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Don Hahn
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Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
See mintmobile.com this is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That sounds like heaven to me.
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Don Hahn
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8:80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
4:00 clock in the big city. Don Hahn and Rosenberg with you until 6 o'. Clock. Then it's Mets baseball here on ESPN New York. We got a weekly this year. Looking forward to it. It's Booker McFarlane and he joins us here on on Don Han in Rosenberg. How are you sir?
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Booger McFarland
What's happening? How we doing?
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Oh man, I mean, listen, it depends on who you root for, right? I mean, if you're a Jet fan, there's I think some positives there. If you're a Giant fan, it just seems like same old, same old. So I guess let's start with the good. How surprised were you that the jets were able to put up a 32 spot? And is it something you think can be sustainable throughout the season?
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Booger McFarland
Not really surprised. I think when you look at Aaron Glenn, and I've known him for a long time, you knew he was going to put a competent staff together. And I think that, you know, when they went out and they got Justin Fields, you knew they had a plan for how they could manufacture offense. Can they keep it up throughout the season? Maybe not 30 plus points a game, but I do feel like they can put a very confident offense on the field. Justin looks like he's gotten a little bit better in the pocket. He didn't look so, you know, just flustered like he did last couple stops, whether that was Chicago or Pittsburgh. So he looks calmer. We know he's athletic and can run the football. So I do think, although it may not be 30 a game, I do think it's sustainable.
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Don Hahn
Bo, how different is the Jets? Are the jets at the line of scrimmage this year compared to past? It feels like you can do that. You can run with Breece hall, you can run with Braylon Allen. You can certainly get Justin Fields out and running as well. When you have an offensive line that can block, that can hold up. And that first game was a pretty impressive one for the jets offensive line.
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Booger McFarland
Well, no doubt. And not just the offensive line. I think if you look at their defensive line, you know, with McDonald and Johnson and Quinn and Williams, like the jets are built the right way. I think Armand Member was as advertised. I mean, he, there were a couple times, you watch the tape, he dominated T.J. watt. They're built the right way. I think when you want to win in this day and age, you've got to be built inside out, front to back. And I think the inside out and the front part is taken care of. I think on the back end and kind of the skilled guys, they still got a little work to do. Is Justin Fields the answer long term? I don't know. But I do like where I see them going right now. The offensive line was good. And think about this, like the Pittsburgh Steelers kind of model themselves as being the bully on the block. And when you can hit them in the mouth and rush for a buck 80, like, like that gives you a lot of confidence going through the rest of the season because like they, they, they go to bed at night thinking about how to stop the run and when you can do that against them, I think that bodes well for, for Aaron Glenn, even though he probably wouldn't take the consolation prize as far as how they played. He wants the victory. But I think deep down they got to feel really good going to work this week up there in Jersey.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Now you want to clean things up from last year, right? Book. So you got, you cut down on the penalties, but there were penalties and hold on the fourth quarter leads, which they didn't do. But how long does it take a new regime to clean up the old regime's mistakes?
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Booger McFarland
It takes a minute because what you're talking about is like a culture and you know, people look at sports different than they do a normal job. Like you guys got a radio show every day. Like, if you were to, if you were to bring a whole new crew in, how long would it take that crew to jail and kind of get rid of some of the things that you guys do on a daily basis. Like it, it take a minute. Like you got to do things over and over. There was an old saying in football, like you become what you repeatedly do, and so you got to do it over and over and over and over again. And so the fact that they practiced all summer long and had one game and some of those things kind of showed up. It's not surprising. It's going to take a minute. But you become what you repeatedly do over and over. Like if you show up late, traditionally that's kind of what you're going to become. You're going to be a guy that everybody looks at and shows up, that shows up late. So whatever you do repeatedly, not just in football guys, but whatever job you have in life, that's what you ultimately, ultimately become. And I think Aaron Glenn just wants him to become a team that's really focused, that's on the details, that doesn't make the mistakes. Because if you do it over and over, then you're going to become what ultimately he envisions, which is a team that doesn't beat themselves and gives themselves a chance to win every week.
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Don Hahn
Now, what happens after one week with the Giants is of course it goes back to the same emotion of they're still trying to find a quarterback. Right. The quarterback play was criticized in that game. It's another week one where they can't score more than six points. And immediately the conversation starts to become, and I've heard it from all our friends right on ESPN on an NFL side, I'm sure a lot of your friends said it and I'm wondering if you're saying it too. Is it time to just say, well, Russ doesn't have it anymore. Put the kid in and let's start the clock on Jackson Dart's career? Or do you feel like. I feel which is you got to do what's best for the kid and not necessarily what's best for making the fan base happy and change for changes sake? Because I don't think it's the right time.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Do you?
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Booger McFarland
Well, I'm going to do what's best for my job. And I think if you're Brian Daybold and Joe Shane, like that's the conversation you got to have. Like you honestly had to have this conversation before the season starts. Like, hey, and really it needs to be had with ownership because if you're not having that conversation top down, then you're doing everybody deserves because number one job I have, like Brian Dabo, I've known Brian a long time. I think Brian's got six kids. Like, like Brian's got a family to think about. And so why would I go ahead and put a kid in who I know is going to struggle? And we're all, I'm not saying we're going to lose the likelihood of a rookie quarterback winning is not good. So if, if, if I'm Brian Daybold and I'm trying to protect my wife and six kids are home and the private school that we go to, why am I going to sabotage my own self? So I would play Russell Wilson because I think he gives us the best chance to win or I would play Jameis.
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Rosenberg
That's what I was going to say. Do you think, you think Jameis gives him a better shot though? Booger. That's where I'm at with it. I just don't know if Russ has it.
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Booger McFarland
Well, well, it's a conversation that I think had to be had before the season start because guys, like, let's just be honest, like we can quarterback this thing from the outside, but I think inside, like their jobs and their families on the line. And so I think those guys are trying to do what's best for them and what they feel is best for them and their football team to get wins. Because ultimately we are in a results based business like you got to win. The fans are saying let's start the clock on the outside. But guess what? They're going to be fans next year. There are no guarantees that Brian Dabo and Joe Shane gonna have a job next year. So it's a complicated situation. I think what I would have done in the lead up to the season is if, if you're the mayor of family and the church family, I would have simply said this, hey guys, we're going to give you two years. All right? So not just this year, but we're going to give you two years. And so you play the kid when you want to play him. I just know you got two years. If I don't like what I'm seeing at two years, I'm blowing the whole thing up. I think that would have been fair because what's going on now really is not fair. Because right now you have a coach who is getting a lot of heat from everybody on the outside about Russell Wilson. And I think we all know what Russell is like. Russell is Russell. His best days are behind him. But does Russell give you the best chance to win? Like, it's a very complex situation that I think if you guys put yourself in and your family and your family's private school and the Mercedes Benz that you drive on is on the line. I think it would be tough for us to make some of these decisions.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
We're talking about McFarland is spot here in Don Han and Rosenberg. We're not, we're not John Mara. So we don't know what's inside his head, but we keep talking about wins and losses. You're not a very good team. You've got one of the, if not the toughest schedules in the NFL. Wouldn't it make more sense, Booger, from a John Mara perspective, to say, all right, forget our wins and losses. I need to know what it looks like and I need to make sure that by the end of the season, I've got a quarterback that I believe can be my future. And could that be enough for Dable to be able to keep his job? Like, we didn't win a lot of games, but at least by the second half of the season we got a quarterback ready. He looks like he got better as the season went on and we can now run with him in 26. Could that be enough to save his job, even if it only ends up being a 3, 4 win season?
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Booger McFarland
I was just about to say that. Like, I don't live in New York. Like, you tell me the appetite. If The Giants are 3 and 14. Jackson Dart has shown some promises and shown some flash. Let's say he goes out and throws 15 touchdowns and 15 interceptions and you're three and 14. How you feeling up there? You know what I'm saying? Like, like, do we, do we feel like, okay, because Peyton Manning threw 20, what, 28 interceptions in his rookie season. So the fact that he struggled lets you know the kid's going to struggle. So if, if we're, if we're three and 14 and he, he's kind of showing some problems, but kind of not how we feeling. I think, again, that's a conversation you have to have with the ownership. Right now we're just spitballing this thing. If it were me today and, and, and you told me today, I would, I never would have signed Russell Wilson. I would assign Jameis Winston. Jameis would have been my starter. And I know exactly what I'm going to get. I'm going to get. It's kind of like Charles Dickinson. The best of times and the worst of times. That's what you're going to get from James, right? Like some, some Sundays he's going to throw for 350 and 4. Some Sundays, some Sundays he's going to throw for 350 and 4. Except the 4 is going to be for the other team. Like, you just never know. But I would have played Jamus and told Jackson, sit and wait and whether that's, you know, week 15, week 7, week 5, at some point you're going to play that's what I would have done.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And yet we have Jackson Dart backing up Wilson. Now, tell us the benefits of that, because I know the one negative booger is, is that if you don't want him to start, guess what, you're one play away from playing. So would you have him backing up?
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Booger McFarland
Well, think about this. You know, when you guys come on the radio, somebody's got to speak first. And if that person is not there, I'm sure you guys got a rotation. Who's going to speak first when the original guy's not there? And so if Russell is supposed to take the first snaps, what happens is in practice, then the second team guy gets some of the reps. And so you want him number two because you're trying to get him ready. James has played long enough. James. James is kind of like. He's kind of like Kevin o', Day, a relief pitcher. Like, if you give him five throws, he's ready to go. Like, he doesn't need as many reps as Jackson Dart. So I agree with Dart being number two because of the divvying up of the reps that you get during practice. And so I think Brian is trying to serve two Masters. I'm trying to win games, but I'm also trying to get this kid ready to go and practice each and every day, because as soon as. As soon as I think he's ready or as soon as we may need him, I got to put him in. So it's tough to serve two Masters because there's only a certain amount of time you can practice. Yeah, like, once the season starts, you really got two practices, and of those two practices, you probably got about 40 reps, maybe 50 reps, where you're kind of actually working on the game plan. And so he's trying to do both. I got to get Russell some looks, but also got to get the kid ready, which is kind of tough to do.
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Don Hahn
Yeah, there's definitely two plans in play right now, and that's. That's the hard part. But you got. I think they just got to stick to whatever the plan is going to be with Dart without rushing to anything, because that. That could end up being a terrible mistake for everybody. Meanwhile, a team that is. Seems to be everyone's favorite now to be a Super bowl champ, or at least to be in the Super Bowl. The Green Bay packers make that move for Micah Parsons. What you saw in Week one, it seemed like he was doing a lot of very simple stuff, but yet still had a major impact on that team. What does A move of one player. What could the move of one player do for one franchise when it comes to a trade like that?
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Booger McFarland
Let me say this, and don't take this the wrong way, because I am in no way, shape or form comparing myself to Michael Parsons. He's a far better talent and and player than I was. I got traded in 2000, 2006. I went to Indy and I walked in and Tony simply. Tony Dungeon simply said this. We need a veteran guy who knows how to play football and can help lead these guys. Our run defense is not very good. I know what you bring to the table. That's what we need. All I need you to do is be yourself. I got there, I was myself with won the Super Bowl. And so when you bring a. And you got to remember Indy, Indy had won 12 games or 13 games every year, but never could get over the hump. And so I say all that to say this. When you bring a fresh perspective from the outside to a team that's been successful, it's going to do a couple things. One, it's going to light a fire on everybody. It's going to give everybody in the organization energy. And you talk. And on top of that, when you bring a player like Michael Parsons, everybody showing up to work early, everybody's got extra energy. And Micah is a guy who demands, like, he's an alpha. And anytime you have an alpha, here's what happens. If I walk on the field and I walk next to my bodyguard, I feel a lot better than when I walk alone. So Micah is essentially like the bodyguard. Like, he's that dude. That's the biggest dude, the baddest dude in the block. He's with Taylor Swift everywhere she goes. And so, like, when you look at it like that, think about the role players. When they walk on the field with Michael Parsons, they feel better, they feel protected. And that's what a guy like that can do. Man, he's phenomenal. I hope he stays healthy. I think he's going to have the type of impact that Reggie White had, the type of impact that I had. The type of impact when you bring in a specific piece to do a specific job that can add a jolt to a team that's good and can kind of take them over the hump. I think that's what they envisioned with Michael Parson.
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Rosenberg
Well, earlier today on first take, Peter Schrager said he would not be shocked if the packers completely shut down Jaden Daniels tomorrow night. I'm a little biased when it comes to this Booger But I call me crazy. I don't see Jaden Daniels getting completely shut down and looking lost tomorrow night here.
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Don Hahn
Peter is a commander's fan, I think. Booger, you remember this deep, deep commander's face.
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Booger McFarland
I know exactly about you. Got to remember Peter. Peter and I. Peter is the only person on this, on this show that I work with.
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Don Hahn
You've done this before to me, Booger.
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Rosenberg
You forgot.
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Don Hahn
You have. We have worked together many times.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I don't know you from Adam, ke.
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Don Hahn
Keshan and Jay Will.
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Booger McFarland
Maybe it wasn't.
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Don Hahn
We have worked a lot together. Maybe, you know, I am not memorable.
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Booger McFarland
I was just gonna say maybe we work together. Maybe you're just not memorable. I don't know.
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Rosenberg
Damn, that's so hurtful. But tell me, tell me though, like all my bias included. I listen, I'm, I am I worried about the Packers? Absolutely. To be a very competitive game. But I don't see the kid being lost tomorrow when he sees the packers defense.
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Booger McFarland
What do you think? So, so I don't think the kid will be lost. But here's the way I look at football. And this is a good lesson for you and your fans. So when you break down a game, I always ask myself this. How many ways can team A beat team beat team B and vice versa? So if I were to say, how do the commanders beat the Packers? Okay, Jaden Daniels could go crazy. All right. Other than that, though, what's the other way that the commanders win? Peter? Like, are we going to win a defensive struggle? Are we going to win a game where Debo rushes for two? Like, I'm just thinking of the ways in which Washington can win. Like, the kids got to go crazy now. He's very capable. I think he's going to make some plays. He's. He's too good not to. But when you look on the other side, if I told you Green Bay held Washington to 12 points, like I could believe that because that defense is that nasty. If I told you that Jordan Love and Josh Jacobs rushed for 150, I could believe that. If I said Jordan Love, if you follow my drift here. No, I see what you're saying. The Packers, the packers have more ways they can win. Washington has to play a specific game tomorrow night. I think they need a couple of turnovers. I think Jaden's got to go crazy. And I think from, from a, from a running standpoint, I don't want to mess the kids name.
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Rosenberg
Just call him Bill. Yeah, you need Bill.
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Booger McFarland
Yeah, Bill. That's what he wants to be Called Bill. Bill has to. Bill has to control the game tomorrow night.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
All right. Pack of The Chargers beat the Chiefs in Brazil. Were you more impressed with the Chargers or disappointed with the Chiefs?
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Booger McFarland
I was very, very impressed with the charges because that's a game that the Chargers don't normally win. Like. Like anytime the Chargers and Chiefs play, you say, okay, the game's going to be close, you know, and in the end, the Chargers are going to lose. Well, that was a game. Not only did the Chargers win, but. But they won by kind of taking it at the Chiefs. And it's something to pay attention to. It's only one week. If you remember the last play of the game, Chris Jones came inside. Justin Herbert went down the right sideline for, like, 18 yards. Well, Chris Jones was supposed to be outside. It's a little thing. It's a little thing you don't expect a guy who's a Hall of Fame player, who's won three Super Bowls to do. And what happens sometimes, guys, is when you've been there and done that, the attention to detail isn't the same. And again, it's a little thing. It's one game. But let's just pay attention because the Eagles are coming to Arrowhead this week, and the Eagles. The last time the Eagles and the Chiefs played, it wasn't even close. I don't think that game's going to play out this way. But it wouldn't surprise me if the Eagles go on the Arrowhead and win, and The Chiefs are 0 and 2, and we're having a conversation next week, what's wrong with the Chiefs? Because when you win a lot and you're so successful, the first thing to say is, well, I got it. I've been there and done that. And the little things start to creep in. And I just wonder, how motivated are the Chiefs to continue this run? It's human nature, man. When you've been so successful and you're Patrick Mahomes and your Travis Kelsey and your Andy Reid, and you got everything in Kansas City right by the palm of your hands, what's the driving factor to motivate you to keep winning? I don't know that answer. They have to know it. But human nature is something we all have to deal with.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Booger, always a pleasure, man. Looking forward to talking to you next week.
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Booger McFarland
Hey, man, can't wait to do it. Hans, next week, I'll make sure to remember something.
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Don Hahn
I'm gonna send you video.
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Rosenberg
At least remember this week. You gotta remember this week.
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Booger McFarland
Jeez.
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Don Hahn
Hurtful.
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Booger McFarland
Well, I'm just talking to you guys. Can't wait to do it next week.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That's. Booker McFarland will be joining us every Wednesday. I think we got four o' clock here on Eastern. Sandy, you know what?
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Booger McFarland
It's.
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Don Hahn
It's not. It's not the first time he's done that to me.
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Rosenberg
You remember he specifically brought it up and said, oh, I didn't.
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Don Hahn
There was a time we had Bart and I had him on. He used to come on all the time with Keyshawn J. Will and I. Right. And all the time. So we. And it was on video and so we saw each other. He comes on Bart and I, and he was doing something, you know, like something that, that, like, he said, culturally, I wouldn't understand. And Bart's like, no, no, no. He's like, he. He gets it. And Booger's like, yeah, well, I've never met him, so I would know that. And Bart's like, what? Like, we were both. I was shocked. So I must leave no impression on anyone.
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Rosenberg
Well, not anyone. Just Booger.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Yeah, I think it's more on him, man.
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Rosenberg
Yeah. Listen, maybe remember he played football before.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
All those specialized helmets.
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Rosenberg
Yeah. Have you seen Booger's hands?
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Don Hahn
Yes.
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Rosenberg
So you never know what's happened to him. There's a lot of. A lot of trauma over the.
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Don Hahn
You can learn a lot from a man's hands.
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Rosenberg
And his hands say, good God, man. Things have happened physically.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Right. So I think it's more on him than you because you leave an impression.
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Don Hahn
Do I?
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Yeah, of course you do. You're a tall drink of water. You're very talented.
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Don Hahn
Look at you pumping me up. What a teammate.
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Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Maybe she dressed like a clown, like everybody else on esp wear a weird thing.
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Don Hahn
You know what I was thinking? Instead of a mustache, Mutton chops. If anybody's gonna bring him back, maybe I do.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Yeah.
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Booger McFarland
What do you think?
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Don Hahn
The mutt.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Right.
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Don Hahn
Just straight up chops. Why not?
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Rosenberg
By the way, Wouldn't that be a really funny thing, though, if. If. If they ever have me on first take again when I go on, if I just show up wearing the most insane. Just full. And just act like nothing up. Just completely act as if I'm like everyone else who's on ESPN television.
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Don Hahn
Yeah. What do you mean? That's what I'm wearing. What?
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Rosenberg
Yeah, what do you mean? So I wore the T shirt over my dress shirt with the tie over the T shirt and something wrapped around my head. This is how I look now. This is what I do wear the thing.
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Don Hahn
How about.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
How about the dress shirt over the sport coat?
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Rosenberg
That's the try that.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Nobody's ever done that. Maybe that's what I'll do if they ever call me.
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Rosenberg
Now that would be a look.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That would be something.
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Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.
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Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Don Hahn
Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
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Booger McFarland
Just made the list, buddy.
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Don Hahn
This is the list with Don Hahn and Rosenberg.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
So of course it's Wednesday and we always try to have a jumping off point for our list. So wake up today. And we mentioned it earlier in the show that on this date in 1975, 50 years ago, welcome Back Cotter debuted. So we're thinking, all right, let's do something around television. And then Alan and I started talking about what was so significant about the welcome Back Cotter and the people that came out of that. Specifically John Travolta.
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Rosenberg
So.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
All right, why don't we come up with the top five movie stars that started out as stars on television.
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Rosenberg
I didn't know where you're going to go and that's wheels turning.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
All right.
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Rosenberg
Yeah, the wheels are turning now everybody.
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Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
We're not talking about somebody that like I'm just going to tell you right off, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio making an appearance here and there. No, no, no. We're talking about there were stars on television and then they turned out to.
- [25:48]
Don Hahn
Be the main character on a well known show. Could be a sitcom, could be a drama. You were a main character.
- [25:55]
Rosenberg
Right.
- [25:56]
Don Hahn
And then you went, your career went from that to then superstardom in movies. So again, variety shows, snl, I understand, you know, In Living Color. We're not going to go there because we're talking about a weekly.
- [26:08]
Rosenberg
Get it. You were a television star known for a role on television.
- [26:12]
Don Hahn
There you go.
- [26:12]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And here's what I think we're going to do because we were discussing it about do we go one through five or just give you five? Because they're all pretty significant.
- [26:19]
Rosenberg
Yeah. So like, well, what's the.
- [26:20]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
But we could have fun with you of if you want to rank.
- [26:25]
Rosenberg
Well, let me. Let's see what I can come up with.
- [26:26]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Yeah, let's see.
- [26:27]
Rosenberg
Because the only, the first one that's only popping in my head, that seems obvious, but maybe not. There could be a lot on this list would be Michael J. Fox.
- [26:35]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Michael J. Fox is an honorable mention.
- [26:40]
Rosenberg
Honorable mention because his movie career to you isn't big enough.
- [26:45]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Well, in Paris, again, who are you taking out?
- [26:47]
Don Hahn
Remember this is. You're talking elite.
- [26:49]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
It seems jarring right now. Right. Because he's a significant movie star.
- [26:52]
Rosenberg
But especially cuz I can't think of anyone right now currently off the top of my head that started well, give me some. Give Me some air. What eras are we, General?
- [27:04]
Don Hahn
First of all, what. What. What is the jump off point? What was the. What was the motivation for the list? Yeah. Was. What would Don say?
- [27:11]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Yeah.
- [27:11]
Rosenberg
So Travolta, obviously.
- [27:12]
Don Hahn
Okay.
- [27:13]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
John Travolta.
- [27:13]
Don Hahn
John Travolta.
- [27:14]
Rosenberg
He's on the list.
- [27:14]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Of course.
- [27:14]
Rosenberg
He has to be. That's so fun.
- [27:15]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [27:16]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
There's one major movie star, but he was a big television star. Yeah, that was a big. For him. Vinny Barbarino. And he was able to make that into his television career, which is amazing.
- [27:26]
Don Hahn
When you think about.
- [27:27]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
He made the top five. So he.
- [27:30]
Rosenberg
It was created around him. He deserves to be honored.
- [27:32]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That's right.
- [27:33]
Rosenberg
I suppose so. Era wise, where are we hovering?
- [27:37]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Oh, I would say we're from. All right. From 75. From a television standpoint, because they're all still big names. I'll give you a win. One of them is no longer with us. But the TV areas run from 75 to the mid-90s.
- [27:54]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [27:55]
Rosenberg
To the mid-90s.
- [27:56]
Don Hahn
Yes.
- [27:58]
Rosenberg
God, why out of the gate? Does this feel so much harder than I would have thought?
- [28:01]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I'm surprised.
- [28:02]
Don Hahn
I thought you.
- [28:02]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Because the names really float for us in the Uber.
- [28:05]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [28:06]
Rosenberg
So any. Anything else? Stay in the 70s?
- [28:08]
Don Hahn
Yes. In fact, the one that is no longer with us.
- [28:13]
Rosenberg
Andy Kaufman.
- [28:14]
Don Hahn
No, but you're on that. No, I'm on the right.
- [28:19]
Rosenberg
I'm on the right.
- [28:20]
Don Hahn
No, I was gonna say you were on. You're in the right.
- [28:23]
Rosenberg
Give me Tom Hanks.
- [28:24]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Tom Hanks is absolutely on the way.
- [28:26]
Don Hahn
Give me.
- [28:26]
Rosenberg
I need a bell.
- [28:27]
Don Hahn
I need a bell. There we go.
- [28:28]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Very effect. Tom Hanks ranking is it's bosom buddy. So it wasn't like it was a big. It was. But it wasn't like it wasn't good.
- [28:36]
Rosenberg
Show at it.
- [28:37]
Don Hahn
All right, now it's happening.
- [28:39]
Rosenberg
Give me Robin Williams.
- [28:41]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Absolutely.
- [28:42]
Booger McFarland
From Mort. Of course.
- [28:44]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
The first appearance on Happy Day. See, now we've broken the seal. Now it's going to flood out.
- [28:49]
Don Hahn
Oh, no. If you get one of them is. It's tough, but it's legit.
- [28:57]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
But the one se. One he's not getting. He may not realize he might not.
- [29:01]
Don Hahn
Have watched the show. Might not have watched it. Right. That's why I said.
- [29:03]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
But one of them is right there in your face.
- [29:05]
Rosenberg
One of. One of them. I'm guessing you're. I can't imagine you're gonna count this one gigantic movie star, but a smaller television star.
- [29:14]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
All right.
- [29:15]
Rosenberg
And that would be George Clooney.
- [29:16]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
George Clooney is on the List. Wow.
- [29:18]
Rosenberg
ER was a big show.
- [29:20]
Don Hahn
I didn't think you'd get that.
- [29:21]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Wow.
- [29:22]
Rosenberg
I wasn't thinking about er. I forgot. I was thinking about Roseanne.
- [29:24]
Don Hahn
Right.
- [29:25]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Well, see, if it was just Roseanne. I don't know if you make the list, but you got. He's. He's a monster.
- [29:33]
Don Hahn
Okay, so then the one that he should get.
- [29:34]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
There's one that's right there.
- [29:35]
Rosenberg
There's one that scared me right in the face.
- [29:37]
Don Hahn
Right in the face from what you.
- [29:38]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
It's in your wheelhouse.
- [29:40]
Don Hahn
Literally in your face right there.
- [29:42]
Rosenberg
It's got to be Will Smith. Will Smith. All right.
- [29:46]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That was outstanding.
- [29:47]
Booger McFarland
Look at you.
- [29:48]
Rosenberg
I'm proud. I didn't get one wrong, did I?
- [29:50]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
We believed in you now. Now we know Robin Williams, George Clooney, Tom Hanks, John Travolta and Will Smith.
- [29:57]
Rosenberg
That's a huge. Those are hoes.
- [29:59]
Booger McFarland
Are you.
- [29:59]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Are you okay now with Michael J. Fox not being.
- [30:02]
Rosenberg
Yeah, he has to be out.
- [30:03]
Don Hahn
Right.
- [30:03]
Rosenberg
Because ultimately his film career is. He's associated with one of the greatest and biggest movies ever made. But after that, you know, it's a nice career, Doc. Hollywood, other guy.
- [30:15]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Now the other one, Michael J.
- [30:17]
Don Hahn
Fox, missed the playoffs by a game. Yeah, that's how you'd put this. Right. He's there, but he missed the playoffs too big.
- [30:22]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
This guy is. Is the 22 Mets. It's 100 wins. Yeah, but who you taking out? Because this is pretty significant.
- [30:31]
Rosenberg
Hold on, hold on. Are you going to go? Are you going to go Denzel Washington?
- [30:37]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
No, we're not going Denzel.
- [30:38]
Rosenberg
Did you think about Denzel?
- [30:39]
Don Hahn
No, no.
- [30:40]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
What was his tv?
- [30:42]
Rosenberg
I think he was on St. Elmo's Fire.
- [30:44]
Don Hahn
Oh, was he a main character?
- [30:47]
Rosenberg
He might have been.
- [30:48]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I don't. But I don't know. Was he a television star?
- [30:50]
Rosenberg
Listen, if. Here's the problem, all right, is that if I'm right, it's. It's tough for the whole list. But I don't.
- [30:56]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
But the fact he said. The fact that you're not sure, it.
- [31:00]
Rosenberg
Means at least the TV part wasn't as significant elsewhere. St. Elsewhere. Not St. Elmo's Fire. Sorry.
- [31:04]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [31:04]
Rosenberg
And he was a race.
- [31:06]
Don Hahn
Believe. I believe so.
- [31:07]
Rosenberg
St. Elmo's Fire is a movie. St. Elsewhere was the TV show. I think he was a. I think he was a main character on St. Elsewhere.
- [31:14]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Are you taking anybody out?
- [31:15]
Rosenberg
But are you taking anyone out? That's the question. Does it not. I still don't know if you're knocking anyone off. Everyone. He's on the he's on the same echelon with those guys.
- [31:23]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
But he's not from a movie standpoint.
- [31:25]
Rosenberg
But not from a TV standpoint.
- [31:26]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Television work. Kind of. Kind of Clooney esque a little bit. I'm just looking at. Because he had appeared in some TV movies. I'm just trying to see when, like.
- [31:37]
Rosenberg
Timing wise, if it. If it was after his.
- [31:40]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And he was in. He was 137 episodes. He's right there. Like when they show the St. Elmo elsewhere.
- [31:47]
Rosenberg
He's from.
- [31:48]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
He's right there.
- [31:48]
Don Hahn
He's in the front.
- [31:51]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That's interesting.
- [31:52]
Don Hahn
That's pretty interesting. All right.
- [31:53]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
But the one we were talking.
- [31:54]
Rosenberg
Okay.
- [31:55]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Is Bruce Willis.
- [31:56]
Rosenberg
Oh, that's very Moonlighting. Moonlighting Gigantic.
- [31:59]
Don Hahn
Yeah, he's right there.
- [32:00]
Rosenberg
It's a big successful show.
- [32:02]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And the other honorable mention that we have is Jennifer Aniston.
- [32:07]
Rosenberg
You know what? It's such a great point because she really did turn it into a big.
- [32:11]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Movie from a movie career. Who are you taking out?
- [32:14]
Rosenberg
Who you taking out?
- [32:15]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That's the thing.
- [32:15]
Don Hahn
Because I would put.
- [32:16]
Rosenberg
She's good at movies.
- [32:17]
Don Hahn
Would you put her like, like, yeah, she's.
- [32:20]
Rosenberg
She's.
- [32:21]
Don Hahn
She's probably the most significant. I mean, Sally Fields, another one that came up of females who started TV. Sally Field was Gidget way back in the 60s. And she's turned. I mean, think about Gigantic. All the movies that she's done. Not.
- [32:35]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Not Goldie Hawn. She was in Laughing.
- [32:38]
Don Hahn
There you go. And that was the thing. The variety shows like Eddie Murphy, snl.
- [32:42]
Rosenberg
No, you're not.
- [32:42]
Don Hahn
You know, Jim Carrey on In Living Culture. Obviously.
- [32:46]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Yeah, but. Yeah, there were. There were.
- [32:48]
Booger McFarland
There's a.
- [32:48]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of people that make.
- [32:50]
Rosenberg
By the way. By the way, you could do. Another one came from a variety show. Biggest stars.
- [32:56]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [32:56]
Rosenberg
Then you got all of SNL and.
- [32:58]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
All of that would be huge. Now, if you're. So you're good with the honorable mention, Bruce Willis. Let's. Let's throw Denzel in the honorable.
- [33:07]
Rosenberg
Yeah, I mean, I think that's the biggest controversy. But again, if none of us remembered St. Elsewhere that well, that is a big show. But it was a big show.
- [33:15]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Here's what's fair. Who's a bigger movie star, George Clooney or Denzel? It's really close.
- [33:23]
Rosenberg
It's really close. Denzel is the bigger icon, like Hollywood icon. It's going to be Denzel, more famous star.
- [33:33]
Don Hahn
It's so cool that that in itself could be a whole half Hour debate. Because I'm with you on it. Equalizer trilogy, like everything that Denzel legend.
- [33:45]
Rosenberg
But Clooney's really, really famous and handsome as the.
- [33:49]
Don Hahn
He's a movie.
- [33:50]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
So if you were to rank them, I. I guess because we're having the debate, Clooney would be five.
- [33:55]
Don Hahn
Yeah, right. Yeah. That's fair.
- [33:56]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Now, who would be one of the other four? Would it be Tom Hank has to.
- [34:01]
Rosenberg
Be number one always.
- [34:02]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
So I would have Hanks one.
- [34:04]
Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [34:04]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Robin Williams two.
- [34:05]
Rosenberg
Yeah, keep going. I forget, let me get.
- [34:07]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And then you've got Will Smith. You've got John Travolta.
- [34:10]
Rosenberg
I don't know. Is Rob Williams over Will Smith?
- [34:12]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I would put John Travolta for fame. All right, here's.
- [34:14]
Rosenberg
Where is it. Is it fame or success?
- [34:17]
Don Hahn
Well, all of it's.
- [34:18]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Well, here's the thing. Here's the. The thing that hurts Travolta. All right? He hits the movies with, you know, Saturday Night Fever is iconic, right? That's an iconic.
- [34:28]
Rosenberg
Disappears for 17 years in the middle, whatever the number is.
- [34:31]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
He didn't disappear outside of the look who's Talking franchise.
- [34:34]
Rosenberg
Well, that was the beginning of the comeback, right?
- [34:36]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And then the big comeback was Pulp Fiction. But I would have. I would have Travolt at 4. So if we Clooney 5, Travolta 4, Williams 1, and Hanks 1, Williams 2, then that would put Will Smith 3. Will Smith 3. You good with that? Are we okay with that?
- [34:53]
Rosenberg
Well, the only question is.
- [34:54]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
So, like, to me, Will Smith is.
- [34:56]
Rosenberg
A movie star, so Robin Williams is a more impactful actor, I might say, than Will Smith. But Will Smith's definitely a bigger star. Will Smith, if it's stardom, he's two. It's Hanks then Smith in stardom. I. I might. Am I crazy for saying that? I mean, he's like the epitome of blockbuster star. Robin Williams stayed. He's a huge, famous, beloved guy. But he wasn't. He wasn't like a. You don't put him in the star of the summer block.
- [35:24]
Booger McFarland
True.
- [35:24]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
But then. But you look at it, Mork and Mindy was, I think, bigger than Fresh Prince.
- [35:29]
Rosenberg
Oh, God, no. Can't be. Can't be.
- [35:32]
Don Hahn
I don't know about that.
- [35:32]
Rosenberg
Can't be.
- [35:33]
Don Hahn
Yeah, I'm having a hard time. Can't be defending that one, Morgan.
- [35:35]
Rosenberg
Mindy is.
- [35:36]
Booger McFarland
Is.
- [35:36]
Rosenberg
I think younger people. I don't think so.
- [35:39]
Don Hahn
I'm going to go. You. I'm going to give you the. Because best.
- [35:41]
Rosenberg
Whereas I think Fresh. I think Fresh Prince has Stood the test of time.
- [35:44]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Let me give you one. Age. Much better.
- [35:46]
Don Hahn
Yeah. Let me give you that. Their best three movies are known for. Want to do that?
- [35:50]
Rosenberg
Yeah, sure.
- [35:51]
Don Hahn
Because they're both. Because when you get the four on both of them, it's like. Yeah. So Robin Williams, Mrs. Doubtfire, Good Morning America, the Birdcage. Known for those three movies the most.
- [36:00]
Rosenberg
That's what it says.
- [36:01]
Don Hahn
That's what, that's what IMDb says. Okay.
- [36:03]
Rosenberg
Will Smith.
- [36:04]
Don Hahn
Will Smith, Men in Black, Independence Day, I am Legend.
- [36:09]
Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [36:09]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [36:10]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And Independence, Independence Day, I am Legend would be there.
- [36:13]
Don Hahn
It's, it's, it's based on, I guess the searches. So yeah, it's what he's known for. All right.
- [36:18]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I would.
- [36:18]
Rosenberg
That's cool.
- [36:19]
Don Hahn
I don't think you.
- [36:21]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
So I would be all right with, with.
- [36:23]
Rosenberg
It's got to be Smith.
- [36:24]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
With Smith to Williams 3. But it's a really good list. And, and just so we have it for social media purposes, Bruce Willis, Jennifer Aniston, Denzel Washington as our honorable. And Michael J. Fox is our honorable.
- [36:39]
Rosenberg
That's, that's, it's an impression.
- [36:40]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That is a. That's a pretty good list.
- [36:41]
Rosenberg
This is one of the great lists ever. That's the show on this.
- [36:44]
Don Hahn
That's a league. You have to expand the playoffs.
- [36:46]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That's a podcast. Here's my dream. Here's my dream. It gets sponsored. That's just a little something. Just a little for me.
- [36:55]
Rosenberg
Now you're drinking. Now you're drinking.
- [36:57]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Do me this little favorite little thing. A little for me. For me. But the other dream is that we get the. Where certain ones are so good. We do, we do an independent podcast on. And this would be one of them. But we could do an hour on this easy.
- [37:13]
Don Hahn
I'm always, I'm always up for that.
- [37:15]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And then of course the book, which eventually.
- [37:17]
Don Hahn
Well, I'm telling you, that's. That's in progress. But, but the list as a podcast break off from the show, spin off podcast from the show called the List. We do a once a week podcast based on the list and give you another like a full half hour, whatever it is. Discussion.
- [37:34]
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Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast.
- [39:05]
Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
- [39:07]
Don Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you want. Get your podcast. Well, so you obviously know the theme songs.
- [39:18]
Rosenberg
Oh, sure.
- [39:19]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Like, this is.
- [39:20]
Don Hahn
I mean, this might be one of the most famous TV show theme songs. It's a big, like, give me somebody that doesn't know this song or can't even sing at least the beginning of it. Right?
- [39:33]
Rosenberg
Did I. Did I know it before May sampled it?
- [39:35]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That's the question. Wow.
- [39:39]
Don Hahn
No, come on.
- [39:39]
Rosenberg
I know it.
- [39:40]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Well, now, now the, the Peter's gonna make fun of me. Well, Michael would be the one to make fun of me because apparently he was brilliant out of the womb.
- [39:47]
Don Hahn
Who was?
- [39:48]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Michael. But I kind of learned. So welcome Back Cotters on. So it premieres in 75. So I'm 8 years old, 7 years old, and it may not have been the first season. So I'm like 8 years old watching the show. And I asked my father what was the original show? He's like, what do you mean? I said, well, was there a show on before called Carter or Cotter? And now he's back. Is this the spin off, like. Cause it's welcome Back Cotter. So actually, I think there's an air of, like, intelligence there.
- [40:28]
Rosenberg
I agree.
- [40:28]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Like, I'm thinking like, oh, it's welcome Back Carter. So when I was too young to understand that he went to the school, he was a sweetheart. And then he overcame and became a teacher and wanted to give Back to the kids. That's a little over an eight year old's head. Sure. But at least I was smart enough to think, well, is this a spinoff? Was there a show called Cotter back in like, my dad's time in the 50s or 60s, and now he's come back and it's welcome back, Cotter.
- [40:51]
Rosenberg
This is an acceptable take for a child. It's very. It's acceptable.
- [40:55]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I think it's almost like a sign of like, intellectual thought.
- [40:58]
Rosenberg
I mean, I've told you this before, but when I was younger, I thought the word was spatula and people were mispronouncing it with a New York accent by saying spatula.
- [41:07]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Oh.
- [41:08]
Rosenberg
I was like, well, no one can say spatula. The word is spatula. Why would a word be spatula? That doesn't sound like a word.
- [41:15]
Don Hahn
Yeah, I get it.
- [41:16]
Rosenberg
It should end in an R. Listen.
- [41:17]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I was saying supposedly until like college.
- [41:20]
Rosenberg
By the way, you can just get that ready for an intro to the show. You don't think that I was supposedly until college will be on an intro to our show. I. Thank you. How long do you go with library? No. Liberry? No, just supposedly.
- [41:37]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I think when I was a kid, it was always came across like grocery chopping. It came across food shopping. Food shopping.
- [41:43]
Don Hahn
That's right.
- [41:44]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Food shopping.
- [41:44]
Don Hahn
Food shopping.
- [41:45]
Rosenberg
Shopping.
- [41:45]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Yeah.
- [41:45]
Don Hahn
Because it said.
- [41:46]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
It's just when you say it's like, oh, I've got to go food shopping.
- [41:49]
Don Hahn
Yeah, I used to hear that all the time too little kids.
- [41:52]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
When did. When beyond. Look at me. Honestly. When did you realize maybe from. Maybe from birth that it was wheelbarrow and not barrel.
- [42:03]
Rosenberg
Oh, wheel. I was saying wheelbarrow until two weeks ago.
- [42:09]
Don Hahn
Thank you.
- [42:10]
Rosenberg
I was a barrow.
- [42:12]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I might have been.
- [42:13]
Rosenberg
What the hell's a barrel?
- [42:14]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I might. I might have found that out in my 30s.
- [42:16]
Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [42:16]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Like, because you don't hear it that often. Right. And it kind of makes sense that it's a barrel, like a wheelbarrow. Like, I mean, you're not gonna correct yourself. Like, if. If you found out somebody was calling it barrow, you'd be like, no, no, no, it's a barrel today, Jacob. I was today years old when I.
- [42:35]
Rosenberg
Found out he thought it was barrel up until today.
- [42:37]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That makes me feel. And I. And I find Jacob to be an intelligent person.
- [42:40]
Rosenberg
Sure. I mean, he's at least functional.
- [42:43]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Say he. I can't go run the board. No, but because it makes sense, right, Jacob?
- [42:48]
Booger McFarland
Like it.
- [42:49]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That's a barrel.
- [42:50]
Booger McFarland
It's a barrel. You're rolling on Wheels.
- [42:52]
Rosenberg
But it's a roll now. Alan, I had a hip hop realization this week and that I was like, I was sort of embarrassed that it. It's such an obvious line and I never knew the meaning of it. You can be honest. If it didn't cross your mind either, say it. But I. I think it's. I'm dumb for not knowing it. The classic fife dog line. I never let a statue tell me how nice I am. I did not process what that meant until this week. Oh, you don't know either because you would immediately know. It's very obvious.
- [43:24]
Don Hahn
I thought it was about an award.
- [43:26]
Rosenberg
It is. Yeah, that's it.
- [43:28]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [43:28]
Rosenberg
Like Grammys don't matter. I never let a statue tell me how nice. I. I know it's simple. I never.
- [43:33]
Don Hahn
I thought you would have gotten that. Which means that maybe I was wrong. Deeper level, the fact that they never got acknowledged that.
- [43:39]
Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [43:39]
Don Hahn
At the. The MTV.
- [43:40]
Rosenberg
They didn't win. They didn't win. Whatever. VMAs.
- [43:42]
Don Hahn
Yeah, VMAs in the Grammys. Right.
- [43:44]
Rosenberg
And Don, it's like a very obvious line. I never let a statue tell me how nice I am. But for whatever reason, I heard it a million times.
- [43:50]
Don Hahn
And you were like, what did he.
- [43:50]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Call me right away when you said it?
- [43:51]
Rosenberg
What does he mean by statue?
- [43:52]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Who's the statue? But as far as mispronunciations are concerned, if it's not a word you use all the time, nobody corrects you. Then it becomes a habit.
- [43:59]
Rosenberg
Supposedly.
- [44:00]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Then finally I remember, it was Sabrina Nikowski. C.J. nikowski's sister.
- [44:06]
Don Hahn
Sure.
- [44:06]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
We hung out together in suffering. And one time she looked at me, said, will you stop? There's no band. Will you stop? And I'm like, what are you talking about? You keep saying supposable this. What's the matter with you?
- [44:16]
Rosenberg
Is that a P?
- [44:16]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Is it. What are you doing? Supposedly. You're going to college, for God's sake.
- [44:22]
Rosenberg
Now it's embarrassed.
- [44:23]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
She embarrassed me right in front.
- [44:24]
Rosenberg
Now let's help someone else.
- [44:25]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
You know what? That's what I want. That's again, if somebody had said, don, you're a pug. Lose weight, you pig.
- [44:29]
Booger McFarland
Nobody.
- [44:30]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Michael sent a picture. Did you see the picture that Michael sent?
- [44:33]
Rosenberg
I saw it.
- [44:34]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Were you on the thread?
- [44:34]
Rosenberg
Yes, he was.
- [44:36]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Alan saw Emily because Michael looked at that picture and go, you know what? Don's right. I should have said something.
- [44:40]
Booger McFarland
Yeah.
- [44:41]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Did you get that picture, Anthony?
- [44:42]
Don Hahn
And I saw the picture and I said, yeah, Michael, you should have said, yeah, somebody.
- [44:46]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Right, Alan, you would have said something. Not all of us.
- [44:48]
Rosenberg
A bad picture.
- [44:49]
Don Hahn
I would have done.
- [44:50]
Rosenberg
Now let's do someone a favor right now. There's someone in the car driving right now who's a generally intelligent person who likes to say and doesn't think anything of it. Irregardless.
- [45:00]
Don Hahn
Let's just call that that.
- [45:01]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
A lot of people do. I'm not going to mention who, but somebody that I worked with extensively always said it and I just didn't have the guts to cry.
- [45:09]
Rosenberg
Just so you know, it's irrespective or regardless.
- [45:13]
Don Hahn
Right.
- [45:14]
Rosenberg
Two words that mean the same thing. But they were at some point a moron put them together and it became irregardless.
- [45:19]
Don Hahn
Irregardless actually means the opposite of regardless.
- [45:23]
Rosenberg
You would think so. Right?
- [45:23]
Don Hahn
Because it's not. Not in regard.
- [45:25]
Rosenberg
Right. You'd be taking off the regardless sort.
- [45:28]
Don Hahn
Of like actually it's not.
- [45:29]
Rosenberg
It's not. The point is don't. Just don't. Yeah.
- [45:31]
Don Hahn
Because what we do, we create.
- [45:33]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
If you believe that irregardless actually is a word, then when would you use?
- [45:37]
Rosenberg
You don't know. You wouldn't even know what to know. So just. It's regardless.
- [45:41]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Quick. This is going to go over everybody's head. But it's that kind of day that Paulie Holiday died.
- [45:46]
Don Hahn
Flo.
- [45:47]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Yeah, he knew. Kiss My Grits.
- [45:49]
Don Hahn
Kiss My Grits.
- [45:50]
Rosenberg
Oh, I remember. Kiss My Grits.
- [45:52]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
It's a TV day today.
- [45:54]
Don Hahn
Mel's Diner.
- [45:55]
Rosenberg
That was Mel's Diner. That's.
- [45:56]
Don Hahn
That show was Alice.
- [45:57]
Rosenberg
Alice was the show.
- [45:59]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Ill Advised. Spin off.
- [46:00]
Don Hahn
Spin off.
- [46:00]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
They try to keep it alive after everybody. After Alice left.
- [46:03]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [46:03]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
It became Mel's Diner and then it died.
- [46:05]
Rosenberg
How long did Alice run for good.
- [46:07]
Don Hahn
Too long. Yeah.
- [46:08]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
You weren't. You weren't a fan.
- [46:10]
Don Hahn
I mean, it was good for a minute and then it just got ridiculous because Alice is a waitress in a diner who was saving lives in like from.
- [46:16]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Alice doesn't live here.
- [46:17]
Don Hahn
Like somehow had 76 to 85.
- [46:20]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Ain't nothing. That's a run decade.
- [46:21]
Don Hahn
That's a run.
- [46:21]
Rosenberg
That's a big run. That's one of the first shows I remember seeing, but yet I don't remember.
- [46:26]
Don Hahn
Another example of how when we didn't have social media or anything else and you were stuck watching television, you just eventually just stopped on something and that. That shows like that could last forever.
- [46:35]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
A bunch of people have some really good suggestions for our list. King in Brooklyn, you're on ESPN New York. What do you got? King?
- [46:42]
Booger McFarland
King, hey, how you doing?
- [46:44]
Don Hahn
What's Up.
- [46:45]
Booger McFarland
How you doing? Can you hear me?
- [46:46]
Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [46:46]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Oh, yeah.
- [46:48]
Booger McFarland
All right, cool. So I was wondering. I'm gonna run through a few things because I don't get a chance to call you guys that much, but I love you guys. When you put Woody Harrelson, he has to be on your honorable dictionary. That's a good one.
- [46:59]
Rosenberg
Cheers.
- [47:00]
Booger McFarland
Good. I remember him on Saxon Life, but because I love you guys. Oh, real quick. I don't know if you did this already done, but top five list for movies with trilogies. Rocky. 1, 2, 3. I'm gonna say equalizer. 1, 2, 3, Star wars, yada, yada, yada. And because I love you, I gotta share this, too. I think you guys are all on crack for not putting Denzel Washington in the top five.
- [47:25]
Don Hahn
I am. I'm pleading ignorance. Like, I didn't watch it elsewhere. I didn't watch an elsewhere. It's kind of just before I Into anything that was not either just, you know, slapstick comedy or cartoons.
- [47:38]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
But I was going to ask him who he's taken out.
- [47:40]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [47:41]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Now, Phil Mund, who's a friend of mine, and Bodhi and my son Marco are best friends.
- [47:47]
Don Hahn
Nice.
- [47:47]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
He ran Mork and Mindy versus Fresh Prince of Bel Air through AI.
- [47:51]
Rosenberg
Oh, wow.
- [47:53]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Mork and Mindy. Best ever ranking was the 78. 79 season. It was number three.
- [47:59]
Booger McFarland
Three.
- [48:01]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Best ranking for Fresh Prince was in 92. 93. 16.
- [48:06]
Rosenberg
Does that mean in terms of other.
- [48:08]
Don Hahn
Like in.
- [48:09]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
In the ratings. More committed.
- [48:13]
Don Hahn
Assuming Fresh Prince was Never a top 10 show. Never top 10.
- [48:17]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
So, like, I. I'm not. I'm not going to get into an argument with. Because I think it really matters. When you were born, Morindi was a monster.
- [48:23]
Don Hahn
It was.
- [48:23]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And it was all. It was all because of him.
- [48:26]
Rosenberg
Yeah, he was it.
- [48:27]
Don Hahn
Hysteric.
- [48:28]
Rosenberg
So was Fresh Prince.
- [48:29]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Right.
- [48:29]
Rosenberg
But in respect.
- [48:30]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
But from a rating. From a rating standpoint. Didn't.
- [48:32]
Rosenberg
Well, it's. But isn't that interesting because I believe you 100% that it was a bigger thing at the time. But as. So my parents are named Mike and Mindy, so Mork and Mindy has, like, hovered around my entire life. Once that show. Once we got to like the like late 80s. Like, no one I know ever talked about that show. It's. Whereas, like Fresh Prince, I think now has made children.
- [48:56]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Hey, listen, what was the. Was the better show I. There still. When. When will I get Fresh Prince of Bel Air? So what was it again? What was his name in the show again?
- [49:07]
Rosenberg
Will.
- [49:07]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Will. Yeah. Okay. So that's why when his father left him. Like, I, I. They'll throw it up on. On X every once in a while, and I'll cry.
- [49:15]
Rosenberg
Oh, no.
- [49:15]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
That's like Morgan. He never had that.
- [49:18]
Rosenberg
The next level.
- [49:18]
Don Hahn
Right.
- [49:19]
Rosenberg
But. But it was a big show. That was a big show, but he's not there. He's not at the level. I think we're fine not having him on, but it's certainly worthy of an honorable mention. Like Woody Harrelson, Steve Carell.
- [49:32]
Don Hahn
Yes.
- [49:32]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
I don't think he's the monster movie star. Who are you taking out?
- [49:36]
Rosenberg
No, you're not. You can't take anyone out.
- [49:37]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
But he made a good jump on that same TV show. Here's Luca and soho. You're on.
- [49:43]
Rosenberg
This is good.
- [49:45]
Booger McFarland
Hey, what's up, guys? It's not a no. No brainer. Or I would say I would classify it more as a honorable mention. Yeah. Honorable mention. Just because I don't even think his.
- [49:56]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Career has all the movies yet, but.
- [49:58]
Booger McFarland
John presents the right because he started in the office and I guess he has, you know, a few good movies and.
- [50:04]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Yeah, leather. Yeah, that's. It's a good one. He's actually become a good director. Didn't he direct it?
- [50:11]
Rosenberg
If. No, no. He directed the silent movie Quiet Place.
- [50:18]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
Yes, I think he also did not if. Yeah. Imaginary friend. And you will. What? We've talked about this on the case show. You'll watch movies for Maya and you'll be crippled emotion.
- [50:33]
Rosenberg
Oh, no, I know. I told you. Remember the first time I watched the one with the old lady? What was it up.
- [50:37]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
The old lady.
- [50:38]
Rosenberg
The old man.
- [50:39]
Don Hahn
Well, but, but he.
- [50:40]
Rosenberg
But it's the old man.
- [50:41]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And the old man of the scene is they kicked you right in the groin the first five minutes.
- [50:48]
Rosenberg
Punch in the gut.
- [50:49]
Don Hahn
Really. No, no. That's what they. They got you in.
- [50:51]
Host (possibly Don Hahn or Rosenberg alternate)
And the kids don't think, like, depending on, like, so Maya watch that at 2 or 3 and like, it doesn't matter. And you're sitting there sobbing and they're looking. You're like, what's the matter?
- [50:59]
Don Hahn
She just wants to see the dog.
- [51:01]
Rosenberg
Yeah, exactly. Doesn't even understand that you've been crippled emotionally.
- [51:04]
Don Hahn
The rest of us are just. We're in tears and they're looking at us. What? Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
- [51:12]
Rosenberg
I don't want to know how the.
- [51:13]
Don Hahn
Sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
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