Exhausting. Experience, negotiate. You just signed a guy to the largest contract in the history of the sport. And that wasn't as exhausting. Remember that was going back and forth that whole weekend. Remember the Soto stuff? That wasn't as exhausting as this. What does that tell you? Like the experience of dealing with Boris in this situation? Do they want him back? I think they do, but they want him back on their terms, their price, and the terms being short term. Because, Don, as you've alluded to many times, the Vlad Guerrero thing is still very much out there and a lot of people believe it. Now, Joel Sherman, who is also another guy, it's very well plugged in, was on talking to Michael K today and when asked about Alonzo's market and what it looks like, he said this.
Joel Sherman
Well, I think that there's very limited places for him to go and I would say there's zero places for him to go for what he perceived his value might be. When this process began. There is nothing that the modern front office pretty much dislikes more than a right hand hitting first baseman in their 30s with limited or no base running, defense, athletic advantages. It's just their model.
Felicia
Hate it.
Joel Sherman
This is how these front offices who very much work in lockstep, see the world. If Pete Alonzo was born in the 70s or early 80s, he'd be fine. But that's not how this marketplace sees him. It's all began to work against him. And I think, you know, now he's like batting his eyes at the Mets again because in a way it's A place to go. It's a place of comfort, but it's also a little bit faith safe.
Don Legreca
Right.
Joel Sherman
Like at the end of the day, you go back there and you could do the pledge. Well, I never wanted to leave. I had offers, other places, I turned down whatever.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. You say I took less money to stay here, knowing that that's how the fans will. You'll win. The fans right in your pocket. They already. He knows the fan base wants him back. There's enough passion there. All you got to do is read every Mets blog there is. But if he also comes back at a low number, it's not like the fans are going to mock it. They're going to almost think he's a superhero for doing that.
Don Legreca
Yeah. And even if they had were away about it, once he goes out there and starts playing, it's. It's all forgotten at that point. But Scott Boris, I listen, he's a hell of an agent, or at least he was. All right? And we've had him on the show. Remember Peter, he came on during COVID He's always been very good to the. The show. So this is no judge on his character, the type of person he is. But his ship has sailed. All right? He has outlived his usefulness because he used to have information. He used to have the analytics that nobody else had. And he was able to convince some of these dimwitted owners, quite frankly. Why you had to sign somebody that you didn't even really knew you wanted to have. Well, that's, that's over now. All of these teams work with the same analytics. They don't. You have a book on a guy, they have 10 books on the guy. You're not fooling anybody anymore, Scott. The only reason that you still exist is because you can get top dollar for the Sotos of the world. All right? But for guys like Pete Alonso, it was a mistake signing with Boris. Alonso's not that kind of player. God love him. He's not judge, he's not Soto. He's not an elite player. He's a very good player. He's not an elite player. And guys that aren't elite players don't get paid under Boris. They all have to say Bellinger had to sign a one year contract. Snell. A one year Snell.
Unknown Speaker
What?
Don Legreca
A couple of Cy Youngs, but still could not get the big time contract. He. So that was a mistake. That was.
Alan Hahn
Montgomery also called him out last year.
Don Legreca
Absolutely. So. So it was a mistake going with Boris. And the other mistake was he bet on himself and he lost. Let's face it, we're not having this conversation. If he hit 56 home runs this year. Instead, he had one of his worst years of his career on his walk year. And that really hurt him getting the numbers that he was looking for. So now he's got his hat in his hand. But what do the Mets do, guys? Because I think they've got their eyes on Vlad Guerrero.
Alan Hahn
Well, I have an idea of what they can do, how it could could actually work out for everybody. And we'll discuss that on the other side.
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Unknown Speaker
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Unknown Speaker
You are. You are. I'm trying to.
Alan Hahn
Adorable.
Unknown Speaker
You could hear it?
Alan Hahn
Yes. It was audible. It was beautiful. Wait, quiet. Oh, there she is. Maya.
Don Legreca
Maya.
Unknown Speaker
That's your radio debut, Maya.
Alan Hahn
That's it. That's the debut of my own. I love it. The first word she had to say was talking About Pete Alonso.
Don Legreca
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
How did the Mets feel about Pete Alonso? I want to pay off what I said, though. Don, you and I have talked about this separately. Here's how they get around the idea of being landlocked with Alonzo. If they do end up, if he, if he agrees to something that is a multi year deal deal, he wants to come back, you know, respectfully, you're not going to give him a one year, he's not going to do qualifier. Right. You take the, you take like a two year, maybe three with an option for the team, something like that. And I know there were rumors that they were looking for bonuses if they opt out, so he gets some money in his pocket out the door, which is, that's absurd. But you could do something along the lines of a two, a three year deal with a, an opt out after two to protect the Mets in case they do pursue Vlad Guerrero like everybody expects them to. You move them the dh. Now, I understand Jesse Winker is kind of technically the DH right now. Right? Because you got, you got a lot of, you know, the outfield's certainly full, but that's, that's your way out. If next year, like so you haven't played first base for one more year and the next year you're like, well, we're stuck in them for one more year. You slide in the DH and you figure it out. He certainly can hit. That's not a question. Having a power bat in your lineup is still valuable, even if. So isn't that, isn't that your solution in case there's, you don't feel like, well, we can't sign Vlad now because this guy's in the way.
Don Legreca
Yeah, that's the thing. You don't want to landlock first base. But you bring up a good point. He's going to be 31 years old at the start of next season. So, all right, all of 20, 25, he's your first baseman. Now you move in a 31 year old to DH and then you signed Vlad Guerrero, who I think is be 27 at that point.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Don Legreca
Or 26 at that point. And then he becomes your first baseman. And if for some reason Vlad re signs with Toronto or you can't land them for whatever reason, well then, Alonzo, it's not the end of the world to then have him be your first baseman. 26 and beyond. Not ideal, but you'd be getting him at a pretty think decent price by that time. That's probably what you're looking at. But you still want to get him for the price you want.
Alan Hahn
Yes.
Don Legreca
You don't want to overpay for it. They made that very clear. So I guess that now there are rumors in Toronto that they're on the verge of re signing Vlad. That could also just be a smoke screen eyewash of just hey, we're making every attempt to try to get him. Scherzer just signed there. So I don't think it's a question of them not having the money to do it. But does Vlad want to lock himself in Toronto when he knows he can come back into the States and get a chance to play in New York? And so I'm a little dubious about that, but it can happen. So I think the price is going to come down to the point where I think the Mets will be able to retain him. And I think that option you bring up of in his second year of the contract, he becomes a DH. Now you hate the landlocked DH2 because you know Lindor is going to get older during the course of his contract. You said winker. But you don't play every day in baseball anymore. And he can still play first base. And if you do get Vlad, he can, he can be your DH for a little bit too. Like so there's ways to finagle where he can still play first base. He just won't do it full time. And between days off and all that, you could probably work other guys into the DH position too so they don't have to be on the field.
Alan Hahn
Who's rep. Who represents. Is, is Vlad represented by Boris too?
Don Legreca
That I don't know.
Alan Hahn
I guess because I didn't look that up.
Don Legreca
I don't think so, but I don't know for a fact.
Alan Hahn
Here's why. Like again, Toronto as we know has been desperate, right? They, they, they've been wanting to sign everybody and nobody will sign with them. I mean they just threw a bunch of money at Scherzer. And if they are trying to get Vlad to stay because they're desperate to have stars and to be, you know, I can't say a contender but just relevant, right, that they might give Vlad the money he wants or maybe have to give him more than he wants, they have plenty of money up there. They're not broke.
Don Legreca
Well, they just, they just signed a 40 year old pitcher, Max Scherzer, to a $15 million contract.
Alan Hahn
That shows you how desperate they are. That's my point. So I think if you're the Mets, you're watching that. And if, and if you're, if you represent Vlad, obviously if it's Boris, you're going to get as much money out of the, the, I said, almost said Raptors, the Blue Jays as you can because you're going to tell them, look, he's going to walk, he really doesn't want to be here. And then you just keep raising the number until it's like, all right, I guess he wants to be here because that's a really nice number that we, we probably wouldn't get on the open market. So if they are willing to overpay, grossly overpay to keep their 25 year old superstar, then he stays and then you're. The Met's going, all right, well, that option's off the table. So short term, we've got Pete Alonzo. Did she just sneeze?
Don Legreca
She just sneezed.
Alan Hahn
That's adorable.
Unknown Speaker
It's an adorable.
Alan Hahn
By the way, Rose, the cutest sneeze ever.
Unknown Speaker
What, what, what, what happened to Toronto, man? Like two years ago it was the land of milk and honey.
Alan Hahn
I thought they were on that, right? They were that team that you thought, nobody wants to play this team, and now it all fell apart.
Don Legreca
It's tough to listen, Toronto's a great market and Alan will tell you, oh, I love it. Even beyond hockey, they love the Raptors, they love the Blue Jays, they support.
Alan Hahn
Their, their team, Support their team.
Don Legreca
But you know, when you're not winning, you're kind of in obscurity and they haven't won. You know, they were, they were on the verge and when they were there, they were getting everybody. But now it's tough because you're in the division with the Yankees, the up and coming Orioles. And so the feeling isn't that you're not that team that's in contention like everybody else. And do you really want to be stuck on a 500 team playing in Toronto where, you know, you're the set, you're always going to be the second team. It's always going to be the Leafs and everybody else up there. You know, I think it's a sexy market because they've got, every baseball fan probably loves the Blue Jays up there because they've got no competition. I've told you, I'll, I'll watch Euler games or listen to an oiler game on SiriusXM and they're advertising Blue Jay tickets like they have the whole country there. But it's still its candidates. It's why the Grizzlies didn't make it in Vancouver. Vancouver's an amazing city, but you get.
Unknown Speaker
These American born players, no one likes the customs piece.
Don Legreca
Well, there's a lot there, you know. And also I got to see how it we. Alan, you probably would know better than me. Obviously they get paid in American money up there but when they do stuff on the side, the exchange, you know, there's, there's the exchange rate which isn't great too. So the money that you make marketing wise up there isn't as lucrative.
Alan Hahn
There's a lot of little differences.
Don Legreca
There's a lot of taxes are very bad there too. So listen, it's a great place to win.
Alan Hahn
Who was the, was Springer the last guy? Right? It was he the last one that they got. It was, was Springer fairly coveted?
Don Legreca
Oh yeah.
Alan Hahn
Remind me like when they got him. That was. Because what Peter said is a great question. Like what happened there? Because it did feel like they were like the IT team. You know, Bichette looked like this kid was going to be a stud.
Unknown Speaker
And obviously all the second generation stars, they had three of them that yes.
Alan Hahn
Everyone was so stoked about Biggio, right. And but when Springer went there, that was sort of a sign. Like wow, okay. They just brought in a guy who's one who's got some experience, that that team was young, they needed something, something like that. And then it just never stuck.
Don Legreca
And I think if they, if they were really good again and one, I think it could still be attractive again. But you're just stuck in that division. Like where do you expect them to go? Yankees aren't going anywhere. Orioles are a good young team. You know, every one, it seems like every few years the Red Sox pop back up again. You know, when they decide all of a sudden they want to spend some money.
Unknown Speaker
Sometimes in the same year that you've given up on them, they pop up.
Alan Hahn
Right.
Don Legreca
So it's, it's a really, it's a really tough market. So that I would think that they have every intention of signing with just Vlad knowing he's got, he's a good young player, has got options to make money anywhere. Does he want to be up there?
Alan Hahn
They'll have to overpay him to keep him. That's what I think. And that's something that you have to watch here. If that does happen. 800-919-3776 when we started the show, as you probably have already heard that adorable sneeze, Peter has his daughter Maya on his lap while doing the show, which we love, we already heard from her. But we opened the show with the fact that Peter was at Lids doing an event. And he had. He bought her a Mets and Yankees hat. And it's almost like decision at some point in her life that she will make. So we were all talking about how we became fans of whatever we became. And Felicia in Mississippi wants to share her story. Felicia.
Felicia
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.
Unknown Speaker
Thanks, Felicia.
Felicia
So I'm a huge hockey fan. Sometimes I call in and talk Islanders. I'm a big Islanders fan because of my dad.
Alan Hahn
Let's go.
Felicia
Yes. But when my dad was deployed, he's Navy, he. I would stay with my grandparents. My grandmother is huge hockey fan, Rangers fan. And I was with. I was staying with them and from 94 to like mid 95.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, boy.
Felicia
I was 4 years old in 94. So I really don't remember it, but there's a. She has pictures of me. She's dressing me up in all sorts of Rangers gear, sitting at home with. When my dad came home, just really, really, really wanted me to be a Rangers fan. And apparently I don't remember it, but I did kind of root for them with her when I was real young. But then once I started, came of age and really understood, I was like, no, blue and orange, baby.
Alan Hahn
That's what I'm talking about. So what was it? Was it like Yashin and Pekka and Osgood, did that. Did that get you back on track with the Islanders? What was it?
Felicia
So I think it really is. I'm incredibly close with my dad, so I root for all the same teams as him. So we're Yankees, Jets, Islanders. Not a really big basketball fan, but I guess we'd be Knicks fans. But I think it was just that we as. As I got older and Senate. He's a single parent and I'm an only child, so I was always with him and I just wanted to bond the bond with him really. But Pekka was my favorite player growing up as a kid. Like, I loved Pekka.
Alan Hahn
I love that.
Unknown Speaker
So.
Alan Hahn
So it wasn't Rick though. Wasn't Rick DiPietro though. That wasn't it.
Felicia
Well, actually, it's funny. I love Rick. I have signed Rick D. Pietro jersey and I went through cancer treatment a few years ago and Rick was kind enough to send me a signed assigned picture with a little note on it. And actually the whole Islanders team was really cool. King Eric shouted me out on the radio during one of the games. I don't think it was on the hockey, one of the hockey fights, cancer things. So hockey is just the best for fans. It's just my favorite sport.
Don Legreca
How are you Doing with a bunch of.
Alan Hahn
I love this story.
Don Legreca
How are you doing with the cancer now?
Felicia
Oh, I'm now down to just annual appointments. I switch to from every six months. Last year was my last every six month checkup. Now I'm down to just annual, which I'll probably do for the rest of my life. But no signs of anything. My last PET scan was completely clear.
Don Legreca
Awesome.
Alan Hahn
That's fantastic.
Felicia
But, yeah, and I've turned on a bunch of people here in Mississippi onto hockey, so I've recruited a few Islanders fans. I won't say they're their real true fans, but I brought a few friends when they come to Nashville. We try to go every year. I just can't. I can't stand the national. Fans are so uneducated. And I'm not this. So I make sure my friend.
Unknown Speaker
We're judging. I love fan judging. I'm into it.
Alan Hahn
Felicia, do you get back to New York much? Do you get to come back to New York at all?
Felicia
So most of my family's in New Jersey. They're actually in Butler. Don and I have had a conversation about this, like, a long time ago, but I have family. I have family in Southold and a great, great aunt in Astoria. So she's. She's in her 90s, so we brought up to see her.
Alan Hahn
Here's what we're going to do.
Felicia
Not as often.
Alan Hahn
Well, if the next time you're coming up to New York for whatever reason and as long as it's in season, you got to tell me ahead of time. And we got to get you at ubs.
Don Legreca
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
And I know John Ledecky would love to meet you.
Unknown Speaker
We will get them to roll out the red carpet.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, yeah. No, we're doing this.
Don Legreca
Sweet. And swag, that's where. That's where you need.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, you got to get the swag bag. We're giving you the full treatment.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. You've got to let us know so we can set this up for you.
Felicia
That'd be absolutely awesome. I'm planning to come to my cousin's wedding. She's getting. She's on the island. She's getting married next February. So we're hoping while I'm there that the Islanders are in town. Like, while during her wedding. I'll be staying at her house. So she's not far from UBS. Like 15 minutes.
Alan Hahn
That's great.
Unknown Speaker
Well, listen, if you. If you decide before next February that you want to make a trip just for it, let us know. Give us a couple game options and let us Find something for you.
Don Legreca
It's not that far.
Felicia
Okay.
Alan Hahn
Awesome.
Don Legreca
It's a quick flight.
Alan Hahn
Thanks for the call, Felicia.
Felicia
Thanks a lot, guys.
Alan Hahn
You got it. I mean, that's. This is. That's done.
Don Legreca
Done.
Alan Hahn
How about Rick, by the way? Shout out to Rick DiPietro. Right? Sending the photo, little note, you know, it was a nice note. Whatever. It was a personal note. Like, that's what you do. That's exactly the right thing to do.
Unknown Speaker
He plays a great heel, but he's a great guy.
Alan Hahn
He does the right things at the right time. That's all you need to know.
Peter Rosenberg
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Unknown Speaker
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
Peter Rosenberg
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Alan Hahn
Speaking of Slick Rick. All right. Superbox Bonanza 6, everybody. Each qualifier will take home an ESPN prize pack. Have a chance at one of 10 Superbox prizes, including Ninja Air Fryer, Solo Stove. Why are you. You're singing Monto. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Please don't. Don't do it.
Alan Hahn
Once upon a time, not long ago, when people wore pajamas and live life slow. Like that's what we're singing here. Yeah, but this is how we do it.
Unknown Speaker
Hold on. You're both.
Alan Hahn
Hold on.
Unknown Speaker
You're both right, though. You're both right.
Alan Hahn
You definitely are.
Unknown Speaker
Because it was. That was actually, I'm pretty sure, the instrumental to Montel Jordan.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, it was.
Unknown Speaker
But it's a shame that Don would be more likely to think of Montel Jordan. That in and of itself is a problem.
Alan Hahn
Hurtful.
Don Legreca
What did I do?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, see, he doesn't even know.
Don Legreca
I don't know.
Alan Hahn
You carved into what I had started to build up about you as a guy who has real depth when it comes to music, and you're ruined.
Unknown Speaker
You're spitting in space.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. The Jenga Tower. You pulled the wrong block out right now, and it's a little. It's starting to wobble, though.
Don Legreca
It's not. That's not my wheelhouse. I. I. Do you know.
Unknown Speaker
Do you know. Do you know Children's Story by Slick Rick?
Alan Hahn
It's so good.
Don Legreca
Yeah, maybe I've heard it. Maybe you have.
Unknown Speaker
It's one of the greatest rap records.
Don Legreca
Come a few bars for me. That was it.
Unknown Speaker
It was this instrumental you just heard, except Montel Jordan bastardized it into this Is How We Do It.
Alan Hahn
And I also gave you one of.
Unknown Speaker
The cheapest songs ever made.
Alan Hahn
Yes. I gave you the opening bars. Once upon a time, not long ago, when people wore Pajamas.
Unknown Speaker
When all was starting, justice stood and people too. Good.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
You know, it doesn't sound familiar.
Don Legreca
I'm not. No.
Alan Hahn
So, by the way, do you guys still wear pajamas?
Don Legreca
No.
Alan Hahn
Like, remember when people used to wear pajamas? Like, you know, like Mike Brady, like Peter? Do you wear pajamas?
Unknown Speaker
I do not. I have. I have. The most I've ever had was, like, pajama bottoms.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Like.
Unknown Speaker
The comfortable pants.
Don Legreca
During Christmas, I might wear something like Christmasy.
Unknown Speaker
Of course, Don loves wearing pajamas. To a live event.
Don Legreca
Right? To a live event. That's a different story. No, my day is. Is that, you know, the day's not over until you take your pants off. Then I put like, gym shorts and a T shirt that. Those are my. That's what the kids think is my pajamas. And there you go. Then I. Then I go into my underwear, leave the shirt on, and then go to bed.
Alan Hahn
But there was a time, in a world, there was a time where people literally wore pajamas. Like, pajamas. You wore them like that was a thing. Sometimes you even put a robe on.
Don Legreca
But by the way, you had a sleeping cap on.
Unknown Speaker
Hold on. So real, real quick, real quick. So, Alan, two things.
Alan Hahn
Yes.
Unknown Speaker
Number one, you're. You're tapping into, and I've never thought about it, what makes Slick Rick such an incredible writer is that he literally says, once upon a time, not long ago, when people wore pajamas, he used that. He used that as the standard. And if I recall, Don in the video, the person they show wearing pajamas is wearing the sleeping cap, too.
Alan Hahn
It's the whole thing that is true, accurate. We have some breaking news for you. We're going to get into it momentarily. I did have to finish this first, so just stay tuned in a moment for the breaking news. But the Superbox prizes, as I mentioned, Ninja air fryer, solo stove, Ray Ban, Meta wayfarers, and more. Since we were talking about Rick DiPietro, call number 39 right now at 88987, ESPN 8 at 8. 987 ESPN. Just select the box for the big game with a chance to win 250 in a first and third game quarters, 500 at halftime, and a final score payout of $1,000. It's all brought to you by Teller Mardu Irish Whiskey Slowman Security and Security, Dodge Shop 24.7@securitydodge.com during their President's Day sales event. Predictable. It was. It's a definitely interesting one. It's something, I think in our group chat we were discussing earlier today. The jets, according to Rich Samini, have an agreement with Tanner Angstrand to be their offensive coordinator. So it's been reported in other places as well. And Smee making sure to credit that, but he's got it as well confirming it. Angstrand, for those who don't know, was with the Detroit Lions. So of course there's connection to Aaron Glenn. He worked with Ben Johnson under Ben Johnson. I think he was the passing game coordinator. Ben Johnson as the oc. So there is connection there as well. And I believe he goes back even to college days where he knows Darren Mugi, the new general manager. So a lot of connections to this hire. So Angstrand will be the jets offensive coordinator. That answer now we do have. We'll discuss that and more coming up in the 4 o'clock hour. There's a lot of football to get to. Your calls to get to as well. And Peter, we have some fanduel to get to please.
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Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 1: Where Will Alonso Go?
Release Date: January 31, 2025
In the inaugural episode titled "Where Will Alonso Go?", hosts Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into the intricate world of sports fandom, player loyalty, and the looming contract decisions of MLB star Pete Alonso. The conversation seamlessly intertwines personal anecdotes with in-depth analysis of Alonso's career trajectory and his relationship with the New York Mets.
Timestamp: 00:00 – 04:50
The episode opens with a lighthearted discussion about parenting and shaping a child's sports allegiances. Don La Greca shares his experience raising his son, Marco, who is currently juggling his loyalty between the New York Mets and the Yankees. Alan Hahn and Peter Rosenberg contribute humorous takes on ensuring their children remain devoted to their preferred teams.
The trio reflects on their own experiences, emphasizing the importance of allowing children to choose their favorite teams while maintaining parental influence. The conversation highlights the delicate balance between nurturing a child's interests and respecting their autonomy.
Timestamp: 11:30 – 15:13
Listener Sam from Brooklyn calls in to share his experience of switching his allegiance from the Yankees to the Mets, triggered by the arrival of Keith Hernandez. His passionate recounting of smacking a Yankees hat off his daughter's head after she wore it illustrates the deep-seated emotions tied to team loyalties.
Sam's story underscores the intense rivalry between the Mets and Yankees and how it can influence even the youngest fans.
Timestamp: 15:13 – 28:56
The conversation pivots to the primary focus of the episode: Pete Alonso's impending free agency and his uncertain future with the Mets. Hosts dissect Alonso's performance, agent Scott Boras' role, and the Mets' strategic options.
The hosts discuss Alonso's potential moves, the Mets' reluctance to overcommit financially, and the broader implications for the team. They consider scenarios where Alonso either stays with the Mets for a reduced contract or explores opportunities with other teams like the Blue Jays or Giants.
Timestamp: 27:49 – 29:34
Alan Hahn proposes strategic approaches the Mets could take to retain Alonso without hindering their ability to acquire new talent like Vlad Guerrero.
The discussion includes the possibility of converting Alonso to a designated hitter (DH) role to free up first base for future signings. This would allow the Mets flexibility in their roster management while keeping Alonso's contributions intact.
Timestamp: 29:00 – 33:20
The hosts evaluate the Toronto Blue Jays' market position and their pursuit of players like Vlad Guerrero. They critique agent Scott Boras' effectiveness and the changing landscape of player management influenced by modern analytics.
The conversation highlights the complexities of multi-team negotiations and how player preferences are shaping team strategies, especially in markets like Toronto, which face unique challenges in attracting and retaining talent.
Timestamp: 33:54 – 38:00
Felicia from Mississippi shares her journey as a hockey fan, influenced by her parents and overcoming personal health challenges. Her story adds a heartfelt dimension to the episode, showcasing the personal impact of sports fandom.
Felicia's resilience and passion for hockey inspire the hosts and underscore the unifying power of sports.
Timestamp: 38:00 – 44:37
As the episode nears its end, the hosts tease future discussions, including breaking news about the Jets' offensive coordinator hire, and briefly touch upon cultural references in music. They maintain their trademark humor and camaraderie, ensuring listeners are eager for upcoming episodes.
"Where Will Alonso Go?" successfully blends personal stories with professional analysis, offering listeners both relatability and insight into the high-stakes decisions facing one of MLB's prominent figures. Don, Hahn, and Rosenberg create an engaging narrative that not only addresses the contractual complexities of Pete Alonso but also celebrates the enduring passion that sports ignite in fans of all ages.
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For more insights and discussions on New York sports and beyond, tune into future episodes of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg on 880 ESPN and the ESPN New York app.