Hour 2: Iman Shumpert & That Guy

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg — Hour 2: Iman Shumpert & That Guy

Air date: May 7, 2026
Host(s): Alan Hahn, Michael Kay, Peter Rosenberg
Special Guests: Iman Shumpert (Former Knick), Mark Feinstein

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Episode Overview

This episode zeros in on the state of New York basketball, particularly the Knicks' playoff run, with pop-ins from former Knicks guard Iman Shumpert. Other major threads include fan culture, the East’s competitive landscape, LeBron James’ potential retirement, honors in Monument Park for iconic broadcasters, and a signature "That Guy" segment ribbing unusual fan behavior. The crew mixes deep hoops analysis with classic New York sports banter, staying true to their irreverent, passionate tone.

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Key Discussion Points

Knicks Playoff Picture & OG Anunoby's Injury

[03:54 – 07:27]

• Hamstring Scare: Hosts ask Shumpert about OG Anunoby's day-to-day hamstring issue:

  • Iman Shumpert:

    “I don't think it's too bad a scare, even if he has to sit out ... they've done their work early and he's been a huge part of that. So I think they'll be fine.” [04:19]

• Game 3 Jitters:

  • The crew stresses the risk of giving the Sixers “life” by losing momentum during OG’s absence.
  • Shumpert points to the Knicks’ offensive flexibility:

    “The great thing about the Knicks is them finding that we can play through Cat ... they've had to find ways in previous series and previous years.” [05:25]

• Are Knicks the Best in the East?

  • Shumpert believes in the Knicks' ability to win the conference but acknowledges Boston's firepower makes the road tough:

    “The surge of offense and the flurry of threes that Boston is designed to do ... brings in the question that the Knicks had a longer road than we once thought.” [06:50]

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Fan Culture: J.R. Smith Incident & "Over-Loving"

[07:27 – 10:56]

• J.R. Smith Swarmed by Fans:
  • Smith was mobbed by an overly exuberant crowd after Game 1.
  • Shumpert:

    “He was just trying to figure out why everybody pulled their phone out instead of picking him up ... It was just a little too much love.” [07:32 & 08:41]

  • Boys debate generational changes in Knicks fan celebrations.
  • Shumpert highlights New York’s “arguing is caring” mentality:

    “It's like a cousin ... You act like it's complaining, but it's not complaining. You love doing it.” [09:42]

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Detroit's Threat Level & Knicks' Pressure

[10:56 – 12:47]

• Detroit is emerging as a sleeping giant but lacks the pressure on the Knicks. Shumpert notes:

  “Detroit plays free like that because they kind of play with the Church's money ... I think they're a player or two away.” [11:27]

• On Knicks roster moves:

  “I think that the Knicks stay together if they get to the Finals ... they just did a lot of this.” [12:47]

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Behind-the-Scenes: Players & Trade Rumors

[13:17 – 16:20]

• The looming specter of potential Giannis trades and the psychological toll of trade rumors:

  • Shumpert:

    “You’re in trade room is because you have value around the league ... you're going to be the first thing thrown into a trade conversation ... But when you first initially hear rumors ... it's a mental war. Warfare is exhausting.” [13:37]

• Karl-Anthony Towns’ (“Cat’s”) evolution as a Knick:

  “He wasn't looking for the same type of stuff that he's looking for now ... the way he's playing now just really makes sense. And it's like with him having his back to the wall ... I think it’s inspiring more than it is intimidating.” [15:12]

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Defensive Matchups & Bridges v. Maxey

[17:17 – 19:11]

• Shumpert praises Mikal Bridges for his defense:

  “He keeps the train on the tracks ... He takes the right shot, which could lead to an offensive rebound ... As far as just being a solid player, Mikal Bridges is one of those guys.” [17:35]

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LeBron James' Future

[19:11 – 21:46]

• The possibility of LeBron’s retirement or a Cleveland return:

  • Shumpert:

    “He could go to Cleveland. That would be a nice story ... But when you see LeBron still go through the playoffs and still be productive in this way, why not?” [19:35]

• The importance of letting legends “call their own shot.”

  • “To be able to decide what you want to do ... if you trust anybody with knowing their own body, you could trust LeBron James.” [20:25–21:03]

• Austin Reaves’ playoff struggles are contextualized by injury recovery and tough OKC defense.

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Signature Banter: “That Guy” & Monument Park Debate

[25:32 – 40:59]

• “That Guy Thursday”:

  • Goofy banter on fans “who set themselves on fire and bathe in pork and beans.”
    • (“I was talking about the Bills fans.” — Rosenberg, [26:11])
  • Light jabs at childhood dinners and peculiar household foods.

• Monument Park Segment:

  • Debate ignited by Chris Russo’s take that broadcasters don’t belong in Monument Park.

    • Rosenberg defends broadcasters’ spot:

      “He was as much a part of the experience as any player. He was part of the experience.” [32:27]

    • Michael Kay, nuanced position:

      “This is not about [Sterling] as much as it's ... I get what Russo's saying ... I'm not trying to diminish it ... But personally ... I didn't play.” [30:59, 38:53]

  • Mark Feinstein argues for less hierarchy:

    “The point of it all is entertainment ... John Sterling ... brought immense joy ... So I think celebrating them all in the same place, do we need to have this hierarchy?” [33:42]

  • Rosenberg on history:

    “You cannot tell the history of the New York Yankees and not talk about the significance of John Sterling...” [35:00]

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Yankees and MLB Check-In

[42:51 – 49:48]

• Yankees cruise despite injuries:
  • "The Yankees continue to win ... but the Rays have won nine of their last ten. So they started the day just a half game back." [43:54]
• Discuss the weird American League standings:
  • “How can we be into play on May 7th ... and there are two teams above .500 an entire league?” [45:20]
• McMahon heats up; possible call-up for prospect Spencer Jones.

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Memorable Quotes

• Shumpert on Knicks fans:

  "Even though we complain, we still love our gm, we still love our owner. Like, they don't know how to say it, but they like ... You gotta talk to him, you gotta argue with them. You act like it's complaining, but it's not complaining. You love doing it." [09:42]

• Shumpert on being trade bait:

  "You're in trade room is because you have value around the league ... so you're gonna be the first thing thrown into a trade conversation. So I had to grasp it from that." [13:37]

• Peter Rosenberg on Monument Park:

  “He was as much a part of the experience as any player ... He was part of the experience.” [32:27] “You cannot tell the story of the New York Yankees and not talk about the significance of John Sterling...” [35:00]

• Michael Kay on fame and perspective:

  “Don't put a banner up with a microphone and my name on it. That feels kind of weird.” [38:56]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Knicks/OG Anunoby Injury: [03:54–07:27]
• J.R. Smith Fan Incident: [07:27–10:56]
• Detroit & Knicks Playoff East: [10:56–12:47]
• Trade Rumors/Team Pressure: [13:17–16:20]
• Bridges v. Maxey Matchup: [17:17–19:11]
• LeBron’s Next Move: [19:11–21:46]
• “That Guy” Segment: [25:32–30:31]
• Monument Park Broadcaster Debate: [30:59–40:59]
• Yankees/Rays/MLB Standings: [42:51–49:48]

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Tone & Style Notes

The conversation is energetic, banter-filled, and driven by both nostalgia and hardcore sports analysis. The group blends insight, humor, and classic “family” ribbing—true to the New York sports radio tradition. Shumpert brings both player perspective and warmth, and the hosts don’t shy from hot takes or sentimentality.

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Summary Usefulness:
This summary distills all the key sports news, debates, and personality moments from the show. A must-read for those catching up on the Knicks’ playoff hopes, New York fan culture, and the intersecting legacies of players and broadcasters in the sports world.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Michael Kay]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Mark Feinstein]

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[Michael Kay]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Mark Feinstein]

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[Mark Feinstein]

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[Michael Kay]

Yeah.

[Mark Feinstein]

There's some people who can be thrown off by when you mix these two things, you know, like, for example, they were just. I. There were just baseball highlights going on. And then it said cursed and Danhausen walked out. It is a wild time that we're living.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't like it, but they don't ask me.

[Mark Feinstein]

You're not making the call. You're saying, right, that's fine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I made, or actually Allen made a call. Yeah. Hey, Iman Shumpert. Come on. Don't think I said please. Of course I don't think I said it. Well, you could have demanded you're significant enough, but you're not.

[Michael Kay]

A bad guy would not demand that of Shump. No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he enjoys value here on Don. Hannah Rosenberg, welcome to the show.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

What's going on, y'? All? Thanks for having me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Always.

[Michael Kay]

It's good to have you. Is the OG Anunoby news with a hamstring being in a day to day situation and not something that could be long term because we know how dangerous these things are when it comes to hamstrings and such. Do you look at that as best possible outcome for the Knicks when you consider, you know, two years ago, he really couldn't play for the rest of the series?

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

Without a doubt. I think that him having this, I mean, he lost minutes. He's a durable guy. He's a guy that usually stays healthy. I can only imagine what he's like in the weight room. I don't think it's too bad a scare, even if he has to sit out. I think that's exactly what you do as the Knicks. You go out here and you give yourself the best chance just in case something like this happens. So for them to go up the way they've gone up, they took care of home court. If there is a possible need to sit out for a Game three or four, game four, it can happen because they've done their work early and he's been a huge part of that. So I think they'll be fine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I'm totally with you, but we were talking about it earlier. Those game threes are scary. You look at best of seven series. Even though I think the Knicks are the superior team here. You just don't want to give the Sixers life, especially with the Game four back in Philadelphia, as much as you want to rest OG And I think that's the smart thing to do. Boy, you'd love to just be able to put your foot on their throat here in game three.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

Without a doubt. But that's the beauty of having the offense ran through a Karl Anthony Towns. That's the beauty in having a Jalen Brunson that can now, you know, take heed and say, hey, I'm going to make sure to make a little bit more of a ball dominant game because I need to make sure I get the right guy shot. They have the capability to do these things. It's just that's not something you want them doing for an entire series. But the great thing about the Knicks is them finding that we can play through Cat. And playing through Cat took a lot of pressure off a lot of guys. There's still going to be shots available. There's still going to be puts to the basket with that late pass to the rim. There's still going to be things available to manufacture manufacturer offense outside of that. So I don't think the Knicks need to panic in that sense. They've played in other ways. They've won plenty of games where OG wasn't even playing that well offensively. Maybe he wasn't that involved. Maybe he didn't get going defensively or on the rebounds. And they still find ways. So that's a good thing about the Knicks is they've had to find ways in previous series and previous years. So this is a good team to stay together for that.

[Mark Feinstein]

Sean, let's assume everything with OG is what it appears to be sitting right here two games into the conference semis. Should the Knicks win the East,

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

I think So I think so. I think we thought so early on. And the surge of offense and the flurry of threes that Boston is designed to do with them having that and having Jason Tatum. It brings in the question that the Knicks had a longer road than we once thought. But I don't think anything's changed in what we expect out of the Knicks, or else the Knicks still have that pressure because they are that team. But I think that they are stepping up to the plate and handling it really well. At least they've shown that in the first two games.

[Michael Kay]

Shump, did you see J.R. get caught up in the crowd after game one outside the building?

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

You know, I saw it. You know, I saw it. I called my boy to make sure he was all right, man. He was laughing. He was a good spirits. He just was trying to figure out why everybody pulled their phone out instead of picking him up. He was like, I feel like it was kids. He said, I felt like it was kids and babies under me. I'm trying to get help. And they just taking more pictures and video, laughing. He's like, it was crazy. But you cannot go out of there safe.

[Mark Feinstein]

We got to protect you at all costs.

[Michael Kay]

That was the next thing I was going to say. I am not allowing you out there. Like it's become a thing. I was walking.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

I think this is. Fans are pretty cool. Fans are pretty cool around me, man. Usually I'll be having. That's why I try to wear the suit. When you got the suit on, it's hard to man in the suit. It's just tough, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the thing is that I don't think it's. There's a lot of Knick fans out there for sure, but I think there's a lot of troublemakers, people that want to try to get their 15 minutes just showing up and not really caring about the team. And I think that's what's causing a lot of the problems. Because, listen, I've dealt with Nick fans. I mean, they're. They see a former Nick go down, they're going to help them out. I think there was a lot of just people wanting to be there more than celebrating a Knicks win.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

Yeah, he said it was. He said it was just too much love. He said it wasn't. It wasn't a bad thing going on, but it was just a little too much love. Yes, yes, you can. Clearly you can over love, over water, a plant. You can do it all. Because they all had a little bit too much. Much. Do you say, you know what? Enough love, guys, Enough love.

[Michael Kay]

Do you remember. I don't remember that stuff. The, the years you were with the Knicks and you guys made the playoffs and stuff. And I know, you know, no offense, it wasn't a long run like we're seeing these days.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

Right.

[Michael Kay]

But still, after one playoff, that was not.

[Mark Feinstein]

No, it wasn't needed.

[Michael Kay]

I'm just saying, like, we got to bring context to this whole thing. But there was, look, there was a couple of years ago, they won one damn playoff game and they shut down the 7th Avenue. That's not something. You don't remember any of that from back then. Right. This feels like a new generation thing that's going on.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

Yeah. But it's also, they are capable. I think that when you stack up the Eastern Conference right now, especially with what they were assembled for, I think New York can just feel it. It's not a thing. And what I've realized from, you know, being a Chicago guy and coming to be a part of the New York culture, the knit culture, is just them saying we, even though we complain, we still love our gm, we still love our owner. Like, they don't know how to say it, but they like, it's like a cousin that you just, you can't shake that cousin. You gotta talk to him, you gotta argue with them. You act like it's complaining, but it's not complaining. You love doing it. And when the Nick fans, fans look at that, I think that they sit confidently thinking we got that close and it wasn't a fluke. And I'm willing to say it wasn't a fluke when I look at it, especially after I saw that convincing win that they just pulled off for Game 2, knowing that Joel wasn't going to play at least either a game two or a game three, because we knew that wheel was going to wear down. And I can only assume the Knicks knew that too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Joining us here on Don Han and Rosenberg. Tomorrow, game three from Philadelphia Sixers and the Knicks. And New York is up two games to none in that series. You know, Peter just asked you about the Knicks being the best in the east and the number one seeds, Detroit, and everybody kind of wrote them off when they were down 31 to Orlando, but now they've quietly won four in a row. Can Detroit play their way back into being the big time threat or do you think that the Knicks have already proven they're clearly the best team?

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

I think that the Knicks have pressure on them to win this series. I think that Detroit, though, number one, they don't have the pressure that the Knicks have on them. They didn't have the expectation. They weren't favored. I think Detroit plays free like that because they kind of play with the Church's money a little bit. You know what I mean? It's. You're not really in trouble, so to speak, if you don't fare well in this situation. I think that it would be a disappointment, don't get me wrong, to have done all this work, grabbed the number one seed, done everything that you were supposed to do, and then not be successful. But I don't think we all expect Detroit to get a championship. I think they're a player or two away. Kunningham is responsible for at least 50 to 60 points every night. I mean, he does a damn good job at it. But I can't imagine that this continues round after round. Point you wear down, or people wear you down shop.

[Mark Feinstein]

Is there a certain point that this team can get to, you know, a certain number of wins in this playoff in which you could say, yeah, I'm pretty sure there are not any major changes this off season. Is there any sort, like, if they make the Finals, you're confident they'll stand pat, or do you just think it's a wait and see how it looks?

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

I think that the Knicks stay together if they get to the Finals. They just. They have to come out of the east, though. I think that without coming out of the east, they will feel some sort. Somewhat of some pressure. They just. They just did a lot for this. They did a lot of this.

[Michael Kay]

Yeah.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

You know what I mean? You don't want to feel like it's slipping through your fingers. You want to do it now, before it doesn't become about management. It becomes about players feeling like we're not doing enough. Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Especially with the rumors about Giannis and who might end up going in a deal if they try to get you. So how much of a conversation is that, that in the room shump that when. When you're losing or you're having conversations during shoot, do you. Is that something you're conscious of, of what might happen if we fall short?

[Michael Kay]

You lived it, chump. You lived it, didn't you? Back then?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean.

[Michael Kay]

Yeah.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

I mean, you. You'll know that. You'll know the reality of, you know, I could get chopped like. And what I understood back then was, you know, it took my brother to explain it to me. He like, you not in trade rumors every weekend because you not nothing. You in trade room is because you have value around the league. People see you, and they see that you have value, they want to use you. So you're gonna be the first thing thrown into a trade conversation. So I had to grasp it from that. But when you first initially hear rumors, you just confused. Cause it's like, why didn't nobody talk to me direct? Like, that's usually the problem where it's like, if management, if people are coming and they're having a conversation, which I think they usually do that after your. You know, after your first contract, then you start getting in, you know, getting into being able to talk to the higher ups and have that conversation. Unless you're already one of the standout guys for your ball club. But then they'll. They'll have you more in the loop to where it's not such a surprise. But when you first get in there, it's just like, yeah, you're in trade conversations, you're trying to play mentally. It's a mental war. Warfare is exhausting. I can only imagine what guys go through, but that's the nature of the beast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the guy that I think of when we have this conversation is Cat, right? He could be a guy that could be part of a forever situation in New York, or he could be a guy that gets dealt again and maybe gets the moniker of. You can't win with him. It feels like, of all the players, he might have more on the line than he does.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

That's the beauty. But that's the beauty of having it on the line. When you got something to play for, you got something to inspire you, you play a little different. I think we, little by little see it and notice it in Cat, him being able to make the adjustment that he didn't, he wasn't able to make in the beginning of the season. You got to realize in the beginning of the season, he was lost out there. He didn't understand where he fit in. He ran some of these same actions that he's running now. He didn't run them with the same type of confidence. He wasn't looking for the same type of stuff that he's looking for now. He wasn't using people for the late pass to free himself up with offense. Like, the way he's playing now just really makes sense. And it's like with him having his back to the wall in this dynamic of, where will Giannis go? Should we rebuild? Should we get the team like this? Should we go this direction? Like, when you start talking about all that, he can hear it. But I think it's inspiring more than it is intimidating.

[Michael Kay]

Is it like that? Like when you went to Cleveland, you walk in knowing. Yeah, like that. You talk about the. The inspiration, the pressure. The. Like, LeBron, like, I'm. I gotta get. I gotta get a chip here. Like, that was his goal of going back to Cleveland, was winning one there.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

Without a doubt. So. So you felt that way when you traded there. Without a doubt. When you get traded there, you walk into something saying, hey, you know, at first, you feeling like you're unwanted, you know, on the other. On the other end of it, you just like, damn, they. You know, they kind of gave up throwing the child on me, whatever. And then you walk out of that feeling, and you walk into open arms, and they're like, now that you and Junior are here, we really know the direction we going. Like, y' all make this make sense. Like, everything you do over there, we just need you to do it over here. So there's an excitement in that. You know what I mean? But that pressure while you're on the other team, I wouldn't replace that for anything, especially not for Cat, because I think that. That he's thriving in it. Some players need that. They need that extra push, and if that's what it took for Cat, that's what it took. But right now, he needs to stay where he's at mentally, because that space is great for what the team needs right now.

[Michael Kay]

He's in a good spot right now. You would appreciate what Bridges is doing with Maxi in this series so far, right? The way he's really making him work, making. He's turning the ball over. He's got Maxi in a little bit of a. Of a torture chamber right now. What are you seeing from him in that matchup?

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

I think his length. He's using his length, and Mikel's a guy that's done that previously, you know what I'm saying? Throughout the playoffs last year, and you know what I'm saying this year, it's just. We've been so focused on, you know, the poor shooting performances that have been happening, which I know he'll figure it out. All players go through something and have to figure it out, man. And I think he doesn't get enough credit for being solid sometimes because it's like, we did so much to get you. We expect more. You know what I mean? But as far as just being a solid player, Mikel Bridges is one of those guys that makes the right play. He doesn't do too much. He keeps the train on the tracks. A lot of times, even though he Takes a shot and might not make a shot. He takes the right shot, which could lead to an offensive rebound, which could lead to another action for another player. So I don't think that with him not playing extremely well off the gate, we should negate the rest of the things he's doing well. But that's what he got paid to do. Like, we knew that Mike Elbridge to come in there and defend. We knew that he makes it tough for positions one through four. It's like him showing his value. It just. Every series, you get shown what you can do, you know, a little differently. And I think it's exciting to know that you can go through it. So it's going to be good when we rewrite, retell the story. And Mikel Bridges could come out of this having a terrific playoff. Do you know what I'm saying? That's how the NBA it is. That's how it goes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Aman, earlier in the conversation, you brought up LeBron James. Tonight they're playing game three against the Thunder. Very possible. They could be down three games to none. We could be looking at maybe this weekend, the last game ever of LeBron James. Do you think it'll be over this year, or do you think he comes back and will it be with the Lakers? Where could he go?

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

I mean, he could go to Cleveland. That would be a nice story, I'm telling you, but I don't know, man, it's gotta be cool to even be able to make this decision at that age. Whatever he chooses to do and give back to the game, I'm cool with it. At first I was like, I don't think people should just be doing that. It's, you know, other spots in this league that, you know, need to be filled by some young guys that never got a chance. But when you see LeBron still go through the playoffs and still be productive in this way, why not?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love it. I want these guys. Tear the uniform off them, right?

[Michael Kay]

Play until you can't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you have to.

[Michael Kay]

You just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You got to be able to appreciate the call your own shot, right? To be. To be able to decide what you want to do. I'm sure he'd want to. Now the question, will the Lakers want him back?

[Michael Kay]

I would say, why not?

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

Who knows?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

You know, I. I can't imagine not wanting LeBron James back, especially not after you saw what he just did. I don't think that he's playing, you know, I think he's adjusting the way he plays to keep himself from getting hurt. I think it's smart. I think a lot of time. Yeah, if you're gonna trust anybody. Yeah, if you trust anybody with knowing their own body, you could trust LeBron James.

[Michael Kay]

You know, it'd be nice if Austin Reeves showed up tonight. That'd be nice. That'd be helpful because he was.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

That would be nice. But we have to understand. We have to understand that Austin Reeves had no bleak injury. He sat out his. He's not going to be as in shape. We saw that when he first came back against Houston. He struggled. There was times that he just struggled. His movements. Now you have to add that to the in shape and in your face OKC defense. And it just. It takes an adjustment. You know what I'm saying? Every series is different, but Austin Reaves is right on cue to be able to deal with that. His body and his mind is gonna have to now get adjusted to say, okay, we are playing OKC and it's full tilt boogie the whole time.

[Michael Kay]

Look at him bringing rationality to this conversation. All we're doing is just screaming at a player needs to be great. And he's like, hey, listen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, like, listen, you're really good at this, man. Appreciate you continue doing what you're doing. Love to have you on down the road.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

I got you, man. Whenever y' all need me, tap in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Awesome.

[Michael Kay]

All right.

[Mark Feinstein]

Be safe out there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This was great. Yeah. Listen, I know you'll be tempted. Don't go out there.

[Michael Kay]

If the next 28 with the fans, it's going to sound like a drop. It's not. I was walking out of the garden with Larry Johnson. Okay. And we were going out a side exit for exactly the reason as we're walking out. And we were both talking about Junior's experience. And he said, that's why I'm walking out this way with you. He's like, don't get me in there. Like now the players are a little aware of it and they're kind of concerned because it used to be nice to go out high five some people.

[Mark Feinstein]

No, it's just too much.

[Michael Kay]

But the JR experience kind of had. Has a lot of. Oh, yeah, Nick players. I'd had that thought even before then shook a little.

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[Don Hahn]

thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Mark Feinstein]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. We all have that one friend.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm talking about the Yo Yos who set themselves on fire and bathe in pork and beans.

[Don Hahn]

Or know that we. One person. I'm here with my family, who can't help but be.

[Michael Kay]

He's not cool.

[Mark Feinstein]

His voice is weird. He's kind of a dork. His brother's a tool. His girlfriend's annoying.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

That guy. I didn't know it was banner night. We won't be out for that.

[Don Hahn]

It's time for that Guy Thursday.

[Michael Kay]

Hey, guys. Anyone want to play some ball with

[Don Hahn]

Don Hahn and Rosenberg?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's just being that guy.

[Mark Feinstein]

Don, tell me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Mark Feinstein]

Who have you ever known who sets themselves on fire? And not only that part, also, in addition to that, bathes in pork and beans. I do want to know that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't even remember saying that, but I was talking about the Bills fans.

[Mark Feinstein]

I'm talking about the ones who set themselves on fire and bathe in pork and beans. Where did it come from? How did it. It's just genius.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, thank you.

[Mark Feinstein]

You really should be proud of it.

[Michael Kay]

When's the last time you had pork and beans?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I gotta tell you, I was just thinking.

[Mark Feinstein]

Almost never.

[Peter Rosenberg]

My mom.

[Mark Feinstein]

Not big in the Jewish household.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

My mom would always serve it with dinner. I don't know if my dad liked it. You know, hot dogs. Yeah, you like hot dogs. Or even, like, if it would just be one of the sides, Right?

[Mark Feinstein]

Why don't they just put cyanide in a bowl?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, listen, dog, pork and beans.

[Mark Feinstein]

Literally, that was. Put a gun in your mouth.

[Michael Kay]

Listen, that was dinner for us. Can you, like, for the rest of the night? You had no choice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, forget it. Well, our house, I'll tell you in the middle.

[Mark Feinstein]

It was a very, very, very fine house.

[Michael Kay]

Oh, that one, too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jalen starts singing that song.

[Mark Feinstein]

How?

[Michael Kay]

Because she did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's weird how she just absorbs certain music. It's in the car. Because now they've gotten beyond the right. I don't have to play Kids Bop anymore. So they kind of just listen to whatever's on. And now she just loves that song. It's a great song, by the way.

[Michael Kay]

Eagles Hotel California Channel. You see it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, they're gonna have an Eagles channel.

[Michael Kay]

They just got a little alert from Sirius.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, can they keep it? How about keeping it? They keep doing that with the Billy Joel Channel.

[Michael Kay]

Yeah, I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They put the Billy Joel Channel. It's on for a month and a half, then they take it away. And then, like three months later, oh, it's back. Listen, it's Billy Joel. All right. They've got a full time Tom Petty. They've got a full time Bruce Springsteen, Grateful Dead, Pearl Jam. You can't have a full time Billy Joel. Or is it just a money thing?

[Mark Feinstein]

I don't know.

[Michael Kay]

Might be, might be just like a deal, like short term. I don't know. Mark Feinstein. You like him?

[Peter Rosenberg]

We love him. I love him. Family? Oh, he's, yeah, really close.

[Michael Kay]

MLB.com Great guy. I, I, great respect for him. But can I nominate him for that guy? Oh, but I like it.

[Mark Feinstein]

I don't.

[Michael Kay]

No, I like it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I won't let you.

[Michael Kay]

This is, I like what he's doing here.

[Mark Feinstein]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I don't dig his own grave.

[Michael Kay]

No, I like this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Mark Feinstein]

What did he do?

[Michael Kay]

He put out a tweet.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Good friend.

[Michael Kay]

Crazy stat. Pretty much sums up New York baseball at this point. Aaron Judge leads the majors with 15 home runs. Bo Bichette leads the Mets with 16 RBI.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Again, didn't need to do it, but he did. I don't know. I mean, it is an interesting stat though. Only the Mets and Yankees are always going to be connected at the hip.

[Michael Kay]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

As much as people say they don't play in the same league, they only play a handful of times a year. They both share the same stage. Right. So that is an interesting stat. How good are the Yankees? Well, they've got a leader in home runs with 15 and the Mets leader in RBI is 16. Well, the Mets are trying to make up for lost time here. They're trying to win again. They're fourth in a row. They're up to one in the bottom of the fifth.

[Michael Kay]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

My. That guy is a friend of the show.

[Mark Feinstein]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Chris Russo.

[Michael Kay]

Oh, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, as we know back on Monday, we lost John Sterling at the age of 87. So they started making the rounds. Does John Sterling belong in Monument Park? And the answer is without question, yes. Because I'm sorry, Bob Shepard is in Monument Park. Right. They also have. Mel Allen is in there. And I would, you may disagree, but I don't know if Phil Rizzuto would make it into Monument park just as a player. But because of his broadcasting, it became a no brainer and he's a Monument park. And they actually list, you know, obviously infielder and broadcaster. But you know, Mel is in there and Mel Allen's in there. Bob Shepard is in there. So I think John Sterling, 5,000 plus consecutive games, you know, being there for as long as he was six years. Yeah, he's, he's going to Go. Interesting take from Russo. He doesn't believe that any broadcasters should be in Monument Park. He believes the Monument park should be just for players, coaches, managers, executives, people that affected the outcome of the game.

[Michael Kay]

I get what he's saying, and I kind of. I kind of agree.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right.

[Michael Kay]

Well, Monument park is. Should be sacred ground. Now, it doesn't mean you can't be in, you know, like the hall of Fame part. Like, you could still put, I think the broadcasters, you could have that division in a Yankee hall of Fame. But Monument park, especially Monument park does have this feel of something that is a little more sacred to players and managers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Michael Kay]

Don't you think? But, you know, again, this is not this. I absolutely adore John Sterling and the career he had and the voice that he was and all that stuff. This is not a. This is not about him as much as it's. I get what Russo's saying. I mean, Donnie, you're talking about the games that were won and the championships that are won and the players who did the job. That's why you get a monument. That's why you get the plaque and all that stuff. Now, it doesn't mean that you can't be honored in a different way, but I don't know if it's that way. Does that make sense?

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, you're entitled to your opinion.

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[Mark Feinstein]

It's not just an opinion.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just think that guy on the week that he died.

[Michael Kay]

Well, I don't think he needed. Yeah, yeah. Should he have waited till July? Sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because here's the point, is that it's a moot point because there's announcers already

[Michael Kay]

going to do it. Yeah, of course.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So obviously, if you're going to put announcers in there, why wouldn't you put Sterling? I know Michael would deny it, but if Michael. And Michael's only 65 years old. Michael's done Yankee games for 34 years. If he does it for another, you know, 10, which I think is definitely in the cards for him. And he was an announcer for the Yankees for 45 years.

[Michael Kay]

He's going.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Guess what? He's going in there, too.

[Michael Kay]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I understand it's about wins and losses. Right. But, you know, you didn't. You put Dom Mattingly in there. He didn't win a championship. So it's not about championships. It's about greatness.

[Michael Kay]

It's greatness.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. And John Sterling was great. And I'm sorry, maybe because I'm an announcer and I've always, even before I started doing play by play, I always connected with people that did the play by play. I loved Bob Murphy, you know, and his. He's recognized along with Ralph Kiner at Citi Field because I think they're so much a part of the experience of being a Yankee fan or being a Met fan or being a fan of any team, especially in baseball where there's so many games. Think of how John Sterling was the narrator for all the great moments that you got to see and then when you got to the postseason and television was out of it. Right? You wanted to hear those calls of Sterling, for all those big home runs and all those big moments. He was as much a part of the experience as any player. He was part of the experience.

[Michael Kay]

But was he part of what happened, though? Like. Like, do you put him on the same level? So you're putting him on the same level as a Don Mattingly

[Mark Feinstein]

level. You're celebrating him in the same place.

[Michael Kay]

What's the difference? What's the difference of that? That's semantics. They're both in the same place. That means you're pretty much. They're on the same level. You're as equal to importance in Yankee history as to the enjoy.

[Mark Feinstein]

But this is where we start taking ourselves too seriously. The point of it all is entertainment, right? And if you're a Don Mattingly or whoever, the players who you adore, you brought immense joy to fans. John Sterling, if everyone feels that way and everyone's on board, brought immense joy to fans for a long period of time, right? So I think celebrating them all in the same place, do we need to have this hierarchy? Isn't it just like a little bit too serious and you know what I mean? Like, I hear your argument, but also,

[Michael Kay]

if you were a player, wouldn't you

[Mark Feinstein]

be like, you know what? The players get enough. You know what?

[Michael Kay]

No, no.

[Mark Feinstein]

I'm tired of hearing about the players. Oh, to the play. If you made it to Monument Park, Yankee Stadium, you have been getting fluffed up for the last 25 years. You can't share the space with the

[Peter Rosenberg]

guy you had to call. The argument that I would make, the argument I would make to Alan is they're not all on the same level because Reggie Jackson's not in the same building as Babe Ruth. But they're put. They're both in Monument Park. Ah, right.

[Michael Kay]

No, that's not a. Huh.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So there's obviously different levels to it.

[Michael Kay]

They both wor uniform, they wore the

[Peter Rosenberg]

uniform, but the guy that was there called every game that was a party. You talk about the championships, right? Part of your memory of those championships is John calling what those guys were doing 5,000 consecutive games.

[Michael Kay]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Traveling with the team, being a part of the team. I believe the announcers are part of the team, especially radio and baseball, where you're calling every single game. Every single. And you're a part of it and you're there and you're delivering the message to all of those fans. I'm sorry, John Sterling is just as much a part of those championships. Did he affect the outcome of those championships? No, but he enhanced the experience for the fans. But that's the whole Monument park is. Is come see the greatness of the Yankees and you walk through there and you cannot tell the story of the New York Yankees and not talk about the significance of John Sterling to that organization.

[Michael Kay]

Well, guess who's telling the story. The voice of John Sterling. Okay? That's the whole idea of what he did. And that's what his greatness was. It doesn't make it. And I'm not trying to diminish it. You're making me out to be a bad guy right now. I'm that guy. Now I'm that guy. All I'm doing is understand now, we all agree for doggy. This was not the time. You could have waited. Right? We all agree this was not the time to do it, but he did it. All I'm saying is that I understand his perspective. That's what I'm trying to say. I understand it. Will I. Will it bother me when they put it? No, it'll have. It will not bother me at all. I will celebrate it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know. You know, I understand. What's interesting with Chris is that he still accepted the invitation to be on a float when the Yankees, you know, won the World Series in 96.

[Michael Kay]

As a business.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because you know what? It was part of the experience of listening to the Yankees win the championship and listening to Mike and Chris. But we all.

[Michael Kay]

He didn't do that as a fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Part of the experience. And if you're going to tell about the history of the Yankees, you got to talk about Mel Allen who was like there from 1939-64 and then came back and was a part of the 70s. Bob Shepard, who was introducing Mickey Mantle and Derek Jeter.

[Michael Kay]

Amazing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm sorry. That's all part of the experience and the level of conceit play. You didn't choose the players. You weren't a manager. Like, I even hate that for the hall of Fame, it's got to be the Ford Frick Award or it's got to be in hockey. It's got to be the Foster Hewitt Award. Like, we got to acknowledge they're not a player, Peter. Oh, let's not insult the players by putting a common man into the hall of Fame. But you don't think that the people delivering that message and delivering it as well, and as long as John Sterling did isn't significant to the organization.

[Michael Kay]

It is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just because you didn't put. Everybody's got a job to do. Right.

[Michael Kay]

Yeah, it is. But again, I will say you still. There is a line.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, there's only a line. You decide to create a line. I think everybody knows the line when they look at the monument, they will see. It'll say broadcaster or it says outfielder or it says pitcher.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

Yeah.

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Why does there have to be. Why does there always have to be a line? Oh, the. Don't touch the players. They're. You know why?

[Mark Feinstein]

I think Allen's truly that guy and it deserves taking over the segment even beyond Russo is.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

I.

[Mark Feinstein]

He's being that guy. He's fine with it.

[Michael Kay]

I said that already.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're fine with it.

[Mark Feinstein]

You're just presenting again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's a big Russo guy. I am, but I'm honoring Russo, my love for him by debating because he loved doing that well part.

[Michael Kay]

Did I not say that? I'm just trying to. I'm trying to explain his perspective on it. I wasn't saying that I might have a problem with it. I literally said it'll. It's gonna happen and I'll be fine with it. But listening to, like, hearing the point he's making. I get the point. Because to be honest, it'll never happen for me. Right. But what I'm saying is, for me, it would feel kind of weird because I'm like, I didn't play, but. Right. Like, that's just. Again, it doesn't mean I'm right. But personally.

[Mark Feinstein]

But they put broadcasters on the hall of Fame.

[Michael Kay]

I understand. I mean, I understand that. But that a part of me would feel like. I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, you don't think. Let me ask you this.

[Michael Kay]

Don't put a banner up with a microphone and my name on it. That feels kind of weird.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why?

[Michael Kay]

Because.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because it's like you're as significant and you're still in the infancy compared to John Sterling. But if you're still doing this at 87 and you're on year 50 of covering Knicks basketball.

[Michael Kay]

I am. I've had more kids.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Mike Breen is in the hall of Fame. Mike Breen going back to his radio days has been calling Nick games for over 30 years.

[Michael Kay]

There's three names in new case. Three names. You know them. Marty Glickman.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

Yes.

[Michael Kay]

Marv Albert. Mike Breen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. And Mike Breen, when it's all said and done, may be even more significant than the other two. And if they want to honor him with a banner and a microphone. Mike Breen, you don't think you hang in the rafters. What's, you know, Bruce Springsteen's concerts and how many times Billy Joel fish with their, you know, the baker does it.

[Mark Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Come on, man. We're getting a little kooky with it. I understand it's Monument park, but man, we're talking about a guy that called 5,000 consecutive games.

[Michael Kay]

As I said, I have no problem with it.

[Mark Feinstein]

I know.

[Michael Kay]

I'm trying to like, explain why he would say that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was all part of the experience. Remember, what you're doing is you're get whether it's the hall of Fame, Monument park retired number. What you're doing is it's a place where fans can go or look up at the rafters and want to learn about the history of their organization. And you cannot tell the history of the New York Yankees without talking about Mel Allen, Bob Shepard and John Sterling. Can't do it. You'll be doing a disservice to the fans if they weren't brought up. I'm sure there'll be a yankeeography on John Sterling at some point. On yes.

[Michael Kay]

Which would be weird because who would voice it? Because you really need him to voice it. I would need an AI voice of John Sterling telling the John Sterling Yankees.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Knowing John, he might have already recorded it before he passed in anticipation of the.

[Mark Feinstein]

Because he knows exactly what's happening.

[Michael Kay]

Because we really need me on this call.

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Mark Feinstein]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

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[Michael Kay]

They're both in the American League.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the Yankees have to be in the division where the other team is just a game back of them. And even in the loss column, Yankees are 26 and 12. And the Rays go into tonight's game in Boston 24, 4 and 12.

[Michael Kay]

How do the Dodgers feel? Because they're in the same spot thing

[Peter Rosenberg]

they're 23 and 14 and they've got a half game lead on the Padres. I mean, while everybody else in their division is under.500.

[Michael Kay]

Yeah, it's. It's wild.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But at least the national league has got 5, 6, 7, 8 teams that are buff. There you go. How can we be into play on May 7th?

[Michael Kay]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And there are two teams above.500 an entire league. Now that's not the Yankees fault, but baseball's in an odd place. Everybody's hurt. There are teams that just flat out stink.

[Michael Kay]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Remember we were talking of the Twins? Hey, the Twins off to a good start. They're now six games under.500, which is

[Michael Kay]

going to make the trade deadline real interesting, don't you think?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, not if you only got like a handful of teams looking for players.

[Michael Kay]

But that's what makes it interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The entire American League is going to get traded to the National.

[Michael Kay]

But that it is now on the Yankee front. Can I point something out? Yes. The Domingo's injury, that sucks. And Anthony said in my ear, so I'll give him credit for saying that it's true. If not now, for Spencer Jones, when.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, we said it the last time we thought. Remember when we thought Dominguez was going to go on the il turned out he didn't have to.

[Michael Kay]

Yeah, but at some point, I mean, when is he going to get a look? So there's that, but so he comes out. So they got to do a lot of switcheroos going on. Right. Rosario goes out there to left field and McMahon comes in the game. Ryan McMahon quietly. Don't look now. You remember when he was on the interstate? No LONGER he's batting 223, which is not terrible in this game. He's two for three.

[Mark Feinstein]

He was one. Sit. Like, what was he, 160? So up to the 220s. That's. 220 is like passable baseball in 20, 26.

[Michael Kay]

It's not. It's not nothing, if you ask me. It's also what he's done of late. Like, that's the part that really kind of, you know, the bad start is one thing, but McMahon kind of, you know, kind of getting. Getting himself. Right. And he's not an automatic out like he was. I think, for the early part of April. It was embarrassing. Right. Every time he'd get up, he'd. He'd be a mess. That's something to keep an eye on because Anthony Volpe, he's not going anywhere. He's got to know, you know, don't. Don't move in with somebody. Don't rent short term. He might want to, like, get comfortable in that beautiful place called Scranton.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Is there a museum for the show? The office there?

[Mark Feinstein]

They gotta be. They have a. They have, like, a thing. You can do a tour, I believe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, I can't think of the name of the place, but there's a. There's a seafood restaurant that they'd go to on occasion for a party in the office. That does exist. I've been there. It's actually pretty cool. They've got, like, old toys and stuff there. Yes. Because Nancy had an aunt, so once a year we'd drive up the scran.

[Michael Kay]

Had an aunt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Her aunt. Aunt Maxine passed away. She had a boyfriend named Lovey. Wait, Lutzy. Lutzy. Excuse me.

[Michael Kay]

Lovey would have been interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He lived. Well, Lutzy's interesting too. And he lived. He died at like, 97. But it was like. It was adorable. They were dating and. And. And all that.

[Michael Kay]

Dating at 97?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, they were.

[Shump (Iman Shumpert)]

Yeah.

[Michael Kay]

Would you take it? He's still dating? That means.

[Mark Feinstein]

Are you kidding me? I think even Michael takes 97.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's interesting.

[Mark Feinstein]

He's taking 97.

[Michael Kay]

97, absolutely.

[Mark Feinstein]

That I'm. That is the one number I will say I'm.

[Michael Kay]

Text him right now. Text him right now.

[Mark Feinstein]

He might be that guy Peter saying

[Michael Kay]

you'll take 97 while he also still dating. That means active.

[Mark Feinstein]

He doesn't even care about dating. Trust me. But just 97. Michael just wants a lot.

[Michael Kay]

I don't think Michael ever turns it off. 97. Will he take it, yes or no?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think.

[Mark Feinstein]

I think he's taking 97. How do you not take 97 in this world that we're living in right now?

[Michael Kay]

Well, again, for Ryan McMahon, I'm taking 223 right now.

[Mark Feinstein]

That's the same thing. Like Ryan McMahon, you take 223, but

[Michael Kay]

that's a good sign.

[Peter Rosenberg]

These are all little things. You remember a month ago, we always

[Michael Kay]

focus on the net, oh, this guy got hurt. That guy got hurt. What's the, what's going on with Rice? He's not on the il, but he still missed his fifth straight game. But let's also look at some things that are happening right now. And Caballero, I am worried because he's been playing so well. Hopefully that's nothing. And it was just because it's a day game after a night game. But seeing McMahon kind of, you know, kind of get his numbers up, not automatic out, that's, that's important things to focus on. Ryan Weathers didn't get the start because he, he's been sick, lost some weight, already lost nine pounds so that they had to go with an opener and that whole thing. And they still ended up surviving because, well, the Yankees are really good. The old school way of get to your bullpen and beat the crap out of you in the late innings. So another win for the Yankees 26 and 12.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Michael Kay]

I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know it's good.

[Don Hahn]

Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York York app and your smart speakers.

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