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That sounds like heaven to me.
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Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8:80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers. 4:00 clock in the greatest city in the world with Peter Rosenberg. I'm Alan Hahn. Don legreca off this week. So it's just the bullpen coyotes in here with you this week. So last night, how much did you consume of the MLB All Star Game?
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Zero. Zero.
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None of it. Jacob.
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Zero percent.
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Last night, how much were you dialed into the All Star Game last night? A grand whopping total of zero minutes. Zero. That's two that were out. Anthony.
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Anthony was in. He's got you.
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How much were you in?
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I watched the first inning. I saw Cody Bellinger's two RBI single. I saw Ben Rice's RBI single.
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Yep, I saw.
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I waited until Cody Bellinger and Ben Rice were safely out of the game.
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Taken out of the game.
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And I turned it off.
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And that's it.
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That was it.
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You were out.
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That was it.
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I had it on background. My son made. Listen to this. Zach made chicken parm last night. It was unbelievable. Really fried it, really baked it, the whole thing, like set it up. I came home, he had it made, sat with him.
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You know how to do it?
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Glass of wine? No, couldn't do that.
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Oh, Zach.
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What?
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A glass of wine? Yeah, I had a glass of wine with it. Oh, man. Perfect. MLB All Star game. Would have been watching me at that point. No, no, it was, it was on, you know, it was on.
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Right.
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I wasn't locked in. So I did see, you know, I saw Bellinger, Bellies hit. I saw that big belly. Big belly. And then Rice back in the All Star Game, you know, a couple other plays that, you know, stood out. But for the most part, like that's kind of it, you know, it wasn't grabbing my attention. But the good news is that Bellinger had the two run RBI and the American League one for nothing. So basically once he had that hit, the game was over. We didn't know that, but the game was over. There were a ton of strikeouts. Bellinger ends up getting MVP. He joins a list of Yankee MVPs that include Giancarlo Stanton, Mariano Rivera and Derek Jeter. So that's pretty cool.
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Very cool.
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And he's also the first player to. What was it he was? Rookie of the Year. Anthony. He was.
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He wanted World Series LCS mvp.
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LCS mvp. World Series champion now, now an All Star Game and now All Star Game mvp. And I found that to be hard to believe. Like no one has done that, but he, he has done that. So that's again, for him, this is a nice part of the story. So before we start getting into the actual game, first and foremost, for Bellinger, who's kind of struggled, could this be a moment? It lifts him out of it a little bit, right? Without Judge, he hasn't been the same. He's been frustrated with the way he's played this year. We know he's definitely better. And could this moment kind of, kind of help him out a little bit, can get him going. Here he is on just what it, what it means just to be an All Star.
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Pretty special. I really just my first few years in the big leagues, you know, I was here, I think two of my first three years and I was like, I'll be here every year. So, you know, you know, took a long time to get back. It's such a, you know, competitive league and it's hard to be an All Star. You know, health performance, it all has to. All has to come together. And honestly, this one, I just really enjoyed it.
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Isn't that amazing? You go early in your career and you're like, I'll be doing this all the time. And then you don't.
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I thought that was.
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I saw.
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So I did watch that quote earlier. Yeah, I thought that was an interesting and cool.
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It's a great admission.
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Yeah.
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It just shows you again, like how you have this expectation and when you go back the next time, it's almost like you have a greater appreciation for it and that's what it sounded like. How about sharing the stage with Ben Rice, who played in his first All Star Game?
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Yeah, awesome, man. I mean, he's such a good player. You know, I think put. Put the world on notice a little bit. Home Run Derby did. He did well. Hit some homers and I mean he's just such a. Such a good player and it was fun to share it with him.
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And then last but not least, of course, bases loaded. He gets the two run base hit. And that's really what led to him being the mvp.
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Right man, right spot in that situation. You know, bases loaded, two outs, hit a single up the midd. And pitching is just. It was unbelievable today, honestly. Right man, right spot.
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Right man, right spot. But the game itself, we talked yesterday. This is a game, by the way, 27. It felt like there were a lot of strikeouts. 27 combined, 27 strikeouts. That's not entertaining, baseball.
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Unless you love pitching. Well, that had been one team, it would have been particularly problematic.
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Well, that would have been.
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That would have been a record.
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That would definitely be on the perfect game. But 27 total strikeouts in a baseball, that is. That's difficult. And again, who didn't pitch? Look, credit to the. I'll say this. Give credit to the players who made sure they were there and they were present and they were part of the broadcast. Um, you saw like, Schlitler was miked up with Verlander and Mizarowski. Like, they were taught. Like, that's important because you. All right, so you're not playing, but still be part of it. And they were. And that's important. That was good. And I love insight like that when the players are all kind of talking with each other. Sometimes that could be just as interesting as the game. And in fact, it probably was more interesting than the game, but still, it says a lot when players aren't available to play. Some chose not even to go for various reasons. And yesterday you and I both talked about the fact that maybe we've reached a point in all. In pro sports, do we really need an All Star game? Because in so many of. In all of the leagues, they've had to keep changing the format to make the games watchable. That's where we are. We're trying to change the game to make it watchable, but that's not the game you're playing all year. Again, NHL going to be three on three this coming year. They don't do three on three.
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What is that like?
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They don't. What is this? Oh, because it's overtime hockey. Like, that's what we're going to do. We're going to play overtime hockey all the time. You're basically saying, we know our game is not that exciting, so let's change it so you'll want to watch it. The NBA goes to. They've tried a million different formats. They tried the Elam ending. They have tried everything to get people to want to watch, get the players to want to compete, to get everybody to say that this is a showcase. It's not bad, but it has been for so many years. It has not been a good showcase. Baseball we just gave you 27 strikeouts. Are you in for that? Did you come to see 27 strikeouts? No, of course you didn't. Four nothing game with one hit in the first inning and that was.
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It was nice to see the Yankees manufacturing runs, though.
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Oh, you like the.
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You don't get that. You don't get small ball every day.
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You like the runners in scoring position. Let me just put this one in play.
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I love seeing that. I thought that was a thing in baseball. You do. I'd been told it wasn't.
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Did you hear Schneider, also because of the Yankee boys knocked in some runs. I'm like, what Yankee boy? Like, I imagine. Now, look, I know he doesn't talk that way, but reading the quote, like, seeing the quote in print, I thought he was like. Like Boss Hogg.
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It was Yankee boys.
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Them Yankee boys, you know, like, I was waiting for that kind of a voice diarrhea that you dream about him. Yankee boys knocking in them runs, like, as if he's talking about two kids from Jersey, right. Playing down in Alabama.
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Them damn Yankees.
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Right? So there, you know, there's that. And then, of course, we already said this yesterday. The NFL has completely punted on their Pro bowl to now it's a flag football game. But you and I say this stuff going into last night's game and we're told that, you know, we're being negative and the All Star game is great. Didn't Danny from Long island say, let kids enjoy it? It's good for the kids. Yeah, kids love in 20 seconds.
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All my grand. My grandkids would enjoy it.
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Yeah. All right, so you don't. You don't think, you know, Peter's a wrestling guy, I'm a basketball guy. We should just stick to what we do, right? We don't know anything.
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Even though we weren't. Even though we were both little kids who loved the MLB All Star, grew up baseball, went to All Star weekend at Cannon yards back in 90. I remember that one three or 94.
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Wasn't that the one with. They were all there right then. Wasn't that some kind of legend thing that was happening there, too? Well, whatever it is, I remember that.
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I loved it. I loved seeing everyone.
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You know, I used to score him as kids.
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I used to score All Star as a kid.
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You know, I know, like, I have nerd tendencies, okay? I try to fight them.
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When Don and Michael still talk about, like, enjoying scoring a game, it's. It's legitimately nerdy to the point I
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can't score a game I'm not covering.
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It's.
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I can't think if I'm covering a game.
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Because you're not a free.
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You've seen the notes that I've posted, right. That people seem to love. Have you ever seen the stuff I put on Instagram during the playoffs?
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Yeah.
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Where it's like, this, my sheet.
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Yeah.
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And it's illegible, but people seem to love it, so I posted them.
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I get that.
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That's what I do. But if I'm not covering the game.
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But. But what you're saying makes. It's like saying, I don't like doing homework for fun, but, like, I just
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want to take it in.
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But the people who literally, like. I mean, listen, I get that it's doing okay. Let me not be a complete jerk. There's something nostalgic about it. I get it.
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But scoring a game is fun. If you're by yourself at a ball game and you're just kind of like,
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yeah, I'll score it, I would. Let me tell you something.
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Because you're into it.
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Let me tell you something else I would do.
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What?
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I would sooner walk outside of the game with a revolver and end it
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all,
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then score the. Anthony, you're a big baseball nerd. Have you ever considered bringing the scorebook to the ballpark with you?
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But that was the best part, that you bring it. You buy the program, and the program has this. Has it in the program.
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It's a unique experience for me because when I was at Fordham, there was a year where I covered the team.
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So you had.
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So I was in the press box. And they give you literally a scorecard.
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Yeah.
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They're not staring at you to do it, but when you're sitting there and there's 162 of them, it's a lot. You're going to score the game. Yeah, but have I ever done it on my own, like in the States?
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I'm going to the game this weekend. I. You know what? I'm just really in the mood to score.
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Not since I was a kid. My dad's like, hey, here's how. This is how you score a game.
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That was my mom.
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And that was. And that was the last time I've ever done it as a fan.
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I used to take my mom every year to a Mets game, and that was her thing because she grew up with that. And she would. She would take the program, open it up onto the scorecard page, and she would take a pencil and score the game. She loved it. And I would watch and I Learned. Learned how to do it.
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But it's charming because it's your mom.
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And it's also. That's an old school thing. That's a bygone era when we didn't have a phone that told us what the stats were. Yeah, it's yesteryear, you know, like, now we have a phone that we know.
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I don't remember how I learned to score because it certainly wasn't my dad who was able to teach me. So I don't know how I learned to do it, but I did it.
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Isn't it funny? It's like a language we all learn and we don't know how we learned them.
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Well, we would score the game. We would score our varsity baseball games. Someone would have the scorebook and you'd like, switch off. But that was like, it was required that one of us had to do it.
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Yeah. So. But also, if you did, if you were an athlete in college.
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I don't. Schools, I don't know to do it anymore.
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They have work study jobs that you have, and it basically means you. You work at games of other teams. So soccer, you're like the ball boy. Baseball, you would have a scorekeeper. And so I'd done that enough, like, where that was easy to do.
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But anyways.
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But anyways.
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Speaking of nerdy baseball teams, if that
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wasn't evidence enough, though, of about both Peter and I can tell you that the baseball does matter more than just something that's on. That was our true feelings about All Star, and we kind of both felt like it was supported. But you want to listen to somebody who's an actual baseball aficionado, somebody who loves the game, lives and breathes it, cares about it, curates it, votes, all that stuff. Would you say Buster only would be in that category of people?
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I would put him, I think, as high as you could be. He's scoring games every day.
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I mean, he's literally scoring. He's scoring games. Not even out.
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That's right.
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Buster only was on. Get up this morning and listen to what he says about the state of the Major League Baseball All Star Game.
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Fragile. I think this Midsummer Classic is in a fragile state right now. And there's a lot of concern within the sport because so many players are opting out of the game, whether it's to be scheduled in the final weekend on Saturday and Sunday, making them ineligible pitch or making the choice not to pitch. I mean, in this All Star Game, Jacob Misarowski, the guy everyone wants to see, he didn't pitch. Paul Skeens didn't pitch. Cam Slitler. Aaron Judge was not there. Shohei Ohtani was not there at Citizens bank park last night. A third of the stands had cleared out by the eighth inning. That is a concern for baseball to address as you move forward.
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Okay, so he basically said what we were trying to tell you. So if he's saying it, and this is a guy, he's a curator of the game and he's telling you this, maybe there's something to this. And I'm telling you, this is not just a baseball thing. This is a sports thing. It used to be a great showcase. It used to be a moment. Times have changed. It's not like that anymore. There isn't the novelty of getting to see two players who never have been team or maybe rivals who end up being teammates in the game. And you watch them turn a double play going, my God, that's magic. They're so talented. Look at those two. They make it look so easy.
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Right?
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That's something that was fun to watch. Or a batter and a pitcher who because of there's no interleague play. You've never seen them face off against each other. Now you are. And wow, what a showdown that was. There was fun stuff about it. Now guys are making decisions like, I don't really want to play in the game because it's not my, you know, it's either not my throw day or I have a dead arm or I don't want to be your third choice because there's been two other injuries. There's all different reasons why players are okay with saying no. That's all we were talking about. And that's not just baseball. Again, it's not exclusive to baseball. And that's all we're talking about is do we really need these mid season all star games anymore? You can still name teams. You can still have an event. Home run derby is still an event. Three point shootout, slam dunk, it's an event. Skills competitions for football and hockey can still be an event. But don't. Don't tell me that the game is still an important thing to watch when all of us just admit it. All of us, the two psychos. Me and Anthony at least had it on. You and Jacob completely checked. Didn't even turn on.
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And I used to.
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Because you knew you could watch whatever was important later on on social media.
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I knew back in the day I would. I would have been into watching it still. Even after my love of baseball faded some. Now it just feels completely empty.
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Yeah. And that's that. That's not a good thing. 800-993-776. What do you think? Jerry in Hackensack tells us what he thinks. Jerry.
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Hey, Alan's actually South Hackensack taking the call. I appreciate it. Yes. Hey, first, real quick, Alan, great job on the Nick post game run. You and you and your teammates on the pre and post game.
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Wonderful job.
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It was so much fun.
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Two, I believe. Yeah. Listen, you know, that's a time for a different. You know, we're talking All Star Games right now. But I want to thank you.
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Well done.
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A second thing. Thank God that they went back to the uniforms. I hated the softball uniforms.
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Oh, I agree.
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So, yeah, so the All Star Game, I mean, a lot of the luster has been taken off with the advent of interleague play.
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Great point.
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I'm 62 and I remember, you know, couldn't wait for the All Star Game because I never really. Unless you watched, you know, the Game of the Week on Channel 4 with Kurt Gowdy, you didn't see the guys in the net. I mean, I've been Yankee fans since 1970, so I didn't see those guys. Yeah, and you waited for the All Star Game to see it. You know, now baseball still has the most realistic All Star Game. I can't watch football's All Star Pro Bowl. I can't. And I love hockey. Can't watch that All Star Game. Basketball, can't watch that. But baseball, I can still watch because it's still a baseball game.
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You have to play.
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You know, I don't really care for the. You gotta. You know, I mean, listen, do you have every now and again, like the cookie they threw to Jeter in his last All Star Game so he could get a base hit?
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Yeah.
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Or the same thing that would Cal Ripken in his last All Star Game when he popped it in the right field, you know, but, hey, you had that during the regular season. Didn't Mickey Mantle hit his.500 home run on a fastball he knew was coming from Denny McLean in 68? So you still have those things. I don't particularly, particularly care about the Home Run Derby to end it. I think they should go and, you know, play a few innings. But still the most realistic game. But unfortunately, with interleague play, it has completely lost its luster.
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It really has.
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And that's my opinion on it. I don't know what you guys are thinking about. Thanks again for taking my call, guys.
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Got it, Jerry. Thank you. And I do think the interleague play Part of this, I think that that has taken away some of it.
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It subtly, over time, affects it. England on the board. Beautiful cross goal. Knocked in one nothing in the 56th minute.
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And he just stayed on side, right?
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Oh, yeah, he was.
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He just stayed on side.
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That was a beautiful, beautiful goal. It was Gordon. Yeah, with the goal. 1 nothing. Now just crossing 56 minutes in to this second semifinal, England and Argentina, obviously they're showing lots of shots of.
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Argentina's got them right where they want them, right.
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A dejected Messi. Yeah, I mean, listen, they've done it before, right?
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Yes, they have.
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But. But England's been a different animal this tournament. I saw the. I saw. I don't know if you caught any. Some of the lines around the city outside these bars. Today was. Today was a day, man. If you're a fan of this team, obviously not listening to us right now, you are jam packed into a pub right now. But it was a vibe. And now England with a lead and a chance to move on to face Spain in the final at MetLife Stadium on Sunday.
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All right, let's continue with the calls while we keep an eye on that game for you. 800 now. 193776. Phil and Rockland, you're up next. Phil,
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what's going. How are you?
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Good.
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So I was going to say, ultimately, the All Star Game is novelty baseball, right? So if they're going to do the novelty baseball, they might as well lean all the way into it. The Savannah Bananas sell out crowds with their novelty baseball. Why not some round robin of something and then the winner plays, you know, the Savannah Bananas. Because ultimately nobody wants to watch the MLB's novelty baseball. So figure something out. Right. If they could sell out Yankee Stadium with their novelty baseball, why not involve them? They let them go to their stadiums anyway. So lean into it. Right.
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You know what? At first I'm like, is he crazy? But I actually don't think it's that crazy, Phil. Here's what I'm thinking, Peter, because you and I were the ones that came up with the bullpen coyote thing.
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A moment that I think could have changed the sport.
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We were coming up with crazy ways to make baseball more interesting.
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Yeah.
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And we decided releasing Coyotes out of the bullpen Coyote.
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You know, I remember it.
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And having them just chase players, potentially a game changer like we had. We had different things. But the Savannah Bananas, although they don't use Coyotes, they do a lot of weird, funny, entertaining stuff with their game. And I think if you're a baseball purist, it probably is not something you enjoy. But is the All Star Game for baseball purists, or is it a moment to entertain? The one thing that I used to like about the All Star game in the NBA back in the 80s and 90s, where the players understood that while most of this game we're gonna play and compete, there's gonna be moments where we're gonna let players show off their incredible skill, like Isaiah Thomas doing, like, a dribbling expedition or. Or, you know, letting, like, Jordan go for a dunk or stuff like that. Like, there was always a moment that you marveled at talent. That's when you would see Magic Johnson throw crazy passes that would just be on target. That's all the stuff that I thought was supposed to be part of the game where There's. It's. It's 80% the game is being played and about 20% stuff we would never do in a real game. But we're here to entertain. So a little Harlem Globetrotters thrown in. Savannah bananas, aren't they? But a baseball version of the Harlem
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Globetrotters, I would say that's exactly what they are.
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Okay.
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Wow. Stupid soccer from England just turning over. But they're going to get away with it. So stay with call, though.
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Yeah, so stay with me. What if you don't have to bring in the Savannah bananas, but what if you borrowed from what they do?
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Go ahead. What do you. What are you doing?
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The game has a little more of, like, the quirkiness to it. Fan catches a foul ball. If you catch it clean, it's an out. I find that to be hilarious.
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Are you. Do you really?
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And now fans are now just involved in it.
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Think about the people you're talking to.
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I'm telling you, you're gonna. You're gonna. The baseball purists will hate this, but how many people would watch it? Because it's kind of funny. You can. You. You have. I don't. What are some of the stuff they do? Like, there's a lot of funny things now. I don't think you can do some of the. I'm a huge Yankee fan since 1995. You're gonna upset people. I get it.
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Nobody's backflipping.
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Nobody's back flipping. Nobody's doing that stuff. But there's also trick catches in the outfield that are worth more than one out. Right? Is that something they do?
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I know they do trick catches. I'm not sure if it's more than
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one out or is it points? You get whatever it is, like if you make it behind you do like like the Willie Mays basket or the over the shoulder Cleon Jones or you know, like, like, you know what I mean? Like if you do some type of put a little something extra on the catch.
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I hear what you're saying. It's never going to happen.
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Never happen. Look, I'm trying here.
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Yankee fans since 1973, they're going to hate it. I'm not.
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We're not playing to them. They're already watching these games. They're still watching. It's everybody else that goes.
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They might be the only ones still watching it. That's the problem.
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It's 27 strike finish in 1938.
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I just worry that you lose the people you have.
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Listen to me. It's 27 strikeouts. Nobody is signing up for that.
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Even the players.
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Only pitchers.
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If you cared. You're not. You don't. You're not allowed.
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Look, I just threw out an idea.
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No one's taking it.
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Ray has an idea though. Ray and Wes just.
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Right.
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Ray, what do you have?
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I know to work for baseball kind of out of left field, no pun intended. What about like Home Run Derby? They do that like normal and then like a league wide old timers game.
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Yeah, the old timers game thing kind of has fallen off. Mainly because the more you watch old timers play, the more you're like. That's why they retired.
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I get it. You know, watching some of these guys play yesterday kind of felt like old timers, honestly. You know, they put the bat on the ball.
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Yeah, you're right about that. No, they. I think they did like a softball game for a while with some of like, you know, the legend players and it's just. It's just. That's right. Look, we're just trying here. We're spitballing. Peter's the one that just telling us no every idea. So Ray, at least. Thank you, Ray. Ray tried. I tried. What do you got? Give me some.
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I got, I got.
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You came out with both years ago. What do you got?
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I was with you yesterday.
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I.
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The answer is no game.
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Just don't do a game.
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The answer is you have a home run derby, maybe you come up with some other fun skills thing to do and you introduce the all stars and make that a big thing with thorough real entrances. They come out pyro music, you know, again, maybe you come up with some other wacky thing to do.
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Don't think having like the Colonial Times guys out there signing the big declaration of independence.
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Yeah, I don't Know if that's the vibe.
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Did you see that last night?
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No, I didn't because I didn't turn it on.
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He had the Liberty Bell, the whole thing.
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Well, it's Philadelphia.
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They're going for a certain 250th anniversary.
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You know, there's that because baseball doesn't feel old enough. So they said, let's. Let's go with some good old.
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So the sport is actually young. Like the, the sport was invented a hundred years into America, right?
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Yeah. Way later.
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100 years. It was still a baby.
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Yeah.
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The country was still like a toddler when the game was invented.
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So you're saying the game's not actually that old?
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Well, the game is old.
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You're saying it goes.
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It's almost as old as the country.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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So why not sell it? Why not? Why not?
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We've upgraded things in the country. We don't still wear those three point hats, do we?
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So why does the All Star game have to be the same?
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You know what I mean? I don't know.
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Yeah, I really thought you hit the nail yesterday, though. You turn Monday into the whole thing and you give them an extra day of rest. You still get to see all the All Stars. You have the Home Run Derby.
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You.
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You do have to add to the Home Run Derby.
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All right.
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You have to figure out what is the three point Shootout. If the Home Run Derby is the dunk contest, what's the three point shootout that you would add to?
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That's the accuracy thing we love. Because Home Run Derby is the dunk contest. We know that. But three point shooting is something like really that you look. No, because three point shooting is the. Is the asmr. So what is that in baseball? I think home runs are the asmr. Just the majestic, you know, the flight. Why. That's why everybody loved that this was a slower pace because you could watch the ball fly. There's something satisfying about watch trajectory of fall.
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Because when they went in past years when they're rushing and you can't even get that moment to take, it got annoying. It gets annoying.
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So I don't think there's a comp. I think the slam dunk and the three point combined is what Home Run Derby really is. Because there is something ASMR about watching Steph Curry shoot at three, making like five in a row. There's a perfection to it that is so satisfying. Would you agree? Can't compare it to anything else in sports.
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I 100% agree.
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The only thing you compare it to is like Aaron Rodgers dropping it right in the basket on like a, you know, 30, 40 yard throw, you know.
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But you, I would enjoy throwing accuracy though, for baseball, fielding and distance. You ever, you haven't ever been satisfied watching two outfielders just chuck it to each other. They just launch it like effortlessly and you're like, dude, these guys, their guns are crazy. Yeah, I don't know, maybe there's a way to do that. Accurate throws from the outfield to home plates. I don't know.
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What we'll do is we'll take suggestions.
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Alan. Alan has no idea what my list is and he's going to like it
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even more than I was about to say that because of, you know, we were very busy before the show and I'm like, I haven't even talked to you about this list, so I'm in the complete dark.
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You're going to love it.
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I'm going to love it.
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It's brought to you by the Allure Group.
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Of course it is.
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I got a phone call from my wife during the program. Yeah, we had the, the good people at Hamilton Air. They're the people I have to call to come look at the air conditioning units in my house. I guess they're the ones that installed it. I feel like my whole building is just Hamilton tonight and they, they came
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to look today and they like what they saw. No, they did not like what they saw.
B
No.
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That's a concern.
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They looked at the air conditioning units and were like, not only do the filters need to be changed, which they are, you know, cleaned.
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Yeah.
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Which I did. I at least had done that somewhat.
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You know, you have to do that, like, every three months.
B
No, I didn't know that.
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Yeah.
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No. I don't know.
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Because the more that builds up, first of all, bad that it's circulating. Second of all, it makes your compressor work harder.
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Right. So it's making the machine worse and it's endangering you by putting.
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And you're not getting clean air, so.
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Yeah.
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So it was beyond the filters, though.
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Okay.
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And it's now dirt dirty everywhere. There are pictures. It could even be mold.
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That is the other part to worry about.
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Thank you.
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Don't worry.
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I'm. I'm. I'm nowhere.
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You are.
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Yeah. Don't worry. I'm already fully told you that. Yeah. And he told me basically, like, my. The one in my daughter's room is the best one. It's the least used.
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Oh, that's good.
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But he was like, I wouldn't even use it at all in her room because, you know, she's a baby.
D
Yeah.
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So I'm having a little bit of a freak out here about what to do about this whole situation.
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And.
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And the units are in, like, enclosures, so there's a chance if I'm replacing these, I have to. Like the enclosures.
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Yeah.
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It's not great.
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It's got to be tough in a building.
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It's not.
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Can't be easy.
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I'm not thrilled about the call I received.
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I have a suggestion for you. We'll talk about it off air.
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All right.
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I want to hear that.
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Yeah.
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But I'm going to give to you top five annoying things about home maintenance.
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This is my wheelhouse.
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I told you. This is for you. I want to say right now my list won't be perfect because I haven't been a homeowner that long. I'm often in the city, so I don't always relate to all the big yard things.
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Maintenance. So you're talking about things that you need to, like, fix.
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I suggest the one Peter didn't even think.
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Update.
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But it's there now.
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Like, things that you need to. To be aware of that you might not always be aware.
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No, no. And like, things that like something.
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This is such a summer list.
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It's an area of something in your house where things happen. And invariably, at some Point. Something's got to be fixed.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So that's the top five.
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All right.
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All right.
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And again, you'll know better than me. So this is just what I put. And my number one. I've never even got heard about it.
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Can I throw some out?
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Yeah, go ahead.
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You mind? All right. My number one answer for a homeowner.
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Yeah.
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And it's the thing that costs a ton and you don't really enjoy it.
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Roof number one.
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Come on. It's like the craziest thing how much it costs.
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And you.
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You don't see it.
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You don't even know it.
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You can't go, hey, you. You see what I did? I put a new roof on. You like?
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What do you think? You like it?
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What do you think of that roof?
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Well, I know you didn't notice it before, but you won't notice it. Nobody. Nobody says a word number one with a bullet because of what you just said.
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But it's.
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But.
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But you know, when you don't take care of it or don't get it ahead of time, destroys your house.
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So because you don't get to really enjoy it in any way, and it's so expensive and a pain to get done. Roof is number number one.
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Perfect. Okay. Another one that is an unseen. But once it's something that you need to replace or repair, you got to stay up on this because there is actually a time period that when you hit that time period, stay ahead of it. Even though it's still working, you probably should replace it. Ready? Hot water heater.
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Oh, my God. You know what? It's number three, and it's in there with your AC unit. I have AC and hot water.
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They come together well again, your H Vac and your. And your hot water. Two different things, but they both equally important.
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Same family of annoying things.
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Oh, my God.
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You're. You're. You have an AC problem. An H Vac problem. Yeah, a dagger. The hot water heater. I mean, you need it.
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You absolutely have it happen if it ever goes flood.
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Oh, and then that part, you need
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to be ahead of that.
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So number three, be still working.
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But if you hit seven years, it's probably time to just get it checked just in case. Because what you don't want is for when it tells you to replace me. Now you're replacing your Sheetrock, your flooring, all of it.
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Number three, H Vac, hot water.
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There you go.
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All right.
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Now, what else would be now.
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Now one, one of them. I put three different things in one
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thing in one Thing.
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Yeah.
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All right, good. Give me that one.
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Number four. I put lawn, landscaping, slash plan.
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Cool.
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If you have it.
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Yes.
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Which I know is its own thing altogether, but not everybody has.
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But it's all your stuff outside.
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All that outside.
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Yeah.
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No one wants to deal with.
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No.
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But although you love landscapes.
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It's my. It. That's my zen.
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It's your. It's your zen.
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You want to get out there, Trim. It's great.
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We all love a little trim, don't we?
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We all need it.
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All right, so that's number four. H vac and hot water. Three. Roof. Roof is one. I have two more things. One of them is the one Anthony told me I hadn't even thought of because I've never really dealt with this as a problem.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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It's very common.
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It. Once he said it, I was like, oh, yeah, of course that's a thing. But I just. You may not cross your mind till you have an issue with it.
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First thing Jacob said also.
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Really?
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Okay, let's hear it. I already get. I got two. I'm good.
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I said cleaning the gutters.
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That's it. Oh, man.
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Which was the Jacob and I task
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every time my good friend Ned came to clean the gutters at the house.
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Okay.
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But we didn't know when they were coming, so I hate that about Ned. I had to get ready for work and to take a shower. Our bathroom has a skylight. Ned shows up right when I got to take a shower. So I can't take a shower now because Ned's on the roof cleaning the gutters.
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You don't want him watching the shower.
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I don't. You know. You don't know.
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Yeah.
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You don't know if he's gonna come by and they're. You know, I'm put on a show.
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That's the worst thing about Ned. Not only not knowing he's gonna come, but he's also watching the show.
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But, you know, I'm not saying he's watching. Watching it, but, you know, he might. Walking by my. Oh, look, there's a. There's a window. And so I couldn't shower. I almost. I almost was late for the train to come in for the show that day.
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Wow.
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Because I can't. But I'm not gonna go in the
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shower when, like, were the gutters handled?
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None of the gutters are spotless now, so that's really the most important part of it. But at the time, I'm like. I had worked out, so I was sweaty. Can't go to work. Like this. But I can't shower because I felt away about, you know, Ned could just walk by.
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And there's nothing worse than Ned just spying on you accidentally in the shower.
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So I finally went. I said, forget it. I'm just going.
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Five, gutters. Four, landscaping, lawn and pool. Three, the H Vac hot water number one is roof problems. And the number two, most annoying general thing to deal with is plumbing. Well, plumbing is just such a wide array of.
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Yeah, hot water heat is part of plumbing, but.
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But when it's pipes, you got to go in the wall. Now you're destroying the wall in addition to having to figure out whatever the problem is with the pipe.
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If you have a leak.
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If you have a leak.
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Tracing the leak.
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Now you're tracing the leak. But we have a. It's just one thing after another. And again, the money can just add up.
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Yeah.
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And all this stuff, when everyone tells you how great it is to be a homeowner, all of this stuff just. And you go, wait a second. If I rented this wouldn't be my problem. This would be someone else's problem.
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No, it'd still be your problem, but
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someone else will pay for.
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Somebody else is taking care of it. But the problem that you'd have is, when's he coming to do it? Is now, like, acs off or hot water's gone until he can come fix it.
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And. Yeah.
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Who is it? Schneider. This was the super.
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We love Schneider.
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Right. He had to come fix everything.
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Yeah. Where Schneider. Right. Now I.
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Does every building have a Schneider?
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Oh, yeah. There's multiple Schneiders in my building, but none of them. Yeah, yeah.
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Multiple is not one.
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But. But none of them can replace. Can help me with my AC problem.
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No, this is.
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And you should have seen me on the phone. So I FaceTime Natalie, and she puts the guy on. He's like. He was totally a nice guy, but he's, like, kind of guilty me. He's like, listen, listen. If you don't care about yourself, whatever, but if you care about your daughter, replace the one in her room. I'm like, if I care about my daughter, you're my man. What kind of.
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What are you.
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What are you trying to do right now? What do we. What do you mean, if I. I didn't know.
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I'm not here to judge.
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I didn't hear you.
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Like, dirty. Yeah. That's one thing. But your baby.
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But if you like your baby, you love your baby.
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You don't want her breathing that dirty.
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So maybe you want to do so. Well, I Didn't know.
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Now.
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I know. Now, fortunately, look, it's not for me.
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You know, I got other jobs I could do.
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Now, fortunately, the AC has only been on for like, a month, and before that had been like a year since we used it. So she hasn't been getting responsible.
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It's not the building response, but I know you.
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I own my unit.
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Even the exterior like that, the fact that it's a. It's a wall unit. You. You own that?
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Yeah. I think we pay for that. I think that's. I think that's all mine. I'm gonna find out.
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I got an idea for you.
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Do you have an idea?
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I have an idea.
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Well, listen, if you guys want to weigh in and get in on it at all, your thoughts on most annoying
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things, anything on this list. A lot of that. That's pretty. Pretty much it.
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That is the list brought to you by the Allure Group. The Allure Group, where care meets compassion. I need someone to have compassion for me and my AC problem.
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This is such a summer list.
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Oh, yeah.
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This is what we. You know, in the summer, you get to a lot of this stuff.
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Well, this is why I'm dealing with AC right now, because I was looking around. By the way, the reason I had him come was just because the one in our room is giving us no air.
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You're not getting cold air. I'm like, it's, like, cool in here, just getting air.
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And then he comes in and looks at all like, these are all disgusting. They're like. And they could be moldy.
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So he's saying full replacement.
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He is of the clean it. He's of the belief. Oh, an opportunity. He is of the belief that it's so. They're so dirty that you'll. That as he put it, you're going to spend 1500 cleaning these fully each.
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Yeah.
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Whereas it's 2,500 to replace them. But to me, the difference is, I guess, either way, though, even to fully clean them, I think they have to come out, probably, and that means I have to get them out of this enclosure.
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But they come out from the inside. So the enclosure on the outside is just an enclosure. It's protected from the weather, and so they don't fall out. The exterior part of it is literally just so it doesn't fall out.
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No, but. But mine are in enclosures in my house. Like, I had built ins done kind of around them.
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I'd have to see it.
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I'll explain it to you here. Yeah, I'm just upset.
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Listen, you do what you want? Listen, I'd replace him. Listen, listen, I.
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Because I love my child, I would personally replace it. Now, I haven't talked to the girl. I don't know if you like her or not.
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You might not like what your finances are if you could replace this.
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Go for it. All right.
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I heard recently you may not have money to invest, so if you don't, I understand.
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Duct tape.
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It works fine. You know.
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You know, if people just use fans, you know. Yeah, just get fans if you want that.
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You could spit clean it.
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I love the fact, though, that he was, like, basically shaming you into replacing.
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Yeah. I'm like, hey, dude, of course I want.
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I heard you were lighting the pockets. I. I wasn't gonna assume anything, but I. I is. Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.
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I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us. We, wherever you get your podcasts
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You know how we do.
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467-369-800 now at 93776 to be part of the conversation. Full bank of calls here. We're going to get to as many as we can. How about Barbara in Florida? Hey, Barbara.
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Good afternoon, guys. How are you?
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Good.
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How you doing?
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I have to tell you, you are really a big part of my recovery because I didn't have you to listen to every day. I don't know where I'd be.
B
Oh, Barbara, thanks.
D
We're getting. We're getting there. But, Peter, I have to ask you a question. You're 46, correct?
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That's correct.
D
Okay. You're the same age as my son. You live in a building. You don't understand how things work?
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No. No.
D
Okay. Anything within your walls, you are responsible for.
B
Well, that part I know. I just didn't realize that AC units like that require that level of maintenance. If you don't know that there's a problem in any way. I did not realize.
D
Yes, but don't you. Don't you have a sleeve that your AC slides into?
B
A sleeve?
D
A sleeve? I lived in a co op in Lynbrook, okay. I had a sleeve in my wall in each room where the AC was.
A
But you had, like, ac. Did you have a wall unit? Like one that you could put in a window if you had to, but instead it was a wall unit.
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1. No, no, no, no, no.
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Okay.
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Just went in the wall. That unit should slide out of what they call a sleeve. You take the unit out, you buy another one, and you slide the new one in.
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Just get the right size.
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I hope that's what it is. I'm a little confused on what.
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The size.
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Well, I'm telling you,
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I had to replace two of them in my co op in Lynbrook. And the unit slides out. You buy a new one, go to PC Richards or whatever. You bring it home, and you slide it back in the sleeve.
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There you go.
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You don't even need somebody to install it for you.
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Let me tell you something right now, Barbara. Somebody's installing this thing. Not named me. Okay? Really?
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Yes. Come on. There's something, though. Oh, yeah. That's the best part, though.
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Barbara.
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No. Yes.
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Hatton will look at you if I was able to. And you just wipe that sweat off your forehead and go. It's all fixed now. I get it, man.
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Thank you for my laugh. I needed that. All I know.
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All I know.
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I'm sitting here with an IV in my office.
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Oh, man.
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Well, that's why. That's why I wanted to make you laugh. But, Barbara, you're absolutely right. It's such great insight. Thank you so much, sweetheart. It's good to talk.
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I keep on top of you like I do my son. I love you.
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I know. Love you, too. And I appreciate that.
D
And you three guys are so great together. I have to tell you. It's such a pleasure to listen every day.
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Thank you. That's really the world.
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Thank you.
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Very sweet.
B
It's been. Don't be such a stranger. It's been too long.
A
That was great, but I think what she's describing was what I thought your situation was. But during the break, you told me what it was and it sounds a little different.
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Yeah, I don't.
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I need you to.
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I asked for a picture.
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Ask. Get a picture so I could See it. And I can tell you how difficult it will be or not for you to do it. Either yourself or if you're gonna need someone.
B
Oh, look, there's a person. There's the person. I just found an old email.
C
Yeah.
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From Hamilton Air all the way back when we put these in.
A
Oh, you had those put in?
B
I did.
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Oh, so then you.
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Then they could definitely come off.
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What are you talking about? Just reach out. Let's go.
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No, no, no. I had them put in. But the question is. Okay, I found they were. Okay. So I didn't know any of this. I put them in in 2016. And I see on the email with Hamilton Air.
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Yeah.
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Is the designer who built redid the inside of my apartment. So he should not have done this in a way that would make it impossible to ever do anything.
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Of course.
B
All right. We're making some progress.
A
Of course you are. Just send me a picture. I promise you.
B
You want to come over and do this?
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There's a little part of me that does, but I want to make you do it. I want to show you how so you have that moment. Trust me, there's nothing better that when you finish something like that. The look your wife gives you, it's like the first day.
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Let me tell you, the look I'm getting right now.
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Not a good look. Yeah, she wants it done yesterday.
B
It's the you look. It's the are you endangering my baby look.
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Of course. And she wants it done yesterday. And what you have to do is give the assuring look of, don't worry, I got it.
B
We got it. We got this. No time.
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Don't worry, I got it. We'll get it done. And then when you get it done. But that tool belt on.
B
Oh, come on. Maybe just the tool belt.
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Just have the tool belt, have it on. Don't even use the tool. You won't need to. It's just. You're going to. You're going to need that moment.
B
Don't even use the tool.
A
Don't even need it, Colby. And Manasquan has a suggestion for the Major League Baseball All Star Game. Colby.
D
So, admittedly, while I was on hold, I did think of a few caveats and issues with my suggestion, but I'll throw it out there anyway. I was thinking about Bryce. I was thinking about when Bryce Harper mentioned aluminum bats for the derby. And then I got thinking, well, that'd be great for the game itself, but then the issue is the safety for the infield, and that's what I thought of all on hold. So yeah, maybe you could find a workaround for that.
A
But the Home Run Derby, though, the Home Run Derby. Because really there's only one person that would be in danger and that's whoever's throwing the pitches, but they're behind a screen anyway. It would be insane to see how
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far they get a ball.
D
I know, but like, obviously they would never do it because of said safety. But how cool would it be if you have an All Star game with a score of like 32 to 28 or something like that? That was just something that. Because I don't get jazzed up about the All Star game anymore. I used to, but you know, I want offense. I don't want 27 strikeouts. But I was going to add.
A
I agree. Thanks, Colby. No, it's not a bad idea. Look, ideas, that's what we do.
B
That's all we can do.
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You know, it's all we're about. We're also about though, Anthony going and getting the apparel that we need.
B
I love what you do for our
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teams and so where can we go for such things?
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Clock.
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They have championship gear to celebrate your team's first title in 53.
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Well, sure do.
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They did it again. They have done it again. We were talking about AC units and Argentina in extra time has taken the lead to one. Now they have an. They have supposedly nine minutes of extra time. They're so far at five minutes of it at 95 minutes. Two, one. Argentina. Wow. England going to make a couple of last substitutions here with under four minutes to go.
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Harry Kane, I need some, some heroics right now. How do we miss that?
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We talked for that long. Missed a goal and replace.
A
We were really worried about your and
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I appreciate you worrying about my unit.
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Yeah, always worried about it. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
Podcast Summary
Don, Hahn & Rosenberg
Hour 2: ASG Recap & The List
Date: July 15, 2026
Hosts: Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg (Don La Greca is off)
In this episode, Alan Hahn and Peter Rosenberg discuss the state of the MLB All-Star Game (ASG), their personal experiences with it, and the growing sense of fatigue and irrelevance surrounding the midseason classic in modern sports. They also open up the phones to listener suggestions about how to reinvigorate the All-Star experience—debating whether novelty or even total elimination is the best remedy. The hour is capped off with “The List,” this week focused on the most annoying parts of home maintenance—sure to hit home for many listeners during the summer season.
Who Watched?
Key Yankee Performances:
Historical Context:
“This is a nice part of the story…could this be a moment that lifts him out of it a little bit?” – Alan Hahn (02:51)
Bellinger reflects on how tough it is to even be an All-Star:
“My first few years in the big leagues… I was like, I’ll be here every year. Took a long time to get back. It’s such a competitive league… health, performance, it all has to come together. I really enjoyed it this time.” – Cody Bellinger (03:33)
Bellinger also praised Ben Rice and noted how fun it was to share the stage with him.
27 combined strikeouts:
“That’s not entertaining baseball unless you love pitching.” – Peter Rosenberg (05:03)
Alan and Peter agree: strikeout-heavy, low-intensity games have sapped energy from the event.
All-Star Game Fatigue Across Sports:
Interleague Play:
Player Opt-Outs:
Savannah Bananas/Harlem Globetrotters Influence:
“Is the All-Star Game for baseball purists, or is it a moment to entertain?” – Alan Hahn (19:03)
Peter: Scrap the Game
Listener Input:
Peter’s “summer-appropriate” Top 5, with Alan’s help.
(Timestamps for this segment: 28:04–39:43)
“It's the thing that costs a ton and you don’t really enjoy it… you don’t see it, you don’t know it's there.” – Alan (31:02)
“Nothing worse than Ned just spying on you accidentally in the shower.” – Alan (34:58)
Turns into a relatable therapy session on the joys and miseries of homeownership, including Peter’s AC crisis, maintenance shaming, and the weird pride of DIY fixes.
Barbara from Florida tells Peter, “You’re 46, but you don’t know how things work?” offering practical tips for his AC crisis and commiserating about home maintenance.
“I heard you were lighting the pockets. I wasn’t gonna assume anything…” – Alan, joking about Peter potentially cheaping out on repairs (39:17)
On ASG decline:
“Maybe we've reached a point in all pro sports—do we really need an All-Star Game?” – Alan Hahn (05:46)
Bellinger on being an All-Star:
“I thought I’d be here every year…it’s hard to be an All-Star…this one I really enjoyed.” – Cody Bellinger (03:33)
On home maintenance pain:
“It's like the craziest thing how much it costs. And you don’t see it. You can't even go, ‘Hey, you see what I did? I put a new roof on.’” – Alan (31:06)
On the nostalgia of scoring games:
“When Don and Michael still talk about enjoying scoring a game…it’s legitimately nerdy.” – Peter (08:57)
Self-awareness on aging and maintenance:
“All this stuff, when everyone tells you how great it is to be a homeowner, and you go: wait a second, if I rented, this wouldn’t be my problem.” – Peter (35:39)
For listeners who missed the show:
This episode candidly tackles why MLB’s All-Star Game—once a highlight of the sports calendar—has lost meaning for many, even among lifelong fans. Through personal anecdotes, nostalgia, and biting humor, the co-hosts dissect possible fixes for the game (“maybe just don’t have it at all”), crowdsource ideas, and ultimately, share in the everyday challenges that connect us all—whether it’s baseball fatigue or the agony of replacing a roof.