Hour 2: Dave Rothenberg & Fraud Alert Friday

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg: Hour 2 – Dave Rothenberg & Fraud Alert Friday
Released on August 8, 2025

In this captivating episode of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg podcast, hosts Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, and Ty Butler dive deep into personal anecdotes, sports insights, and a unique segment titled "Fraud Alert Friday." Featuring special guest Dave Rothenberg, the conversation seamlessly blends humor, heartfelt stories, and sharp sports analysis.

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1. A Night to Forget: Dave Rothenberg’s Unforgettable Date

The episode opens with Ty Butler welcoming Dave Rothenberg, who shares a poignant story from 2002 about a disastrous date that left him "scammed" and ghosted.

Peter Rosenberg emphasizes the authenticity of Dave's experience:

"[02:10] Peter Rosenberg: Here's the thing. This was a real story. It was not made up."

Dave Rothenberg recounts the evening in detail, highlighting how a seemingly perfect dinner at Doc's on Second Avenue quickly unraveled:

"[05:52] Peter Rosenberg: [...] I put her in a car at, like, 2 o' clock, 1:30, 2 o' clock in the morning. So we're looking at six and a half, maybe even seven hours of date. And I gave her a nice kiss good night and I said, I'll call you tomorrow. And that was it."

The hosts express disbelief and sympathy, questioning how someone could invest so much time and then disappear without a trace. Dave humorously labels the behavior as "psychotic," prompting laughter and agreement from the group.

2. Serendipity and Second Chances: Meeting Sherry

Transitioning from the painful memory, Dave shares the serendipitous moment he met his future wife, Sherry, shortly after the failed date.

Ty Butler reflects on the luck of finding someone genuine:

"[14:36] Ty Butler: That's amazing. So this is really kismet. It's more. You're not giving enough credit to that."

Peter Rosenberg adds a touch of humor and relief, celebrating how fate intervened in Dave's love life:

"[15:03] Peter Rosenberg: [...] Saint Sherry, who enables you to having the psychotic fandom that you currently have."

Their heartfelt exchange underscores the importance of perseverance in personal relationships, turning a negative experience into a positive lifelong partnership.

3. Family Matters: Supporting the Next Generation

The conversation shifts to Dave's family, particularly his son’s upcoming journey into college sports.

Peter Rosenberg expresses pride and a hint of anxiety:

"[19:00] Peter Rosenberg: [...] Franklin and Marshall in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. [...] I don't know that I'm emotionally ready for it."

Ty Butler jokes about the challenges of being a supportive parent from afar:

"[19:12] Dave Rothenberg: So what happens if he has like a big time game on a Sunday at 1:00'? Clock?"

This segment highlights the universal experience of parents watching their children embark on new adventures, blending humor with genuine sentiment.

4. Balancing Work and Family: The Paternity Leave Debate

A lively discussion unfolds around paternity leave, with Ty advocating for extended time to bond with family.

Peter Rosenberg shares his support despite initial reservations:

"[27:14] Peter Rosenberg: [...] I'm thrilled that Peter is able to spend time with his family and that they're able to."

Ty Butler passionately argues for generous paternity leave policies, reflecting on his personal experiences:

"[28:05] Peter Rosenberg: [...] If I was 22, if I was one of those interns who couldn't even stick around for a piece of cake, I would definitely not take months of paternity leave."

The hosts debate the merits and challenges of extended paternity leave, emphasizing the importance of family bonding and workplace flexibility.

5. Sports Insights: Yankees and Aaron Boone’s Decisions

Shifting gears to sports, the trio analyzes recent developments with the New York Yankees and manager Aaron Boone's decisions regarding player Stanton.

Aaron Boone discusses Stanton’s potential role:

"[48:01] Aaron Boone: [...] We have the guy, we have the quarterback."

Dave Rothenberg critiques Boone’s strategy with playful skepticism:

"[51:05] Dave Rothenberg: I think they see enough of him in the outfield where they know that this is just not going to work."

The hosts debate Stanton's effectiveness on the field, blending analytical insights with lighthearted banter about team strategies and player performances.

6. Fraud Alert Friday: Calling Out Fan Injustices

The episode culminates with "Fraud Alert Friday," a segment where listeners submit questions challenging their fan loyalties.

Ty Butler opens the segment by inviting listeners to assess their own fandom authenticity:

"[33:03] Ty Butler: Can I just throw one more thing out there that. Because I always get buried for everything."

A caller named Cade from Utah questions whether his Kansas City Chiefs fandom is genuine or a "bandwagon" affair. The hosts, led by Peter and Dave, rule confidently:

"[37:54] Alan Hahn: Yeah, that's kind of been the consistent. That's how he's kind of ruled on these types of matters recently."
"[37:54] Alan Hahn: Yeah, that's been the consistent. That's how he's kind of ruled on these types of matters recently."

The segment blends humor with genuine reflections on sports loyalty, encouraging listeners to evaluate their true supporting instincts.

Conclusion: Reflecting on Relationships and Loyalty

As the episode draws to a close, the hosts engage in playful banter about social interactions and professional dynamics, reinforcing the podcast's blend of personal storytelling and sports commentary.

Peter Rosenberg wraps up with warm wishes:

"[27:03] Dave Rothenberg: [...] I look forward to that for you."

The episode seamlessly intertwines personal narratives with spirited discussions, offering listeners a rich and engaging experience that balances heartfelt moments with sharp sports insights.

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Notable Quotes:

• Peter Rosenberg [02:10]: "This was a real story. It was not made up."
• Dave Rothenberg [05:52]: "I gave her a nice kiss good night and I said, I'll call you tomorrow. And that was it."
• Ty Butler [14:36]: "That's amazing. So this is really kismet."
• Peter Rosenberg [27:14]: "I'm thrilled that Peter is able to spend time with his family."
• Aaron Boone [48:01]: "We have the guy, we have the quarterback."
• Ty Butler [33:03]: "Can I just throw one more thing out there."

This episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg masterfully navigates through personal stories, career insights, and engaging audience interactions, making it a must-listen for fans seeking both depth and entertainment.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Don Hahn]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

[Ty Butler]

All right, it is 401. Don Hahn and Rosenberg. Peter Rosenberg, Ty Butler, Don Legreca back next week. Yes, I'll be sad to see you go, Ty.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, you would not be sad. Yesterday you talked about how there he.

[Ty Butler]

Goes, here he goes into his full Alan Hahn sensitive zone. I didn't know this existed. But in spite of that, I'll still be sad to see you go.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, it's been a fun week. A different week.

[Ty Butler]

John Winthrop said it's been different. Well, let's stay with that because you want to get a big guest on a Friday. Some people would try to go get some faca like reporter who's been at camp somewhere or let's see what Jeff Passon has to say about the Yankees and Mets heading into the. No, I want to get the guy who had the most compelling thing to say on the radio all week long, and that is our friend Dave Rothenberg of DiPietro and Rothenberg who shared one of the most alarming stories I've ever heard. I just gave a pretty detailed version of it a few minutes ago about a seven or eight hour date that he went on that led to him never hearing from the woman again. Dave, thank you for joining us. It's Peter and Ty and I just have a bunch of questions for you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it's a pleasure. Thanks for having me. Yeah, it's nice to join you fine gentlemen on a summer Friday. So what can I provide for the show?

[Ty Butler]

All right, let's start with actual timeline. You've been with Sherry for 21 years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Might I say something before we start?

[Ty Butler]

Sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here's the thing. This was a real story. It was not made up. It was not an on air bit. It was a legitimate story. And then I was driving a little bit ago and I heard you guys discussing it like, well, this is garbage. And no, it's a true story. And if you'd like to discuss it.

[Ty Butler]

We never said it wasn't True.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What? But. No but, but I wanted.

[Ty Butler]

It's unbelievable.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm still taken seriously and I. And I don't want to be beaten over the head with it. Like I want to, I want to discuss it like gentlemen is what I'd like to do.

[Ty Butler]

No, we are, we are not going to be offensive.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ty Butler]

We're not going to be rude.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ty Butler]

I want to ask real questions. What year was this date?

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, so Sherry and I got married in 2004. So we met in November of O2. I'm guessing it was fall or summer of O2. It was, it was a girl that I attempted to date right before meeting Sherry.

[Ty Butler]

So 02, you're saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, so we're looking at a 23 year old passing of time since I went on the one date with this girl who I do. And I texted my buddy yesterday as I was telling the story. I believe I'm confident her name is Alison.

[Ty Butler]

And. Okay, how did you connect? What was the original connection?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I went to a, like a work happy hour for my friend and it was like a 5:30, you know, like advertising kind of a thing. And this girl was there and she was adorable. And I remember saying to like a co worker of my friends, like, I'm gonna take that girl out for drinks or dinner or something. And he's like, all right. So after the, After I had met her, he got the green light that he could give my number, give her number to me. And I got her number and I, I guess I probably. I don't remember if I. I probably called her, I would guess. And we set up a night to go out.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, wow. I'm impressed already. Let me just say that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Because he's got game.

[Ty Butler]

I didn't know you had.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't know I was a player. I mean, I got down with ladies back in the day. Absolutely.

[Ty Butler]

Is that true? I just can't picture.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I can't see it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I'm very well endowed.

[Ty Butler]

Well, that we know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. And that's a tremendous help and. Yeah, no, absolutely.

[Ty Butler]

It gives you the confidence.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tremendous confidence. And you know, I'm a big numbers guy. And my thought is if I'm gonna. If I just want to get to the plate and if I can get to the plate 50 times and I get 10 hits. Well, I'm hitting.200, but I'm still getting 10 hits.

[Ty Butler]

Now listen, hitting 200 in this league, that's. That's all right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get right to the hall of Fame.

[Ty Butler]

Straight to the hall of Fame. All right. So where, what restaurant do you guys go to?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So we went to and I really liked her. So I remember pushing for like a real date. So I took her and I think it's still there. Doc's on Second Avenue and like 40th Street. Do you know that place? It's like a seafood restaurant. And we sat there for. I think we met at seven. Now I'm making up the time. It's so long ago, I don't remember but like 7 to 10. It was one of those dates. Like the conversation was free flowing and it was uplifting and there was commonality and it was going swimmingly, beautifully. So much so that I remember when we finished eating and I said we can't and now let's go out for drinks. And she's like, absolutely. So she was so into it and I heard you guys say this and I was a little bit bothered and Peter, I think you're going to be like minded with me. There's no way I would want to spend six or seven hours with someone I wasn't interested in just to use them for food and drink. I mean I would.

[Ty Butler]

That's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's crazy.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, you like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Dave, no one would do that. That's psychotic behavior. No one would.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I'm saying no one would do that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No one would do that.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I'm telling you. I know experience.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That is psychotic behavior. There is nothing I would rather do less than spend time with someone I have no interest in spending time with.

[Dave Rothenberg]

That's you man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't care if they're pasting caviar on plates in front of me. I'm not sitting there for six hours talking to someone I have no interest to talk to. None.

[Ty Butler]

But Dave, just the same way many people would think it's insane to not bring their wife to the hospital when she temperature of 1.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Frowned upon. By the way, the fact that I stand for in this day and age, the way society is currently set up, the fact that I stand for something and I get destroyed for it is embarrassing for us as a station.

[Ty Butler]

That's a hell of a take. But, but I'm just. I agree with you that it's insane, but that doesn't mean people don't do it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, well you know what? Then she, then she wins. Like, like if that was her, if that was her idea and her goal is listen. But no, here's what I want to get swordfish and a cup of coffee and a few drinks and then she wins, then good for her.

[Ty Butler]

You're right. You're right. But. But there's more to glean from this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ty Butler]

What. What happened the next day. So the date happens. You said you. You kissed her goodnight. Was it. Was it on the lips?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, it was. It was tongue involved too. It was a good kiss.

[Ty Butler]

So you slobbed her down right there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I slobbed her down. And here's the thing. I was such a gentleman. And then I get like, renunciate like. Well, she. You should have just brought her back to your place and had sex with it. That's not what I want. Oh, he's an animal.

[Ty Butler]

Jordan Renan. Trust me, I know. I know guys at Maryland like Jordan Renan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what I wanted to do.

[Ty Butler]

He's disgusting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got like Raymond and RJ and I hear Jacob, who I'm not very fond of, by the way, anymore. I like, obviously, you know, he didn't want to seal the deal. I didn't want to seal the deal. I really liked her. I didn't want to bring it back to my apartment, have sex with her. I wanted to actually build something with this girl. Right.

[Dave Rothenberg]

All right.

[Ty Butler]

I feel you.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Let me ask you something real quick. So you're tongue in her down. You grab some booty.

[Ty Butler]

Whoa. Oh.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because not everybody's run, Jeremy. Okay? That's what you don't understand, Ty. You're in it for the quickness. You're in it for the. Give me five minutes. I'm done. Go home. I don't care if I see you again. I wanted to. He was building something I was in.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Okay, clearly you were building something. Clearly she wasn't. But let's go back to date itself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Dave Rothenberg]

The date itself, now that you look back on it and I get it was 23 years ago. So it's hard to have like, recollection. Was there anything that happened that you now look back on? Was that red flag, like something thrown off?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. So. So we went from the restaurant to a bar and I think it was the. I think it was the Morgan Library over on Madison Avenue and went there as a cool spot. And we drank and we're hanging out and the arm goes around her and it's like close talking and it was lovely. Right.

[Ty Butler]

And like Lonnie from the company.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Exactly like that. Yeah, it was that. It wasn't that close, but it was.

[Ty Butler]

She put her hand on your shoulder.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, I know, I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Breathing right down my face. Yes. It was just much like that. So. And I think that was from like a. I don't know, like a 10:30. By the time we walked there, like, maybe 11:00 clock to, like, 1:30. And then I remember she says, here's the thing. I gotta go, because I think the last train's at, like 1:49. And I was having such a great time. I said, no, no, no. I said, here's what we're gonna do. Because it's also. It's a woman. You want to make sure that she's safe, right?

[Ty Butler]

I said, of course.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let me. Let me put you in a car. There's no Uber, so we had to, like, grab a taxi. I said, I'll put you in a car and I'll pay for it. She's like, no, no, I don't. I was like, no, it's fine. I'm having a great time. I don't want the night to end. And she's like, great, let's do that. So I put her in a car at, like 2 o', clock, 1:30, 2 o' clock in the morning. So we're looking at six and a half, maybe even seven hours of date. And I gave her a nice kiss good night and I said, I'll call you tomorrow. And that was it. And at that moment was the last time I ever spoke with this woman ever.

[Ty Butler]

So. So, okay, I have a couple more questions. First, I want to say that this is so fascinating because, like, I'm not gonna lie here. I've absolutely been blown off before in a way that's, like, flabbergasting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This was epic, though.

[Ty Butler]

Like, you're, you're, you're texting and it's all good. Then all of a sudden, the person, like, literally disappears.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, the live odds, peter, were like minus 5,000 at a second would happen.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, yeah, by the way. Exactly. If you were. If you were, it was minus 5,000 for a second date, certainly. And actually, I would say it would say never hear from her again. It was like plus.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Plus 18,000. Those charts were like, when the percentage that a team would win when they're up by eight runs and that you're in the ninth inning was 99.97%. That's what this was.

[Ty Butler]

So then what happened the next day?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The next day?

[Ty Butler]

Just take us through what happened.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, so I called her voicemail because.

[Ty Butler]

Again, this is 2002. So today that would have been a text, probably, but back then it's a call.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not a current dater, so I don't know exactly how it's played today, but, yeah, 2002, I believe I called her voicemail message, you know, and that. And that's that. And then. And then a few days went by.

[Ty Butler]

Hey, it's Dave, the guy who. Down on the street. We hung out for hours. I spent hundreds of dollars. Give me a call.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not $225.

[Ty Butler]

That's a lot in 2000. That's the equivalent today of, like, a $500 date.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, so $225. And I was happy to do it. Right, okay, so. Left a message. Yeah. No response for how I. Like a. I think the date was a Thursday. So now we're probably talking. I called Friday weekend. Goes by Monday. Second call. Hey, you know what? Follow up. I didn't hear back. I guess you're busy this weekend. Can't wait to catch up again, you know, Give me a call when you can. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[Ty Butler]

And at that point, you gave up. You punted.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I didn't, because I was. I was in it. I was invested. A. I was highly curious because I was.

[Ty Butler]

All right, so. Because I assume at this point, Shawn Lindetta is walking out on the field.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Wait.

[Ty Butler]

And we're punting.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But you have the mutual friend, so.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There'S a way to get contact. So now. But I also don't want to be this, like, weirdo who has to call the friend. Like, hey, it's a. Listen, I called her two times. She didn't respond. Can you get involved? I didn't want to be that guy. So I gave a third call.

[Dave Rothenberg]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

On the Thursday, which is now one full week later. And I think I was like, listen, I don't know if something's happened or where you're now living, but, you know, I haven't heard from you. I hope everything's okay. Nothing. And finally I got in touch with the mutual friend, and I said, what is going on? And he goes, yeah, I talked to her. She's just not really interested in you. And I was like, how is this. How is it possible? How could that be? Like, I was. I was scammed.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I told you. You were scared. I was scammed up for the next two.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She used me for a martini.

[Dave Rothenberg]

She used you for. For food.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Dave Rothenberg]

For drinks. And she met up with the next dude, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Probably. You know what? Probably so.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But Dave. Wow. So there. But there's no chance that the kiss threw her off? Like. Like, you guys were both, like, in on the kid? Like, I'm just trying to understand.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, I didn't. I didn't sit there and do forensic evidence, but she leaned into the kiss and the kiss went on from. It wasn't like she pulled.

[Ty Butler]

No, it wasn't two seconds.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was. It was a real kiss. In fact, it was. It was a long enough kiss that I remember the driver being like.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I mean, are you a bad kisser?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm a great kisser. A beautiful, succulent, soft lips. No, I don't know what it was, Ty. I don't have an answer.

[Ty Butler]

I really appreciate that. The way this story was told at the beginning, Dave set us up to say no one would ever just use someone. But the whole story lands on he in fact found out and accepts that she obviously did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, what an insane thing. I still can't fathom that someone would be so. So juvenile and. And. And embarrassing that they would do something like. I still. I can't believe it. Because, Peter, you tell me if I told you you're going to get a great meal and a couple of phenomenal drinks, but you don't have to hang out with someone for seven hours that you have zero interest in. Are you doing that?

[Ty Butler]

I would not know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You would never do it, Ty, would you do it?

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, I wouldn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You would never do it. So she obviously needs a lot of therapy and she's a psychotic.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So. Look, you dodged the bullet, right? Yeah, you dodged the bullet.

[Ty Butler]

Think about it. That woman could have been with you and years later ruined your life. You know, just made it. Just done something. And you would have been stuck with child support. Everything's different. Instead, you meet the saint of a woman, Saint Sherry, who enables you to having the psychotic fanship that you currently.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Have and welcomes it. And my date right after that was with Sherry when we went on our first date. And I remember.

[Ty Butler]

That's amazing. So this is really kismet. It's more. You're not giving enough credit to that. It's amazing. Like it made no sense. You can't even. Maybe God intervened.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe. Maybe Hudson was involved in the whole thing. I don't know. But I remember going out with Sherry and saying, okay, here's the deal. We went. Do you remember this place, Peter? Upper west side?

[Ty Butler]

I don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think it's in existence anymore. The Evelyn Lounge. Do you ever hear that place?

[Ty Butler]

I've heard of the Evelyn Lounge, sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So we went to the Evelyn Lounge. We met up, and we're sitting there having great conversation. But now I'm thinking to myself, is this really a great conversation? Because maybe it's not. Maybe it's gonna be another scenario where we have great What I think is great conversation. And then I get ghosted. So I remember at about 10 o', clock, I said to Sherry, here's the deal now, all right? I was just scarred and burned with my last date. So once the clock strikes 11, if you're still here with me and this date is continuing, you are now obligated if I so choose for a second date. And she said, yeah. What kind of a lunatic will go after someone for three hours and wouldn't call them back? And I was like, exactly.

[Ty Butler]

And by the way, another footnote to the story that you can't overlook is that, like, we can all make a lot of jokes about Dave. You know, his inability to throw a football normally or swing a baseball bat or all the things we say. Say whatever you want. We know for a fact that Sherry is a beautiful woman.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Beautiful.

[Ty Butler]

And he's saying that the right before he was out with another smoke show. So, like. And by the way, Dave, did you even have any success at this point in 2002? What were you even doing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, my grandmother had a talk with Sherry the night of the wedding and said, listen, I hope you really love him because he's amounted to very little to this point, and I don't know what we're gonna get out of him at all.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Wait, so can we go back to this conversation you had on the date with this lady?

[Ty Butler]

You really.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're still.

[Ty Butler]

You're still not.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Because when Dave has regular conversation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Is he throwing in, like, a weird. This guy go to college?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no.

[Ty Butler]

Wait, wait, wait. So you think she's saying something? It's 2002. So she's like, you think?

[Peter Rosenberg]

She says, like, so I went to Boston College with Matt Hasselbeck. And I'm like, yeah, Matt, Tim, Boston College. I know it. Thank you. Like, you think, no, no, no. I think.

[Ty Butler]

I think, no, he does it with everything. So she was like, oh, my God, my favorite actress is that new actress, Tara Reid.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he's like, tara Reid, American Pie. And she had a botched boom job. You think I just jump into that? Yeah. I don't know. She was in Van Wilder. You think I. You thinking now I go off on a tangent.

[Ty Butler]

See that? That's the part that I think Ty's concerned about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You could be social. To be honest, I understand why you might have that concern. But seven hours, like, once you commit seven hours, it's like a verbal contract. You say, I want a second date.

[Dave Rothenberg]

If I'm giving you seven, turn it into an opportunity. I understand that. You could be socially awkward.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, you could be very. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a wonderful conversational.

[Ty Butler]

You know, that's an interesting list for the station is the order of social awkwardness at the station. That's a. That's a fun.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You can say what you want. There is no way I'm at the Mount Rushmore of social station.

[Ty Butler]

We know. Don is Mount Rush. Don is Mount Rush.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don would be in one of the prime spots, I think.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, I think. I know. I think Don's. Washington, maybe Jefferson. Yes, it's. It's. Considering Don is one of the most sweet and lovely people I've ever known, it's jarring. I think it's underrated that, like, even though he will be nice to people, for sure, that's the only. He only knows how to be nice to people, but he will kind of avoid it. Like he doesn't want to be around people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's not a people person.

[Ty Butler]

He's not.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But can we come up with four people at the station that are socially awkward? Socially awkward?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think there is. I don't think you are, Ty.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, I think.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I guess you think I am, but I don't really think I am.

[Ty Butler]

Well, you know, we're gonna have a chance, by the way. So have you been roped into doing this live game cast that we're doing?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Roped in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Ty Butler]

You haven't heard about this yet?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've been roped in.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, it's not. It's not announced yet. Okay, well, I'll wait for the big advertising.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If it were to happen, I. Yes, I.

[Ty Butler]

Once Budweiser. Once Budweiser comes on for the sponsorship, Dave, we'll do a big reveal at halftime. But. So this was the end and you married Sherry. End of the day, here we are.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right. 21 years later. Right. We've been married for 21 and a half years now. Couldn't be happier. Two amazing children.

[Ty Butler]

And your son is going to play college sports.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Franklin and Marshall in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. That's right. He go. He goes in 10 days. And I don't know that I'm emotionally ready for it, but he leaves soon.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So what happens if he has like a big time game on a Sunday at 1:00'? Clock?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, Tyler, let me ask you a question. Does football get played in March and April?

[Dave Rothenberg]

I mean, come on, Dave. Do we. Do we have to be condescending?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I mean, you asked me a question. Which doesn't make sense. The base. The baseball season starts in March.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Well, he makes it okay, but. Okay, Dave, he makes it to the, to the major leagues and there's some.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then, and then they play in December.

[Dave Rothenberg]

They're playing. Come on, Dave.

[Ty Butler]

No, what about September?

[Dave Rothenberg]

September, baseball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here's the thing, I'll say. All right, here's the thing. I'll say.

[Ty Butler]

Here's what he will say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The major leagues, they would provide a suite for the. Like the dad whose kid is just getting called up. I'll watch his game and all the games in a suite at the stadium.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But what if they don't provide set suite?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, you know what? Then let's cross that bridge when we get there. I don't envision him donning a major league uniform at any point in the future. And if he does, I will be at almost every game I can get to of his.

[Ty Butler]

As long as the Giants aren't playing. What division is Franklin Marshall?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Centennial Conference.

[Ty Butler]

What division though? D what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

D 3. The power of the Centennial Conference is Johns Hopkins. That is the division.

[Ty Butler]

I'm very impressed.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he's a terrific. He was.

[Ty Butler]

I'm very impressed. That offspring of yours.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't understand. And this is what perplexes me about the. To you, I mean just the stories that I can enlighten people with have carried your show today for the most part, why you would have me on as a guest.

[Ty Butler]

That's an interesting way of looking at.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It and be nasty towards me.

[Ty Butler]

How is that? You're telling me, hold on. You're telling me, by the way, your wife was a Division 1 athlete, right? You're telling me you don't think it worked out well for you that someone of your ability has an offspring that's going to play college sports?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're not. You don't go, wow, that are going to wind up playing college sports.

[Ty Butler]

I believe your younger is also going.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He'S a great lacrosse player.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Lacrosse, right?

[Ty Butler]

Oh, that's right, lacrosse. Hopefully better at lacrosse than choosing football.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jerseys, you know, but I knew that was an issue at the time. I was like, you want a Darren Waller jersey? And he said, yes. Darren Waller jersey, by the way. Let me ask you this, Peter. Did you ever get a thank you note for that Darren Waller jersey?

[Ty Butler]

I think I did, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How about that, huh? A thank you note, by the way.

[Ty Butler]

That was an interesting thing. We just brought up one of the great gifts that a friend has ever given a friend's child for a bar mitzvah. And rather than going wow, that was a remarkable gift. He then flips it back to the fact that I didn't send him a thank you note. You couldn't even live in the moment of the lovely gift. Which by the way, a gift that was completely wasted. And you should have been a strong.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Authority figure with you at all.

[Ty Butler]

I said to the kids, what happened to the jersey?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peter wants to give you a beautiful Giants jersey. What do you want? And he's like, I really want a Waller jersey. I was like, okay, well. And I said, did you push back? I said, don't you think someone that you know, like Andrew Thomas or someone you know is going to be here for four years? No, I want Waller. And so I was like, okay, listen, if that's what you want. I think.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I think it's a mistake parenting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it's not bad parenting.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And you call yourself a big giant.

[Ty Butler]

You should not have allowed that. By the way, be honest. What even happened to the jersey?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm sure it's in his closet, but.

[Ty Butler]

It couldn't have even gotten worn. Did it ever get worn?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think it was ever been worn. I don't think it's good faith. What the Giants should do is have like those things when the guy gets traded away and they accept it to be traded in. And we should be allowed to trade that in for like a blue jersey.

[Ty Butler]

He got. That would be a nice one. He got the. This is the white and red. Oh, it's beautiful. Throwback. It's the. It's the. $330. Authentic to the highest level. Authentic I've never had. No one has given me a jersey gift. It's gorgeous.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Waller. Waller. Yeah. It was one. It was one of the worst decisions he's ever made, but it was.

[Ty Butler]

Listen, two. You're going to have two college athletes in the house.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I believe that's. That's accurate. Yes.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Before you go, Dave, I gotta. I gotta sneak this in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I don't want to say excitement, but like emotion, emotionally. Where are you with this whole Jackson dart starting in week one of the preseason? Like, how do you feel about it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, I'm excited. See, preseason's so weird, right? Because you know what you'll do if he goes out there and he's great? Oh, my God. We have. We have the guy, we have the quarterback. But in essence that's not true. You don't know. And if he goes out there and he's terrible, you know what the excuse will be? It's preseason, right? He's supposed to have these growing pains. So I'm casually, I'm excited to watch him play and I'm not going to get too high or too low and hopefully he'll look good and hopefully at some point he'll play this season and he'll be the future quarterback. But no, you take whatever he does tomorrow in Buffalo with a complete grain of salt.

[Ty Butler]

Couldn't agree with you more. Did you feel any satisfaction seeing that? Of course. Daniel Jones line. Last night was the most Daniel Jones line of all time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I mean, I think this is probably unfair and unfounded, but I have an amazing ability to hate players that are no longer on my team that have not accomplished what I hope they would accomplish. So I know it's a very little thing to say, but I wish failure for all the players that have once.

[Ty Butler]

Played for, including Daniel Jones, in spite of the fact that he was a class act.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, no, I don't care about class or not. No Daniel Jones, Saquon, Barkley, you name it. I will avidly.

[Dave Rothenberg]

How do you feel about my, my prediction that the Giants will beat the Commanders Week 1?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think it's crazy. I don't think now I think beat them might be aggressive, but I know the line is 7 and I feel bullish on the Giants to cover that number. I think, I think I like this game.

[Ty Butler]

I saw it yesterday at six and a half. I don't disagree with that. Like, I, I'm not. Let me tell you this. When we make Our picks week one, I'm not picking the Commanders at 7A division game. These teams always play within three points.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think the Giants defense should be like guys really good.

[Ty Butler]

I mean so you don't, you don't think it's getting overhyped?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're confident? No, I mean, walk it through with me. Dexter Lawrence is a star player, right? One of the best defensive linemen of football. I don't, I don't think cave on Thibodeau is great, but Kayvon Thibodeau as a third option rushing, it might be great. Burns is really good. Okay. Abdul Carter, Everything I've heard and I was at practice the other day is freakish. And you know, you hate to throw out like a Micah Parsons, but it feels like we're heading in that early. I get it in that direction. Linebackers are good. There's depth to this defense. The secondary is far better than what it's been in the past. If the Giants defense is not top 10 in the NFL, something has gone terribly wrong. This Year.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, they are very good, particularly up front. Dave, you're tremendous. You brought a lot to the show today and we love you dearly. Good luck sending your boy off to college next week. That's gonna be very, very challenging. I wish you the best with it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I appreciate it. Now, Ty, am I joining you in the morning for a quick little hit during your show?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Don't try to do what that woman did to you. To me. You're still joining me tomorrow morning.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What are you talking about? I was trying to promote it, Tyler.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Okay. I just want to make sure.

[Ty Butler]

You thought he was trying to get out of it.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Let your way out of it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did I not say, am I joining you for. For what? I thought you'd respond of yes. Big spot with you in the morning. With me instead, have this. This bit of nastiness, which, like old times, unfounded.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And that's exactly what it is, Anthony. It's like old times.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, I'll be home. This sounds great. You guys have fun.

[Dave Rothenberg]

We will do the Saturday show together just like we used to do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I look forward to that. I love you all. I wish you guys nothing but a great rest of the summer. And I will talk to you in the morning. Ty and Peter, I hear you have another vacation coming. I'm envious of you. I look forward to that for you.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Wait, quickly, quickly. Dave, in like 10 seconds, your thoughts on him having a month long paternity leave.

[Ty Butler]

Well, this is an interesting. I'm curious to see where Dave's gonna go here because everyone seems to feel strongly about this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I'm very much a proponent of bonding with family and spending time with family. And I remember like the days of like Daniel Murphy took two days off when he had a baby and I was like, how could he take two days off? What kind of guy is this? No, I mean, yeah, you have a new child and. And you should be bonding and spending time now. I'll be. I mean, you want me to be honest or do you want me to like. I can only be honest. I apologize for that. Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

You only have one speed. Only have one gear.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A month feels like a very long time to me, but I'm. No, I'm being sincere. I'm thrilled that Peter. Because this is. You never get this time back. And I'm thrilled that Peter is able to spend time with his family and that they're able to.

[Ty Butler]

And I waited a long. And I waited a long time for this first one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I don't judge him. I don't think and by the way, can I get straight.

[Ty Butler]

Can I just throw one more thing out there that. Because I always get buried for everything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ty Butler]

Just to be clear, I took. I was off for like two weeks in the winter and then we were, you know, it was the beginning of a new thing. And I threw the Knicks playoff run. Nothing. I stayed, stayed, stayed. And I waited till the dead of summer.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I tried my best and it's never time. You can, you can duplicate. You'll never get it back. So I think it's great. What I do find curious is that you take a month long sabbatical from the show, which is wonderful. You're back for like a minute and then. And now you're taking vacation time. So I find that to be curious. But I don't begrudge you. Good for you. You know what? You got a hell of an agent and you're a tremendous talent. And I don't.

[Ty Butler]

Look, I want to tell you that, but I have big news for you, Dave. I have big news for you. Should you and Sherry say, you know what, empty house, it's time to run this thing back, I would do it again. And by the way, you would get three months. We get 12. We get 12 weeks. Paternity leave with Disney. We work for a wonderful, wonderful company. And as long as you use it, Dave, during the first year, 12 weeks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I might have a child just to get the 12 weeks.

[Ty Butler]

That's what I'm saying. Why would we not? So, Dave, I had, I had the choice of when I die, have these moments of incredible moments in France with my baby or complaining about the exact same thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. Aaron Boone doesn't know how to handle a bullpen.

[Ty Butler]

Honestly, that really Aaron Boone of the bullpen. Did I really miss out on anything?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You made the right. You made the right show. I defended you for taking that time off. I find it curious that there's another. Did I hear you going back to Europe?

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, one more time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I tell you what, Ty. When I come back, if there's an afterlife when I come back, I'm coming back as Peter. Man. He's got a good thing going.

[Ty Butler]

Love you, buddy. Thanks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Bye, guys.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, man, he's awesome.

[Ty Butler]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Ty Butler]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Did you or someone you know participate in fraudulent fan behavior?

[Ty Butler]

I'm a fraud with a capital F.

[Don Hahn]

Is your friend a fraud?

[Ty Butler]

I have been a complete and utter fraud.

[Don Hahn]

Are you a fraud?

[Alan Hahn]

What is fraud?

[Don Hahn]

Let's ask Dom McGregor.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Screw.

[Ty Butler]

Go scratch yourself. What's flawed? Oh, that was fun with Dave Rothenberg. Hope you guys enjoyed that. Welcome to Fraud Friday. On this beautiful Friday, August 8th. Let's get right into it. You can send your emails to dhrespn. Sorry, dhrespnmail.com. i should say threspnmail.com. you know how Fraud Friday works, right?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

We'll rule. And we'll do our best to live in the way Don legreca would want us to. If you were. If he were still with us.

[Dave Rothenberg]

If. Has he passed?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Ty Butler]

On the show.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Okay. I thought something happened. No, no, no. About.

[Ty Butler]

No. Although I got to tell you, like, I. I think those guys are so done with me, I haven't heard a word.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, they. I'm telling you, once you left the group chat, that was it.

[Ty Butler]

And by the way, the. Here's the messed up part. I am completely confident that group chat is still active.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

And I'm just not in it.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I think it was a bit aggressive to start the morning with, guys, I don't think I can do this anymore. I'm out. And you just dip from the group chat. Could have been phrased differently. As we're learning this week, there are a lot of things that you say and do that can be presented.

[Ty Butler]

Or maybe what we're learning is that.

[Dave Rothenberg]

The world too soft.

[Ty Butler]

The world is really soft now. What was the line I said again, Anthony? I said, I can't do it. I'm out. Was that all I said?

[Dave Rothenberg]

I'll be honest, guys. I. I don't think I can do.

[Ty Butler]

Is that what it was?

[Dave Rothenberg]

I'm a be honest guy.

[Ty Butler]

Let's see. I want to love you guys, but.

[Alan Hahn]

I may leave this chat for a while. A normal person could do it, but I can't also make you also make fun of yourself.

[Ty Butler]

Right. But I didn't even give a warning of like, hey, guys, today's officially the first day of my vacation. No.

[Alan Hahn]

And then you left five seconds later.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And I'm telling you, bro, that Peter Rosenberg left the conversation part.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, it hits hard.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Super dramatic.

[Ty Butler]

No, I hit super hard. But by the way, I 100 did the right thing to leave both of the chats. I know I did. For me, it made a difference but that setup, like, I rushed so much. Like, why did I have to rush? I couldn't have, like, let people respond.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I just says, let them know, like, hey, once I leave, you know, once I go on paternity leave, I'll leave a chat. I'll be back in person conversation.

[Ty Butler]

I didn't know people would get so said.

[Dave Rothenberg]

This comes right after Anthony sends the long text.

[Alan Hahn]

The long text is strong. Now that's like a three sentence thing.

[Ty Butler]

Now this is, this is really like.

[Alan Hahn]

Hey, guys, Yankees lost, Mets win, NFL pinch. Peter's like, I'm out. I can't do that.

[Ty Butler]

I can't take it anymore.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I miss when it used to be longer.

[Ty Butler]

Thank you. We'll hear that at six o'.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Clock. You got to get back today.

[Ty Butler]

All right, guys. My name is Cade and I'm from Utah. As a kid growing up, I loved baseball and didn't really find another any other sport interesting. As I grew older, I started liking football and I gravitated towards the Kansas City Chiefs. Reason being because all that time, at that time, Alex Smith, Utah alum, which is the college I root for, was the starting quarterback, Andy Reid, Brigham Young University alum head coach. I didn't keep up with how the team was doing at the time that much. And when asked what's my favorite team, I would say something like the Chiefs. I guess as I got older, I watched them and kept up more and more and grew to like them more and more. Now with the dynasty, when people ask me who my team is, I tell them Chiefs boldly. And they tell me I'm a bandwagon fan. But I want to hear from you guys, am I a fraud Chiefs fan? I am going to rule, and I feel pretty confident Don would rule the same. No fraud.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You know what's challenging about this? It's not even the dynasty. It's the fact that when she started rooting for Kansas City, they were a perennial playoff team with Alex Smith. Now, the joke was they could not win a playoff game with him, but they were a perennial playoff.

[Ty Butler]

They were pretty good.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So that makes it difficult, but that.

[Ty Butler]

The Utah connection is strong and random. And who else would you root for coming from Utah, you know what I mean? All they did was adjust from the Chiefs, I guess, to Chiefs.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But now, now declaring it boldly when before was just like, you know, but he didn't go anywhere, I guess.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, but you didn't go anywhere. Listen, it's. I'm not saying it's not close, but hit the gavel. I'm Going to go, no fraud. I'd be curious to bring that back for Don. I think it's a no fraud. Anthony, you agree Don would go, no fraud.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's kind of been the consistent. That's how he's kind of ruled on these types of matters recently.

[Ty Butler]

Here's one. A Victor writes us and says, hey, guys, I'm asking for a friend. I had my kids 28 years ago, and 22 years ago, we did not have paternity leave during that time. Can I retroactively take my paternity to leave now and qualify for two months of vacation?

[Alan Hahn]

I believe that's insurance fraud.

[Dave Rothenberg]

That's pretty good.

[Ty Butler]

That is fraud. All right.

[Dave Rothenberg]

By the way, hit the button.

[Ty Butler]

That's fraud.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Someone hit me up saying that they get six months of paternity leave. Manny Fresh.

[Ty Butler]

The whole paternity leave thing is funny because I totally would make fun of someone too, because you're just kind of, like, jealous and like, why are you leaving? But it was the best thing ever. And it's the idea. Like, If I was 22, if I was one of those interns who couldn't even stick around for a piece of cake, I would definitely not take months of paternity leave. But, guys, I'm not a spring chicken. I've been in the business for over 20 years. Like, it's time.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Okay, Because I was gonna ask you if Anthony has a baby and he decides he's taking a month off of paternity leave if you're not roasting him.

[Ty Butler]

Given that I know what the producers make in our business, if Anthony took anything less than the three months, I'd be so angry at him, I wouldn't speak to him.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, okay. So you went the other way.

[Ty Butler]

The complete other way. These people in our industry, the non. The only people who are paid even half decently are talent, if you're lucky these days. So, no, I. If Anthony is lucky enough to have a child and he qualifies for that, you're a full time Disney employee, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Last I checked, yeah, you better take that.

[Ty Butler]

Three months, don't even come back and maybe spread it out.

[Dave Rothenberg]

He said, last I checked. Yeah, well, I mean, they'll switch it up on you.

[Ty Butler]

I don't think so.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I just knock you from full time.

[Ty Butler]

No, he doesn't know if he was fired today could all be over.

[Alan Hahn]

We have no idea.

[Ty Butler]

I mean, I can't believe I asked the interns. It's Anthony's birthday. You guys want to sing Happy Birthday? I was like, he's the best, right? He deserves it. They're like, oh, yeah, he's the best. That sounds great. I walk away. They literally just go. I just spit all over the thumbs down and walk out of the building.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I gotta show you the Chris Paul gift because.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, that's what happened.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's exactly what happened.

[Ty Butler]

All right. Good morning. Having grown up in the Bronx in the late 60s, I was 8 years old. Yeah, that's it. That was them. I was eight years old in 1970. There was never a doubt that I'd be a Yankee fan as well as, like my dad, a Rangers, Knicks and Giants fan. But while that precluded me from ever being a fan of the Mets in MLB, despite their wild popularity starting in 69 or later, the new Islanders, things got much murky given the existence of completely separate football and basketball leagues. So it was possible to root, for example, for both the NBA Knicks and the ABA Nets.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Ty Butler]

The NFL Giants and the AFL Jets. The NHL Rangers and the wha Raiders Golden Blades. A team that. I couldn't tell you existed if you had a gun pointed at my face.

[Dave Rothenberg]

They could walk in here right now.

[Ty Butler]

With a jersey and I'd go, oh, cool. The Oakland Raiders made a hockey jersey. Good for them. That's cool, man. In the words of Don Lagreca, meeting Ed Crane pool as his cab driver, that's cool, man. You played for the Mets. By the time I was 10, I started gravitating to the new leagues. So when the merger started happening, although I rooted for both, I knew I had to choose my teams. Ultimately, I chose the Nets in basketball and the jets in football. He wrote great calls right there. So there was never a doubt who my four teams now were. But I also never had any reason for antipathy towards the Giants and Knicks and still follow them closely, while I obviously active rooted against the Mets and Islanders. So to this day, I have no trouble having a rooting interest for the Knicks and Giants. Over the years, once the Nets and Jets were out of contention, which obviously has been most of the time. Am I a fraud for never completely disavowing the Knicks and Giants once the leagues merged?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, fraud. Come on.

[Ty Butler]

By the way, I could never act against Buck Showalter after what he and Stick Michael did for the Yankees.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Stop it. Fraud.

[Ty Butler]

You're calling it right now.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Once the. What do you say? Once the the Nets and the jets are done, he's rooting for the Knicks and the Giants.

[Ty Butler]

If the Nets and Jets are out, he will pull for the Knicks and Giants because.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I agree.

[Ty Butler]

Everyone's in.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So 2022 he rooting for the Giants in that playoff game against both the Vikings and the Eagles.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. Maybe that's why they lost so bad to the Eagles. Yes, Jacob.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I mean I get it that he ate, you know, different leagues and everything, but according to Don, at some point in his life he had to choose.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

And he still hasn't. He's a grown adult old man. He is not chosen. So hit the gavel again. Fraud.

[Dave Rothenberg]

There we go.

[Ty Butler]

That will do it for fraud. Friday on this Friday, August 8th dhrespnmail.com.

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Ty Butler]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ty Butler]

One of the greatest feats of all time. There's no question.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Weather report, Real quick.

[Ty Butler]

Yes, please.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Time now for the weekend Weather Report brought to you by Schaeferhofer. A solid weather weekend tomorrow, Sunny, high of 83. Okay. Sunday, partly cloudy, high of 87. That was the weekend Weather Report brought to you by Schaefferhoffer Group. Here comes the happy, yo. The show is flying by, man.

[Ty Butler]

That's what good shows do.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Different shows.

[Ty Butler]

By the way, you think Lonnie from the company's gonna be mad that me and Dave made a Lonnie joke?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Nah, it's out of love.

[Ty Butler]

I know it is.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's out of love.

[Ty Butler]

But do you think he's tight about it?

[Dave Rothenberg]

I don't think so. He can't be that sensitive. Lonnie's not gonna be sensitive. He knows how it goes, Radio man.

[Ty Butler]

To me, the cool part, the honor, is that, like, you get talked about when you're not even calling to the show.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, I would appreciate that. I can't be mad at Dave and Rosenberg, who obviously have some affection for Lonnie. You can't be mad at that.

[Ty Butler]

I wouldn't think so.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Afternoon drive getting. Getting a nice big up.

[Ty Butler]

By the way, I'm told it's pouring down here.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Right now, driving to this studio. Yeah, it started pouring on and it's back and I'm in a rental, so I got nervous. You know, you're always nervous driving a rental.

[Ty Butler]

No, I'm not.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, really? No, I get excited.

[Ty Butler]

I was just driving a rental around France in the Alps.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I get nervous driving a rental.

[Ty Butler]

Why?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Because you just feel like, of course something would happen.

[Ty Butler]

I never looked in my.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I don't even know I should be saying this.

[Ty Butler]

It's not in your name.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's not in my name.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, it's like your dad's. It's your father in law's rental.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah. Feds might be tapped in.

[Ty Butler]

Fed's got a lot of free time, I guess. All right, let's. Let's get to this audio we have. This is some fascinating Stuff about your New York Yankees right now. Aaron Boone spoke. He was asked, will we see Stanton in the field?

[Aaron Boone]

Good chance you could see it tomorrow from ber. Going tomorrow for Houston. You know, we'll see how. Assuming today goes, he'll do some work out there today, and then the thought would be probably getting him out there tomorrow.

[Ty Butler]

Okay. And how has he looked so far, Stanton?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Good. Good.

[Aaron Boone]

And, you know, more importantly, like, when I talk to him, just how he thinks it's going and. And does he feel like he can go out there and be representative and stuff like that? Those are more of my conversations. And Gee's usually brutally honest in those situations, so I think he's feeling good about where he's at and the week he's had out there. Talking to Louie feels like it's gone better each time, so hopefully get through today and have it in play tomorrow.

[Ty Butler]

And lastly, how's he moving in the outfield?

[Aaron Boone]

Yeah, I should.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He.

[Ty Butler]

He.

[Aaron Boone]

Look, he's. He's. He's. He's always been a quality outfielder. It's just some range is going to be limited, obviously, but I do feel like he'll, you know, make the plays that need to be made.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Can we play the beginning of that cut one more time?

[Aaron Boone]

Yeah, I should.

[Ty Butler]

He.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He.

[Aaron Boone]

Look, he's. He's. He's always been a quality outfielder.

[Ty Butler]

Let me start. Stop it again.

[Aaron Boone]

He's going to be limited, obviously.

[Ty Butler]

Stop it again. Hold on. I'm gonna have you play it again. If, if, if, if. If your wife came up to you and said, where were you last night?

[Aaron Boone]

Yeah, look, he's. He's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Excuse me.

[Ty Butler]

That's not what you want. That's not. No, listen. Well, look. Well. Hi. Hey. Hello. So we're gonna get some stand in the field. It looks like what? I like this. I think this is what you want.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I think there's a shelf life for this, probably. You watch him run, Anthony. You watch Stanton run to first base. You think that looks like a guy who could cover, like, significant real estate in the outfield?

[Alan Hahn]

What's really unfortunate is I think that Stanton would do anything for this team, and that includes play the outfield when I think he knows that his range isn't what it used to be. I don't anticipate this going spectacularly, put it that way.

[Dave Rothenberg]

My man started the season with tennis elbows. With tennis elbows. Hey, now he's good enough.

[Ty Butler]

Hey, look, listen, look.

[Alan Hahn]

And, you know, I clean up the audio. I left that in for a reason, people.

[Ty Butler]

Hey, hey, hold on. Let's all stop for a second. People play.

[Dave Rothenberg]

This is me. Hey, hang on. I want you to play the cut. This is me asking Rosenberg. Is ESPN his favorite of all the three jobs?

[Aaron Boone]

Yeah, I should.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He.

[Ty Butler]

He.

[Aaron Boone]

Look, he's. He's. He's all. He's.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Dave Rothenberg]

That's a tough one.

[Ty Butler]

That's a very. It's.

[Dave Rothenberg]

That's unfortunate. I don't see this going well. Guys. I don't mean to sound pessimistic.

[Ty Butler]

It's fair. You have every right to feel that way.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Dude who starts.

[Ty Butler]

How do you think it ends? God forbid. I'm sorry, but how do you think it ends? What's going to be the.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I don't want to wish injury upon him.

[Ty Butler]

We're not.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I think they see enough of him in the outfield where they know that this is just not going to work. We tried it, but I think a guy who starts the season on the injured list because he has tennis elbows and now he's fully healthy, you watch him try to run to first base and he can't do it. That doesn't sound like someone who over the next, what, 47 games is going to give you a lot in right now field just doesn't sound like for a team that thinks it could win a championship.

[Ty Butler]

I'll say this. I think you have to find a way to play him. If you believe this team can still do something if they want to pack in the season.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I agree with that.

[Ty Butler]

If you want to pack in the season, though, you're like, we're not doing it anyway. I'd rather protect him. Because guess what? You haven't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's.

[Ty Butler]

He's still on the team for 13 seasons. So if you want to protect Stanton, then you don't do it. But if you. They obviously are going to try to give it a go. And if you're going to give it a go, you got to play him in the field.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's like the, like, what's the lesser of two evils? Judge with a flexor strain throwing the ball in right field or Stanton with all his issues trying to cover ground, you have no good options. It's almost like we want to petition to Rob Manford. Can we actually have two dhs? That'd be fun.

[Ty Butler]

That would be neat.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

Could you. Could. Could you play with two outfielders?

[Dave Rothenberg]

The Yankees already a bad defense. Let's remove one of the outfielders.

[Ty Butler]

It would be something like softball rules. You know, we play with eight. It's not a big deal.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Ty Butler]

I don't want to know how the.

[Don Hahn]

Sausage is made, man. I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

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