Hour 1: Yankees Shutout Again

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 1: Yankees Shutout Again

Release Date: June 17, 2025
Hosts: Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Episode Title: Hour 1: Yankees Shutout Again

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Introduction

In this episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg, the trio delves deep into the New York Yankees' recent offensive struggles. The conversation is lively, candid, and filled with insightful analysis, reflecting the hosts' passion for the game and their unwavering commitment to dissecting every aspect of the Yankees' performance.

Yankees' Offensive Slump

The primary focus of the episode centers on the Yankees' troubling offensive drought. The team has failed to score a run in 20 innings over their last five games, including a 1-0 shutout against the Kansas City Royals in the previous week. This dry spell has raised concerns among fans and analysts alike about the team's ability to maintain their top position in the division and contend for the championship.

Don LaGreca (00:30): "Don, you know, maybe they can go pee on each other. That'd be great. Han, there's a lot of women out there that want you."

Note: This quote showcases the hosts' humorous banter, setting the tone before diving into serious analysis.

Player Performance Analysis

Aaron Judge

The discussion intensively critiques Aaron Judge's recent performance. Despite his status as one of the premier hitters in baseball, Judge's inability to generate runs has become a significant liability for the Yankees.

Alan Hahn (06:21): "It feels like it just is Judge or nothing. If Judge isn't the catalyst, they can't generate anything."

The hosts express frustration with Judge's slump, questioning whether his struggles indicate deeper issues within the team's batting strategy.

Giancarlo Stanton and Other Hitters

Giancarlo Stanton also faces scrutiny for his performance. While known for his power hitting, recent outings have been underwhelming, contributing to the overall offensive decline.

Peter Rosenberg (15:15): "Volpe can go out there and on a good year, hit 15, 20 home runs... I want him to drive the ball, put it in play."

The conversation extends to other key players like Bellinger and Goldschmidt, highlighting their recent downturns despite their previous contributions to the team.

Management and Organizational Challenges

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the Yankees' management, specifically manager Aaron Boone and General Manager Brian Cashman. The hosts debate whether Boone's strategies and Cashman's player acquisitions are aligned with the team's success.

Alan Hahn (37:49): "Now, are you trying to win a championship? Of course you're trying to win a championship. But the maniacal chase for a championship doesn't exist anymore in the organization."

Peter Rosenberg (35:56): "What we're willing to give you is the third highest payroll."

The hosts argue that despite having one of the highest payrolls, the Yankees' organizational approach lacks the urgency and accountability seen in other franchises. They question whether the team's spending is yielding the desired results, especially in critical games.

Historical Context and Trust Issues

The hosts draw parallels between the current Yankees and their past performances, emphasizing a recurring pattern of fluctuating success. Trust in the organization's ability to consistently perform at a championship level has eroded among fans.

Alan Hahn (21:12): "You have to come to reality with this team and who they are."

Peter Rosenberg (34:37): "Well, I'm going to tell you when the moment is... players run the show."

This erosion of trust is linked to the Yankees' inconsistent approach to hitting and game strategy, particularly in high-stakes moments.

Future Outlook and Playoffs Implications

Looking ahead, the hosts express skepticism about the Yankees' chances in the postseason if the offensive struggles persist. They discuss the potential impact on playoff performance and the likelihood of the team repeating last year's success.

Peter Rosenberg (38:07): "The best team doesn't always necessarily win. It's the hottest team."

Alan Hahn (38:03): "We asked it yesterday. They look at championship. Do you trust them as a team?"

The conversation underscores the importance of the Yankees finding consistency and adapting their strategies to navigate the remainder of the season successfully.

Listener Calls and Perspectives

Towards the end of the episode, listener interactions provide additional viewpoints. Fans share their concerns and hopes, reflecting the broader sentiment surrounding the team's performance.

Caller from Pennsylvania (42:26): "As a Yankee fan right now... everybody just needs to relax and just don't hit the panic meter just yet."

This segment highlights the community aspect of the podcast, allowing fans to voice their thoughts and engage directly with the hosts.

Conclusion

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg deliver a comprehensive and passionate analysis of the New York Yankees' current struggles. Through detailed player evaluations, critiques of management decisions, and reflections on the team's historical patterns, the episode offers a nuanced perspective on what lies ahead for one of baseball's most storied franchises. The hosts balance humor with serious discourse, making the discussion both engaging and informative for listeners.

Notable Quotes:

• Alan Hahn (06:21): "It feels like it just is Judge or nothing. If Judge isn't the catalyst, they can't generate anything."
• Peter Rosenberg (15:15): "Volpe can go out there and on a good year, hit 15, 20 home runs... I want him to drive the ball, put it in play."
• Alan Hahn (37:49): "Now, are you trying to win a championship? Of course you're trying to win a championship. But the maniacal chase for a championship doesn't exist anymore in the organization."
• Peter Rosenberg (38:07): "The best team doesn't always necessarily win. It's the hottest team."

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Transcript

[Alan Hahn]

I think you're on mute.

[Don LaGreca]

Workday starting to sound the same.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think you're on mute.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Don, you know, maybe they can go pee on each other. That'd be great. Han, there's a lot of women out there that want you.

[Alan Hahn]

Alan and Rosenberg.

[Michael Kay]

Give me the porn. For God's sake.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This isn't North Dakota. This is New York.

[Alan Hahn]

This is Don, Han and Rosenberg.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The best threesome I've ever heard on.

[Alan Hahn]

880 ESPN and the ESPN New York.

[Peter Rosenberg]

App 3 o' clock in the big city. Don, Han in Rosenberg on another rainy overcast garbage Tuesday, weather wise. But we'll try to brighten, brighten your day a little bit with some sports.

[Michael Kay]

And such before you start poo pooing the filth that is the weather. I just want to say that as much as we have hated this weather and it's been ridiculous, I don't want anyone to think that's going to preclude me from complaining when it's in the high 90s next week. Because I will still complain about that. I will complain about both. I will complain about the weather being too cold and then I will complain about it being too hot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You like to complain.

[Michael Kay]

I just have to be honest with you guys.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what we do. It's hard to get the first thing you go to. Like, what's the, like the first go to? Yeah, you know, like elevators, you know, waiting, whatever it is like standing around. It's always the weather, isn't it? Like you always go there. It's almost the most common thing you could talk to any other human being about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Changes the mood.

[Michael Kay]

It is, it is. It's a big deal whether how many.

[Alan Hahn]

People are going to disagree, right?

[Michael Kay]

That. Well, it's the safest subject in the world.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Shut ins, don't care about the weather.

[Alan Hahn]

No. So if I say like, yeah, boy, the weather's been really crappy lately. I don't know. I love it. I guess I have air conditioning. I have controlled climate. Every day. I don't know what you're complaining about. It is, that's when you know, walk away, psycho.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Put on the ac.

[Michael Kay]

See? Perfect again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So that's the. Because it's, it's all about just the mood and it's dark, and you don't see the tops of the skyscrapers as you're driving into the city. It's the middle of June, and I got to worry, is the Yankee game going to get played tonight? Is it going to rain? What do I wear walking out of the house? I got to have a jacket. I went to the gym today wearing a jacket. It's the middle of June, and I'm wearing a windbreaker because it's 60 degrees outside. But then I bring that windbreaker to work, and I end up leaving it at work because it's 75 when I leave work. Well, in your case, it gets stolen and. Or somebody else wears it home, decides they don't like it, bring it back, and empty the pockets out like a thief. I mean, this is what happens with the weather. That's why you. You. You laugh at me before I go to bed. I want to know what the weather's gonna be like the next day. I want to know if I'm gonna be able to do anything.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm the same way, though. I'm with you, Don. It's the first thing I check is the weather app. When I wake up, I wanna know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What to wear, how to feel about what's going on here. And yes, I will complain when it's 90 degrees, but you know what? When it's late June and it's 90 degrees, it's supposed to be that way. It's not supposed to be 60 in the middle of June. Not supposed to be. So I'm just aggravated about it.

[Alan Hahn]

It won't last for long.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

How. How does everybody feel about the video element to the show that people love being pushed out there?

[Peter Rosenberg]

People love it.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I think there was a lot of people that missed us on tv. There was a misunderstanding that we are now a televised vehicle.

[Alan Hahn]

Not yet.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not yet. Then we're. We're getting to that point. But now we've caught up with the Joneses as far as having a video element for some of the things that we're doing during the course of the day. And I think people have really loved it. You had a great Yankee monologue. We talked about the jet skiing in the East River.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I didn't know if we needed that one posted.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. Listen, it just shows you. But I'll tell you what, varietals.

[Alan Hahn]

I'll tell you what. How's that Yankee rant aging?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's aging pretty well.

[Alan Hahn]

Like a fine wine, I would say. Well, not that I watched last night, hoping for it. I definitely wasn't. But it all was happening.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know I'm going to tell you. No, I dare you. No, I'm going to tell you because I think I know you and I. And I think I know the life of a talk show host, that it did aggravate you because you're a Yankee fan. You want to see the Yankees win.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But the positive byproduct of what happened last night is you being right. And everybody wants their point to be heard. Everybody wants their point to be valid. And now that the team has not literally scored a run in 2018 innings, 20 innings without a run, the Bronx Bombers, the New York Yankees have not scored a run in 20 innings. Going back to the 1 nothing win against the Royals last week, they have scored five runs in their last five games.

[Alan Hahn]

That's not good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not good. Now I'm like, am I worried? No. Because I still think the Yankees are the best team in the division. I think they're going to win this division because Michael made a great point. Here's why Tampa is not going to make it, because they're going to be playing in 100 degrees with 100% humidity in an open air stadium in Tampa during the course of the summer. It's going to wear them out. They're going to get rain delays. Games starting at 10 o' clock have to play double headers because of rain outs. That's going to hurt the Rays. Red Sox just traded their best player. And the Blue Jays have been a yo yo basically for the last decade. They look like the best team in baseball and then the worst team in baseball the next week. But I do see signs of where this is the Yankee team that we saw for like a month and a half last year that couldn't hit. This is the Yankee team that we see in the postseason that all of a sudden the offense goes away. But they still went to the World Series last year. So as far as being overly concerned. No, but rather than the fundies, the fact is is this team does have a tendency offensively to disappear. And when it looks like this, it looks like a team that it's going to be really hard to win a championship if we see this more often than not. And right now over the last five games, it's been putrid.

[Alan Hahn]

It feels like it just is judge or nothing. That if judge isn't the catalyst, nothing, they, they can't generate anything. And it's not like, wow, judges hit a slump. Maybe it's that for the last couple of weeks now Everybody's been in a slump. We haven't noticed because Judge has just been otherworldly. But now that he's had, you know, he's human. Everyone else is now more exposed. Bellinger, another bad night. 3 for 24 in his last six games, by the way, boys, Trent Grisham, who looked like he was a power hitter early in the season and was giving you a lot. He's given you literally nothing over the last, what, 20 something games. Goldschmidt, again, like his last 15, 16 games, he's been under 200. Ben Rice, he did a decent yesterday, but like, he has not been hitting again like he was to start the year. Lemayhue, I mean, I hate saying it because the guy was such a great hitter, but doesn't he look like he's cooked? Does. Does he not look done? He's one of first, last 11. The positive, because I want to have a positive.

[Michael Kay]

Give us something.

[Alan Hahn]

Clark Schmidt was brilliant.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he was the pitcher.

[Alan Hahn]

That's another. And that's another really good start from him. And we didn't know like you didn't. That was one of the variables when it comes to the rotation is what is he going to realize potential. The Yankees believed in him. Can he find it? And he looks like he's found it. He was excellent on the mound and he. And all for.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not.

[Alan Hahn]

That part, of course, is the most frustrating of all. And there were some plays, some hits. There was a lot of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I.

[Alan Hahn]

You're gonna laugh at me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Never.

[Alan Hahn]

I did feel like there was some bad luck last night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, no, well, that happens.

[Alan Hahn]

That happens, Susan. But. And absolutely right, Peter. It's all that stuff's magnified when your offense is struggling. But there were a couple of, like, oh, that's. That's on like sliding. Was it Dominguez sliding into third on the hit and run and how the ball just timed perfectly and he's tagged.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Couldn't have timed it better.

[Alan Hahn]

Come on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's so.

[Alan Hahn]

But the Clark Schmidt thing is my reason to not be that pissed off today because he looked good. And you just gotta feel like, look, look. Can. Can. Will Warren give you a good start tonight? Can you get after Hendricks? Can you just somebody somehow just generate some offense and get that dugout feeling better? Because right now there's not a damn person that has a bat in his hand that has that. That has any kind of swagger right now. Somebody's got to bring. Although Stanton did give you. I mean, that. That was an absolute laser off his bat as a ground Ball, but it was a laser. That's one guy that maybe could put a little juice back into that dugout. We'll see.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He could, but. But then that becomes a problem because now that he's back, yeah, Goldschmidt sits. A.300 hitter, a former MVP sits now, he did get in a bat. Got a couple of a bats, actually. And then, you know, and then some days it's going to be Bellinger that's going to sit or Dominguez is going to sit. Rice. There's going to be the old. Remember, Peter, the old rest roulette. Because I love players. It's a time, you know, and, you know, Michael brought it up during the course of his show about how that might tick some players off. You know, Bellinger is a former mvp. I'm sure he doesn't want to sit and lose at bats. Goldschmidt, former mvp, doesn't want to sit. Doesn't want to lose at batsman, you know, so it becomes a bit of a nice problem to have, as they call it. But it still could be an issue when you've got like, too many players and good players are sitting. And, you know, I think it's a good thing for Goldschmidt to sit because he's going to be 38 in September. So make sure that you get Goldschmidt healthy and raking when you need him in the postseason and not a guy that's going to be a tired, late 30s ball player that's not going to be able to contribute. So I understand the frustration also. I don't know how you felt about it, Alan. I mean, I know Hunter Strickland, going back to his giant days. He's kind of a hothead. He's at the end of his career. He's bounced around a bit here towards the end of his career. I'm not swinging at the first pitch. I got bases loaded. I'm going to take a pitch. And it wasn't like the pitch he swung at was like a hangar that he absolutely had to hit. And he grounds out the third base. Game over. I'd like their, you know, take a pitch, wait for your pitch. Maybe, maybe, maybe he gets in a little trouble. You end up walk for them not to score. Four different times they had a runner at second base with nobody out, including the 10th and 11th innings with the, with the Manford man. But there was just so many opportunities there. If I'm Volpe, I just felt like. And in the moment, not, not after the fact, but like in the moment, I'm like, I think he should take a pitch here. I was really surprised he swung at the first, first pitch and it was game over.

[Alan Hahn]

I thought Jazz had a terrible at bat to begin. I think it was the bottom of the ninth. Awful at bat. Just jumping out of his shoes, trying to, like, you could see it. Trying to win the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And even like Todd Frazier was. Was almost like imploring him like, yo, yo, like, like just take. Wait for your pitch. Like, it's. That's the undisciplined part of it all that frustrates you as a fan. And you mentioned the Volpe one as well. Just not. But, but boom, boy. I'll tell you what, there's. God bless them. When asked about it. Do we have the audio? I love the answer. When asked about the Volpe, you know, swinging on the first pitch. And it's so typical of baseball because it's the easiest thing to say in baseball. Well, sometimes the first pitch is the best pitch to hit. Sometimes it's right. Like, sometimes that's the right one and you don't want to let it go. Which you can't argue. You cannot argue because sometimes it is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And here's what, here's what Boone said.

[Aaron Boone]

Not necessarily first pitch is the best one to hit sometimes. So I didn't see if it was off the plate. Not a good pitch to go after. That might be the case. But we got to be ready to go there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I get that.

[Alan Hahn]

How do you feel about that? You can't argue with him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I understand that. But he's not Judge. Okay. He's not Stanton. See, you brought it up with Jazz and I'm going to bring it up a Volpe, too. I know Volpe's got like eight home runs and Jazz has got a bunch. And. And guys like Grisham's got a ton early, although he's kind of tailed off that it's the Yankees mentality is always been home run. That's why they don't situationally hit well, because sometimes it doesn't take a home run. You got a runner at second base. You know, in extra innings, just get a ground ball through the middle, game's tied. Right. And then you can kind of work it. Everybody can hit the solo home run to be the hero. Yeah, it looks great. On Sports Center, Volpe hits a grand slam home run walk off. Yeah. Everybody celebrates. He gets the Gatorade dunk. While being interviewed by Meredith after the game. But sometimes just working account, stealing a run with a walk, you Know, forcing Hunter Strickland, maybe throw a wild pitch, something, instead of, I'm going to jump at the first pitch because I want to smack 1, 400ft. That's not Volpe's game. Jazz swinging out of his shoes. I know you have the ability to home runs, especially with a short porch. That's not your game, man. You'll hit home runs, but I just want you to drive the ball, put it in play. And when you get home runs, you get home runs. Judge. I want him to hit it to the moon, Stan. I want him to hit it to the moon. Goldschmidt, Bellinger, their home run hitters do that. Volpe, even though he can't hit home runs, for me, the mentality's gotta be work the count. Get Strickland in trouble here instead of, you know, jumping on the first fastball. You see, and the reason why I win the argument, it was a weak ground ball to third. If he had hit. If he had tattooed it to the wall like. Like Bellinger's hit that went to the. Went to the warning track. He could say, I just missed it. It was a harmless ground ball on an outside pitch. He tried to pull, and it was an easy out. And remember, the Yankees got the break two on the air at second base, like, so put the damn ball in play. Good things can happen instead of trying to hit the ball 500ft.

[Michael Kay]

But this, this is literally. And this is why Allen's freakout yesterday was. Well, mild freak out really aged well, because that's exactly, Alan, how you have felt. Every time they get to the playoffs, it just seems like they never get traffic on the bases. When they're there, they're always sitting there searching, and you're praying that someone can hit something out. The only person who's consistent. And ironically, it happened last night. Alan, it's perfect for you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who's.

[Michael Kay]

Who's two for four? Giancarlo Stanton. It's really like a playoff game.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, well, that's what they said it looked like. Looked like playoff. Gary Stanton hits.

[Michael Kay]

No one else does. In this case, Jazz hit a little bit too. But everybody else is reaching.

[Alan Hahn]

And in the big moments, you're just look. Especially when you have the runner at second. It just seems very simple to do. And they actually did try. I know there were a couple of hit and run opportunities that just. It didn't work. Again, the one was just bad luck, but I think it was Goldschmidt that went warning track. Maybe the ball just wasn't gonna get out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Although The Bellinger. Right. I think that was the.

[Alan Hahn]

Was that Bell. I'm sorry, Bellinger. And it just does feel like. It feels like it's an all or nothing kind of offense at times. And then there's other times where it doesn't feel like that. I. That's. I guess that's the part I get frustrated with, is that the days that they are, like, when they're in a good rhythm, like they were through May, you're watching them. And even early June, and you're watching them, it's just like, okay, that's baseball. What they're doing is baseball. It's not just, hey, they hit seven home runs today. They hit five home runs. I know we had that game early in the season, and the torpedo bats became the big story where they just set a record. But that was an April baseball game that we all know. You never know what's going to happen in April. But it's more or less when this offense starts to go into a slump. It feels like the default is the upward swing and try to put it out of the building.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Rather than get it in play, get the runner over, little things like that. And I think that's me. I'm not smart enough to know, is that really what happens? Do they default to that? Or is that just what it looks like?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just.

[Alan Hahn]

Because of how they're being pitched.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the game. I just think that everybody. You saw the way Jeff. I don't care what he was told. I don't care what the philosophy is of the team. Jazz want to hit a home run. You could see the way he was swinging.

[Alan Hahn]

No doubt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No doubt about it. And he can. He's capable of doing that. But sometimes I think you just got to stay on type again. I got no problem if Judge or Bellinger or Goldschmidt or Stanton do that. That's who they are. That's in their DNA. But I'm sorry. Yeah. Volpe can go out there and on a good year, hit 15, 20 home runs, because that's kind of where the game is right now. But if I got Anthony Bolt of Volpe up there, two outs, bases loaded, where a dribbler up the middle through the hole wins the game. I'd rather him focus on that than jumping on the first fastball he sees, hoping that he's going to hit a home run. You know, And I just. I wish that would be the philosophy of the guys that aren't the home run hitters. All right. And. And you do have some tweeners like Jazz is a tweener. He's a guy that can hit a bunch of home runs, but I don't know if that's what his game is about. That's not how he should style himself. Now, should Boone remind these guys of it? You know, I don't. These are veterans. There's no, you know, there's not a lot of kids out there. I mean, Volpe's a kid, but he's in his third year. You know, I just think the message to be, guys, just win the game. All right? Don't look, try to be fancy with it.

[Alan Hahn]

Right? Just find a way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just find a way to win a game. They're putting a runner at second base. All right? And it was again, bad luck for the Yankees.

[Alan Hahn]

And was it DJ that was like, they were talking about bunting and then he ended up hitting like a squibber that went foul, right? Like. And then it was a waste of that back because they ended up striking out, I believe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right?

[Alan Hahn]

And it's like just. No, that's also the. No one can bunt on this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, nobody can. And it's not something.

[Alan Hahn]

And that's been, we've been talking about that for years. But this is nothing new.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But when you talk about the accountability thing again, The Yankees are 1 and 5 in extra inning games. And they're also, they're, they're, they're the worst team in baseball since the institution of the Manford man on the road. Right? So that they've been able to win at home because you get the last licks, you know what you got to do.

[Alan Hahn]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And they had the opportunity in the tent. They, they held the Angels off the board. Just need a run.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the Angels didn't break it open in the top of the 11th inning, just needed a run to extend the game. They're putting a runner at second base. Now. You talk about bad luck. Who's leading off? It's Judge. Of course. You're going to walk Judge. You're not going to let Judge hit in that situation. You're going to, you want to set up the double play, take the bat out of the best hitter in baseball's hands. It just stunk that he let off the inning. You know, if there's no man for man, then you got to pitch the judge. You're not going to put the tying run on, but because there's an open base there and you want to set up for the double play, take the bat out of his hands and nobody else could do anything. They couldn't move the runners over with an out or a fly ball or a sacrifice. And they end up one of the best offensive teams in baseball in their own building against an angel team that just got swept by the Orioles. And you can't score in the 10th or 11th inning when they're giving you a runner in scoring position to start the inning. Why are you thinking about home runs there? That should be a gift. That should be a given that you.

[Alan Hahn]

Score the run one for 18 with.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Runners and score one for 18.

[Alan Hahn]

And you. And you. You know, like, you would think for a team, a high offensive team, a power hitting team, that a runner on second is almost like candy to a baby, right? Like. Like, like it's so easy hitting for the Yankees. It should be. I mean, bang, went off the wall and we. And the game's over. Like. Like now you don't have to hit it out, just get it in the outfield. Just get. Like, they can't even do that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can't do it.

[Alan Hahn]

Because think about it. Deep fly ball gets in the third. Deep fly ball, he's home. Goodbye. Like, they can't even. Like, that doesn't. And I know, I'm told by smart baseball people that I talk to about this stuff because I'm not smart enough. And I always say, like, why does this happen? Well, they're pitching them so that they can't hit the ball up. They're doing like, they know what they want to do. They're pitching that way. And it's like, okay, but how come everybody else works? Like, I don't understand why they can't figure it out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. No, but I can understand the frustration. Am I overly concerned about it? Again, I'm not. Because they, they looked miserable for like 36 games. If you remember the middle of last year, couldn't get losing, still ended up going to the World Series.

[Alan Hahn]

You're right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it is.

[Michael Kay]

But the problem is. But Alan, the crazy part is they do that, they look completely stagnant. They somehow make the World Series, then they get the World Series stagnant again.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, again, that. That's the part is, is that's why I said yesterday that the underbelly. It is the ugly of this team, that when it reveals itself, it worries you because it's the same ugly. Like, we've seen this. That's the, like, it's almost like the bad habit that never breaks. It's almost like the friend of yours that you feel like has changed, but every now and then you see that dark side come back and you're like, no, no, you haven't changed. You're still like this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right?

[Michael Kay]

You didn't actually do the work to change.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I can't trust you because it's there. You're just hiding. You hide it well. But it comes out at the worst times. And that's why I think what it is. Maybe that's what it is. It's a trust factor with this Yankee team. Maybe that's my biggest problem. Maybe that's what Yankee fans have to come to, come to grips with because there are some that are just the blindly loyal. It's the Yankees. I believe in them. As if your belief in them is going to make it make a difference in their lives. Like you got to understand like they, they're going to do what they do regardless of how you feel about them. But you have to come to reality with this team and who they are. And all I'm saying is how much we asked it yesterday. They look at championship. Do you trust them as a team? Because you've seen them play great and you've seen them play like crap. We're right now in the play like crap mode. Do you trust them that they could get, not get back to the World Series, get there and then win this thing? Do you trust them?

[Peter Rosenberg]

1-800-9193776 Want to hear from you. I've got more to say about this. Mets start a series with the Braves. They're going to play the Braves seven times over the next 10 games. They've got seven with the Braves, three against the Phillies. Over the next 10 games, all in division. They've got a chance to bury the Atlanta Braves. They can win five or six of these seven games. They can finish off their rival. But the Mets have always had trouble in Atlanta. So they start the series tonight. By the way, the Oklahoma City Thunder a win away from their first title as the Thunder. So we'll get into that. That was an ugly game to watch.

[Alan Hahn]

It wasn't, wasn't pretty. Halliburton, usual stuff. Big news on Halliburton though coming out here from Shams. We of the update people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We're going to update you on that also the NHL, they can award a Stanley cup tonight. Down building.

[Alan Hahn]

Donnie. It's in the building.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's in the building. Panthers and Oilers. Panthers have a chance to wrap it up. Jackie Redmond, who does a great job on TNT and also working with Peter on the WWE will join us coming up at 4:10 at 4:30 we got talk about a Tuesday.

[Michael Kay]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

At 6:00 clock we got ENN and then at 6:30 we got Mets baseball. All of it happening here on ESPN.

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Michael Kay]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Michael Kay]

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[Alan Hahn]

He was just watching that fourth quarter. The turnovers was just massive for the Pacers, but it wasn't necessarily because of him. It was because they had him off the ball. Because he had to be off the ball he couldn't. He couldn't bring the ball up the floor against the, you know, against defense. They were playing him off the ball. So it's like, you know, Nemhard doesn't, you know, he's been a good player, but that's not the guy you really want handling the basketball, bringing up the floor, making pass making decisions. And he made some tough decisions. They had four straight turnovers. The game turned right there like they made it a game. But Halliburton's got to be like, he's got to be your best player, and he's got to be at close to 100%. And that one drive, you could see it. He was in a lot of pain. He wasn't the same since, but he was on the floor. So if you're on the floor, you're good enough to play, Right? And so now we'll. We'll see. You know, the calf strain thing, you don't want to mess with in the NBA, as we know. And remember Kevin Durant, that's what they said in the Finals. Calf strain. He played. There was some concern. That's why they're getting this mri, because if it's showing any type of indication that there's some damage, they might have to shut him down. Because what you don't want, right, is what happened to kd. And now you lose them for a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Whole year, and then you could be looking at an Eastern Conference guy square, you know? No. No Tatum all year for Boston, no Halliburton all year for Indiana. You talk about opening up the Eastern Conference, Right? Dear God.

[Michael Kay]

Well, that would be a good Lord.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right now we're talking about the Yankees and their struggles offensively. Here's Aaron Boone on their inability to hit as of late.

[Aaron Boone]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Everything.

[Aaron Boone]

I mean, right now, when you're not scoring runs and they're keeping us in the ballpark, you know, tonight was a little bit of. A little bit of both. Thought we hit a number of balls on the screws. Even they're late. You know, Cody just misses a couple to right. Goldie stepped on that ball to left center. We were barreling some balls up. But then. But that said, you know, we're not punching any across, not hitting home run. And we had a couple situations. You know, we could have produced a run there late, and we're able to take advantage of it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. And I just wonder if we had Aaron as a weekly like we did a few years ago. When do you begin to change the approach? I know you are what you Are, and you're analytically driven, launch.

[Alan Hahn]

You guys ask him that once before, though, you know, you guys have definitely asked him that. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I, and I just think the answer always is, is that this is, this is what works. Because this is the frustrating thing about the Yankees. They're still in first place. They're still one of the best teams in baseball. And when all said and done, barring injury, like what happened a couple of years ago when they finished 82 and 80 and out of the playoffs, they're going to be in the postseason, they're going to be battling for a chance to win a championship. Usually when there are managers or coaches or general managers that their necks are on the line is when you go a stretch without making the playoffs or a lot of first round exit. This team just went to the World Series last year and played a lot like this during the regular season and still made it there. So that's what just pulls your hair out, is you know what they're capable of doing and at the end of the day, they're going to be there. But it also is enough to tell you, because it exists, it'll rear its ugly head at the worst time and stop you from winning the championship.

[Michael Kay]

And yet it's never enough. It's never bad enough for major change ever. So that thing you're waiting for the bottom to fall out so we can finally go, all right, we're changing. It's not happening.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, because unlike, you know, what happened with the Knicks where, you know, Tibbs is out despite going to the conference finals and Peter DeBoer is out in Dallas despite going to the conference final six of the last seven years, the Yankees seem to be fine because at the end of the day, Hal looks at his team and says, we're in first place. What are we worried about? Went to the World Series last year. What are we worried about?

[Alan Hahn]

Is that logical?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it's logical if that is your finish line, like the Yankee fan goes under the old George way of we're not winning championships. You're like this Allen, that you're concerned that the way they've been playing over the last five games is going to be the reason why they don't win a championship. Yeah, and I contend. Well, you're going to, you're going to be in a position to compete for a championship. The fans say, well, that's, that's a fireable offense because we're the New York Yankees and we're supposed to win championships and we haven't won A championship. Since 2009. And Boone was brought here to do what Girardi did, is win a championship. But he was supposed to do it after Girardi failed in 2017 and hasn't been able to do it. And Brian hasn't built a team good enough to win. Why? These guys have jobs for life where you see really good head coaches and managers in other organizations get let go for a lot less. And unfortunately, the Yankees obviously don't have that mantra anymore. The pretense. What am I supposed to assume, Alan? Has anybody been held accountable for not winning a world series since 2009 other than Joe Girardi, who went to within a step of going to the World Series? You make a fair point, you know. So I'm left to assume that the powers that be with the New York Yankees, although they'll cry in their pillow when the season is over and say, we feel for you guys. We want to win a championship just as bad as you do. They do. They want to win a championship. I know Hal Steinbrenner. He wants to win, but it's not the mission statement. Because if it was the mission statement, there would be heads rolling right now for everything that's happened over the last decade or so. It hasn't, you know, Instead, Aaron Boone got a contract extension for going to the World Series. He's not going to lose his job. Brian Cashman continues to get renewed because they. Because they make the playoffs every year and they finish above.500 and they usually win a couple of rounds and they don't embarrass themselves and they still sell out the building and they're still relevant, while other franchises like the jets, the Giants have embarrassed themselves and the Rangers have completely collapsed and the Knicks haven't put their best foot forward over the last couple of weeks. And it seems like every franchise has their time in the mud. The Yankees have not had that. So I'm left to assume that the powers that be are completely content with where the Yankees are right now. Thus no one loses their job. Tell me I'm wrong.

[Michael Kay]

It's going to be hard to prove Don wrong.

[Alan Hahn]

He's not wrong.

[Michael Kay]

I don't see how you could. This is where we are. It's where we've been for a long time. Will there come a moment? Could there be a breaking point? Because you would think short of having everything just collapse, which we just said is not going to happen, wouldn't you have thought that the impact of the inning that shall not be named, wouldn't you think, Don? Maybe that Implosion would have been so dramatic that you go, you know what? This is not happening anymore. We're making a change. But it didn't. So what's going to be the moment you have an epic collapse like that? When's the moment?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I'm going to tell you when the moment is. Because we're in the 21st century and the way that sports are run is the players run the show. So why do you think Tibbs is out of a job? Players didn't want him to be the coach. They were significant enough. The owner heard it, $830 million to make them happy. Why is Joe Girardi out of a job? Because he didn't look great in post game press conferences. He held Sanchez accountable for not playing well. Believe that. Maybe the players are like, hey, maybe it's time for a new voice. Why is Pete DeBoer out? Oh, well, because they couldn't get him over the hump Allen in Dallas, back to back losses to Edmonton. No, it was the way he handled the Jake Ottinger situation. And don't be shocked if during the exit meeting some of the players said, you know what, maybe he's not the guy for us. You know when the turning point happens, when a guy like Aaron Judge goes, I don't know if Boone's the guy anymore. You know when Cole says, you know what, I don't know, maybe Boonie's voice isn't really heard in that room anymore. I think that's what it is, is that we look at these organizations as well. They're really forward thinking. They think they can get somebody better. No, it's usually the players during the exit meeting saying, I don't know if he's our guy. And if that ever happens to Boone, then I think he'd be shown the door. But until then, players are happy buildings full, flush with cash.

[Michael Kay]

Oh, the cash is rolling.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Playoffs. Where's the problem, guys?

[Alan Hahn]

That's all we're doing, Don. So then what's about. What about yesterday what I said was wrong then?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I just, I never said you were wrong. In totality, you. You are allowed to just have a bad couple of games, right? So I think. But now listen, five games, averaging a run a game, 20 innings without scoring a run. Yeah, it's a bit of an issue, but what I would counter and say, they look like this for like 30 some odd games last year still went to the World Series. So we both could be right. Alan, you have the right to be concerned. I have the right to say let's see how this plays out. It's baseball, Susan. It's a long season. Teams are going to struggle. The Phillies just lost eight of nine. Right. And yet they're still right up the Mets back in the National League East. The Dodgers haven't looked like world beaters this year. Their leads only two, despite having the highest payroll in the history of baseball. Right. So I think you have a right to file away a little bit of a concern. But at the same time, it is a very small sample size. The team overall has been very good. These five games have not been good. But has this been what the Yankees have been all year?

[Alan Hahn]

So no, they haven't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So that's my counter to what you said.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes, and I get what you're saying. And it sort of just does perfectly play into what we've seen over the last decade of Yankee baseball. I guess what I'm talking more about is. I'm talking about. I know. I almost already know that for them, they have now more of a. Of the mindset of when you get to the final four in any sport, and I say this all the time, and I've heard this by many executives, you've had a great year. It's really hard to be one of the four remaining teams left in your sport.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

And that's where you look at it. Okay, it was a good year. Now, are you trying to win a championship? Of course you're trying to win a championship. But the maniacal chase for a championship doesn't exist anymore in the organization, I think is what you're trying to say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes. Based on actions speak louder than words.

[Alan Hahn]

Y. Yes. And I guess for me as a fan, if you don't want to accept it, you all looking at a team that is still one of the best teams in baseball. So all you now have to get come to grips with when you watch them play, do they give you this vibe of a team that you think could win a championship? And what you saw the start of the season was like a team that looked like, yeah, this team's good. I mean, they remember we were saying it they might be better off without Soto because it gave them more depth in their lineup. It gave them a starting pitching that they desperately needed and didn't know they needed at the time, but. But now you know they did because of the cold injury. So I'm looking at a team that when you look at the rest of the sport and you say, yeah, they can win a championship because they've got a lot of talent, but I'm talking about when they're in the moment of truth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. Which is not.

[Alan Hahn]

You trust them in the moment of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Truth and I can understand you not trusting them. We got a long way to go before we get to October. 1-800-919-3776. A lot of people want to chime in on this, so we'll get to your calls. Coming up next, it's Don Hahn and Rosenberg on ESPN New York.

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Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast.

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Caller]

Hey fellas, thanks for taking my call.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Always.

[Caller]

As a Yankee fan right now I've been through this before so I'm just going to woo saw. I'm a put on my patient hat and I'm just going to wait till they go through this. The great thing is that I believe that we got a break coming up soon and we can restart, you know, after the break and just hopefully everybody comes out of whatever they going through right now. So I think at this point everybody just needs to relax and just don't hit the panic meter just yet. So I think, I think they're going to be just fine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Chase. I think they're in the midst of 16 consecutive games without a day off. So they've got a break coming but it's not around the corner. So yeah, I guess, Alan, this is a good time in June and not like in a best of five series or best of seven series where it kind of goes away. Otherwise you'd be out. But it's a little early to be tired, right It's a little early to be like sucking wind, but also, it's a lot of. It's a lot of days without any days off. So we'll have to just wait and see. You hate to say that, but that's what you left to do, is just wait and see where this goes.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the frustrating part of a baseball season, is you're just not. You don't know how to respond to anything right. Like when the team gets hot, you don't know how to respond to it. When a team goes to a slump, you're just constantly told, oh, it's. It's just how the season goes. Don't overreact. Well, how do I react? That. What am I supposed to do?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, yeah, that's like, I just am seeing.

[Alan Hahn]

You said it perfectly last segment, Don. You're seeing what. What they looked like at the worst of times. At the end, you saw it. And that is what I'm seeing again. And I never wanted to see that team come back. That's the problem. That's what gets you concerned. It's not that they've lost a bunch in a row, that they've only scored five runs in the last five games. It's not about that. Because I do agree that teams go through slumps. It's what it looks like and why it looks similar to past issues that the team has had, especially in the biggest moments of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But every team goes through it. There isn't a juggernaut right now. And even if there were, you know, we've seen, you know, the 116 win Mariners not even get to the World Series. What right we had. It was. It was just for fun. But we had Jeff passing on yesterday. But what did he say? It was just in passing. But he's like, then you get to the postseason and then it's a crapshoot, like, who's going to be hot, who's going to get hurt? Like, that's kind of the way it all ends up playing out. The best team doesn't always necessarily win. It's the hottest team. So maybe they're getting this out of the way now. They get hot in the postseason, get the right matchups, but right now there's no perfect team. The Dodgers have sunk more money into this team than any other team in the history of baseball. They're in first place, but only by two games. There are times they haven't looked great. Padres are only, what, like, seven games above.500? You know that the Phillies just lost eight of nine the Mets have lost three in a row. So there's a. It's a long stretch, man. We dissect it every day, but sometimes we just gotta. We just gotta relax. Okay, Peter and Brooklyn, you're on espn.

[Michael Kay]

Peter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hi, Peter. Going once, going twice.

[Michael Kay]

He's making me look bad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, three times a lady. Let's go to Ernie in the Bronx. You're on. Don, Honna, Rosa.

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, fellas? I just wanted to say I kind of agree with Han on this one. And I'm going to tell you why I feel like this is an organizational problem. Because of what the minor league of Ben Ruder came out a few years and said that this is taught from the Miners. This is an approach to baseball. Swing for the fences, launch angles. Like they're not teaching people to hit for average. Hit the ball the other way, make contact, and it always rears his ugly head come playoffs. Now think back to last year's playoff run against the Royals and against the Indians. All of our big moments were home runs. It wasn't a base hit with people on base, bases loaded, a double. Here, everything was a home run. And our pitching always shows up in the playoffs, but our hitting doesn't. And now that we don't have a Juan Soto, somebody who can work the count, somebody who can, you know, get those big hits like that, you know, it's gonna be back to the same thing of home run or nothing, all or nothing, home run a bust. And I agree with Han. Like, I'm not worried about the regular season. I'm worried about the postseason, what it's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Gonna look like, right? And that's where the history is. So. So if you're not worried about the regular season, then we can't just extrapolate and say, we'll see what happened against the Royals, Red Sox and Angels as what's going to happen once we get to the playoffs. It's happened for a long time because they care about home runs and their situational hitting goes away. But Hal could be sitting there, go, how's it working out for me? We're in first place. We went to the World Series last year, and I brought up what Jeff Passon said, guys, is it's a crapshoot because that's what the analytic world says.

[Michael Kay]

No, listen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, the post season, it's just a crapshoot. Anybody, anybody can win. We just haven't one. And the Astros seem to found a way. Listen, if you like, the Dodgers found a way three times out of six years, but they Haven't.

[Michael Kay]

If you like being pretty good, even very good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's still. Yeah, it's better than 2, 3.

[Michael Kay]

Let's be really good. That's the Yankees. Let's be really good. No, really good. It's just not. Let's be great. Let's be really good. Wasn't that what George always said? We're the Yankees. We attempt to be pretty. Pretty damn good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. But you know, again, George did it at a time where there was the same five teams that won every single year and the Yankees won all the time because, well, guess what? They were in a position to do it. It's the parodies and baseball more than it is football. Football parody. You laugh at it. It's Kansas City, New England, Baltimore. It's the same teams every.

[Michael Kay]

Last time I checked, Buffalo. Last time I checked, the revenue. Yankees still do pretty well. And another team that does really well with revenue, the LA Dodgers, they spend that money and they win championships. They do it the Yankee way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Allen, again, the dirty little secret. I said it on K A lot. I'll say it here with Alan and continue it here on Don Han and Rosenberg. George Steinbrenner wanted to win because that was the way to make money.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't want to say George didn't want to win. He fiercely wanted to win. But the motivation was, if I win, I get to make a lot of money. If you can make a lot of money without winning, then why bother? Then, yeah, I'd like to win, but it's not in my DNA.

[Michael Kay]

It's a bonus to win.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's it. Well, I think Hal wants to win. Wouldn't you want your team to win? Of course you'd want your team to win. But it's not like it was breathing with George because it affected his bottom line if he didn't win.

[Michael Kay]

But again, this also, this is where I have to defend Cashman. If Cashman's directive was win, I don't think anyone would be better at finding who you need to win. Is his directive to win. It's do the best that you can with what we're willing to give you, pull the best you can cash.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And what we're willing to give you is the third highest payroll.

[Alan Hahn]

I was gonna say let's not do this whole, like, what we're willing to give you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's not the raise.

[Michael Kay]

Well, no. And we're also not going to make any massive changes.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. But I have consistently said the question that I would love to ask Hal Steinbrenner is not about like, why don't you spend more? No, he spends enough. The question is, is your money being spent wisely?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The problem is if it's a problem is I don't think there is one person in this organization that ever feels like their job's online. Yeah, that I have to make this trade. Otherwise I'm out of a job. We have to win this game. Otherwise I'm out of a job. I've got to hit this baseball or throw this strike or I'm gone.

[Michael Kay]

Well, I feel the interesting thing is I think Boone deals with immense pressure. I think Boone every contract year thinks he's up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, let's address that. I think he threw something out. Very interesting.

[Michael Kay]

I do. In spite of the fact that he always stays. I don't think he sits around going, I'm here forever.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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