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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg
Hour 2: CC Sabathia & Fraud Alert Friday
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Peter Rosenberg
This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Don La Greca
That sounds like heaven to me.
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Peter Rosenberg
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
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CeCe Sabathia
Listen, man, I'm not good for a lot guys. I'll be honest. What do I know? You know, I'm a hack. Complete and total hack. But when it comes to pulling guests, Don Allen. There's only one kind of guest I pulled. Hall of Famers. Two days ago, the the most recent class of the Rock and Roll hall of Fame, Q Tip of A Tribe Called Quest. And now, the next class of the Major League Baseball hall of Fame, friend of all of ours, beloved New Yorker and yes, hall of Famer, our guy, Cece Sabathia. Cece, it's Peter, Don and Alan. How you doing, bud?
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Carmelo Anthony
What's going on, fellas?
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CeCe Sabathia
How are you, man? How was, how was the Masters this year, man?
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Carmelo Anthony
You know what? I didn't even make it. I got tied up doing some things this week with the, with my son, and he had baseball and I didn't want to miss his first game, so I ended up staying home.
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CeCe Sabathia
You know how big a flex it is, Cece, to just say didn't make it because you just didn't feel like going because plants came up.
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Carmelo Anthony
I mean, you know, it's one of those events that you don't want to miss. But, you know, it's middle school baseball, too. It was the first game, so I get excited about baseball, so I want to see Carter play.
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Peter Rosenberg
I saw like, both, both Carmelo Anthony and yourself when both of you were name hall of Famers. You both congratulated each other. You both played at the same time in the city. Like, what is that relationship like and what's your appreciation for him getting in the Hall?
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Carmelo Anthony
No, I was super excited. I got a chance to see him the other night at the Celtics game when I went at the Garden, and I think it was his first time being back and being honored as a Hall of Famer. Like you said, we both played in the city at the same time and you know, I've always admired his career and just excited for him to be able to. To be recognized and honored as he should. Man, he's, for me, one of the greatest scorers of all time. So I love watching him play and just excited that he's hopefully going. Do you go in as a Nick? Do you get the pick in the NBA hall of Fame, or is it just like, just your.
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Peter Rosenberg
It's. Yeah, it's the Basketball hall of Fame, so they just put you in as you. Because his Syracuse National Championship will be in there, his Olympics will be.
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Carmelo Anthony
It's.
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Peter Rosenberg
It's really like your whole career as a basketball player, so it's not necessarily, you know, you don't have a hat or something. But I would argue, I think his career, even though he started with Denver, I do think he's recognized league wide as a Nick.
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Carmelo Anthony
Yeah, right. Like he should. His number should be retired as the Garden. I feel like.
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Peter Rosenberg
Well, that's a conversation. Yeah, that's a conversation right now.
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Carmelo Anthony
It is.
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Peter Rosenberg
No, it's true. It is.
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Don La Greca
I'm kind of curious how you feel about Soto leaving. You know, there's the. You know, he got his bag, but, you know, he betrayed the Yankees in some way. I mean, how did you feel when he chose to go to the New York Mets?
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Carmelo Anthony
I felt like he was always going to the New York Mets. I felt like, you know, you kind of got that feeling halfway through the summer last year. I mean, it was incredible to watch what him and Judge were able to do in the stadium last year. I mean, that was historic. That was like watching, you know, those, you know, Maris and Mantle or whoever else back in the day, I mean, watching those two do what they did last year was incredible. And I thought maybe just because, you know, they got to the World Series, he had a great year, hit 40 homers. You know, one of the best offensive years that he's had. You know, maybe we had a chance, but I just always felt like he was trying to get the Citi Field, so, you know, a player wants to play where he wants to play, so he wanted to be in New York, but I just always felt like he wanted to be a Met. So, you know, we traded for him. I felt like it worked out, we made it to the World Series, but. But he. He got to where ultimately he wanted to be.
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Peter Rosenberg
I feel like, what made you think that? What, what, what, what. What gave it away, if anything?
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Carmelo Anthony
I mean, just. Just little things here and there, you know, just. Just kind of, you know, hearing things in the inner Circle, I guess. But yeah, I just felt like, you know, he wanted more to be in City Field.
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CeCe Sabathia
Now here's where we are. We. There is no Juan Soto in the Bronx. There's not going to be a Garrett Cole. It seemed like, cc, like, no matter what happens with this Yankee team, Vegas wise and league wide and media, they just continue to be a favorite. But like, I just have to imagine you lose two of your three best players, CC from last year are now not playing. How much of an impact do you have? Do you see that having on this team as this season plays out?
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Carmelo Anthony
Yeah, I think, I think losing Garrett is going to be huge. I mean, you know, obviously he's one of the, one of the best starters in the league and a guy that's able to go deep into games and it kind of saves your bullpen. So we just have to wait and see how that plays out. I mean, I think Clark Schmidt is coming back, but that's just a huge, you know, hold of field not having, you know, a number one starter. So, you know, I think Max Reed would be great. I think, you know, Carlos would do what he can, but yeah, you know, losing him and, you know, who's not knowing what we're going to get, you know, from Bellinger and you know, I think Jazz is going to be good hitting behind Judge, but, you know, it's not Juan Soto. Until Big G comes back, you know, we're going to have to wait and see how it plays out. But yeah, losing. Losing that many guys. But I think losing Garrett will be the biggest key to, you know, to seeing how this season goes in 25.
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Don La Greca
You know, judge is going through it, CC, right. I mean, he's a historic player, one of the great Yankees of all time. I think he's on a trajectory where he can end up being one of not the best Yankees of all time, but no Ring struggles in the postseason. Do you think it's just one of those things or do you think he feels it when he gets to the playoffs and the numbers aren't what they are in the regular season?
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Carmelo Anthony
No, I think it's just one of those things, to be honest. I think, I mean, I feel like as a Yankee, I feel like when you get to October, we all feel it, you know, I mean, I feel like, you know, especially we have a warning so long. I feel like, you know, it's just one of those things when you get to October, you, you know what it is. So. But, but I, you know, even when he was young in 17, and I feel like in 18, he hit in the playoffs, you know, he hit a big homer. I remember him hitting a big homer against Oakland. I remember him hitting a big homer, you know, in the playoffs against Boston. So it's in there. It's just one of those things where, you know, the more opportunities he gets, I feel like he'll. He'll hit. And the same situation with a rod. Right? A rod. You know, everybody said he didn't hit in the playoffs, and in the one year he did, we won the World Series, and he was the reason why we won the World Series.
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Don La Greca
And if you remember, Cece, he got killed. The Yankee fans are like, I don't care about MVPs. I want the chip. And as a Yankee, you kind of expect that, I would think. But isn't it also unfair that you get held to a different standard than the other 29 teams in the league?
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Carmelo Anthony
Yeah, it is. But, I mean, it.
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CeCe Sabathia
It.
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Carmelo Anthony
You know, when you put on those finishers, we always talk about they're heavy, you know, and, you know, when you. When you. When you're. When you're in that home clubhouse, you know, there's, you know, 25 to 30 beat writers, and when you're on the other side, when I played in Cleveland, I played in Milwaukee, there's two to three beat writers. So it, you know, it just comes with the territory. But I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. You know, you. You want that pressure. You want to, you know, feel like you have a chance to win the World Series every time, you know, you. You go down to Tampa in spring training. So, you know, playing for the Yankees for 12 years, you know, the fans hold you accountable, the organization holds you accountable. But, you know, more importantly, I just feel like the ghost of that organization. Everybody, you know, from Jeter to Pettit to Reggie Jackson to Babe Ruth to all these guys that you see on the walls, you know, hold you accountable. And you. You want to be that. You see that and you want that parade. You want. You want to be immortalized in New York. So that's what comes with the territory. It is what it is.
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Peter Rosenberg
You took being a Yankee real personal, and that was something, I think, that made you so appealing to fans is how, like, the standard was something that you. You believed in and you wanted to. To uphold from the. That previous era. You know, Jeter was the captain and the leader and the guy that. That wanted to uphold all that stuff. And when you became the voice in that clubhouse, you were doing the same thing, whether it Was your own teammates or whether it was holding the other team accountable for things that happened. Something happened after the World Series that. For me, as a Yankee fan, cece, I just. I couldn't believe it. Hearing what the Dodgers were saying, mocking the Yankees, them. Them auctioning off the ball that Judge didn't catch in that game. Like, things that felt real disrespectful, like, real personal to do, and it felt like it was an attack on the brand. I know that might sound dramatic, but as a fan, that's how you feel, and you want a response. How did you feel about that when you saw that going on and you saw the things that the Dodgers were saying, kind of mocking the Yankees and the ball and everything like that? Because I thought Judge said the right things there, but. And Boone said the right things, but there still feels like the response still needs to be made somehow.
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Carmelo Anthony
I mean, the only response is to be made is to win the World Series, right? Like, what's the response? They can say what they want. They beat us in four or five. What, four games? Did they sweep us four or five games? Like, five games? Yeah. Like, so they have the right to kind of say whatever they want to say, to be honest. And I think, like you said, you know, the words that, you know, Boonie came out with, and we know, whatever Jeb said, I didn't hear, but the only response is to go out and win. Like, I mean, I'm always like, the. You know, I just. You know, nobody wants to hear what the. What the loser had to say or their response, like, who cares? Like, they won the World Series. They can say whatever they want to say. They can go on their victory tours. I know for me, just listening to who was talking, it wasn't the Mookies. It wasn't Freddie. It wasn't the guys that are leading the team. So. But, you know, it kind of is what it is, and I think those guys know how hard it is to play the game, and this game will humble you at some point, but the only response is to go out and win.
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Peter Rosenberg
Can I follow up, though, on that? Because, again, going back to how you were as a leader, I felt like going into this year's spring training, maybe don't talk about it publicly, but is it something that is. I know you don't need to remind guys, but it's sort of like, hey, we're going to take it up a notch this year, a little more intensity this year. We're not going to let the mistakes, like, just to remind guys that this is what's being said about us, and we are on kind of a revenge tour right now. Does any of that stuff ever need to be said or is it just too long of a season?
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Carmelo Anthony
No, I. I mean, I think, to be honest, if. If, yeah, if I'm in that clubhouse, then yes, but that's not up to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know, you know, the dynamics of what they have going on in the clubhouse right now. But, yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I feel like that's something that they would address. I feel like, I mean, that's something that I know that they all probably heard, you know, to a man. So knowing those guys, knowing Judge, knowing Jazz, really knowing Big G, I'm sure they had words and spoke about what was being said about them.
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Don La Greca
Does it hit different when it comes from a player rather than a manager?
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Carmelo Anthony
Like, what, with them talking amongst each other?
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Don La Greca
Yeah, yeah.
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Carmelo Anthony
It's always better when you can police yourselves. Right? Like, the teams that, you know, that I played on when Jeet was the captain, you know, Joe didn't have to say much to us, you know, it was always, you know, we're going to police ourselves. If something had to be said, G was going to say it. Mo was going to pull somebody to the side. Andy will talk to the pitchers. So, you know, on those teams where, you know, you got good chemistry, you got good leadership, it comes from the players.
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CeCe Sabathia
We're talking to the World Series champion and of course add to the docket soon to be Major League hall of Famer cece Sabathia and cece going back to the hall of Fame for a second. We all got to see the video of you guys finding out and it was just a beautiful moment to watch, seeing you celebrate with your friends and family and really, really great to see the pride among Yankee fans who love you so much. Obviously, we know what the Yankees are to you and you live in this area. Your family is here. You are New York at this point and I know you're going to put on that Yankee cap. But Cleveland was important to you and you were important to Cleveland. You still do things in the Cleveland area and are loved there. Did you have any thoughts about that? Concerns? How do you make sure sort of that Cleveland understands the role they play to you, even if you go in as a Yankee?
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Carmelo Anthony
Yeah, no, I think, I think, you know, I think for me it's always been important for me to tell my story as one of, you know, if I didn't get drafted by that organization in Cleveland, then there's no way I end up, you know, even playing in the big leagues, staying in the big leagues, and eventually ended in the hall of Fame. So I always tell that part of my story. You Know, I'm super proud to be in the. In the Cleveland hall of Fame. You know, that happened last summer. So that was super exciting. But for me, this was this place. You know, New York was a place that I fought for the longest to try not to come here, you know, and, you know, having, you know, talk to Cash and, you know, making the decision to come here, I mean, this is the best decision I can make in my life. You know, I've been here now 16 years, like you said, I feel like a New Yorker. My family's here, and this is a place that, you know, the Yankees came and got me and wanted me in free agency. You know, I feel like, you know, for me, however my story went, I got traded from Cleveland. That was a place for me. I thought I was going to play my whole career. I wanted to stay there. But it played out how it played out. I got traded, I went to Milwaukee, and, you know, a free agency. I came here a place that wanted me to come here. So I feel like it's only right that I. That I wear a Yankee cap in Cooperstown.
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Don La Greca
Cece, how is that call to the hall compared to winning the ring?
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Carmelo Anthony
Winning the ring is way. I thought. I mean, for me, it was way more fulfilling because I feel like that's something that, you know, you play for as a kid. You know, you watch the World Series. I mean, I remember, you know, sitting in my living room as a 16 year old watching the 96 World Series and me watching Andrew Jones hit two homers off Andy Pettit, and I'm like, I looked at my grandma, I was like, I'm gonna be a teenager in the big leagues. Like, that, like, inspired me to be, you know, want to make it to the big league. So, like, winning the World Series, watching the World Series and, like, as a kid, like, winning the World Series is always the ultimate goal. I never played to play to be in Cooperstown. Like, you know, I don't know if, you know, guys know exactly where I'm from. Like, I'm from, like, Vallejo, California. There was the odds of me making it to Cooperstown from where I was, where I was from are less than. Less than 1%. So that was never on my mind. It was always just, you know, trying to make enough money to get my family and make my family, get my family out of the hood and then stay in the big leagues and try to make an impact and be the best teammate I could. So, you know, getting that call to Cooperstown was the ultimate, you know, but winning the ring was for me, was, you know, that's what I play for.
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Don La Greca
Yeah, I can't speak for every kid, but in the backyard, playing Wiffle ball, playing stickball, I was pretending it was game seven of the World Series. I didn't pretend to do a speech at Cooperstown.
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Peter Rosenberg
Only Peter did. In front of the mirror, right?
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CeCe Sabathia
I was like, you know, mime.
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Don La Greca
See?
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CeCe Sabathia
Still waiting for the Radio hall to call, by the way. But whatever.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, it's coming now that. Now that it's kind of passed. I'm curious what you thought of the whole Torpedo bat thing. But you were the one that threw the. The pitch to opening day, and then all hell broke loose with all the home runs. But what. Like, what. Did you. Did you think this was a phenomenon, or did you laugh at how we all just went crazy for a week about this. This bat that was going to change the sport?
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Carmelo Anthony
No, I thought it was hilarious, to be honest, because those bats are three years old, first of all. But, like. And then. And then that day that, like, they hit the homers, I'm like, everybody was, like, freaking out about, you know, the nine homers being hit. Even the guys on the brewers were, like, yelling about the Torpedo bat. Nobody was checking to see where those pitches were actually being thrown. Like, you're throwing fastballs, 91 right down the middle. Those balls are going to be hitting to the stands, man. Like, I don't care who you are. I probably could have got a hit or went deep that day. So, like, it was just. You got to take some accountability. And then the next day, the brewers went home and gave up 11 rows to the Royals. Like, oh, yeah. It was just. I mean, it was crazy. It was cool to see, you know, the sport being talked about, though. I mean, being covered and, you know, every. You know, the guys getting his dupe. And it was cool to see, you know, the Yankees guys, you know, talking about it, jazz tweeting about it and all of that. But, yeah, I thought it was hilarious. And, I mean, you got to be able to. To put the ball in play for the Torpedo bachelor to work, too. You know what I'm saying? So good pitching could always. Good, good picture to always outdo the hitting.
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Don La Greca
But I think your best point was it had been there for three years and nobody knew about it. That's why I kind of blame Major League Baseball. Like, how. How is this a secret to everybody? And that's why everybody went flipped out. They thought the Yankees were doing something, you know, underhanded. And meanwhile, there's been Guys using it for the last three years. How do we not know?
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Carmelo Anthony
Yeah, I thought it was hilarious too, that everybody was like Major league baseball going to throw them out. Like, no way that the Yankees can make bats that the league didn't approve. Like they had their own bat company that they were making these bats from.
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CeCe Sabathia
That just goes to show the level of hate that people have for the Yankees. Like it?
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Carmelo Anthony
Yeah.
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CeCe Sabathia
That's just how deep it goes for the other teams in the league.
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Carmelo Anthony
I had it too when I didn't play for the Yankees 1000%.
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CeCe Sabathia
Listen, 27 championships will do that, you know. Now, now one team that's desperate to find a championship for maybe the best fan base in this town is that Knicks team. And the last week has not been great. You are a big basketball fan. You're seeing it a lot of the games. What are your expectations for this Knicks basketball team? And at this point, what would you consider sort of how far do they have to go in this playoffs for UCC to not be disappointed with this next season?
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Carmelo Anthony
To be honest, like being here now, like 16 years, like just watching good basketball. I'm not disappointed at all. Like, I love just going to the Garden and watching, you know, watching them compete with the Celtics the other night or you know, Cleveland, I got Cleveland coming up tonight. But just being able to watch good basketball late in the season is awesome. But I mean, I don't know. I mean, I gotta ask you guys, do you guys think they're short against, against the Celtics in the seven game series or against Cleveland? The seven game series? I mean, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if they can get past either one of those teams. So I don't think you can be disappointed just, just, just watching the season, just watching the way the season's played out. You know what I'm saying?
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Peter Rosenberg
Wow. Like that, that, that's the perspective of somebody that gets it versus like how fans are. It's the all or nothing. Like they don't want to be part of the climb. It's, it's a microwave. It's got to be instant. It's, wait, we made these two trades. We better win this year or else it's all over and everybody should be fired. And it's like it does take time. And to see them play at a level that we haven't seen offensively in years here is a great thing. But you said something that caught my attention because you said short against the Cavs and the Celtics. I didn't, I'm sure you didn't mean in size, but it is something that is a little bit of a factor with this team. They do seem to have, like, not enough size against those two teams that have tons of it. And you do see them kind of get picked on a little bit with some of their, some of their matchups. So it's, it's, it's. They got more. I think they just have more roster building to do. Cc, I don't think. Yeah, they're here yet, but, man, they're close. Like, they're right there.
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Carmelo Anthony
They are close. They are close. And yeah, I meant short in. In size and in like rotation. Right. Because I feel like it's only like seven guys that are in the rotation.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Carmelo Anthony
So, you know, like, it's just. It's just building out the roster. Maybe it takes a year or two more, but the trajectory that they're on and just watching good basketball in the garden, for me, I think they're on the right path.
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Don La Greca
Did you have a favorite Nick to watch when you were here right now or what? The time you were here, did you have a favorite to watch?
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Carmelo Anthony
I love watching Mellow. I love when Stat first got here, when Stoudemire first got here, before that Mellow trade, he was. He was really ballin Melo got here. It was fun. That Lynn Sanity for two weeks was a lot of fun too. Oh, man, that was the best. I caught a couple of those games, but. But I think Mellow during my time when I was here, when I was actually playing.
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CeCe Sabathia
Cece, you're the best. I always appreciate you answering the call and making time, you know, this summer as you get into all the big stuff with your pitch in foundation that has. That does so much amazing work. Give us the call however we can support. We're here for.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh, yes.
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Carmelo Anthony
I appreciate it.
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CeCe Sabathia
Thanks, Cece.
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Don La Greca
Thank you.
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Carmelo Anthony
Thank you guys.
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CeCe Sabathia
The great Cece Sabathia. Man, you missed that attitude, though, man.
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Carmelo Anthony
This.
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CeCe Sabathia
The way he talks about the Yankees. Allen, did you hear it in his voice?
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Peter Rosenberg
Peter, did you hear that? His voice? He was being deferential, right? He was being.
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CeCe Sabathia
That's what the fan base craves. They want that tone so bad.
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Peter Rosenberg
It's so true. He was. And he did the right thing. Respectfully. Like, I'm not in the room, so I'm sure they're talking about it. He mentioned Stan and he's like, I know Stan's doing it right. He knows that for sure. You know, whether it's Garrett Cole, whether it's Judge. How do they handle it might be different. But he said if I was there, oh, yeah, we'd have a conversation. But, you know, that's all I've been saying since, since spring training started is I want to see a team that's got an edge about them that. No. And I get it's early, but still, that just knows what was said about them, what the. Around the league, how they feel about them and take it personal. That's all. It's a long season. You're going to have games where you just, you know, you can't fire it up. But there's going to be some series that you're going to play, whether it's the Red Sox, whether it's Cleveland, whether it's, again, obviously the Dodgers. You're going to have those moments where you're like, all right, dial it up. I don't care if it's April, I don't care if it's June, I don't care if it's August. There's gonna be some times where, yeah, we gotta dial it up today and just let them know. And that's what you want to see.
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CeCe Sabathia
Well, that ruled, so shout out to CCC.
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Peter Rosenberg
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Don La Greca
It's GNC, baby.
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- [27:32]
Peter Rosenberg
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
- [27:36]
CeCe Sabathia
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
- [27:37]
Peter Rosenberg
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Did you or someone you know participate in fraudulent fan behavior?
- [27:52]
Don La Greca
I'm a fraud with a capital F.
- [27:54]
Peter Rosenberg
Is your friend a fraud?
- [27:56]
CeCe Sabathia
I have been a complete and utter fraud.
- [27:58]
Peter Rosenberg
Are you a fraud?
- [27:59]
Carmelo Anthony
What is fraud?
- [28:01]
Peter Rosenberg
Let's ask Don McGregor.
- [28:03]
Carmelo Anthony
Screw.
- [28:03]
Don La Greca
Go scratch yourself.
- [28:10]
CeCe Sabathia
How does it feel, Dom? What do you think?
- [28:11]
Don La Greca
I love that open. Great job.
- [28:13]
Peter Rosenberg
Yes.
- [28:14]
CeCe Sabathia
It's an Anthony Pusick Mike Brownshirt vehicle. That's terrific.
- [28:17]
Don La Greca
Both of those guys are absolute gems.
- [28:20]
CeCe Sabathia
Dhrespnmail.com. that is, of course, your email address. You can also call us with your fraud alerts at 1-800-919-3776. But there are a handful of emails here to already get to, so let's get to it. Don, you ready to tell people if they're fraud or not?
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Don La Greca
I am so ready.
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CeCe Sabathia
And.
- [28:41]
Carmelo Anthony
And.
- [28:41]
CeCe Sabathia
And Anthony, when he calls it out and makes his verdict, you have the sound effect that will accompany that?
- [28:46]
Peter Rosenberg
Yes.
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CeCe Sabathia
Okay, here we go. Here we go. Greetings. I have a co worker with whom I talk baseball with. He was a Yankee fan during his childhood and then also started rooting for the Mets again when they began playing in 62. To this day, he still roots for both of them. There's obvious fraudulence here. But my question to you, Don Lagreca, is what level of fraud? Coren and Mana Squad.
- [29:13]
Don La Greca
I think the level of fraud is 10. It's absolute fraud. I mean, you're talking about rooting for both teams for 60 years.
- [29:27]
Peter Rosenberg
But wait a minute. Dial that back.
- [29:29]
Don La Greca
No.
- [29:29]
Peter Rosenberg
Started out because I want to. I want to get the timeline here. Started out as a Yankees fan, Right?
- [29:38]
Don La Greca
Right.
- [29:39]
Peter Rosenberg
Then when the Mets became a team, kind of got into them.
- [29:44]
Don La Greca
Yes.
- [29:45]
Peter Rosenberg
And now just kind of likes both teams.
- [29:47]
Don La Greca
That's a fraud. It's the definition of a fraud.
- [29:50]
CeCe Sabathia
Yeah, it's like the mascot of what the segment is. Hit. Hit. Don, sound fraud alert.
- [29:58]
Don La Greca
I mean, tell me where I'm wrong. I don't know what age he was when he made that decision, but, yeah, by all means, go ahead and change if you like, and then stick with it. But to root for both teams for 60 years. What. What skin in the game do you have? So the 2000 World Series, you were going to be a winner either way. That's a fraud.
- [30:19]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. This is. You know what you call fans like this? Bartolo Colon. You get two families.
- [30:26]
Don La Greca
Oh, my God.
- [30:30]
Peter Rosenberg
This is what you got?
- [30:31]
CeCe Sabathia
All right, let's go to Gustavo writes up. My name is Gustavo. I've lived in Idaho for my entire life.
- [30:40]
Carmelo Anthony
Okay.
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CeCe Sabathia
I'm a fan of the Yankees, 49ers, Knicks and Flyers. Am I a fraud for not rooting for teams that are in my region of the country?
- [30:52]
Don La Greca
What region would that be?
- [30:55]
CeCe Sabathia
Well, yeah, Idaho.
- [30:58]
Don La Greca
So I. I guess Idaho. I guess he would have to. But was like, I guess close to Washington. Right. So does he have to then be a Mariner, Canuck, Seahawk, and now I guess Thunder fan?
- [31:11]
Peter Rosenberg
Because he would not. Not the Canucks cracking.
- [31:15]
Don La Greca
Oh no, Kraken now. But I'm assuming he's been a fan for a while if he's a Flyer fan, right? I mean, no, I think that when you're outside an area, all bets are off. You have no obligation. I mean, yeah, that. That the Seattle is the closest professional region. But no, I think you're a free agent.
- [31:34]
CeCe Sabathia
Guys, he could also get there's. He has a few options. I'm looking at Idaho because I'm a bonafide moron and don't know where anything is he. Depending on where he is in Idaho, of course, he's got Oregon directly to his west, he's got Washington above that, right below him. I mean, no, there's no use to his right. I mean, east he's got Montana and Wyoming, go scratch. Nothing. But south, he's got Utah and Nevada right there.
- [32:03]
Don La Greca
So you got some options. But you know what I. You know what I like about him? He just said, you know what? I'm a free agent. I can go trailblazers for basketball or if the Sonics were still there. Sonics or whatever. Or, you know, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, as you said. But it was before that cannot. But he just said to himself, you know what? I'm just. I'm just going to feel my way. And I don't know how he got to Knicks to Flyers for 49ers and what was the Yankees? The Yankees. I don't know how he got there, but it sounded like he got there organically because I don't know how old he is. The Flyers haven't won in, you know, 50 years. You know, I guess maybe he hopped on the 49ers and Yankee bandwagon. Maybe back in the, in the early 90s. Possibly. But no, I don't find any fraudulence in that at all. So the information that I was given, no fraud.
- [32:57]
CeCe Sabathia
No one. No fraud. Let's let's take a phone call. Jimmy in Connecticut wants to ask a question to Don about possible fraudulence. What do you got, Jimmy?
- [33:07]
Don La Greca
Hey, Jimmy.
- [33:08]
Carmelo Anthony
Hey, Don. Well, I know you're going to say there's some level of fraudulent here, but I just want you to hear me out.
- [33:14]
Don La Greca
Go ahead.
- [33:14]
Carmelo Anthony
The Yankees. In my entire life, I'm 30 years old, and I've never considered myself any type of med fan. I am now engaged to be married, and my fiance is a huge mad fan. So I found myself last fall when the Yankees weren't playing and the. The Mets were in that. That play in series or the wild cartoons. The Brewers. When Alonzo hit the home run, she was cheering, and it was kind of contagious. And I. I was happy. What I was really. What I was really rooting for was her happiness and not the message.
- [33:42]
Peter Rosenberg
I told her.
- [33:42]
Carmelo Anthony
I. I told. Listen, listen, listen. I told her, if the. If we meet in the World Series, this all ends. But am I really that much of a fraud to root for the love.
- [33:52]
Peter Rosenberg
Of my life's happiness?
- [33:54]
Don La Greca
I. I'm just wondering what level is it at? I am going to allow it. I call no fraud. No fraud.
- [34:02]
CeCe Sabathia
This is. This is shocking, Don. I feel like this is a reversal. Of course. I can't believe to hear you say this. Why?
- [34:11]
Don La Greca
Because he is. His motivation is the happiness of his wife. And he was rooting not because he wanted to see the Mets win, because he became a fan of the team. He saw how happy it made his wife, and he was rooting for his wife's happiness. I can completely, 100% understand.
- [34:28]
Carmelo Anthony
Not my wife yet. We're getting married. May.
- [34:30]
Don La Greca
I am looking forward to you having a long life.
- [34:33]
Peter Rosenberg
I'm doing that. Yeah. Good for you.
- [34:35]
Don La Greca
And you said all bets are off there in the World Series. So obviously, if the. If the met. If the Yankees are involved, all bets are off. But with the Yankees eliminated, it's not ideal to be rooting for the Mets, but to see your wife's happiness as opposed to seeing her sadness. Come on, guys. No fraud.
- [34:51]
Peter Rosenberg
So let me jump in here because I was going to offer up one from my perspective for Don to judge. Oh, wow. And yet it was just like Jimmy's. And I was curious about this because, you guys know, I was the black sheep of the family. And I really. I thought to start off, you know, fraud alert Friday, I thought, let me put myself out there and be judged. In 1994, after the Islanders were embarrassed by the Rangers in the first round, my parents had waited forever to see their team win a cup. I wanted them to win. The Rangers, that is, for them. It meant everything to them. And I feel like I might have been a fraud that spring, because that's the team I'm supposed to hate. I don't ever want them to win a cup, but because of how. Just every night, these poor people would sit on that couch, and it's like, my dad would work all day, he'd be exhausted, he'd be passed down the third period, and my mother would yell at him, wake up. It's a power play. Like, it's hilarious. What would happen in this living room? And I just was like, you know, beat the Devils, get to the cup, win a cup. This would be great. I'd love to see my parents enjoy this. Did that make me a frog?
- [36:07]
Don La Greca
Yes.
- [36:08]
CeCe Sabathia
Hit it.
- [36:13]
Peter Rosenberg
You just told Jimmy.
- [36:14]
CeCe Sabathia
I can't believe you used that.
- [36:16]
Peter Rosenberg
That is so good.
- [36:18]
Don La Greca
I'm not even gonna go. I'm just very happy that you use that. Use what?
- [36:25]
Carmelo Anthony
The.
- [36:26]
Don La Greca
The Sirens. But here's the deal. Your feelings for your parents didn't stop you from being an Islander fan to begin with. If you cared so much about their feelings, that would have never happened. So now, all of a sudden, you found religion.
- [36:40]
Peter Rosenberg
Later on, I was seven.
- [36:42]
Don La Greca
If. If. If you were not rooting for them but said, you know, what a positive byproduct of them winning is. My family's happy that I could tolerate it. But to sit there as an Islander, I wasn't. I mean, rooting for the rangers to have 1940 end.
- [37:03]
Peter Rosenberg
No, sorry.
- [37:04]
Don La Greca
Fraud.
- [37:04]
Peter Rosenberg
That wasn't happening. That wasn't happening. It was more or less just me enjoying their happiness, I think.
- [37:12]
Don La Greca
Happiness for parents, happiness for a fiance.
- [37:15]
Peter Rosenberg
Had a bottle of champagne.
- [37:17]
CeCe Sabathia
Listen, Donna, they had one.
- [37:19]
Don La Greca
I've spoken, so you are. You can take it up with the committee. I've spoken.
- [37:22]
CeCe Sabathia
Play the Siren one more time just to put a ball on. It's official. It's official.
- [37:27]
Don La Greca
It is official.
- [37:28]
CeCe Sabathia
That was the most wonderful first installment of Fraud Alert Friday. I loved it.
- [37:34]
Peter Rosenberg
Thanks for listening to the Don, Han and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.