Hour 2: Carr to Jets? & Fraud Alert Friday

Summary

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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 2: Carr to Jets? & Fraud Alert Friday

ESPN New York Podcast
Date: February 13, 2026
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg (Dave Rothenberg filling in)

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Episode Overview

This episode tackles two main themes: the persistent saga of the New York Jets’ hunt for a quarterback—this time around rumors of Derek Carr coming out of retirement and considering the Jets—and the always-entertaining interactive segment, “Fraud Alert Friday,” where listeners submit their potential sports fandom transgressions for judgment. True to form, the show features personal banter, hot takes, memorable rants, and sharp, often hilarious listener engagement.

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Key Discussions and Insights

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Segment 1: The Jets’ Quarterback Dilemma (00:50–18:43)

Jets Need a Quarterback—Again

• The Jets' ongoing quarterback problems are dissected, with speculation focusing on possible arrivals, including Kirk Cousins, Malik Willis, Kyler Murray, and Derek Carr.
• Dave: “Because the Jets have proven when you don’t [have a QB] then you’re not winning very many games.” (02:06)
• The hosts discuss tanking strategies, the risks of aiming for 2027’s draft class, and the reality of having to actually play (and try to win) games this year.

Derek Carr Rumors: Would He Want the Jets?

• Carr’s appearance on the “Homegrown” podcast—where he expressed affection for Jets head coach Aaron Glenn and appreciation for Jets fans’ charity donations—is played and analyzed.
• Don: “Anyone wanting to be a Jet is worth note now.” (03:05)
• Carr’s “two conditions” to come out of retirement: being healthy, and wanting a chance to win a Super Bowl.
  • Don: “That’s two pretty good things.” (04:40)
  • Dave and Don note the Jets fail the Super Bowl contending standard.
• Carr’s options feel limited:
  • He could perhaps serve as a backup for a contender (Seattle, New England, Buffalo), but “what team is he going to take over that is going to be sniffing a Super Bowl anytime soon? Who? Nobody.” (05:43)

Evaluating QB Alternatives: Carr, Willis, Murray, Cousins

• The hosts rank their top options:
  • Don: “Malik Willis, to me, is the most appealing option. And then I would say Derek Carr.” (07:17)
• Dave breaks down Carr’s stats: at age 35, if healthy, he’s a “3,500 yard, 22 touchdowns, 10 picks” kind of quarterback. Good but not transformative.
  • “Car is gonna be your right now, Cousins is gonna be your right now until you figure it out. But Murray, maybe he writes himself…you feel that way about Willis.” (09:15)
• They agree the Jets are caught in a classic dilemma: get a bridge QB and miss out on a top draft pick, or tank and potentially “pull an Arch Manning” if he doesn’t want to play for the Jets.
• Don on the state of the franchise: “It is a complete, complete crapshoot again going into this year…just assume they will be one of the worst teams in the league.” (12:09)

Technicalities: Carr’s Contract; Willis' Free Agency

• Listener clarification: Carr has a year left with the Saints, Jets would need to acquire his rights.
• Willis’s contract status is sorted out: he's an upcoming free agent, making him an attractive, if risky, target.

Why Willis Is Tempting

• Don and Dave like Willis for upside, affordability, and that he’s “an extremely low mileage” QB with something to prove.
  • Don: “It’s the sexiest option out there for them.” (17:14)
• For both, Malik Willis is more appealing than trusting the draft or pinning hopes on a reluctant star coming out of retirement.

Cautionary Tale: Tanking for Arch Manning

• They emphasize the risk that even with the worst record, the star college QB might not want to play for the Jets at all.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Dave (on the Jets’ perpetual hunt): “It’s such a pain in the ass with this Jet team. I swear to God, there’s nothing to do. There’s no answer.” (11:02)
• Don: “Every year that passes, they’re not even any closer to the answer.” (11:08)
• On Carr’s love for fans: “He loves Jet fans because of all the money they donated to the [Valley Children’s] charity…Not so much, I’m trying to get on their good side.” (04:04)
• On tanking: “Go 0–17. Then Arch Manning says, ‘No thanks, I don’t want to be drafted by you.’” (11:00)

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Segment 2: Advice, Banter & Listener Interaction (19:41–22:59)

Listener Calls In for Life (and Dating) Advice

• A caller sings happy birthday to Don and then asks, at 33, “How do I find love?” (19:43)
• Dave's advice: “Put yourself out there…they’re not falling in your lap.”
• Don pushes back against the “just hit on women” approach, noting “If that was easy for him, he’s not calling this program.” (22:19)
• Classic self-deprecating banter: “He’s 33, sounding like 68.” (21:01)

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Segment 3: Fraud Alert Friday (26:24–52:21)

The Premise

• Listeners submit possible fandom transgressions; the hosts issue amusingly stern (or forgiving) verdicts.
• Don: “I have been a complete and utter fraud.” (26:28)
• Dave: “Are you a fraud? Yes. Well, no, I’m just busy.” (34:44)

Notable Fraud Cases

• Wearing Other Teams’ Gear (31:48)

  • An Australia-based listener (Carlos) confesses to wearing non-NY merchandise (Marlins and Panthers gear) as gifts despite unwavering NY fandom.
  • Dave: “As long as he’s not donning any Red Sox, Patriot, Celtic garb, I got no issue with that. No fraud.”
  • The panel agrees: wearing non-rival gear = not a fraud if it’s a gift and not a betrayal.
  • Alan admits: “I had a Tom Brady jersey…early on that seemed like a pretty cool thing” (33:53)

• Calling Out Don on Cameo Delays (34:10)

  • Listener Jonathan calls in: Don took a week to fulfill a paid video, Jonathan called him out on Twitter.
  • Don rules: “He called me out on social media and got it done…That’s the aggressiveness I was talking about with the last caller.” (34:44)
  • Alan deems Don a fraud for not fulfilling promptly, especially during a slow week: “Of all the weeks he could have gotten it done.” (35:11)

• Switching from Jets to Patriots—During the Super Bowl! (35:53)

  • A listener’s brother quits rooting for the Jets to become a Patriots fan.
  • Dave: “That’s so lame…lame fraud!” (36:40)
  • Panel agrees: worst form of fraud—switching to a division rival, especially during their Super Bowl run.

• Borrowed Fandom for Spite (45:36)

  • Giants fan rooted for the Eagles to beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl purely to spite a co-worker.
  • Dave: “Have the guy killed. Do something. You just can’t be an Eagle fan just because one person irritates you.” (45:37)
  • Don empathizes with the urge, but the verdict is still “fraud.”

• The “Front-Runner” Question—Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers (51:18)

  • Eddie from Long Island complains about people who root for all the most popular, successful teams.
  • Dave: “They’re a Yankee fan, but the same reason they’re a Laker fan or Cowboy fan is because the team won a lot. But they mask it because it just so happens the Yankees are in the place they live. But the logic’s the same.” (51:36)
  • Verdict: Front-running is inherently fraud-tinged, regardless of geography.

• Other Fun Cases:

  • Wearing a Jason Terry Mavericks jersey because you share the name “Terry” (no fraud).
  • Forgetting friends’ birthdays on the radio show (no fraud after age 50!).

Email Bag: Music Debates

• Listeners defend and debate Don’s top 5 greatest rock songs list: sharp takes, some (Tutti Frutti, Purple Haze) called “representative, not great” songs.
  • Alan: “He makes a very compelling argument…in some ways, stronger than your own arguments.” (44:21)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On the Jets’ futility:
  • Don: “It’s a complete, complete crapshoot…assume they will be one of the worst teams in the league.” (12:09)
• On Malik Willis as an option:
  • Don: “It’s the sexiest option out there for them.” (17:14)
• On fraudulence:
  • Dave: “He’s given up on the Jets…joined the enemy in the Super Bowl. Sick, lame fraud!” (36:51)
• Listener fun:
  • Alan: “If you’re a fan of music, there’s no disputing that…the songs Don picked are great. All time great, classic great. No debate.” (43:04, quoting listener email)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Jets QB Discussion & Derek Carr Rumor: 00:50–18:43
• Life Advice Call (“How do I find love?”): 19:41–22:59
• Fraud Alert Friday: 26:24–47:07 (extends through episode, with verdicts and fun)
• Greatest Rock Song List Debate: 41:56–45:36
• Front-Runner Fan Fraud & Episode Close: 51:14–52:21

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Tone & Style

Hosts are irreverent, candid, and conversational. They blend sharp sports analysis with humor, nostalgia, and plenty of personal anecdotes. Listener interaction—whether via calls or email—is lively, honest, and central to the show’s New York sports radio spirit.

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Summary

This episode is a quintessential slice of New York sports talk: deeply knowledgeable, hilariously jaded about the Jets' never-ending misery, and never taking itself too seriously. “Fraud Alert Friday” lets fans and hosts admit, debate, and laugh about the rules (and transgressions) of true sports fandom. The Carr-to-Jets speculation is treated with both hope and skepticism, and by episode’s end, it’s clear: whether it's heartbreak, fraudulence, or a QB conundrum, being a New York sports fan is never dull.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

And well if let me start with this. Do you think it's important to have a quarterback on a football team?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

All right, cool.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And because the jets have proven when you don't then you're not winning very many games. And I've heard so many different theories, you know, tank for the 27 draft because there's going to be better quarterbacks there. You can get Arch Manning, yada yada yada. They have to play games this year and I think they have to win games this year because they're not going to go through another two win season, get the first overall pick and have Aaron Glenn come back in year three with five wins under his belt in two seasons. That is not going to Work. They're going to have to go out and get a quarterback. Now. Is it going to be Kirk Cousins who they can get for nothing? Are you going to trade for Willis and Green Bay? Are you going to wait and see if Kyler Murray shakes loose? But the bigger thing to me, Peter, is the fact that Derek Carr is coming out of retirement. And apparently he wants to be a Jet. How about that? He wants to be a Jet.

[Don Hahn]

Anyone wanting to be a Jet is worth note now.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It is worth noting. Now we have the audio because he was on the Homegrown podcast, and Derek talked about his love for the head coach of the New York Jets, Aaron Glenn.

[Don Hahn]

I love Aaron Glenn.

[Alan Hahn]

I love him.

[Don Hahn]

He's a good friend.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Great golfer, good friend. Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

Love Aaron Glenn.

[Don Hahn]

Talk to him whenever it's viable.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I love Aaron Glenn. Might be viable soon.

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[Dave Rothenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

Mine was for Christmas tree.

[Dave Rothenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

But I also love Jet fans. Here's why.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

I checked.

[Dave Rothenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

Little deal. I checked. I throw this game win.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

Jet fans, because we help them get a worst draft, donated to Valley Children's Hospital.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, that's cool.

[Don Hahn]

They're like, derek, I got so many tweets. Thank you so much.

[Alan Hahn]

That's cool.

[Don Hahn]

And Valley Children's even was, like, telling me we're getting so many New Jersey and New York calls right now.

[Dave Rothenberg]

That's pretty awesome. Jet fans, well done there. I love you. I'll give you.

[Don Hahn]

Thank you for helping the kids.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Now, obviously, that. That's cool that that happened. So that. That when you hear it say that, it sounds more like. Like, I think Jet fans are cool because of all the money they donated. Not so much. I'm trying to get on their good side. He went on to say on the Homegrown podcast he would come back under two conditions. Moral story. Would I come back? The answer obviously is yes. Good. Okay, great. But I have had to say no a couple times so far.

[Don Hahn]

Would I do it?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

Would I do it for anybody?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Absolutely not.

[Don Hahn]

There's no way.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I know. I told you two things. I'd have to be healthy, and I would want a chance to win a Super Bowl.

[Don Hahn]

That's two pretty good things.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Obviously, that's a tough thing to find.

[Don Hahn]

That's hard to do. That's not easy.

[Dave Rothenberg]

All right, so Never mind then. 1, 800. All right. Hearing that the jets did not. They'll give him a chance to play, but they're not going to be winning a Super bowl anytime soon. But people are starting to connect the dots. He was nice about the Jet fans. Bill Musgrave is with the jets now, his old O.C. so they're, they're trying to connect it. All right. I don't think he's got a lot of options, but if he's going to be true to his word about the two conditions and he wants to go out there win a Super bowl, he's not going to come back to play for the Jets. But I don't, I don't see him coming back and playing for anybody winning a suit. Where, where's he going to go to win a Super Bowl? Unless he's going to be the backup quarterback in Seattle and that maybe he gets a chance to play or the backup quarterback in New England or the backup quarterback in Buffalo and gets a ring or maybe gets a chance to play because of injury. But what team is he going to take over that is going to be sniffing a Super bowl anytime soon? Who? Nobody.

[Don Hahn]

That's not usually the teams who are looking to consider a Derek Carr at this stage are usually not the team that's also thinking about a Super bowl run that year.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And also do we know what he's going to have when he comes back. But the interesting thing about him is that if he can get back to anything, he was in New Orleans before he to shoulder or be what he was with the Raiders. You know, he could be a quarterback for a few years to be a darn good quarterback, but I don't know if he's going to be able to do that or not. But if you're a Jet fan and you hear he's interested in coming to your team in some way, shape or form, where does he jettison atop the list of the possible options? All right, here's the list. Kirk Cousins, Kyler Murray, Judge Dream Bay, a jugs, Derek Carr, bringing back Tyrod Taylor. I would think he'd be.

[Don Hahn]

Because he'd be.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Wouldn't cost you anything like, listen, Willis to me is number one. But it's going to cost you. Green Bay is not going to hand them over to you. Kyler Murray might shake loose to be free, but right now I think he's still property of Arizona. Kirk Cousins just cost you money, which the jets have plenty of and Derek Carr would fall into that. So where does Carr fit somewhere between Willis and Murray? Does he. Is he at the top of your list? Bottom of your list? Where would you put him?

[Don Hahn]

Car. Yeah, overall for me, I would put car after Malik Willis, I think he's. I think because I liked what he was prior to injury and I'm. I'm not really sure on where he's at right now. I am more curious about what he can do than I am say Kyler Murray than I am Tyrod Taylor. I think he at least has a potential ceiling we're not exactly sure about yet. So I would. Malik Willis, to me is the most appealing option. And then I would say Derek Carr. What say you?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, well, it's. But it's going to cost you. But so what? What is it going to cost you? I don't think it's going to cost you a first round pick. Now, Carr's intriguing. He's what, 34. I'm just looking up his age here. March 28, 1991. So at the start of the season, he'll be 35 years old. Not an old man by any stretch of the imagination. His last season in the NFL, he only played the 10 games, but, you know, 16 touchdown passes. Doesn't throw a ton of interceptions in there, but he has thrown interceptions in the past. He's a quarterback that, when healthy, is going to throw for 3,500 yards, 22 touchdowns and 10 picks. Right? That, that's where I think that's where he'll give you. And that's what probably Cousins would give you. That's what you know. But, but Murray and Willis are intriguing because like we thought with Justin Fields last year, there might be something there, right, that where he can check a couple of boxes. He could be your right now and then turn into your forever, where everybody else is just gonna be your right now. Car is gonna be your right now, Cousins is gonna be your right now until you figure it out. But Murray, maybe he writes himself, maybe this new regime can crack the code on him. And certainly you feel that way about Willis, right? Like we heard Phil Sims yesterday when we played that sound when he was on with Barton Carlin about how good he could be.

[Caller/Guest]

But Don, did you say 22 touchdowns and 10 picks?

[Dave Rothenberg]

That's what I was saying. Best.

[Caller/Guest]

As your best case scenario.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yes.

[Caller/Guest]

Aaron Rodgers in the 512 jets season threw 28 touchdowns and 11 picks.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And they had no use for him.

[Caller/Guest]

So, yeah, if we're going to get similar comparisons of play here and that roster's. I don't know, is that roster better than this roster? Is the 2024 jet roster better than what's going to look like the 2026 jet roster?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Well, see, that's the thing is that Derek Carr is just a guy that is going to be your quarterback for maybe the next couple of years. But now you got Jet fans saying, well, I don't want him going out there and winning six games because then we're not going to get a great quarterback in the draft. It's such a conundrum, right? You got to play games and I think you got to win games, see, So I, I lean towards if you really want to get this done and you really want to give Aaron Glenn a chance here, go out and get Willis and try to win games and hope he's your quarterback rather than dragging a guy in here that's going to win you just enough games for you to not get the franchise quarterback. And then where are you going? But here's the other thing, all right, so you're tanking. Go Owen 17. And then Arch Manning says, no, thanks, I don't want to be drafted by you. I'm going to do what my uncle did. Then where do you go?

[Don Hahn]

Right?

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's such a pain in the ass with this Jet team. I swear to God, there's nothing to do. There's no answer.

[Don Hahn]

There's no answer. There's nowhere to go. This is why I feel so bad. It's like every year that passes, they're not even any closer to the answer. The next year, Don, we couldn't. Do you remember the last few weeks, all I said was I wanted to see the jets keep winning because if the jets had at least won down the stretch last year, then you could firmly say, I think we found the coach. This team plays really hard. They're not very talented, but they are finding a way to win in spite of that. This coach has really galvanized this team, but they weren't consistent enough to do that. So we really don't know. Now this guy has retooled the entire team with different coordinators, different personnel, everywhere you start the year. No quarterback, essentially. New coach again, Don, because what can you tell me you know about Aaron Glenn? Nothing.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So nothing that you can't know anything.

[Don Hahn]

If anything, you lean bad. No idea. The quarterback is. It is a complete, complete crapshoot again going into this year. And you probably, if you have to bet default, assume they will be one of the worst teams in the league and the year will end with Don them not knowing what is happening going into the next year. It's my guess.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's such, it's such a dilemma now, Anthony. So is a free agent.

[Caller/Guest]

I believe the great Rick D. Pietro has been texting me.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Okay.

[Caller/Guest]

And said why don't you take a look at Malik Willis's contract And I'm not mistaken. I believe that Malik Willis is contract is up, so he's a free agent. And the thing with Derek Carr that Rick also points out is even though he's retired, he has one more year on his contract with the Saints. So technically a la Sean Payton, you'd probably have to give something to the Saints to get his rights slash get that year of his contract. Unless the Saints just say we're good. We don't, we don't want Derek Carr. Take him for a conditional seventh round pick if you'd like.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's not going to be anything but I'm glad we were able to straighten that out. But I want to be able to get the deets on the contract for Willis because he's only. It's there. Peter. Right. Was he going to be 26 years old?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I think that's right.

[Caller/Guest]

I think he's on his, his Titans rookie deal if I'm not mistaken.

[Don Hahn]

That's right. This was year four.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah. Isn't it crazy how they've gone through now three, three quarterbacks, Willis Levis and now you think they're going to stick with Ward? You think, you think. Think Brian Dables got him?

[Don Hahn]

So let's see. Yeah, 22.

[Dave Rothenberg]

He.

[Don Hahn]

Willis played eight games. He started three games for Tennessee in 22. He started zero games in 23. He then goes to Green Bay, appears in seven games, starts two was 2, 0 in 24 and then he appears in four games and starts one in 25. As we know, he lost that game but was really good. 30 of 35, 422 yards and three touchdowns in that game. He started or throughout the year. So you really don't know. Don't going to Green Bay being with lafleur, could that turn around and have him as a different player?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, yeah, listen, he's 28. He's unrestricted free agent for 2026.

[Don Hahn]

So. Yeah. So all they. The reason. Well another reason Willis is appealing is you just got to come up with a deal that makes him appealing, that makes this work.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Well, it's going to cost you, but who cares, right? It's all. It's only money they've got. They've got room under the cap.

[Don Hahn]

Well and they gave, they gave Justin Fields 20 million, right. I. I can't imagine.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Because it was a two year contract.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it was 30 guaranteed 20 years, two for 40.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, yeah. 20 million a year. Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

So the question Is, I guess.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And he's still under contract. So that's where it gets a little dicey because both Cook and. Both Cook is under contract and Fields is under contract. But you can make. Again, they still can make it work. Just a matter of whether he'd want to come here now. He'd be the number one. He'd be backing up Love, but he'd be on a team where you're in a full rebuild for at least a couple of years. Does he think he's got a future in Green Bear? Does he want to go someplace where there's a team that's a little bit closer than the jets are?

[Caller/Listener]

So.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But you could probably offer him what you need to get done, and that seems to be the guy. And I think Murray will become available, too. I think it's only a matter of time before he's probably flat out released by Arizona. There's.

[Don Hahn]

But imagine you mess around. You know, it is Malik Willis. Let's say he's even more.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Don.

[Don Hahn]

Let's say he's. Let's say he's worth 25 million. And that would be very high to me. I think 25 is the max. But, Don, isn't it worth that risk? Just on the off chance that a meaningless year turns into a year that you stumble into a really great quarterback with extremely low mileage who was, you know, spent the last couple years in a really healthy system and got good, played behind a great quarterback, practiced on a good team, comes in here and listen, I'll put it this way. I would put it ahead of the likelihood of Justin Fields turning out to be that guy that Justin, that Malik Willis is that guy. I give Malik Willis better odds, counterpoint.

[Caller/Guest]

As a free agent. He can go anywhere. And why are you choosing the jets other than the fact that this is your guarantee? Okay.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah. You just want.

[Don Hahn]

I mean, because how many places are there for Malik Willis to start? And at this stage, he's got to be thinking, it's year five. This is my chance to show people who I am and get a shot to start in this league. And there's only going to be a handful of places that you could do that. I don't hate it. I think it's the sexiest option out there for them.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And it's certainly better than trying to go to the draft where I'm telling. I don't know. I don't know what Manning's been saying. First of all, who knows what happens this year and how he looks and whether he's going to be somebody that's going to be projected to be the number one overall pick in the draft. I would assume he would be. But if, if the, if the Mannings have any say, how, how are you telling me you wouldn't let Eli go to San Diego, but you'd, you'd let Arch go to New York? Not only to be in the same city where his uncle won two Super Bowls and have to deal with that, but also a team that has not been to the playoffs, which will be going on 16 consecutive years by the time he's drafted. Would you really want to take the chance in tanking for him to just tell you no? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you got quarterbacks suing the league. Try to stay in school for six years to try to avoid having to get drafted by some of these garbage NFL teams.

[Don Hahn]

Well, especially if you can continue to develop and get paid in college and have fun on campus rather than go live God knows where and play for a terrible team.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, just a dilemma. How do you not feel like just disgusted for the jets at this point? But I just thought the car stuff was. Was interesting. But then when you hear the sound, it sounds a lot different than it didn't print. He loves Jet fans because of the money they donated to the charity and he wants to come back with the teams to compete for a Super Bowl. And the jets are going on 16 straight years missing the puck because I can't see them making the playoffs this year. So that's 16 straight. And with the Buffalo Sabres going to the playoffs this year, in all likelihood they'll be standing alone the longest streak in North American sports of not being able to make the playoffs. So why would you want to come out of retirement for that unless you just desperately want to play? And he didn't sound like he was desperate to play at all. Scary. Is that Deets in Colorado? You're on ESPN New York. He's got a question about life. I'm nervous.

[Caller/Listener]

Happy birthday to you.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, beautiful.

[Caller/Listener]

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday dear Don Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Don. Real quick. Top love song, Harvest Moon by Neil Young. And listen, I'm three 30 year old man. How do I find love?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Thanks.

[Caller/Listener]

Always.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I gotta say, there's a lot going on. He went the full version of the song. You don't usually. When was the last time you heard that and you weren't about to blow out a candle?

[Don Hahn]

It's not every day. It's not coming.

[Dave Rothenberg]

He's 33 and he's asking me how he can find love. Did I hear that right? Yeah, that sounds about right.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Got to put yourself out there, man. That's all I can tell you. Whether it's on a dating app. Going out to the bars. You're 33, so you can legally drink and just start hitting on women, man. It's not coming to you. They're not falling in your lap.

[Don Hahn]

I don't.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Unless you're actually getting a dance.

[Don Hahn]

I don't like this advice from Don at all.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You don't like it at all? You got to put yourself out there, man. You got to go for it. No, I'm telling you, going out there.

[Don Hahn]

And hitting on women, that's not going to be.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

Do you hear him? He's calling sports talk radio and singing.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Happy birthday, and he's 33 and looking for love. He's 33. Sounding like 68. What was that, Jacob? I'm sorry. I say he sounded like 68. I was a little worried. I thought he was gonna croak over during that song.

[Don Hahn]

Don, how about an app?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Well, I said, you gotta put yourself out there so you can run an app. But most of the single men that I know that want to be married or want to be in a relationship and aren't are guys that go to the bars and they're wallflowers. They sit there, they nurse their beer, they look around and they long for, like, some woman's gonna just stroll up to them and say, you know what? You look hot. Here's my number. You got to put yourself out there. You got to make conversation. All right, maybe hit on is strong, but you got to put yourself out there, get into conversations. How are you? What's going on? You want to dance? Whatever. I'm telling you, I could just sense that there was an awkwardness. Didn't know how to talk to women. He goes out, he's a wallflower. He's not participating, and he's waiting for them to fall out of the sky like it's going to start raining women, and he's going to be single for the rest of his life. I'm telling you, I know from experience when. Once you start getting in the conversation, then you put yourself out there, and then they know. Now it means getting rejected a lot, but at least you're in the fight. He's trying to get a base hit on the on deck circle. Doesn't work.

[Don Hahn]

No, you can't. You got to get in the game. There's no question about it. I just. The one Thing I didn't like about what you said was not the putting the out there, it was the let's go out there and hit on women part. Because if that was easy for him, if he were capable of just doing that, he's not calling this program.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Well, it's kind of Captain Literal man. But what I just mean is just put yourself out there and create conversation. Let them know that you're interested. They're not going to be able to read your mind.

[Don Hahn]

No, you got to get out there.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So hit on is just very pejorative. Not pejorative, just very pedestrian way of just saying go out there and just introduce yourself and. Because if you're 33 and you're looking for love and you're asking me, you're.

[Don Hahn]

In all the wrong places.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You're lost. Wilkin Penub, man, you're lost. Yeah, come on, come on. You're 33, single, and asking me so you're lost in the wilderness, man. So I'll try to help you.

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[Don Hahn]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Podcast Host]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Did you or someone you know participate in fraudulent fan behavior?

[Don Hahn]

I'm a fraud with a capital F.

[Podcast Host]

Is your friend a fraud?

[Don Hahn]

I have been a complete and utter fraud.

[Podcast Host]

Are you a fraud?

[Don Hahn]

What is fraud?

[Podcast Host]

Let's ask Tom McGregor.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Screw.

[Don Hahn]

Go scratch yourself.

[Podcast Host]

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[Don Hahn]

D' Agostino hi, welcome to Fraud Alert Friday. As you heard, brought to you by our dearest of friends, Dagaso Law. Play the drop Dago Don, how are you?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Good. Jaylen gave me a button to wear on the air.

[Don Hahn]

Take a look. Oh, I see it's my birthday. Can't believe how old these kids are. It's absolutely insane.

[Dave Rothenberg]

How can I say no?

[Don Hahn]

You can't.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Which is on her way to Acro Dance.

[Don Hahn]

Which kid at this moment do you like more? Go ahead.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, Jalen. Marco's been on my last nerve the last couple of days.

[Don Hahn]

So power ranking in the power rankings at this moment. Jalen won Marco, too.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, but it's very fluid. It can change before the end of the show. Right, but right now, she gave me this.

[Don Hahn]

That's all you got to give. Put her in the one spot then. Got a lot of emails in here.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Over the last week. Good, good. Let's do it, man.

[Don Hahn]

My goodness, man.

[Dave Rothenberg]

My goodness.

[Don Hahn]

All right, let's see. I love and enjoy all three of you. Been listening for years. Someone needs to tell Don, who considers himself a citophile, that Zoe Saldana is the highest grossing female actress of all time, and he needs to put some respect on her name for bonus points. Who did she just pass for that honor?

[Dave Rothenberg]

So now we've turned it into a trivia.

[Don Hahn]

He's. He answered the question. Scarlett Johansson.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah. Makes sense, right?

[Don Hahn]

I don't know. Scarlett has movies that are that big.

[Podcast Host]

What are.

[Don Hahn]

What are her gigantic marvel. Oh, she's. She's in the Marvel, right? Sure. It's not even fair to get the Marvel. You know what I mean? Once you're in the Marvels.

[Caller/Guest]

Black Widow, the Avengers. Yeah, it's all.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Bet you Kate Winslet was up there back in the day with the whole Titanic thing.

[Don Hahn]

All right, here we go, guys. Good afternoon, guys. That guy that wanted a ruling for being a Pats fan and a Yankees fan has done nothing wrong, especially when the Giants and Jets have physically left their fans for money. Well, the Giants and Jets left their fans for money.

[Dave Rothenberg]

All right. You can't. Why? Because. Oh, because they leave as free agents that make some frauds.

[Don Hahn]

They have let. No, they have left New York for cheaper facilities in New Jersey. And yes, it's part of the Tri State when you. But when you need to cross state lines and pay those ridiculous tolls. They've screwed their fan base. Well, they don't deserve to have the surname of New York. He's calling the teams frauds.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Well, if I remember now, again, this was. They opened up giants Stadium in 1976. They opened it in 76. They were working on it two years prior. So I was like six years old. But from the stories that I heard is that the marriage. They wanted to stay in New York, that there just wasn't any offers. So they went to New Jersey and you saw the jets tried to build right on the west side of Manhattan. Dolan wouldn't let it happen. It got landlocked and blocked and nobody could do it. I mean, what are you supposed to do? Where are the Chicago Bears going to play, Peter? Once they.

[Don Hahn]

Perhaps Missouri, I don't know.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, they're Going to be. They're going to be going Indiana. I mean, it just. It wasn't like they ch. I'm sure they wanted to stay in New York, but they got an offer in Jersey and they took it.

[Don Hahn]

Donna Rosenberg. I'm writing in for an official ruling by Allegiance. I am a Yankees, jets and Knicks fan. No wavering there. My friends and colleagues have known me for years as a die hard New York sports fan. Here's where the potential fraud comes in.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Over time, people started giving me jerseys and gear. Not only for my teams, but other teams too. By the way, I should add, this gentleman is from Australia.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Okay, so he's not from New York.

[Don Hahn]

No. At first I refused to wear them. It felt wrong. Morally questionable, spiritually dirty. But then some of the gear was really nice. Couple of examples, a Florida Marlins hat with the old F logo. Absolute fire. A personalized Carolina Panthers jersey with my name on the back, gifted by my sister in law in Charlotte for my 40th birthday. I'll be honest, I felt a little dirty wearing them. But I also looked great. Complicating matters further, while my sports loyalty is fully New York, I'm not actually from New York. And I currently live in Perth, Australia. When Peter visited Perth, I offered my free services as a tour guide. Though WWE clearly had much better plans for him. That's my bad. I apologize. I was so upside down on these trips across the world. So the question stands, am I a sports fraud for wearing non NY gear that was gifted to me? Despite my unwavering NY fandom, I humbly submit my case to the honorable Judge legreco. Looking forward to the verdict. Love the show. Carlos in Perth, Australia.

[Dave Rothenberg]

We've had this conversation before about jerseys and I've always said no fraud. The examples he gave. He's a Jet fan. He got a Carolina Panther jersey. All right? There's no rivalry there. He loved the logo of the Marlins. He said that the F logo was fired. So he loved that. Well, you know what? He's a Yankee fan. I guess in 2003 that would have been awkward. But otherwise, not in the same league, not in the same division. I was a Marlin, so I don't. I don't. It's odd that he's getting gifted all this merch of teams he doesn't root for. Maybe he needs to make it known to his family that he roots for the Knicks, the Jets and the Yankees. But as long as he's not donning any, you know, Red Sock, patriot, you know, Celtic garb, I got no issue with that. No fraud.

[Don Hahn]

Daggers, obviously. It's funny that you include the Celtics.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I just.

[Don Hahn]

I really don't think of the Knicks and Celtics is that serious.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But I get they share a division at least.

[Don Hahn]

No, yeah, I hear you. I hear you. I. I'm with you too. Wearing like a nice looking hat or whatever from another team. As long as it's not a fierce ride rival, who cares? Like, if you're a sports fan, you're a sports fan. Now listen, I wouldn't do it that much, and particularly with football, I can't do it. But when I was into jerseys, when I was a jersey guy, I had so many random football jerseys. No, what was. Let's see. What would be the most offensive jersey I owned as a red? Most offensive I didn't have. I never owned a Giant, never owned a Cowboy, never owned. Never owned an Eagle.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So you're good.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. I had a Favre Packer jersey. I had a Browns jersey. I. I can't believe I'm admitting this. This is going to shock you, but you have to understand, this was so early. I believe I got this jersey, perhaps his rookie year, so, like. And I've gotten rid of it since. But this is crazy how time changes things. I had a Tom Brady jersey.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, yeah. Early on, that seemed like a pretty cool thing, right?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it just seemed like he was a good young player. Like, he was a cool player.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I didn't.

[Don Hahn]

I didn't. I didn't know the Patriots would become as hateable as they did. We have a caller. Let's go to what? Jonathan on line three. He is the. He is the listener who called you out on Cameo for being.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, Jonathan, what's going on, man?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, what's up, Don? So, I mean, you saw the tweet already and clearly was acknowledged quickly. Big fan of your show. Listen to you guys every day. But, you know, the cameo was getting for like, almost a week and we hadn't received it yet, and we were trying to get our draft going, you know, I just. I decided to be the one to take it upon myself after some discussion or group chat to tweet you out and just see what the deal was and say that, you know, it's kind of a little bit of a forgery. It took you a week. I know you're a busy guy and all, but what happened?

[Dave Rothenberg]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna rule on this, Jonathan. I think what you did is not fraudulent at all. He called me out on social media and got it Done. He got me to do the cameo. That's the aggressiveness I was talking about with the last caller. Call me out, man. I hope you enjoyed it. It was, but are you a fraud? Yes. Well, no, I'm just busy. I don't know if I'm a fraud. Peter, you warned me about cameo. It's tough, man. Sometimes.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, but hold on, but hold on. Listen, Jonathan, I'm gonna rule that Don is a fraud on account of the fact that he is normally busy. No devils this week. Hit Don with the fraud. I mean, of all the weeks he could have gotten it done.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It is true, but. But I got it done. Right?

[Caller/Listener]

I'll say this, though. You hit me with the 10th tick. I think that is a double fraud. But I'm the one that tweeted her out, so I get it.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I love the aggressiveness. If our last caller was that way with women, he'd be married by now.

[Don Hahn]

It's a great point.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Thank you for the call, Jonathan.

[Don Hahn]

While we're on the phone lines, let's go to Hugh real quick. I do want to get some more emails. Let's go to Hugh in Franklin Square. What's up, Hugh?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, guys. Love the show. Long time, listeners. Second time calling. Cool, Don. Love you dearly, brother Peter. Love you too, man. And got this amazing fraud alert for you. My elder, elder brother, he comes over for Super Bowl Sunday, comes in with the jets jersey, looking great. He says to me, hugh, I'm sick of the Jets. I'm done with them. So he says, I'm picking a new team to follow. Don, take a guess what team he's going to follow. I'm going to give you a clue. The AFC team in the AFC East.

[Dave Rothenberg]

An AFC east team?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Patriots.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, Don.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Dude, that's so lame that, you know we've got a new category, Peter. Horrible lame fraud.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, we've never seen. I don't know if I've ever heard of lame.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, there's never been the very rare and certainly not coveted lame fraud. He's given up on the jets, which I get. So he's gonna pick the Patriots, a team that was playing in the Super Bowl. A team that he should hate. A team in his own division. Not like, you know what? I'm just out. I'm just gonna be a Carolina Panther fan. No, he. No, he joined the enemy in the Super Bowl. Sick, lame fraud. Tell him I said that. Record this. I'll get. You know what? Give me his number. I'll call him. Better yet, get a cameo.

[Don Hahn]

That's a great use for the Don Lagreca cameo.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Right.

[Don Hahn]

I'm going to put some money in Don's pocket here. You should be calling, you should be getting Don to do cameos to tell your people that they are frauds.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Right. I'll rule for a very small fee.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. It may not go the right way that they're hoping. However, if they're willing to gamble and they're confident then they'll get the ruling that the right.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And then what I do is at 4:30 every Friday I offer a little bit for free. But if you don't want to wait till Friday or you're stuck on hold or Peter doesn't read your email, I you cameo that dollar.

[Don Hahn]

You got a bunch of emails. I. Oh yeah, a lot. I have someone in, I have, I have someone in here defending your top five greatest rock song list.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Okay, that seems worth it. Well, you want to carry it over? Is it tease worthy? Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Let's take a break. I got more in this. I got a full bag of so much email. Let's, let's do more here. Dhrespnmail.com will continue fraud alert Friday. On the other side, it's brought to you by our Good friends at D' Agostino Law. 35 years getting accident victims and Social Security disability clients every dollar they deserve. Offices in New York and New Jersey. 1-800-Biteback 1-800-248-3222 Dagostino Law.

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[Don Hahn]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Podcast Host]

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[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Probably the most commercially successful door. Back in the early 70s. Not my favorite. Not bad.

[Don Hahn]

It had a big moment in my childhood. Had a big. It had a big comeback for some reason. Probably.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Maybe.

[Don Hahn]

I don't know. I don't know why exactly.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Maybe the movie 91, the Val Kilmer vehicle, the Oliver Stone. That would make sense, right?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, maybe it was the song that brought it back. I mean the movie that brought back the song. All right, welcome back to Fraud Alert Friday. Here is the email that's not quite related to fraud except defending those of us who calls Don's Call Don's list fraudulent. He said. I've been really bothered by the criticism of Don's top Top five greatest Rock song lists and had to get in touch. If you're a fan of music, there's no disputing that. The songs Don picked are great. All time great, classic great. No debate. Tutti Frutti, however, is not a great song. The artist that performs it is great and it's very memorable and perfectly representational of early rock. But as a song, Purple Haze is not a great song.

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Either.

[Don Hahn]

It's a terrific showcase for a great artist and also representational of how rock music evolved. But a great song on its own, eh? I want to hold your hand. Really? It doesn't even make the list of the Beatles top 10 greatest songs. Actually Alan and Peter are both that guy, not Don. None of the songs they chose are great. Memorable, influential, recognizable, not great. Well, I love I like the message. You're done. I didn't know you had this email address, Don, but let me push I I like the I actually think he makes a very compelling argument.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I I one thing I will dispute all I guess 14 songs because we you guys repeated Smells like Teen Spirit are great songs. You guys have great songs.

[Don Hahn]

Well and at least I hear the argument about Tutti Frutti. Dude, you, you don't think this is to the listener. Not to you. Dude, you don't consider Seven Nation Army a great song. You know, the Cult of personality is a great song. That's Come on.

[Dave Rothenberg]

That that's a bad now you get in the preference and that's not right. You know, gotta leave your heart.

[Don Hahn]

But I think his argument, I think the way he argued for you though very strong. It was pretty strong in some ways. Stronger than your own arguments.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Interesting. You should hire gotta argue for.

[Don Hahn]

Let's see. Patrick says I'm a diehard Giants fan, okay? And like my fellow fans, I hate the other NFC east teams. However, back in 2018, when the Eagles played the Patriots in the Super Bowl, I committed fraud. I had a co worker that was an incredibly obnoxious Patriot fan. Seriously, I don't think there is a word strong enough to encapsulate the obnoxiousness. Our first year working together was the year of the Malcolm Butler interception. And there was the 28. 3 comeback. My God, he was insufferable. Leading up into the Super bowl in 2018, he was awful to be around. Because of him, I found myself rooting for the Eagles simply because I wanted him to shut up. During the game, I was actively rooting for the Eagles. Now years later, I watch the Eagles and I'm disgusted with myself. How could I have rooted for that disgusting team to win a championship? As a Giants fan, not only does the team make me sick, but I make myself sick. Judge John, feel free to sentence me.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You're a fraud, boy.

[Alan Hahn]

Rod.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I mean, have the guy killed. Do something. You just can't be an Eagle fan just because one person irritates you. You become an Eagle fan as a Giant fan.

[Don Hahn]

Well, hold on, hold on. You're you're, you're actually misrepresenting, I think the email. He didn't become a fan. He cheered for them in the game.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, but it was in the Super Bowl.

[Don Hahn]

Well, I understand, but like that's, he didn't become a fan. That's a strong way of putting it.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Rooted for them in the Super Bowl. That means if they win, they're the super bowl champions. Shouldn't even root for the Eagles in a preseason game.

[Don Hahn]

It's funny, I, even though I agree with the ruling, I also, like, I understand where the guy was coming from. When you have that one person in your life, there can be that person that makes a team. Like just different.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Now if you, if you want to tell me, if you want to tell me that you want to throw up in your mouth, you're disgusted that the Eagles won the super bowl, but if there was one silver lining, it shut that guy up. I can understand it. That makes sense. But to actively root that, you can't, you just can't do it.

[Don Hahn]

That's the bridge too far for you.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Is what you're saying in the Super Bowl. It's bad enough that sometimes you've got to root for the Eagles because you'll win your pool or maybe you've got a player on the team that'll help you win your fantasy league. Those are business decisions. I get it for sure, like James Harden, but you got to be able to do it. But Peter, come on. But you agree with the ruling anyway, so.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I'm fine with it.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Ethan.

[Don Hahn]

Ethan writes us and says Dave Rothenberg's a fraud.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Well, I like this. Go ahead.

[Don Hahn]

At the end of the morning show today, RJ asked Dave whose birthday it was today and Dave guessed Carl Anthony Towns. Dave, a so called friend of Don's, didn't know was his birthday as Dave, a fraud friend. P.S. happy birthday from your true friends, the loyal listeners.

[Dave Rothenberg]

The reason I'm going to say no is that. Can I tell you right now when Dave's birthday is? I cannot at this stage of my life. When you're 50 plus years old, I think remembering just people you work with, even just friends, there might be a couple of friends that you just know because you've known them your whole life. Like I know Jimmy Stark's birthday is January 20th because I've known him for 40 plus years. So it's ingrained in my head. His brother died March 6. Makes sense.

[Don Hahn]

Look at that.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But I can't kill him for not knowing my birthday because right now I couldn't tell you his birthday? I'm not sure. Peter, I know you're late July, but I'm not.

[Don Hahn]

There you go.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I'm not 100%. Is it the 26th?

[Don Hahn]

23Rd.

[Caller/Guest]

I think we made it pretty clear that we didn't know last year.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, he's not. He's not a fraud now, you know, I. And it was early in the morning, so it's before he probably checked, all the social media people started wishing me a happy birthday. I would think most of the people that wish me a happy birthday today stumbled upon it, didn't happen to remember it.

[Don Hahn]

You know, I'm deciding whether I should. Whether I need to give Don a good happy birthday post on Instagram. I gave such a gushing Michael K. Birthday post, but it was 65. So that was the reason he got such a post. I consider 65 to be a big birthday, unlike Alan Hahn. Talk about fraud takes. Alan says there's no big birthdays between 50 and 90, which was an insane take the other day.

[Dave Rothenberg]

That is an insane take.

[Don Hahn]

But like Don for 58 and he never goes on Instagram. Is it worth it for me to make the Instagram post for Don't? The question I'm wrestling with. You muted yourself, Don. We've lost you. You're dead.

[Caller/Guest]

Physically unable to perform on Instagram is done.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Now, did you. Did you do. Do you have a gushing social media post when he turned 64? No. No. Right. 65 is a milestone.

[Don Hahn]

65 is a big 60. So I wait for your 60 and then bust out the big absolute. Now, I do have a gift for you. Oh, that I forgot to bring this week. And I'll have to wait till I see you in studio.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You'll see me too.

[Don Hahn]

I think it's a very. I think it's a very useful gift. I gotta tell you.

[Caller/Guest]

Now, if he doesn't use it, will you complain?

[Don Hahn]

Well, that's interesting. Bring it up. Because Alan Hahn is a big gift guy, but the gifts almost serve as, like a setup. Like, if you don't use the gift the way he wants you to, then you're going to hear about it. You agree with that description, Don?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

He's really good at giving people gifts. Well, really good at giving Don gifts. Have I gotten a gift from Alan?

[Dave Rothenberg]

You don't think so?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I don't think he cares for me. He gave. He gave me a beautiful gift for Maya.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, that's. That's not.

[Don Hahn]

That counts for something. But Don, if Don just mentions a book he hasn't Read Alan runs to Amazon and order orders it before the show's over.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, he got me, Wise Guy. He found out that I didn't read it and he got it for me for my birthday, which I'm almost halfway through. It's a terrific book.

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[Dave Rothenberg]

And I know why they made a.

[Don Hahn]

Movie out of Exactly I couldn't believe. Yet I was the one who couldn't believe that you hadn't read it. It's like that book. All right, last one. Good afternoon, Rosenberg and Lega. Two fraud questions. First one, I've been a Knicks fan since 91. Always cheer for the team and been with them through the ups and Downs. In 2011, same year the Mavericks won the championship, I bought a tape a Jason Terry jersey because we share the same last name. Thought it'd be cool to have an official NBA jersey with my name on it. No, Jason Terry and I are not related as far as I know. I've been rooting for him though, because of the same name, but never against the Knicks because I bought the jersey. Does that make me a fraud? Well, we know the answer. No.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, absolutely not.

[Don Hahn]

Second question or statement is how do you feel about Lakers, Cowboys and Yankee fans? I feel like they are the definition of frauds because most of them joined because the team is very popular and has the most consistent winning. Even though the Cowboys and Yankees haven't won recently. Do you consider them frauds? Eddie from Long Island?

[Dave Rothenberg]

I'm so glad you said that because there are a lot, I know a lot of people that are fans of teams outside the area. They're like Cowboy fans, Laker fans or maybe Bulls fans, Packer fans when packers are, you know, all the national teams that have done a lot of winning, but then they think they can bail themselves out of being a front runner or a fraud because I'm a Yankee fan. As if they're a Yankee fan because they're from the Tri State area. No, they're a Yankee fan. But the same reason they're a Laker fan or a Cowboy fan is because the team won a lot. But they mask it because it happened. It just so happens the Yankees are in the place where they live. But the logic's the same, right? The logic exactly the same.

[Don Hahn]

That'll do it for Fraud Alert Friday.

[Podcast Host]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don Hahn]

I don't want to know how the.

[Podcast Host]

Sausage is made, man.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I just want to know.

[Podcast Host]

It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN. The ESPN New York app and your smart speakers from 30 for 30 podcasts.

[Caller/Listener]

Did you say someone got shot?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Brian Pata, senior defensive lineman from Miami, gunned down the key to this case.

[Don Hahn]

It's Brian. An hour before he died, he was on the phone arguing with somebody.

[Dave Rothenberg]

This might be a hit. You want the truth?

[Don Hahn]

They just want a conviction.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Being placed under arrest. We had a killer amongst us.

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[Don Hahn]

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