Hour 1: Yankees Force Game 3

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 1: Yankees Force Game 3

ESPN New York | October 2, 2025

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Overview

This episode centers on the New York Yankees staving off elimination against the Boston Red Sox to force a decisive Game 3 in the playoff series. The hosts passionately dissect the previous night's nail-biter, debating managerial styles, bullpen usage, and the emotional stakes for New York sports fans. They delve into the psychology of fandom, rivalry dynamics, and the harsh standards that Yankees teams and their fans are held to.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Yankees Survive to Force Game 3

• The Yankees win 4–3 in a tension-filled contest, extending the best-of-three series to a winner-take-all Game 3 at Yankee Stadium.
• The hosts set the tone immediately:

  “The Yankees survive. And we've got a Game 3 tonight for the right to advance... Win or go home. Is this a must win? This is a literal must win.” — Don La Greca, 00:53

2. Pressure and Urgency: Red Sox Approach

• The hosts compare the Red Sox’s urgency to historic playoff moments, referencing the 1986 Mets’ must-win mentality.
• Don notes Boston deployed their top reliever, Whitlock, as their “last chip,” burning through key bullpen arms in a desperation move:

  “He used Whitlock like that was his last chip. Right. Whitlock had been lights out…You could tell that Cora felt like, I've got to take this to the end.” — Alan Hahn, 02:31

3. Playoff Strategy and Managerial Contrasts

• Discussion highlights Alex Cora’s flexibility and gut-instinct management versus Aaron Boone’s analytics-driven decision-making.
  • Cora is praised for reading the game’s “pulse,” while Boone is critiqued for predictably sticking to numbers.

  “You can kind of tell [Cora] has more of a pulse on the game…as opposed to the Yankees with Boone, they go more analytical, I would say about 99% of the time.” — Caller Glenn, 28:33

  • Alan articulates this tension:

  “The game is a living, breathing organism…What analytics never takes into account is mood. Right? Is under the weather, is, you know, maybe mentally just not there.” — Alan Hahn, 29:06

4. Game 3 Preview: Youth and Bullpen

• Two very inexperienced starting pitchers — Schlitler for the Yankees and the youngest Red Sox playoff starter since Babe Ruth — guarantee volatility.

  “Between the Yankee starter in Schlitler and now what Boston's going to do with Early, a combined 20 major league starts. 15 for the Yankees and five for the Red Sox. That's it.” — Don La Greca, 04:02

• Both teams have tired bullpens after high-leverage innings; offensive fireworks are predicted.

5. Star Performances and Key Plays

• Praise for “intangible” moments and individual hustle, especially:
  • Jazz Chisholm’s game-changing baserunning:

    “Him scoring from first on that base hit is the reason why he's got to play. Right…those are the intangibles.” — Don La Greca, 05:37

  • Rice's crucial two-run homer, offsetting an earlier Yankees home run allowed by Rodon.

6. Defining “Failure” for the Yankees

• The episode’s defining debate: Is the Yankees’ season a failure if they lose tonight?
  • Alan firmly asserts:

    “If the Yankees lose tonight, the season is a failure…I will say if the Yankees don't get to the World Series, I don't care what round it is, it's a failure.” — Alan Hahn, 13:30

  • This sparks discussion on the high expectations given last season’s AL Championship and roster upgrades.

7. Yankees’ Organizational Philosophy

• The crew reflects on how the Yankees resist “tanking” (rebuilding) seasons, unlike the Red Sox, and if that’s ultimately self-limiting.

  “The Red Sox will purge it and start over again and have a bad season, when the Yankees don't want to do that. That's probably the big difference between the two teams.” — Don La Greca, 10:49

8. Fandom and Rivalry Culture

• Lively conversations with callers about the psychology of being a Mets or Yankees fan, and whether rooting against rivals is “bad fandom.”

  “I was jealous. [The Yankees] had all the championships and my team didn't. The Yankees get all the girls.…You want your neighbor to be better than you?” — Don La Greca, 36:27

• The 21st-century Red Sox dominance over the Yankees adds emotional stakes; history and recent head-to-head trends fuel anxiety for Yankee fans.
• Alan insists:

  “You need to slay the dragon tonight and put that to rest…There’s no greater rivalry in sports than this one.” — Alan Hahn, 46:49

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On urgency in October baseball:

  “That’s where it got, you know, like the tight butts. That's when it started happening. You talk about excruciating, pitch after pitch, out after out.” — Alan Hahn, 02:31

• On Yankees’ litmus-test expectations:

  “World Series last year and you got better…if they don't win tonight, it feels like a lost season in baseball entirely in New York.” — Alan Hahn, 14:05 & 15:42

• On the state of fandom:

  “You want your neighbor’s wife to be hotter than yours? Do you want your neighbor’s kids all to come home with trophies and your kids come back with a participation ribbon? Is that how you want life to be?” — Don La Greca, 37:23

• Caller on Yankees' managerial style:

  “Do you think the Yankees will ever shift to that style that Cora manages with, with a little bit more pulse?” — Glenn, 28:33

• On scoring baseball games as a superfan:

  “If you're scoring games and have a family, it's a small miracle. What you did was almost like the creation of fire…If you score games, you actually have a wife and children…an absolute miracle.” — Don La Greca, 24:51

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Yankees force Game 3, playoff pressure, comparing 1986 Mets: 00:53–03:49
• Managerial tactics: Cora vs. Boone, bullpen usage: 02:31–05:58, 28:33–33:44
• Star performances: Chisholm's baserunning, Rice's home run: 05:37–05:58
• Expectations and defining failure: 13:30–16:45
• Callers discuss fandom and rivalry: 28:33, 34:15 (Sal in Queens, Mets fan on rooting dynamics), 35:01–39:48 (Fandom, jealousy, keeping up with rivals)
• Recent Yankees playoff performance and Boone’s elimination game record: 17:31–18:50
• Game 3 preview and bullpen situation: 44:04–44:33
• Final reflections on rivalry and Game 3 stakes: 45:46–47:00

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Conclusion

Hour 1 delivers a classic dose of New York sports radio—anxious, energetic, and opinionated. The hosts lay bare the emotional roller coaster for Yankees fans as they face another do-or-die moment against a fierce rival, highlight the micro and macro debates about managing, fandom, and franchise direction, and invite callers to vent, question, and debate along with them.

Bottom Line: For Yankees fans, nothing short of a Game 3 win will salvage a season full of championship expectations. For everyone else, tonight is pure baseball theater—New York style.

Transcript

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[A]

That's the word for today. The Yankees survive. And we've got a game three tonight for the right to advance to the divisional round of the playoffs. Win or go home. We argue all the time, Allen. Is this a must win? Is this a literal must win? This is a literal must win.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Win or go home, as the Yankees survived last night. Great game four three, final score. And you saw, watching that game, Allen, how desperately the Red Sox wanted to win that game. It kind of reminded me not. Not from a managerial sense, but just a sense of urgency, sense of. Back in 86 when the Mets beat the Astros in Game 6 because they knew Mike Scott was the pitcher in game seven. If they didn't win game six, they were. They knew they were gonna lose game seven and they wouldn't go to the World Series. And they came back from three nothing down to the ninth inning, eventually won the game and all that. I got that sense from the Red Sox because they knew they got an opener tonight and they. It was probably a combination of two things. Like Cora's probably going to tell you, listen, when you got your. Your foot on the throat of a champion like the Yankees, they won the American League last year. You want to finish them off.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

But I think deep down inside, he realized they're at such a disadvantage tonight. And the deeper you go into the pen, the more you have to win the game because.

[B]

Not available.

[A]

Outside of Chapman, who was up twice last night but didn't get in the game, he used all his effective relievers. So, you know, Yankees are in pretty good shape tonight. And I think the Red Sox knew going into a game three disadvantaged Boston, they wanted to get that one and didn't.

[B]

Man, he used Whitlock like that was his last chip. Right. Whitlock had been lights out, hasn't given up a Run since the middle of August and he was pitching well. Yeah, like that. That's where it got, you know, like the tight butts. That's when it started happening. You talk about excruciating, pitch after pitch, out after out. Right. That's the part where it started to really feel like the true playoffs. And you didn't know what was going to happen next. And you know, Cruz comes in, I mean, Rodan was, can I say good, not great.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's a perfect way to describe it. He wasn't great.

[B]

He was fine. But Cruz gave you a little shot in the arm, which is important, I'm telling you. It always feels like a variable when it comes to the Yankee bullpen. But getting to Whitlock the way they did, and you could tell Cora was having him. He went over 40 pitches. How many pitches did he throw? Well, he normally doesn't go that far. You could tell that Cora felt like, I've got to take this to the end. And the Yankees were able to wait it out. And once he started to lose it, that's when they took advantage and they were able to hold on. Bullpen did its job, but again, none of it matters if you don't take advantage tonight. And it's a crazy stat, I'm sure you've seen it, that the kid starting tonight is the youngest Red Sox pitcher to start a playoff game since Babe Ruth.

[A]

Like he's a long time ago.

[B]

That just tells you at Yankee Stadium, you gotta get to him. You gotta just make sure that he doesn't build any confidence. And then you see what gas is left in the tank for the Red Sox bullpen.

[A]

It's just so crazy. You've got such an important game. And between the Yankee starter in Schlitler and now what Boston's going to do with early. A combined 20 major league starts.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

15 for the Yankees and five for the Red Sox. That's it. That's all you got.

[B]

And he's probably got Warren. Right. Just in case. If Slitler doesn't have it early on, you feel like you can go to Warren and try to get some innings out of him, too. So it's two young pitchers. It's going to be a lot of young pitching, which could mean a lot of offense tonight.

[A]

Yeah, because I know we get crazy about the opener, but in a sense there's going to be no leash. Borden is not going to give his starter any kind of leash because you can't afford to. So both of these managers are going to play like, you know, manage like there's no tomorrow. Which is a huge advantage for Toronto because they're going to be sitting back watching these guys, you know, deplete their bullpens. They'll get one day off and then have to travel to Toronto. So that works out for the Blue Jays for the best of five series, which will begin over the weekend. But the other thing I thought of because we talk so much about Jazz not playing in game one and all the reasons and all that him scoring from first on that base hit is the, is the reason why he's got to play. Right. You can't put a finger on that. And it's not just speed because if you watch it, he got around the bases a little over 9 seconds. I think I heard case. It was like 9.16 seconds. But the jump that he got because he wasn't full bore going a second, but then once he hit second, he put the jets on, scores the, you know, scores and the throw was a good run. That's a huge run. The score.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

On a perfect throw. Like those are the intangibles.

[B]

How about rice?

[A]

You want and rice. Yeah. You said the text like I was still driving home and, you know, you, you had something pejorative to say about analytics. But then rice bang, two run, home run, Rodin gives it up. But then, you know, the Yankees take the lead, Red Sox come back. It was a fabulous game.

[B]

I can't say what I. What I texted. I was on the train watching on my.

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

It's not. It's not. It's.

[A]

I made a. I made a poor decision yesterday. You did well because there was no parking across the street from the building.

[B]

Analytics. Yeah, I can't say that. So I had to use your voice.

[A]

I had to park on Varick.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Beyond Watts. So just to turn my car around in the direction the Holland Tunnel, to sit in the traffic in the Holland.

[B]

Tunnel took an hour.

[A]

Like if I had parked where I normally would have parked, I probably would have saved myself about like 30 minutes. But where I was parked, there was just no way to get around that because the traffic is brutal even at 6 o'. Clock. Don't have to worry about that. Full show tonight all the way to 7. Take you into Ty Butler, who will then lead you in to the Yankees and the Red Sox.

[B]

When do we get the flying cars like the Jetsons had, by the way, when can we get there?

[A]

I've had this conversation many a time in the Jefferson.

[B]

A lot of things we have already today the one thing missing, flying cars.

[A]

I'm assuming the reason we don't is just how we would deal with it legally. Right. But the thing I always bring up.

[B]

Our society first super bowl, right?

[A]

The first super bowl ever played. So that was 1967, right? Halftime of the first Super Bowl. There's the guy with the jet pack and he's flying around the stadium in the jet pack. They were probably thinking, oh my God, at some point during the 80s, we're all gonna be flying around on a jetpack. Well, 60 years later, there's no jet pack. I'm not, I'm not going from to and fro in a jetpack.

[B]

Would you, would you go to and fro in a jetpack right now?

[A]

I mean, I would like to test it out.

[B]

You're sitting in your traffic and you're like, you know, I'll leave my car here for the night. I'm going to jetpack this thing. Huh?

[A]

Well, what's the issue?

[B]

Take it out of your trunk, put it on your back.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Fly right up.

[A]

I don't have any problems with height. We, yeah, I don't, I don't.

[B]

Right over the Hudson River.

[A]

Well, I want this thing to be tested. I don't want to be the first person to try it.

[B]

Well, you wouldn't be by then if it was.

[A]

I don't know what takes long in 67. The guy's jetpacking during the halftime show. Well, you know, we halftime. Big Bunny, what's his bad Bunny is playing halftime this year.

[B]

Bugs Bunny.

[A]

Bugs Bunny's playing. But a guy flying around in a jet pack for Chiefs, Packers. And that was fun. We Fast forward nearly 60 years later, don't have the technology. But, but we were stuck in the car and we were obviously engaged listening to the radio and, and, and it was just a fabulous game. And I, I'm doubling down, man. I, I, I think the winner of this series is going to the World Series.

[B]

You all the way.

[A]

Not because I just. These are two fabulous baseball teams. They are. And you see the way they're going at it. And you know tonight's going to be another nail biter right down to the nub. Right? And well, they're, well, look, the Red.

[B]

Sox, you tip your cap. Alex Gordon knows what he's doing. His, he's got a plan.

[A]

They both. See, that's the thing is they both have plans, right? Let's get this straight and we'll get your calls. 1-800-919-3776. How you're feeling Damian Woody's gonna join us at 4, his weekly spot. We've got that guy Thursday at 4:30. What time is Damian? 5:30. The 4:00 clock is booger. 5:30.

[B]

Yeah.

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Is going to be Damien.

[B]

We had boogie at 5:30, that guy at 4 at 4:30.

[A]

And then we have it. We'll have an ENN for the first time all week. Anthony Pusick because Peters has taken the day because of the holiday.

[B]

Yay.

[A]

It's going to be another great one tonight. It just. They're both very well run. It's just the problem is some Yankee fans, including myself, have a problem with the way the Yankees decide to run it. But they both do the homework. See, people talk about money with franchises, that they think about the players and the money that they're paid. You could tell that these organizations, they know where to put their money in the analytics and the information and the work that they do behind the scenes. These are two of the most well run organizations of baseball. The difference is it does feel like Cora's got a little bit more wiggle room to be able to go with his gut and go with a little bit more feel where the Yankees seem more stringent with their analytics. But these teams, both are pretty much run the same way and both fabulously put together. That's why they seem to be good all the time.

[B]

It's why the example of Witlock I give you because you would think that if you had a plan, you would know it's only so far. I want to take Whitlock because if we're not winning this game, I need him tomorrow in a winner take all game. This is a guy that doesn't give up runs, but because he knew I got to get today, I can't worry about tomorrow. Right. That is. That's the attitude that a lot of coaches and managers have as fans talk about, you should rest this player because you got to worry about down the road. There's a lot of talk of that, especially in the NBA. But even in baseball with pitching, it's like, I got to preserve my pitcher. No, he looked at it as there is no tomorrow. If I win today, I don't have to worry about tomorrow. And it was a very winnable game for them. So you saw him, he rung out the towel. Would Aaron Boone have had that same type of leash to do that or would they have a pitching, Would they have a number where he gets this many pitches? That's it. I don't know.

[A]

It's a Great question, but. And the other difference between the Yankees and the Red Sox? The Yankees will purge, I mean, the Red Sox will purge it and, and start over again and have a bad season when the Yankees don't want to do that. That's probably the big difference between the two teams. But when they, when they feel like they've got the players, they're exceptionally well run. But here's the question I have for you and for the listeners too. Again, 1-800-9193776. Clearly, the red Sox played that game to win.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Was it because, hey, I'm not letting the Yankees get up, I'm not giving them a second chance. Or was it, I don't think I can win, win game three. I don't think I've got the horses in with, with my starting pitcher being Alec, would he have managed it the exact same way if he had a healthy Giolito for Game 3?

[B]

I don't think so. Like, I really don't think so. I think he looked at it as I got to take these guys out and I got to do it now. I really think, I don't think he's saying I can't win game three. I think he knows the probability goes down, way down. Don't give.

[A]

That's what I mean.

[B]

Life. Look, you're at three, three. Like the game was right there for them. They could have if, if one Yankee again, one of these guys, Devin Williams, tip your cap, by the way, like, yeah, like he's giving you some innings now already. But if Cruz or Devin Williams just doesn't have it, this game could be different. And that's what we've seen from the Yankees over the course of the season is that one guy comes in from the bullpen like Weaver the other night, you don't have it and the whole.

[A]

Game can turn, it all can turn.

[B]

So he's riding on that, I think. I don't think he's thinking I can't win game three. I think he's got a strategy tonight. I'm curious to see how it's going to be. I think it's going to be a lot of runs. This is going to be, this is not going to be the nail biter as far as, you know, 2:1, 3:1 or even 4:3. I think this might have a lot of runs in this game and that's where he'll probably have to employ whatever he can offensively, but they might not have enough offensively. So we'll see. I just feel like again, if I'm the Red Sox. That's what I wanted to do with the Yankees, give them no momentum whatsoever. You go for it in game two, and then you have to employ a strategy in game three that is more about offense and less about defense.

[A]

And now it's all. That's the way it's going to be for both of these teams. Because even though I think there's an advantage the Yankees have in this game, they know there's possibly no tomorrow.

[B]

I got a question for you that I heard this morning. Dave Rothenberg said something.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That was a declarative but minute he said it. I nodded my head like, yeah. I mean, I thought it was Captain Obvious material, but he took a lot of heat from it and I even texted him to support him.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And it was simply this, if the Yankees lose tonight, the season is a failure. And he was getting calls and messages, whatever, from Yankees fans who told him that that's a Mets fan take like you, you just hate the Yankees. And they tried to argue with them that it's not true. Which is. It's absolutely true. In fact, I'll go as far you're going to say, whoever wins this going to World Series, I will say if the Yankees don't get to the World Series, I don't care what round it is, it's a failure. It is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

World Series last year, and you got better.

[A]

You got better. And it's. And listen, it depends on who you play in the World Series.

[B]

Well, get there. I'm just saying get there.

[A]

But if they get to the World Series disappointment, you don't win. I don't know if it's a failure, but you went to the World Series last year. You felt like even though you lost Juan Soto, the acquisitions of Freedom, certainly Bellinger deeper. You finished tied with the best record in the American League. And only the tiebreaker gave the Blue.

[B]

Jays the one finished the season 20 games over.500 over 46 games.

[A]

Listen, it would be a failure.

[B]

48.

[A]

And Yankee fans would say it was a failure. They had a problem with a Met fan saying, and I get that you're killing the messenger.

[B]

Can I say this?

[A]

I think if you said it, I think Yankee fans would agree. They didn't want to hear it from a Met fan because how can a Yankee fan, and I don't want to be fatalistic, they could win this game and win the World Series.

[B]

Of course they can.

[A]

But if they were to lose tonight, how can any Yankee fan think anything other than it being an absolute failure? Now but they just didn't want to hear it from a Met fan.

[B]

But you know, I'd be honest with you. Who knows more about failure than a Mets fan? They can recognize it. So I would say, you know what, you recognize the failure.

[A]

I should trust you a lot of it. And I would say this, and I would say, listen, if they lost last night, then both teams would have the exact same amount of playoff wins. Right. But obviously the Yankees made the playoffs and the Mets didn't. So the Mets were the bigger failure, no question.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

But if the Yankees don't make it out of the first round, the whole baseball season's a failure. For everything that we thought Mets, Yankees, World Series, if one misses the playoffs, the other one gets bounced in the wild card round to of all teams, the Boston Red Sox.

[B]

Yeah, what a waste.

[A]

You just, you just want to completely throw the 25 season away altogether.

[B]

Think about it. After everything that last year was in October, which was so much, both teams had a lot of fun through October. Right. And then you had, of course, the thrill of the Juan Soto chase and Soto jumping ship and going, you know, across town, yet that there was a lot of juice. I remember when we were talking in April about the start of the season and I was really trying to juice it up about how this could be a fun who's better, Yankees or Mets, you know, which team's better, which is Soto better as all that stuff. I felt like you could really have a true back and forth and they were good for up until June and then both teams hit the skids. Now the Yankees recovered the end of the season and they ended the season strong. And we'll see where they go tonight. But you're absolutely right. It does feel like almost if they don't win tonight, it feels like a lost season in baseball entirely in New York, which sucks. And because we already have a lost.

[A]

Season in football, it's not what you would anticipate going into this season. That one team would miss the playoffs in colossal fashion the way the Mets did. And the Yankees get bounced in the first round. That would be the Red, by the.

[B]

Way, to the Red Sox for a fourth time in the postseason in a row.

[A]

And you're looking at. Because now no Yankee fans have no love for the Blue Jays. Right. So then the Blue Jays play the Yankees. There's a very good chance that one of those two teams are going to be going to the World Series if not win the World Series. You know, listen, if with Houston being out, I don't know if The Tigers Guardians won the World Series. I don't think the Yankees would care, but Blue Jays and Red Sox. I think it would hurt a little bit.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

You know, just to see especially the Red Sox teams. Oh, your Red Sox.

[B]

Think about it. The 21st century, they have owned you. Where it used to be fun to own them, they own you now. That. That's. That's the part that it really starts. They win again. But another series, especially in your building. No, but did you see the stat?

[A]

I wonder how Yankee fans who hate Boone and a lot of Yankee fans do. I don't want to pigeonholed all of them, but certainly the ones that call this show and the people that contribute on social media want Boone.

[B]

Fire.

[A]

Did you see the stat last night? I never even thought about it. Was there that Boone's 11 and three in elimination games.

[B]

Hmm. That.

[A]

Wait, isn't that.

[B]

How is that possible?

[A]

They showed that. They showed the stat.

[B]

Wait a minute. They made the playoffs. Eight of nine years made the playoffs. They've lost. They haven't. Like, they've been eliminated. So they've jumped on the S broadcast. So they eliminated eight times. Nine and three in their last 12 elimination.

[A]

Nine and three in the last 12.

[B]

In their last 12 elimination games. Because they got to the.

[A]

They got to the World Series LCS.

[B]

And then they got to the World Series.

[A]

That's not bad. Nine and three last 12.

[B]

The last three times they've been to the. To the playoffs. So you're just going off of those numbers. Right. Three rounds last year.

[A]

Right. How many times did they face elimination last year, though? They faced elimination, obviously. The one time they faced elimination in game five.

[B]

Face. Eliminate.

[A]

Facing. Facing elimination. But how many did they.

[B]

I didn't see. That might span back to Girardi, to be honest. I would have checked that because that. That does surprise me.

[A]

But I have to go back and check.

[B]

Yeah, this will take too long. We'll do it during the break.

[A]

All right, let's go.

[B]

Sorry. All right. So we all agree, though, you don't win this game tonight, season's a failure. 94 wins. All this stuff. It doesn't matter in the end. Failure. I think Hal Steinbrenner might even say those words.

[A]

Well, I don't see how you can look at it any other way. He went to the World Series last year.

[B]

So why would anybody be calling you, calling Dave Rothenberg, telling him he's wrong?

[A]

You got three home games in the playoffs and you lose.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It would be considered a failure. Absolutely.

[B]

I don't Understand why anybody.

[A]

But again, I think it was because it came from a Met band. Like I get from the fan standpoint, like a lot of. A lot of Yankee fans rip me for saying, I think the MVP of the American League could go to Cal Riley. And they're. And they rip me. But meanwhile, how many Yankee fans would rip Judge if he doesn't win the World Series? Who cares about the mvp? They could say it. They don't want a Met fan to say it. If you came on the air and said, as you did today, that it's a failure, what Yankee fan would possibly push back? But because Dave, a Met fan, said it on the show today. Today, the show. Well, think about it. Today's show was Rick and Dan. Because it was Dave and Dan.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Cause Rick had to take the day off.

[B]

Rick's a Met fan.

[A]

Right. So. And Dan's a Met fan. I know. So that whole morning show. So anybody listening to that show hears any kind of negative opinion about the Yankees, they're automatically gonna say, well, they can't be of. They can't be of sane mind. They can't be logical. It was all. They're just coming from a Met fan perspective. That's the perspective they just didn't want to hear from the Met fan.

[B]

First of all, I have. I just realized that there's like, there's not enough Yankee fans here.

[A]

What's going on the air? Yeah, no, let's see.

[B]

So Rick, Dave, Mets, Mets, Me, you, Mets. Bart's not a baseball guy, but he always chooses the Mets because he hates the Yankees.

[A]

Well, you can't count. He's not a baseball. I'm not going to count Peter either. Ty Butler's Yankees. Jake Aspen's a Yankee fan. Chris Carlin's a Ranger fan. Texas Rangers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So this affair. So. So of the Met fans, it's me, Dave, Rick and Dan. That's four. And Yankee fans would be you and.

[B]

K. K. I'm talking about like the.

[A]

You know, from morning to you 6am to 7pm and then behind the scenes, guys, Anthony's a Yankee fan.

[B]

Santiago.

[A]

Santiago's a Yankee fan. RJ's a Yankee fan. I mean, there's more Yankee fans than Met fans at the station.

[B]

Doesn't feel like it's represented enough in the voices. That's how I feel.

[A]

But that's fairly even too. I mean, Kay's not a case a Yankee guy, although he may not be a fan, but uk.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Ty and Jake.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I wish they were on more.

[A]

So you Got to win everything. Is that what it. Is that what it is? You have to win everything? No, no, it's every championship. All the hosts.

[B]

You would. It'd be nice to be represented equally. That's all I'm saying. You know, I got to hear Met fans talking about the.

[A]

Can I look at you? Look at me, Jake, because. Because we're both mad fans. Yeah, you can understand where I'm coming.

[B]

He is sometimes. Except when the Dodger hat matches.

[A]

Yeah, he's wearing a white sock hat right now. But you know what? Yeah, he's a fan of fat. He had to find a hat that was more of a loser organization than the Mets, so he found the White Sox, but they got to win everything. All right, so maybe there might be more representation from the voices on the Met side than the Yankee side, but the face of this radio station, a guy that I nicknamed the Transmitter as a Yankee guy and Michael K. Yep. That's still not enough for Allen. That's not enough for Yankee fans.

[B]

It's one guy and it's only two.

[A]

Hours, but you made it feel. Oh, it's just one guy for two hours.

[B]

It's the guy in the morning, it's four hours, and it's two Mets fans telling me how the Yankees did last night again. You know what I mean?

[A]

This is going to sound very disrespectful.

[B]

But you're going to say it anyway.

[A]

Rick and Dave combined equal a Michael K. He's Michael K. He's been on the station for 20 something years.

[B]

But they have four hours. He has two.

[A]

See, the sales people, they actually get, like, visibly excited when he walks in the room. They smell the money. What do you think? I nicknamed the Transmitter because he's tall. I nicknamed him the Transmitter because he is what we are. We exist because of him. We were a satellite that's flying around his head. Okay, so that is pretty big representation orbit. And then when you talk of that, then who's next down the rung? You'd be right there. Right there. You're in the top.

[B]

I had a guy tell me yesterday at the train, you know, about. Well, you're a Met fan. I'm a what?

[A]

There's a mental illness problem in this city we're trying to correct.

[B]

We're talking baseball. And then he finally just said, well, you're a Met fan. I said, I'm a what?

[A]

Why would he think you're a method?

[B]

I almost had to smack the task.

[A]

Because you know what?

[B]

I haven't been. I haven't Been a. I've never been a Met fan and I've been a Yankee fan since the mid-70s when I.

[A]

Was my first team. A lot of people think that because the Yankees are your number two, that that doesn't count.

[B]

It doesn't count.

[A]

Right. Like iron Staten island with the Jets.

[B]

You got to be all Yankees psycho. I'm a little busy. I watched him constantly.

[A]

Well, no, no, no. I don't think I psycho.

[B]

I text all the guys on yes during the game randomly, whoever it is, if I think of something. I bother Jack Curry all the time. Meredith bother her K. But him.

[A]

But the number one team is the Knicks.

[B]

Well, of course it is. Right.

[A]

So that bothers Yankee fans that it's not. You know, how could you be a Yankee fan if you put somebody else in the way? If you know why?

[B]

Because I get a lot of money.

[A]

Well, that's not. Well, if you're Alan Hahn, the plumber, he's a great plumber. No crack gets the job done.

[B]

All right, maybe a little crack. Just a little bit.

[A]

What would your favorite team be? No money. Just. You're a plumber and a very good one. Good father, good husband. And you just a sports fan. The only money transaction with your fandom is the money you give them.

[B]

Probably Yankees.

[A]

Okay, so what are we talking about then? So kept. Wake up people. This is a Yankee fan. That's to my right right now. I just show them some respect.

[B]

I don't have enough time well to do the like deep dive. Scoring games and blogging.

[A]

If you're scoring.

[B]

I don't have that.

[A]

If you're scoring games and I've got somebody in mind and he's a really good guy. But if you're scoring games and have a family, it's a small miracle. What you did was almost really. It was like the creation of fire. If you score games, you actually have a wife and children. Just had one lucky one is an absolute miracle.

[B]

It's somehow one just made it made it up the road because I would.

[A]

Think most people that score games wouldn't know what to do with an A.

[B]

Never procreated. I used. You know what, now that you said that and I swear I used to score games as a kid though.

[A]

No, I, if I go. If I. Not since the kids because no, I gotta keep them. I'm talking about it like in the early 80s it was just me and Nancy going to Somerset Patriots. Yeah, I would, I'd spend the buck and I, I, I scored a game. There you go. You know, it's that's fine. But I mean, if you're keeping it and you laminate it and you file it away.

[B]

Well, I don't know if I'm, I'm.

[A]

I don't have a. I'm saying you're a virgin.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the people that overcame that, they're. They're miracles. They really are. They're like the guy. They're like astronauts. They're, they're brain surgeons. They're. They're, they're small step. Very few. They're the. Very few. The proud. The storekeepers.

[B]

Tonight I will be like I was last night. I was on the edge of the couch and then the last three innings could not. I had stood up the whole time.

[A]

I could not sit down because. Let's see your face. Elimination. It was a tough. There was a couple of really tough.

[B]

It feels different, Don. Like it's something.

[A]

Trevor's story up at the base is loaded. You're not sitting for that. You can't sit for that.

[B]

And then it's the one to the track.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[B]

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[A]

All right, let's hear from you. Enough of our shenanigans. 1-800-919-373 76. Let's start it off. Let's see. Got a lot of good callers here. Let's start it off with Glenn. He's up in Connecticut. You get us started here on Don on a Rosenberg. How are you, Glenn?

[C]

Hey, doing well, guys. Thanks.

[A]

Cool, man.

[C]

Wanted to.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Just wanted to talk about the way Alex Core manages. You can kind of tell he has more of a pulse on the game. It doesn't goes with his gut as opposed to the Yankees with Boone. They go more analytical. I would say about 99% of the time. But do you think the Yankees will ever shift to that style that Cora manages with with a little bit more pulse? Because when you see him, I feel like Yankee fans like the way he's managing and you can see that there's flaws when at times and he's not afraid to make the move. Do you think the eggs will ever pivot in that direction?

[B]

You know what, Glenn? I had this conversation with Big Al last night. My father in law, big Yankee fan, grew up in the Bronx, right? Watches all the games. And he and I like, he calls after games and we talk him out. And that was exactly what he said to me after game one. He was saying the same exact thing. He's like, you know, that's how the Yankees should. Should run their team, the way Cora runs the Red Sox. He just goes off a feel. He understands they all go with the basis of the analytics of the numbers. But then from there, as the game, like the game is a living, breathing organism. So whatever the numbers are telling you at the start, like, it doesn't always hold true. Because what. What like Don, you know, this with analytics never takes into account is mood right? Is under the weather, is, you know, maybe mentally just not there. Those are things. Emotion never counts, right, in analytics. So you're at Yankee Stadium. There's no analytic to tell you that this kid tonight who might have good stuff, gets on the mound and he's pooping himself. You don't know. You have no idea. Then what do you do, right? You don't know. So that's the problem. And Cora, I think, looks like from a distance, it looks like he has the ability to adjust as what he's seeing happening as a player who understands this, what's going on. Boone, they say, does have that freedom. But I think Boone will stick to the numbers more because it's probably either safer or he just believes that.

[A]

See, that last part is what I don't know. Does he have the freedom to go with his gut like that's always.

[B]

Everybody tells you he does.

[A]

He does.

[B]

Everybody that you talk to over there.

[A]

Says he does is nine out of 10 times in line with what analytics say. So it looks like he's being gutless, but he actually believes it. That's his gut because look what happens.

[B]

How do you sit Jazz. Jazz. Chisholm had a great season and you just tell him before game one, we're not playing.

[A]

All right, so there's. There's two answers to lose your.

[B]

You get your player pissed off and you look like I made my lineup worse, taking out one of my better players.

[A]

Boone cave to management and was afraid to put Jazz in the lineup because if they had lost, he'd get fired. Or did he 100% agree so there was nothing to change? I don't know. Was the feel you're Never gonna know. He had to believe every time he asked. He doesn't even slip and say we. He always says I. So now is that the reason he was hired? Because it was somebody that was of, like, mind? And here's the other thing. For all I know, Alex Cora is a guy that goes with his gut, and because he's got rings, he's able to get away with it. Or does Boston give him the wiggle room? Like, I don't know the answer to any of that. Nobody's ever gonna be able to tell us the truth.

[B]

Who was it in the broadcast? Was it Perez or was it Kony who said that? Even like that, he follows the numbers closely to a point where even the. He does follow the numbers, but he does deviate. And like Heim Bloom, who's all numbers, when he was there, he went against him. It's a no. Not doing that. Not doing that. And that's much different than what we see with the Yankees. Which tells you Boone is probably more in lockstep with Cashman than you think.

[A]

Well, let me ask you this last. When he came out to talk to Rodin.

[B]

Yeah. That was.

[A]

Was that analytics or was that. Hey, Rodin said, no, I'm good. Which is what Mac Freed had done that. Would Freed have stayed in? Yeah. So these are the things we don't know, because Boone walked out there. And I really believe Boone walked out there.

[B]

Take him out.

[A]

To take him out.

[B]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

So there was wiggle room there. Right. Because Rodin said no. And it wasn't like Boone said, no, give me the ball, you're out.

[B]

He.

[A]

He caved.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Free didn't.

[B]

No.

[A]

So there does seem to be some wiggle room that we don't notice.

[B]

A good point. It is. But the only way for all those who are going to ask. And that's a good question to ask Glenn. And I said this to Big Al. The only way it changes for fans who don't want to play this way anymore is it's got to start with Cashmere being replaced. It's the only way it changes. It doesn't change with the manager, which is why when Michael says it, I say it to stop saying Boone should be fired. It's not the guy who's going to. That's not going to change their ways. Cashman is the one that wants it this way. So if you want it to be changed, that's the guy that's got to go, and they've got to change up. Bringing somebody in isn't that hardcore with the analytics because. And the players feel like you trust the numbers more than you trust me. And we saw after game one that clubhouse was not good.

[A]

That was not now it's now it should be good. Better because the guys that sat contributed Rice. Rice with the home run jazz, the big hit scoring on a single from first base.

[B]

So play any terrific defensive.

[A]

Oh, that was a great. I don't know. How did the Red Sox not score in it? I don't know. Has he held before?

[B]

They held him up. Yeah, that's held him up crazy. But it was an athletic play. Tremendous.

[A]

Now that was a tremendous play. But it should have cost him a run. Agree throw. And it didn't. And they. They caught a break there. Let's go to Sal in Queens. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Sal?

[C]

Hey, what's going on? First time caller, big fan of the show. I just wanted to say so, Don, I'm very similar to you. We root for all the same teams. But I know you worked with Michael for years and now you're working with Alan, who are both Yankee fans and I'm a Mets fan and most of my friends are Yankee fans. I'm kind of by myself here. So some of them are really cool about it. We just like to talk ball and you know, shoot around and whatever. Most.

[A]

Some of the other ones, though, are.

[C]

Very standoffish and plenty of heat for missing the playoffs and making. Making my life hell. So I was wondering, would it make me a bad guy? And Don, I want to know how you feel. Also, is there a part of you just sitting there since the Mets are out and vomited all over themselves, do you sit there and kind of talk through the motions but secretly hope that the Red Sox win the series?

[A]

Kind of how I'm feeling.

[B]

It's a great question on that guy Thursday. It's a fantastic question. Are you a bad guy? You that guy if you're rooting. Exactly.

[C]

I'm just trying to see where I stand here because I know I'm in New York.

[A]

How do you got to stick to my cons here is that I've always been when I was totally a fan and not in this business that you always hated the other team in town because you don't want the other team to get the attention, bragging rights. Like you're. You're miserable. So forget about the rules of fandom and the fraud and all that stuff. You're a Met fan. Your team, as you said, soiled themselves. So do you want the Yankees to now turn around and win the World Series and basically dance on your grave and everybody talking about the Yankees. Doesn't that make you feel worse?

[C]

Well, you see, last year, I guess maybe it wasn't as bad because we were right there till the very end and we lost to the team that won anyway. And we put up a good fight and nobody expected it. It was a magical run. They were kind of jealous of us at the time. I remember Allen even saying that, but, you know, so it didn't bother me a lot last year. But this year, I mean, again, not to keep beating the dead horse, but we embarrassed ourselves. And on top of it, we get to hear all the. The. At home watching the Yankees, probably super jealous. All the stuff that all I've heard from all my Yankee fan friends that really makes me wonder. I just think it's powerful in good faith.

[A]

You can't.

[B]

You can't. No, no. You have every right to sit there and say, I don't want the Yankees.

[A]

It comes from a place of jealousy. I'll be the first to admit that my hatred of the Yankees growing up was. I was jealous. They had all the championships and my team didn't.

[B]

The Yankees get all the girls.

[A]

And that's what. And that's what. And you don't tell me that's not human nature in life. You. You live in a neighborhood, it's a nice neighborhood, and all of a sudden your next door neighbor gets a nicer car and they've made improvements to their house. Do you sit there and go, oh, good for them, Good for them. I'm happy for them. And boy, it makes the neighborhood look even better. Or do you say, and I gotta get cracking, man. I gotta, I gotta. I gotta improve my yard. I've gotta try to improve and do a better job for my family, right? It doesn't it drive you. You want your neighbor to be better than you? You want your neighbor's wife to be hotter than yours? Do you want your neighbor's kids all to come home with trophies and your kids come back with the participation ribbon? Is that how you want life to be?

[B]

Keeping up with the.

[A]

Or do you try to use that jealousy? Try to drive to be better and yeah, you don't mind if as you strive to get better, the neighbor maybe struggles a bit so that you can go past them? Is that so wrong? I know it's a sin because it's, you know, the coveting or whatever that is, but yeah, it's not even that. It's just that isn't that human nature.

[B]

Yeah. Well, it's competition also, isn't it? That's what competition is.

[A]

That's the difference. There is no competition. There is competition. Even though the Mets and Yankees are not in the same division, they are competing.

[B]

They still compete for everything. They compete for the market. They compete for attention.

[A]

The headlines.

[B]

That is how business.

[A]

That's just the way. Yeah, it's business. And that's the way George looked at it.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Your God. Yankee fans. George Steinbrenner hated the Mets. Never played. This is before interleague play. Hated them. Why? Because the Mets were taking some shine away from their team. There was another team that could steal a headline. There was another team that could steal a player. They. There was another team that might get talked about more than his team. And that drove him crazy. And he hated the Mets. And that's the why. That. That's what drove him to be better. Even though they never played outside of the mayor's trophy game, which ended in 1983, they never played each other until 1997 and then it was on. But they were in the same market because you know what? There's a lot of people, you know the people that went nuts and celebrated the Mets World Series in 86. You know how many of them were in Yankee Stadium in 96? Probably for the Yankees. Probably. There are people who swing back and forth so that if there's X amount of dollars to be spent on baseball in New York.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You know damn well that one of them wants to get more than the other. So they're competing with each other.

[B]

All you have to know is this. Ask the Yankees from that dynasty era which one was the World Series. They didn't enjoy the most. 2000. And why?

[A]

Because if they lost, they would never hear the end of it. They won because they were supposed to.

[B]

Think about it. Think about that for a minute. They had just won one of the most epic seasons ever. In 98. They had won three of the last four.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And they went into that one almost miserable because they knew if we lose this one, we'll never hear the end.

[A]

Never hear the end of it.

[B]

The pressure on them to win that one.

[A]

Right.

[B]

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[A]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[B]

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[A]

1-800-919-3776. Couple of lines open. You want to jump in about the Yankees? That guy Thursday at 4:30. You got somebody in mind?

[B]

I did. Yeah, I did too, but I don't know. But, but you know what? This time to think about it.

[A]

Well, I hope so. You got, we got 40 minutes and.

[B]

We got lots of calls and it can't be Peter.

[A]

You gotta come up with something more creative. Let's go to Flavio in Brooklyn. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, buddy?

[C]

Hey, what's going on, Don? What's going on?

[B]

What's up?

[C]

So I wanted to apologize for I called the thing last week saying that this guy Jackson was going to be running for his life and I was completely wrong. So I'm willing to eat crow for my bad take on that.

[B]

For one week. For one week. You never know.

[C]

Yeah, one week. Yeah. But, you know, I wanted to talk about the game three. I feel like, I think I was talking to Jacob when I was explaining that I felt like to me, the whole momentum Shift was. It was the top of the seventh. I believe it was Eaton. That was those rounding second going to third.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think Yoshida ended up hitting an infield single. Great play by Chisholm. And you know, it could, it could have gone worse if Rice, you know, really, really could have fumbled any terrible. But I don't know why the derby coach didn't tell Eaton to just go straight home. It's two outs. They teach you this stuff in little League. You know, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta run around.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You gotta run around the bases and just go straight.

[A]

The only thing I can think of is did he anticipate Rice was gonna keep it in front of him and didn't realize it was gonna buy because once it got by him, I just assumed watching that he was going to cross home.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. And I would have just, you know, I would have just taken that shot right there. It's already. You're already tied. Right. You know, go, go for the winning run at that point because you don't know what's going to happen. And it ended up, you know, biting them later on and they weren't, you know, giving any chances to score later throughout the game. And I know there was a question. I know Devin Williams, you know, threw the ball kind of high to Volpe, which is to me it looked like he was in a door to the outfields and that looked like a terrible play. It could have ended bad over there, but as a Met fan, I really wanted the Red Sox to win. I don't think they're gonna end up winning today against the Yankees just because I feel like, you know, they may have wasted a lot of their bullets inside their chamber.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think that, you know, this guy Cam Schlittler, he might be putting up a jump today. And that's just my.

[B]

He's got to have control. It's the one thing you would Schlitler that. The only thing is he's been really good. He's showing you he's made up of the right stuff to be a, you know, real good starter. But he can lose a little control. He does have control issue. He will walk some guys and you know, you have somebody on base and you know, that's what Cora wants. He wants to put pressure on you with baserunners. And then I'll. I continue to say it, it won't be over yet. They'll find ways, if they can, to test judge in his arm. Yeah, they will continue to do that.

[A]

Just need the opportunity to do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the other thing, too, for the Yankees, you know, they're. They're pretty spent in the bullpen. They will because it's elimination game. But Bednar asked close the game. That'd be a. Three straight appearances. They don't like doing that, so. And he did go 32 on the first two batters of the ninth, and then the final out off the bat looked like it's out of the game.

[B]

16 pitches for Bednar.

[A]

Yeah. So not that's. You want 15 pitches in an inning, but, you know, again, the Yankees don't like to use relievers. Three straight days. They'd have to use him. Three straight days.

[B]

Devin Williams also. 19. 19 pitches and he's back to back as well.

[A]

Yeah. So that's.

[B]

I still cruise to cruise at 14 pitches. And he had pit. He also had to come in for game one.

[A]

Right. So listen, they're all spent. I think the Red Sox are a little bit more spent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's going to be fun. It's going to be just a lot of fun tonight. For sure. Let's go to Javier and Queen. John, ESPN New York. What's up, man?

[C]

What's up, fellas? Glorious day. Shout out to Jacob and to Anthony over there. And Don, for the record, if my neighbor happens to have a hotter wife than my super hot wife, I'm gonna be okay with it. All right? Just. Just for the record.

[A]

All right, but what if your. Your wife wasn't super hot?

[B]

It's all right.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[C]

All right, so listen, guys, I was at the game last night. Tremendous environment. Great, great game. But I want to quote a great man, the lowest form of conversation is remember when. Right. Miss me. With the 2004 Red Sox talk. With their record this century against the Yankees in the playoffs, with not starting Jazz in game one and pulling Freed. Listen, it's about today. It's about tonight. There is no reason to feel down on the Yankees tonight. They are. They got the juice. I already got my tickets for game three. Let's go. This is what you live for, right? Tonight. This is what you want. This is what you wanted to be.

[B]

Avi's got the juice. I could hear it.

[A]

Yeah. I don't think anybody, no Yankee fan, should feel down, maybe feel a little nervous. It's a Red Sox. Forget about the history.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

The Red Sox dominated this regular this season, and I just. They've won one game in this postseason.

[B]

I disagree with him saying, forget about the past and all this stuff. No, you can't do that.

[A]

Well, forget about, you know, Ruth and, you know, DiMaggio.

[B]

Pass. But the recent past year, they have owned you. Yes. So, yes, you need to slay the dragon tonight and put that to rest. Because if you're a Red Sox, if you're a Yankee fan, and that was your history. And, oh, by the way, in 2003, it was so when Boone hits that home run, you don't think every Yankee fan, because there were Red Sox fans in the building. You don't think. You look right at Red Sox fan and let them have it. You'll never beat us. You'll never beat us. Right. You know, that's the way it is. It's just how fans are. So if the Yankees don't win tonight, the Red Sox fans in the building will let you hear it. It is about the past and the recent past. That's what makes a rivalry fun. Rivalries are because there's history between the two teams, and there's no greater rivalry in sports than this one.

[A]

Right. But when it all comes down to it, that.

[B]

That.

[A]

That makes it fun. But the Yankees had a hell of a season. They don't want to see it end.

[B]

No.

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You know, three games at home in the wild card round.

[B]

Can I read you some tweets from Rob Lowe, who's apparently disagreeing with me when it comes to.

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Not the.

[B]

Not the Rob Low. No, it's spelled differently. Rob said we all respect Jeff Passon. He said the Yankees wouldn't make the playoffs to start the season, but if they lose tonight, it's a failure. That's the first one. He went on a roll here.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Then he said, we also saw real development of three young players, two of which are starting pitchers. Yet you say failure. Then he said, judge actually had a better season than last year, and you say failure. So he's disagreeing.

[A]

I wish if you lose, I wish Rob would call. Because I want to respond to Rob, but I want time to do it.

[B]

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