Hour 1: Yankees, Mets Lose Tough Ones

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Episode: "Hour 1: Yankees, Mets Lose Tough Ones"

Release Date: April 2, 2025
Duration: Approximately 46 minutes
Participants: Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, Stephen A. Smith, Anthony Volpe

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1. Introduction and Soap Opera Discussion (00:00 – 08:14)

The episode kicks off with a humorous and somewhat chaotic exchange among the hosts, Don LaGreca, Peter Rosenberg, Alan Hahn, and guest Stephen A. Smith. The conversation quickly shifts to a critique of a scene from the soap opera "General Hospital."

• Peter Rosenberg expresses discomfort with a scene showing two older adults making out:
  "So here's... two adults in bed together, man and woman... Something very... They weren't terribly unattractive, but they certainly were. I don't know. It was like watching your parents make out. There's something weird." [02:14]

• Stephen A. Smith attempts to clarify the scene, revealing it involved Malika Andrews and clarifies there were no two gentlemen involved:
  "No, I looked up and saw the lovely Malika Andrews..." [01:07]

• Don LaGreca identifies the soap opera as "General Hospital" and criticizes the portrayal:
  "But no, I don't... We're talking about General Hospital, I believe." [02:28]

The hosts debate the appropriateness of depicting older characters in intimate scenes, touching on themes of ageism and body image.

2. Yankees and Mets Game Analysis (08:14 – 22:35)

Transitioning to sports, the discussion centers on recent performances by the New York Yankees and New York Mets, with a particular focus on pitching strategies and key player performances.

• Peter Rosenberg analyzes the Yankees' bullpen and Aaron Boone's strategy:
  "The bullpen is going to win way more games than they're going to lose... The Mets being 2 and 3, you're not taking advantage of it." [08:27]

• Don LaGreca praises Will Warren's start but criticizes bullpen management:
  "He was a bullpen loss. I thought Will Warren had a good start... But the bullpen is going to win way more games..." [08:53]

• Stephen A. Smith discusses Aaron Judge's performance and fan reactions:
  "When you go to a Yankees game... For a lot of fans... You don't want to have the consolation prize of the MVP without a ring." [21:25]

• Anthony Volpe comments on Judge's recent struggles and fan patience:
  "I didn't find it nearly as alarming." [03:58]

The hosts delve into the expectations placed on star players like Aaron Judge, the strategic decisions impacting game outcomes, and the volatility of fan support based on player performance.

3. Call-Ins and Personal Anecdotes (22:35 – 38:13)

The podcast features interactions with callers, bringing in personal stories and light-hearted debates.

• Caller David criticizes Peter Rosenberg for dismissing questions about his children:
  "I would love you want to talk about my kids... I think that's a good thing that people are saying, hey, how's it going asking things about your kids." [30:07]

• Stephen A. Smith defends his approach to discussing personal life, emphasizing genuine interest over generic questions:
  "How's she doing? What? Has she done anything?" [31:38]

• The conversation highlights differing perspectives on engaging with public figures about personal matters, balancing professionalism with authenticity.

4. Tribute to Val Kilmer and Film Discussions (38:13 – 43:58)

The hosts pay tribute to the late Val Kilmer, reflecting on his portrayal of Jim Morrison in "The Doors" and his impact on film.

• Don LaGreca reminisces about Kilmer's performance:
  "Don Val Kilmer played Jim Morrison... That was a triumph... He really took on the role like it was phenomenal." [38:17]

• Peter Rosenberg discusses Kilmer's ability to embody characters seamlessly:
  "That's why Robert De Niro is great... You don't see the actor. You see who that actor's portraying." [42:54]

• Stephen A. Smith shares his admiration for Kilmer's work:
  "It's worth seeing... I think it's gonna be hovering in the middle of most if it." [38:44]

The segment honors Kilmer's legacy in cinema, highlighting his versatility and the respect he garnered from peers and fans alike.

5. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Shows (43:58 – End)

In the final segment, the hosts wrap up the episode with promotions for upcoming shows and additional content.

• Alan Hahn advertises upcoming segments and encourages listeners to subscribe via the ESPN New York app:
  "Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN..." [45:41]

• Don LaGreca and Peter Rosenberg share light-hearted banter about tech mishaps and team strategies, maintaining the show's engaging and personable atmosphere.

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Notable Quotes:

• Peter Rosenberg on bullpen strategy:
  "The bullpen is going to win way more games than they're going to lose." [08:27]

• Stephen A. Smith on fan expectations:
  "For a lot of fans... You don't want to have the consolation prize of the MVP without a ring." [21:25]

• Don LaGreca on Val Kilmer's legacy:
  "Don Val Kilmer played Jim Morrison... That was a triumph." [38:17]

• Peter Rosenberg on personal questions:
  "How's she doing? What? Has she done anything?" [31:38]

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Conclusions and Insights:

• Age Representation in Media: The initial discussion underscores the discomfort and differing opinions on portraying older characters in intimate scenarios, reflecting broader societal conversations about ageism and attractiveness.

• Sports Strategy and Expectations: The analysis of the Yankees and Mets games illuminates the complexities of baseball strategies, the immense pressure on star players, and the fragile nature of fan support based on performance outcomes.

• Personal Authenticity vs. Public Persona: The call-in segment reveals tensions between maintaining a professional public image and sharing personal experiences, highlighting the challenges public figures face in balancing authenticity with audience expectations.

• Tribute to Talent: The homage to Val Kilmer emphasizes the lasting impact of talented individuals in the entertainment industry and the importance of recognizing their contributions and legacies.

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Structured Sections:

1. Introduction and Soap Opera Discussion
2. Yankees and Mets Game Analysis
3. Call-Ins and Personal Anecdotes
4. Tribute to Val Kilmer and Film Discussions
5. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Shows

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Transcript

[Don LaGreca]

Don, give me a piece of wood, I'll eat it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don. Peter, the most used sweat is at a buffet.

[Alan Hahn]

And Rosenberg.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'll be honest. The one thing I miss about having an office is the taste of Steve hart.

[Alan Hahn]

WHSQ and WCBS FM HD 2 New York, a good karma Brands radio station.

[Don LaGreca]

Don, give me a piece of wood, I'll eat it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don. Peter, the most used sweat is at a buffet.

[Alan Hahn]

And Rosenberg.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'll be honest. The one thing I miss about having an office is the taste of Steve Hart's nuts.

[Don LaGreca]

This is in North Dakota. This is New York.

[Alan Hahn]

This is Don, Han and Rosenberg.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The best threesome I've ever heard on.

[Alan Hahn]

8 80, ESPN and the ESPN New York app.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I. I just saw something I can't unsee now. Behind Don Mc.

[Don LaGreca]

It was behind me, so I didn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, no, I don't want to say the network. It was on. It wouldn't. Wouldn't work to our favor. It just. Peter, you were watching it too, were you not?

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, I didn't know what you were talking about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I thought you caught it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, I looked up and saw the lovely Malika Andrews.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Your eyes went that way, right?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Normal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just. The behind. Don, on a screen, on network television is a soap opera.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What was it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And there was a moment of the scene where there was two adults in bed together, man and woman.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay. It wasn't a white lotus thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it wasn't my. Oh, no, no. And they were just, you know, under the sheets. Clearly were supposed to portend they had no clothes on. They were older, you know, probably like again like our age. And they just start like making out. And there was just something very.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Wait, two gentlemen?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. Oh, no.

[Stephen A. Smith]

An old couple.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay, but it was just something you're playing to the room. I mean, who's watching these soap operas?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know why it's on.

[Don LaGreca]

The young kids, they got other things they can use?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. Well, yeah, but I don't know why it's on. But the whole idea of just seeing someone my age.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Wait, literally. Literally your age. And it was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They look. They look. They looked older.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, well, you're considering yourself in the old. Like. Wait, hold on. This is deeper. This could be the whole show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It wasn't like 20 year olds. We don't know today where you got like something.

[Stephen A. Smith]

But you're saying young people who are.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A little more attractive.

[Stephen A. Smith]

This was over two 55 year olds.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, maybe like, you know, like late 40s, early 50s.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And were they. But it Was it that they were very unattractive?

[Peter Rosenberg]

They weren't terribly unattractive, but they certainly were. I don't know. It was like watching your parents make out. There's something weird.

[Don LaGreca]

You're talking about General Hospital, I believe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I really didn't want to reveal. But okay. If you wanted to go there, ask Stephen A. Can we roll it back? Do we have the ability to rewind?

[Don LaGreca]

We're lucky we have it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I will. I am now. I do wish I could because I'm really curious as to what alarm does.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think Anthony's going to come in here with the remote and try to figure this out. If we can roll it back. Where are we at about three minutes.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't have a problem saying General Hospital. Good luck bringing that down. It's been on the air since 1963.

[Peter Rosenberg]

See if he could do it.

[Don LaGreca]

Comments? Not gonna bring it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

We should be able to see what happened.

[Don LaGreca]

Just be completely off on this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just before this scene.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I think we all. We always are.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So here's.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Here's the couple in bed.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Give it a moment. Oh, God. Wow.

[Don LaGreca]

It's really. He's the only. He was throwing up in his mouth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nobody needs to see that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hold on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Close the door.

[Don LaGreca]

The actress. Because I think that would be a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But no, don't.

[Don LaGreca]

That's way beyond 50.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They weren't. Yeah, yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

She's got to be older than 50.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That made it even worse.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hold on. But even so, what is going. This is very odd.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just know.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hold on. You know, real quick. Just to point out how weird Alan is. And this is fine. I want to learn that you're weird. This is what makes it fun.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Jacob, Anthony, you guys are very young. Did you find that as nearly as alarming as Alan did?

[Anthony Volpe]

No, I didn't find it nearly as alarming.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There was nothing appealing about that. And you could have looked away and you would have been fine.

[Anthony Volpe]

But I do agree.

[Don LaGreca]

PDA at all. I'm just not a fan of it. So.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Okay, that's fine.

[Don LaGreca]

It's not a video he'd pick out on you on red tube. I get that. Excuse me. But the fact that it popped on and him, like, throwing up in his mouth, I think is offensive.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I really can't believe. Like, by the way, just so everyone understands.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sorry.

[Stephen A. Smith]

The kiss that we're talking about lasted on screen less than a second, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because it has to.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'd say a half second.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you saw open mouth.

[Stephen A. Smith]

There was open mouth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There was a little tongue. Little tongue. And that's all I needed.

[Stephen A. Smith]

But you're. But by the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

God.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So that means you're in some ways grossed out by yourself. Almost.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes. Why would I ever watch myself?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm not saying you choose to watch it. That's different. But I don't want to know that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That'S what I look like.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Maybe that's the issue now. We're getting the bigger issue.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm watching.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm getting it, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is that. What?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Is that me now?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Damn.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Wow, that's an interesting take.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Well, I apologize.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I love learning who you are.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Derail the show. No, we're learning my disgust in being old.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm learning more and more, day by day who Alan Hahn is the woman.

[Don LaGreca]

That he's talking about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm not going to mention.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What was it? What's her face?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

From Melrose Place.

[Don LaGreca]

No, no, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Really?

[Don LaGreca]

No, no.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I thought it was her, but she's.

[Don LaGreca]

She's on September 11th, she will turn 55 years old. So. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. Right now.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So you were way off, too. You said she was much older than you said.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Way beyond us.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And I didn't even think that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't think that either.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Which means you. Which.

[Don LaGreca]

And I know that Stephen A's got a thing for her, so Stephen A would take exception to what you said.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I had no problem with her. The guy. The guy was a little. Yeah, the guy was a little.

[Don LaGreca]

I didn't recognize the guy because I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Think you once again misunderstanding me. I did not. My reaction is not that these are unattractive humans. It's just at a certain age, it just gets to a point where it's like, yeah, I don't. I'm good. Don't even see.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Okay. And then listen, I'm not going to have that.

[Don LaGreca]

And that's fine. You went like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I didn't expect.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen, am I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Am I caught me off guard that I'm looking at you.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm trying to start.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And above your head, I'm seeing soft.

[Don LaGreca]

Core porn to go, oh, God.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Old people.

[Don LaGreca]

That's. That's too much.

[Stephen A. Smith]

They're not old. They're your age. You think you're old like that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, I'm definitely old like that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

55.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Well, I'm not 55, but yeah, I'm old.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Like right there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I'm close, but I'm not there yet.

[Stephen A. Smith]

But real quick.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So, like, I earned that. I got to earn. I didn't get there with mentioning.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I don't want to go. Let me think of this delicately. There are a few veterans of the adult industry who are not 55.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

But they're.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, there's one that follows us on social media.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, there are a few.

[Don LaGreca]

Lisa Ann is one. I think she's like 52 years old.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Lisa's in her 50s.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Is Lisa in her 50s? Yeah, she might be. You know what? I think she is over 50.

[Don LaGreca]

All right, Lisa, she's like 51. Who is?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Lisa Ann's a former porn star. She's now a sports radio host.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And follows you.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, follows everything.

[Stephen A. Smith]

She goes to everything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She's.

[Stephen A. Smith]

She's a hardcore sports fan. Does a nice job. Does a lot of fantasy football stuff. Just sports in general. I saw her last time I was at wwe. Lovely, lovely woman. Shout out, Lisa, look, you drop.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Where's the drop there.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I mean, Don just said she follows all of us.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Love.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Lisa, there was one the other day that you slipped in and no one did the job.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Excuse me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

But let me say this. There are others, Don, beyond her, who are in that range, late 40s to mid-50s, who I enjoy. I don't think anything of it. I certainly wouldn't be disturbed at that level of disturbance from you. God, don't watch White Lotus this season. That disturbed you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I definitely went out. Well, not. I was caught off guard because as I'm looking at Don and his luxurious gray hair above his luxurious gray hair was this moment with another man with.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Gray hair making out with some lady.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It just caught me off guard.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Wow. I've learned so much.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And, yeah, I could have lived without that moment. And that's how we start the show. From that to torpedoes 800 now and nine.

[Don LaGreca]

We're done with that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm ready. I'm ready to move on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, we. We definitely can be. When Anthony Volpe had a chance to do something with the torpedo bat, instead grounded out. Right. Like, what we saw yesterday was sort of what we were going to. What we were talking about. Yep. That, you know, some good pitching. You know, you start to adjust and you get what you get yesterday, which is a Yankee loss. That was a bullpen loss. I thought Will Warren had a good start. Like, he looked good. I thought everything was working out until I think Aaron Boone wanted to flip. Who was it that was up. That was a switch hitter. He wanted to flip him to the other side. He brings in lighter and lighter. Clearly just didn't have. This is what's going to happen when you on a regular basis with a bullpen that you just.

[Don LaGreca]

And then you had nothing but Lefties against the Lefty in the 9th and that was it made it tough. But listen, you're not going to win every game. You ain't giving up, you know, you hate giving up a 4, 2 lead in the, in the 8.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Burns was good out of the gate. He was really almost on a.

[Don LaGreca]

Hitters got their home runs and they got hit three home runs. But listen, the Diamondbacks are a really good team. You know, I, we can't get crazy early but you know the bullpen, the thing about the Yankees is the way they win games. They're going to bash you with home runs and they're going to have their bullpen shut you down because they're not right now are not going to have starters, they're going to go overly deep in games and you're going to get moments like he got where Leiter left the fastball and it's a grand slam and they end up losing the game. But that bullpen is going to win way more games than they're going to lose. But the thing that you don't have with Cole out is somebody that's going to go out there and say, I got it tonight, guys, don't worry about it. His bullpen is going to go out and get between nine and 12 outs pretty much every game. That's the way Major League Baseball is right now. That's the way the Mets are going to have to do it now. You know, Senga was okay, not great through 77 pitches.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was good.

[Don LaGreca]

Gave up the run, home run.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, wait, Senga, they couldn't hit the fork but his fastball, they were sick.

[Don LaGreca]

He gave him a two on home run in the first inning and they never really recovered from. They did tie the game. But you know the Mets right now are struggling offensively. That's their issue. But the pitching's been good, but you know there's not. Guys, they're going to give you a lot of length outside of Cole and Cole's out. So this is what's going to happen. But I'm not going to get overly caught up in the start for the Yankees or you know, how bad things have been for the Mets. I will say though, at 06 losing one of their better players, the Atlanta Braves can be in a little bit of trouble here. And just from the standpoint of, all right, they'll be okay. But an 06 star could knock you out of the conversation, maybe winning this division if you don't straighten it out. And the Mets want to take advantage of the Braves play Right. Like, if the Braves are going to go 06, the Mets being 2 and 3, you're not taking advantage of it. So if the Braves are going to struggle out of the box, if the Mets can get going here, build up a nice little lead against the Braves, that could help you down the road. You don't want to miss out on this opportunity the Braves are giving you. Those are the things I kind of pay attention to. But again, after that, even that feels.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you're. Don, turn. Turn around. This is what I'm talking about. Like, this is unnecessary. Just unnecessary. See it? Now you see what I'm talking about, right?

[Don LaGreca]

But no, I don't.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's just two people in bed. They're not even that old.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's too much. Guy's got, by the way, you don't think. I mean, it's like he's wearing a sweater. I mean, can we just. You know, they do have manscape now. We can trim that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You need your. What are you worried about the man's hairy chest for?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's a lot. It's just a lot.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You got a lot going on, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I am not. I am.

[Don LaGreca]

No, this is. This is a you thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got it again.

[Don LaGreca]

It's not my cup of tea, but it just. It looks like a soap opera. I don't.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It just looks like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why is everybody in this Soap Opera over 50 years old?

[Don LaGreca]

That's what soap operas are, who you appeal.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, no, they're kissing again. They're kissing. Oh, they're still kissing. Oh, boy.

[Don LaGreca]

This is a problem.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, there's something going on here. BetterHelp.com promo code Peter, I don't know what you call.

[Don LaGreca]

It's like a phobia.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Old people kissing. And they're not even old. Same age, his age. People kissing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which is, again, I'm revealing a lot about myself. I find myself such as. Well, that's crazy.

[Don LaGreca]

This guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But what you're saying, though, about the Braves and their situation, it is something done that you monitor at this point, right? Because what you don't want, you'd rather be ahead than chase. In the season, the Mets were able to recover from their own 05 start, as we all, you know, famously remember all that moment. And they were. But it did take them a couple of months. But you don't always want to be in that kind of a situation. You want to. You want to have somebody that starts down and keep them down. Right. And that's why I understand if you're looking at things at the start of the Season, I always. I'm with you. Where I try to find trends like what are we starting to see, what we are seeing with. Let's say the Yankees in particular, they're still reliant on the home run.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

As much as we want to believe they're more athletic and they'll run the bases better and all that stuff, they still are a team that when they're hitting home runs, that's when they're scoring. And we don't see them get runners in scoring position across enough. They don't do that enough. And one more thing. Did I hear. Now, I might have been wrong. I asked Anthony if he heard it and he doesn't recall. Now, remember, I know I was at the game last night. I was at the Garden. But just full disclosure. This morning, the first thing I did was watch back the Yankees game at full length. I watched the whole thing back.

[Don LaGreca]

Because you're a pro.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was able to speed through it. And I obviously watched the Met game as well. Did I hear. And it might have been a smattering, but a smattering is more than a few.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Boos. When Aaron Judge struck out.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Really?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Later in the game. There was a moment later in the game and I meant to write it down, I didn't. But I thought I heard some either just murmurs or boos.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That like, all right, enough's enough. Cause he struck out a couple of times yesterday, if I'm not mistaken. You know, they want him to come through in these moments when we need some runs. And look, you get a day like Saturday and then you get a day like yesterday. But that's an Aaron Judge season.

[Don LaGreca]

All right. But yeah, for fans to be on him already, it just tells you just how ridiculous some fans are going to be, especially since he's having a good season. And it was, you know, so the Yankees lost. I mean, a big deal. It's going to happen. And the Diamondbacks are good, Right. They almost made the playoffs last year, went to the World Series the year before. Corbin Burns is one of the studs in Major League Baseball. And that's a good baseball team. You're going to lose games. I mean, that's just the way that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is bottom of the order, really. What did most of the time, Ben Rice hit one out.

[Don LaGreca]

It is interesting what you said about the home run runs. Fans and we in the media talk about that as a negative. If they are going to be the face of the torpedo bat. The torpedo bat's not to, you know, get a ground ball single up the middle it is to hit more home runs. That's what we thought about Yankees want to hit home runs. When Michael would argue, oh, the home runs don't come in the postseason, so you got to figure out another way to manufacture runs. Aaron Boone would call in and say, no, you're wrong. There's as many home runs in the postseason as there are in the regular season. This team wants to hit home runs. So when we talk about, oh, well, they're hitting too many home runs, not situationally hitting. It's kind of by design. Now they want to situationally hit home runs. Maybe not situationally, situationally hit, but the idea is to go up there and bash. So for all the people are like, I wish Volpe would hit some more doubles, hit some more the other way. Hit the ball on the ground, move the runner over. No, Volpe's doing what the Yankees want him to do, hit home runs. They didn't construct or get involved in the torpedo bat for any other reason, but to bash the baseball. We'd have Mark to share on as a weekly. Remember Peter?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, I did.

[Don LaGreca]

It's my job to hit over the shift. Right. It's not even shifting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a great line.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, but that's. So we keep talking about it as a negative. The Yankees love this. This is how they want to build their baseball team. Yeah, they'd like to. If you're not going to hit a home run to get the RBI single, if you're going to strike out, you know what? Moving the runner over might not be the worst thing, but at the end of the day, go up there, bash the baseball, hit five, six home runs, win the game 12, three. That. That's what they're designed to do. Especially now with the, with the rotation being in flux. Just bash, Bash their way through any issue. They're like, they're like the Hulk.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. I mean, again, all power and might 0 for 8 with runners in scoring position in this game. But judge twice two at bats for him and he did. He struck out twice. And I think that's the expectation when you go to a Yankees game when you're going to the stadium. For a lot of fans, you know, the die hards are. The diehards are the ones that are there all the time. The season ticket holders are the ones that probably have more patience.

[Don LaGreca]

Would you agree? Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think most of the boos that you hear are probably from the people that are like, this is the only game I'm getting to go to this year. And I came to watch this guy have a night. And Instead he went 0 for 4 with two strikeouts and he left runners in scoring position twice and we lost by two, which means our hero didn't come through. I think it was the, his last at bat was the seventh inning, eighth inning maybe, and he struck out then. And that's when you hear it. And I think that's the part where I'm, like I said, I'm watching for trends. The patience level with Judge is something that I'm thinking. I'm very curious to see how fans are with him this season, especially after the, that second game of the season where he was just godlike, you know, I am. That's something I'm watching. Just like the Mets when we see that when they finally come home on Friday and they're in front of their own fans, Juan Soto, guys, they're not pitching. He's not getting anything. So he's doing what he's supposed to do. Draw the walk, get on first. Okay, Pete Alonso, make something happen. And Alonso couldn't make it happen.

[Don LaGreca]

Vientos and Alonso aren't giving him the support that he needs.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So how long before even Mets fans start looking? Soto and I think that especially if he does what he does in the field and you say, like, when do they start the smattering, the smattering of boos. The concern of, I thought this guy was supposed to be the greatest player in the world.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, it's going to be a love fest to start the game on Friday because it's their first game home. But you know, listen, Viento strikes out, Alonso strikes out. You'll start to hear it because there's a lot of expectations around getting a Juan Soto. And as far as the Yankee fans, if there was a smattering of booze, last night's a great example of maybe people getting in the house that normally don't go. Because if you're a season ticket holder, last night's the game you probably want to sell 36 degrees. 36 degrees. It's a Tuesday. Diamondbacks aren't particularly attractive, although Corbin Burns is. But you know, I'm saying I want to sit there. I got to tell you, football's. There's a mentality about going to a cold weather football game that you kind of buy into.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Absolutely.

[Don LaGreca]

Baseball, man, like the sit there, you don't know how long the game is going to be. It's 36 degrees. Depending on where you're sitting in the stadium with the wind blowing, it probably felt like it was 20. So probably a bunch of people decided, I want to go see Aaron. I want to go see Judge. He's amazing. He hit four home runs in the Milwaukee Series. Oh, my God. He didn't. Home run. Boo. That's how fans get.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's New York, isn't it?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, that's New York.

[Don LaGreca]

It's all about what? That's why the jets are trying to lessen their expectations. It's better to go in with none, because if you go in with expectations and you don't live up to those expectations, even if you're good, but the expectation is you're great. Even if you're great, but the expectation is you're gonna be phenomenal. You're gonna hear it. Hey, listen, you pay good money for tickets, right? New York is a special place. I love it here. But listen, you pay a premium. So the expectation is always gonna be. It's better here than anywhere else, because that's what I pay for. That's why I paid 50 bucks to park. That's why I go. Because New York, there's a level of expectation for some people. A normal person's gonna say, it's April. This guy is a God in a Yankee uniform. Appreciate him. And there's some people who, hey, you know, bash for me, clown.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's true.

[Don LaGreca]

I paid 50 bucks for these tickets. What are you doing? Striking out, you animal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's not after the first at bat, right? It's usually, it's going to be all right, this is the last time up. Because that's another thing that you see at Yankee Stadium is when the game's out of hand, what do you see? People will stay one more. Like one more inning instead of rushing to the cars to get out of the parking lot. If they know Judge is up in the next inning, then the minute his at bat is over, everybody leaves. That happened on Saturday. They were hoping to see the fourth home run he got judged for. So that is something that I think with. With great power comes great responsibility. And I think Judge is one of those rare players that we have, especially here, but in sports, that he's the price of admission. Like, he's the draw. Yeah, it's the Yankees. I get it. But for a lot of people, that's why he's the biggest star in this city. He's a draw. You're gonna watch. As I said, you're not leaving the room if Judge is up at bat.

[Don LaGreca]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. You're not leaving the room. You're just curious to see. That's what he is. So if you go to a game, spend all the money you talk about and he goes over four, two strikeouts and the team loses, you're going to feel a certain way and it's not his fault. That's baseball, Susan. But for some fans, I wonder, because it is New York and the demands and everything else, I just, I wonder about the patience factor with him because he heard boos last year in the playoffs and you're going to hear it. I heard on Michael K. Show yesterday where the minute you say anything positive about the start of the season that judge is having, the first thing that is said is what?

[Don LaGreca]

Well, let's see.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Doing the postseason, do it in October. And that's why I say he's reaching a point with his relationship with fans. It's not a interesting place because, all.

[Don LaGreca]

Right, we saw you break the American League record. We know you can go out there and you can hit 62 MVPs. We get, you can hit the ball 500ft, win the damn ring. That's what the Yankee fans want to see. They'll go to a game where he hits three home runs, but if he strikes out and they lose the game in the final at bat, it's like, oh, yeah, sure, hit home runs when it means nothing, but the second it means something, it's completely unfair. But it's the byproduct of, I give Yankee fans credit for this. They're going to be entertained to a point. They love their players, they want to see records broken, they appreciate all these stats, but at the end of the day, they want to see it come to be a championship and they don't want to have to. They don't want to have the consolation prize of the MVP without a ring. Ask Alex Rodriguez, right? Winning MVPs, but no ring. And then he finally did win the ring. But before then, it was, who cares about the MVPs? I want to see a championship, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a real thing.

[Don LaGreca]

But you know what? Unfortunately, I don't care how big his bat is, I don't care how strong he is, he can't win a championship tonight. It's not on the table. It's April.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I just, I just fundamentally don't understand in this town. I understand feeling strongly. I understand the amount of money you spend for. Spend on, for tickets. I do not understand booing your most beloved players with the regularity that it happens.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It shocked me. I thought I heard it. Now, anybody at the stadium last night, if you were there, tell me if I'm wrong. I thought the last at bat, that strike, I thought I heard it in the broadcast. Anthony said he didn't. So maybe it's just me and I'm.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Aware maybe the air just came out of it.

[Don LaGreca]

I took it the way I took it is just, you know, a disappointment that there was an opportunity and it wasn't taken advantage of. That could be true too. Is it booing him or is just booing? The situation like this sucks. We were up 42 in the 8th inning and now we're going to lose this game. Really?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Could be both. We'll see.

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[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

With Don Lagreca and Peter Rosenberg, I'm Alan Hahn. 800-919-3776. Is the number again or just a little programming note. Mets baseball takes over at 4. We will jump over if you're listening on radio to 10:50am but of course if you have us on the ESPNYork app, don't go anywhere. We stay in one place. That's why you want the app now.

[Don LaGreca]

Did you see Zoolander?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

When they're trying to break into the files on the computer and they're, they're smacking it like, like two monkeys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Uh huh.

[Don LaGreca]

That was us trying to figure out how to change the waste tray in the coffee machine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh boy.

[Don LaGreca]

And we figured out a camera on this, Me and Peter. Well, we did figure it out. So.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I saw them do this, I.

[Don LaGreca]

Cannot have the coffee machine work.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. They showed us a week ago. Didn't Mary show us?

[Don LaGreca]

Mary showed us. But that. That was, you know, in the first day. So that's like two weeks ago.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You couldn't just.

[Don LaGreca]

But we figured it out. But there was a couple, like, you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Make Mary get him over and help you.

[Don LaGreca]

I figured it out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You did.

[Don LaGreca]

But there was a moment where the two of us just seemed like we were just slapping at the machine, just hoping that it would just tell us what it needs to happen. As you can see, we both have our mugs full. We made it work.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Both you and your mugs. Let's take some calls here. We'll go to David and Elizabeth to start us off. What's up, Dave?

[Don LaGreca]

Hi, Dave.

[F]

What up, fellas?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What up, Don?

[F]

What up, Peter? What up, Hollywood? Hans Johan. Quick, quick. Things I'm saying because I know there's a bunch of people that want to talk. Our quarterback was at the game last night.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Did you get to talk to him?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I saw him. I said, what's up? That's it. I didn't really get. You know what I noticed, though? I didn't like this. He.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Which quarterback?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Justin Fields. Oh, that's our quarter.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, he said, our quarterback.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When David says hours.

[Don LaGreca]

But there was general disinterest in the crowd.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I could not believe. So they put him on. On, you know, the scoreboard. Like, they do celebrity row stuff. And they put him up, and they. They actually played a clip of him being interviewed. They had jets there. Like, they let you know, hey, by the way, this is a Jets quarterback. This is Justin Florida Field. Then they show him, and everybody's like, that was the reaction. I was like, damn. And then there was. What was his name? Is it Marcello? Is he, like, a Brazilian soccer star?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, Marcelo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's there. They show him. You would think Jesus was in the building.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, well, dude.

[Peter Rosenberg]

People were running across the corner just freaking out.

[Don LaGreca]

In fairness, because he could say, oh, it's a giant crowd. I think now, Russ got a little.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Bit of a reaction when he was there last week.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. Because they. Justin flipping winning super bowl like nothing. But the thing is, isn't that kind of the reaction even from Jet fans? Like, nobody pumped their fist. They're like, I hope it works out. I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, it.

[Don LaGreca]

Shouldn't that be the reaction to the Justin Field signing? Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's so many Jets. Even if it was psyched about this they were trying to tell me, like, I want them to get justice bailed. And now they got him.

[Don LaGreca]

And everybody's like, dude, I'll let you finish. But like. But do you know. Do you know how many follow. You can let but be pumped.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Do you know how many foul. Do you know how many followers. Marcelo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it Marcelo? Cuz somebody said Marcello.

[Stephen A. Smith]

They're wrong.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's really Brazilian.

[Stephen A. Smith]

His name's Marcel.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He has.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it like, like 6.5 million?

[Stephen A. Smith]

68.5.

[Peter Rosenberg]

68.5.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Wow. People dig so respectfully to Justin Fields.

[Don LaGreca]

Respectfully.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fair enough.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Although I will say I think. I think Justin Fields is the most exciting quarterback in the market.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So it's not. That's not a stretch. All right, David, what else you got?

[F]

I agree. All right, real quick, fellas, I just want to say this. I remembered what I forgot to tell you guys yesterday. It would be nice if you guys made a list of top 10 bus quarterbacks. Real quick. Don, I wanted to ask you about our Mets. What do you think about pitching? I just asked Michael a segment ago before you guys got on. I'm concerned with the pitches, like, as far as hitting, I know we're gonna hit, but pitching right now is a huge concern. I appreciate you guys for your time and Hollywood. Han, our man Mello made it, baby.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, we're well deserved. We will talk about. Right. And that's only gonna be out again. If you're listening, go to 10:50 at 4:00 or just stay on the ESP.

[Don LaGreca]

No, I agree. Going into the season, it was probably your primary concern, but so far I think it's been good. I mean, the starting pitching hasn't really cost them. Even Clay Holmes wasn't great on opening day, but it wasn't like he didn't give you a chance to win the game. If the Mets were hitting the way they should be hitting, you know, they could be. What are they, 2 and 3? They could be. They could be very easily. 4 and 15 and. Oh, they're not hitting. Yeah, but like, Senga wasn't great yesterday. It wasn't bad, you know, Listen, by.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The way, again, that fork pitch was unhittable. Yeah, they sat on his fastball and he's got to learn from that and go forward. But I didn't think he was a mess.

[Don LaGreca]

No, it was fine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He threw one bad pitch.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. And unfortunately it was the first thing. They came back, tied it, and then they immediately took the lead again. But, you know, you Give up four runs for a team that's supposed to be special offensively. Yeah, it should be enough to be able to win the game. Their offense is struggling. I, I think the offense is going to be fine, but on the other end of it, the pitching, yeah, it's going to be a concern, but so far it's not. It's been good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Again, I always go by it's early and adjustments happen. Let's continue with calls here. Let's go to Bill in Queens. Wants to talk to Peter.

[Don LaGreca]

Interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peter, Bill, good afternoon.

[G]

Thanks for taking my call. Peter, you perplexed me yesterday. I'm not a fan of yours, but I have a lot of respect for your work ethic. You work three jobs. Whatever you do podcast, you worked very hard. But you said how you were bothered by I don't know if the exact words that people asking you about, oh, how's the sleeping going? I'm the father of twins and I have a third child. My kids are grown when my daughter's gonna be a teacher. My son's FDNY ems and my younger son leaves for the Marines in a month. Okay, I would love you want to talk about my kids? I'll talk about my kid. Toe 24 7. And it seems to me like you're perplexed, like why people asking that the single most life changing event in your life, of anybody's life, in my opinion, is having a child. Because you go overnight from whatever sleep pattern you want to. Now your life revolves around this child. And I think that's a good thing that people are saying, hey, how's it going asking things about your kids. You and your beautiful wife made a beautiful daughter. Enjoy every question that somebody asks about your kids, man.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Okay, I hear the framing that you're saying there. I was saying I love when people ask about my daughter. Everyone here will tell you I'm very, very quick to talk about my daughter. I just meant it's a little generic. That's all I meant. Ask, ask a. Ask a question. How's she doing?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Can I see a picture? Just ask me. How's the sleep? How's the sleep is the laziest, half assed attempt at smalltack. That's all I meant.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think Bill, I'll defend, I'll defend Peter here on this one. What you're referencing is not asking about a child. No, what you're talking about is lame, lame things to start a conversation.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Correct.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We can be better than doing the correct. That old cheesy joke. But you're not getting any sleep.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And by the way, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Then you roll your eyes like, no, no, I'm not getting sleep. I knew it was coming.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And I. I feel bad. There are people in this office hearing me have this conversation who said it to me, and I feel bad because they probably like, well, that's what I. But this is what I do professionally. We have to. This is what makes us entertaining. But I do mean it, like, you know, do a little bit. Hey, how's the weather day, Bob? That's not a way to be close with someone. How's she doing? What? Has she done anything?

[Don LaGreca]

Even in his complaining to you, he's like, you should cherish every question about the kids. How are you sleeping? Is not a question about Maya.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, my. Don just won again. Another point. God, for Don.

[Don LaGreca]

How is she sleeping? That's actually about her, by the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How are you sleeping?

[Don LaGreca]

I don't care about you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Don is such a genius, too, because I believe everyone here, because I'm close to the people here, knows how she's sleeping. Because I'm actually quite proud of it. All you have to do is ask. Hey, how's she sleeping? Dude, guess what? My daughter, she's only two and a half months. She sleeps like ten hours a night. I'm very proud of it. It's awesome. She's a great little baby. But the whole. How you sleeping there, Bob?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what it is.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I've been doing mornings for 18 years. I haven't slept well since I was 27. So, like, it just gave me something better. But you know what I don't like? Here's what I like about the call. His distaste for me completely informed the way he heard that. And his desire to then ask the question which implied that I don't even really care that much about that I had a child and I don't really want to talk about her. You were allowing your own bias towards me that you've gotten over time that you decided you don't like me. And if I were to put it together, I could figure out how you have decided that you and I are different because of our viewpoints on certain things. And now you think I don't treasure my daughter, who, by the way, managed to get two full feedings in before I left the house today. Like, I'm in, bud. Just ask me something better than how you sleeping.

[Peter Rosenberg]

See what he's doing? He's shoving food down her throat so he can go to work. That's how selfish he is. Two feedings she's not gonna need to eat later if I feed her twice. Now I see what you're doing.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I mean, Alan's been a long time. If you feed her twice early, you still got to feed her again later. But if you remember that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, I'm just saying, six feedings a day. Apparently you have it all figured out.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Listen, I said you knew dads.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You new dads really are special. You guys come up with these things that none of us have ever figured out. See, now you know. Do you know that you could do that? Really? Do you?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, what do you mean?

[Don LaGreca]

What?

[Peter Rosenberg]

How's that gonna work out?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hey, Don, what is he talking about?

[Don LaGreca]

I think he's just trying to.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He's trying to get me going again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm giving you the example of the reverse effect.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What do you mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The new dad that tells you things that you just stare at him like really? It's the same thing as like, are they sleeping?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, that would be if someone, you volunteer, you just come up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know that I have a million kids, right? So when you bring up something to me and you say it in this way that you discovered something.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What did I discover?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, no, I'm not. You're not saying me. This is a hypothetical.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Okay. Someone did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Completely hypothetical.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Got it. Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I'm just showing you how this works both ways.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Got it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because there are people.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh yeah, yeah, sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The veteran parents who see the new parents and that same thing happens in the reverse way. Instead of a hey, you getting any sleep? It's something else. And you just stare at them like you think I don't know that? Like, but that's cute.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And by the way, meanwhile, here's the thing about me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you can't be mean. You're just like, ah, yeah, that's, that's.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, I totally get it. I know. They act as if no one else has been to this rodeo before.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's my point.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Right. And because it's new to all of us and we all are self indulgent and it's our life at this moment. But I'm not a generic person. So when people ask me stuff, I answer. I give a lot of information. How is she sleeping? I will admit to you. Well, I have to tell you, you know, I'm a 45 year old first time dad. The advantage to that is we were able to get a night nurse. She taught us an awesome sleep pattern. So I gotta tell you, I'm sleeping great because we've really sleep trained our.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Daughter I hate this guy.

[Don LaGreca]

He.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This guy with his sleep, with his privilege. Look at him. Yeah, yeah. You know, it must be nice. You know what I had?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, we. Yeah, we had Irish twins when I was 22 and I was working two jobs. All right, you know you're gonna get that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Exactly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So don't say it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

There's no shit. I know, but then don't. That's why you got to ask a better question.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, then your answer is like, she's doing great. Thanks. Move it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Keep it. I'm not good at it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If somebody can't ask you a question of depth, why would you give them depth? You know, just keep it moving. Right. Have a sip of that, by the way.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He's not wrong. He's not wrong.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don's stay in. Very quiet right now. Just so not like you.

[Don LaGreca]

No, I gave my opinion. I had. I gave the quintessential point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that's right. The point got so.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, it was very.

[Don LaGreca]

Isn't it better to lay out? What am I gonna add? It was better than.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, he made a great point, which is that when they asked me, how am I sleeping? That's not truly asking about my daughter. It's a generic way to give credit for knowing I have a daughter.

[Don LaGreca]

I do think that at some point, after you ask. If you questions about the daughter, oh, you know, how are you doing? How's your shape?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, that's nice.

[Don LaGreca]

Because then it's like, all right, first.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Of all, the right thing to do is ask how your wife's doing.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Correct.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She's the one in recovery right now.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And then if you're a man, if you're a dad, another fellow dad, once you get through that, you quietly go. And how you hold it up, buddy, you doing all right?

[Don LaGreca]

Because it's a lot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You do a little nod because I'm not gonna lie. Guys, how you doing?

[Don LaGreca]

I do find that the advice I got from people was very revealing about their experiences, about how much they enjoyed the experience. You could tell by the advice you get how much that person enjoyed being a mother.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's great. It's a great.

[Don LaGreca]

I can't give any examples. Can't do it. This is off the arm.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is. This is another after hours podcast. This is another one of these podcasts that we do. It's just the three dads talking dad stuff.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh. Different levels. New dad, medium dad, old dad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then. Yeah, and you throw it all together. There's a lot going on here.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, it's a great point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anyways. Lot Going here on the show.

[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So for those who might be wondering why the Doors, why Riders on the.

[Don LaGreca]

Storm, Don Val Kilmer played Jim Morrison. I mean, believe it or not, it was 1991.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I find that hard to believe. But yes, that Val Kilmer with. For those who don't know, we lost him today. And I consider that like, that, I thought was a triumph. Like that performance in that movie.

[Don LaGreca]

How.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I don't remember how rated that movie was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't either. I don't.

[Don LaGreca]

But I know what IMDb did with it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I saw.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I feel like it's gonna be mediocre.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You think. You think Rotten Tomatoes didn't love it?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I think it's gonna be hovering in the middle of most if it. That's what I kind of recall.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How did you feel about it?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I didn't see it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You never saw it?

[Stephen A. Smith]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know. You need to see it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's worth seeing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, no, no. Very much so.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I know he looked a lot like Jim Morrison. I remember that from the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just his mannerisms. The whole thing was just. He really took on the role like it was phenomenal. The movie itself, which is, of course, if you think about it, pretty emblematic of Jim Morrison. It got weird.

[Don LaGreca]

It was trippy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And again, the whole desert thing, it's.

[Don LaGreca]

So funny because our conversation's sometimes come around to. On the air.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Don LaGreca]

By the way, IMDb 7.2, which is not nothing is. I do believe that people like to hate on Oliver Stone flicks. Hmm.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why is that?

[Don LaGreca]

Because he sometimes takes things a little too far.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

56% rotten tomatoes. That's not great.

[Don LaGreca]

That's not great. But you know, because everybody bashes any given Sunday. I like it, but it's a little over the top. But people don't like it. It usually gets panned. Oliver Stone movie jfk, which he took some liberties.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was long.

[Don LaGreca]

It was a long movie, but people want to kill that. Quentin Tarantino walked out of Natural Born Killers because that was his screenplay. Oliver Stone directed it, thought that he screwed it up and Oliver Stone was really upset about it. I like Natural Born Killers, but again, it's over the top. Oliver Stone, the only movie that I can think of at the top of my head that was truly really respected was Wall Street. And I don't think it was really respected until like way after the fact. Cuz I think people's knee jerk reaction to Oliver Stone is he's a bit much. Right. If Martin Scorsese does the Doors, does it the exact same way. Right. It probably gets looked upon differently because I think there was a little bit more respect around his name, but he.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wouldn'T have done it the exact same way.

[Don LaGreca]

But you know what I mean, the bashing of the door. I think people went into the movie knowing it's an Oliver Stone movie and said, I want to hate this movie.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Probably. Yeah, I guess I don't. I never go into anything, any movie like that with a preconceived notion. I just want to see the story.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, of course. But I found it to be a compelling story. But I found him playing the character like he's played some great characters in movies where he's not even the main guy.

[Don LaGreca]

Right. But this in particular, I blew Alan's mind early.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, I heard this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did not, I did not realize this.

[Don LaGreca]

That you are a big True Romance fan. It's one of my favorite.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Love that movie.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's great film.

[Don LaGreca]

You, you did not know that Val Kilmer played Elvis. Now all Elvis was, was a voice, you see reflection of him in the mirror. Because the Christian Slater character, like talk to Elvis. That was like his thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

He's a big Elvis fan and that was a big. Val Kilmer was not a nobody at the time when that movie was made. Like, so that was a huge cameo for him that you didn't even notice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's amazing. It's amazing. But that, that, that gives you the, you know, again, he can play something where you just believe that's what it is. Right. Like I think that's, that's kind of what you start when you, an actor is at its. At their best when they're playing a nonfiction character and you believe like I actually thought that Miracle. Her.

[Don LaGreca]

Brooks, Kurt Russell.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Kurt Russell. There were moments in that movie. Because you've talked to Herb Brooks before, right? You've interviewed him, you talked to him.

[Don LaGreca]

I never did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, you never did. I've met him, I've interviewed him, I've talked with him. So.

[Don LaGreca]

So you see him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's who we're talking in real. Like you see him in real life and then you see the movie and it's like there were a couple moments where wow, like he, like he's right there.

[Don LaGreca]

Joey Salvia brought this up to me and it sounded like it was completely sacrilege. And then I thought about it and I'm like, you know, it's not bad. He's like. The problem with Robert De Niro is that anytime Robert De Niro plays someone.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You see Robert De Niro. Yeah, yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

But a real. The sign of a great actor is you don't see the actor. You see who that actor's portraying. And you're right, I never. I didn't. When I watch Miracle, I don't see Kurt Russell. Like, that shows you just how well he played that. That's what Kilmer did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that's why the Doors movie, it's. I'm not seeing Val Kilmer playing.

[Don LaGreca]

And that's Jim Morrison. That's a compliment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's Jim Morrison.

[Don LaGreca]

That's a compliment. And any other movie that won't get any play, you probably will not see it. Any clips on the news. But I think he was brilliant in it, was real genius. I love that it's an 80s movie. I thought he was great. But that's probably not as respected as the Doors and Top Gun, Maverick and Top Gun and all the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a classic 80s movie.

[Don LaGreca]

I think so, yeah, that's a classic, but I don't think it gets the respect that it should. But he was. I think he was very underrated, I think.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And also his character in Top Gun, which, by the way, in Maverick, that. The fact that they bring him into that movie and let him be part of that story is great.

[Don LaGreca]

The story is that Tom Cruise made that happen and they knew that he was sick and that he had played a character that was dying, but apparently that was all Tom Cruise.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That was awesome that they found a way for him to be in it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, anyway, so play the Doors or just remember an actor from our generation, Val Kilmer, who passed away.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, it's crazy. Like head and neck cancer. Not brain or throat cancer.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Interesting.

[Don LaGreca]

Head and neck cancer.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I've never really heard of that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, so we want everybody to know that the Mets are going to take over 8:80am The Mets broadcast will at the top of the hour Here, pregame show 4:41 pitch. Their last game of the series against the Marlins.

[Don LaGreca]

But you teased something I wanted to get into.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, the Lindor thing. Yeah, well, unfortunately. Yeah, it's gonna be tough to. All right, well, we'll. If they're not gonna talk about.

[Don LaGreca]

On the pre game, so don't listen to us.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We certainly will get to that. We have Tim Legler gonna join us getting some NBA, the Carmelo Anthony stuff to talk about. Hall of Fame. There was already some people on my timeline saying not deserved. What are you talking about? So there is a lot to get to. So again, if you're on radio, jump over to 1050 to keep us on. Or if you're on the ESPN New York app, no worries. Just stay right there with us. If you aren't sure what to do, just get the app and you can stay with us. And we will take you from here. So that is coming on in just a few minutes. The Mets next. We'll see you on 1050. But first, Alan Hahn here to tell you about my friends at Bath Fitter. They're going to remodel a bath in my house and we could not be more excited. Updating a bath by our pool, converting the tub to a shower for the summer. Bath Fitter works fast and delivers the highest quality work without delay. Bath Fitter is a permanent solution. A one piece seamless wall for a watertight fit and a lifetime guarantee. 40 years in the business with millions of happy customers and right now you can save up to $500 and start designing your bath like I am. Visit bathfitter.com for more details. There's only one bath fitter.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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