Hour 2: 2pt & INT Controversies

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast – "2pt & INT Controversies"

Date: January 19, 2026
Episode: Hour 2
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the hottest controversies from the recent NFL playoff games—specifically, the logic (or lack thereof) behind 2-point conversion decisions and a much-debated interception/no-catch call in the Buffalo game. The hosts weigh in on coaching, quarterback confidence, legacy discussions, and the nuances of NFL officiating, all with their signature New York sports talk bravado and humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. CJ Stroud's Playoff Performance & The Quarterback Dilemma

(Starts ~01:28)

• After a tough outing by Houston's CJ Stroud, the panel debates whether he should have been benched at halftime.
  • Don: Leans toward considering a change, saying, "He was losing them the game, Peter. That's why at least has to be a discussion." (04:46)
  • Peter: Cautions against undermining a young QB's confidence. "If you fully 100% are committed to him being your guy next year, you cannot bench him in a playoff game. Football just doesn't work that way, Don." (02:51)
  • Reference to Troy Aikman's in-game comments about Stroud “throwing it open.”
• Comparison to Jaden Daniels and pushback on lazy narratives:
  • Peter: "I'm just not sure that CJ Stroud is actually a full on dude yet. I really am not sure." (03:49)
  • The group agrees Stroud's not replicating his rookie year success, but note his three straight seasons with a playoff win.

2. Super Bowl Scenarios & Legacy Talk

(05:52 - 07:41)

• Focus on Matt Stafford's possible second Super Bowl and its implications:
  • Don: "Yeah. And then that puts him up there right with the, with. With the Mannings and the Brady's of, you know, multiple super bowl winners, which is a big deal." (05:52)
  • Hosts favor the Rams due to Stafford’s experience and weaponry.
• Analysis of remaining potential matchups:
  • Consensus: No matchup seems particularly "sexy," but Rams-Patriots could be most compelling.
  • Peter: "That is such a generic super bowl." (07:39)
  • Revisits Sam Darnold's past struggles and what a Seahawks-Patriots rematch with him at QB would mean.

3. 2-Point Conversion Controversy: Lions Decision Debate

(10:45 - 13:29, Callers Start at 10:53)

• Listener “Richard” lambastes Ben Johnson for not going for two after a dramatic TD, referencing past NFL coaching decisions.
  • Caller Richard: "You put your foot on his throat right now and you go. You have a play..." (11:30)
• Don and Peter immediately refute the argument:
  • Don: "It would be insanity to go for it. I'm going to tell you why. ...Take the extra point. You're guaranteed possessions in overtime, people." *(11:57) / "You cannot, under any circumstances, go for two. You can't. It's stupid. It'd be dumb. It'd be colossally dumb to put the game on the line..." (12:32)
  • Peter: "They did not have a play to cross the goal line. If they don't get it, their season's over. To Don's point, you're guaranteed a possession in overtime." (12:54)

4. Buffalo Game: Interception/No-Catch Rules Controversy

(14:19 - 18:37)

• Caller "Ray," an attorney, praises refs for a tough real-time interception call, details the difference between this play and others like the Devonte Adams catch:
  • Ray: "I think Don laid this out perfectly...I think what gets overlooked here is the refs...got that right in real time." (14:26 - 15:06)
• Don and Peter get into a passionate back-and-forth on officiating and replay protocol:
  • Peter: "The whole world is watching, go under the hood and confidently say after review the rule on the field stands. That to me would be even more impactful..." (15:51)
  • Don: "If you know it's time to change it, then why are you wasting everybody's time?" (16:46)
  • Deep discussion on transparency: Is it procedural or PR to delay for a visible review? Debate about the meaning and impact of the "human element" and the weight of high-stake moments.
  • Peter: "I want you to be tactical and careful in the most important moment of our season. I don't see why that's a crazy ask." (19:34)

5. Chris Collinsworth & Romo Commentary Critique

(20:03 - 21:46)

• Caller asks the hosts to unite against Chris Collinsworth’s color commentary.
  • Adam (caller): Relates a Collinsworth gaffe about punting on third down.
  • Peter: Defends Collinsworth and points out that broadcasters say dumb things all the time: "Tony Romo said that, you know, Buffalo's in four down territory. Like, people say dumb things all the time. It's, it's, it's a long game." (21:00)
  • Don: Admits Collinsworth grew on him over the years, calls his early style "hokey," but now is a fan—even if his Olympic work is "nauseating." (21:20-21:46)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Benching Stroud:

  • Don: “He was losing them the game, Peter. That's why at least has to be a discussion.” (04:46)
  • Peter: “If you fully 100% are committed to him...you cannot bench him in a playoff game. Football just doesn't work that way...” (02:51)

• On 2pt Conversions:

  • Don: “You cannot, under any circumstances, go for two...It'd be colossally dumb to put the game on the line when you're guaranteed possession in overtime.” (12:32)
  • Peter: “They did not have a play to cross the goal line. If they don't get it, their season's over. To Don's point, you're guaranteed a possession in overtime.” (12:54)

• On Officiating & Replay Protocol:

  • Peter: “The whole world is watching, go under the hood and confidently say after review the rule on the field stands. That to me would be even more impactful...” (15:51)
  • Don: “If you know it's time to change it, then why are you wasting everybody's time?...You're grandstanding. You wanted a grandstand moment for something that was never going to get changed in the first place.” (16:46, 19:27)

• On Football Broadcasting:

  • Peter: “People say dumb things all the time. It's, it's, it's a long game. I, I'm not going to say that means Chris Collinsworth is losing it.” (21:00)
  • Don: “He's actually grown on me, so I'm a fan. But I thought he was really hokey when he first started. I can't even stomach him doing the Olympics. It's nauseating.” (21:20)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:28] NFL Weekend Recap & CJ Stroud Quarterback Discussion
• [05:52] Matthew Stafford Legacy & Rams Confidence
• [10:53] Caller Richard Rants on 2-Point Conversion Decision
• [14:19] Caller Ray Dissects the Buffalo Interception Call
• [18:37] Replay Protocol & Transparency Debate
• [20:03] Chris Collinsworth/Tony Romo Commentary Critique

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Host Chemistry & Tone

The episode blends opinionated New York sports talk with humor and a bit of good-natured bickering—especially between Don and Peter as they dissect the replay controversy. Callers are given room to voice passionate takes, but the hosts retain a “no BS” edge, quickly challenging what they see as flawed logic, all while balancing analytical rigor with entertainment value.

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Summary:
This episode gives NFL fans a rousing, comprehensive look at some of the league’s most complex current debates, from the psychology of quarterback management, to the philosophical and procedural questions surrounding officiating and replay, to the long-term legacy of stars like Matt Stafford. Both hosts and callers deliver sharp opinions and color, making this a can’t-miss listen for sports fans who crave smart, sometimes sharply opinionated analysis.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

Would you have switched quarterbacks at the half?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who's their backup?

[Don Hahn]

Was it Mills? You know, he's a, he's a backup. I mean, but you're not getting anything. Because I was having a conversation because Danica was sitting next to me on the plane. We're watching the game together. Things like, who's their backup? I was like, davis Mills. He's like, would you go to him? And I'm like, you know what I might think about him? He's losing you the game. He's that he's literally losing you, the game. Even, even Troy Aikman said he's throwing it open right now like he just doesn't have it. Is there something wrong with his hand? I don't know, but it's not working. And then Danico says, but you don't want to lose him. He's your franchise quarterback. I know, but you're, you have a chance to go to the championship game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But if, but if you would have thought about.

[Don Hahn]

I probably wouldn't have done it, Peter, but I definitely would have thought about it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But here's, here's why you can't. If you fully 100% are committed to him being your guy next year, you cannot bench him in a playoff game. If football just doesn't work that way, Don, it's not like a goal. Like, if it was a goaltender, I'd be with you. You bench him, we bring him back next week. It's okay in football to do it with your quarterback in such a pivotal moment is. I don't know. It's. Listen to Miko Ryan's Was, I hear you did, did you consider benching CJ Stroud? I believe that he could come back out in the second half and flip it. I believe that he could play better. And he did that in the second half. He did play better. We had some positive drives there in the second half because I believe that he would do that. And he did that. Did you see, Don, why I was almost offended. We were having a, you know, one of our extended football conversations in the group chat. And did you understand why I called John Winthrop out for being, as I put it, lazy for saying, when he said, I'm worried that, you know, Jaden Daniels could be following the C.J. stroud pattern. And I just don't see any comp there. I'm just not sure that CJ Stroud is actually a full on dude yet. I really am not sure.

[Don Hahn]

He had. We had this conversation a couple of weeks ago. You got it. You pushed back a little bit that he has not been that bad over the last couple of years. He hasn't, but he has not been as good as his rookie year. And you wonder about these quarterbacks in the South, Peter, like, how good are they really? Now give him credit. He's won a playoff game in all three of those years. Right? So it's not like he's been one and done, but it looked just so bad. And you only get so many kicks at the can here to go to a championship game and look what they'd be having right now, right. A game in Denver against their backup quarterback with a chance to go to the Super Bowl. Now, do I know that Davis Mills would have won them that game? I don't know. Oh, he knows better than I do. That's why I've got to rely on Ryan's doing the right thing. But he was losing them the game, Peter. That's why at least has to be a discussion.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, and here's the. And here's why I push back so much in the comparison to Daniels or anyone else.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, I agree with you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you have a D. If you have a defense like that. Do you know what, Jaden? I mean, Jaden Daniels is doing things with no defense whatsoever. You have a great defense in Houston. The pieces are in place. I understand they were down, obviously a key offensive piece on Saturday, but. Or yesterday. But man, not a good day. Not a good day for the CJ Stroud of it all. On the flip side, you know, again, I am disappointed by the teams we have left. I'm not like super compelled by any of these games. It is a fun, you know, moment potentially, in terms of watching the overall, overall career of Matt Stafford and just what his legacy could be as Don, how do you not pick, for me, at least, how do you not pick the Rams in a championship game with the amount of experience, with all due respect to Sam Darnold, I just. Between Stafford and the weapons that he has, Don, I love the Rams this week. And then you're talking about Stafford getting potentially a second super bowl ring.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. And then that puts him up there right with the, with. With the Mannings and the Brady's of, you know, multiple super bowl winners, which is a big deal. Young never got a second one. Breeze never got a second one. Favre, Rodgers, like, it really put him up there. That's why this could be a big deal. And I think it's going to happen. He's 37 years old. He's way more experienced than everybody else. And also you take a look at their performances in Carolina and the game in Chicago. I thought they were compromised because of the weather. They were last year in Philadelphia and they certainly were in this game. But he's not going to make the mistake. And as much as I love Sam Darnold and the Seahawks to go to the Super Bowl, I think that'd be a tremendous story. Then to see the Rams go back, the experience that he has in the big game is how could that not help you? How can that not be a distinct advantage even on the road to get away.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's absolutely huge. I'm trying to think what is the most. I guess the most compelling thing left. Removing that we like Sam because of the New York thing. Because nationally, no one gives a rat's patoot about that. I guess the most compelling thing, Don, would be the Rams versus the Patriots. I guess, like the. You know, so many of us hate the Patriots, hoping they lose, you know, against a really fun Rams offense and kind of a. We can't call them a dynasty. Obviously, it's only their second, but, you know, sort of this stalwart of the nfc. I guess that's the best matchup.

[Don Hahn]

Well, the only. The only matchup we'd have that wouldn't be a repeat would be Rams, Broncos. Right, Because Seahawks, Patriots. We've seen Seahawks and the Broncos. We've seen a couple, you know, So I guess a Rams Broncos super bowl would be a first.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That is such a generic super bowl.

[Don Hahn]

But I don't know, is there. Even though Belichick's gone, is there something to the Seahawks versus the Patriots, the team where Sam Darnold saw ghosts on national television, now playing them in a Super Bowl Again, it's not the same team, but it literally is the same team. But technically not because of the fact that no Belichick, no Brady. I got to tell you, listen, it's the Super Bowl. I can't say I'd be overly giddy over any matchup, but Seahawks, Patriots, to me, just because it's Sam and I like him. But I can't say any of them are overly sexy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, no, no. But certainly not sexy.

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Hey, let's go to big Dick in Manhattan who wants to talk about. Oh, look, Dick wants to talk about Johnson. Here's Richard talking about Ben Johnson.

[Caller Richard]

Don, Peter Johnson blew three years ago. Vrabel came to the Meadowlands with Tennessee. Same situation, 17, 16, they just scored. He's got Derrick Henry, Jim Brown on his team and he goes for one ties a game. Zach Wilson beats him in overtime. Okay, every coach in the NFL right now should be devising a play that they'll never use, hopefully in their lifetime. But if it happens once, they have to use it. A two point conversion for exactly what happened yesterday. Now, Ben Johnson in his postgame said, I was thinking of it. Ben, you should have been beyond thinking about it. You should have known. First of all, the guy, Caleb Williams, made the greatest play in NFL playoff history. The crowd is in a frenzy. You got them on the mat. You have a boxer, you got him against the ropes. You put your throat against. You put your foot on his throat right now and you go. You have A play that you. You play that you lower him to.

[Don Hahn]

The point where he cannot be heard. Lower him to the point that he cannot be heard. It would be insanity to go for it. I'm going to tell you why. They were down near the goal line and went for it on fourth down and didn't convert. It was tough to move. Take the extra point. You're guaranteed possessions in overtime, people. You're guaranteed possessions in overtime. Even if you give up a touchdown, you're getting a damn ball back.

[Caller Richard]

I'm not arguing that. Peter would be absolute.

[Don Hahn]

I said Lord Tule can't be heard. Did you hear me?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The point that he can't be heard. I wanted to hear him again.

[Don Hahn]

You cannot, under any circumstances, go for two. You can't. It's stupid. It'd be dumb. It'd be colossally dumb to put the game on the line when you're guaranteed possession in overtime. And the possession before they didn't convert at the goal line on fourth down. It would be colossally done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Richard, Goodbye.

[Don Hahn]

I know you don't get the chance to respond. Goodbye.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Richard. Can you imagine? First of all, to Don's point, they had just been down there. They didn't have a play to cross the goal line. They got into the end zone by having Caleb Williams run backwards to the 40 and chuck it. Okay. They did not have a play to cross the goal line. If they don't get it, their season's over. To Don's point, you're guaranteed a possession in overtime. And it played out exactly right. They. They opted to kick. They got the stop and they got the ball.

[Don Hahn]

No, Peter, it never did even enter your mind to go for two. Did it even cross your mind? It didn't mind, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Although I will say I did get. I got nervous when they set up for that extra point. And you're looking at that kind of snowy field and it's cold, but he banged it through and Rip yourself.

[Don Hahn]

We were talking on the right. They were nailing all the field goals.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was fun.

[Don Hahn]

They were these guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They were fun.

[Don Hahn]

Let's go to the. Ray, the Rams kicker, though, a little bit. A little portly, really kind of had that. He kind of had that Andy Reid and the punt bass and kick vibe to it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

In the preseason, Greg Bo referred to him as the fat guy. Well, that's. That's not what you're. That's not traditionally.

[Don Hahn]

Well, that's not nice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The. A little Janikowski bod. Late career Janikowski bod.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's get Call.

[Caller Ray]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, he got a little portly towards the end. Let's go to Ray in the Bronx. Ray, what's up?

[Caller Ray]

What's up guys? Speaking to that. That interception but what was called an interception in the Buffalo game. Like I'm, I'm an attorney and I've always been kind of like fact intensive but you lose cases and you win cases on this the most minute thing. Like the facts really do matter. And like I think Don laid this out perfectly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Man.

[Caller Ray]

I think Don is all over. It's really an issue of possession and whereas Devonte Adams had cleared possession and then when a knee hit and he was able to make that football move which is one of the requirements for a catch in that circumstance.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Caller Ray]

Cooks, his catch was in a different circumstance.

[Don Hahn]

So.

[Caller Ray]

But I think what gets overlooked here is the refs and they got that right in real time. And how many times we killed them for getting things incorrectly which they do and rightfully so. Right to part of their job. But like to get that in real time. And then to Don's point again, I'm telling you, Don, spot on. Then you don't need to review it going forward. One, it was ruled an interception on the field. So it's presumptive at that point that it's going to stay an interception unless there's a clear convincing evidence. Right. Which there wasn't. Peter. That's why we haven't so much talk right now because it was so bang bang. And depending on who looked at that play may have called it another way. And it's so weird that it still would have been the correct call. Right. Like so it's. It's that close. So the replay wouldn't have done. You done nothing for you. Because the player on the call in the field would have stood anyway.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then I hear you but that, but you're also, you're making a lot of good points but you are also removing the human element. If. If it. If they were as sure as you're saying they were not. Apparently they were and Donna said the same thing. Even if you feel there's no purpose at us looking at. We don't live in a vacuum. The whole world is watching go under the hood and confidently say after review the rule on the ruling on the field stands. That to me would be even more impactful than oh, we're so sure we don't even need to look at it. No, you called it on the field that way. Which means it has to be overwhelming to overturn it. And I probably would have agreed, Don, that even though my. My football instinct said that was a catch, given that it was called that way on the field. Yeah. There wouldn't be enough room to overturn it. So I get that. I just think it would have been a better look for everyone to spend 90 seconds saying that's.

[Don Hahn]

And I get it from a PR standpoint, but I'm telling you, it wouldn't have changed it. And if you know it's time to change it, then why are you wasting everybody's time?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because this is going to be a huge. Because it's now a thing that's hanging over the game. And one of the main arguments is how do you not look at it? But that's one of the main arguments.

[Don Hahn]

To re. But replay is to reveal what we don't know. Right? Did he get both feet in bounds? Was it a knee? Was it. Or was it two feet? Did he have possession? Did the puck cross the line? Was the play off side? In that play, they knew he didn't survive the ground, so. But they knew because that was the rule. He didn't serve.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They happened to guess it right, Don. They guessed it, Peter.

[Don Hahn]

No. No, they didn't. You don't understand.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was a complete crapshoot.

[Don Hahn]

But. No, but do you know? No, it wasn't. Do you know how I know he didn't survive the ground? Because he didn't have the ball. That's it. Done. But no, no, he did. That doesn't solve it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No way does that solve it. That does.

[Don Hahn]

It does.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Except you're wrong. Except it hasn't always worked that way. And in other cases, the guys rolled over with the ball and they said, no, it was a catch. So how can you say in this time when they rolled over with a catch? There's no need for review that they've gotten it wrong before, so why not look at it? It matters.

[Don Hahn]

It. It matters.

[Peter Rosenberg]

John McDermott lost his job on Monday. Take a minute, for Christ's sake.

[Don Hahn]

Creating a. You're. You're creating a false narrative. They did look at it. All turnovers are reviewable. All they had to do was take the long look, didn't survive the ground.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's it.

[Don Hahn]

You're asking for some kind of grandiose grandstanding. Let's spend 90 seconds so it looks like we're making a bigger deal out of it than we really did. They looked at it. They looked at it in the booth. They saw it. It's a turnover. They have to look at it. And there was no need to go any further because he didn't survive the ground, and they know that because he.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Didn'T have the ball, Don. But you're now playing. We're now like, we're playing with words when I say we're not. They literally walked out onto the field as if no play had happened. It was just a punt. They didn't even stop play for five seconds. They went to line up. Only when McDermott called the timeout was there a chance to look at it. They didn't think there was anything there. And what I'm saying is, how could that be impossible? How could it be that they did look?

[Don Hahn]

Because every turnover is reviewable.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But how many.

[Don Hahn]

Every score. Every turnover is reviewable. So they did look at it, Peter, and it didn't take that long for them to figure it out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So what they saw. They saw it one time and went, we're good. Meanwhile, you're. Anything right in one review every week, meanwhile.

[Don Hahn]

But I'm just telling you, if they did it that quickly, you think if they looked at it longer, they were going to change it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So now I did it.

[Don Hahn]

You're grandstanding. You wanted a grandstand moment for something that was never going to get changed in the first place.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're calling it grandstanding and I'm calling it being. I want you to be tactical and careful in the most important moment of our season. I don't see why that's a crazy ass. You're saying there's no world in which. There's no world in which the three of them looked at it and go, I don't know. I actually see that it's in his belly and he's holding the ball when he's on the ground. And then it was ripped from his hands. How could they be so sure? I just. I. We're not going to see it the same way. I can't understand how that would be so. So sure. Let's get to more of these calls. Adam in Putnam County. What's up, Adam?

[Don Hahn]

Hey, Don. Peter, good afternoon.

[Caller Richard]

I'm hoping maybe to unite you both in a common goal here with the hatred of Chris Collinsworth and how he calls a game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I'm a fan.

[Don Hahn]

I don't know.

[Caller Richard]

You're a fan?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I like him.

[Caller Richard]

In the Bears game. The Bears have it late. Third quarter, third and one at their own 40. I don't know if you guys remember the play, but Chris Collinsworth says out loud, I don't think. I guarantee that they will not punt on the next two downs. First of all, why Would you punt on third down? That's just idiotic. And then what happens? The Bears hand the ball off and they get hit for a loss. And what do they do? They punt.

[Caller Ray]

So talk.

[Caller Richard]

Talking without, you know, really experiencing, I guess. I know Chris Collinsworth was a great wide receiver, but I think he's losing it. And his hate for New York goes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I mean, Adam, listen, thank you for the call, Adam. And I think it's. That's a tough moment for him. But as I pointed out to our group chat, I mean, the day before, with under a minute left in the game on the line, Tony Romo said that, you know, Buffalo's in four down territory. Like, people say dumb things all the time. It's, it's, it's a long game. I, I'm not going to say that means Chris Collinsworth is losing it.

[Don Hahn]

I, I didn't hear it. I was at a bar watching it, so they had the volume, but I did not hear. I'd like to hear exactly what he said, but if that's what he said, then he was wrong. I was never a fan. I always thought he was corny. He's actually grown on me, so I'm a fan. But I thought he was really hokey when he first started. I can't even stomach him doing the Olympics. It's nauseating. But football, I think he's really good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

It's telling time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Knicks and the Mavs right after us right here on 880. That's coming up in a few minutes. Rangers, Ducks after dan grass on 880 at 9:30. Then you got the college football championship which is airing on 10:50am starting at 6:30. Nets and the Suns at 7:30. Devils in Calgary, where Don will be on the call, of course. And let's see the Flames and Islanders. No, no, I just got. Sorry, sorry. Canuckson Islanders. The Calgary Flames are playing the Devils, the Canucks and the Islanders at 10 o'. Clock. Tullamore Dew, the original triple distilled, triple blended and triple cast matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tullamore Dew or try the new Tullimore Dew. Honey, during today's action, glasses up to enjoying Tullamore Dew responsibly. We're not going to get to Mike Griffin or Earl. We appreciate you guys call us back tomorrow. We will have a full program. Don, enjoy the broadcast today. What's your travel schedule again?

[Don Hahn]

We're off to Edmonton after the game and I'm not doing the game in Edmonton. It's a TNT vehicle, but I'll be there. And then after that game, we fly right to Vancouver, where I'm going to be from Wednesday to Saturday before I go to Seattle.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's just a. It's just a Don Leger radio day in Edmond.

[Don Hahn]

Yes, yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If. If you were worth anything, you would just show up to Yari Curry's house. You know what I mean? Show me.

[Don Hahn]

I should try to knock on his door. Crazy. It was 8, 8:15 this morning. The sun still wasn't up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow, really?

[Don Hahn]

But the sun will be up at like nine, which is nice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, here. Don on the call, of course. Enjoy. Enjoy. Don on the call for the Devils. Alan with the Knicks. We'll see you tomorrow at 3 o'.

[Don Hahn]

Clock.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Happy MLK Day, everyone. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN News York app, and your smart speakers.