Hour 2: Bob Wischusen & Frozen Envelope

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast: Episode Summary Title: Hour 2: Bob Wischusen & Frozen Envelope
Release Date: February 11, 2025

In this engaging episode of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg podcast, hosts Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into a variety of sports-related topics, peppered with humor, insightful commentary, and lively debates. Featuring a special guest appearance by actor Ryan Reynolds, the conversation spans from broadcasting nuances to NFL quarterback dynamics and NHL tournament excitement. Below is a detailed summary of the key discussions, notable insights, and memorable moments from the episode.

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1. Spotlight on Bob Wischusen and AI Insights

The episode kicks off with a playful examination of sports broadcaster Bob Wischusen’s prominence and how artificial intelligence, specifically ChatGPT, perceives his career.

• Discussion Highlights:

  • Don La Greca introduces skepticism about ChatGPT’s ability to provide opinions, especially regarding Bob Wischusen’s role in NHL coverage.
  • Peter Rosenberg challenges ChatGPT’s limited knowledge, prompting a deeper dive into Wischusen’s contributions to sports broadcasting.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Peter Rosenberg (02:06): “Bob Wischusen has also done play-by-play commentary for hockey. He's called NHL Games for ESPN.”
  • Don La Greca (02:11): “There you go.”

2. The Joys and Challenges of Parenthood

Transitioning from professional discussions, the hosts share lighthearted anecdotes about parenting, reflecting on the joys and occasional frustrations that come with raising children.

• Discussion Highlights:

  • Ryan Reynolds humorously laments about balancing parenting with career demands.
  • The conversation touches on the dynamics between raising sons and daughters, emphasizing the unique challenges each presents.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Ryan Reynolds (03:04): “We call that Tuesday. I mean, that's every day.”
  • Bob Wischusen (22:22): “So far it's held true. Like, my daughter's an absolute gem. Where the one that gets in trouble is Marco.”

3. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets’ Quarterback Conundrum

A significant portion of the episode revolves around the NFL's New York Jets and the potential departure of quarterback Aaron Rodgers. The hosts analyze the implications for the team’s future and discuss possible replacements.

• Discussion Highlights:

  • Ryan Reynolds provides his perspective on the Jets’ decision-making, emphasizing that on-field performance should dictate player retention over talk show appearances.
  • Bob Wischusen and Peter Rosenberg debate the feasibility of replacing Rodgers with existing free agents or through the upcoming draft.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Ryan Reynolds (05:07): “I mean, does anybody believe that the Jets would take a quarterback that they think is going to end a potential 15-year playoff drought and move on from him because he does a talk show?”
  • Bob Wischusen (07:55): “If I had to guess who would be the quarterback on opening day, I would say it would be Tyrod Taylor.”

4. Anticipation for the NHL Four Nations Tournament

Shifting gears to hockey, the hosts express excitement about the upcoming four nations tournament, discussing player motivations and the potential for high-octane gameplay.

• Discussion Highlights:

  • Bob Wischusen and Ryan Reynolds speculate on player performances, particularly spotlighting Sidney Crosby’s return from injury.
  • The conversation highlights the tournament's venue in Montreal, adding to the event's anticipated intensity.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Ryan Reynolds (11:14): “When the puck drops, I don't see this being anything other than 1,000 miles an hour.”
  • Bob Wischusen (11:04): “These players are going to go out there and care and this should be some entertaining hockey.”

5. Rangers’ Playoff Prospects and Super Bowl Viewership

The discussion returns to hockey with an analysis of the New York Rangers' chances in the playoffs, paralleled with insights into Super Bowl viewership statistics.

• Discussion Highlights:

  • Don La Greca and Ryan Reynolds debate the Rangers' potential to secure a playoff spot, considering their current performance and competition.
  • The hosts reflect on the massive viewership numbers of the Super Bowl, comparing it to historical television events.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Ryan Reynolds (14:55): “As a Rangers fan, of course I want them there. Not having the Rangers in the playoffs, it's a gut punch.”
  • Don La Greca (23:35): “There's nothing better. Did you guys see the Super Bowl? Averaged 127 million viewers in the United States.”

6. Live TV Viewing vs. On-Demand Streaming

A nostalgic segment emerges as the hosts reminisce about the era of live television viewing, contrasting it with today’s on-demand streaming culture.

• Discussion Highlights:

  • The conversation highlights the communal experience of watching live events versus the fragmented nature of modern content consumption.
  • The absence of must-watch live events today is lamented, drawing comparisons to iconic television moments like the final episode of "MAS*H."

• Notable Quotes:

  • Peter Rosenberg (25:59): “It's so true, by the way. That's so insane to think about.”
  • Don La Greca (26:08): “That's where we are today. So you don't have to watch things live as much anymore if you really don't care.”

7. Caller Segment: Knicks Draft Conspiracy Theories

The episode culminates with an engaging caller interaction, where a listener poses controversial questions about the New York Knicks' draft picks and potential conspiracies surrounding them.

• Discussion Highlights:

  • Caller questions whether the Knicks’ selection of Patrick Ewing was influenced by favoritism, referencing a "frozen envelope" theory.
  • Don La Greca shares insights from a conversation with the late David Stern, hinting at behind-the-scenes influences in draft decisions.
  • The debate extends to hypothetical trade scenarios involving high-profile players like Kevin Durant, sparking lively debate among the hosts.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Caller (30:00): “Do you think that that was fixed for the Knicks to get the number one pick, or do you just think this was randomly picked?”
  • Don La Greca (31:35): “I can tell you that even David Stern gave me that quote, which made me pause when he said it, because I laughed and he didn't.”

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Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Don, Hahn & Rosenberg offer a blend of professional analysis and personal anecdotes, making for a captivating listen. From dissecting major sports narratives to sharing relatable parenting stories, the trio, along with guest Ryan Reynolds, provides a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of the sports world. Whether you're a die-hard fan or a casual observer, this episode delivers valuable insights and spirited discussions that resonate beyond the realm of sports.

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Transcript

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[Don La Greca]

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[Bob Wischusen]

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[Bob Wischusen]

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[Bob Wischusen]

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[Don La Greca]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers. All right, the 4:00 hour. Don Han, Rosenberg 880 ESPN we'll get back to your calls at 800-919-3776. But coming up right now we have Boba Shoes.

[Bob Wischusen]

My favorite favorite thing on Tuesdays.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How do you spell Bob's last name again? How do what Bob's last name W.

[Bob Wischusen]

I S C H U U S.

[Peter Rosenberg]

E N I think you got okay, let's see what Chat TBT says. What is Bob was shoes in known for?

[Don La Greca]

Hmm.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think it's thinking Bob was shoes and is best known as a sports broadcaster, primarily serving as a play by play announcer for ESPN and ABC covering college football and basketball. He's also the radio voice the New York Jets, a role he's had since 2002 where shoes and has built a reputation for his energetic and insightful commentary across multiple sports.

[Don La Greca]

Wait, wait.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nothing NHL here they not up to date on NHL.

[Don La Greca]

See ChatGPT doesn't give opinion.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hold on, help me.

[Don La Greca]

Opinion should be added.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let me ask does he should be.

[Don La Greca]

The lead voice for ESPN's NHL coverage?

[Bob Wischusen]

Should be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Should be.

[Don La Greca]

I'm asking what's the best hockey voice we have?

[Bob Wischusen]

He is very good.

[Don La Greca]

You notice you're sitting next to a.

[Bob Wischusen]

Guy that's pretty good hockey, but I don't. But not good enough to be on ES espn.

[Don La Greca]

He's not doing national stuff yet.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just said does he do any hockey?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, we know he's here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don La Greca]

We're just talking about him in front of him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, Bob Washoes and has also done play by play commentary for hockey. He's called NHL Games for espn.

[Don La Greca]

There you go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Particularly since the network regained broadcasting rights in 2021.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It knows.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just had to prod it a bit.

[Don La Greca]

So all that said by Chad GPT. Bob was shoes in here with us. Hey, Bob.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey Bob.

[Bob Wischusen]

Were you unaware of any of that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

See if it knows.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Just like the. Just like the previous segments. I'm sure the ratings are skyrocketing right now as you read my Wikipedia page.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it wasn't Wikipedia. It's Chat GPT. Yeah, and by the way, Chat GPT, it says. I said, how many kids does Bob have? Oh, Bob was using his five children.

[Bob Wischusen]

It says what was wrong with the previous segment?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, what the hell are you saying?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I was all set to come on and talk about the joy of parenting and continue that friggin myth. And you know, Peter, obviously that he didn't want me to be part of the show anymore, so now I'm able to tell him the truth.

[Bob Wischusen]

Well, listen, he can't get up from that last part. But you know, we enjoy being parents.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't do. Hold on, listen, let me explain what happened, Bob. My. What I sounded like when it sounded like I never wanted to talk to you again. That wasn't about you. That was kind of just because you are part of the Jet season. And it was more just like how are we still doing anything related to the Jets? That's all it, man. I love you. I'm happy to have you.

[Bob Wischusen]

You. And he doesn't read the rundown.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Maybe I'll lie and I'll tell you that you're going to love parenting your daughter her entire life.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, well, okay, tell me this.

[Don La Greca]

He's going through Bob.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When did it. When does it start to turn south?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, I would say you did it right. You got dogs first, right? So that means you will not have five children. We did it wrong. My wife and I got dog second. And now like the. I'll tell you right now, the conversation at some point will be had where you're going to look at each other and go, we really should have had more dogs.

[Don La Greca]

Wow, you're going, you know, you're going through something right now. We're going to move on because I don't want to put you in a place where this is going to be held against you because you know it will.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I got five kids and all of them are like in the teenager world. So like.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, that's just.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We call that Tuesday. I mean, that's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's every.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's every day.

[Don La Greca]

I haven't seen this world.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, you're kind of there now.

[Don La Greca]

I know I've not existed. This has not existed with me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Really? You're happy all the time.

[Bob Wischusen]

It's Easy all the time.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Every day is a gift.

[Don La Greca]

Love them.

[Bob Wischusen]

Every day's a gift.

[Don La Greca]

Love them. Every day's a gift. The gift that keeps on giving is Aaron Rodgers. Bob, the story, the latest story has in this meeting the jets telling him, well, if you're going to stay, you know, you have to come to everything. And when it comes to off season camps and you can't do Pat McAfee anymore, it's hard to believe that's the breaking point here, isn't it? I mean, it just feels like, why don't we just say we really want to move on, you really should move on and let's just move on instead of, well, if I can't do Pat McAfee, then I'm not staying. They can't possibly be that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

No, I mean, does anybody believe that the jets would take a quarterback that they think is going to end a potential 15 year playoff drought and move on from him because he does a talk show? No, I mean, you move on from a player based on the player and how he fits and the overall vision for the offense and you know where you want to go as an organization, not because of a talk show.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Bob Wischusen]

It feels like that whole story was, hey, the Jet. Aaron Glenn isn't going to tolerate that because at some point, what if he had said yes, what he said, okay, I'll show up to every, every day in camp, I will die. Drop the McAfee when they all, we still don't want you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I mean, to me that, that's, that's a football decision, it's not a talk show decision.

[Bob Wischusen]

So where do they now go? Do you feel, do they go experience or does this open the portal to try to do something in the draft or both? How do you think they're going to handle replacing Rogers to be all of.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It'S on the table. Right. Like, I think right now, if all four of us like wrote down like secret ballot, who's the jets starting quarterback on opening day next year, we all had to write a name on a piece of paper and slide it to the middle of the table, there's a strong possibility all four of us might write four different names on a piece of paper and slide it to the middle of the table. And that might even be going on in their own offices right now because again, and this is going back to when we first talked about Aaron Rodgers, whatever, two thirds, three quarters of the way through the season, will he be back? And I kept saying, there are way too many balls in the air to answer that question. Some of those balls are still in the air, like who falls to 7? Do either of those quarterbacks that we think are going to be at the top of the draft, but there are questions about. And maybe those questions linger and the teams at the top of the draft decide we don't want to commit the number one or the number number three pick to one of these guys and a quarterback. I mean, we never thought Sam Darnold was going to drop to the chance the year that they got him, but he did and they got him. They were even dumbfounded in the room that year looking at each other going, oh, my God, I think we're going to get Sam Darnold. So, you know, if I had to guess, I would think that they would try in this draft to address quarterback and maybe have a bridge quarterback like a Tyrod Taylor next year. I mean, could they. If they actually have a belief that one of these guys on the free age. I mean, to me, the only guy in the free agent market that really would really intrigue me would be Sam. Be a great story to bring him back, but would they commit those back here? To me, that seems like a big long shot. So, yeah, I think it's a really almost an impossible question right now to answer.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Bob Wischusen]

If I had to guess who would be the quarterback on opening day, if I would bet, I would say it would be Tyrod Taylor. He's got another year left on his contract. He's a veteran. If you drafted a quarterback, he can, you know, tutor that guy and you can win games with him. I think he can. We saw it with the Giants where he almost beat the Bills, had a couple of wins, you know, as the backup to Jones and. And with the jets, too. He made some things that would be. I would rather see that than signing a Kirk Cousins.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, to me, that I think Tyrod Taylor, Kirk Cousins to me is kind of a lateral move. I don't think either of those guys is going to be a guy like what Sam did. Go to a team and win 14 games. I don't see that happening with either of those guys. But they are both very capable. Run your offense, get you in and out of a huddle, execute the game plan, manage the game until a young guy is ready type quarterbacks. You know, maybe I'm not giving Kirk Cousins enough credit at this point that maybe he's, you know, maybe your aspirations would be a little bit higher if he were your starter. But I don't think. I don't see any of the guys that are on the free agent market this year and maybe not even include Sam, I don't know as being the type of quarterback that you're going to commit big dollars to long term and say, there's our guy, that's the guy. We're going to build this next go round around. To me, it's still probably going to be something that you're going to try and address in the draft. Now, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I don't know what it's going to be like when those guys sit down and they formulate their opinion of a Cam Ward, a Shadow Sanders or any of these kind of secondary guys in this draft. But the jets do have some trade ammunition as well. Like if all of a sudden Cam Ward is on the board a pick or two ahead of them and it took, you know, a good player plus their pick to move up a couple of spots to get their quarterback. You have a brand new regime, right? Like the pressure is not on this regime to win next year. They're brand new, so they will draft and I think they will build with an eye towards two, three, four years down the road. I don't know that there's a quarterback on the free agent market that they're going to have a belief in this.

[Don La Greca]

Year that accomplishes that goal that feels like that we could be in a reset when it comes to the roster and everything else. And that generally does happen with a new regime because you know, you want your own people. And so that's something that if you're a Jets fan, you got to buckle up. The last two years have been about can they try to win a Super Bowl. And now it might just be about how do they reset and become a winning franchise by building it with this new regime and coming up with an identity and everything else. Because the last time they chased a quarterback it was one of the all time greats and we all see how that. How that worked out. Bob, we're in the midst now for hockey of a. Of a. The season is now stalled as they will have the four nations tournament. Are you're part of this coverage I'm expecting? Yes.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I'm heading up there. I'm not exactly sure how the reps are going to be divvied up, but it's going to be awesome to be there and see it and be a part of.

[Bob Wischusen]

Does feel like even though it's something new, it's not World cup, but it's certainly not the Olympics, that when you see Sidney Crosby coming off an arm injury and making sure he's ready for this kind of makes me feel like these players are going to go out there and care and this should be some entertaining hockey.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, to me, when the puck drops, I don't see this being anything other than 1,000 miles an hour. Also, the fact that it's in Montreal is going to help, right? I mean, this is like, right, like, yeah, you're playing in arguably the city of all of them, American or Canadian, that would care about this the most. So they're going to, the players are going to feel what's going on in that building as well. So yeah, I think this is going to be like high level competition and that's fun. I mean, that's like what we all kind of hate, what all star games and all sports have become. It's, they're all kind of joke events. I mean, the NFL has basically done away with theirs because they couldn't even do it anymore. So this to me has a chance to feel like if, if you had the Ryder cup in hockey, I think it's going to be that kind of a feel. We've seen this in hockey before. They've had world championships and they've had, you know, international play, the Olympics, of course, but, but to have it right in the middle of the season with the best players is great.

[Bob Wischusen]

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[Ryan Reynolds]

You know, I mean, as a Rangers fan, of course I want them there. Not having the Rangers in the playoffs, it's a gut punch to go through an 82 game schedule to have them come up short. We had a lot of years there where it was like a yearly gut punch. You know, obviously I go through that in football. So yes, I'd like to have one of the teams that I root for in the postseason. But I don't know, Don, to me, I don't know that you're giving enough credit to the teams that are in the mix with them. I agree that on paper they're more talented, but they've been on talented, more talented on paper since the start of the season.

[Bob Wischusen]

True.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And we have, you know, like a 60 game sample size basically where it hasn't worked to this point. And now not only do you have to, you know, it's not a tall hill to climb in terms of points, but it's a hill to climb in terms of the number of teams you also have to climb over. So are they going to climb over, you know, three, four, five teams to get one of those spots?

[Bob Wischusen]

No, it's tough. It's very. That's why 27 games is not really a lot of games left. You might think it is. In baseball it would be with all these three point games, all these teams playing each other. But I do think the difference is when you look at the difference between last year's team and this year's team has been the power play. J.T. miller is going to help that power play. And I think if they can play at the level on the power play they did last year, I think that can make all the difference. And listen, Ottawa's been good, Detroit's been streaky. Columbus, I don't know how they're doing it with all the injury. Boston, they've got a minus 25 goal differential. So I do respect those teams, Bob, But I think at the end of the day, with the addition of J.T. miller, the opportunity is there. But you're also right, you got to go out there and take it. And if you get games like you did Friday against Pittsburgh, then you're going to make it impossible for yourself.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You're right. No, if they flip the power play, you're right. I mean, they want a President's trophy largely on the strength of their power play, the power play back. You know, they would have in most games like a 2/3 of a goal advantage just by getting a couple of power plays when the game started. And then you just have to basically play the game even at five on five and you're winning like three every four games. It's been the opposite this year. And I don't know, to me it's hard to look away from a 60 game sample size and look at the last, you know, 20 some odd games and say I haven't learned what I need to learn. But there's always a team that at some point, especially after a break like this, goes on a bit of a run, one of these teams is going to do it right? There will be a team that has a hot like late February to late March run where they play really well for six weeks and all of a sudden surprises. It absolutely could be the race.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you, did you enjoy the Kendrick Lamar halftime there, Bob?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Was that the halftime show?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He didn't watch at all, huh?

[Don La Greca]

He said he doesn't.

[Ryan Reynolds]

No, I was not even.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not even on you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I was transporting people with fish, you know, on in the car and then got back, you know, for that really competitive second half.

[Bob Wischusen]

I love Bob.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he's. He's your kind of guy. He keeps it real. He doesn't make any bones about it.

[Bob Wischusen]

Well, he doesn't have to prove anything.

[Don La Greca]

No, you get enough. Watch this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You get a bad. You get bad enough football 18 weeks a year, you don't have to watch.

[Bob Wischusen]

A bad do that.

[Don La Greca]

But that was unnecessary.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Who would you guys have given the MVP to? Because I had a theory I had.

[Don La Greca]

Josh sweat for the mbt. Yeah, I had Josh.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think they should have a new rule because football being the ultimate team game where they should have like not just you can make it the most valuable player or the most valuable, like, you know, position, group or unit. They should have given the most valuable player to the Eagles defensive line.

[Don La Greca]

100%. Yes.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That was the difference in that game. You will never see one position group win a game more decisively for a team than those four or six guys or whatever in that rotation won that game for them. That was the game. Patrick Mahomes, he played poor, poorly, but he was like. To put it on him as if he played poorly is not giving the Eagles defensive line as much credit as they deserve. No quarterback was going to play well in that game against those guys. The way they rushed the passer and never had the blitz that was the dominant.

[Bob Wischusen]

Bob, were you surprised that Eli didn't get in on the first ballot? As much as a consensus as it was that he was that distant not getting in a first ballot.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I probably not surprised that he didn't get in on the first ballot, but probably, as you said, surprised that it was, I guess, kind of lopsided. I think Eli is probably looked upon by too many voters in that lens of. All right, he compiled a lot of stats, he had two great runs. We're going to put him in. But to put him in right away means that we're going to put him on the level of, you know, the Montana's and the Marinos and the Elways and we're not doing that. And I guess I understand why it's kind of the hall of Fame. I mean different. A lot of sports do it like baseball. We see it all the time. Right. Nobody, you know, for years and years was unanimous that there seems to be this kind of way that hall of Fame voters deliver a message with a guy that ultimately gets in. But we're not going to put you on the level of the guys that are automatic. Eli's going to get in the hall of Fame. I mean his numbers are too prodigious and you know, to win the two titles the way he won them, I think he gets in clearly. But you know, I guess I'm not shocked that they kind of sent a little bit of a. A message by not letting him in this year.

[Don La Greca]

Well, Bob, they tell me this is the last of your scheduled appearances on the show. No, but I would hope that it is not the last of your appearances on the show.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, I mean, as long as Peter don't want to take a victory lap. But it's all over. Then I'll come back.

[Don La Greca]

You did hear that. I heard that too. I did hear that.

[Bob Wischusen]

He doesn't know you like we know I love you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Kidding.

[Bob Wischusen]

I love you. Love. But you.

[Don La Greca]

But this guy's a treasure.

[Bob Wischusen]

You just don't know him the way we know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe not.

[Bob Wischusen]

Or what I know. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know you speak for. I think I know him as well as Alan.

[Don La Greca]

I've just been a fan of. Of Bob's. Like I definitely don't know him as well as Don knows him, but I've just been a big fan of him and as a person and an announcer.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So listen, I love Bob. I just, you know, it reminded me of the Jets. When I think of the Jets, I get. I get upset.

[Bob Wischusen]

I love Bobby.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love Bobby. We love you, Bobby. Love you, Bobby.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You guys are the best.

[Don La Greca]

Well, you know what?

[Ryan Reynolds]

The first. The first night that, you know the kid sneezes in Peter's face with the norovirus.

[Bob Wischusen]

Too soon.

[Don La Greca]

Thanks, Bob.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Way too soon.

[Bob Wischusen]

I mean, there's a very good chance that's gonna happen.

[Don La Greca]

We'll see you.

[Bob Wischusen]

Thanks. I mean, that's. That's an awful thing, but that kind of evil on you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did he just wish illness on my child and myself?

[Bob Wischusen]

Well, no, he wished it on you.

[Don La Greca]

I think he just wanted you to get the experience of it.

[Bob Wischusen]

He wish. It's like he wished that on you through the vehicle of your child.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's really upsetting. And boy, he really sounded vessel of your child's nose. He sounded quite down on his kids this year.

[Don La Greca]

There's something going on in the house right now. Right.

[Bob Wischusen]

That's what everybody told me about girls, is that they're better than boys as infants up until about 12. And then it flips and then the girls become maniacs and then the boys are easier to deal with. That's what people have told me. So far it's held true. Like, my daughter's an absolute gem. Where the one that gets in trouble is Marco.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Bob Wischusen]

So.

[Don La Greca]

But the boys are always gonna be a psycho. You gotta let him be a psycho. Let him. Oh, but.

[Bob Wischusen]

Well, to an extent, when. When. When Marco's at the top of the stairs and screams, daddy, I've gotta be ready to catch him. Because now he's in there.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Bob Wischusen]

And if I don't catch him, what happens? Which is possible. You know, then we're at the ER.

[Don La Greca]

And the origin didn't care. Cause and effect.

[Bob Wischusen]

You would think but no, for some reason, it just seems to embolden him.

[Don La Greca]

Zach decided one time he was going to go bounding down the stairs. We had a dog gate. We didn't want the dog to go upstairs and whatever. And he thought, I'm just going to hop over the gate. Didn't happen. Face first. Complete face.

[Bob Wischusen]

Oh, no.

[Don La Greca]

Cause and effect. Did he ever try to do that again? Nope.

[Bob Wischusen]

I've got so many videos of Marco in midair over Jalen, and Jalen looking up going, oh, Marco. Marco looking evil.

[Don La Greca]

There's nothing better. Did you guys see the Super Bowl? Averaged 127 million viewers in the United States.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. And halftime did it.

[Don La Greca]

Almost like, who wasn't watching?

[Peter Rosenberg]

For all the people who thought the halftime was a debacle, it was like.

[Bob Wischusen]

The highest watch ever. We know where people are coming from there, but.

[Don La Greca]

But 127 million viewers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was thinking about that.

[Bob Wischusen]

Is there anything else? And this includes Oscars, president speeches, Olympics, where everyone universally takes an A. They literally have no competition. No one does anything. There's no new program up against it. There's no other sports on. Like, how much does that help to where we as a nation have just said, this is what we have to watch.

[Don La Greca]

Like, like the final episode of mash, right? Well, yeah, everybody had to see it.

[Bob Wischusen]

Which was just crazy. That would. There would ever be a show that everyone universally said, I have to now.

[Don La Greca]

Watch, I have to see it.

[Bob Wischusen]

But this is like, even if you're not interested in football, it's like, what else am I going to do?

[Don La Greca]

But you know what the problem is?

[Bob Wischusen]

Do you see, like, it's deserted, like nothing else in this nation, that. Where our streets are deserted?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, because you know why? Because you can watch it at another time. You couldn't 30 years ago and 40 years ago and 50 years ago, whatever happened, like the moon landing, there was. There was no, like, oh, I'm DVRing it.

[Bob Wischusen]

Do you do.

[Don La Greca]

Or watch the highlights on YouTube later? I don't want to sit and wait through the whole thing. No, you had no choice. Now you do.

[Bob Wischusen]

Is there a show. Real quick, is there a show that you watch? Sitcom or whatever, weekly episode, episodic TV that you watch?

[Don La Greca]

Okay.

[Bob Wischusen]

Do you have a show?

[Don La Greca]

I mean, I have one that I'm waiting, like, three years to see the next season.

[Bob Wischusen]

Well, see, that's the thing. Imagine having your favorite show on once a week, and if you miss it, then maybe in the summer, if you're around, you'll be able to see it.

[Don La Greca]

That's amazing.

[Bob Wischusen]

Like, think about that. There's a whole generation of people that.

[Don La Greca]

Get that great point.

[Bob Wischusen]

Like imagine watching Breaking Bad, right? And you miss the episode. You have to wait for A and E to repeat it in the summer for you to be able to catch that episode. But there's going to be another episode next week. You're not going to know what the heck's going on. This is like pre vcr. Like you had to be in front of your tv, otherwise you're dead. Who shot Junior?

[Don La Greca]

You need.

[Bob Wischusen]

You needed to watch Dallas. Otherwise you didn't know who shot Junior.

[Don La Greca]

Quiet. I'm watching my program.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's so true, by the way. That's so insane to think about.

[Don La Greca]

But that's where we are today. So you don't have to watch things live as much anymore if you really don't care. But no, I got to watch it. But I don't feel like.

[Bob Wischusen]

But.

[Don La Greca]

But for that.

[Bob Wischusen]

That presentation of awful, terrible football, 126 million people watching.

[Don La Greca]

Capped out at 137.7, by the way. That's a lot of people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do we know when that was?

[Don La Greca]

Second quarter. Yeah. Second quarter peak 37.7. Peter, tell me about Bath Fitter. I'm very interested.

[Bob Wischusen]

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[Bob Wischusen]

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[Bob Wischusen]

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[Don La Greca]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don La Greca]

Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. All right, game time. Brought to you by Telling Mardu Irish Whiskey. Because when it's game time, it's Tully time. Knicks and the Pacers tonight in Indiana. The coverage begins immediately following us right here on 880 at 7. The game is on TNT nationally, so Reggie Miller's on the call, but, oh, we love it. We have a game on msg, so if you can get it, which I know not everybody's getting MSG these days because of the optimum thing, but if you get msg, I'm sure you'd prefer to watch it there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, we got a little Alan hot on the sidelines.

[Don La Greca]

Not sidelines. This is a road game. I'm in the studio.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're not going to make it to Indiana.

[Don La Greca]

Will not make it to Indiana. I'll be on the sidelines tomorrow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Little post, though. Little?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, a little pre and post.

[Bob Wischusen]

Well, there is somebody in this room that shows the national broadcast in situations like this before. That is true, but he's learned his lesson.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that was a long time ago.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It was a long.

[Bob Wischusen]

We'll find out tonight, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's a long time. Although, I gotta tell you, I do enjoy Reggie Miller.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, Lord.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Kevin Harlan. Reggie, you don't.

[Don La Greca]

Is it Kevin Harlan?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, they're always together.

[Don La Greca]

You sure?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Almost. Or could it be Brian Anderson? You don't enjoy a Harlan Reggie vehicle.

[Don La Greca]

I like Harlan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Come on. Are you really being that guy just.

[Bob Wischusen]

Because of the neck thing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, come on.

[Bob Wischusen]

He's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's joking. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't even try. Come on.

[Don La Greca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

We love Dave.

[Don La Greca]

Hello, Dave.

[Caller]

Hey, how you guys doing? I just wanted to say make a statement about the Giants, and then I have to ask Alan a real big question. That you may or may not answer. All the Knicks Giants should. Should take Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter. You know, for sure you're getting a really, really, really good player. Then just.

[Don La Greca]

But what if they're off the board? What if they're both gone?

[Caller]

Oh, geez, I didn't think about that.

[Don La Greca]

Well, then, yeah, I mean, the mocks right now.

[Caller]

Then I would say, why, you know, I would take Warren from. I would take Warren the tight end. I don't want either one of those.

[Don La Greca]

Wow, a tight end at 3.

[Bob Wischusen]

You're not taking a tight.

[Don La Greca]

You're not taking.

[Caller]

He's an all pro. He's an all pro.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, but you'll. You'll. But you can. You can trade back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's the highest drafted tight end in history?

[Don La Greca]

You're not taking a tight end.

[Bob Wischusen]

You're not Kyle Brady. Taken. And that didn't go well.

[Caller]

Let me get to the. The meat and potatoes here, because this is. It's not going to end the friendship. My friend keeps texting me right now, and he texted me yesterday. He said, ask Alan Hannah. And then that will end this debate for four years.

[Don La Greca]

Let's do it.

[Caller]

Years and years and years ago, Peter saw the cc. So everybody saw it when they rolled that thing around with all the envelopes in it. Okay. And they pulled the envelope out and the Knicks got the number one pick, 1985 Patrick Ewing.

[Don La Greca]

Hold on.

[Caller]

You know, you know what I'm about to say. Let me just get through the whole question. Okay, Your answer. Your answer is big. And then they pulled the envelope out. I'm not going to lead the witness. I'll just ask you the simple question. In your opinion, which I told my friend, you're not going to say on the air me behind closed doors. You'll say, in your opinion when they pulled the envelope out that I thought was cold. Okay, anybody who knows the Knicks, do you think that that was. Do you think that that was fixed for the Knicks to get the number one pick, or do you just think this was randomly picked and the Knicks ended up with the number one pick? That's the first question. The next one I got.

[Don La Greca]

Okay, quick. I talked to David Stern, the late, great David Stern about this. You want to hit the drop thing? Go ahead. Because I was doing a story.

[Caller]

No, no, no, please, go ahead. David Stern's not going to admit it.

[Don La Greca]

I let you finish. So I asked him directly about that, and I said, what did you think? The moment that the card that came out was the Pacers, which meant the Knicks was going. Would one Win the draft. And he said, and you quote to me, I thought to myself, oh, my God, they're gonna wonder how I did it. End quote. That's what he told me. It's in Newsday. You could. I don't know if it's in the archive somewhere, but the quote is in Newsday from many years ago. And so we had that conversation. Now, I've talked to a lot of people about it over the years, Dave, I will tell you. Do I think. Yes, I do. I do think that Patrick Ewing in some way was connected to New York to put him in a big market. Now, I don't know how, I don't know if it's frozen or bent or whatever it was, but I can tell you that even David Stern gave me that quote, which made me pause when he said it, because I laughed and he didn't. So I'll leave it there. But if you ask me, how do I feel personally? Yeah. I mean, think about it. Back then, the major markets all had stars. Boston, Chicago, New York, L.A. all right.

[Caller]

You answered that one. How about one more? The trade deadline is all over with, obviously. Would the Knicks have a better team right now? It can't happen. It's a wackiest thing in the world. My friend thinks no. Bridges and Hart get traded right now, today for Kevin Durant. Do the Knicks have a better chance of winning the championship with Kevin Durant? No. Heart and no Bridges?

[Don La Greca]

No.

[Caller]

Or do they have a better chance? Bridges and heart?

[Don La Greca]

With Bridges and heart, they don't.

[Caller]

You don't think that if Kevin Durant was on the team right now, today.

[Don La Greca]

No. No. You want me to explain why not? Here's the answer. Because they don't have enough depth as it is. And you just took another player away for a 36 year old who. Yes. Is still an elite player who's absolutely 20,000 times better. Again, you're missing the point. What, do people complain already? These guys play too many minutes. Kevin Durant would have to play 38 minutes a game. Right, Dave? Dave, I'm just telling you. You asked me my opinion. I'm telling you. I don't think so. Because of the fact that now you have one less player you can play. And I don't know that he can play easily. He's right now with Devin Booker and they don't win. And you're gonna put him with Jalen Brunson and say they're gonna be better even though the Bridges and Hart who have unbelievable chemistry with Brunson? Are you not listening to me, he plays with Devin Booker and Bradley Beal and they lose, Dave. They lose games.

[Caller]

I don't. I don't have a high opinion, bro.

[Don La Greca]

I'm just telling you. They built a team like that and they lose. Dave, you asked my opinion. I gave you my opinion. That's what I think. I love Kevin Durant, but you're taking away Dave depth, which is already a problem. Yes. And he's 36, so he'll have to play 38 minutes a game, and he's not winning now. That's what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Am I crazy?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, no, that makes sense. You're not crazy.

[Bob Wischusen]

You articulated it perfectly.

[Don La Greca]

All right.

[Bob Wischusen]

And as far as the. The great answer man, because that. A lot of people believe that that envelope was frozen.

[Don La Greca]

If you look at that era, David Stern had all the major markets. Adam Silver's more about the small markets. David Stern was about the major markets in the beginning, getting everyone. Detroit, Chicago, Boston, Philly. Everybody had a star.

[Bob Wischusen]

So how many envelopes were in there?

[Don La Greca]

I forget how many were in that lottery that year, but here's it.

[Bob Wischusen]

So New York, Indiana went two, Clippers, three, Sonics, four.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Four.

[Don La Greca]

Right. Why would you.

[Bob Wischusen]

Sacramento Kings think about all those Warriors?

[Don La Greca]

You're not sending him to any of those. Patrick Ewing in any of those markets. He was the biggest star in college basketball.

[Bob Wischusen]

Biggest star. So it was. You would understand it. And here's what's interesting. Of the top nine picks of that draft, three of them ended up playing with the Knicks. Xavier McDaniel played for the Knicks. He went four and Charles Oakley went in ninth.

[Don La Greca]

Wow.

[Bob Wischusen]

And ended up playing for the nextgot.

[Don La Greca]

About that one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

But that.

[Bob Wischusen]

It did make sense. Like, not all conspiracy theories are crazy. Are crazy. Some of them make sense.

[Don La Greca]

But he really said that to me. When I asked him, he goes, people are going to say, how did I do it? And I laughed because. And then he didn't laugh. So thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.