Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary
Episode: Hour 2: Bob Wischusen joins the show
Release Date: January 28, 2025
Introduction of Bob Wischusen
Timestamp: [00:38] – [01:04]
The episode kicks off with Don Hahn introducing the second hour of the podcast, welcoming Bob Wischusen to the discussion. Don emphasizes the significance of Bob's insights, setting the stage for an in-depth analysis of the New York Jets' current situation.
Bob Wischusen’s Analysis of Aaron Glenn
Timestamp: [01:04] – [05:06]
Don Hahn transitions the conversation to Bob Wischusen's report, focusing on Aaron Glenn's recent press conference as the head coach of the New York Jets. Don remarks, "I came away impressed. I felt good about what he was saying, the messaging and the way he delivered the message." ([01:04])
Bob echoes these sentiments, highlighting Glenn's leadership qualities and his seamless fit with the Jets organization. At [01:34], Bob states:
"He delivered that message yesterday and I think something else that will register with Jet fans... there is this like he's one of us feel. Like he's a Jet and he wanted to be here."
He praises Glenn's commitment to the team, noting that Glenn could have pursued other opportunities but chose to stay with the Jets, demonstrating his dedication and understanding of the unique challenges within the New York market.
Quarterback Crisis: Importance and Options
Timestamp: [05:06] – [16:05]
The conversation shifts to the most pressing issue facing the Jets: the quarterback position. Bob Wischusen humorously underscores its critical importance:
"I would say, number one is quarterback. Number two is quarterback. Number three, probably be the quarterback. Number 20 would be everything else." ([06:56])
Bob emphasizes that securing a top-tier quarterback is paramount for the team's success, drawing parallels to recent Super Bowl contenders where elite quarterbacks played pivotal roles.
Peter Rosenberg adds at [03:52], "He knows the market. And I do think sometimes guys come in here, you can explain it to him, you can talk to him about the media, the fans expectations..." highlighting Glenn's advantage in navigating the high-pressure New York environment.
Potential Quarterback Choices: Rodgers, Darnold, Fields
Timestamp: [16:05] – [24:38]
Aaron Rodgers: Bob delves into the possibility of bringing Aaron Rodgers back to the Jets. He notes Rodgers' value but also the complexities involved:
"That's part of the evaluation. But if you were looking for someone that had the gravitas, that sounded like a leader of men... he could have gone and pursued the New Orleans job." ([01:34])
At [08:53], Peter questions the feasibility of re-signing Rodgers, considering his demands and the salary cap:
"So does that make it unreal? First of all, you know, he's going to be way north of 40." ([09:35])
Bob responds:
"I've said all along... whoever says that, ask them, what would you do?" ([09:35])
He maintains that Rodgers remains a viable option but acknowledges the uncertainty surrounding his return.
Sam Darnold and Justin Fields: The discussion shifts to other quarterback options like Sam Darnold and Justin Fields. Bob evaluates their potential impact and fit within the team:
"I don't know. Would you guys do that?" ([09:35])
Peter contemplates the cost and effectiveness of drafting or signing these players:
"It's so hard to answer that question without knowing who's available at seven." ([09:59])
Don Hahn probes the practicality of securing these quarterbacks, considering financial constraints and team dynamics:
"I think Darnold is the most realistic option and you'll have to probably outbid somebody for him." ([15:58])
Bob emphasizes the need for a strategic approach, questioning whether bringing Darnold back would establish him as a long-term franchise quarterback.
Team Dynamics and Management Decisions: At [23:50], Bob highlights the collaborative nature of the Jets' management:
"They're just one vote. What if the GM and Woody and Chris and they're all want to go one way and Aaron's like, I guess I gotta follow..."
Don concurs, noting that Glenn and GM Muji are "lockstep in our first meeting," ensuring unified decision-making ([24:38]).
Future Prospects and Challenges
Timestamp: [16:05] – [24:38]
Peter Rosenberg raises concerns about the long-term competitiveness of the Jets:
"But here's the thing. Everybody wants to be successful right away... you have a first year head coach." ([20:46])
He discusses the balance between immediate success and building for the future, questioning whether the team should prioritize a veteran quarterback like Rodgers for quick wins or invest in developing younger talent like Justin Fields.
Bob reflects on the competitive landscape, noting the strength of other AFC teams:
"You can improve tremendously over the next couple of years, but can you get to that, Bob, you're going to have really good quarterbacks and really good teams." ([18:10])
Conclusion
Timestamp: [24:38] – [25:26]
Don Hahn wraps up the main discussion by reiterating the critical nature of the quarterback decision for the Jets' future. He underscores the need for Aaron Glenn and GM Muji to make informed choices to steer the team towards success.
Peter emphasizes the collaborative effort required to navigate these decisions, highlighting the balance between coaching autonomy and management directives.
"He can't. Come on. You've done to make this work. Cause this is your last chance to work." ([21:42])
The conversation concludes with a consensus on the significance of the upcoming weeks in determining the Jets' quarterback strategy, leaving listeners eager for future developments.
Closing Remarks and Light Banter
Timestamp: [25:06] – [29:16]
The hosts engage in light-hearted banter, reminiscing about classic hip-hop tracks and upcoming events, maintaining the podcast's engaging and personable atmosphere. They also promote various sponsors and upcoming shows, ensuring listeners are informed about future content and opportunities to engage.
Notable Quotes:
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Bob Wischusen on Quarterback Importance:
"I would say, number one is quarterback. Number two is quarterback. Number three, probably be the quarterback. Number 20 would be everything else." ([06:56]) -
Peter Rosenberg on Aaron Glenn's Market Knowledge:
"He knows the market. And I do think sometimes guys come in here, you can explain it to him, you can talk to him about the media, the fans expectations..." ([03:52]) -
Bob Wischusen on Aaron Rodgers’ Viability:
"I've said all along... whoever says that, ask them, what would you do?" ([09:35]) -
Don Hahn on Management Unity:
"They had to have talked about this before either one of them took the job." ([24:38])
This episode provided a comprehensive analysis of the New York Jets' pivotal quarterback decisions, highlighting the complexities and strategic considerations involved. Bob Wischusen's expert insights, coupled with the dynamic discussions among Don Hahn and Peter Rosenberg, offer listeners a nuanced understanding of the team's current challenges and future possibilities.
