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Don La Greca
This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Peter Rosenberg
That sounds like heaven to me.
Alan Hahn
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3.
Don La Greca
On 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
Alan Hahn
All right, we can't talk about on the air, but Alan is sending out some information.
Peter Rosenberg
I can't wait to just let it.
Alan Hahn
Go off the air. You'll tell me, though?
Don La Greca
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Wow, you really do have all the inside info. By the way, Don, I need a. I have a new name drop I want to make for. For Alan.
Don La Greca
What do I do now more so.
Alan Hahn
Than his name dropping? I need the right drop. Don, I think you're gonna appreciate this for every time he references that he used to be a beat writer.
Peter Rosenberg
I.
Don La Greca
It was pertinent to today's discussion.
Alan Hahn
Hold on. It's pertinent almost every time you bring it up. That doesn't mean I don't need a drop for it. Guys, I was a beat writer, okay? Now, in my days as a beat writer, now, Don, when I was a.
Don La Greca
Beat writer, you know, I was told you have to remind the audience of your credentials because not everybody knows them. It's not just like, who's this yo, yo talking about the talking media stuff, right? Like, no. Oh, just. Oh, you should be on a resume. Oh, okay.
Alan Hahn
And that's why.
Don La Greca
You know what I mean?
Alan Hahn
I'm working on a drop with Jacob right now. The right drop. But we'll get there.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't have a problem with it. You do have to re. Establish.
Alan Hahn
Guys, there's no when you want to make fun of your family member, your friend, that doesn't mean there's a problem. That means there's an opportunity.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, all I'm saying is if you.
Alan Hahn
Pay attention, if you were playing a drinking game with Alan, and one of the things was, I used to be a beat writer by Tuesday, you're drunk. That's all I'm saying.
Don La Greca
By the way, when I did my show with DiPietro back in the day, speaking of, like, drink, every time there was a bunch of college kids, there's one guy who Called. He was a college kid who called in and he said, me and my buddies listen to your show every day.
Alan Hahn
Oh, yeah, you mentioned this. What is it?
Don La Greca
And he said that they do a thing because I do the reads. And it was beginning for me as a. I didn't know how to do reeds. Of course I fumbled.
Alan Hahn
Takes time.
Don La Greca
Every time I screwed up a read, they had to drink. And so now every time I did a read, and if I would flub a little bit, Rick would jump on the mic and go, oh, these poor kids are drunk now. Like he would say every time, like. So this has happened before. New.
Alan Hahn
Exactly. Right. Oh, hold on. And maybe I'm gonna use this.
Peter Rosenberg
I drive a dog Stratus.
Don La Greca
One of my favorite scenes.
Alan Hahn
That might be.
Don La Greca
It's such a good scene.
Alan Hahn
Just give me the. Will you cut it down? Just give me the last one. Even though I love the whole thing. But to be quick, when he says. Whenever Alan says that he was a beat writer, I drive.
Peter Rosenberg
I drive a DOD Stratus.
Alan Hahn
What a great God. Pharaoh was so good in that era, man. He was a king.
Don La Greca
I can't stand you, by the way.
Alan Hahn
That's what makes me great.
Don La Greca
What were we supposed to do here? There was something somebody wanted to say. Don, you had something.
Alan Hahn
Oh, yeah. No, no, no. That's 4:30.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I'm saving it for 4:30.
Alan Hahn
4:30.
Don La Greca
We got the big half hour.
Alan Hahn
We got the big. Can't take it Tuesday. You know what I mean? Ringing off at 4:30, like you dream about.
Don La Greca
But do you want to hear. Do you want to hear from the Knicks or do you want to hear. Want to hear about the Giants now suddenly just scrambling to. Scrambling to do some window shopping for a quarterback. Dealer's choice, boys.
Alan Hahn
You tell me all of these things done.
Don La Greca
I got the board. We got it. All right, give me the Giants.
Peter Rosenberg
Give me the Giants.
Alan Hahn
Really want the Giants.
Don La Greca
You in the mock draft now? I thought you were sick of this.
Peter Rosenberg
The mock drafts make me sick. But this is not. This is beyond. Mock draft.
Don La Greca
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, as you saw, Adam Schiff, contingents. Peter, they're sending a contingent out.
Alan Hahn
I know you have to send a contingent.
Don La Greca
So it's not just a couple of people. A contingent. That's a lot of people.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't know how many people.
Don La Greca
All you in the office, all of you right here. You're going. You're going to Boulder.
Alan Hahn
Color. Gotta go.
Peter Rosenberg
Gotta go implies that not everybody went. The whole team went. That's not a contingent. When you designate a few people. Could be A hundred? Could be two.
Don La Greca
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
As long as it's not the whole organization. It's contingent. That's how I defined it.
Don La Greca
Adam Schefter reported that the Giants will have a private workout with Shador Sanders later. It was also reported they were going to have another workout with Jalen Milroe. And was Jackson Dart on that list, too? There was, like, a couple of late workouts with these different quarterbacks. Here's Shefty on on sportsmanlike on ESPN radio saying, this is not a smokescreen.
Field Yates
Obviously, there has to be some level of interest. Right. Because you're not scheduling a private workout in Boulder, Colorado, after you spent all the time that you have with Shador Sanders all year long. They've been at his games all year long. They've been tracking him all year long. They met with him. He's come to New York. They're going there. They're at the pro day. Like, there's been a ton of time invested in Shador Sanders. And so this is one final private workout to help them make a decision about whether or not they will then go ahead and draft him or not. And, I mean, that's the only way to interpret it, right? Like, you're not scheduling that private workout one week before the draft in Boulder because you have no interest. Right. It's not some smokescreen all of a sudden.
Peter Rosenberg
I disagree 100%. Hmm. I don't think this is the draft of it. Three, I think it's to do two things. One could be a smokescreen to say, hey, I really want to entice somebody that might want to trade up. The three, that I'm thinking about taking Sanders. And if you want Sanders, I'm interested, too. So what do you offer me if the Giants decide to trade out of three, that's number one. Number two, what if he falls? And can the Giants use their later picks to move back into the first round to get Sanders? Can they do that? I'm talking if Sanders were to drop to, say, Pittsburgh at 21. I'm not saying that. Or before them, but you don't know.
Don La Greca
To me, it's for them. You'd have to be careful.
Peter Rosenberg
So do I think this is them all of a sudden pivoting and saying, I think I want to see a little bit more because I'm going to take him at three? No, I don't believe that. I believe it's. I think Sanders is going to sink like a stone. And if this guy's available in the middle of the first round and I got the 34th pick I'm drafting early in the second round and I think I might be able to trade back into the first round. I want to be able to take another look at this kid to see if this is somebody I might want to trade back into the first round. 4. Do you believe they're doing this to take him at three? I don't know.
Don La Greca
And neither does Field Yates. He was on Barton Carlin. He's looking at exactly what you're saying. Field Yates, one of our draft experts for espn.
Alan Hahn
Beautiful hair on that man.
Don La Greca
Luxurious hair.
Alan Hahn
Oh my God. Like you dream about.
Don La Greca
And he believes this is about what you're saying is late first round possibility.
Field Yates
I think the better combination, and this is assuming it would work out, is one of the two non quarterbacks at three. So whichever of Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter is there, it certainly seems like it's more likely to be Abdul Carter right now and then a quarterback either at the top of the second round or very late in the first. The door that I actually feel like least comfortable with that I don't know how certain this is, but the idea of the Giants taking, let's say Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter at 3 and then making a big move up the board to like get ahead of the Steelers at number 21, because I feel like if they're trying to get from 34 to 17, 18, 19, 20, like, isn't that going to cost maybe like some valuable draft capital next year?
Don La Greca
And Tyler Schuck, by the way, is the other quarterback that the Giants are having private workouts with several Milro Shock and Sanders is his biggest name, of course, that that seems to be a logical way to go. You probably have to see can you jump ahead of Pittsburgh. You do have to consider though what it would cost you in future draft capital or even current draft capital, there has to be at least a little bit of thought because everybody loves Carter and they think if you put Carter in there with obviously Burns Thibodeau, that you have for now, Dexter Lawrence, like you could, you could set up a pretty formidable defense. But if there's a lot of value in that three pick and you feel like Carter would be redundant, do you maybe make a trade for somebody that is desperate to move up to get a quarterback and now you get some draft capital and now you're like later on going, well, one of these guys might be wherever we're going to land. So let's make sure we know for sure about these guys.
Peter Rosenberg
And I don't want them to take Sanders at 3 and not because I have any kind of feeling about Sanders. It's that you were going to go to Stafford, you were going to, you were in on Aaron Rodgers.
Don La Greca
Yep.
Peter Rosenberg
And now you're telling me at the last second you're going to kick the tires on Shadur Sanders and now he's going to be your third overall pick. That to me sounds more like, hey, if this guy's available later in the first round or if this guy for some reason drops all the way to 34, I doubt that's going to happen but I want to be able to see if he could be an option for us later. This late in the game, you can't be checking out the guy to take him at 3. Then that tells me you're not all in.
Don La Greca
No, no, no, I'm with you. I agree with that. This does feel like that they want to know. That's why they're, they're visiting with the other quarterbacks as well that are going to Milroe shuck. They weren't, they were not seen as guys that were going to be top 10. Those were seen as day two guys or late first round guys. Right. So that's probably why let's get, let's know for sure about these guys which is important. But Sanders name is the one that's been the lightning rod in this draft to a point where there are some people that don't think he's a top 10 pick. They think, you know, we had.
Alan Hahn
Mel.
Don La Greca
Kuiper tell us that if his name was Jones he'd be a second round pick. Right. He'd be a day two guy. So now we love Chris Canty.
Alan Hahn
We love Canty.
Don La Greca
He does not want to see the Giants make a move for san. I'm pleading, please, John Mara, don't do this. Don't do this. Your head coach and general manager on a hot seat. Why on God's earth are you going to take a quarterback knowing that they're not doing what's in the best interest of the kid, they're in the doing what's in the best interest of job security. It just, it makes no sense. It is maddening. Now keep in mind kanthe had a shirt today that it was the march for Arch or whatever it is, the saying that they're going with now. So he's all in on the idea of don't get a young quarterback this year, do it next year and make the target arch Manning and have Manning part two in New York. And you're just staring at me blank.
Peter Rosenberg
Because I'm trying to.
Don La Greca
Because you're a Giants fan. Trying to process.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I'm trying to get in his mind, does he want a tank or is he trying to accumulate pay?
Don La Greca
I don't think tank is something you're going to control. I think you're going to be bad regardless.
Peter Rosenberg
I know, but you never know.
Alan Hahn
And what. And you got to be bad enough and.
Don La Greca
Well, you're bad enough. You can fire everybody.
Alan Hahn
But they. Here's the thing. These things don't go together. His hope doesn't make sense.
Don La Greca
What hope?
Alan Hahn
The hope that you would end up being terrible again and get the opportunity for Arch. It doesn't. It doesn't go. It doesn't jive with who they currently have running the team.
Don La Greca
But none of the who they have running the team is. I think what Chris is suggesting is you don't want them in save your job mode because it could cost you a chance.
Peter Rosenberg
But they are. But this is what's.
Don La Greca
So don't give them a quarterback so they could say, well, we drafted the quarterback, we drafted a future.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but I almost think drafting Sanders is a. Is a death sentence to a lousy season.
Don La Greca
Why is that? Because if you don't take him in the top 10, you don't have to play him.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but you don't have to play him. But there's going to be a call to play him at some point. The idea is going to be if you don't, if you don't draft them, then you're going to see the Giants be all in on trying to save their jobs and try to win as many games as possible, which would then take you out of the Arch Manning conversation. If you draft Sanders, he takes you out of the Arch Manning conversation because you drafted Sanders. But I think you have a better chance of finishing with more wins without drafting Sanders than drafting. So I don't really see the attachment there where he's worried about, like, everybody coming back. If I were to draft Sanders, even though it goes contrary to what John Maris said at the end of the season, I almost have to give Shane and Dabel a contract extension. Right. I drafted the kid, they drafted him. I've got to let them see it through. I can't bring in another regime after you win three games.
Don La Greca
It happens in the NFL all the time.
Peter Rosenberg
But yeah, to losing organizations. Right. You don't do that. That's what they did to Caleb Williams and they stunted his growth. It's the wrong thing to do. That's what they've done to Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville. That's what they did to. To Sam Darnold in New York over and over again. You start pulling the plug on these kids. If you're going to draft Shador Sanders and he looks like he might be a bit of a project, let the guys that drafted him work with him or don't let them draft him. That's why I don't think they're drafting him, because I think they're going to go all in on trying to save their jobs and they'll. I think they might be in on Arch Manning for two reasons. They could trade up for him, or maybe they pull something like what happened with the Mannings with Eli and just say, I'm only going to the Giants and it'll just be a smooth sailing for him to go there because he could always threaten to say, I'm going to stay in college. So they might be able to work something out to get him anyway without having a tank.
Don La Greca
The Saint situation is something to keep an eye on, by the way, because what's going on there is really weird because, you know, and by the way, speaking of Manning and connections, right. Arch is named for his grandfather and he's a legend in New Orleans. So that's the other thing is you'd have to battle that whole situation as well. The Derek Carr thing has everybody's mind blown. Like Jeff Darlington was talking about it this morning and he's like texting people, asking them what happened with Derek, because at the end of the season it was all about Derek going forward, Derek and all that stuff. And he said he was not getting any concrete responses to what happened. He's just not gonna be available. He's just not. He's just all of a sudden hurt. It's like a great mystery.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. So very bizarre.
Don La Greca
So they're gonna be bad and they're gonna want a quarterback and the Matt. So if you can't just think it's the Giants, where the Giants still want to play here, he might want to. They might say New Orleans is a better draw.
Peter Rosenberg
That's a smaller marketing. I don't know how I feel about that. Peter, how do you feel about. Do you think that there's still a Manning thing in New Orleans? I mean, Archie was a good quarterback on bad teams.
Don La Greca
That was like, he's a legend there.
Peter Rosenberg
40 plus years ago.
Don La Greca
He was. But he's still a legend. I get that. Drew Brees now the guy.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm just wondering in New Orleans with drafting Arch Manning, would they even sense the connection and care Other than how good he is?
Alan Hahn
Oh, I think so, yes.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm legitimately asking. I don't know.
Alan Hahn
Well, hold on. How old, how old were the Manning brothers when they left? Where do they grow up? Didn't they grow up in that area?
Don La Greca
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
So if all of the Manning brothers, most specifically Peyton and Eli and Archie.
Don La Greca
They were both SEC guys, they grew.
Peter Rosenberg
Up, they didn't stay at school, they didn't go like to Tulane.
Don La Greca
No.
Peter Rosenberg
One went to Ole Miss and the other one went to Tennessee.
Alan Hahn
That's their legitimate family roots in that town.
Peter Rosenberg
I was just wondering if you're a Saints fan, Peter, you're 49. What are you, 45 years old? That's right, 45 year old saints fan. Does Archie Manning mean anything to you?
Alan Hahn
Yes, 100%. The team doesn't have that many. No, Bobby Abeart does. They don't have.
Peter Rosenberg
I get it. But before that, he was a great quarterback on a lousy team. They never did the playoffs. He was gone by like 1980.
Don La Greca
Let's say, let's say, let's say, you know John Namath, right? Suddenly, suddenly became like, you know, he, he went to like, I can't say Alabama, but let's just say he went somewhere Georgia, and he was a phenomenal quarterback. You're not going to tell me that jets fans would just start dreaming about it?
Peter Rosenberg
No, no, no. Because Joe Namath won you a Super Bowl. He's the only quarterback to win a Super bowl as a Jet.
Don La Greca
So that's not that.
Peter Rosenberg
Archie Manning was a really, really, really good quarterback.
Don La Greca
And they loved him there. He was love legendary there because the.
Peter Rosenberg
Team stunk and he was their only good player and he hasn't played there since 1981.
Alan Hahn
They loved him, but he was there.
Peter Rosenberg
That'd be like having to draft Ken O'Brien's son.
Alan Hahn
But, but no, hold on real quick. No, no, yeah, more than Ken O'Brien. He was there. He was there from 71 to 82.
Don La Greca
And then lived there.
Alan Hahn
Now listen, you look at his stats. Of course, stats at that time don't exactly jump on the page.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't want to make this about picking on Archie Manning, but you asked a question. Lousy basketball, lousy football team. I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm just asking the question because I was there a more.
Alan Hahn
Okay, I'm giving you an answer right now. Was there a more notable Saint prior to Drew Brees than Archie Manning?
Peter Rosenberg
Because it's Ironhead Hayward.
Alan Hahn
Because Bobby, I mean, who is it?
Peter Rosenberg
Because he never went to the playoffs. I get it.
Alan Hahn
But the fans went to games and he was the guy they want after him.
Peter Rosenberg
That is relevant.
Don La Greca
After him is when they were the ain't right. It was after him.
Alan Hahn
So, Don, I'm answering your question honestly. I'm not Guy.
Peter Rosenberg
Maybe you're right.
Alan Hahn
I think it resonates.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm just saying that. But enough that we got. We got to get our standing.
Alan Hahn
No, no, no, no.
Peter Rosenberg
My point is.
Don La Greca
But my whole point of bringing it up was that if you're like. Because obviously Chris Canty is one guy who's starting the campaign. And I'm just saying, I don't think I used to feel like this was a smart move for the Giants until I saw what the Saints did. Did and heard Jeff Darlington, who's as plugged in as anyone, saying, you know, the asking the question of, like, well, what's going on there? And no one can give him a straight answer about what happened to Derek Carr, that all of a sudden there's a lot of curiosity about what he's going to be this year and forward for that organization, which means they're going to be in the market for a quarterback. And now it's not. Oh, well, the Mannings will just make sure that Arch ends up in New York because Eli was there and it all worked out. You can't say that now because New Orleans is a legit threat as well. If Arch. And we're assuming this, but we are. If Arch is the next quarterback that everybody's salivating over in the next draft.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I just. I'm not being that guy. I'm just, like, legitimately just wondering aloud whether it would be a thing in New Orleans.
Don La Greca
Let's ask somebody from New Orleans. Nick is calling us, listening on the ESPN app. What's up, Nick?
Field Yates
Hey, fellas. I think it would absolutely be a thing here. I mean, the whole family lives here, right? They all grew up here. Arch played high school, you know, at a school called Newman, which is a storied school here. I think Archie very involved there, and I think a lot of fans want to see that. They would love to see Arch Manning.
Peter Rosenberg
Okay.
Field Yates
The quarterback as well. The Derek Carr thing is weird because I've heard this rumor floated that he doesn't, you know, want to play with a bridge quarterback, and then he's maybe kind of like finessing the injury. I'm not too sure. I think it's still, like, a little early. But, Don, I really do think that he'd be a hit here and I think a lot of fans want to see that, especially after the past couple of years and the dismal performance they've been putting out there. People really don't like Carr.
Peter Rosenberg
I was legitimately asking because it's such a strange team that went forever without making the playoffs even and in forever not even winning a playoff game. I mean, they had like Ken Stabler as a quarterback and then you just look at like Stall. Peter makes a great point. Like, who. Who jumps out at you? You know, didn't. Didn't Muncie go there late in his career? Sam Mills, I remember him at the line. Like, it's really just. Again, I don't mean to insult them, but they were the ain'ts for so long.
Don La Greca
And then Ditko went there to coach.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, Ditka, Yeah. And that was.
Alan Hahn
Oh, and then. And then of course, Ricky Williams for a moment.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, man, that was a bad.
Alan Hahn
But that wasn't the good Ricky Williams.
Don La Greca
He was a more popular college player. Really.
Peter Rosenberg
Well.
Alan Hahn
And then he found it a little bit with Miami, but it was never what he was supposed to be. And then it became a weed.
Peter Rosenberg
Maybe the tie would just be. But, boy, wouldn't it be great if a Manning. Because we did Archie wrong. Because Archie was a heck of a quarterback. I'm glad you brought up the stats, because the stats. That era was tough to throw for. But I remember growing up and like, because his last year in Saint in New Orleans was 81. So that was like, Right. My wheelhouse watching football. And Archie Manning was always like, he's probably better than Terry Bradshaw, but unfortunately he's on the Saints and Bradshaw's on the Steelers. Like, Archie Manning could have won those four Super Bowls, just as you felt bad for Archie, so maybe that would be it. But like, yeah, like, not picking on them, like, especially where my team is right now, the Giants. But like, for so long, growing up as a fan, like, the Saints were like, God. And the players I'm thinking of, like Chuck Muncie and Ken Stabler, they were like, all got established players from other teams that came there. It was bad. Even. Even when. When Bum Phillips went there, it was after Houston, like, was in Ditka after his success in Chicago.
Don La Greca
And he was miserable from the start there, too. Ditka never seemed like he was ever.
Peter Rosenberg
Having the worst Sports Illustrated cover ever.
Alan Hahn
I mean, it was tough.
Peter Rosenberg
How did they get Ricky Williams to dress in a wedding dress? How. How'd they do it?
Alan Hahn
Well, it would have been crazier if.
Peter Rosenberg
They got dick, you know, what they did.
Alan Hahn
They went by dick on the wedding dress.
Peter Rosenberg
I forgot. You know what they did? They got them high.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. By the way, it's got him high.
Don La Greca
He showed up that way. And then they were like, let's see.
Peter Rosenberg
If he'll do it.
Don La Greca
Let's see if he'll do it.
Peter Rosenberg
Willie Nelson goes, damn.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
That kid smokes from weed, man.
Alan Hahn
Chill out, Rick. But he found his place. He found his happy place.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, man.
Alan Hahn
Oh.
Don La Greca
All right. So we got.
Alan Hahn
So here's how it's gonna work.
Don La Greca
Let's just talk about our. Our. I can't take it anymore Tuesday.
Alan Hahn
I can't take it's. I can't take it Tuesday.
Don La Greca
Can't take it Tuesday.
Alan Hahn
I can't take it Tuesday. We're going to do it on the other side. Each one of the three of us will hit you with something we just absolutely cannot take in sports right now. And then we'll open the phone lines throughout the day. And if people want to throw theirs out at any point, they can give it to us. That's how we do it.
Peter Rosenberg
That's the Tuesday feel, Right?
Alan Hahn
Come on, man.
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Alan Hahn
We all hit a breaking point. We all have a moment where it's just I just hear something said. That's what it usually is for me, guys. More so than like I see a team doing something or a player doing something. For me, it's usually a conversation. But for you guys out there, who knows? Who knows what it is in sports that you can't take anymore? Maybe it's the play of the football teams here. Maybe it's the way the Knicks have been down the stretch. Maybe it's your fellow fans, maybe it's this show. But is there something you just can't take anymore? I had several things hit me in the last 24 hours, Don, that I just cannot take anymore.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, then you should start it off.
Alan Hahn
For me. It's fans in this town.
Peter Rosenberg
Wow.
Alan Hahn
I've now been here for almost 20 years. I married a true blue new Yorker. As New York as you could possibly be. I love this place. I don't plan to ever leave. But the fan bases here, guys, even the ones I like and respect, like, maybe the ones I like and respect the most, also drive me the most insane.
Don La Greca
Who do you respect the most?
Alan Hahn
The New York Knick fan base. To me, that is a loyal. I mean, a loyal, loyal fan base. But you people make me sick. You people, honestly. You people, you honestly disgust me as. As much as I love how much you love your team. Bing Bong and all that. You suffer through the ridiculous prices at MSG because the building's always full with tourists in town. And the building being an attraction, you suffer through the prices. You go out there even when the team stinks, you are there. And I respect it. But oh, my God, the Thibodeau conversation this year, it's unbearable. Like it is. You know what? I'm going to tell you one thing you could say about a lot of the bases in this town is it's some of the smartest sports fans you'll ever meet. You go to a Ranger game or an Islander game, and Don, I'm sure you're more privy to this than anyone. Simply the way that they react to whistles in the game shows you they know more than bases in other cities. Like you go to a game in Montreal, Toronto. Here, the reaction, like growing up in Washington. Respectfully, they've grown to love the Capitals, and it's a nice, solid fan base. They don't know the game the way a Ranger fan does. You guys are smart fans. You get the game. But as fans, Knicks fans, you are idiots.
Peter Rosenberg
You are absolute morons.
Alan Hahn
I mean, the crying about Tibbs. Listen, I'm not some. Listen, you could call Allen Hahn a Tibbs apologist if you want. I've never met the man in his life. He bores me to tears. I'd rather be dead then listen to him talk for five minutes. But the fact is, the proof is in the pudding. So far, this team is the best it's been in literally. At best, at least I should say a decade and change. Maybe the best it's been in decades. And yet all you talk about is getting rid of this man. I can't take it. I can't take you anymore. And I don't even have time to. To get to the other bases. I wanted to get to the Yankees, too. We don't have time today. I'll just leave it at the Knicks. That's my can't take it for this Tuesday April 15th. Allen.
Don La Greca
That's a way to start it off. That's a leadoff batter right there.
Alan Hahn
Get on baseball. Don.
Don La Greca
Don, do you want to go next or should I?
Peter Rosenberg
Well, mine's not sports.
Don La Greca
Neither is mine.
Alan Hahn
Oh, really?
Peter Rosenberg
I wanted a cup of coffee. Anthony.
Alan Hahn
Here we go.
Peter Rosenberg
Anthony volunteers and then he won't take my money. And then, you know John Winthrop of our pinhead suits getting mad at me for having him go, which he volunteered and that I'm not giving him any money. What? I'm trying. I'm basically putting 10 bucks in his pocket. Tell him to keep the change. Why am I painted as a bad guy? Peter's the bad guy. Peter's the one that sends interns and people on staff to go park.
Don La Greca
How did you get pulled into this?
Peter Rosenberg
I volunteered.
Alan Hahn
Why am I in the back?
Peter Rosenberg
Why am I being reprimanded by my.
Alan Hahn
Boss about how much?
Peter Rosenberg
That's alright. You know what? I'm gonna pivot right in the middle. Get these damn mics fixed. I'm screaming into it and people can't hear me. It's right in front of my face. 30 years of doing radio, Don. You're not talking into the microphone. I'm talking into the microphone. I have the same way for 30 years. Now all of a sudden, over the last two weeks, you can't hear me.
Alan Hahn
Maybe it's your problem.
Peter Rosenberg
Maybe it's your problem. You guys out there, get me a workable mic. It's on you. 30 years talking around Mike's omnidirectional. Everybody can hear me except you now.
Alan Hahn
It's your fault, Troy.
Peter Rosenberg
It's your fault.
Alan Hahn
All you people. How did Troy catch it?
Peter Rosenberg
Cuz I was. He's the only one that was in my sight. That's what he gets for walking in my sight when I'm in a. Don't, don't walk away now. There's people walking by the window. Look at me.
Don La Greca
They will not look at you.
Peter Rosenberg
Look at me.
Alan Hahn
With your master's hat, you're a tool.
Don La Greca
It's funny how everybody came to the window to watch and then everybody ran away and nobody wanted to make eye contact with you.
Alan Hahn
That was not where I expected this to go.
Don La Greca
Like you guys. That's a grand slam home run. That's what that was.
Peter Rosenberg
Hear me then.
Don La Greca
I could hear you, but I wanted it to be like strong.
Alan Hahn
It was strong.
Don La Greca
It ended up being strong.
Alan Hahn
No, you know what it is though? I, I, there is something about this mic.
Don La Greca
I think the acoustic situation.
Alan Hahn
When he yells though, it echoes like don Talk, talk. Just try. Try just talking very low like this.
Peter Rosenberg
How you doing?
Don La Greca
See, but when he yells, it just bounces off the ceiling.
Alan Hahn
But by the way, I mean, I'm a yeller. But by the way, in Don's defense, your radio studio should be prepared for that.
Don La Greca
I'm looking up at a ceiling that is not. This is an office ceiling, not a soundproof ceiling. And that's where we're getting it because the walls are all soundproof. Look at. Look. Look at this. Beautiful. This is a gorgeous studio.
Alan Hahn
Beautiful. Like you dream about the ceiling.
Peter Rosenberg
Me about the coffee, though.
Don La Greca
We're in and we're in and off.
Alan Hahn
Well, no. And Don's had this before because wasn't there a thing last. What happened on that time? You asked for coffee, and then someone almost made it sound like you were going to have them pay for it. That happened recently, too, where you were like, yeah, obviously, I'm going to pay for it. What? You remember that? We were at a remote. We were at a remote, and he asked someone, could you go grab a coffee? And they were like, well, you got to have them pay.
Peter Rosenberg
It was. It wasn't them. It was John again.
Don La Greca
That was at the remote.
Alan Hahn
Oh, John again.
Don La Greca
Because I had somebody get me a tea.
Peter Rosenberg
I got to tell you, for somebody, that's my boss, it sounds like if it were up to him completely, he'd be gone. He wouldn't be my boss anymore.
Alan Hahn
Wow. You think he would have let you go? All right, now, Alan, it's your turn.
Don La Greca
Well, first of all, Anthony's a martyr. We all know this.
Peter Rosenberg
He is like.
Don La Greca
This is what he does.
Alan Hahn
He is. Anthony's a martyr.
Don La Greca
He completely just. Well, he's the guy that. If the sword's there, I'll fall on it for everybody. Don't worry about.
Peter Rosenberg
He's still. Look at the change. He's still sitting there.
Alan Hahn
Even.
Peter Rosenberg
Even the.
Alan Hahn
Even. He won't take it.
Peter Rosenberg
The silver.
Alan Hahn
Oh, yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
He could at least pocketed the silver.
Don La Greca
Like. Like, I have an Irish mother and that's what they do. No, no, no, you don't. I'll do it. Oh, don't worry about me. I alone don't worry. Oh, you need. Yeah, that's. That's literally. Anthony is an Irish mother. That's what he is. All right, well, mine isn't nearly as good as Don's now at this point, I should have went second. Yeah, that was.
Alan Hahn
That would have been.
Don La Greca
You had the opportunity. Mine, though, is something I think is relatable to all. And you're in that Situation where you don't know what to do. So, like, I can't take it. When you go on the train, especially during the day, and it's nice and quiet and just sit down. And then on comes somebody who is on speaker, but not like just speaker where you can hear. Little speaker on Max.
Chevy Silverado
Wow.
Don La Greca
And she's talking to whoever she's talking to about her day and the guy and the date and what he wanted and what she wasn't about to do. And then she says, hold on a second, because she's got a call, and I think it's from that company. Switches to the call. You hear somebody then ask her name, full name, this is again, out. The whole train can hear this. And then proceeds to talk about the resume that you sent to us.
Alan Hahn
No.
Don La Greca
Which now she's talking about.
Alan Hahn
No, she did not have a work hundred.
Don La Greca
So it's loud. And now I'm in this position where it's just me. Now another guy gets on. He looks at her with that side eye like, you're really doing this, right? And I don't know what to do. What's the right thing to do? Because she speaks to her friend in aggressive tones, using blue language out in the open. And then when she's talking to a prospective employer, she changes her voice completely, right? I don't know. Am I supposed to go over to her and say, hey, sweetheart, do me a favor. Why don't you put on, like, what are you doing?
Alan Hahn
You can't do any.
Don La Greca
Sweetheart, you know what I mean? Like, I don't think this is. Like this. Nobody needs to hear. This is inappropriate.
Alan Hahn
Slap her right on the rear when you do it.
Don La Greca
But you want to say something.
Alan Hahn
Why don't you give me a drink while you're at it, by the way.
Don La Greca
Nice. The nails. The nails look great. But do me a favor.
Peter Rosenberg
Why don't you quiet down a bit, huh? But you.
Don La Greca
You want to say something, but you know that if you do now, you're in. And I'm tired. I'm tired of that being in that situation.
Peter Rosenberg
Can't you.
Don La Greca
Where you can't just, you know, if you say something, you're in, and there's no getting out of it. Now.
Peter Rosenberg
It was.
Don La Greca
And so I sit there. So what do I do? I put my earbuds in instead, and I crank it up and I go, you know, noise canceling. But what about the people that don't have the earbuds or don't have? You got to sit there and listen to this and nobody can do anything about it. Because, you know, someone like that, the minute you. They want you to fight.
Alan Hahn
Oh, yeah, they are.
Don La Greca
They're looking around, waiting for somebody to complain about it. I got it on speaker. And you have to live with it. And I'm tired of that. Tired.
Alan Hahn
And you've had enough now.
Peter Rosenberg
What could he do? Peter?
Don La Greca
What do you do? There's no winning that.
Alan Hahn
He can't do very much.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I guess you would just try to go to. What? I guess not. The conductor who's the one that checks the tickets. Yeah, I guess that's what you'd have to do. And just say that.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Yeah, right.
Don La Greca
You know, you do that, though. And I'm three seats. You think she's not aware?
Alan Hahn
And now it's on.
Don La Greca
She's a ticking timer. She can't wait for me to say something.
Alan Hahn
And now it's on.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, you can handle yourself.
Don La Greca
I didn't say I can't. But I don't want to deal with that.
Peter Rosenberg
But you're dealing with this.
Don La Greca
Well, that's what I said. At least I was canceling it.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, just like, you know, the minute.
Don La Greca
You'Re something, you're like, oh, my God, like, now I'm stuck. Now I'm in. And there's no someone like me ain't winning that battle. Even when I win, I don't win.
Alan Hahn
No, it's not your way. That's not your way. But by the way, that is insane. I just want you to know that is diabolical and insane behavior. Speakerphone like that on a train means.
Don La Greca
On Max, by the way. Max.
Alan Hahn
No, it means you are a. Like, I will do this. Like, there could be a moment, like, let's say I am walking into this building and I was walking down the street on my phone. Occasionally, because of whatever the setup is, I might have my phone on speakerphone near my face. And when I get in this building, it may still be, like, mildly on speakerphone.
Don La Greca
Okay?
Alan Hahn
But like, A, it's not loud. B, it's not about anything private. And C, I'm wrapping up. You know what I mean? The idea of, like, you're just gonna choose to have a full bore screaming speaker conversation.
Don La Greca
Oh, and she all with her friend all in. Like, it was loud, it was aggressive, it was obnoxious. It was all the things that I'm like, I'm really not interested in hearing about this part of your life. And then the best part, though, was how everything changed when it was the employer that applied for. And suddenly it's. But still talking out loud.
Alan Hahn
Just the only thing more insane.
Don La Greca
I'm tired of those. And it's not the first time, it certainly won't be the last time. And I know everybody can relate to this.
Alan Hahn
The only more insane, diabolical behavior I've seen recently is when I was talking about this today on my Cheap Heat podcast. And if you're looking For a great WrestleMania preview show, we did an episode today. Of course, getting ready for WrestleMania this weekend. Dipperstein. When I took last time I was in Las Vegas with Dipperstein, who's my manager, I took him to Omelette House, which is Natalie put me onto it. It's now my favorite breakfast spot. Maybe in the world, but certainly in Las Vegas. Dipperstein's a little foofy la. I mean, even though he grew up a very, like, very middle class Pennsylvania guy, suburbs of Philadelphia, he's now a kind of foofy Hollywood type. I take him to Omelette House. Guys, he already knows going into this. He only eats eggs and anything egg related, as he describes it to the waiter, quote, squawking. He wants it completely soft, scrambled, as soft as humanly possible. If he sees any black on his omelette from it being cooked, he's sending it back. Everyone, follow me. That's how he wants his omelette, that softness scramble. And this guy decides to order at the omelet house, where you can get any omelette you've ever dreamed of. He decides to order a lobster omelette. You went borderline runny eggs with chunks of lobster. And you thought, I mean, it's almost gag inducing.
Don La Greca
I just did.
Alan Hahn
And then he didn't like it. And I'm like, shocking. I, I, what did I get? I got, you know, sausage and peppers or something. I got a logical, normal thing to get. Of course, these are the diabolical behaviors you have to look out for at that moment.
Don La Greca
At least that one he's doing in his own pro. Like, right.
Alan Hahn
It's not the same.
Don La Greca
I'm not two tables over going, what are we? Like, I don't need to hear this conversation.
Peter Rosenberg
How could people be that tone deaf?
Don La Greca
You want to be. I think it's because you want to be.
Peter Rosenberg
You know, because I would. The twins do it because they're seven and they don't know anybody. I'm trying to give you inside voice, you know, personal space. But she didn't sound like she was seven.
Don La Greca
No, not seven.
Peter Rosenberg
Maybe mentally, potentially.
Don La Greca
That worked out. It felt good, by the way. Almost like cathartic.
Alan Hahn
I want to hear from the people.
Don La Greca
We got people. 800-919-3776. The calls are rolling in with different types of. That was.
Alan Hahn
By the way, this is why you need a video. I'm telling everybody. Oh, listen, we need video. Why do you need video?
Peter Rosenberg
Get these damn mics fixed. Video. I would have been fired because there was something I was doing.
Alan Hahn
I have some on video, so we're gonna. Don't you worry about that.
Don La Greca
Don't you worry. All right, so we'll be careful.
Peter Rosenberg
That's my life.
Alan Hahn
No, no, I got you.
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Alan Hahn
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
Don La Greca
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Alan Hahn
Well, listen, we. We told you what we couldn't take. Things were said. In fact, here are Some of them. You know what the hard part is for me, Alan? I thought I had a hell of a set it off like I set the thing off.
Don La Greca
Well, you stuck to sports and a.
Peter Rosenberg
Relatable take, and I was fine with my little coffee take, until all of a sudden, Alan pointed the microphone closer to my face and I was just trying to help. I know, but I'm just. Get these damn mic fixed. Get me a workable mic. It's on you. Well, they were looking at me.
Don La Greca
I love that you laugh at yourself after you hear yourself and you realize because in the moment, you're not laughing.
Peter Rosenberg
Problem is, is that I'm engaging no one until all of a sudden, I was engaging someone. And I look through the window here at the gorgeous studios here at Good Karma. They really have done a great job.
Don La Greca
Here we go. Now he's just laying on. There you go.
Peter Rosenberg
Hamstrings.
Don La Greca
More sugar.
Peter Rosenberg
Hamstrings are strong now, but all of a sudden, there are people looking at the window like, you know, I'm the ape throwing my feces. And so now I'm engaged. I made eye contact with poor Troy.
Alan Hahn
Oh, no. We heard what happened.
Peter Rosenberg
Talking around mics. Omnidirectional. Everybody can hear me except you now. It's your fault, Troy. It's your fault.
Don La Greca
Troy just caught a stray, and all he was doing was to see if you were all right.
Peter Rosenberg
Now, what you should have done when you were doing the Knicks is look at Jacob. Jacob's our resident Nick fan. You can be looking, right?
Don La Greca
I was pointing at Jake. I was letting him know he's talking about you, Jake. But, Jake, you gonna say anything for yourself?
Peter Rosenberg
How do you feel? How do you feel about being scolded like that?
Don La Greca
Well, I can't stand it for most Knicks fans because I do find them slightly annoying. The Julius Randle thing was a thing that was overblown, and I was a.
Alan Hahn
Which. Which Randle thing? There were so many.
Don La Greca
There were a couple. Yeah. They were killing him. That. That they wanted to drive him out of town. I was the guy that actually stuck up for him. 25 and 10 guys.
Alan Hahn
I remember they drove him out of.
Don La Greca
Town to all NBAs.
Alan Hahn
I remember they. They drove him out of town. Then that they started complaining that they drove him out of town. Now we're not. Now we're soft.
Don La Greca
They drove him out of town and then complained about the guy who traded him. And then, I mean, interesting people killing Thibodeau.
Chevy Silverado
Five of the six years he's been here. Like, team has been to the Playoffs.
Don La Greca
I mean, I don't remember six times in my lifetime ahead of Thibodeau, that the Knicks have been in the playoffs. Collectively. This is what I get. Not good enough. This team. Exactly. That's what you get. This team should have won 65 games.
Peter Rosenberg
65 games.
Don La Greca
We heard that.
Alan Hahn
That was the thing. I got a tweet.
Don La Greca
I got a tweet that said that.
Peter Rosenberg
How many teams. Because there's only been, what, two to win? Like north of 72, right?
Don La Greca
1, 170 and 65.
Peter Rosenberg
What are we talking about?
Don La Greca
70? Well, 72 and 73. And the Bulls won 70. So three.
Peter Rosenberg
So three. And how many north of 65 or at 65 or more Russia. That was not me.
Don La Greca
But by the way, that worried me, my precious.
Alan Hahn
That was Don.
Don La Greca
That was me by mistake.
Alan Hahn
So now you hit that now. But I really thought I, I thought I said some things that were worthwhile.
Don La Greca
You did.
Alan Hahn
And then Don went. And now, now all of a sudden.
Peter Rosenberg
Over the last two weeks, you can't hear me. Maybe it's your problem.
Alan Hahn
Well, why do I bother?
Don La Greca
But it was very good. And now everybody else has their, their stuff that they can't take. So let's talk to him. Let's grab some of these. Edgar in Bloomingdale. Edgar.
Field Yates
Hey, what's up, guys? First time caller, long time listener, Edgar.
Don La Greca
On the radio. Listening on the radio.
Peter Rosenberg
Edgar.
Field Yates
Never, never been on the radio.
Don La Greca
No, I mean, you're listening. You're listening to us.
Field Yates
Yeah, I'm listening to you guys on 880. But my radio.
Don La Greca
Love it. Oh, okay. Smart man. He knows.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, waiting.
Field Yates
I did go to the beach bash, though. I'm waiting for the. Done. They should call it the Don Lagreca Beach Bash, by the way.
Alan Hahn
I like that.
Field Yates
I mean, change the name.
Don La Greca
I mean, I don't have to.
Field Yates
All right, let's. Let's get, let's get to. Let's get to the point here. Why is everyone saying Detroit is going to beat the Knicks? What do I fear here? A Cunningham, is he going to, you know, burn us for score 80 points a game? Are the other guys going to do it?
Alan Hahn
I'm going to tell you something right now. Every junior, if you ask, if you ask the average person right now, Cade Cunningham is all of a sudden better than Jalen Brunson. Yes. He's going to smoke your entire team. That's what they're saying.
Field Yates
I mean, I don't think Cat, that guy dirty in is going to control Cat.
Alan Hahn
That's what they say. I hear you.
Peter Rosenberg
I mean, so give me a prediction.
Don La Greca
Prediction I'm going to give you before.
Field Yates
I hang up and I'm going to do. What's his name? A. Shannon Sharp. Cade Cunningham. Richie Cunningham. Randall Cunningham. Nixon six.
Don La Greca
I like it. Well done, Edgar. That's one of. That's one of Sharp's best things that he does.
Alan Hahn
No, wait, what does he do?
Don La Greca
He rhymes it though.
Alan Hahn
But he does it with. But he does it in different.
Don La Greca
He did a Laker thing. It was like a whole. It was a whole Lakers thing. So he'll do. He'll do like ufc, kfc, okc, Lakers in five. Yeah, things like that. Yeah, like it's. It's like. It's like basically saying it doesn't matter if we got it.
Peter Rosenberg
I get it.
Don La Greca
It could be okc. It could be kfc.
Alan Hahn
He got us. You start with okc.
Peter Rosenberg
His podcast is what Club Shay Shay.
Don La Greca
Shay Shay, sure.
Alan Hahn
Well, he has two. And then there's After Dark, the After Dark one.
Peter Rosenberg
The reason I bring up Club Shay Shay.
Don La Greca
Sure.
Alan Hahn
Like you dream about.
Peter Rosenberg
I've never, never listened to it, ever, never watched it. But on my timeline, on Twitter, I keep seeing clips of his interview with Damon Wayans and I'm completely sucked in. It's like one of the greatest interviews I've ever seen. The way he opens up and the stories he tells. Like, terrific job. Did any. Are you seeing any of this?
Alan Hahn
I. The Damon Wayans one. I only saw a clip or two.
Peter Rosenberg
But like every day I. It's like 10 minute chunks where he's talking about it when he got fired from Saturday Night Live and just talking about In Living Color and his relationship with Eddie Murphy. Like incredible stuff. I just by my timeline.
Don La Greca
But he's good at making you feel comfortable enough to where you'll, you know, you'll tell your story. And he's very good at that.
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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary
Episode: Hour 2 - "Can't Take It Tuesday"
Release Date: April 15, 2025
In the "Can't Take It Tuesday" episode of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg podcast, hosts Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into a myriad of sports-related discussions, primarily focusing on the New York Giants' draft strategies, the ongoing NFL quarterback debates, and venturing into the hosts' personal pet peeves in the sports realm. The episode seamlessly intertwines expert analysis with candid, humorous interactions, making it both informative and entertaining for listeners.
The conversation kicks off with a deep analysis of the New York Giants' recent private workouts with quarterbacks Shador Sanders, Jalen Milroe, and Tyler Shuck. Don La Greca references Field Yates, ESPN's draft expert, highlighting the Giants' intention behind these workouts.
Don La Greca [04:34]:
"Adam Schefter reported that the Giants will have a private workout with Shador Sanders later. It was also reported they were going to have another workout with Jalen Milroe. And was Jackson Dart on that list, too?"
Field Yates [05:46]:
"Looks like the Giants are seriously considering Sanders in the late first round, but they have to weigh the cost in future draft capital."
Peter Rosenberg challenges the notion that the Giants are fully committed to drafting Sanders, suggesting it might be a strategic move to keep options open for potential trades.
Peter Rosenberg [06:30]:
"I think Sanders is going to sink like a stone. If he's available at 34, I'm drafting early in the second round and maybe trade back."
Don La Greca [07:01]:
"Neither does Field Yates. He was on Barton Carlin. He's looking at exactly what you're saying."
Field Yates [07:09]:
"I feel like the Giants might consider Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter at 3 and then potentially move back into the first round for Sanders."
The discussion pivots to potential future drafts, particularly focusing on Arch Manning, drawing parallels with his legendary status in New Orleans. The hosts explore whether New Orleans would be receptive to drafting Manning and how his legacy might influence team decisions.
Peter Rosenberg [15:24]:
"Do you think that there's still a Manning thing in New Orleans? I mean, Archie was a good quarterback on bad teams."
Alan Hahn [15:37]:
"The Manning brothers grew up here. Peyton went to Ole Miss and Eli to Tennessee, but their family roots are strong in New Orleans."
Field Yates [19:09]:
"I think it would absolutely be a thing here. The whole Manning family lives here, and fans would love to see Arch Manning as the quarterback."
In the "Can't Take It Tuesday" segment, Alan Hahn expresses his frustration with the New York Knicks' fan base despite their loyalty and knowledge of the game. He laments over the continuous criticism targeting Head Coach Tom Thibodeau, despite the team's improved performance.
Alan Hahn [26:57]:
"For me, it's fans in this town. The Knicks fan base, to me, is loyal, but oh my God, the Thibodeau conversation this year, it's unbearable."
Alan Hahn [28:48]:
"Knicks fans, you are idiots. You are absolute morons."
Don La Greca [29:39]:
"That's a way to start it off. That's a leadoff batter right there."
Peter Rosenberg shares a relatable annoyance about individuals using speakerphone in public places like trains, disrupting the quiet ambiance and forcing others to listen to their conversations.
Peter Rosenberg [29:46]:
"I wanted a cup of coffee... Anthony volunteers and then he won't take my money."
Don La Greca [33:24]:
"I can't take it anymore Tuesday. When you go on the train... someone on speakerphone talking loudly."
Alan Hahn [35:03]:
"You can't just say something, you're trapped in that awkward situation."
Don La Greca narrates an incident where a person on the train conducts a loud and inappropriate speakerphone conversation, forcing him to confront the situation but feeling powerless to act.
Don La Greca [35:28]:
"I sit there. So what do I do? I put my earbuds in instead and crank it up."
Peter Rosenberg [35:55]:
"What could he do?"
Don La Greca [36:06]:
"She's a ticking timer. She can't wait for me to say something."
Caller Edgar voices concerns about Detroit's potential dominance over the Knicks, specifically mentioning Cade Cunningham and predicting an overwhelming performance advantage.
Field Yates [46:09]:
"Why is everyone saying Detroit is going to beat the Knicks? Cade Cunningham is all of a sudden better than Jalen Brunson."
Don La Greca [47:11]:
"I like it. Well done, Edgar. That's one of Sharp's best things that he does."
Peter Rosenberg highlights Sammy "Shay Shay" Sosa's interview with Damon Wayans, praising his interviewing skills and storytelling prowess.
Peter Rosenberg [47:02]:
"Like the Damon Wayans one. It's like one of the greatest interviews I've ever seen."
Alan Hahn [48:35]:
"He's been crushing it in that way. He really has."
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in lighthearted banter, often poking fun at each other. A notable moment occurs when Peter Rosenberg complains about microphone issues, leading to humorous exchanges about audio quality and on-air performance.
Peter Rosenberg [30:16]:
"Get these damn mics fixed. I'm screaming into it and people can't hear me."
Don La Greca [31:25]:
"That's a grand slam home run. That's what that was."
Alan Hahn [31:42]:
"You start with OKC."
As the episode wraps up, the hosts encourage listeners to engage with their "Can't Take It Tuesday" segment by sharing their own pet peeves. They also handle a few final caller interactions, maintaining the episode's engaging and interactive spirit.
Alan Hahn [42:29]:
"Well, listen, we told you what we couldn't take. Things were said."
Don La Greca [43:06]:
"I love that you laugh at yourself after you hear yourself and you realize it wasn't in the moment."
Don La Greca [04:34]:
"Adam Schefter reported that the Giants will have a private workout with Shador Sanders later."
Peter Rosenberg [06:30]:
"I think Sanders is going to sink like a stone."
Alan Hahn [26:57]:
"The Knicks fan base... you are idiots. You are absolute morons."
Don La Greca [35:06]:
"You do have to sit there and listen to this and nobody can do anything about it."
Peter Rosenberg [35:58]:
"Get these damn mics fixed."
Giants' Draft Flexibility: The discussion reveals the Giants' strategic flexibility in the upcoming draft, balancing between committing to a potential franchise quarterback like Shador Sanders and keeping their options open through possible trades.
Legacy and Legacy Decisions: The potential drafting of Arch Manning ties into both legacy considerations and strategic team building, reflecting the complex interplay between star power and team needs.
Fan Dynamics and Team Performance: Alan Hahn's frustrations shed light on the broader issue of fan expectations and reactions, especially in environments with passionate and vocal fan bases like New York.
Public Etiquette in Sports-Focused Environments: Peter Rosenberg's speakerphone rant highlights a common urban annoyance, subtly connecting the behavior back to the sports-centric lives of the hosts and listeners.
Hosts' Chemistry and Humor: The episode exemplifies the chemistry among the hosts, blending serious sports analysis with humorous personal anecdotes and playful ribbing, enhancing listener engagement.
The "Can't Take It Tuesday" episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg delivers a comprehensive blend of in-depth sports analysis, particularly around NFL draft strategies and quarterback prospects, intertwined with entertaining personal complaints from the hosts. The inclusion of listener interactions and the hosts' relatable pet peeves add a layer of connectivity, making the podcast both informative and deeply engaging for its audience.