Hour 2: Carlin v Peter

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast: Hour 2 – Carlin vs. Peter

Release Date: April 17, 2025

In this engaging episode of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg podcast titled "Hour 2: Carlin v Peter," hosts Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg navigate a heated discussion sparked by recent on-air comments and delve deep into the burgeoning rivalry between New York's baseball and basketball stars. The episode, rich with candid conversations, listener interactions, and spirited debates, offers listeners an insightful glimpse into the dynamics of New York sports media and fan culture.

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I. The Spark: Criticism on First Take

The episode kicks off with Chris Carlin expressing his frustration over comments made about Don Hahn during a recent appearance on ESPN’s First Take. The trio discusses how Stephen A. Smith publicly criticized Don, leading to a sense of betrayal and disappointment among the hosts.

Don Hahn [06:38]:

"I've had a lot of people I've considered friends criticizing me on something I thought we shared."

Peter Rosenberg [05:59]:

"Our friendship is not important."

This criticism has not only affected Don but also sparked a broader conversation about loyalty and respect among colleagues in the sports media landscape.

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II. Audience Support and Caller Reactions

The hosts open the lines to listeners, receiving mixed reactions ranging from support for Don Hahn to skepticism about the criticisms. Callers like Mark from Atlanta and Matt from Cherry Hill express their backing, emphasizing the importance of standing by friends in the face of unwarranted criticism.

Caller Mark [11:36]:

"Don't let anybody tear you down, Peter. You're the man."

Don Hahn [12:26]:

"He has, by the way."

These interactions highlight the community aspect of the podcast, where listeners feel a personal connection to the hosts and their professional struggles.

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III. Proposing a Showdown: Carlin vs. Rosenberg

Amidst the tension, a playful yet competitive spirit emerges as the idea of a direct debate between Chris Carlin and Peter Rosenberg takes shape. The hosts entertain the notion of a structured argument to settle their differences, though uncertainty remains about its feasibility and the impact on their friendship.

Don Hahn [21:14]:

"Now? Maybe if we did. Maybe if we did Rutgers football or sandwiches on the Lower East Side, I'd lose."

Peter Rosenberg [21:07]:

"All right, who wants this?"

This proposal underscores the blend of professionalism and camaraderie that defines the podcast’s dynamic.

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IV. Shift to the Back Page: Yankees vs. Mets Rivalry

Transitioning from internal conflicts, the conversation veers into the heart of New York sports rivalries, specifically focusing on Juan Soto of the Mets and Aaron Judge of the Yankees. The hosts dissect recent performances, media portrayals, and fan reactions, emphasizing the intense scrutiny players face.

Peter Rosenberg [26:37]:

"It's Willie, Mickey, and the Duke. We haven't had that. Whose players better? Whose guy is better in this town?"

Chris Carlin [35:05]:

"And that's gonna be a conversation all summer."

Their analysis touches on how media narratives, whether through traditional newspapers or modern social media, shape public perception and fan sentiment.

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V. Media Influence: Traditional vs. Social Media

A significant portion of the episode critiques the role of media in amplifying rivalries and fan disputes. Chris Carlin challenges the relevance of traditional newspaper back pages in the digital age, advocating for focusing on more substantial interactions rather than sensational headlines.

Chris Carlin [27:10]:

"What is this, 1984? The newspapers were something that you got information from because you didn't know what happened the night before."

Peter Rosenberg [30:08]:

"How social media comments. You want that? That's the new back page."

This discussion highlights the evolving landscape of sports media, where immediacy and virality often overshadow in-depth analysis and balanced reporting.

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VI. Listener Engagement and Final Thoughts

As the episode progresses, listeners continue to call in with their perspectives, further enriching the conversation. The hosts reflect on the passionate, albeit sometimes toxic, nature of fan interactions and the responsibility of media personalities in moderating these discussions.

Chris Carlin [35:04]:

"But please do not tell me you're riled up on what was the back page of the Post or the Daily News."

Don Hahn [38:19]:

"But I get your overall point."

The episode concludes with a look ahead to upcoming sports events, promising more debates, analyses, and listener interactions in future episodes.

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Conclusion

"Hour 2: Carlin v Peter" masterfully balances personal grievances with broader sports discourse, showcasing the complex interplay between media personalities and their audience. Through honest dialogue, listener participation, and a keen analysis of sports rivalries, Don, Hahn & Rosenberg deliver a compelling episode that not only addresses internal tensions but also captures the vibrant spirit of New York's sports scene.

Notable Quotes:

• Don Hahn [06:38]: "I've had a lot of people I've considered friends criticizing me on something I thought we shared."
• Peter Rosenberg [05:59]: "Our friendship is not important."
• Chris Carlin [27:10]: "What is this, 1984? The newspapers were something that you got information from because you didn't know what happened the night before."
• Peter Rosenberg [26:37]: "It's Willie, Mickey, and the Duke. We haven't had that. Whose players better? Whose guy is better in this town?"

This episode serves as a testament to the dynamic and often contentious world of sports media, where personal relationships intertwine with professional rivalries, all under the watchful eyes of a passionate listener base.

Transcript

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Chris Carlin]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 Eastern ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

[Don Hahn]

Oh yeah.

[Chris Carlin]

One of the greatest off air conversations we've ever.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was tremendous. A lot, a lot, a lot of A lot.

[Chris Carlin]

I'll tell you what, we're gonna actually debate bringing it up in enn, but we're gonna have to let you know. Yeah, I think we can make it work. Of course we can.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's.

[Don Hahn]

It's.

[Chris Carlin]

We just have, we just have to get the vernacular really careful. Really careful.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I struggled.

[Chris Carlin]

I'm bad with this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Me too. And Peter already yelled at me once for being like this, so.

[Chris Carlin]

Well, he yelled at me last week for. Yeah, actually he did me a favor. I don't look at it. He's yelling.

[Don Hahn]

This worries me. You know what? I'm gonna go ahead and say we shouldn't do it.

[Chris Carlin]

No worries.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm telling you, Peter, I think I'm in.

[Chris Carlin]

Peter, it's worth it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is why you want enn. It's six.

[Chris Carlin]

It's not even the story. It's where we took it. We fantasized about different ways it wouldn't work.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We definitely started to spitball how it.

[Chris Carlin]

Could happen and it was glorious.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the most God awful idea that we started actually considering. How could you know?

[Chris Carlin]

What if. Just because I want you in on this, Peter, because you, you, you're the lead in ENN and you got two hours to work. It was sent to the group chat the story.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's.

[Chris Carlin]

Start working on it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You could see it. You'll know what we're talking about.

[Chris Carlin]

And then in the meantime don't bring it up. But just so you can start to work on it, don't do it now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't do it now because this might be a good time before we get into our next topic and of course your calls. And we'll continue to talk with you at 800 now 193776. But this might be the right time, Don, to let Peter in on what has been said about him.

[Don Hahn]

I've been nervous about it all day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because we made him wait an hour. I think it's fair.

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We got our topic coming up next, and we'll get to it. So we're not gonna spend a ton of time on this, but just Barton Carlin's show today, as they were on the air, saw you in all your splendor on first take. And while I know I'm celebrating this, love seeing you at Seaport. Love seeing you in the mix. I know.

[Don Hahn]

Maybe the best I've ever looked today, too. Outfit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the way, I was going to tell you, you were very much on point. I was going to say you were. Natalie dressed very natty today. Thank you.

[Chris Carlin]

Natty might have helped them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You. You were, though, a topic of conversation on their show while you were on the screen. And this is what was said.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Peter Rosenberg is on first take today.

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah. It's amazing.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Did Stephen A. Lose a bet?

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah, it's a thing.

[Don Hahn]

Seriously.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Like, what's the thing about this?

[Chris Carlin]

I don't know.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm looking up. I got Peter Rosenberg alongside Wendy, Stephen A. And Molly.

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah. He's breaking down Nico Harris moves.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And is he comparing it to what the Washington commanders are doing?

[Chris Carlin]

He's saying you, too, can become the Washington commanders.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, my God. He's got a suit and tie on and a pair of glasses. We're gonna look all intellectual all of a sudden.

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, my God.

[Chris Carlin]

You know how you see your drunk uncle with a suit on for the first time? Y. Yo. Like, yo. They don't look right on you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Wow. I'm sorry. Normally it's Bart that gets distracted by that, but that threw me off completely. Then I look up, and Peter's on first take with Stephen A. Wow.

[Chris Carlin]

Let's break down the suit. Is that lavender with a red tie?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I don't want to break down his.

[Chris Carlin]

It looks like a political suit.

[Don Hahn]

I don't want to break.

[Stephen A. Smith]

The more I have to look at this, the more I'm just going to be alarmed by the whole thing.

[Chris Carlin]

It looks like a political suit. Yeah. I mean, like, he apologized.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He looks like he's trying to do Meet the Press right now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, absolutely. That's.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That's what it looks.

[Chris Carlin]

I'm really. I'm offended for you. I think they took it too far, and they were completely.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They went 61 seconds on this, and.

[Chris Carlin]

They have no love for you because there's joking around with people. There's joking around with people that you love and respect. And then there's this.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, this is something else. And it Was. You know what's even worse? It was, you know, what made it really hurt badly, besides the fact that. You guys know what's it been six weeks of me putting over Carlin's corner when A corner table whenever I get a chance.

[Chris Carlin]

It was genuine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Point.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, no. Not only that, guys. I reposted on my social media as well. On all. On Twitter and Instagram.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is. This is how they thank you.

[Don Hahn]

And what really hurt right in the. In the middle of the gut was the way he was saying my name at the beginning was like, I sounded like a stranger, didn't I?

[Chris Carlin]

Yep.

[Don Hahn]

Peter Rosenberg's on. Like, you would think that would be one of my enemies. Talking about, like, one of the podcasters who I have beef with. That's what their tone would sound.

[Chris Carlin]

Or you're like. You're like the rival show in town, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did he. Did he do it like. Like in A Few Good Men? Peter Rosenberg, did he do it, like, did it feel that way?

[Don Hahn]

I. You know, I didn't. I don't.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Lieutenant Weinberg. That's. That's, that's.

[Don Hahn]

I don't. I don't. I've never seen A Few Good Men.

[Chris Carlin]

What?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What?

[Don Hahn]

I was at an age where I just didn't.

[Chris Carlin]

Wait.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now I'm siding with Carlin.

[Chris Carlin]

Well, that's good. Let's play that again. I'm not.

[Don Hahn]

So listen, I'm not going to get. I'm not going to say I'm right for not having sex. No.

[Chris Carlin]

But I'm just saying that it's such a, you know, you can't handle. The truth is such a part of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Our scene, is one of the great scenes in cinema.

[Chris Carlin]

And so you were curious to know where that came from. And it's Jack. It's not like it's some yo yo movie, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, no, it's Tom and Jack. It's. Think about it. It's Tom Cruise.

[Chris Carlin]

Right? Like, how are we now in this discussion?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't have to answer that question.

[Chris Carlin]

I'll answer the question.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'll answer the question.

[Chris Carlin]

You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I want the truth.

[Chris Carlin]

You can't handle the truth. Damn.

[Don Hahn]

What a moment more Demi Moore to me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Demi.

[Chris Carlin]

They threw Kevin Bacon in there just for blank space.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because it's. Because it's Kevin Bacon. There's always six degrees.

[Don Hahn]

Kevin Bacon brings us full circle back to Carlin. Okay, good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's bacon. Is that what you did there? Is that what you did? I get it, my man.

[Chris Carlin]

That's how you sweep back, that's outstanding.

[Don Hahn]

But I mean, first of all, first, here's. Here's all the things that are hurtful about it. Number one, you know, it's not my first time on first take. Just in the last month. It's my third time. Right. So just that. Yeah. You didn't pay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was there. I saw you.

[Don Hahn]

Sure.

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Other people have seen it. I've got a lot of people. I've been with the company now, espn, going on close to a decade. I started off doing lots of national stuff. They probably might know that. And then the whole suit conversation. Like, the first time I have a closet full of suits. I have to dress up for WWE all the time. Listen, all of it is just hurtful. And can I tell you what it sounded like? And it really was unbecoming?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Mm.

[Don Hahn]

It sounded like little jelly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Little peanut butter.

[Don Hahn]

And jelly sounded like a little bit of grape Delicious jelly is what it sounded like. And it was. Welch is great. Wow, that hurt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that.

[Don Hahn]

That was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That.

[Don Hahn]

That.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peter, here's an idea. You should do your own foodie, kind of like Instagram Live. And in it, you should sample Welch's grape jelly and explain what jelly's really all about. Just. And then in your own little way.

[Chris Carlin]

Or just do a podcast. Just destroying Carl.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or you could just do that, too.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, we could just do an ENN dedicated to friends you've lost, people you thought you cared for.

[Chris Carlin]

It was.

[Don Hahn]

You know what? It wasn't the making fun of me is one thing. It's the tone around it that really just.

[Chris Carlin]

Oh, there was.

[Don Hahn]

I mean, Bart. Bart wasn't nearly as bad. Bart was ad libbing. He was having fun.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was. Well, he was. He was just piling on.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. He knew the moment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here it is.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Peter Rosenberg is on first take today.

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah, it's amazing.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Did Stephen a lose a bet?

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah, it's a thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. Does Stephen a lose a bet?

[Don Hahn]

I mean, and by the way, real quick, I don't want to, like, give up, you know, any state secrets here. The implication early on is that I would have nothing to offer to this conversation. Have you ever watched First Take? We're not breaking down war across the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

National League, you know, Be careful.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, it's a great show where you'd like about the subjects we're all passionate and knowledgeable about. Like, so the implication of, like, how is Peter qualified? I mean, I literally talk about sports for a living every single day. Afternoon drive in New York. I do a morning drive show. That's top five as well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know how to save him here. Can we save him here? Because this is talking your way off a show. What do you mean?

[Don Hahn]

What do you mean the implication that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I couldn't be on First Take. Do you see the people on first?

[Don Hahn]

No, no, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Please don't do that, Peter.

[Don Hahn]

I didn't. Hold on, Alan, you were a son of a. Trying to say. I didn't say that. Did it sound like I was going.

[Chris Carlin]

I didn't. I didn't say.

[Don Hahn]

That's not what I said. What I'm saying is not about the people there. They have great people on the show. But what I'm saying is, topic wise, they don't do anything that's beyond my scope. Like, we're not. It's. If I was a guest on if. If Buster Only, and I did a hit from like the. The first round of the Major League Baseball playoffs, and I was there breaking down baseball statistics, I would get clowning me for it. Breaking down the NBA playoffs on a national level, that's up my alley.

[Chris Carlin]

That's what I do.

[Don Hahn]

That's who I am.

[Chris Carlin]

Apparently, they don't think so.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, they were shocked.

[Don Hahn]

All I can do. It's been 10 years of this show. And according not only to my haters on Twitter, but to my friends, people I considered friends. All I'm good for is a commander's conversation.

[Chris Carlin]

It's almost like friends, you know, when they would go after Michael. He's got a big head. It's such a lazy take, too, Peter. Like all these. God, he's commanders. I'm really. I feel bad for you. There are jokes and there's fun, and you know what? Bart probably doesn't know you as well, and Bart's a ball player and they go there sometimes. But this is a colleague. This is somebody that you've known before he started working here.

[Don Hahn]

That's right.

[Chris Carlin]

A guy that you have talked up at every possible.

[Don Hahn]

Every moment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I can.

[Chris Carlin]

I'd be done with him.

[Don Hahn]

Where do you stand? You mean this. This should offend you, too. No.

[Chris Carlin]

You're talking to Allen, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Me too.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did I not say that?

[Don Hahn]

Did I not say he was ready to fight? Alan said he was ready to throw.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did I not say, like, this is anchorman level? Like, this is Royal Rumble. Who would we be?

[Chris Carlin]

MTV or ESPN deporte? So, like, who would we be? Are we going to take. You know, I don't know which one we should take.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I know is that we do outnumber them. We probably have to. Because of Bart.

[Chris Carlin]

I didn't love Anchorman 2 as much as Anchorman.

[Don Hahn]

No, but that moment.

[Chris Carlin]

But the fight in Anchorman 2, they went. They went. They went there. It was good. They took it as far as they could. I really appreciated that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Chris Carlin]

Because it was like, what was the extreme sports. Yeah, it was great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Chris Carlin]

They did a terrific job. And I. So I would fight on your team, Peter. And I've known Chris longer, but. No, that can't stand.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, Mark in Atlanta wants to chime in on this. Okay, go ahead, Mark. What do you have to say?

[Caller]

Hey, how's it going, guys? Basically, I called in because I'm listening and I hear Peter. He sounds kind of hurt, you know?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And I think I listen every day, and I've heard him say so, like, way worse things about calling. You call them calorie calling, you know, so I just feel like you're being a little too sensitive. They made fun of me.

[Don Hahn]

I didn't call him calorie.

[Caller]

It's lighthearted. You call, there's a drop. I listen every day. Calorie calling.

[Don Hahn]

No, but that wasn't me, though.

[Chris Carlin]

Wait. But he has picked on Chris of obvious things to go after. I mean, the other station he worked at, what he's saying, but we've never said he's not talented. He doesn't deserve the things that he gets Smart.

[Don Hahn]

He's not capable of doing his job.

[Chris Carlin]

You don't see that going too far.

[Caller]

I mean, they. They were going a little crazy, but I felt like they were just, you know, teasing them.

[Chris Carlin]

Well, that. It sounds to me like you agree with him. And I think you got to be gone.

[Don Hahn]

And now he's gone.

[Chris Carlin]

And now you're gone.

[Don Hahn]

Now you're gone, too. What was his name?

[Peter Rosenberg]

His name was Mark.

[Chris Carlin]

Yo, yo, Mark. If you're not offended for Peter, you agree with Kristen and Bart.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But the only thing I'll say to Peter is if you don't have haters, you ain't popping right. Like, that's all that is.

[Don Hahn]

Well, listen, it's been a big. You know, I've had a good few weeks here. Things are going good. I. I felt really good about today's show. So it's. It's just. Listen, you expect to see hate. You don't expect it to see it from the ones you love. That's. That's the thing that makes it hurt. And listen, I have. I made my jokes at Chris's expense. Sure. And he's made jokes at my expense over the years, too. The question here is, why go this Far. Why, in a moment when your boy is shining, don't you think the normal thing would have been like, yo, look at our boy up on first take.

[Chris Carlin]

Whoa. It's the equivalent of, you know when you say, oh, Don's fat or Don's loud or what? Don. But if they went. Don doing a Ranger game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Chris Carlin]

He doing a Ranger game.

[Don Hahn]

I would be.

[Chris Carlin]

I would be in. Soldier out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Chris Carlin]

Is that Allen and MSG doing the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Chris Carlin]

Doing the Knicks pre game?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that's been said.

[Chris Carlin]

Well, not by a colleague. Not by somebody you considered a friend?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not to my face, no.

[Chris Carlin]

Maybe some like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's all right. Look, man, the check don't bounce, right? It doesn't bounce. Whatever you say about it, the check's still gonna cash in the end. That's all that matters, right? I'm still getting the job. You didn't. I got it.

[Don Hahn]

But what about friendship? What about loyalty?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I would rather know how you really feel. And when the grass is cut, the snakes will show. Right. Feel it. Just feel that way.

[Chris Carlin]

Suffering. Jim wants Carl and on to defend himself. I don't think we should give him that luxury.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why would you do that?

[Don Hahn]

He has, by the way. Why do you think he's going to defend himself? It might only get worse. He hasn't said that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's got three hours to do that.

[Chris Carlin]

He could be listening, calling. He knows the number. Maybe we take him, maybe we wouldn't. I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

But we don't even know how he feels. We haven't even heard Dave.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And East Flatbush also wants to chime in on this.

[Chris Carlin]

Good. Dave. AP Big fan, man.

[Caller]

Always 247 champion, man.

[Chris Carlin]

I love you, man. But the whole thing with Fat Colin. You know something?

[Caller]

He should keep his mouth shut because he knows something I don't.

[Chris Carlin]

I don't have any love for him after he did. But I have a question for you.

[Caller]

Hip hop question.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Chris Carlin]

What's a better album?

[Caller]

The Wu Tang album or the Beastie Boys lifestyle? I'll hang up a little things.

[Chris Carlin]

Got to love the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thanks, Dave.

[Chris Carlin]

Which Beastie Boys was it licensed to?

[Don Hahn]

Ill, I love both albums, but it's. It's not even close. Wu Tang to me as much better. License Ill, though, is hit wise. It's unbelievable. I mean, it's one hit after another. But the. But artistry wise, it's not even close.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I don't. I didn't even think that was one that you could debate, right?

[Don Hahn]

There's not. There's not a lot to debate there, Matt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Cherry Hill also wants to chime in on this. Go ahead, Matt.

[Caller]

Hey, what's going on, guys? Honestly, I just wanted to check in because I'm a big fan of Peter. Listen to him on espn. And I'm a Cheap Heat follower, too. My man's on top of the world right now. It sounds like Carlin's a little jelly, like, so. Don't let anybody tear you down, Peter. You're the man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There you go. Matt had a boy.

[Don Hahn]

That was nice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We got to send Matt at one of those T shirts. By the way, the T shirt that. That T shirt's insane. The one that you were showing off today.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, the Rocky T shirt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, come on.

[Don Hahn]

I know. I'll get you guys one. The Cheap Heat pod with.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hell, yeah. I love that one.

[Don Hahn]

I love. Yeah, it means a lot to us. Listen, I. I appreciate all the love. It's okay. You listen. I learned today someone who I thought was a friend was, in fact, a snake in the grass. It's disappointing, but I'm gonna get up from it. I'm gonna keep moving and.

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah, and just don't let Bart up just because he's Bart. Just because he played.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think Bart was doing anything.

[Don Hahn]

More than ad lib, but Bart's ad lib was hurtful because he goes. Chris goes.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Peter Rosenberg's on first take.

[Don Hahn]

And Barco's amazing. Sarcastically.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I mean, Peter Rosenberg is on first take today.

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah, it's amazing, dude.

[Don Hahn]

Stephen lose a guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what?

[Chris Carlin]

Scott on the radio. Amazing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Chris Carlin]

How do you. How would he feel about that?

[Don Hahn]

How would he feel about that?

[Chris Carlin]

You know, I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

I think you have friends, in effect, you have enemies. Because like Drake once said, I got enemies. Got a lot of enemies.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Mervyn Winfield. Merv.

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, guys? How are you?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Good.

[Caller]

Yeah. Like, he likes to take shots at people behind their back and not when they're, like, able to talk back. Like today I called in, and they like to hang up on people without being able to make your point. I made a point about the Knicks. They were 31 against the Hawks, and look what happened in the playoffs. And they're making it sound like I'm, like, comparing the two teams. What I was trying to say was the regular season doesn't always have the outcome of the playoffs. And with him, like, taking shots like that, it's kind of weak.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you, Merv. By the way, 100% on your side. Rich in North Carolina. Go ahead, Rich.

[Caller]

There was more to it. Bart said that While Peter was using Stephen Smith was using Peter to get a date with Megan Thee Stallion. There was more to it. You didn't play for Peter and you know, I didn't realize Bart transferred to ESPN Detroit lately.

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah, he's been.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, he's always been. No, he's always been a Detroit guy. He's always.

[Caller]

It's over the top. Everybody is sick of listening to Katie Cunningham this and that. You can't go by what happened regularly. Look at Giants in Dallas. Dallas beat Giants twice in that season. Giants turn around, beat him in the playoffs and went on with the Super Bowl.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, I mean this is. He's got all week way over the top. Well, that's good. But Rich, here's the beauty of of all this stuff is he's got all week and he's got. He's sticking his chest out. Look, the Pistons haven't been good since he was a player in the NFL, right?

[Caller]

That's how long we suffered.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, they were. They just won back to back 50 win seasons. Let's not compare the Knicks to the Pistons. The point is, is he's really enjoying this because he hasn't had any reason to enjoy the Pistons for a very long time. So he's all in. He's dialed in. He loves it and he's gonna stick out his chest. If this doesn't go well, I imagine all you guys are gonna be calling him and making him eat crow.

[Caller]

Oh yeah, we will be. Trust me. Well, Peter, we got your back, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Attaboy, Rich.

[Don Hahn]

I appreciate. You know what? I appreciate you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now let's.

[Don Hahn]

I felt it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's take one more on this because you know who needs to sound off on this? Griffin in Connecticut.

[Don Hahn]

Griffin in Connecticut.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's up Griffin?

[Griffin]

Hey guys.

[Don Hahn]

Hey, Griff.

[Griffin]

First off Alan, that the Chicago bullpen age very well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not well at all.

[Don Hahn]

Not. Not great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was a bad look by. They couldn't make a three. Oh my God. Anyways, we'll get.

[Griffin]

Yeah, we'll get to the Peter thing. Peter. So apparently what Carlin is trying to let us know is all what you can do is talk about Redskin football. Well then I'm wondering how does the Michael K. Show last so long with all three of you together? If all what you can do is Redskin football. How's this so far? Pretty good. So maybe he knows more than just Redskins football. He knows a lot about the NBA. And I watch a little bit of clip when I'm at lunch at work and you guys start off talking about the Mavericks in The in the Grizzlies and who would be give a bigger tougher matchup for the Thunder. And that's what you basically did. You did not do anything. Football at all. So what's he talking about? It was not one thing about football at all. It was that and WrestleMania.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, it's a good point. Yeah.

[Chris Carlin]

Listen, it's not what you want.

[Don Hahn]

Griffin, I appreciate you the best. Here's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He had his.

[Don Hahn]

Gotta make you feel good. Yeah, no. Getting the support from the family is fantastic. And I'll say this. If Chris wanted to go at me because I was so ill. Ill prepared. Maybe the wrong word. But I was such a bad choice for the program him. I'd like for him to go back and watch the show on demand or go on YouTube and watch the clips that are up. Tell me where I did not make a salient and cohesive point. Furthermore, how about this? There was not a subject I covered on the show today that Chris Carlin could out talk me on. Not one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, wait a minute. This sounds like a throwdown.

[Don Hahn]

I'd out argue him and be more informed on every single subject I discussed today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, who wants this?

[Don Hahn]

Now? Maybe if we did. Maybe if we did Rutgers football or sandwiches on the Lower east side, I'd lose. But we didn't do that today. We did basketball. And guess what? I dominated.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I feel like I want to. I feel like I need to be the moderator for this. Although this Rosenberg versus Carlin. Three topics that you discussed on that show and you guys have at it.

[Don Hahn]

But here's the thing. Like if you give Chris a week to prepare, he's a smart and confident guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, so blind study. Three topics. Neither one of you know what they're going to be. And we do it for one segment.

[Don Hahn]

I'd consider it. I'd consider it. But at the same time, I don't know if I feel like playing games with someone who clearly has decided our friendship is not important. Don. You know what I'm saying?

[Chris Carlin]

I hear you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, but there was that.

[Chris Carlin]

It still could be fun.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But again, wanted to make sure you heard it. Wanted to make sure that the people had your back. And you heard that as well, Peter. That was very important. You know what?

[Don Hahn]

I appreciate this guys very much.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, well, let's get to the back page. By the way, the rivalry talk about stars versus stars. Exactly what I told you would be unfolding is unfolding in New York. And don't think this is going away. This is gonna be all summer, baby. And it's exactly what we need and you love it. Donnie's favorite I can't wait to talk about this. That'll be coming up.

[Don Hahn]

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[Chris Carlin]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcast.

[Don Hahn]

Is it a red man's birthday? Jacob? Oh boy. Happy Birthday Reggie Noble. Great guy. Love Red Man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Where's he at now?

[Don Hahn]

Age wise, my guess is red man 54, I'd say. Yeah.

[Chris Carlin]

52.

[Don Hahn]

How about 52? 52. What do you think?

[Chris Carlin]

What is it?

[Don Hahn]

Jacob?

[Peter Rosenberg]

55. Damn.

[Don Hahn]

55.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. I was right there.

[Chris Carlin]

See, I was double nickel.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do I win? Because I was closer without going over. That's how that works.

[Chris Carlin]

Yep, that's how it works.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Chris Carlin]

I don't know what you get.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nothing.

[Don Hahn]

A lot of love, a lot of respect.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'll take the love. I'll take the respect. I'LL also take what's happening right now, guys in the tabloids and I know you guys like were disgusted with me on Monday and a lot of people thought I was trolling and trying, but I'm telling you, just the instincts were there. Michael K. And I talked about this on the side, about how we both saw this and it's gonna happen. And it's happening now. You see the two back pages today on the two tablets. The Daily News and the New York Post. Of course you did, because I put in the group chat right away in the morning because it was glorious. So as Soto went, was it 0 for 5 with three strikeouts?

[Chris Carlin]

That's right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. Yesterday. And then of course, Aaron Judge had himself a night and the Yankees got a sweep. So here's the Daily News back page. The tale of two city slickers. Judge goes deep, pushes average to.409 to win over KC as 05. Soto K's three times in 10 inning loss to Minnesota. Picture of Judge. Picture of Soto. The New York Post. What Soto said. Quote, best hitter in baseball. End quote. Lifts Yanks with late home run ups average to crazy four oh nine. Those comments are going to live as long as the season goes. And it's not a bad thing. This is. This is Willie, Mickey and the Duke. We haven't had that. Whose players better? Whose guy is better in this town? Like this?

[Chris Carlin]

I don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's awesome and you should want it. Any Met fan mad right now? You're crazy. You love this because so is going to have his run and Judge is going to go through his slump. And this is what the tabloids want. This is what the beat writers want. But this is what you want as a fan. This is fun. Buy into it.

[Chris Carlin]

What I take exception to everything you're saying is correct. But what year is it, man? Like, dude, so you're getting riled up on the back page of a newspaper. What is this, 1984? The newspapers were something that you got information from because you didn't know what happened the night before. We know all the games are on television. I can go to a computer and find out stats. If you're still going to the newspaper to find out what Soto did yesterday, you're not a fan or you stumbled into a time machine and it's 1928.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not going to the paper to find that out.

[Chris Carlin]

No, but the fact that it's the Pulse. But that's not the Pulse.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it is.

[Chris Carlin]

That's the thing. I take exception to the Pulse. The back pages of the newspapers is not the pulse. That Pulse died 20 years ago. And I'm not talking about the beat guys. They are the lifeblood of sports.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay?

[Chris Carlin]

You're talking about the stupid headlines on the back page of a newspaper. But that's your taste, moron.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tangible. I can hold it up.

[Chris Carlin]

I can put in your face. We hold up the newspaper again. When are we doing the radio? Where is there a new. I want to know, since I yelled at everybody at Good Karma yesterday, can bring me a newspaper. Somebody on this whole floor. It's not 5 o'clock yet. Nobody went home. Everybody on this somebody here within the next minute. Bring me a newspaper. I'll wait. Do you know I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you know you said I'm in.

[Chris Carlin]

Downtown Newark, New Jersey, just outside the Rock. Okay, there's a quick story. I don't know if I ever told this bit. Peter might have heard it. I'm doing the commercial with Carl Banks last September for the Black Ice apparel for starter. So we went to the Rock at the Devil's practice facility. We went across. Across the way. There was a cafe and if anybody saw the commercial, it's me with a newspaper drinking coffee and Carl Banks calls to ask me to do the commercial. It's in the commercial. It's pretty cool. They sent somebody out to get me a newspaper. A half hour later they came back, say, can't find it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, come on.

[Chris Carlin]

Couldn't find the newspaper. So can we stop with the whole back page? That's what I'm paying attention to, everything you're saying. It would take me five minutes to walk out of the building and get a newspaper. I'm just telling you the back pages of the paper mean nothing to me. And plus. But they're all just trying to stir it. But I'm upset because he went over five with three strikeouts. I'm also not a mental patient that's going to throw Soto away on April 17 like some met fans are and some Yankee fans going, oh, you know, he's regretting going there. Oh boy, did they. The Mets made a mistake signing him. They've played 18 games. Stop yourself. Don't be a moron, okay? Please stop being morons. But please do not tell me you're riled up on what was the back page of the Post of the Daily News. What is this, like old timey radio? What are we doing, Peter? Am I gonna go home and play? Well, I will. I'll play NHL 94 because I'm a sick person, but I'm gonna go home and I'm gonna watch the game in hd, not on a black and white television or listening to it on the transistor radio.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think you're getting the point.

[Don Hahn]

Stop.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, you're not missing the point.

[Chris Carlin]

You're not getting the point. Stop with the back pages. Give me another analogy. Give me something else. All right. The back pages of the paper.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How social media comments. You want that? That's the new back page. What do fans say? Lunatic fans who are doing videos about how I wish we could give him back. Ty Butler sent me this guy, a Met fan who did a video of himself.

[Chris Carlin]

That's what we do today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he said, I wish we could give him back.

[Chris Carlin]

And I got Yankee fans. Tell me on social media, you could see in his face he regrets. These people are all morons. Stop it. It's early.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you know what's good about it?

[Chris Carlin]

This is fun.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is the back and forth that we never have had in this union alone.

[Chris Carlin]

By your nose, it's fun. A bunch of yo, yo that buy into this stuff. I'm not saying not to be mad, but if you're going to be screaming into the night, or better yet, booing Juan Soto tonight, which I know is going to come, that's going to be a topic tomorrow, Peter. Mark my words. But the thing I. Here's the other thing I take exception to, because we were both meeting at around the same time at Penn Station. I kept my car at the Garden because I got the Rangers tonight. And you take the train in where we are in Soho, that we were going to be at Penn Station around the same time, Peter. So me and Alan broke bread, we went to Caboose, had ourselves a nice lunch.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Awesome.

[Chris Carlin]

All right. So I had to wait a little bit. So I'm in the car listening to the Open to the Case show. Then he's ripping Met fans play. We've got sound of him ripping Met fans for their reaction to Soto.

[Stephen A. Smith]

To the Met fans who actually have the utter audacity to be dissing Juan Soto after 18 games. You don't deserve good things. I'm not saying everybody, but I'm hearing it on social media. I'm hearing it on talk radio. I mean, what is wrong with people? This is one of the greatest hitters that you will ever see. He is, in fact, generational. And because he's gotten off to a bad start, and it's a bad start, and I'm not going to put lipstick on a pig and you're ready to jump him and you're ready to say that he's overpaid, that he's overrated. I don't think that he regrets going to the Mets because Aaron Judge isn't hitting behind him. He's going to regret going to the Mets if you. You people keep it up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He went.

[Chris Carlin]

You people, Peter. All the years we work with Michael, how dare he go after Met fans when. How much airtime did we spend? Why are they booing Aaron A Rod? Why are they killing Judge for not winning a championship? Why can't they appreciate him hitting 63 home runs? Win me a championship? Booing Jeter, Booing Mariano Rivera? All fans are morons. Not just Met fans or Yankee fans. I mean, the fact he's ripping Met fans. They haven't even booed Soto yet. The game's not until later. But talk about overreaction. They don't overreact and kill Judge for not winning a championship. They didn't kill Giambi when he was here until. Until he started to hit. Kill Tito. They booed Tito because he wasn't dom Mattingly. Remember 95? You remember 96? Mattingly raked in that series against Seattle. And they went in a different direction and Tito got off to a slow start. What did they do? They boot him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They eviscerated him. That was the home run.

[Chris Carlin]

Alex Rodriguez winning MVP after mvp, not appreciating a second of it because he didn't win a championship. So stop yourself, Michael. You should know better. That's how fans are. All fans are that way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think he was just calling out Met fans because this is related to Met fans. I don't think this was just to Met fans, but I'm just surprised.

[Chris Carlin]

That's what fans do. But it's the silent minority booing him. Well, they actually put out social media posts. All of a sudden, social media is the lifeblood of what we're supposed to be doing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not back pages. What is it then?

[Chris Carlin]

How do we take the temperature of a fan now? How they react to the game against St. Louis? But it's just saying you get a select few people that are ripping Juan Soto. How do you have any other opinion than the guys are dope? If you're screaming into the night and booing Juan Soto and it's April 17th, honestly, how could you give any time of day to a fan, a Yankee fan, that's gonna say, well, we obviously won. We're better out without Soto. He's a bum. I'm getting tweets from people. Look at his batting average. It's a bust. It's a joke. The Mets made a mistake. How would you, in any walk of life, look at somebody that said that and even give it the time of day? If this is June, July, August, of course, we've got to analyze it. Something's wrong. But 18 games into a season and some yo yo on social media is going to rip Soto or rip the Mets or rip. And you're going to take it seriously. You're going to take the back page of a newspaper. They'll do anything to get the lousy $1.15 or whatever it cost to buy the PA. They'll put boobs on there if they think it's going to sell a newspaper. All of a sudden that has Creedon, don't you see what's happening here? These are yo yo people. You don't pay attention to these people. These are infants. And all of a sudden we give them a say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is what makes it fun.

[Chris Carlin]

No, it didn't. No, it's not what I'm saying. I don't. I don't. You tell me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The argument of my guy.

[Chris Carlin]

Wait, no, it's Yankees and Mets guy right now going at it. Two morons in a pillow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Answer the question. When was the last time we. I've heard the stories from my grandparents, from my mother, about the Willie, Mickey and the Duke, and everybody had their. They staked their claim, they plant their flag. That's my guy. He's the best. He's the best in the city. That's what you. It was fun then.

[Chris Carlin]

Oh, but this isn't fun.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We never.

[Chris Carlin]

We haven't had that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You've got Soto, you've got Judge. They're not teammates. They're now against each other. They are two stars in the city. That is who's better? And that's gonna be a conversation all summer. And I just said this judge right now is the upper hand. It doesn't mean he's always gonna have it. But here's the thing. And when the Mets fans get their chance, they're gonna. They're gonna scream when. When Soto goes on his hot run.

[Chris Carlin]

I believe you're creating a false narrative, but, yeah, that what you're explaining is fun. What you're describing is fun. Hey. Feeling like, hey, look, he judged off to a great start. That's called what's going on with Soto. But these people making declarations saying, oh, he obviously regrets going here. See what happens. He's a bomb. Boom. Like going to that extreme. First of all, it's no Debate. Judge is better. All right, Judge was better last year. Judge is a better player. So it's not even that he's not a fun debate, but the debate of that. Now we're going to make a declaration 18 games into the season that Soto made a mistake, the Mets made a mistake, and that the Yankees are so much better that they didn't want Juan Soto. How can you formulate that opinion 18 games in? If you want to have fun, have a conversation, but if you're going to hang on the rim as if the season's over when we've played 18 of 162, that's what fans do. No, fans have fun back and forth. But the toxicity of it so early and the fact that we're going to debate him being booed, and he probably will be booed because again, there's a certain percentage of morons in every fan base.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't boo him, Peter Muddle.

[Chris Carlin]

It's fun when it's a healthy. This isn't health. This is just stupid.

[Don Hahn]

Well, I think both things can be true. I don't agree with Alan saying that it's the pulse. That part I think is a misspeak. But I will say I do agree with Alan that over time the idea of clocking them against each other could be a lot of fun. But that to me is almost a separate conversation. But it all coming back to this original thing as if Soto committed some huge sin a few days ago when really Allen's been having a lot of fun trolling. He acknowledged it's basically a completely fabricated and kind of made up story.

[Chris Carlin]

And also from this standpoint, do I care who has better stats? I care about not even who has a better record. Do I. I'm not battling the Yankees right now. I'll battle the Yankees if they face each other in the World Series. I'll battle the Yankees when they have the interleague play. But right now I'm concerned about the Braves, the Marlins, the Nationals and the Phillies. Both teams are 11 and 7. Like, isn't that ultimately why we wanted to bring. I didn't bring Juan Soto here to stick it to the Yankees. I didn't bring Juan Soto here to be better than an Aaron Judge. I brought Juan Soto here to win games. Like so the whole idea that I gotta hang on the rim based on their personal stats. The only thing that matters to me is the record. And I can't. And you can't say anything. 11 and 7, that's it. That's all there is. There's What? How many? You know how I am at math beaters. What are we looking at? 144 games left in the season and we're making declarative statements right now. They're both 11 and 7, so they're tied. So what's the fight? So let Judge hit a billion home runs and let Soto strike at every single time. If they've got the same record, what does it matter? Does it matter?

[Don Hahn]

Well, see that, that. Let's get more into that.

[Chris Carlin]

Am I a solo fan or a Met fan?

[Don Hahn]

I hear you, but there is still some fun to be had about your two best players battling. And if one crushes and the other one stinks, there's something to be said there. But I get your overall point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's hear from the people.

[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don Hahn]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. I went out to our offices just to talk to all the people and say, all right, anybody you know who got a paper today? Let me see it. No one would give me a paper. They are too. They love it too much. I'm not giving this up. That's how much the paper meant to them. No.

[Chris Carlin]

Well, what he's trying to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They all had newspapers.

[Chris Carlin]

Peter, he found no newspapers, but two $2 bills. Peter's not there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The rarity that you're trying to concede there. Right, I understand.

[Chris Carlin]

Thank you for.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, Game time is brought to you by Tully Mardu Irish Whiskey. Because Don, when it's game time, Mets are home facing the Cardinals of St. Louis. Coverage immediately following us right here on 880 ESPN at 6:30pm that's right, we're done at 6:30 today. Mets baseball begins then.

[Chris Carlin]

That's right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yankees open a series with the Rays in Tampa. Isn't that gonna be weird?

[Chris Carlin]

Very weird.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Playing at George Steinbrenner Stadium.

[Chris Carlin]

But being the visitors, you won't, you won't see that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

705 is the first pitch there. And the Rangers the season finale against the Lightning tonight. Don Legreco will have your Pre game at 6:30 on 10:50am A little bit of like, you feel a little something here. Like just that that's sort of the end of a season. I got a sadness.

[Chris Carlin]

I always feel it because it's, you know, it's, it's such a part of my life for such a long time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Carlin]

But it's the distraction away from how disappointing the season has been and how meaningless the game is for the standings. It is Sam Rosen's last game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Chris Carlin]

And you know, to go over there and I'm assuming it's gonna be very difficult to get to him tonight because I'm sure it's gonna be a mob scene. There's gonna be a lot of things going on and I'm sure I will see him next year because it's the 100th anniversary. I'm sure he'll bring him around.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you get your picture with him though? Like is at some point, like towards the end, did you think to yourself, let me get the picture with him now? Because it's going to be crazy.

[Chris Carlin]

I tried to get a picture with him and JD when they did that, but there was like a line of people and he made eye contact with me. But I had to go run through the post game. And it was really cool that during one of the breaks he then came to me, come on and said, you know, sorry, it's like. But, you know, J.D. had already left. But I thought it was really nice that he came into. Sorry. But like everybody was. Everybody and their mothers coming in there to get a picture with him. And I'm sure tonight's gonna be the same. First of all, he's always like that, that like during, during the regular season there's always like a line of people to go in and say, hello, fans and it's, it's pretty special. So I don't know how crazy it's going to be, but hopefully I do, you know, get a moment to just get a picture. I'd love to get a picture of everybody, the radio and the TV together.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That'd be kind of cool.

[Chris Carlin]

The last. Because we didn't get a chance to do it last year because they, they lost on the road. I was back at the studio the last time was when they. The Devils beat him in game seven. We were all together. Yeah. That's the only thing that kind of makes tonight, like special to see that. But I don't know if I'm even gonna be able to get to him. It's so weird, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's gonna be different. You won't really feel it till next year, obviously. Right. And look, we're. We're both ecstatic for Kenny. Kenny Albert.

[Chris Carlin]

Oh, well deserved.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like Kenny. People that don't know this Kenny, when he was a little kid. Now his father is obviously like a legend, right? You would think, oh, easy, Nepo. Like just get him a job and, and push him right into the business. Kenny was doing Ranger games, play by play as a 10 year old on a tape deck in his room. This is his dream job. But it's not like a dream job where he was pushed into it. Kenny was also driving a banged up car when he called games for a minor league hockey team. Maryland, I think it was. Right. The Skipjacks or something.

[Chris Carlin]

Baltimore Skipjacks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was in Baltimore. Right.

[Chris Carlin]

That's where he roomed with Barry Trot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. He would. But he was doing this, picking up player. Random players who got traded for in his car, like doing all these random.

[Chris Carlin]

Like you would think he paid his dues.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're the Albert. Your last name's Albert. You shouldn't have to do this stuff. But he did. So this is such a great story that I'm really, really happy for Kenny. Albert. It's just.

[Don Hahn]

It's a stupid question. Stupid question. Don, how long has Sam been done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Doing other stuff like NFL and the other things?

[Chris Carlin]

It's been a few years. Yeah, it's been a. It's been a while. Maybe. Maybe 10 in. Time flies so quick. Yeah, it's been a while since he's done five.

[Don Hahn]

His. His voice is underrated. Synonymous with Sunday football, by the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's.

[Don Hahn]

He had a really good. You know, obviously I don't have the relationship with Sam as the Rangers announcer. I have a relationship with him as a, as a national football announcer. He was, he was up there in terms of like really the voices that I associated with football as well. Man, he was so good at that too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Boxing.

[Chris Carlin]

Boxing, yeah, boxing for a while too. I think Peter result might have been.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Off when we had him on.

[Chris Carlin]

When we had him on.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I was.

[Chris Carlin]

He talked about being the PA guy for the Cosmos and that's where the power.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love that story.

[Chris Carlin]

Yeah, it's no, he's, he's any. And the thing is the. The enthusiasm and all, it's just strange, man. Like even with Sterling gone, there's just something different, man. Just comfort food. Right. Just to know that I turn on a Ranger game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the voice, the voices of generation and it's the next generation who have their voices and the different people that they associate it with. That's game time. Brought to you by Tullamore Du. The original triple distilled, triple blended, triple cast matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tullamore Dew or try the new Tullamore Dew honey. During today's action glasses up to enjoying Tullamore Du responsibly. Your calls again. The Mets and Yankees and the rivalry that is building up here, which is awesome whether you care about the back pages or not. And then there's also Aaron Rodgers versus the jets. What he had to say about how he was treated on the way out. More to come in the 5:00 hour.

[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

The Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.