Hour 2: Draft Plans & Fraud Alert Friday

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast

Episode: Hour 2: Draft Plans & Fraud Alert Friday

Date: April 3, 2026

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Overview

This episode dives into two primary themes: New York sports teams’ draft plans and the fan-favorite segment "Fraud Alert Friday," where fans’ allegiances are judged for authenticity. The hosts—Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg—display their signature blend of insider analysis, humor, and honest debate as they break down NFL Draft intrigue, mock draft skepticism, fan loyalty dilemmas, and more. Expect lively banter, sharp opinions, and frequent tangents that seamlessly fuse sports with a distinctly New York attitude.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sports Scene Rundown (00:43–02:17)

• Don gives a whirlwind update on the active New York sports schedule—Yankees leading, Judge homers, upcoming Knicks, Mets, Islanders, and Nets games.
• Personal updates: Don discusses closing out his kids’ spring break with adult social plans ("I think I can get my drink on tonight." – Don, 01:39) and the reality of the NHL season winding down.

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2. Free Range Donnie & Devils Playoff Hopes (02:18–03:04)

• Alan and Peter tease Don about his soon-to-be “free-range” status as the NHL season ends, with only a slim chance for the Devils to make playoffs.
• Don counts the days to the end of his regular-season broadcasting duties.

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3. NFL Draft Buzz & Giants/Jets Outlook (03:13–12:50)

Draft Setup

• Discussion on how the draft weekend coincides with the first Yankees-Red Sox series, making it a packed sports weekend (04:14).
• Draft order: Jets have picks 2 and 16; Giants pick 5th (“It’s like you dream about.” – Peter, 04:24).

Giants’ Fifth Pick: Jeremiah Love Rumors

• Dave Rothenberg (guest clip) speculates the Giants are “leaning Love at 5,” referencing Jeremiah Love, a top running back prospect (04:37–05:00).
• The panel debates whether this is a legitimate leak or a deliberate smokescreen:
  • Don: "I'd rather them be sneaky than leaky." (06:07)
  • Peter: Questions disrespect toward Jordan Raanan, implying not all rumors are organizational leaks (07:14–07:35).
  • Alan: Likes Love as a fit with Harbaugh’s scheme but acknowledges the drama of pre-draft misinformation (08:26).

Don’s Mock Draft Cynicism

• Don rails against mock drafts: "I hate mocks. The only mocks I like was the quarterback in Varsity Blues…" (09:18)
• Alan: Sees the fun in speculation and debate, likening it to a blockbuster movie trailer—exciting but ultimately unpredictable (10:14).

Summary of Draft Psychology

• The hosts agree that genuine information is scarce pre-draft.
• Don (on mocks): “These mock drafts, you’re being led by your tongues, you know, honestly.” (12:27)
• Peter: “But I love it. I am the baby bird. Just chew it up and feed me, Donnie.” (12:34)
• Banter about "Soylent Green" as a metaphor for fans’ rabid desire for draft content (“They’re rioting in the streets for the Soylent Green…” – Don, 13:02).

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4. Giants vs. Jets Draft Philosophies (13:54–18:48)

• Peter King calls in to compare the Giants’ and Jets’ draft mindsets:
  • Giants fans are relatively content regardless of the specific pick, thanks to perceived stability under Harbaugh.
  • Jets fans remain distrustful ("As much as I think you should trust Muji, I don’t think Jet fans do...").
• Mel Kiper’s take on the Jets possibly selecting Ty Simpson at 33 is dissected:
  • Alan: Pushes back on Kiper’s implication that taking a QB at 33 means you’re locked out of next year’s QB crop: “That doesn’t make sense. Why do we make rules when it comes to the draft? Doesn’t make sense.” (16:39)
  • The hosts agree: only take a QB at 33 if you love him, not just like him.

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5. Fraud Alert Friday (24:05–41:20)

What Makes a “Fraud” Fan?

• Opening Ruling (26:37): Declaring a new fandom as an adult is only valid if you're new to the sport; otherwise, age limits apply.
• Listener Questions:
  • Switching NFL teams due to bad ownership: Caller argues the Jets have "metaphorically left the city" due to bad ownership and seeks permission to switch.
    • Don (firm): “It’d still be a fraud…If all of a sudden the Jets figured it out, you would root for them, right? Of course you would.” (28:37–29:42)
  • Allegiance flip due to a neighbor: A Bruins fan contemplates rooting for a neighbor's Western Conference team for a chance to share the Stanley Cup.
    • Don: Rules it fraudulent if he roots for the neighbor's team over his lifelong team, mocking the ease of “being led by his tongue and nose.” (34:09)
  • Multiple college fandoms due to children attending different schools: A listener’s friend becomes a super-fan of whichever college his kids attend.
    • Alan (pragmatic): “If my money goes to that school, I’m a fan…If my other son now goes to Georgetown, I’m a fan of both schools.” (36:49–37:06)
    • Don: Hesitant but ultimately accepts the logic—though he questions if obsessiveness is truly warranted.

Notable Fraud Quotes:

• “It's a that guy fraud. Not somebody I'd want to hang with, that's for sure.” – Don, on excessive college fandom switching (36:03)
• “I just have a feeling…this is a bad guy.” – Don, jokingly judging the fan switching allegiances for social advantage (38:45)

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6. Historical Sports Tangents & Rivalries (44:02–50:15)

• Rivalries: Callers and hosts reminisce about true NFL rivalries, especially Jets-Dolphins and Jets-Patriots. There’s a longing for mutual hatred, which now feels one-sided due to the Jets’ lack of success.

  • “The best compliment is that another football fan of another team hates your team.” – Caller Freddie, 45:59

• Single-Era Programs: Discussion on teams/schools defined by one dominant era—Dolphins post-Shula, Georgetown post-Thompson, Syracuse post-Boeheim.

  • “What are the Dolphins without Shula? Not good.” – Alan, 47:41
  • “What’s Georgetown without John Thompson? That ever is over.” – Don, 40:04

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7. Trademark New York Banter & Memorable Moments

• Repeated gags about Don's “frantic” voice crack and “frantic Don” persona (49:22–49:40).
• Alan and Peter good-naturedly roast Don for his old-school movie references (“Soylent Green”) and draft skepticism.
• Reflection on the Meadowlands’ untouched state since 2007, likened to a “zombie movie.” (48:14–48:32)
• Ongoing jibes about New York personalities, “that guy” fans, and the unique agony of rooting for underperforming franchises.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• "I'd rather them be sneaky than leaky." – Don La Greca (06:07)
• “Why do we make rules when it comes to the draft? Doesn’t make sense.” – Alan Hahn (16:39)
• "If all of a sudden the Jets figured it out, you would root for them, right? Of course you would." – Don La Greca (29:29)
• "It's a that guy fraud. Not somebody I'd want to hang with, that's for sure." – Don La Greca (36:03)
• “The best compliment is that another football fan of another team hates your team.” – Caller Freddie (45:59)
• "What are the Dolphins without Shula? Not good." – Alan Hahn (47:41)
• “What’s Georgetown without John Thompson? That ever is over.” – Don La Greca (40:04)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:43–02:17: Sports scoreboard, personal updates
• 03:13–12:50: NFL draft speculation, Giants/Jets breakdown, mock drafts skepticism
• 13:54–18:48: Giants/Jets trust issues, Mel Kiper quarterback take
• 24:05–41:20: Fraud Alert Friday (fan loyalty cases judged)
• 44:02–50:15: Sports rivalries, programs of a single era, Meadowlands time capsule
• Key jokes and movie references: (12:42, 13:02, 49:22–49:40)

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Episode Tone & Language

• Mix of playful sarcasm, passionate debate, and New York-style bluntness.
• Frequent interplay between humor and serious sports analysis.
• Hosts riff off nostalgia, personal anecdote, and sports “gallows humor.”

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For New Listeners

This episode provides a textbook slice of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg: dense with New York sports talk, layered with skepticism and wit, and anchored by interactive—and often hilarious—fan participation. Whether you're there for X's and O's or big personalities, this hour crystallizes why New York sports radio remains essential listening.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Alan Hahn]

Oh, big plans?

[Don La Greca]

Well, it's the last day of the kids vacation.

[Alan Hahn]

Nice.

[Don La Greca]

So they're going to go to a friend's house and hang out and then the adults are gonna meet and have a little, you know, party of our own. Like gentlemen, close out the the spring break. Because then after Easter, which is Sunday for us that celebrate, it's right back to the grind. They go back to school on Monday and I've got tomorrow and then against the Canadians and then we get you're almost done the plane and go to Montreal for a little home and home.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How about that?

[Alan Hahn]

But think about this, Peter, like we're going to get free range. Donnie. Oh yeah, it's, it's, it's almost here. Because even though Los Diablos. Yes, there is, I believe Gracie told me this morning, a 0.1% chance they can make playoffs. She was very, she's, she's holding on. Jack scored two goals for her for her birthday Last night she was all fired, and she's telling me that, so I know there's still a chance. I don't want to make it sound like you just can't wait for the season to end. I'm not going to do that. But, I mean, 82 in the books. You might be almost done next week. You could be finished.

[Don La Greca]

I am. My. My last game, regular season game is in Boston, April 14th. So it's 11 days away. But in those 11, who's counting?

[Alan Hahn]

Come on.

[Don La Greca]

In those 11 days. Well, as bad as I am at math, I could tell you that April 3rd and April 14th are separated by 11 days.

[Alan Hahn]

Look at you. This guy doesn't even need to come

[Don La Greca]

a long way, right, Peter?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's built in.

[Don La Greca]

This guy, you know, he's a robot. Got six games in that span, or actually, yeah, six, because they've got seven left because the game Tuesday against the Flyers is on national tv. So we're getting them in. We're enjoying it. Now. The draft is coming up. Don't know if you're aware of that. And there's gonna be a couch cast with Dpietro and Rothenberg and all that on YouTube. Everybody knows this big and, you know, it kind of stinks, too. I didn't think about it till today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's that? That you weren't invited the first.

[Don La Greca]

Well, yeah, that's one of those where I would have declined, but I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You wanted the invite, though.

[Don La Greca]

It would have been nice. All of us. Why couldn't we all be invited? Really? Honestly? Yes. So we're not involved, but, you know, we're still interested in the draft. No, of course. What I thought about, though, is that is the first weekend or the first Yankee Red Sox series.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, let's go.

[Don La Greca]

So you'll have Red Sox, Yankees. We'll have the draft.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm ready.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, boy.

[Don La Greca]

Jets picking second and 16th, the Giants picking fifth. Oh, it's great when you're.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's like you dream about.

[Alan Hahn]

Like you literally dreaming about it.

[Don La Greca]

Jordan Ron on was on DBA Tron Rothenberg earlier today, and he thinks the Giants are leaning love at 5.

[Dave Rothenberg]

My head stuck on Jeremiah Love right now, to be honest with you. It really is like everything you heard.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The reason.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I mean, if you think about it, the reason they started poking around about the top running backs in free agency. You heard they love Jeremiah Love. Like, to me, it's. It's. It's probably him or Downs. I don't know why. For some reason, I think you don't think Styles, huh? I think he might not be there.

[Don La Greca]

You think Styles is going to go top four?

[Dave Rothenberg]

I think he might end up going in the top four.

[Alan Hahn]

It feels like if he. If he's now the only thing you're watching. I said this yesterday is Tennessee, right. If they want to make that move. But as I said yesterday, it just. That feels like the right fit, right piece. It's Harbaugh in the way he wants to play. You got to put a talented running back in that backfield with Jackson Dart who can run it. Also to me strengthens that room because you still scatter.

[Don La Greca]

Boo.

[Alan Hahn]

Coming back from injury, we'll see how it looks. We'll see what he looks like. But we know he's a battering ram kind of runner. That can't be your, you know, multiple down back. Right. He's a specialist for the most part. You know, Tracy's still good. Like, I think it just. It'll make them better offensively.

[Don La Greca]

Here's here. There's an aspect I don't like. And hear me out on it, okay? Again, I'm not going to go the whole don't take a running back. Everybody knows how I feel about that. But if they're willing to pay him and Harbaugh want some bad enough, I got to live with it, right? When Gettleman wanted Barkley, everybody knew the Giants were taking Saquon Barkley. You know why? Two reasons. Number one, Giants weren't very buttoned up. Leaky ship, right? That's what bad organizations do. They can't keep their mouth shut. And two, they had the second overall pick. It didn't matter. Everybody knew that Baker Mayfield was going to be taken by Cleveland. So you weren't. You didn't have to put up a smokescreen. There would be. Because you knew Barkley was gonna be there. You're gonna take them. The problem I have with the love and everybody's saying they're gonna take love and they're hearing they're gonna take love. Well, then that means they're leaky again, right? I don't want them to be leaky. I'd rather than to be sneaky than leaky. I'm hoping. Great job. That the giving is smokescreen because they don't know if he's gonna be there at 5. So why would you tell the world we're gonna take love? We love love. Oh, wait a minute.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tennessee takes him at 4.

[Don La Greca]

Now what?

[Alan Hahn]

I get that. I see.

[Don La Greca]

I think this is a smokescreen. I'm not saying they're not going to Take them. But this hot interest, all that. Anybody that heard from the Iron, the Giants organization, that they're taking love, you're being lied to. They are just creating a smokescreen because how would it look if Tennessee.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a lot of disrespect for our guy Jordan, though.

[Don La Greca]

No. Well, Jordan's got to do what he's got to do. Yeah, but you think Jordan would know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He wouldn't be aware that this is a yo yo smoke screen?

[Don La Greca]

No. Well, first of all, if you listen to the cut, he's kind of going more off of feel than anything he was told.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You mean like. You mean like a player that he likes?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. Didn't you get that feeling?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, yeah. It sounded like he just can't stop thinking about him because of what a talent he is.

[Don La Greca]

We've all heard the beginning again, if you can, Jacob.

[Dave Rothenberg]

My head's stuck on Jeremiah Love right now, to be honest with you. It really is like everything you heard. The reason. I mean, if you think about it, the reason they started poking around about the. The top running backs in free agency.

[Don La Greca]

I just think he's reading the tea leaves. Honestly, I don't think he's being told anything. Well, but he did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He does think he is basing it on the logic he's seen from them. It's not just his own interest.

[Don La Greca]

Right, but. But he never said, I'm. I'm hearing they're taking love, you know, But I'm saying, if anybody has heard from the Giants that they're interested in love, I think it's a smokescreen because why would you let it be known out there that there's a player you're hot for that may not even be available? It makes no sense.

[Alan Hahn]

It doesn't. It doesn't. I like it as a fit. I think it makes sense as a fit. I think, you know, there's no reason why, like, when they asked Harbaugh about it, it's not like he said, we're taking them, you know, I think it fits the way he wants to play. Why not?

[Don La Greca]

Well, but I think. I don't know. Smokescreen.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay. We're going to find out. He might. You're right, though. He might be gone. But you don't know what Tennessee's going to do.

[Don La Greca]

I'm just saying. And maybe he'll be there.

[Alan Hahn]

And the mocks. And the mocks. The other part is the mocks that are based on. I know you love mocks, Don. These are your favorite part of the draft. So the mocks are generally Done based off of information that you have about what teams are planning to do.

[Don La Greca]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Usually you get that information not only from teams. Rarely does a team actually tell you the truth.

[Don La Greca]

Of course, they never tell you the truth.

[Alan Hahn]

But the. But agents generally will give you an indication of what feels they're getting from certain teams.

[Don La Greca]

But I. But I hate mocks. The only mocks I like was the quarterback in Varsity Blues. That was it. James Vanderby.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't want your life that mock.

[Don La Greca]

Now do you get a sense the Giants would make maybe trade down from

[Dave Rothenberg]

number five if that was an option? Like, if they're sitting there at 5 and down. Styles and love are all there. Like, I think, like, okay, we can then move back and still get one of these guys at 9, 10. I think that that would be something they'd be very interested in.

[Don La Greca]

I have such a love hate relationship with a draft that only Peter could understand. Oh, I do.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, I get it.

[Don La Greca]

I'm so interested and so fascinated by the draft. Seriously, that. Because I love football. But it's just. It's so fugazi. There's just so much garbage and lies and it is.

[Alan Hahn]

It is all it is. I know, Don. It. It's. It's a lot of conjecture and no facts, and it's just the buildup of what? Like, it's like any a movie coming out that they give you a trailer, but you really don't know what's gonna happen and you're excited for the movie. Maybe it's a sequel, maybe it's a series, whatever it is. And you're just wondering, like, is this gonna happen? Is that gonna happen? There's a lot, you know, like, this is what we do. You get built, you get excited, but

[Don La Greca]

it just, it just.

[Alan Hahn]

And there's always one team that screw of just.

[Don La Greca]

I know it's an educated guess, but it is still just a guess. As you said, none of these organizations benefit from giving you the truth. No, I don't find it fun.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, I do.

[Don La Greca]

I. But I.

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Why would you.

[Don La Greca]

Why is it fun to completely have baseless conversation?

[Alan Hahn]

It's not baseless.

[Don La Greca]

No, I know it's completely baseless.

[Alan Hahn]

It's not baseless. It's what, like, again, from a giant perspective, the conversation if I'm a Giants fan, is what do I need? What do I want? What will be available in my. In that pick? And you can give me who, four or five names. And from there, as a fan, you're going, I'd rather have this guy. Well, you could. It could Happen. But this could happen, too. To mess it up. And it just creates drama.

[Don La Greca]

So you get excited, apparently. And some of them visible. They all got to sleep on their backs. All right, that you want love. You've done the work. You watched all the YouTube videos. You watched them during the course of his career. Love him, thinks he's gonna be great. I want him. And then Mel Kuiper will have a mock draft. Him going at 5. And you get excited, oh, we're going to get him. You don't know that. And again, it's no offense to Mel. It's just. Come on. It's all just. They know how. The point is, it's like crack. People love the draft so much and love football so much, though. I'll just put up a mock draft, and people will just go nuts.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Guess what?

[Alan Hahn]

After April, it'll happen in June for the NBA and the NHL, and everybody gets. The only draft no one gives a rip about is the Major League Baseball one, because there's just too many players and too many rounds. You have no idea who's who. But.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But.

[Alan Hahn]

But these drafts, it's, you know, the argument of who should go number one and. And all that. It's just all part of the drama and the fun and the debate about it. Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

These mock drafts, you're being led by your tongues, you know, honestly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And they. And they love it.

[Alan Hahn]

But I love it.

[Don La Greca]

They're outside.

[Alan Hahn]

I love it. No, I do. I. I am the baby bird. Just chew it up and feed me, Donnie. Chew it up and feed me.

[Don La Greca]

I'm not asking you to see the movie because you people have no patience. Go to YouTube and watch the trailer for the movie Soylent Green.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right.

[Don La Greca]

It's got Charlton Heston in it. It's from 1973. And everybody wants the Soylent Green. And they're. They're. They're rioting the streets for the Soylent Green.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

And then they got to say, oh, we have no more Soylent Green. And people riot in the streets.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's the same thing.

[Don La Greca]

We have a mock draft. Mel Kuiper's got a mock. They're rioting in the streets. Mel, when are you gonna finish this mock draft? They're turning over cars now.

[Alan Hahn]

Peter, have you ever seen Soylent Green?

[Don La Greca]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not even.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, God. Because. Because what Don's doing here, the. The ending, which I will not give away, what they reveal at the end would be a really, really strange ending to the draft. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What would be the equivalent?

[Alan Hahn]

I can't Yeah, I can't, honestly.

[Don La Greca]

Peter, you gotta know the trailer. Watch the trailer during the break and just tell me what you think.

[Alan Hahn]

The famous line that Heston screams at the end of that movie is the most jarring moment of that movie. It just. And if that's how the draft ends.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, I'm telling you, we're at that point.

[Peter King]

Well, Don, I think the thing that's interesting for Giant fans, which is going to be very different from years past, forget who is taken. I don't think anybody's going to be mad at any of the options that are taken because the quarterback situation, at least for this year in their mind, is taken care of. The Jet fan can be mad because if they like Ty Simpson, they're going to say, why didn't we take Ty Simpson? If you take Jeremiah Love, who's going to help with Jackson Dart offensively, if you're going to get Caleb Downs, the safety, which is something that the Giants need, or you get one of the linebackers like Sonny Styles, that's going to help them as well.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter King]

Out of those three, you're feeling pretty good. If you're a Giant kicker, then you're going to be mad, but I don't think that's going to happen.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, you're right, because. And that's why it's, it's. It's not an apples to apples comparison, taking Love as opposed to the Barkley situation, because the Giants needed a quarterback and refused to acknowledge they did. And there were quarterbacks in that draft they could have taken and didn't because they still thought Eli had something left. There's part of that, and that's why the jets draft is distinctly different than the Giants draft. We trust Harbaugh. Forget Shane. Like, I don't even think Giant fans are thinking about Shane right now. It's like we trust Harbaugh. Whoever they pick will love. Right. As much as I think you should trust Muji, I don't think Jet fans do because they just don't trust the organization. So there won't be that confidence in whoever they pick.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, especially if whoever they pick, it's like it didn't. It doesn't make sense. Which I can't see them doing it too.

[Don La Greca]

No, I don't see them.

[Alan Hahn]

16.

[Don La Greca]

16 could be different.

[Alan Hahn]

16 could throw people through a loop because you never know. But two, how difficult is two can't be right.

[Don La Greca]

Since you talked about the Jets, Mel Kuiper was on the first draft podcast and says likes the idea of Simpson to the jets at 33.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Caller]

It would be a perfect scenario having Geno Smith there. Now do they want to take a quarterback? I debated this the other day on draft D with you and Lewis Riddick. Lewis said I was wrong. It doesn't matter, man. Yeah, I said like and love is important. If you just like him, then you wait till next year. Because guess what? You're going to have to wait till next year for Ty anyway. Because she knows Smith's their quarterback, right? He's the bridge quarterback for a QB. And Simpson away has 15 starts. You're going to probably get him ready for 2027 season, right? Not 2026. Then you're going to have a draft four quarterbacks. So we draft another quarterback, take another shot in the first round with another quarterback after drafting Simpson at 33 or at 16 or wherever they take him. So I think you got to have feel Frank has to love the OC there has to love Ty Simpson. Liking him to me is not good enough.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know if I agree. He's saying you can't. He's saying if you take a quarterback at 33, you can't take a quarterback in the first round next year. Is that what he said?

[Don La Greca]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

I think that's ridiculous. I love Mel. But that, that. That doesn't make sense. I just got two first round picks. I didn't have to use any draft capital to move up to get a quarterback that I don't have a young quarterback in the room. I got. I want one for this year. I want a young quarterback just to see.

[Don La Greca]

But.

[Alan Hahn]

So why can't I do that? And if it's. If I. If I suck and he plays a little bit late in the year and it's like it's not really hitting and I've got a top three pick. Why the hell can't I take a quarterback then? That doesn't make sense. Why do we make rules when it comes to the draft? Doesn't make sense.

[Don La Greca]

So basically, are you okay with the jets taking a backup quarterback at 33?

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Don La Greca]

Because that's what you'd be doing. Well, you can't understand. But you don't know that people out there.

[Alan Hahn]

Come on, Donnie. It's a crapshoot, man.

[Don La Greca]

Anything.

[Alan Hahn]

There is no exact science to this. So if I have the opportunity to take a guy that right where he should be taken, which is the second round a day two quarterback and I can get him because I know maybe another team probably will at some point.

[Don La Greca]

No, but that's why he said it all.

[Alan Hahn]

Depends on what my intel tells me. And you would think that Moochie's got some intel.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It also depends what you. It also depends what you think he could be.

[Don La Greca]

What's. Yeah, that's the like. And love Peter, like, if you like him.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

That means if his ceiling is a

[Peter Rosenberg]

good backup, you don't take.

[Don La Greca]

I like him. I think it. I think he's. I think he can possibly be a good quarterback, but in all likelihood, he's probably just going to be a backup. Well, then you don't take him at 33. You look at it as a day two quarterback, second, 32nd round, still value with the 33rd overall pick in the draft. Right. So then you got a lot going to be good. All right, you're interesting him in the possibility of throwing that pick away for a team that doesn't have a ton of talent to begin with.

[Alan Hahn]

They've thrown away far worse picks than

[Don La Greca]

that, but that doesn't make it right.

[Alan Hahn]

Then you better love whoever's at 33.

[Don La Greca]

No, but if you love them. No, but Demel's point, if you love him, then you take him at 33. But if you only like them, then you're saying that I don't know if he's going to be great, and then I'm probably going to be taking a quarterback with one of my top picks in 27. Okay? You look back at it and go, well, then you wasted a 33rd overall pick in the draft.

[Alan Hahn]

That's all I'm saying. All right, I get that's a little bit more like the semantics of, like, in love and all that stuff. But what I'm saying is, is that if. If he's a quarterback that you feel like is worth your time, then it doesn't hurt to take him there. But if you've watched him and, like, why would you take anybody if you don't love them? You don't take anyone if you don't love them. And I think that. I think Glenn kind of gave it away when he talked about Simpson in a positive light, but added the idea. I don't know if we still have the sound, but I remember him saying this, and he said that, you know, it's not a reach. Right. As long as it's not a reach. And that obviously means don't take him too high or give up anything to get him. It's not like the Giants in Jackson Dart, which they made sure to move back into the first because they wanted to make sure they got him. They used draft capital. They made the move and they got their quarterback. He's not that in this draft. I get that. I completely understand that part of it. But I don't think that there's a world that you couldn't take a quarterback on day two and then say, well, now you can't take a quarterback next year. That's ridiculous.

[Don La Greca]

Well, we've got fraud alert Friday coming up next.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You bet your ace we do.

[Don La Greca]

And it should be a lot of fun. So we got calls, emails, big five o' clock hour. Big ENN is also coming up. I'm just watching the baseball players. Could be stupid. Well, I'm sorry you're down 8 to 2 when you get picked off a second base. Honestly.

[Alan Hahn]

Why not?

[Don La Greca]

Honestly? Honestly. I mean, how, how dumb can you be? That's.

[Alan Hahn]

I find that early in the season

[Peter Rosenberg]

that's what people get picked off the most.

[Don La Greca]

I mean, if that happened in Marco's game, I take Marco aside, say, what's the matter with you?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, he's. They're desperate.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what happens.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Did you or someone you know participate in fraudulent fan behavior?

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

I have been a complete and utter fraud.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Ah ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Fraud Alert Friday like you dream about. If you want to participate, find out whether you or a loved one is a fraud. Send us an email to dhrespnmail.com perhaps you will find out. Now before we get to that people read about all kinds of things and someone wrote about Drop Madness. Okay, saying the issue with the low voter turnout for Drop Madness is the platform formerly known as Twitter.

[Don La Greca]

I love it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You guys always talk about how awful the app is. I deleted over decade ago and I'm not going back.

[Rich Eisen]

Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

God bless.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Please try moving voting to YouTube or the ESPN New York app next.

[Alan Hahn]

You know.

[Peter King]

Okay, well, listen.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter King]

Under advisement for sure. And I appreciate it if everybody remembers two years ago when we did this, there was a website. We had backing from the company to do it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Peter King]

And we did it that way. I think that's actually how we did the voting. Think there was a way to vote there? Or at least you could listen to the drops there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Peter King]

I've discussed the YouTube thing at length. You cannot do more than one poll at a time. You'd get less voter turnout than we have on Twitter than you do on YouTube. Because I would have to do eight polls when the seat. When this all starts, we don't want to see you do eight polls all at once. It would be, I would say, maybe 30 votes each, which is even less than the hundred that we're getting on Twitter.

[Don La Greca]

Well, we'll figure something out.

[Peter King]

So it has to be a better

[Alan Hahn]

fatigue, maybe voter fatigue.

[Peter King]

I think we need backing from. From the powers that be as well in order to make this work.

[Alan Hahn]

You know what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what? The best way to do it, if possible, would be to. To put each match up on Instagram where you could actually hear it on Instagram and vote on Instagram. Maybe that would be the best way to do it. But we'll get there. We appreciate the thoughts. Let's get to the fraudulent, shall we? Here we go. That's right. Here we go. Drew says, guys, I have an important Fraud Friday question that's been eating at me, and it needs an official ruling. Don has always said you need to declare your fandom by around 8 years old or you're a fraud. Fair enough. But what happens when you're in an adult? When you're. We did. We basically covered this last week. What happens when you're an adult getting into a new sport?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, then it's. No. There is no age limit if you're new to the sport.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm just saying we turn your mic up. It's like you turn your mic down or something.

[Don La Greca]

Never.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don La Greca]

Is it better?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's getting there.

[Don La Greca]

It was Alan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not just me, right? He's lower.

[Alan Hahn]

No, No, I haven't noticed it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Really?

[Don La Greca]

I didn't touch anything. No, just because Marco. Marco is a baseball fan, so he needed to declare, but if you're not a fan and you're 60, then. Then. Then you're good. That's it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here we go.

[Don La Greca]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fraudulent for leaving the Jets. I love all of you, especially Peter, even though he's not a real New Yorker. And I gotta say, I'm now a big fan of the ELR vehicle. Real quick, Alan Hahn tells us that he is Batman in hour three of Monday's show. Approximately nine minutes 46 in. Also.

[Alan Hahn]

Say that again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Troubling moment, hour one of yesterday's show at 3404. And by the way, this is today. So, Alan, you said you were Batman yesterday. Oh, that was Monday show.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, I missed all that because I interrupted my ear.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What?

[Alan Hahn]

Say it again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Apparently, Monday you said that you were Batman on hour three, and I'd like to hear that.

[Don La Greca]

Well, I was not here, so I did not hear.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he also said that I had a very troubling moment, hour one of yesterday's show at the 3404. I don't know what that is, but he's saying it happened. I would like to argue my case for picking a new NFL team, and I'm going to make it quick.

[Freddie]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm a Jets fan and looking at current ownership, I can't foresee anything changing. Okay, Don, you have previously ruled that if a team leaves your city, you are entitled to no longer be a fan and pick a new one without fraudulence.

[Don La Greca]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I would argue that due to the meddling nature and overall poor ownership of Woody Johnson, the team has essentially and metaphorically left the city. And it's cruel and unusual punishment to force me to continue to be a New York jets fan and not pick a new team. I feel I'm just in my thoughts here, but will look forward to the ruling of the judge.

[Don La Greca]

It'd still be a fraud. And the reason would you be a fraud is, let's just say for sake of argument, they won nine games and made the playoffs this year. I don't see it happening. But, you know, stranger things have taken place. Would he not root for them? No, he'd be all in. Because it's about winning. And if your team moves, you can't root for them because they're not in your city anymore. It's tough to follow. You know, if you had a situation like Peter had where his owner is a really bad guy, yeah, he'd root for them to win in the playoffs. But he would admit to you it would hit different because he just doesn't like the owner, you would have no problem with Woody Johnson. If all of a sudden the jets figured it out. I understand Woody John's is the reason they haven't figured it out. I get that. But a bad owner is always one good decision away from having it all change.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. Just trips into the right. The right move.

[Don La Greca]

And if he did trip into that, you would root for them, right? Of course you would. So the fact that you'd give up on them because the ownership is bad and found another team would make you a fraud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So what if. What if someone said, I'm just curious. They were honestly so sickened by the ownership that at this point, even them winning wouldn't bring them any joy, and they just want to be out, and they don't even have any second thoughts. If they start winning, they won't care.

[Don La Greca]

I find that very difficult to believe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You just don't believe it.

[Don La Greca]

Well, because, like, with the Schneider situation is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who's Schneider?

[Don La Greca]

Snyder.

[Alan Hahn]

I thought you meant D. Schneider.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I thought. No, I thought he meant Schneider.

[Don La Greca]

You knew I was super. You could have let it go, but this show doesn't let things go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, Schneider from. What was that called? What was that show with Valerie Bertinelli?

[Peter Rosenberg]

One Day at a time.

[Alan Hahn]

One day at a time. So the most bizarre character ever.

[Don La Greca]

Well, somebody's got to be. You know, you got to have maintenance in an apartment building.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh. But it always felt like he was offering a little more than maintenance.

[Don La Greca]

Well, listen, there had to be a perk to the job. It probably didn't pay well, so there had to be some reason that he was still motivated.

[Alan Hahn]

There was a lot on the table

[Don La Greca]

to be hanging around. I just can't. The reason you hate him is because you don't win. So if you started winning, you wouldn't hate it anymore. I saw it with the Wilpons. Believe me, they were putting up billboards. Wilpons sell the team. Willpons sell. All of a sudden, they're in the World Series in 2015. No more billboards. There was no more complaining. And then they started losing, and they complained again. I don't think there's a world where a Jet band hates Woody Johnson and wants to leave the jets because they're losing. They start winning and go, no, this isn't any good.

[Alan Hahn]

So you just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So it's more that you just don't find it.

[Don La Greca]

Right. But what I'm saying about the Commander's owner is, is that bad guy. Maybe they win, and you're like, yeah, but he won two, and he's a bad guy, you know, because that might have happened to you, Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

You would have been happy they won the Super Bowl. But, like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But this guy, I know it would have hurt.

[Don La Greca]

He makes me sick.

[Alan Hahn]

Like, you don't want to do it with him getting the credit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, I would take it, but. Yeah, it doesn't. It wouldn't be right. You know, I'm saying it feel different.

[Don La Greca]

It wouldn't be. You wouldn't be all in. And that's sad. So fraud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, let's keep moving, shall we?

[Don La Greca]

Why not?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You send your emails to [e-mail]. good afternoon, your honor. They turn Preface this scenario by noting I've been a Boston Bruins fan since my youth listening to WBZ with or Espo and Cheevers and the big bad Bruins in Central ny and I remain one to this day.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Last summer we had a new neighbor across the street I learned was a professional hockey player. Come to find out he was a first round draft pick and currently an alternate captain for a Western Conference hockey club. Kind of exciting, but he's no Bruin. We chatted up a bit and he had to head off for training camp in the early fall and secure housing out west. I was telling my son's buddy, also an avid hockey fan, about our new neighbor.

[Don La Greca]

He said, yeah, he said a Western

[Alan Hahn]

Conference, Western Conference and a captain.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And he's from Central New York or Western New York.

[Don La Greca]

He said Central.

[Alan Hahn]

Central New York.

[Don La Greca]

All right, we'll try to decipher this.

[Alan Hahn]

This is.

[Don La Greca]

We'll try to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was telling my son's buddy, who's also an avid hockey fan, about our new neighbor and he said, are you going to become that team's fan? I told him, no way. I'll watch him. I'll cheer for him as long as he's not playing against the Bruins. But if it comes down to the Stanley cup and it's against us, I'm going with the Bruins. Of course he asked me. So if they play each other in the Stanley cup, you're not going to root for his team? Don't you realize if they win, he will get to have it for one day and you could possibly have a chance to drink out of it thinking about that. Hell yeah, I'll root for them regardless of who they may be playing in the cup finals. His team has no chance of even making the playoffs. But if they ever do make the

[Alan Hahn]

cup finals, no chance.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I will be that team's fan, fraudster or selfish.

[Don La Greca]

Well, what I need to know is would he root for him over the Bruins in the Stanley Cup Final?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He. That's what it seems like. He landed on the end. At the end thinking about that. Hell yeah, I'll root for them regardless of who they may Be playing in the cup finals. But then he adds, his team has no chance of even making the playoffs.

[Alan Hahn]

So it's too easy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know how you rule on this, Don.

[Don La Greca]

Well, easy. I rule. Go ahead. It's very. It's very simple.

[Alan Hahn]

I love the way you drop that. It's very easy. I rule.

[Don La Greca]

Come on. Seriously. And the fact that he was so easily led by his tongue and nose, like, oh, well. He was like, no, no. Oh, really? I get to. I get to hang with the cup. Yeah. I'll root against the burns.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, what a bad guy.

[Don La Greca]

So I'm starting to think, who's a bad team in the west that's got.

[Alan Hahn]

He's a captain or is he an alternate captain or a captain?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He said he's a captain

[Alan Hahn]

and he lives in. He's from. He lives there in the off season.

[Don La Greca]

Or he's not from Central New York, but he lives there in the off season.

[Alan Hahn]

Clearly lives across the street from him. Which, by the way, I mean, I'm sure he's making pretty good bank. Quite a big street.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Interesting stuff there, huh?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, but it's got me. I can't figure this out. It's got to be an alternate captain. It cannot. It can't possibly be an actual captain.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, last one.

[Alan Hahn]

I have a co worker who grew

[Peter Rosenberg]

up in the Jersey area, went to a small D3 college down south with no real ties to major college sports.

[Alan Hahn]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

His son recently started at Providence, and he has become a huge Providence men's basketball fan, even more so than some of my other co workers who actually attended Providence. He's always talking about recruiting, coaching searches, watches every game in detail. He's even got season tickets for Providence. His younger son is starting at Georgetown next year, and he already bought season tickets for them and is planning to go to several games. Am I wrong for thinking he's a fraud for instantly becoming a massive fan for a college he had no previous ties to at 50 plus years old? Will he become a bigger fan of Georgetown now that his younger son's attending there? I understand supporting a school your kids go to, but I feel like you can't just decide to be a massive fan of a college team at that age. What do you guys think

[Alan Hahn]

this is a that guy?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, it's a that guy fraud. Not somebody I'd want to hang with, that's for sure. No, I don't get that. I've explained this. You don't go there. You don't. Your kids don't go there. You're mad, but it's.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, his kids. You mean the Providence part?

[Don La Greca]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, got was just because he knew somebody.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, Providence was just like local connection, I believe.

[Alan Hahn]

But he said his son went there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No son's going to Georgetown.

[Alan Hahn]

Gotcha. Yeah, yeah.

[Don La Greca]

It's. It's just. It's not good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he said he grew up in the Jersey area, went to a small D3.

[Alan Hahn]

Right, right, right, right. Got that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, his son recently started at Providence. Yes. So one kid started at Providence, one

[Alan Hahn]

went to Providence, so he became a Providence fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now the younger son's going to Georgetown.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, so see Don again. I'll argue. My money goes to that school. I'm a fan.

[Don La Greca]

I, I, I guess.

[Alan Hahn]

I guess if my other son now goes to Georgetown. I got two going to two different schools. I'm a fan of both schools. It doesn't make me a fraud. Doesn't make me a fraud.

[Don La Greca]

I'm a fan of both schools because

[Alan Hahn]

I'm paying for this.

[Don La Greca]

I missed the part of his son went there.

[Freddie]

All right.

[Don La Greca]

There was a lot of information.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Yeah. Google how much tuition is at both those schools.

[Don La Greca]

I'm sure.

[Alan Hahn]

Why? You'll see why it does matter to me, the success. Yes, it does.

[Don La Greca]

Now, the only Western Conference captain.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Way out of the playoffs. Allen.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Don La Greca]

Michael Backlin in Calgary.

[Alan Hahn]

That's who I was looking at.

[Don La Greca]

Now, he's not from Central.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Don La Greca]

New York.

[Alan Hahn]

What? Doesn't mean he doesn't live there, but

[Don La Greca]

he could live there.

[Alan Hahn]

What is Backlin? Backland is a. What is that? That's Swedish.

[Don La Greca]

I think so.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. I'm thinking Backstrom. So is Backland. Is that also a Swedish name?

[Don La Greca]

I don't know why he felt like he couldn't mention him.

[Alan Hahn]

I know. Big secret. But now I got it. Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

He's from Sweden.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay. So just fell and decides. And decides his off season spent in central New York would be just wonderful.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, I got. I gotta just hang in Cortland, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, that will do it for fraud alert Friday.

[Don La Greca]

Fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud. You know what's interesting about the. That. But. But he's got another son that goes to Georgetown, so.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

How do you make that work?

[Alan Hahn]

What do you mean?

[Don La Greca]

Well, he's not a fan of Georgetown. His money. Doesn't he pay for his son, his other son to go there?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, yeah, he's. His money's going to two schools.

[Don La Greca]

You know, I just have a feeling. Just. Just a feeling. And I apologize ahead of time. Feels like that this is a bad guy.

[Alan Hahn]

Who's a bad guy? The guy telling on him?

[Don La Greca]

No, the guy that's being told on the problem.

[Alan Hahn]

I think. I think the guy narcing on him is like, he's being that guy. It's like, no, because, like, his kids are going to these schools.

[Don La Greca]

Wanted to be a part of our bit, you know, so. No, I don't look at this as narcing. I think that he's doing a service.

[Alan Hahn]

A service?

[Don La Greca]

Well, because if they're all narcs, then

[Alan Hahn]

these are insinuating circumstances. It's different. If he randomly likes Providence for no reason whatsoever, that would be fraudulent. And then sends his kid to Georgetown. And now suddenly, now I'm a Georgetown fan.

[Caller]

That's.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the part that's like, wait a minute.

[Don La Greca]

But. But based on your thought that, hey, where my money's going, I should be a fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well,

[Alan Hahn]

if he. If he didn't have kids going to both schools. If one of the schools was just, I'm a fan of this school, right? Dave's boys. Nobody's going to Georgetown. Right. Rothenburg.

[Don La Greca]

But he's a Georgetown. Not on our salary, but he's a Georgetown fed.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the part I like him being

[Don La Greca]

a Georgetown fan, honestly, I think borders on being stupid because it's all based on how well they played 40 years ago. They haven't played that. Well said, Peter. They've got no shot of being the Patrick Ewing, Georgetown Hoyas ever again.

[Alan Hahn]

Nun shock. Never again.

[Don La Greca]

Ever.

[Alan Hahn]

That ever is over.

[Don La Greca]

Ever.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It died with John Thompson.

[Don La Greca]

Well, I'm going to tell you because that's it.

[Alan Hahn]

Somebody else.

[Don La Greca]

What did they do before? What have they done after? Yeah, Patrick tried to go back as a coach. Not good.

[Alan Hahn]

No. You ever shot that shot? You practiced that shot?

[Don La Greca]

I just like getting on Dave for being that guy with.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what, by the way, though, it is Georgetown is an interesting school and like, overall program, like, it's on. It's almost a list. Programs like, you know, or teams, whatever word you want to use. Teams that have continued to have sort of a real credibility attached to their name and like, respectability.

[Alan Hahn]

Who really.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Their pockets of being good are incredibly small. Georgetown you think of as being like, no, it's Georgetown that's serious basketball. It has not been good, basically. Long time since Iverson left. I mean, moments with Roy Hibbert, moments here, moments there.

[Don La Greca]

But generally, oh, it's got to just based on one particular era. UNLV is like that, too. There's a couple.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a great one, too.

[Alan Hahn]

That's a lot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you know what guys?

[Alan Hahn]

Because of the money and guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Freddie]

Hey, guys. How are you?

[Don La Greca]

Good, good.

[Freddie]

A couple days ago, Alan, you and Don were talking and you asked, don, you know, between the Eagles and the Cowboys, who do you hate most? You guys had that conversation and that was. That was good. But then you said to Don, am I wrong to hate the Dolphins more than I hate New England?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Freddie]

And as a lifelong Dolphin fan, who for the last three or five years has had nothing to cheer for.

[Alan Hahn]

How many years people?

[Freddie]

35.

[Alan Hahn]

35? Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Makes them feel actually longer than that.

[Alan Hahn]

It's amazing.

[Freddie]

Years old.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. It's sad. That's a long run.

[Freddie]

It is sad. I mean, I loved it the 80s when dolphin and Jet fans could hate

[Alan Hahn]

each other because we had reason. Well, we had reason to. Pretty good Dolphins going head to head back then.

[Freddie]

Yeah. But since then, all I get is, you know, oh, geez, I feel sorry for you. Or, you know, nobody hates us because we pose no threat. So as a football fan, I think the most compliment, the best compliment is that another football fan of another team hates your team. So when you said that the other day, for a few fleeting moments, I was like, wow, somebody hates us.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, there's plenty of Dolphin fan.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no. Can I put it. Can I, Can I do this, though? I guarantee you're like, but I don't hate the jets. Because you don't see it that, like, you know what I mean? Like, you don't look at it probably. You don't. Probably don't hate the Jets. You probably despise them. Like, like they're pathetic, which I understand. But you don't have that same equal animosity. Right. Which makes it, for me, almost depressing. It's like real rivalries are when both teams hate each other, both fan bases hate each other. That doesn't exist. It's the same as Patriots fans. They don't look at the jets and go, okay, I hate to do that. No, they look at the jets and

[Don La Greca]

go, yeah, give me a break.

[Alan Hahn]

You guys suck.

[Don La Greca]

Listen. Yeah, he made his day out.

[Freddie]

Heyday, you know, back in the heyday, I didn't hate New England because they were doormat.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, back in those days, man, with Pat the Patriot on the helmet, forget it. Those were fun, those days.

[Don La Greca]

Those times were over. Freddie, thanks for the phone call.

[Alan Hahn]

Good stuff, Freddie.

[Don La Greca]

You know what? You know what's interesting, Peter? Because I'm starting to make the list in my head of the teams that you basically just had the one era, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's it.

[Don La Greca]

I think the Dolphins are in that category. Shula, what are the Dolphins.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, they have the undefeated. Or after Shula, they have the undefeated season. That's all they got.

[Don La Greca]

I mean, they have still the super bowl appearance with Marine, but with Shula, like, that's it. I mean, they. They had a. What? They had that one appearance or a couple of baby appearances with Jimmy Johnson. I remember there was. They gave up 60 points in a playoff game to Jackson when Jimmie Johnson was the coach. So they had little tiny moments of playoff births or whatever. But think about it. What are the. What are the Dolphins without Shula?

[Alan Hahn]

Not good.

[Don La Greca]

Now, he was there a long time.

[Alan Hahn]

Very long time.

[Don La Greca]

But it's almost like, you know, when you. Most of it's college, like Penn State, it's paternal, but they have had some moments beyond it, but not really. What's Syracuse without Bayheim? Who are they and what have they been after?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's. That's one.

[Alan Hahn]

That's certainly one. That is certainly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And one title, like, remember.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, you just said it. What's Georgetown without John Thompson?

[Don La Greca]

You know what? Because you brought up something real quick, because then we got to go to break. I showed it to Peter last yesterday.

[Alan Hahn]

You did? Good for you. I wasn't there.

[Don La Greca]

No, they. Somebody got into the Meadowlands and sent pictures.

[Alan Hahn]

Joe, you saw that, right?

[Don La Greca]

And it's a.

[Peter King]

It.

[Don La Greca]

It's. It's amazing. It's like a zombie movie. It is exactly when they left it in 2007.

[Alan Hahn]

Nothing has been touched, which blows my mind. Don't they still use it?

[Don La Greca]

They use it. Bands rent it out to rehearse before they go on tour.

[Alan Hahn]

Sound check. Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. Like, Bon Jovi's gonna go on tour, so they'll rent it out for, like, A week and play.

[Alan Hahn]

They do that with the Coliseum on the island.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, there. There's a. There's an ad for Xanadu coming soon. Like up on one of the scoreboards.

[Alan Hahn]

It's still there.

[Don La Greca]

I gotta go back. I mean, because there was 2007. It was the spring of 2007. They lost to the Senators in the playoffs. And then that was it. Right. So it hasn't been 20 years, but it's still been a while. And it just kind of went. But there was an article because now people are starting to respond to what happened is they hosted a final four.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Peter hosted a final arena to host the final Four. That's Carmelo Anthony's, right?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. Carmelo Anthony's title. 96. Can you imagine now an arena having it. Never mind. The metal lands.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, he did it again. Don did it again. The voice broke the voice. No, it's. It's the crazy. When he get. It's frantic. Don. He gets to that place again.

[Alan Hahn]

Frantic. Don't.

[Don La Greca]

I'm trying to get back from this cold.

[Alan Hahn]

We're trying to get you back.

[Don La Greca]

And listen. I'm passionate, man. I'm just having a conversation and listen.

[Alan Hahn]

And we love every minute of it.

[Don La Greca]

Really hard to do this show, honestly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know. It's really.

[Don La Greca]

It's.

[Alan Hahn]

Imagine if you were. Imagine if you were thin skinned and very sensitive, Michael, you would not survive.

[Don La Greca]

The show is being done. I think Michael would have a nervous.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, and for the record, if you remember. If you remember, Michael would sometimes get upset with me for doing it too much. He could only handle it to a point, really.

[Don La Greca]

But you know, it's.

[Alan Hahn]

It's all just joke.

[Don La Greca]

I know, we're just. It is a workout. It is a bit of a workout, but the Yankees had their win. They're 6 and 1. We'll get into that. We'll hear from Aaron Boone. Take you up until 7:00. And then it's Ty Butler here on ESPN New York.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I want to talk to you about something also, Anthony. In the meantime, while I'm reading This thing about FanDuel I'm excited about, can you please pull up the drop of. When Don was famously asked about the double header record. If you don't mind real quick though, guys, things are heating up in the tournament and FanDuel is giving all customers a profit boost every single game day leading up to the big championship game. Build a tam game, parlay for a shot at a bigger payout or try live betting and jump in after tip off. Best of all, with FanDuel, you get paid instantly when you win. Visit FanDuel.com local to get started. That's FanDuel.com local to claim your first profit boost and keep the action going from now till the big championship game. All right? FanDuel play your game 21 or over. Physically present New York option required. Bonus issued is not withdrawable. Profit boost tokens restrictions apply including any token expiration and max major amount. See [e-mail] for help with the gambling problem. Call 877-8-HOPE NY or text Hopeny at 467-369 and before we go to break Don do you know what the Yankees record is after today? The Yankees have played seven doubleheaders this year. Don and Peter, that's 14 games.

[Don La Greca]

What do you think their record is? Six and one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There you go.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

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