Hour 2: Baker & That Guy Thursday

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg, Hour 2: Baker & That Guy Thursday

Date: July 30, 2026
Theme: This hour blends New York sports updates with lively banter, listener calls, and discussions on everything from the Yankees and Jets, to WNBA, fandom dilemmas, children’s shows, and sports media personalities. The signature segment “That Guy Thursday” shines a light on sports figures behaving badly (or at least, questionably).

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Main Topics & Segment Breakdown

1. Yankees & Michael Kay’s Chicago Adventure

(00:44 - 07:00)

• Chicago Baseball Itinerary: Discussion centers on play-by-play man Michael Kay’s extended stay in Chicago as the Yankees play the White Sox and Cubs back-to-back.
• Speculation About Kay’s Free Time: The team humorously debates where Kay will spend his coveted off day, whether at Wrigley Field or enjoying city life.
  • Quote (02:56 - Don): “You think he’ll go to Pequods, have some pizza?”
  • Quote (05:18 - Peter): “Charlie might have a sip of his first beer at this game.”
• Listener Engagement: Show producers text Kay in real-time to resolve the debate, revealing he’s choosing family time over another day at the ballpark.
  • Quote (07:28 - Anthony): “Also, he’s not going to the game.”
  • Quote (07:34 - Anthony): “Even though it is supposed to pour all day.”

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2. Listener Interaction & Gifting Gadgets

(07:47 - 10:00)

• Call About Baker Mayfield to the Steelers: Listeners chime in on possible quarterback moves, notably Baker Mayfield to Pittsburgh.
• Gratitude & Gadgets: A loyal listener offers to gift Don a can-chilling device, referencing a previously discussed “microwave, but for cold.”
  • Quote (09:00 - Caller): “I did not invent it... But it’s my appreciation to you guys every day on the way home. You make my headspace a little better.”

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3. Jets Quarterback Debate — Baker Mayfield & Draft Strategy

(10:06 - 16:56)

• Value of Mayfield: Debate on whether the Jets should trade a first round pick for Baker Mayfield, weighed against drafting a rookie.
  • Quote (10:10 - Caller): “I don’t think it’s a good idea that the Jets part ways with a first round pick for Baker... They’re not a Baker Mayfield away.”
  • Quote (12:25 - Peter): “And now, you know, this is what Baker Mayfield’s going to be: locked for 3,500 yards and at least 25 touchdowns, which is like a dream for any Jet fan.”
• Thinking Beyond the Draft: Discussion about teams aiming for experienced, available QBs rather than gambling in the draft (Joe Burrow, Mayfield).
  • Quote (15:07 - Don): “It wouldn’t carry quite the same pressure... Baker is down a tier from there, but he’s still really good.”

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4. Bluey: More Than a Kids’ Show

(17:09 - 20:12)

• Listener on ‘Bluey’: A caller praises the depth of the children’s show Bluey, especially episodes dealing with real-life issues like infertility, and notes it’s visually designed so dogs can see it too.
  • Quote (18:16 - Caller): “I’m watching the show, and I’m borderline crying, and I’m like, this is a freaking kid show.”
  • Quote (19:15 - Don): “It’s crazy, man. They’re on peds, I believe.”
• Hosts Reflect: Both hosts share their astonishment at how cartoon shows can be profound for adults and kids alike.

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5. That Guy Thursday: Robert Saleh, Fireman Ed, and Sports Media Antics

(20:46 - 29:19)

• Segment Intro: Regular bit calling out a sports figure for questionable behavior.
• Robert Saleh’s Titans Quote: The Jets’ ex-coach supposedly said, “We’re gonna beat their —” about his new team facing the Jets. Discussion centers on whether he should “own it.”
  • Quote (22:12 - Peter): “And he wanted to make it bulletin board fodder... Now he’s got bulletin board fodder.”
  • Quote (24:45 - Don): “If you say it, well, then say it. Like, don’t half-ass it.”
• Fireman Ed’s Role: Listener and show debate whether Fireman Ed is being “that guy” for reporting the supposed quote secondhand.
  • Quote (26:18 - Don): “Is it redundant for me to then follow suit and call Fireman Ed that guy?”
• Modern Sports Media: A meta-discussion on how offhand comments or rumors become stories in today’s sports ecosystem.
  • Quote (29:19 - Peter): “But it was everyone doing their Yo, Yo, Ranger nothing burger. But nothing burgers all of a sudden end up on the plate of the head coach...”

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6. Extended Banter: Sports vs. Hooters — The Eternal Debate

(30:09 - 38:58+)

• Story Time: Recounting a Super Bowl trip to Tampa where Peter chooses a hockey game over Hooters, and the rest of the crew opts for wings and beer at the iconic chain.
  • Quote (32:04 - Don): “If the Hooters is, like, close and easy, I’d probably chill at the Hooters and eat wings and watch whatever’s on the TVs than be committed to a hockey game for a few hours.”
  • Quote (35:36 - Peter): “I’m going to tell you, I got talked out. I go to whatever sporting event is happening, whatever Super Bowl I’m at.”
• Listeners Weigh In: Peanut from Palm Bay calls to question the hosts’ choices about food vs sports, injecting further humor and audience engagement.
  • Quote (41:29 - Peter): “No, Peanut is an idiot. No offense.” (in jest)

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7. Fireman Ed’s Fandom Challenged (Again)

(44:35 - 45:15)

• Caller from Brooklyn: Takes aim at Fireman Ed’s Jet fan credentials and history, suggesting there are better standard-bearers for Jets fandom.
  • Quote (44:57 - Caller): “He gave up on the team in 2012. He’s a Dolphins fan to begin with... Should have given him the Charles Oakley zone.”

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Notable Quotes & Tone

• The tone swings from playful jocks-and-fans trash talk to sincere meditations on sports, family, and fandom.
• Standout playful moments include predictions about Michael Kay luxuriating in Chicago, fierce but affectionate ribbing over food vs sports choices, and Don’s theatrical mock-offense at being called “that guy.”
• The hosts demonstrate genuine audience engagement, following through on live questions, and giving unscripted space to callers' quirks.

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Timestamps to Key Segments

• 00:44 – Michael Kay in Chicago; start of extended “Where will Kay spend his Saturday?” debate.
• 07:47 – First calls about Baker Mayfield and gadgets.
• 10:06 – Jets/Mayfield cost and draft debate begins.
• 17:09 – Bluey call and exploration of its meaning.
• 20:46 – “That Guy Thursday” segment starts, Robert Saleh and Fireman Ed under scrutiny.
• 30:09 – Sports vs. Hooters banter.
• 44:35 – Another caller on Fireman Ed’s fan ethics.

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Memorable Moments

• Live Michael Kay poll: The team’s playful, multi-step text exchange to unearth Kay’s plans.
• “Microwave, but cold” tea: Listeners recalling and acting on a whimsical wish from weeks ago.
• Bluey: Adult themes in cartoons: Candid talk on how kids’ shows tackle adult issues and resonate with all ages.
• The “Hooters vs hockey” saga: A classic debate over what counts as a trip highlight, with ribbing about loyalty, sports fandom, and wing quality.
• “That Guy Thursday” double feature: Both a coach and a superfan get called out, reflecting on how rumors and attention-seeking shape modern sports narratives.

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Conclusion

This hour exemplifies the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg blend: a dynamic mix of New York sports headlines, customized fan service, self-deprecating humor, and fearless opinions. The interplay between hosts and listeners, combined with segments like “That Guy Thursday,” delivers both insight and laughs—perfect for fans who crave camaraderie as much as analysis.

Transcript

[Don Hahn]

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[Caller/Listener]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Caller/Listener]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

approaching 402 in the big city. Don Hahn and Rosenberg hanging out with Ethel. 6:30, we've got that guy. Thursday at 4:30, we've got Enn at 6. Mets, Marlins, they're coming up at 6:30 as they start a four game set over at Citi Field. Marlins came off a losing 12 in a row and then swept the Phillies. Kind of crazy. Baseball's kooky, man.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, you never know what you're gonna get. It's like a box of chocolates, as someone once said.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yankees are in the top of the seventh inning. They're scoreless with the White Sox after losing last night again in extra innings. They're one in seven in extra innings. Got a chance to take three out of four from Chicago or splitting the four game series. Talk about sheer bliss for Michael K. Do you know where the Yankees are tomorrow? You know where they are today, right?

[Don Hahn]

Well, they're shown Chicago.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, they're in Chicago playing the White Sox.

[Don Hahn]

Oh yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Where are they tomorrow at 220?

[Don Hahn]

It's something that for Michael is glorious.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Glorious.

[Don Hahn]

But he loves Chicago.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He loves Chicago. So where do you think he is tomorrow at 220?

[Don Hahn]

He loves it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's Michael K. He loves Chicago. A2, a2 10 first pitch in Chicago against the White Sox on a Thursday and then Friday, a 221st pitch in it. Wrigley at Wrigley.

[Anthony]

Cubs.

[Don Hahn]

Wow. He's. Oh, he's in heaven. Has he had this before?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I can't imagine he's ever had this before.

[Don Hahn]

So he's had a week in it. Basically it's going to end up being a week in Chicago.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. You know what? I don't know what the travel situ. They're nice. They're going to be staying in the same hotel when this game ends. Anthony, let's try to put a, put a call in the Michael to see if we can get him for just a second to just see.

[Don Hahn]

No, I want it to let him luxuriate.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But because. And here's The. Here's the deal. He just spent four days in Chicago with the White Sox. He spent the weekend Yankees, Cubs. I don't know if any of those games are on national television. Maybe Anthony could check it out. So he might, he might get robbed of a game or two, but. And then he's got. Tonight, he's got a Thursday night out.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, in the town. You think he'll go to Pequods, have some pizza?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that's not where he goes. He goes, doesn't. He goes to Giordano's.

[Don Hahn]

He goes to Giordano's. Yeah, I know that's right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But they're not on NBC on Sunday, are they? All right, so he so get perfect. He can go sit in Wrigley Field in his shirt sleeves, enjoy a game.

[Don Hahn]

No, if he did that, I got

[Peter Rosenberg]

to tell you, that's.

[Don Hahn]

That's too much.

[Peter Rosenberg]

See, we have, we have to get him on.

[Don Hahn]

But no, but if he did that,

[Peter Rosenberg]

you don't think he's going to go to Wrigley on Saturday for the Fox game or. I think he's just going to go out Saturday night and just go nuts, go to Rush Street.

[Don Hahn]

Well, he's not doing that either. Right, but he's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If he a 65 year old man,

[Don Hahn]

he's not going to Wrigley on a night off. He's just done. So you're telling me this series is a. This was a Tuesday through Thursday?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, this was Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

[Don Hahn]

It was a four game series.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Four game series in Chicago and he

[Don Hahn]

did all of them like you dream about?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

And then Friday they're right back at it again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Back at it.

[Don Hahn]

If he on Saturday to make it his sixth straight day at a ballpark rather than taking the night like a gentleman, christening the room, if you will. If he would. If he wouldn't rather do that. I think we've lost.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think he's definitely going.

[Don Hahn]

And let me guess, scorecard?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I don't think he scores games anymore when he's not.

[Don Hahn]

He better not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jacob, is he a Wrigley Saturday night or not?

[Don Hahn]

Come on, Jacob. I think he should. No, no, not about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, he will. He absolutely will.

[Don Hahn]

You think he will.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anthony, you need to break this.

[Don Hahn]

They really think this through, by the way, because I'm very confident in my vote, but.

[Anthony]

Yeah, I think you would be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm going to tell you something. You ready for this? Yeah, I think he might fly Charlie out for the game.

[Caller/Listener]

Wow.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I did. Why are you making a face by himself?

[Don Hahn]

He's putting Charlie. Charlie's going to fly for the first time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. Maybe the family comes to Chicago. I'm sure.

[Don Hahn]

Okay, well, that changes if the family is coming to Chicago for a weekend and Charlie's never been to Wrigley. Well, now you've completely changed.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I have not heard a thing. I swear to God, I have not heard a thing. Would not surprise me if he planned this. Family flies out tomorrow.

[Don Hahn]

See, now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now they're spending the weekend. Jody takes Cali somewhere. Maybe they go shopping or something. They go on the Wizard.

[Don Hahn]

They do women.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Things go nuts.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. Get the hair done. And then like men.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Charlie and Michael, like gentlemen. Charlie might have a sip of his first beer at this game.

[Don Hahn]

This. So this is the only. If that's the case, then I could see him going on Saturday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what?

[Don Hahn]

If not. He's not going.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anthony.

[Anthony]

I already have. So first of all, because Michael's a gem and they're in the top of the seventh inning and Jazz attempting to steal a base and is going to get picked off. Michael texted me and said I can't because my wife and son are here and we're going out right after the game and tell them I'm really sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I was right.

[Don Hahn]

Well, hold on. But you don't know when they're staying till today's Thursday. They're there for the weekend. All right? So please ask Pert. No worries. Curious, what are your guys plans on Saturday?

[Peter Rosenberg]

We just want to know is he going to the game Saturday or enjoying Chicago?

[Don Hahn]

But now that I know they're there, if he's never been to Wrigley, then he's going. I already gave you that. But I may. And then I want to follow Anthony, there's me a third text. The third text is going to be. Because if they are going, if they're not going, then you were just wrong altogether. But I think you'll be right. Now that I know Charlie's there, there's

[Peter Rosenberg]

no way they took a trip to Chicago to go see the White Sox for four games. They went to Chicago because they're the Cubs. Yankees. Cubs at Ray.

[Don Hahn]

Well, no, I think they would probably go because it's a rare situation where Michael's in one place that he happens

[Peter Rosenberg]

to be probably got. I wouldn't be surprised. Michael's family probably got in last night or today.

[Don Hahn]

I would think you're right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was taking the bus from the hotel to the stadium on Tuesday. He wouldn't have done that.

[Don Hahn]

No, no. They weren't there all week.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They were not. They probably got in last night or today. And judging by how the weather's been, was probably today. And I think it was for the purpose of having the weekend, knowing that they were off on Saturday to take him to Wrigley. To take him the Wrigley.

[Don Hahn]

I think you're going to be right on this, but I also want to then follow up. If Charlie's not there, would you have gone by yourself? That was the real conversation. You're bastardizing the argument.

[Anthony]

I have a response.

[Don Hahn]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, by the way. Well, play by play is going on.

[Anthony]

Well, they're in break right now. But at one point, there was. Enjoying Chicago.

[Don Hahn]

Enjoying Chicago. Correct.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Also, he's not going to the game.

[Anthony]

That is correct.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ooh, that surprises me.

[Anthony]

And he says, even though it is supposed to pour all day.

[Caller/Listener]

Hmm.

[Don Hahn]

I'm gonna. Can I just. I want to clarify.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why don't you jump into the conversation?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I'm gonna do this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

While we do this, Jason is in New Jersey. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Jay?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey. How you doing? Good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How are you?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm doing great, thank you, gentlemen. So I guess I should have some point of my call to your topic. Mayfield to Pittsburgh would make my day.

[Don Hahn]

I bet. By the way, I'm glad you brought that one up. We kind of slept. We didn't get to Pittsburgh. That would be a good choice, too.

[Caller/Listener]

You did not get to Pittsburgh. Yes. So, secondly, two weeks ago, you talked about that refrigerator that freezes things or cools things down real quickly. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just wish that they had a microwave that froze things instead of just made things hot.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I got a gift for you, and I just wanted to call to make sure that one. You were okay accepting it and that I was okay to ship it. I called Good Karma. They didn't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, well, Anthony will take care of this. We'll put you on hold after the call. Go ahead.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay. I didn't invent it. I just bought it on Amazon. But it works perfectly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And what does it do?

[Caller/Listener]

It cools one can at a time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And how long?

[Caller/Listener]

It does it in one minute.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, no. And you're sending this to Don?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that's awful nice.

[Don Hahn]

How is this an expensive item?

[Caller/Listener]

No.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, wait. Did you invent it?

[Caller/Listener]

No, I'm a. I'm a counselor and an educator. I did not invent it. I. I use it at my house, and it works perfectly, and it was not expensive. But it's my appreciation to you guys every day on the way home. You make my headspace a little better so I can be with my.

[Don Hahn]

Very nice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you, Jason. I appreciate that. I'm gonna put you on hold and Anthony will give you the information. I will accept this gift. I remember when we were first talking about this. I guess it was a couple of weeks ago and there were people telling me there is something that you could purchase, but I just didn't look into all the details. But if there is something that can take one can of soda and. And cool it in a minute, Peter, that's what I'm talking about.

[Don Hahn]

That was the dream.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When I have a meal that's cold, it usually takes about a minute to heat up in the microwave. Well, if I've got a soda or something that I want, cool.

[Don Hahn]

Why not?

[Peter Rosenberg]

This sounds good. Jason, you're a gem.

[Don Hahn]

What people we have. By the way, what wonderful people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Chris is in the Bronx. You're on. Don Hanna.

[Don Hahn]

Rosenberg.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What do you got for me?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Don. Hey, Peter. How's it going?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Good, what's up?

[Caller/Listener]

No, I just want to say that I don't think it's a good idea that the jets part ways with a first round pick for Baker and then have to pay him in excess of 50 million a year. They're not a Baker Mayfield away. They still have a whole bunch of holes on their roster that they have to fill. And the whole idea of having a top pick and using it is so that the quarterback draft can be cost controlled over, you know, four or five years. And if you add in the two, that is your tag years, you know, you could have them for seven years at a reasonable price. Yeah, I don't think it's really beneficial,

[Peter Rosenberg]

but I get that that's the dream, right? To be able to have a quarterback, inexpensive, under control, win a Super bowl, and then be able to add all the pieces that you need and then eventually pay him. But yeah, that's the dream. But also part of the dream is to have a quarterback. And the jets have a pretty talented team. No, I don't think they're a quarterback away either. But here's the rub. They still will have two first round picks after making this deal. If it only takes the one pick that we're asking, would you trade a first round pick? We don't know if that's what it would take, but maybe it would. You'd still have two first round picks, so you could still build your roster. Now you become attractive place for free agents to go play. I want to play with Baker Mayfield. I don't want to play with Geno Smith. I don't want to play with Justin Fields.

[Don Hahn]

I don't want to go to a place that has a. Has a placeholder.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I want a guy. I want to go play with a quarterback who's 32 years old,

[Don Hahn]

prime of

[Peter Rosenberg]

his life, and he's got some talented players. It's a team that's got picks. I understand his point. Yeah. Win the super bowl when the quarterback's young. That way you're able to build up the roster. But you know, the negative part of that is then you finally win, Then you got to pay the quarterback. You got to let go all the players that you had around them because you got to pay them $55 million a year.

[Caller/Listener]

I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, that's a. That's a decent point. Yeah, you'd rather be able to draft the quarterback, but, dude, who knows if any of these quarterbacks are going to be great? You don't.

[Don Hahn]

It's always a crapshoot.

[Caller/Listener]

That's the thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And now, you know, this is what Baker Mayfield's going to be locked for 3,500 yards and at least 25 touchdowns, which is like a dream for any Jet fan. And most likely those numbers will be even better because that was a good point Danny made. Evans got hurt. They were running the ball a little bit more. This guy can go out there and throw 4,000 yards for you. Then with the weapons the jets have right now, I mean, all of a sudden, now you're in the conversation, do I think you're better than the Patriots? No. But you're in the conversation now, being a playoff team, everybody thinks about Super Bowl. How about a team making the playoffs for the first time in 15 years? How about that? Ira's in Staten Island. You're on, Don on a Rosenberg. What's up, buddy?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Don. Peter. You know, Peter, you're 100% right, what you were saying earlier, Listen, with the Mayfield deal, in a second, I would make this. I. You know, you don't know what you're going to get. And that's what Peter was talking about in the draft next year. You know what you get in the Mayfield, they could spend the money. They have the room to spend the money. If it takes a first round pick and it takes maybe a player or whatever they have to do, if this is realistic, they just have to be having a conversation with the Bucks about this deal. Because now if this roster lives up to what everybody think it might live up to, you got some veterans, got some young players, you add a quarterback Like Bacon Mayfield to this roster. Now you're talking about, you know, potentially a winning football team. I'm not talking Super Bowl. Done. You said it perfectly in the playoff conversation. And then next year you got this guy locked up for four or five years. I mean, it just should be legitimate contenders for five years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think. I think it's a dream, Ira. I really do. I think it's a no brainer. So much so that it probably won't happen because it makes so much sense and maybe it would cost more than the first round pick. But you're talking about competition. Maybe Pittsburgh, after it's over with Rogers might want to go there, but I don't know. Do they have the draft capital? Do they have the room to pay a quarterback $50 million? I don't know, Miami, what do they have to be able to make this deal happen? Listen, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. But just it was a conversation about where is the avenue for the next quarterback. And Alan was talking about it for a long time. Why do we always look at the draft as the avenue? Maybe there's a quarterback. We're thinking, what quarterback could it be? Could it Joe Burrow? Maybe he's not going to be happy in Cincinnati. And now what ends up happening happens in the NBA all the time. There's some disgruntled superstar that just kind of comes out of nowhere. All of a sudden, Giannis doesn't want to be in Milwaukee. Guess what? We can now get Giannis. Well, now there seems to be a Baker Mayfield that's disgruntled in Tampa, wants a new contract. They're not talking to him. See, these things happen.

[Don Hahn]

You know what I like about Baker? Don't get me wrong. So signing Baker would be a really big deal. However, it wouldn't carry quite the same pressure. And again, it's not happening anyway. But it's not carrying the same pressure that a Joe Burrow would bring because Joe Burrow is in the truly elite tier. Baker is down a tier from there, but he's still really good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Burrow's younger and Burrow's younger.

[Don Hahn]

But Burrow also has the injury history. So I just feel like when Allen was in fantasy land last year just suggesting the idea. No, no, you guys were. When you guys were playing your yo yo games, and I immediately was no fun and shut it down from the very beginning. The thing is, Burrow, it's one of those things where it goes, oh, my God, it has to work. You're getting Joe Burrow. We better go to a Super Bowl. You get Baker Mayfield, you. My thought is we better now be a decent team, because that's what I think. That's the level quarterback I believe Baker Mayfield is. He will steady the ship and make you a decent football team. Will you take the next step? Will you go to a championship game? There's a lot that has to happen there, but he really would at least steady the ship.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. And that's kind of what I'm looking

[Caller/Listener]

at,

[Peter Rosenberg]

John Harbaugh being for the Giants, like, everybody's jumping to it. They could be a playoff team, and we'll get into that in a little bit. I'm just trying to get back on the rails. So are the jets. Fifteen straight years of missing the playoffs. So if all of a sudden Baker Mayfield comes here and all of a sudden you're a perennial playoff team, you maybe go to a championship game, and then five years from now, it's over, and you look back and there's no championship, but five years of playoffs, couple of playoff wins, fun runs. Thank you. Thank you for putting me back on the shelf here. You know, we're in the league again because we fell behind the couch for 15 years. It's nice to be back in the living room.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, we didn't know that. We've been living in a pile of lint next to a remote that you no longer have the VCR for.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go to Joe. He's in North Carolina. You're on ESPN New York. Hi, Joe.

[Caller/Listener]

What's going on, boys?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's all happened.

[Caller/Listener]

I. I wanted to chat a little bit. I have to listen to everything on pretty much the next day, so I listen to ENN every morning, and I was hearing you guys talk about how basically dramatic and deep Bluey is. And I don't have a kid, but I actually have two dogs. And I don't know if you guys know this, but Bluey is animated in a certain way that it basically allows dogs to see the colors even though they're partially colorblind.

[Don Hahn]

I did not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I did not know.

[Caller/Listener]

It is. It is the trippiest thing in the world, but one of the episodes I was just happening, like, peek up while I had it on for my dogs was about the mom's sister and pretty much how she was unable to have a kid. And they go in depth about infertility, and I'm like. I'm watching the show, and I'm borderline crying, and I'm like, this is a freaking kid show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right?

[Caller/Listener]

And it is. It is insane, but, you know, it's. It. Really deep show, but still amazing. Did you watch me for being.

[Don Hahn]

Did you watch the Sleepy Time episode yet?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, I was so, like, you want to cry watching it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Time for Sleepy Time Bobos.

[Caller/Listener]

When she goes in and the world. Yeah, like, the world, like, cracks apart and then her stuffed animals gone, and then you're like.

[Don Hahn]

But then at the end, when the end, the stuffed animal comes back with the other stuffies and they close the world in on her and she says goodbye. It's like, I don't even know how high are you guys? And what's happening to me?

[Caller/Listener]

I. I have no idea. Like, I saw that. And you're like, this is symbolic for when you go from being a young, young kid to that point where you're like, oh, I'm about to start being a preteen. And they're. They're talking about this in a 50. These episodes are like 11 to 12.

[Don Hahn]

It's crazy, man.

[Caller/Listener]

They're not.

[Don Hahn]

It's. They're on peds, I believe. There. There's. It's too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is. I did not know about the way they colorized it. The dogs can see it. I don't have a dog. Maybe you can test it with.

[Don Hahn]

A bear's a bit old now to even care enough.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, listen, I know it's over a lot of people's heads who don't have kids and wonder what we're talking about. But. But if you do. And I'm glad that. That. That caller was listening to the podcast and hearing about it, because it does hit, man. It's it. The kids, even when they go to the deep things like the infertility of the sister, the kids don't understand. They don't. There's plenty of other things for them to be able to enjoy your hair dirt about. But you as an adult are watching this with your kids and you're like, oh, my God, this is incredible stuff. And they're parents, so you might learn a thing or two about how they're handling something, because your kids might go through the same thing their kids go through, and it's just adorable. It's very well done.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said. Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. We all have that one friend. I'm talking about the Yo Yos who

[Peter Rosenberg]

set themselves on fire and bathe in

[Don Hahn]

pork and beans or know that we One person I'm here with my family who can't help but be. He's not cool. His voice is weird. He's kind of a dork. His brother's a tool. His girlfriend's annoying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That guy.

[Caller/Listener]

I didn't know it was banner night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We won't be out for that.

[Don Hahn]

It's time for that Guy Thursday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, guys, anyone want to play some

[Don Hahn]

ball with Don Hahn and Rosenberg?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's just being that guy. That Guy Thursday. It's always fun to do that. Get into who is going to be that guy. Quick update on the Yankees White Sox and the Yankees scoreless in the bottom of the eighth inning. Now the that Guy Thursday for me,

[Anthony]

Peter,

[Peter Rosenberg]

is Robert Sala. He, of course, the head coach of the Tennessee Titans. Now, Fireman Ed does an amazing jet show on YouTube and he's been doing it for years. He takes it on the road and he had Fireman Ed on his show.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Fireman Ed had a report about something Salah said about the jets game against the Tennessee Titans on opening day. But here's.

[Don Hahn]

This is Jake with Fireman Ed. Jake Yasmin.

[Anthony]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay. And here is Fireman Ed. What Saleh, what he's reporting Salah had apparently said.

[Don Hahn]

I had a little birdie that was

[Peter Rosenberg]

out in Tahoe that told me that Salah said they were going to be.

[Don Hahn]

I came directly from Salah. I can't say who said it to

[Peter Rosenberg]

me, but he said, we're gonna beat their.

[Don Hahn]

I said, oh, baby, put that on him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he wanted to make it bulletin board fodder. And Salah again saying stuff, all gas, no break. And now he's got bulletin board fodder. Now again, I don't know if it's true or not. Fireman Ed could be making it up or with a person that told Fireman Ed could have made it up. Maybe it was completely taken out of context, I don't know. But because Jake is. And his show is pretty big, it made it to Tennessee to where one of the reporters today at camp asked Saleh about it. I don't know, man. That was just made aware of it like 15 minutes ago. I must have had over a thousand fan interactions at that event. So who knows? But I mean, isn't that the objective anyway, though, man? Like, I don't think the jets are coming here week one to sit at the 50 yard line, roast marshmallows and talk about our summers. So we're getting after it. They're getting after it and made the best team win. Now here's why he's that guy. Own it, man. Clearly you said it. He could have denied it. No, I never said that. But he's like, I talked to a thousand people. If you said, we're going to beat their ad, I think he'd remember saying that.

[Caller/Listener]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You interact with a lot of fans. You were at Fan Fest a couple of weeks ago. You, you interview a lot of different people, you run into a lot of people, you remember things that you say. Especially if it's something like that. He's been around long enough to know that something like that's going to get thrown back at him. But then he turns around, say, well, isn't that the objective anyway? So it sounds like he wants to own it without owning it. If he didn't say it. Say it and say it. If you say it, well, then say it. Like, don't half ass it.

[Don Hahn]

Come on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We live in a world right now that you say something to somebody, it's probably going to put out.

[Don Hahn]

Can I get out? I don't want to ruin your. That guy.

[Caller/Listener]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. How can I change my mind?

[Don Hahn]

Okay, but let me push back, though. Go ahead. There's no world in which he's interacting with a million people. And someone just quick in conversation is like, what about the Jets? Week one, he goes, oh, I'm gonna kick their ass. And doesn't really think much. Literally thinks nothing of it. It's just a nothing thing to say. Is that possible?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I guess, but in this day and age, man, he just finished a couple of years in New York, right? When he said that receipts thing. Remember? Remember on the weekly with the K show, he says, I'm keeping receipts.

[Caller/Listener]

He.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He had to hear that all the time. Now, granted, that was on the radio and people heard it, but don't you have to know that when you're a head coach of a team and you say something that there's a very good chance, fair, that it could be taken. So if he did say that and didn't think it was a big deal, that makes him a bad guy. You gotta know that everything you say could be a big deal. But then I think he doubles down on it when he's like, well, isn't that the objective? Like, so he's. So just own it then.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. So even if you don't remember it, just be like, yeah, yeah, I probably did say that because that's what our plan is. That's always what our plan is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Perfect. You said I talked to a lot of people, but yeah, I probably did say that. Because I feel that.

[Don Hahn]

Who cares, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Exactly.

[Don Hahn]

Now, this is what he's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Remember when on the Case show, we're all taking receipts on all the people who continually mock and say that we

[Caller/Listener]

ain't gonna do anything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm taking receipts now. That sounded like it was from a press conference, but he definitely said it on our show. So he was said it. You gotta realize that you need.

[Don Hahn]

He's a receipt guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you. If this was his first year and he didn't ever coach in New York, I'd say, well, you know, Robert Sala, he was a defensive coordinator in Seattle and San Francisco and probably didn't talk to the media too often. Probably doesn't realize that these things live forever. Fans are. When you say something like that, somebody probably records it. Somebody's gonna say that you said it. So if you said it, then own it. But if you didn't say it, then don't say, well, wasn't that the objective anyway? I don't know. It just. It felt like that guy. Just because I like Robert Saleh. But I do think sometimes he gets caught up in the presentation of things. Like before the game, you know, running up and down the stairs at the stadium, you know, when he was the defensive coordinator, you know, hugging and jumping everybody when they came with the I. Dude, just coach football, all right? Don't. Don't try to impress me with all the pomp and circumstance. Different things. No gas, all gas, no break. Like, these things are stupid, man. Go out there and win football games. That's what people are going to be impressed with.

[Don Hahn]

Is it redundant for me to then follow suit and call Fireman Ed that guy? Or is it redundant because it's a given that he's that guy?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, you do. No, no.

[Don Hahn]

But I mean, isn't it. Haven't. Haven't I already basically done it? Wasn't there a time. Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't. Didn't he cheer on the plane a couple of years ago? And I said, if I was on the plane, I'd open the emergency exit and throw them off mid flight.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, yes. I'm not a fan either. I get. We get along with each other, but he's that guy.

[Don Hahn]

But this is that guy. Like you're going on a show, which is great. That Jake, you know, and this one makes Jake, you know, Jake is a big Jet guy and he talks to every kind of part of the jets world. There's a reason Mike Greenberg listens to Jake's show. He's a real Jet fan who talks to Jet people. So I get why Jake would have Fireman Ed on, but you're just kind of on there stirring it up, hoping to get a headline. Does it really. Does it really matter if he said he wants to beat the Jets? You know what? And also, do you really get the sense, Don, of all the people to have sort of like beef with on their way out? Are you really going to try to come up with some fakakta beef with Robert Sala? The team was bad, the quarterback was broken, nothing worked out. Does anybody really have an issue with Robert Salah? No one's really that you're being that guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, there's nothing wrong with, you know, Fireman Ed giving out information here. This is what I heard. I'd have no problem with it if he heard. If he heard Robert Salas say it. Now, he probably got it from a good source. But when you're giving out secondhand information, it kind of. Listen, Fireman had got what he wanted, right? He's gotten, you know, he brought something up that was talked about in the press conference with Robert Sala. We're airing it. I'm sure the fans aired it. So Fireman had got exactly we wanted. He wanted some pub. He got some pub. He was hoping that this would be something that would end up on the bulletin board in the jets wall before the game, right? Now, would I do it? I wouldn't do it if I heard it from somebody else, because what good is it, right? Even if I trusted the guy, I didn't hear it. I didn't hear the context. Maybe he was kidding. If he had said it to me, I would tell the world because he said it to me. Hey, you know, I was talking to Robert Sal the other day. He says he's gonna beat the jets ass on opening day. That's a story if I, if I hear it from somebody else, Peter. And now it's secondhand. I don't feel like it's any.

[Don Hahn]

I heard someone saw him and he said he's gonna beat their race. It's, it's, it's. That's nothing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No shade of Jake.

[Don Hahn]

No, no. Jake should have conversations like that. By the way, you got to fill a Jet show year round.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fireman Ed's a thing. It doesn't do anything for me. And I had my. I told my story of the interaction I had with Fireman Ed. We're good. Are you? But no, listen, he's not my cup of tea because I'm not a Jet fan, you know, but he's no big fan of yours. Everybody's trying. We're all doing it. We're all trying to get arts.

[Caller/Listener]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We're all trying to get attention. And he's trying to get attention. I'm trying to get ratings. I'm trying to get people to listen to my show, you know, so we're all. We're all in this doing something. But it was everyone doing their Yo, Yo, Ranger nothing burger. But nothing burgers all of a sudden end up on the plate of the head coach that ended up in Tennessee. That's the world we live in now. That's what Robert Sallit's got to realize. It's an absolute nothing burger that 48 hours later gets asked at a press conference in Tennessee. Because everything is something now. There's no more nothing burgers. Everything's a burger. It's just a matter whether it tastes good.

[Don Hahn]

Right? Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Still gonna end up getting served to you now.

[Don Hahn]

Speaking of burgers,

[Peter Rosenberg]

what do you got?

[Don Hahn]

I asked Michael K. Oh.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Don Hahn]

That's just something I said to Michael. Are you ready?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm always ready.

[Don Hahn]

Don believed that if you were alone in Chicago, you would have gone to Wrigley on Saturday. I said, no way. You would luxuriate in your hotel room. He said, likely not. And then he added, don would go to a hockey game if there was a convention of new cheerleaders at his hotel.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, probably, because what am I going to do with these new cheerleaders? No,

[Don Hahn]

there are people who might argue. At least it's entertaining.

[Peter Rosenberg]

For what?

[Don Hahn]

Just take a look.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So take a look on the way out to the hockey game or take a look for two and a half hours?

[Don Hahn]

Well, it depends what's going on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Then they call the police.

[Don Hahn]

It depends what's going on at this convention. I've never been to one of these nudity conventions.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, he keeps getting on me. Peter, you've heard the story before. We were in Tampa, Florida, for the Super Bowl. Mm. The Lightning were playing the Canadians. We were staying at a hotel that was right next to the arena. I think was Amelie arena at the time. And I said, I'm gonna go to the Canadiens Lightning game. And they were going to Hooters. And by the way, this is 15 years ago where there was a Hooters on every corner. It was worse than Starbucks. I said, no, I can go to Hooters anytime. I'm going to the Lightning Canadian game. And he made fun of me for that. Who made the right decision? Even though. Even if you're Not a big hockey fan. Who would you go with? Would you. Well, you're a bit of a suck up, but if. Take that out of the equation. Excuse me, if. Would you go to Hooters with everybody or would you go with me like a gentleman, get a couple of beers and watch a hockey game?

[Don Hahn]

It depends who's. There's so many factors. Where were you exactly when this whole thing came up?

[Peter Rosenberg]

We were in radio row in Tampa. Okay, Shows over.

[Don Hahn]

Show's ending.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who's there?

[Don Hahn]

Paint the picture.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. It's me, Mike Brownshur, Ryan Hurley, Aaron Spielberg.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Our program director.

[Don Hahn]

Right? And when the show ends, you go, hey, I'm gonna go to the hockey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm talking about it. The whole show. I'm like, all the lightning are home. They're taking on the Canadians. I'm going, who's going with me? And because everybody thinks that Michael K. Can do things for him. What's Michael gonna do? What's my gonna do? And Michael says, you know, I'm gonna go to Hooters. And everybody, like a bunch of sycophants all just follow him. The Hooters. And I, like an independent person of right mind and right soul.

[Don Hahn]

Broncher's here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Actually, I told you that I met the owner of the Lightning at the game because I had ran into him at the NHL store one time. At the NHL store one time. And I met him at the game. And he was the owner. He was the producer for two hours.

[Don Hahn]

Tell the branch to come in here. He's scared you're going to, like, yell at him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Look, because I. Now I'm not. Now I've lost confidence that he was there.

[Anthony]

Oh, he was not there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So. So it might not, because he.

[Anthony]

He looked at me like I had ten heads.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And when.

[Don Hahn]

And I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When I thought that, I put my hand up like, no, I don't need him to come in and say, no, I wasn't.

[Don Hahn]

Sorry. Sorry I missed that happening between you guys. So maybe it was Gunling or someone.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It might have been Gunling.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. Yeah, probably was Gunling.

[Don Hahn]

Now here. Now here's where I. Here's where I take issue.

[Caller/Listener]

But.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I met Oren Coolis, who's the producer of Two and a Half Men. I got to hang out with his nep. You met. You know, you met Lindsey who served you the wings at Hooters. That must have been a hell of a conversation. So how long you've been the Hooter at the Hooters of Tampa, Lindsay? Oh, no, since I got out of high school.

[Anthony]

That's great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's fun.

[Don Hahn]

And she's 60 now. Now, here's the thing. You're going. I know the route you're going, and I've seen it before.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The.

[Don Hahn]

Everyone needs to go be around Michael.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's cool, man.

[Don Hahn]

However, in this case, I'm going to push back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, come on.

[Don Hahn]

There's a chance, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's good to go in a Hooter,

[Don Hahn]

but hear me out. If the Hooters is, like, close and easy, I'd rather probably chill at the Hooters and eat wings and watch whatever's on the TVs than be committed to a hockey game for a few hours. I mean.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but that's not about. No, that's. I'm not good company.

[Don Hahn]

That's not bad.

[Anthony]

No, I don't think that's supposed to be mean.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, no, no.

[Anthony]

I'd go hurling the phone, trying to

[Peter Rosenberg]

book the next show.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Anthony]

But they're not going.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't want to go to a

[Anthony]

hockey game with Don.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Anthony]

The text, the thought for Peter stops at, I don't want to go to a hockey game.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Like, are the Pats playing?

[Anthony]

Not done.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, all right.

[Anthony]

You're a delight to be with all the time.

[Don Hahn]

Is.

[Anthony]

Is.

[Don Hahn]

Is Connor McDavid playing? Like, am I getting to see the best player in the world?

[Anthony]

He wasn't even a thought at that point. No, he was a thought.

[Don Hahn]

He was barely a thought in his mother's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but listen, the Lightning were good at the time. I was able to get credentials. I went down into the room after the game. That's where I met Oren Coolis.

[Anthony]

Little Ruslan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You would have met Oren Koulis. Maybe you don't care, but who'd you meet at Hooters?

[Don Hahn]

But why is about who you meet at just about a good time, sitting with your friends, gentleman having a drink.

[Caller/Listener]

Look at the motor.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Look at the four asses that you sat with for six hours at Radio Row. Now you're going to go sit, eat overrated wings.

[Don Hahn]

No, they're. They're very good wings. Let's stop it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't enjoy my company, that's fine. I could take or leave yours.

[Anthony]

Was this. This had to be the 091. Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

This is an insane. You have a lot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not an insane take.

[Don Hahn]

No, you have a lot of insane takes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm going to tell you. I got talked out. I go to whatever sporting event is happening, whatever Super Bowl. I'm Going to be at. When we were in Indianapolis for the Giants Super Bowl, I tried to go to the Pacer game. Nobody wanted to go with me. And I still to this day regret caving. Otherwise, I could have went to Market Square arena and watched an NBA game like a gentleman, by the way. But it turned out better because we ended up going to a restaurant where the Nets were at. We ended up hanging out with some Nets and Ian Eagle, and it was fun.

[Don Hahn]

Anthony.

[Anthony]

Hi, Peter.

[Don Hahn]

If you were in the exact situation Don just described.

[Anthony]

Correct.

[Don Hahn]

Except instead of a hockey game.

[Anthony]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

It was going to a random, completely random Pacer game.

[Anthony]

Hooters.

[Don Hahn]

You're going to Hooters, right?

[Anthony]

I'd go to St. Elmo's and get the lovely.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, you get the. I love how the shrimp sauce, like, you just. Just walk into St. Elmo's and get anything.

[Don Hahn]

No, but just give me. Just.

[Anthony]

Just put the. Give me the shrimp sauce in my hands.

[Don Hahn]

Open up your mouth and just take it right in.

[Anthony]

All right.

[Caller/Listener]

But

[Don Hahn]

I'll tell you what. If Jacob liked me enough because Anthony said something, I could see that getting cut. Otherwise, it was on the cutting.

[Anthony]

Oh, Vanilla Cavalier was on that team.

[Don Hahn]

But you see what I'm saying? Going to a game. And also important part. Don's leaving out. Don got a credential. Would everyone else have gotten a credential?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, because I was working with the NHL at the time. I would have gotten in. Okay.

[Don Hahn]

I just think going to a game feels like a bit of a commitment. Where did you watch the game from?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just sat in the stands.

[Don Hahn]

In regular seats?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Not in a suite or anything?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. We did that in Dallas. I hooked everybody up with suites.

[Don Hahn]

Now we're having a conversation, and they all. They.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They all bitch on go, and all of a sudden, Peter King's in the suite with us, and Michael was in dreamland.

[Don Hahn]

Well, hold on. Let me just say. I tell you right now, Peter King. I'm not. No movement. Free wings and beer movement.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just. Anthony, you would have came to the

[Don Hahn]

lighting, but he wouldn't have gone. If it was basketball.

[Anthony]

No, I wouldn't have gone. I would go to pretty much any. Don goes, anthony, let's go to hockey. I'm like, all right, sounds good.

[Don Hahn]

That's right.

[Anthony]

When I was in Fordham, I went to a UMass game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just.

[Anthony]

When I was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When we were covering a basketball game, I like going. When I. When I was in Anaheim, when the Ducks took on the Senators in the Stanley cup final, me and E.J. radek, the great E.J. radek. We went to an Angels Mariners game. Like, I like going to stuff like that. You know, wacky. Me, I'm a sports fan.

[Anthony]

Baseball would be interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But Hooters, There's a Hooters everywhere. And in 2009, there was probably one right across the street from your apartment.

[Don Hahn]

Well, but now, here's another thing. Let me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let me know these people, you know, they went because, oh, I gotta go hang my.

[Don Hahn]

That's not. That's not Hurley's MO. Hurley wouldn't go just to be with Michael. Now, in retrospect, I now understand Hurley's situation. We're going back 16, 17 years. Hurley had little kids at home, at least one little kid. So you're just enjoying getting to be off on your own. I could see just wanting to go sit in a Hooters like a gentleman and have a beer and some wings. Why are you taking it as a personal frontier?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm taking it as a personal.

[Don Hahn]

He's out of his mind.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If Michael decided to.

[Don Hahn]

Ladies and gentlemen, he's out of his mind.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Michael K. Decided, you know what? I'm going to go to the Lightning game because Tito Martinez is going. I want to swing by and say hello. They all would have followed him like the Pied Piper into the Amelie arena. And I would have been like, you know what? I feel like going to Hooters because I wanted to see how Lindsey's doing since the last Super Bowl. And I would be sitting there by myself and everybody would be enjoying Vinnie Le Cavalier and Oren Coolis in Tampa.

[Anthony]

Young Stamkos was on that team, too.

[Don Hahn]

See, I'm telling you, Young Stamp coach.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, I hate all of you.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said. Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Caller/Listener]

Hey, what's up, DL? What's up, pr? I. Originally want to talk baseball, but I'm looking at PR and so, Peter, you would rather eat hoodoos wings than hang out with Don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what he was saying. I think they're overrated. They're different. I get it. Some people like it. But, Peter, what Peanut saying is, you rather eat Hooters wings than hang out with Don.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, it's not what I'm saying. And he's wrong. Peanut is an idiot. No offense.

[Caller/Listener]

Come on, dude. I'm only going on what you said.

[Don Hahn]

No, Peanut, listen to me. It's not about the Hooters wings only. It's about. I'm with a bunch of my friends. One of my friends is like, hey, I want to go to a pro sporting event tonight that involves, like, you're locking in to sitting in little uncomfortable seats for two and a half hours to watch a game that I have no rooting interest.

[Caller/Listener]

What's different from Hooters? What's different from Hooters? When you're talking about that?

[Don Hahn]

I don't know.

[Caller/Listener]

When you sitting in a small seat eating crap. Chicken wings. What?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, with a waitress. That. With a. With a. A waitress who's coming by and with A menu and bringing you whatever you want. You're not wandering through the. What arena were you at? Amway Center. What was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it was Amelie arena at the time. What is it, the St. Pete? I don't even. They keep changing the name of the arena. That's not the same as.

[Caller/Listener]

You're leaving. You're leaving the Hooters to join John to join Don on whatever event. You already ate wings and had beer. You're leaving the Hooters to go and have fun.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, no. This was.

[Caller/Listener]

No.

[Don Hahn]

It was either or. We were.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. Just. Just to give you the context of the situation, we are at Radio Row in Tampa, which is at the Convention center, which is close to the arena and the Hooters. What are we going to do tonight, guys? What do you want to do? I said, I'm going to the Tampa Bay Lightning game. And Michael's like, I'm thinking of just going to Hooters and get something to eat and watch some games. And everybody went with Michael. But the thing is, Peter, it wasn't the game.

[Caller/Listener]

You can only watch the game once. You can go to a Hooters whenever.

[Don Hahn]

What do you mean? Hold on. Why can I, once in a lifetime, to go to a random hockey game, go to Hooters? They're both the same, by the way.

[Caller/Listener]

Hooters, not routine.

[Don Hahn]

You want to know the truth? I have 1000%, as God is my witness, been to more hockey games than I've been to Hooters. I've been to Hooters maybe five times in my life. I've been to 50 hockey games.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's just like, when in Rome, man. Like our. We're in Tampa, the Lightning are in town. Let's go check out a game.

[Don Hahn]

It's not exactly have a couple of beers. Hold on. It is at that time. I can't speak for now. A couple Stanley Cups later, I wouldn't have viewed that as, like, I'm in Montreal, I got to catch a Habs game. I don't see it the same way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but whenever I'm in a city, it's just me. But that's you that I want to see who's in.

[Don Hahn]

Anthony, that's not a when in Rome thing. Maybe now you could make the case. But back then, was it a when in Rome thing to go to a Lightning game?

[Anthony]

Well, okay, I'm not going to. I'm not going to pretend that, like, it was. Can't miss. But Lecablier, San Luis, they were on that team, so it was A for a person that likes hockey, it was something to do. Whereas Don.

[Don Hahn]

But not when in Rome.

[Anthony]

I wouldn't say when in Roman. If I'm not mistaken. I'm doing the math on it. Don, did you remember who they played?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Canadians.

[Anthony]

Oh, they were playing the Canadians. Oh. So it was the 53 win on the 27th. That's not a bad game.

[Don Hahn]

Not a bad game.

[Anthony]

Not a bad game.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, but how about who was the waitress at Hooters? That's the question.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I am just telling you. I'm taking it personally.

[Don Hahn]

I'm telling you out of your gourd. I'm right. I'm a. I've never been more confident.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Connor in Brooklyn. You're on ESPN New York. Hi, Connor.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, guys. How's it going? First time caller. Love you guys. I hate to sit here and defend my former head coach Robert Sala, but fireman Ed is a fool. He. He gave up on the team in 2012. He's a Dolphins fan to begin with. He moved here from Florida. He's not even really a Jet fan. Should have given him the Charlie Ozone.

[Don Hahn]

I love this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He should know, but I am list. 2012 was when I got in the conference.

[Caller/Listener]

Charlie Oakley. Oh, my God. He's horrendous. There's no reason. He just wants to stay relevant. I know so many more people, Jake Asmon included, who are better off, better Jet fans who should be lifted up by Woody Johnson and the organization than that fool.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I definitely like Mr. Super Joe Jet Fan. I don't get that anymore. He did. He did. He just. He was incognito and he didn't. Because he was getting ripped by some fans and he didn't want to go anymore. And then when he went, he wasn't doing the chant. Then he didn't chant came back. Whatever. I can't f. I can't follow the drama.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the

[Peter Rosenberg]

sausage is made, man.

[Anthony]

I just want to know. It's good.

[Don Hahn]

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