Hour 2: Bob Wischusen joins the show

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary
Episode: Hour 2: Bob Wischusen joins the show
Release Date: January 28, 2025

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Introduction of Bob Wischusen

Timestamp: [00:38] – [01:04]

The episode kicks off with Don Hahn introducing the second hour of the podcast, welcoming Bob Wischusen to the discussion. Don emphasizes the significance of Bob's insights, setting the stage for an in-depth analysis of the New York Jets' current situation.

Bob Wischusen’s Analysis of Aaron Glenn

Timestamp: [01:04] – [05:06]

Don Hahn transitions the conversation to Bob Wischusen's report, focusing on Aaron Glenn's recent press conference as the head coach of the New York Jets. Don remarks, "I came away impressed. I felt good about what he was saying, the messaging and the way he delivered the message." ([01:04])

Bob echoes these sentiments, highlighting Glenn's leadership qualities and his seamless fit with the Jets organization. At [01:34], Bob states:

"He delivered that message yesterday and I think something else that will register with Jet fans... there is this like he's one of us feel. Like he's a Jet and he wanted to be here."

He praises Glenn's commitment to the team, noting that Glenn could have pursued other opportunities but chose to stay with the Jets, demonstrating his dedication and understanding of the unique challenges within the New York market.

Quarterback Crisis: Importance and Options

Timestamp: [05:06] – [16:05]

The conversation shifts to the most pressing issue facing the Jets: the quarterback position. Bob Wischusen humorously underscores its critical importance:

"I would say, number one is quarterback. Number two is quarterback. Number three, probably be the quarterback. Number 20 would be everything else." ([06:56])

Bob emphasizes that securing a top-tier quarterback is paramount for the team's success, drawing parallels to recent Super Bowl contenders where elite quarterbacks played pivotal roles.

Peter Rosenberg adds at [03:52], "He knows the market. And I do think sometimes guys come in here, you can explain it to him, you can talk to him about the media, the fans expectations..." highlighting Glenn's advantage in navigating the high-pressure New York environment.

Potential Quarterback Choices: Rodgers, Darnold, Fields

Timestamp: [16:05] – [24:38]

Aaron Rodgers: Bob delves into the possibility of bringing Aaron Rodgers back to the Jets. He notes Rodgers' value but also the complexities involved:

"That's part of the evaluation. But if you were looking for someone that had the gravitas, that sounded like a leader of men... he could have gone and pursued the New Orleans job." ([01:34])

At [08:53], Peter questions the feasibility of re-signing Rodgers, considering his demands and the salary cap:

"So does that make it unreal? First of all, you know, he's going to be way north of 40." ([09:35])

Bob responds:

"I've said all along... whoever says that, ask them, what would you do?" ([09:35])

He maintains that Rodgers remains a viable option but acknowledges the uncertainty surrounding his return.

Sam Darnold and Justin Fields: The discussion shifts to other quarterback options like Sam Darnold and Justin Fields. Bob evaluates their potential impact and fit within the team:

"I don't know. Would you guys do that?" ([09:35])

Peter contemplates the cost and effectiveness of drafting or signing these players:

"It's so hard to answer that question without knowing who's available at seven." ([09:59])

Don Hahn probes the practicality of securing these quarterbacks, considering financial constraints and team dynamics:

"I think Darnold is the most realistic option and you'll have to probably outbid somebody for him." ([15:58])

Bob emphasizes the need for a strategic approach, questioning whether bringing Darnold back would establish him as a long-term franchise quarterback.

Team Dynamics and Management Decisions: At [23:50], Bob highlights the collaborative nature of the Jets' management:

"They're just one vote. What if the GM and Woody and Chris and they're all want to go one way and Aaron's like, I guess I gotta follow..."

Don concurs, noting that Glenn and GM Muji are "lockstep in our first meeting," ensuring unified decision-making ([24:38]).

Future Prospects and Challenges

Timestamp: [16:05] – [24:38]

Peter Rosenberg raises concerns about the long-term competitiveness of the Jets:

"But here's the thing. Everybody wants to be successful right away... you have a first year head coach." ([20:46])

He discusses the balance between immediate success and building for the future, questioning whether the team should prioritize a veteran quarterback like Rodgers for quick wins or invest in developing younger talent like Justin Fields.

Bob reflects on the competitive landscape, noting the strength of other AFC teams:

"You can improve tremendously over the next couple of years, but can you get to that, Bob, you're going to have really good quarterbacks and really good teams." ([18:10])

Conclusion

Timestamp: [24:38] – [25:26]

Don Hahn wraps up the main discussion by reiterating the critical nature of the quarterback decision for the Jets' future. He underscores the need for Aaron Glenn and GM Muji to make informed choices to steer the team towards success.

Peter emphasizes the collaborative effort required to navigate these decisions, highlighting the balance between coaching autonomy and management directives.

"He can't. Come on. You've done to make this work. Cause this is your last chance to work." ([21:42])

The conversation concludes with a consensus on the significance of the upcoming weeks in determining the Jets' quarterback strategy, leaving listeners eager for future developments.

Closing Remarks and Light Banter

Timestamp: [25:06] – [29:16]

The hosts engage in light-hearted banter, reminiscing about classic hip-hop tracks and upcoming events, maintaining the podcast's engaging and personable atmosphere. They also promote various sponsors and upcoming shows, ensuring listeners are informed about future content and opportunities to engage.

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Notable Quotes:

• Bob Wischusen on Quarterback Importance:
  "I would say, number one is quarterback. Number two is quarterback. Number three, probably be the quarterback. Number 20 would be everything else." ([06:56])

• Peter Rosenberg on Aaron Glenn's Market Knowledge:
  "He knows the market. And I do think sometimes guys come in here, you can explain it to him, you can talk to him about the media, the fans expectations..." ([03:52])

• Bob Wischusen on Aaron Rodgers’ Viability:
  "I've said all along... whoever says that, ask them, what would you do?" ([09:35])

• Don Hahn on Management Unity:
  "They had to have talked about this before either one of them took the job." ([24:38])

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This episode provided a comprehensive analysis of the New York Jets' pivotal quarterback decisions, highlighting the complexities and strategic considerations involved. Bob Wischusen's expert insights, coupled with the dynamic discussions among Don Hahn and Peter Rosenberg, offer listeners a nuanced understanding of the team's current challenges and future possibilities.

Transcript

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Bob.

[Bob Wischusen]

What's up guys?

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There he is.

[Don]

They have a saying, the guys do that you can't win a press conference, but you can lose it. And I think we've seen in the past those evidence of a head coach being introduced and him right away losing the press conference. We've seen it here in New York. Aaron Glenn yesterday introduced to the media and I came away impressed. I felt good about what he was saying, the messaging and the way he delivered the message. What did you get out of it?

[Bob Wischusen]

Yeah, I agree with all that. Look, you know, who will be the quarterback and will he get a lot of the guys to buy in that probably were kind of disenchanted at the end of the season and then what free agents are going to want to come here and play for him? All of that is really what's going to drive whether or not he's going to win or lose. But if you were looking for someone that had the gravitas, that sounded like a leader of men, that sounded like he was going to be able to stand in front of the room and command it, you know, give the speech that's going to make a guy run through a wall, want guys to want to come back. Yeah, I mean, I think he delivered that message yesterday and I think something else that will register with Jet fans and certainly I know for a fact registered with the people in the room that interviewed him and is really registering with the people in that building because I was there. There is this like he's one of us feel. Right. Like he's a Jet and he wanted to be here and he could have gone and pursued the New Orleans job. He could have thrown his hat in the ring for all of these jobs more aggressively. He clearly pursued the Jet job. And you know, you kind of have to get what you're walking into with eyes wide open to do that. And listening to him, it sounds like he's got that right, like he knows what he's getting into. Because this is different. It's just different here than it is other places.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think it's all positive, but you don't know until you kick off in September and what it's all going to mean. Wins and losses wise. The fact that he used to play here, the fact that he's got blood in the ground, but that also suggest that guys like Robert Sala came in here and didn't care as much as Aaron Glenn. We know that's not the case. It just wasn't good enough to be able to do it. And we'll see if Aaron is. The one thing that I will say that is a positive is he knows the market. And I do think sometimes guys come in here, you can explain it to him, you can talk to him about the media, the fans expectations, but you don't know it unless you lived it. I do think that is the one positive that I do think he can draw from is that he's played, he's played here, he's dealt with the media. And I think sometimes there are players and coaches that do get overwhelmed by this market.

[Bob Wischusen]

Yeah, I mean, and that's what I was talking about when I said that he's going into this with eyes wide open because this place is different. That's what makes it different. I was telling people a story yesterday, you know, and I was the pre and post game show host. And you know this. You don't go to the press conferences after the games are over. Right. Like you're kind of anchored in the booth for two or three hours after the game's over. Doing the post game though, taking the calls. By the time you walk out to the parking lot, it's pretty much empty and everybody's gone home. You've been there for a couple hours. You know, you don't know what the dynamic is in the press conference in the locker room. So I shift from being the pre and post game host to doing the full time job. I mean this is 23 years ago, but in the old stadium for those that remember this and the media would, when you come down the elevator and you'd head towards the Jet locker room, you would pass the visitors locker room. First, and I want to say the first game that they ever played that I had to go down right after the game was over, go to the postgame press conference, Coach. Go to talk to the quarterback. They were playing Jacksonville. And if I remember right, who's the coach of the Jaguars at that point, old Broncos linebacker. How am I blanking? Jack Del Rio.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jack Del Rio? Yeah.

[Bob Wischusen]

Okay, so Jack Del Rio is the coach of the Jaguars. So as I'm walking by, he's just coming in to address the media. And I take a peek into the Jaguars media room, and there's like three TV cameras and four or five people in there with pads and pens, and Jack Del Rio is talking to this little gaggle. I mean, it looked like an NHL coach talking to a group of reporters, you know, before a Tuesday night game in February. And then I walked down to Herm Edwards postgame press conference. And it was the first time I had been. Because I'd always been the pre and postgame show host. For the first time, I walked into the head coach of the jets in his postgame press conference. There were like 20 television cameras and like 50 or 60 other people in the room. And it looked like what a guy meeting the media at the super bowl would look like on media day. And it was just the first game for the regular season in 2002. Jets, Jaguars for Herm Edwards. And I remember thinking, like, that's the difference. That's the dichotomy. And unless you've lived in both of those worlds, you don't get that. And Aaron Glenn as a player, I mean, he was in the 98 championship game. So, like, he's been around when the craziness has happened with a New York NFL team, I think there's value in that. Like, as we say, he. I think he goes into this eyes wide open, knowing the attention that this job brings.

[Don]

Bob, what would be the. Very, like, if you're going to power rank, the importance of these decisions now to be made. Coming up, what would be the one that you would put at the very top? Like, I'm curious to see what they do here. What would it be?

[Bob Wischusen]

I would say, number one is quarterback.

[Unknown]

There we go.

[Bob Wischusen]

Number. Number two is quarterback. Number three, probably be the quarterback. Number 20 would be everything else. I mean, it's the quarterback, but that's right. I mean, let's not be dumb, right? Like this. The two biggest decisions that the Jets. The three biggest decisions that the jets had to make this off season, they've made two of them. They've Hired a general manager, they've hired a coach. Now those two have to combine to answer question three, arguably as big, if not a bigger question than questions one or two, because that's how important the quarterback is. Look at the two teams that are in the Super Bowl. Look at the ones that were playing this past weekend, the four teams that were left. Talk about the four players at quarterback. All of those guys have been in MVP conversations, if not one MVPs. They are all clearly, you know, star players at their position, and you don't get there without that. As great as Saquon is, what was Saquon when he didn't have a similar talent next to him at quarterback, when all of the focus was just on him? He couldn't do what he's doing unless a defense can be spread out a little bit with the threat of the quarterback and how he can get it to all those weapons. And now you can run for 65 yards and a touchdown. So until they answer the quarterback question, everything else to me is a distant backseat. And they addressed it head on yesterday. So we've already reached out to Aaron Rodgers and we'll see. I mean, that's part of the evaluation. But before anybody could even ask the question, both Aaron Glenn and Darren Muji both basically said yes. Like, we. We will address that question head on. And we've already reached out to Aaron Rodgers to start conversations.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, what would you do? Would you want to see Rogers back or would you go elsewhere?

[Bob Wischusen]

It's so hard to answer that question without knowing who's available at seven. Right. And even if you're drafting a quarterback at seven, I think having Aaron Rodgers back for a year with a kid in the room next to him would be great. I mean, I think there's nothing but a benefit for a young player to be alongside Aaron Rodgers in a quarterback room for a year. I want to know who the offensive coordinator is and obviously then how that offensive system blends with what Aaron Rodgers wants to do. What are you going to do? I mean, like, would you make an offer to Sam Darnold? Would you? I don't know. Would you guys do that?

[Don]

I'm not opposed to it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not opposed to it. I don't get into the whole.

[Bob Wischusen]

I'm not either.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He screwed up, you know, didn't work here. Well, it didn't work here. The regime's different. Somebody else, it's a different quarterback, there's different weapons. Again, I'd have to see the price, but if the price is right, I think He's a viable option. Who else is it going to be? Tyrod Taylor? Is it be Kirk Cousins? Are you going to take a chance on Justin Fields? I mean, there's not a ton of options. That's why I think Aaron is very high on the list and I think Sam would be too.

[Bob Wischusen]

Yeah. That's why, like I joked a couple of weeks ago, right. That I hope that everybody thinks that Sam's value went off a cliff after.

[Unknown]

The way he playoffs.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe you got your wish based on after that. Right?

[Bob Wischusen]

I agree with you. Sam Donald turns around and hands the ball to Breeze hall and throws the ball to Garrett Wilson. He's going to be like, what happened here while I was gone? This is way different than when I left. So I think, I mean, again, when they sit there and say, we have to look at the roster, look at the salary cap, look at the landscape, who's available? Other organizations have to make their decisions, that's what they're going to be doing. They're going to be sitting around a conference table having that exact same conversation we're having. And yeah, like, I would definitely bring Aaron Rodgers. I could absolutely see at the end of all of these, you know, like branches to the tree, you arrive at the point where you're all looking at each other going, guys, Aaron Rodgers is the best option that we have available. And that's what, like I've heard people from, you know, the middle of what was a disastrous season on ranting. And I guess, you know, we live in a hot take world where you have to make your hot take. There's absolutely no way you can bring Aaron Rodgers back. Like, it has to end. You have to move on. Okay, well, I've always said, you know, whoever says that, ask them, what would you do? You have to have an answer to that question. If you're sitting in the chair these guys are sitting in, you can't just go on the radio, scream into a microphone. You can't bring Aaron Rodgers back and then say, and there you have it. That's my jet take. But you have to say, what is your plan if you don't bring. Bring him back? And I've said all along with, I mean, it's the question I get asked the most. Do you think Aaron Rodgers coming back? And I always have said, well, who are the decision makers and what options do they have available to them if not Aaron Rodgers? And until you find out who the decision makers are, well, now we know, and we know both of those guys have very clearly not closed the door on bringing Aaron Rodgers back. They said yesterday they've reached out to him to talk to him potentially about coming back. And then you say, what are the other possibilities on the menu? And we still don't have the answers to those questions. Then, then how can you definitively say he's not coming back? So, yeah, do I see a scenario, and I've said this all along, where he could come back? Absolutely.

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[Don]

Yeah, I think there's the, the options are. It's, it's, it's no longer really like what you're saying is how I felt all along throughout this whole thing. It's not necessarily, do you want him back? Because there's fans who aren't going to. It's, it's, what are your options and what is the best option? So you take the emotion out of it of I'm sick of his face. Right. Or whatever it is that you're sick of with Rogers, and you ask yourself, if I move on from him, am I getting worse at quarterback or am I getting the same quarterback play? Because the one thing you probably won't get is better. I don't know how you get better play because you can't, A, can't go out and find one who's a veteran, and B, you're not gonna be able to draft one. So it's either gonna be, can I get the same or am I gonna get worse? Can I live with either one of them? And that, like, we don't know until they sit down and talk with him and figure out what they're going to do going forward in the system and everything else. So it is, I asked the question for that reason to see not only is it at the top, but how much of the top.

[Bob Wischusen]

My question to you guys, but what would be better? Like, what's the best option? What's the best realistic option for the quarterback? If you could pile up.

[Don]

Yeah, realistic is the key phrase here because that's, you know, fans will come up with all kinds of things that are not even possible, but they'll think they are.

[Unknown]

And we don't even know fully realistic yet because we don't know what the, what's, what does Darnold cost? I, I, it's hard for me to say what's realistic before having an idea.

[Don]

I think Darnold is the most realistic option and you'll have to probably outbid somebody for him.

[Unknown]

But Peter, like 40 million, 45.

[Bob Wischusen]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So does that make it unreal? First of all, it's be way north of 40.

[Don]

Yes, of course. So which is where Rogers is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. So for Peter, the answer your question, like, does it get, does it become out of rain? Does it become something that just doesn't become realistic? If he's asking price is going to be say 50. So obviously that's probably a little bit too high. But I probably bring Rogers back. I guess the question is how much do you buy into the second half of the year? Like how much of that was hey, where they were done already. There was less pressure. Yeah. You beat a Miami team and a Jacksonville team that weren't great. Those were your best games down the stretch. Like what Rogers are you getting and can you guarantee me that you're going to get similar numbers and are you going to get second half Rogers opposed.

[Bob Wischusen]

To first half Rogers and is he open to a different offensive more kind of.

[Don]

That's the key part of the whole thing is how much buy in will you get from him and how much of it is lip service just to get a commitment from you and then do you trust that he'll stick with it or if things don't go the way he wants, will he then go pull in a different direction and really mess up your room? Those are all things that you'd have to know man to man in these conversations that you're going to have. So it's, it's going to be the next couple of weeks. Very interesting development in just one area.

[Bob Wischusen]

Short term Aaron's a short term commitment.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Bob Wischusen]

I mean even the cap hit as hard as it would be to take when you let him go. That's still kind of a rip the band aid off thing. If you bring Sam Darnold back, you've got to be convinced bringing him back to be your starter for a while. Right. Like you're bringing him back on a four or five year deal where. Yeah, it's, it's. There's a but like it's not like a trial run. It's not like I'll bring him in here for a year or two, dip our toe in the water and see how it goes. You know, I mean you have to be convinced that this is a reborn player that's a. That is now established himself as a franchise quarterback. We're going to pay him like that. We're going to turn the team over to him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

God. The scary thing though for Jet fans is just to get to the level you're looking to get to.

[Don]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because even if you want to say all right, eventually this chief thing has to end, well, who's the next one? Is it going to be Allen in Buffalo? Is it going to be Lamar Jackson in Baltimore? You know, what are the quarterback you got, you know, really good coach in Denver right now. Look at the all the coaches that you have right now in the AFC West. I mean, God, you can improve tremendously over the next couple of years, but can you get to that, Bob, you're going to have really good quarterbacks and really good teams. Not go to the super bowl because multiple teams can't come out of the afc. It's scary.

[Bob Wischusen]

Yep. No, there's no doubt. And you know, the would be. And not that you'd want to start a rookie next year, but looking at a couple of guys at the top of this draft and you're sitting at seven, do you envision any world where one of those guys falls to seven or on draft day, would you have.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think we lost, Bob.

[Don]

Yeah, well, I think we got good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We got them next week we'll get old into the super bowl and everything. So we appreciate that.

[Don]

Well, that was the Bob Washuzen Report. It was brought to you by Infinity Experience, the infinity lineup at your Tri State retailer today. But it is obviously the biggest conversation that we'll continue to have. It's why I asked him what I asked him, obviously quarterback is it. But I was curious how he would answer it and it is, it is the most critical thing that has to come from these two guys who this is the first big decision they have to make and they can't get it wrong.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, but here's the thing. Everybody wants to be successful right away and everybody wants to get to where Kansas City, Buffalo and Baltimore are right now. But you've got a first year head coach. We had talked about this before, Peter. You weren't here like last week that if the Giants had hired Aaron Glenn, go out and go three and 14, your team's not good, learn, make your mistakes. And then in year two, year three, once they get a quarterback, once they start figuring out roster wise, well, then we're going to judge you based on wins and losses. He's got talent there. If you give him a quarterback, the expectations are going to be through the roof. And if he makes mistakes and loses games, that's a tough way to start your regime. So are you thinking, hey, maybe we bring in a Justin Fields and we won't have expectations and he'll grow into the position. Or do you want to get him a quarterback and say, okay, Aaron, go from defensive coordinator in Detroit, start winning right now, go out and win me nine, ten games right now. Because that is going to be the expectation. If Roger stays, unless he gets hurt, or if they bring in a Sam Darnold or bring in a veteran quarterback, then you know, with this Talent. The expectations are going to go okay, Aaron, go out, win us nine, 10 games.

[Don]

What would you want if like, you don't have to be football, just you're walking into a situation, right? You're walking into something like this. Would you want to have this? You know, again, the looming presence of a future hall of Famer who is a lightning rod. Big media coverage and all the other stuff that comes with it. Everything that comes with him, include the good and the bad. Would you want that or would you want to say I. Let's just let me start fresh so that I know this is my team and there's no one that has a bigger presence than I do right now on this team. What would you want?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Document, I guess the feeling I can bring in my guy and I can start fresh. Cause if Rodgers comes here and I Peter, I don't know how you feel about this. I think he's gonna be on his best behavior. He knows this is the last chance saloon for him. Maybe I'm wrong. I've been wrong before about Rogers, but I don't think he's gonna start dictating who his OC is gonna be. Start making midnight phone calls.

[Don]

He knows he can't. Woody.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He can't. Come on. You've done to make this work. Cause this is your last chance to work. And no, I got my first time as a coach, Peter. Now I got Aaron Rodgers, and if he stays healthy, I got to go out there and I got to win a bunch of games. Or do I want my first opportunity to be. Let's. Let's lessen the expectations. Let me get my sea legs. Let me figure out the way to do this. Not have a bunch of people screaming in my ear, you've got to make the playoffs. You got to win 10 games. I don't know. But then there's the other side that says, I think I love the challenge of being able to go out there and win right away because look what it bought Dable. But Dable makes the playoffs and now he might be here for the next seven years because that one playoff appearance. So it's a really difficult question.

[Unknown]

It also totally depends on his mentality, sticking around. If he's sticking around because he really thinks he doesn't want it to end how it ended, he thinks he has something to offer and he really would like to end on a positive note, then, Don, I think you're completely right. Think he's a great soldier. Don't think he's dictating anything. If I think it's sort of like, I just want to listen. If they're going to pay me for another year, I'll take the money. And I don't really have any high expectations, but I'm down to keep sort of the attention train going and make the money. Then I don't think we know what we're going to get from him and I don't think we can be sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's also a great challenge, right, for the young head coach to show you he's the man by being able to get in Roger's face and say, not on my watch. All right? I'm not Robert Sala. This is the way things are going to be. And if you're not going to be this way, then we're. Then you're gone.

[Unknown]

Well, and that's the thing. And at that point, there'd really be nothing to lose. He's in a much better position to do it than Salah was. Salah couldn't do it. At the time that Salah was still here, everything was hitched to Rodgers. If this is the last chance saloon for Aaron Rodgers, it puts Glenn in a situation where he can be that guy. It's much less risk in that relationship.

[Don]

This is going to be something you could just hear like none of us have a definitive answer on it and we won't until we really know what other option. And then once you know what the other option could be, whether it's Sam Darnold or something else or a trade for someone, that's the only time then you can say, well, which. Which is the better option.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But here's the issue with the jets real quick.

[Don]

Yeah, it's all collaborative.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So he's just one vote. What if the GM and Woody and Chris and they're all want to go one way and Aaron's like, I guess I gotta follow because I. I'm the descending vote. But unfortunately I'm being outlawed.

[Don]

What's the point? I feel is that Muji and Glenn are, as both of them has said are very much on the same page. In fact, I think Mooji said we're like lockstep in our first meeting. We all. We had the same agreement on everything that was promising because you know, they had to have talked about this before either one of them took the job. They had to discuss it before because if they were on opposite ends of this thing, you're not taking this job. So that is also something to keep an eye on. Fascinating conversation. No doubt about that.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Unknown]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Who is this?

[Bob Wischusen]

The best.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is really good. I never heard this.

[Don]

Who is this? Bronx Boogie down with Strong on the Island. Recoup to Hang around.

[Bob Wischusen]

Fresh off the Juice soundtrack.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because this is. This is from the movie right out the cloud.

[Don]

You know what I'm about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peter will appreciate this because this has like the. The iced tea OG Original Gangster kind of sound to it.

[Don]

Yeah, yeah, it does. Which was a few years before it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But to this game after.

[Don]

Because this is 92.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I want to say 92. 92 OG original gangster was what? 90. 91 might have been around 92. They might have came out around the same time.

[Don]

I think. I think he was more late 80s, right? But yeah, it's got a similar sound, but there was something like this. This comes on and it's like it starts fast and the whole song just stays fast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So 91 for O.G.

[Don]

There you go. Don wasn't far off.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Donnie. How about that, right? That was in my wheelhouse. That Ice Cube.

[Don]

Love it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wu Tang. That's. That's kind of my extent of. But that's the best genre.

[Don]

That was the best era, in my opinion. So Don, like, what you remember is the best of the genre, in my opinion. But that, of course, is just my opinion.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I could. I could recite, like word for word that entire album. Can't do it on the air.

[Don]

Hustler.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, Hustle.

[Don]

Hustler.

[Peter Rosenberg]

New Jack. New Jack. New Jack. Hustler. New Jack. Hustler. So you gotta get paid tonight.

[Don]

So you didn't know. Look what we're bringing out of Don McGregor. So y'all didn't know what Don McGregor has inside. Daniel Tosh, by the way, is coming to the Beacon theater on Friday, April 4th. It says here, 2025, in case we were wondering. Thank you. ESPN New York has your chance to score tickets on the ESPN New York app, which you should have on your phone. If you don't get it, do it and then scroll down the contest. Submit your entry. This is how you get all our content. Be part of contests and everything else. You can hear the show. Like get the app, people and get a chance to win tickets to Daniel Tosh. It's brought to you by Live Nation. Tickets go on sale this Friday at [e-mail] should I do. Yeah, I should do this. Game time. Brought to you by Tully More. Do Irish Whiskey. Because when it's game time. It's Tully time. Hockey Rongeur. Tonight, Rangers host the Hurricanes coverage immediately following us with Don on the pregame show at 8:80. Right here on 880, the Islanders take on the Avalanche at 7:30. I'm going to be torn, Don, because I want to keep an eye on that game while also watching the Rangers live at the Garden with you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We have the technology.

[Don]

I know we do, but it's okay. Is that bad form for me to want to keep an eye on the Islanders game while being at a Ranger?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've done it because they got the TVs in the glass table.

[Don]

They do in the bridge.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And sometimes if I'm able to situate myself where I've got a TV on the left, TV on the right. I need the highlights for the Rangers, but I'll put a Devil Islander game on. Nick. Game on Sunday, Monday, Thursday night Football.

[Don]

Happy days. I think that the Islanders Avalanche game is an interesting one for me because I am trying to figure out if the Islanders what they're doing is a sign of life, although they just keep losing people to injury.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you say they sold on social media? The Avalanche took the train to ubs the morning skate.

[Don]

They keep doing this now like it's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Something but it's just like look at our players are. We're like the common.

[Don]

We're just like New Yorkers. We're taking the train. Like it is such a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's been done a task of a hawk, right?

[Don]

Was the Pistons, I think did it. They, they went to the Barclays center, but they stayed in Manhattan so we took the subway.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's kind of did it at some point.

[Don]

I think.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not to the point, Peter, of having to show footage of the players coming into the building. It hasn't reached that level yet, but it's close.

[Don]

You gotta love that. Well, it's really not as good as Stephen A walking in the building.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the shot was something you have.

[Don]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to Madonna, Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don]

I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good.

[Don Hahn]

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