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In the big city. Don Hahn and Rosenberg with you, looking forward to fraud alert Friday, which will be coming up in mere moments at the bottom of the hour. We've got our picks at 5:45. I'm all set. I'm just trying to allegate.
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Oh, you're locked in here.
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Oh, all right.
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Got to figure out because it's a tough week. There's a lot of big spreads and I'm always scared of going with the heavy favorites on the road.
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But that's Peter. He's leaning.
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Wow, that's easy.
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He said big spread.
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But wait.
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But he also said something there. He's so he's going for something with that.
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Yeah, I'm going, I got a hankering for something there. Just real quick because I'm sure we're going to get loaded up with the calls on what we just talked about because I think there's a bunch of different angles with that.
I love looking at the Dallas Cowboys wearing the blue jerseys. Now, I'm of a certain age where that's a thing. And I'm wondering if anybody even remembers why it's a thing. I'm wondering if Peter even remembers why it's a thing. But when I was growing up, you made the Cowboys wear the blue jerseys. So whenever the Giant, whenever the Giants played home against the Cowboys, they wore white. Forced them to wear the blues. Eagles did the same thing. Commanders or then Redskins did the same thing. I don't know why the Lions were motivated to do it, but it goes back to Super Bowl 5. The Cowboys lost to the Colts. Jim O' Brien kicked the game winning field goal. The Cowboys lost that super bowl while wearing the blue jerseys. And Tom Landry hated them. And you're forced to wear them. And it hasn't been a thing for like 20, 30 years. But I'm of a certain age. When I turned that game on and I saw them wearing the blue, I loved it. And they lost. I love that too. But why do people stop making them wear the blue?
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I, I just think, you know, you lose the tradition, you lose. Like it's the rivalry that, you know, coaches change and at some point you don't have that same, you know that that rivalry feeling doesn't exist when you make that many coaching changes and you just don't care.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, I got, I got More things to worry about than what freaking color the Cowboys are wearing in this.
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I know, but it just a cool thing.
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I'm not saying. No, no, I like that stuff. And there's always should be somebody in the organization that should have that aware, that awareness of, hey, no, when we play them, though, this is what we do. It's the same thing as when you go down to Miami and play them in September and you're always on the opposite side of the field where you're going to get the sun baking on you the whole time. Like, that's just somebody has to be aware that whoever is in charge, whoever the coach is this year or these two years, is you always get in the. Hey, by the way, we're wearing. We're wearing white. Making them wear blue.
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And listen, I've complained about it. I think one of the biggest flaws John Mara has, he's too close to it. He loves the team too much sometimes thinks too much with his heart. You would think he'd be the one owner that would remember that and say, no, no, we're there. We're in the blue.
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This is our tradition. This is what we do. Yeah, I'm surprised. I really am. I'm surprised at that, that that has gone away. But I just think it does when you just have so much turnover, that that connection to the past does get lost.
They say, that's somebody else.
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I always. The thing that's weird to me is that it doesn't happen more often. Like, why. Why don't teams just wear white at home more?
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Because they give. Come on, Peter. They're selling jerseys. They have the colorways. They have all the different looks, all the different things they want to sell and the darker stuff fans like. So you want to push those jerseys.
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I just never understood the. The, you know, what looks nice.
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Like, I'm sorry, Peter, but because you're saying it, it's sparking something in my mind. Like baseball, for the most part, you're getting different jerseys all the time. You don't know what they're going to wear. That's one thing why. And Don, you're going to throw up. But I'm saying it anyway. The Yankee pinstripe thing, to me is such a classic, beautiful thing. Because when you go to Yankee Stadium, you know what you're getting? You're getting that every time. Classic look. I miss in the NBA having an NBA team. Like, the Nick White jersey is such a great look. It's crisp, it's clean.
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But.
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But they don't ever wear that at home anymore. You know, it's.
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Wait, what's their, what's their average jersey at home?
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You'd say right now, blue for who?
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For the Knicks.
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Well, like tonight, I think they're wearing the black jersey tonight. If, I think if I'm. And they're nice, but it's just, they go to these different. They have a blue one that also is an alternate. And that's just become a thing on different theme nights because the NBA wants to kind of, you know, they want to sell jersey.
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I enjoyed the, the team at home wearing their whites. And then on the road you can wear different ones. You could wear, you know, like, you can wear your black commanders, you can wear their black alts, you could wear the burgundy. But like, I like when they wear white at home. But that's clearly what they do too.
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I think one of the things coming out of the lockout, I think it was around that time the NHL wanted to go back to its origins and have the darker sweaters for home teams and the, the road teams were white. And everybody thought it was a great idea because it was a throwback idea because that's what they did back in the, you know, 20s, 30s, and 50s and all. But now the complaint is, well, now I get the same team coming to my building every night. Somebody wearing white. I just see white. I'd rather my team wear white and then get the different colors to come into the building. Right. Otherwise interesting, you know, because when you're looking from afar, you can't like see light. So it's just white. You know, it could be the Dallas Stars, could be the Chicago Blackhawks, what they're wearing white. Have at least like different colors. So people have actually complained about. I wonder if they're ever, ever switched back to it. But why football felt like the darker color had to be home, I don't know. But I think it is to the point where I think people like the colors and just get bored with the white.
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I just think it, it does have to do with the fact that we are, you know, the jets team store, the Giants team store has those jerseys and they want to sell them and kids see them, families see them. You know, you've seen the players because it's home games. You know, if the other team's coming in with different colorful looking jerseys, different colors, different looks, you might get your fans saying, I kind of like those jerseys. If the Giants, they wear white, it's boring. The same old, same old. I do think there's a. It's obvious There's a marketing play here. It's why there's third jerseys and city edition and all that stuff. They're doing it for the obvious reasons.
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And.
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And you wear them at home because you want to show them off to your fans at home.
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But this is so. This is so random, though. I'm looking. I looked up the commanders one. Like, you can look up your team's jersey schedule.
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Yeah.
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And the commanders have their white jerseys that they wear like, eight different times, all road games except one at home. Then they have burgundy that they. They mix up. They have the super bowl era, which are gorgeous, by the way. I don't know if you guys didn't watch much of that Denver game, but. But I never thought I'd miss that classic era jersey so much. And then they have the black that they wear just once. But it's just weird, man. Like, I just. I always used to. I just took for granted. You wear white at home, you wear your color on the road, call it a day. That was how it felt like it was when we were kids, but no longer. 1-800-919-3776. I'm seeing the email starting to roll in. We always get an influx on Fridays to dhrespnmail.com because as people know that fraud Fridays come in, the email starts rolling. So I've been watching those pop up over the last hour. Let's go to our friend Felicia in Mississippi.
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Hey, Felicia. She had a good night.
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I did. I did, yes.
It was funny. My husband actually called it. I was joking. I was like, you know me, sometimes I can be a little bit on the negative side. And so I was like, we're probably going to lose. I just hope we play tough like we did when we played in Colorado and I. And we. We have, like, one of these little fake goal horn things. I got off like the Tick tock shop for $2, and he hit the horn and was like, they're gonna have two losses after night. He's not even really a hockey fan, but I was like, hey, you reverse jinx us.
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Wait, wait, wait. I need to know where you got the horn from. Is it like the actual. Does it have the same goal horn sound or is it just random?
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It does, but it's really distorted. I think I paid, like, $10 for it.
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My daughter loves.
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I can probably find the link again and just send it to, like, the DHR email.
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Okay.
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I'm curious, but, yeah, I'll find it. It wasn't expensive, and it took for. It took like, two Months to get there. So when I got it, it was another neat little surprise.
But my, my call is really random, dawn, and it's, it's. It's aimed at you. I called the other day, but you had to leave for the game, so I hung up. So, you know when you log into like your, well, your work computer, you have those random news sites that have all these clickbait articles. Well, one popped up on mine. I would have typically scrol, but it was. What is the. What do cardiologists agree is the age you should stop shoveling snow? Okay, yeah, so.
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This has been an issue for years. Don loves to risk his life shoveling.
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So they all. So whoever these are, none of them are named, of course. So these, these renowned cardiologists agree that after 65 is when you should really watch it. Unless you're in really good shape, which you are, Don, so. And you're not 65.
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But.
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So I just thought it was funny because as soon I thought I was like, there we go. Maybe that'll end the debate.
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Well, that's good news, man. Michael should know that because he thought my heart was going to explode. Like 20 years that I've been doing this.
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Alan, have you ever met someone who's. Have you ever met someone who's fighting so hard to get to shovel snow more than Don McGregor? Don's dead because he was changing a tire and his heart exploded.
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I don't change a tire either, apparently.
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I don't know, because. Listen, you're going to get there, Peter.
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No, I won't.
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No, hope you do.
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Well, I mean, about, about one day.
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Of age to do things, you know, I mean, you're still, you're still young enough that it's okay to go out and shovel snow. I don't want to be that guy that can't do things, you know, I still want to be able to carry my kids to bed if they fall asleep. I still want to be able to shovel the walk. I still want to be able to climb a ladder and put the, the tree topping on. I don't, I don't want to get to the point where like, oh, no, Dad's too old to do that.
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Aren't you afraid of that? No. Like, I, Like I look at my father in law, God bless him, Big Al, right? He can't stay off a ladder to just do like simple things like cleaning, you know, cleaning out the gutters. And my mother in law yells at him all the time because it's like, you're getting too old. To be doing stuff like that. But he's so used to just being that guy that does everything around here.
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Getting too old.
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He. He's like, I can't just sit here. Like, I needed to or hire someone. Well, they're not going to do it right. You know, And I'm. I'm like that around my house. Like, I want to do everything.
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It's not about he. That's an excuse that he's making that, oh, they won't do it right. No. I think there's something about knowing that I can still do stuff.
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Oh, yeah.
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But I guess used to it, though.
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You'Re always doing stuff. So to. To sat. To stop is a scary thing. Because once. They always say, like, once you stop. I mean, that's it.
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Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This is the thing. Don, for example. Let's just use Don here. Don has an afternoon drive talk show in the number one market in the country. Then he calls 75 Devils games a year before the playoffs.
Him stopping, we're investing way too much in the physical, like, these physical activities. He's a young man. He's in the prime of his career. He's got nothing to prove. Shoveling, hanging things up. It would be one thing if, like, listen, if Don was sitting home all day and he's like, oh, finally I get to shovel snow. And Nancy goes, no, don't do that. You sit right there on the couch and don't move. You watch Matlock. Well, then I understand. He's out every day, working home, working hard, bringing home the bacon. He's got nothing to prove.
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I got something to prove to myself that I. That I'm still.
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Thank you. Amen.
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Still relevant.
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Yes. Well, just be smart because take care of my.
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We almost had. We almost had an absolute disaster on Thanksgiving. I don't think I brought it up on the air yet, but think.
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So no.
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Thanksgiving. After dinner, it had been a wonderful night, and we were out on Long island. And the. The place out there has, like, front steps, like two steps down, and then like. And then you turn and it's like four more steps. And my dad said he's going to go for a walk with my niece and nephew. And I'm walking to the door. I was going to run bear out real quick, and I hear like a scream.
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Oh, no.
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And my heart stopped. And I run outside, and my dad is laying on the ground at the bottom of the steps.
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Oh, no.
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And I go, oh, good Christ. We just had. We just did our gratitudes. I just Did a whole thing about how grateful I was for Maya's first Thanksgiving. And my parents are here, and my dad is laying on his back at the bottom of the stairs with my niece and nephew over him. And I run down there, and I'm like, are you okay? And he's, like, looking at me, and he's like, I'll shook. He's clearly shaken up, but he's like, I think so. I was like, did you hit your head? He's like, don't think so. I looked at him. No blood anywhere. I go, are you in any severe pain? And he's kind of like, no. And we help get him up, and thank God literally nothing happened. But, guys, the point of this is my dad is 77. He still walks and takes stairs and stuff. Like, he's 57. And granted, he looks great, and he. And he seems great, but you don't want to allow your pride to have you make a mistake that then ages you a lot because you were so busy trying to seem. It was like me running up the steps. Yes, I am embarrassed and hate that I tore a meniscus running up steps. But guess What? I'm not 19. I don't need to jump at two or three steps every time I'm on steps. Walk up and down the stairs. These are the little things we have to do to extend our situation.
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I don't know if I'm going that far.
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Which part?
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Like, you know, I want to be able to still do certain things. Like, I don't. I don't want to take it easy.
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Well, I. I want to be able to go work out, but I don't need to then also be running up steps for no reason when I'm not mid work.
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You're feeling good.
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You were in a good mood. You had some adrenaline going.
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Like, come on.
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You were back from.
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That's how my dad felt. That's how my dad felt when he walked out the steps. And guess what? Five feet later, he's laying on his back.
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Yeah.
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We just got to be mindful.
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Mindful. Mindful. Yes. But if Don wants to shovel his. His. His driveway, which, by the way, from what it sounds like we're gonna get some snow this winter, boys. It's coming.
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Feels like you're right.
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Ready?
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Feels like. Feels like it could be happening this year.
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Mm.
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It's been a while.
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I also. Something was brought up on YouTube, and I don't want to upset Don, but I think it needs to be addressed.
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Oh, interesting.
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Oh, no.
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Don. Looks like. It looks like Don stole his tie from a law firm in 1997. That's what's being said.
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I can't see it. What is it?
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Let me.
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Let me see it. Donnie.
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Oh, look, it's just. It's a. It's. It's a purple.
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It's. It just feels very. It's like 90s. Michael Douglas.
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Yeah, that definitely. No, no. You know, no Night Corps disclosure. Remember it? What's. His.
Mind. The judge. The judge used to wear these. These ties. Like this Watner. No, no, no.
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From Night Court.
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Harry Anderson.
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Yeah, Anderson.
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Yeah. He used to wear ties like that. John Larroquette had, like, the classic suits, but he. Harriet, always have, like, the. The goofy stuff. And that's a little. That's a little different. That's a little. That's not like you, Don.
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I will say you don't like it.
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I didn't say I didn't like it.
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Listen here.
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Let's have personality.
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Let's have real talk. When do you think, Don, that tie was purchased?
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Oh, yeah. Come on.
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Between 97 and 99.
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So there's a reason it looks like the 90s. It's. It's been in the house for 30 years.
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Is it 100 silk?
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Rayon.
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Rayon.
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It's from Arrow. Is that something?
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I don't think so.
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It says arrow USA, 1851.
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Well, they've been making ties for a long time. Arrow. When did they stop? Well, they may have stopped in the 90s.
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No, because there's a lot of things going on with this tie. If you look at it in person.
I think it's a decent tie.
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I don't hate the tie.
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You spill something on it, nobody will know.
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Every color. Right there.
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You know, I was told the Arrow is still in business.
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They are good for Arrow.
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Way to go, Arrow.
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Now, let's end on some more ties. Is it a spin off of Caldor? I think they're owned by Izod now.
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Is that true? I believe so. Like the Izod Center. Very Jersey. You can still find Arrow ties on Amazon, I'm told. Don. All right, if you want to re. Let's go.
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Let's go to piano tie on Amazon.
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Get a Daniel Sex Fish tie.
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Go to Ed in New Jersey. What's up, Ed?
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Hey, guys. How are you? Thank you for reminding me that I just turned 53 last week.
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Younger than me.
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Yeah. And. And, Alan, that's what I want to discuss is old jet therapy. I'm surprised you didn't say the first bad jet memory wasn't the year earlier when the jets lost that wild card game to Buffalo at Shea and you got the interception.
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Yeah, I gotta be honest that I, my Jet fandom started.
It was. It started sort of fleeting because my, my parents weren't hardcore football fans. So I was just handed a jersey like for Christmas because Sears made all these jerseys, NFL jerseys and for some reason they gave me a Richard Todd one. And so it's not like I was as locked but that year I got locked in and why not? You know, like it was a good year to be locked in and that's. So I don't, I am being honest that I don't have as much a memory of any of that stuff. Any of the late 70s. None of that. I have nothing. Not 80 or 81, that 82, 83, the whole strike. That, that some reason. That was the first one that really connected with me. And it was probably because that's the Christmas I got the jersey.
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11 year.
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Old Alan Hahn and I was all about winning Yankees, Islanders. I mean I was like this is easy.
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Little did he know.
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And then I got that. That was. Boy, I'll tell you what, that was the punch to the cubes as a kid. Like the first time as a fan. Devastating.
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But listen, at least they were preparing you. They weren't dishonest.
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Built up calluses, I'll tell you that.
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Yeah, they were letting you know from jump. Hey, we're going on a journey here but.
Let'S go to Andrew wants a little. We haven't talked much. Giants yet today. Andrew and Medford, what's up?
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Yeah. Hey guys, what's up? How you guys doing today?
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Good.
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Listen, about the Giants, I know a lot of people frown on this. I don't know why people frown on people who want a Super bowl and have experience. I've been Talking about Mike McCarthy, right. Has taken over. He's the front runner for the Giant job.
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Now listen, if Mike Tomlin comes available.
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Obviously the Giants would go for him and I have no problem with that. But he's employed right now. So Whitman McCarthy, you can establish culture, manage egos and develop quarterbacks. And who wouldn't be a great coach right now to develop Jackson Dart? Because Mike McCarthy developed Aaron Rodgers to four MVPs and a super bowl title. So I think it'd be a good move. Like I said, if Common's available, be great. And also I think with the draft coming up being the Giants have their quarterback, I think they should trade their first draft pick this year and get some revenue, get some protection around Dart and some weapons between that and the free agency.
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And again, you're pretty high pick.
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You're. You're trying to build out your secondary. Your linebacking corps and defensive secondary are. Are the two biggest areas of need. I thought the line has been pretty good this year.
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The line that has not been that bad.
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Wide receiver I see with neighbors, don't you think they need like a vet? Like can you go out and trade for a vet? Like a good.
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I think that's the route to go because I still don't love taking wide receivers that high. I'm not as opposed to it as I was with running backs. But you know, the Giants might end up having like the third overall pick, second overall pick. Are you going to do it? Are you going to do a wide receiver there? The problem is usually people aren't trading up. You can. I just, I don't know if I'd want to.
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Why would you?
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Carnell Tate is that good?
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Well then trade. You know, because they need a lot. You know, they need a wide receiver, they need secondary help, they need linebackers. And all these things are kind of tough to take that high. The problem is, are you going to get a lot for the second or third overall pick when the team selecting there is not looking for a quarterback. Usually you get that kind of haul when somebody needs a quarterback. As you know, managing maintenance, repair and operations is never easy. But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Grainger has your back. From professional grade products you can count on to fast, dependable delivery, they're there to help you keep things running smoothly. Plus, their technical product specialists are here to help answer your toughest questions. And because Grainger knows safety is always a priority, they're committed to being your partner in protecting both your people and your facilities. Call 1-800-GRAINGER click granger.com or just stop by. Getting sick always happens at the worst time. The middle of the night, weekends, or right before the holidays. Your doctor's office is closed and urgent care means long waits and big bills. That's why I keep a medical emergency kit at home. Prescription medications ready when I need them. And right now, during their Black Friday sale, you can get the lowest price of the year. This isn't a first aid kit. It's like having an urgent care and a pharmacy right there in your home. You get essential prescriptions like a generic Z pack, plus antibiotics for pneumonia, strep, ear and sinus infections, even meds for nausea and UTIs. Just match your symptoms to the guidebook and make sure to connect with their telemedicine doctor. Take your meds early and feel better faster. Order your kit online in minutes before you need it, and your kit will be shipped right to your door. Don't miss out on the Black Friday savings. Visit urgentcarekit.com Black Friday that's urgentcarekit.com Black Friday.com Black Friday prescription required. Always consult your doctor to determine if this product is right for you.
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Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Did you or someone you know participate in fraudulent fan behavior?
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I'm a fraud with a capital.
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Is your friend a fraud?
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I have been a complete and utter fraud.
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Are you a fraud?
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What is fraud?
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Let's ask Tom McGregor.
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Screw. Go scratch yourself.
I'll tell you what. What is better than fraud Friday? The answer is absolutely nothing. All right. And matter of fact, we start fraud from Friday in a way we never have before. And that's with game time, brought to you by teleport.
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Oh, look at this.
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Because when it's game time, folks, guess what.
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Time.
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All right. Nick's. Nick's Jazz, right here on 880. That's coming up at 7 o'. Clock. I love how I say right here on 880 when we know perfectly well none of our audience is listening on 880. Everyone's streaming, watching the app and on YouTube podcast.
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Yep.
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But yeah, if you're, if you're. If you're sitting by the old transistor radio, by the way, give me a tweet. I want to know Rosenberg Radio. If you have both the radio and if. Yeah, exactly, send me a letter. Yeah, but either way, that's coming up right here. And then. And it's on the app, of course. And then Don's Devils, which is the new name for the team taking on the golden knights. That's at 7:00 o' clock at the rock.
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708 puck drop downy.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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May it please the court.
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Oh, boy.
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I am Alan Hahn, counsel for all fans who are against fraud.
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All right.
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I would like to present my case against fraud. This is the people against Peter Rosenberg.
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Oh, boy.
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If I may, your honor, present first as in yesterday we decided that we were going to make you know our picks on last night's game and noted Washington Redskins slash commanders fan. Yes. Which means that NFC east fan that of course all other teams now you supposed to hate rivals, as they say. Exhibit A first, your honor, of Peter Rosenberg's actions last night, that's come across fraudulent.
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How about them Cowboys?
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And now, if I may, exhibit B. Let's go Cowboys.
So, your honor, I would like to present Peter Rosenberg for the charge of being a fraud.
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Well.
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I think Don's gonna rule my favor here.
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Actually.
It'S a difficult one because we all make business decisions, right? Come on, you're all rooting for you at the end of the day, and he wants to catch up and he made a business decision. But to be that enthusiastic about that part, it's hard not to be a fraud when you're shouting out, how about them Cowboys? How was that Jimmy Johnson after a Super Bowl.
I'm sorry. Fraud, fraud, fraud. How about I rule this Peter's not a fraud, but it's fraudulent behavior.
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Let me, let me hear the audio one more time to see how bad it actually sounded. Let's go Cowboys. How about them Cowboys?
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See, I think you could have stayed away from that and you'd have been fine.
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I love my commies.
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Community service.
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No prison time.
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No prison time.
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Okay, but picking up garbage on the highway? Yes.
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I just want it on his record, that's all. Oh, it's there.
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It's there.
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Sorry, Peter, but I had no, listen.
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This, listen, I, I everything about you. I would have argued that, that Allen could have won fraudulent a fraudulence case against me just for picking the Cowboys.
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I mean, no, because I understand you got to make business decisions, but it's a bad show.
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You should never make a pick when you go. Guys, everyone knows the smart pick here is Detroit. The public will bet the Cowboys because they've been hot. Detroit's not going to lose. They just lost to Green Bay. You know they're going to win it. Come on. It's a bad job.
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It's, it's a bad choice. You know, I don't think it was driven by any kind of emotion or positive emotion towards the Cowboys.
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No, I just want.
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But when you start saying, how about them Cowboys? Which I, I, I get one, I get a D. Chill. When I hear that.
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I like, I found a way.
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I found a way to overcome my hatred of Jimmy Johnson. I, I've read his book, and I think he's good on Fox. I've been able to get over it. But there's certain things about him, the arrogance that really drove me crazy. We talked about this, Peter. There was. There was. So I don't know what it was on or whatever, but they're at practice and they, they're kicking field goals and he like pretended to be the announcer and he said, and we kicked him. We beat the Redskins.
As usual. And I'm like, boy, Peter, ever heard that? I'm not the times I didn't know you at the time. But I'm like thinking, man, that must really bother Redskin for fans.
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And to hear me then saying, yeah.
B
Just the how about them Cowboys? Is.
C
That's. Yeah, it's when I hearing the Lord's.
B
Name in vain is what it is. It's almost equivalent.
C
It almost doesn't sound like it's. When I hear it, it doesn't sound like it's me saying it. And.
And to know that we're going to have that drop in every big Cowboys.
A
Moment forever, it's tough.
C
So fraudulent behavior for sure.
A
All right. Yeah.
C
All right, guys, I. Here we go. An email. An email comes in. I grew up in the Bronx. First games at Yankee Stadium in the 60s. But they were bad. I was born in 1960. Mets win the World Series and I'm a Mets fan. Now I live in Chicago and always this is going bad. And always root for NY teams over anyone else. But if the Yankees are playing the Mets, I root for the Mets. Same is true for the Jets. Became a fan when Namath won. But I root for both. Unless playing each other and that. And then in that case it's jets all the way. Fraud.
B
Yes. Almost to the definition. Almost right, exactly like what I think of about fraud.
A
And then the whole I root for.
B
New York, like any of the players are from New York. Stop yourself. Yankee fan.
C
When they were bad.
B
And then the Mets win the World Series, which should have made Yankee fans sick. But you're sitting there celebrating, you're dancing probably half high because you're probably on.
A
The way to Woodstock.
B
Oh, he's only nine. I can't get crazy. And then just rooting for the jets and the Giants unless they play, then I root for the jets, you know, Stop yourself. You're a big F. Fraud.
C
Wow.
A
Don had a moment. Video wise. Don had a video moment there.
B
What was I doing?
A
If only there could be a video drop, there'd be one. It looked like you had a shake weight.
B
It looked like he was milking udders.
A
Yeah, that too.
C
Well, what was he doing?
A
If only we could just rewind it.
B
Be great.
A
Something like that.
B
I don't know.
A
It's fine.
B
I was so in the radio moment that I forgot that I was on YouTube.
A
Yeah. See if the chat has anything to say about it. I just.
B
Yeah, I'm sure they're gonna. I'm sure they're doing the same thing at home.
C
Listen, Don, I'll have you know, I know this for a fact. If you. If something bad happened, it can be deleted from the. The YouTube.
A
Okay, that is true. That is true.
C
It could dis. It can disappear into the animals. No one will ever know that.
A
We can make it disappear. We can make it go away.
C
All right, we go.
A
What else we got?
C
Your honorable Judge Lecka. I come to the the stand from Utah as a 28 year old and I've been a die hard Yankee fan since the day I was born. Being from Utah, we don't have a football team to cheer for and I'm not the biggest basketball fan. The Jazz haven't really been anything to write home about for a while, nor did I ever really root for them. Listening to the K show and now dhr, over the past few years, I've gravitated towards the Giants as well as the Knicks. And I've been paying more attention to them and have even started telling people that these are the teams I'm rooting for. I come to you to see if I'm a free fraud for saying that these are teams I'm rooting for and want to be a fan of or if I have your approval to continue my growing my fandom for these two teams. I will live and die with the Yankees. I bleed pinstripes, but would love your insight into this. Thank you for your honor and panel.
B
Well, did he adopted the Giants and the Knicks? Is that fraudulent? No, it's not fraudulent.
C
Well, but remember, he's from Utah, so.
A
He said he was never a Jazz fan. Doesn't have a football team.
C
No.
B
No, I don't think there's any fraud there.
A
Nice.
B
He was not. They didn't have a football team. He admitted that he never really got into the Jazz at all and he kind of adopted the Knicks and the Giants and he's sticking with it and he wants to stick with it. From Utah. I got no problem with that. If he had been a Jazz fan and converted to a Knick fan, that's fraudulent. But he didn't. He didn't become a Jazz fan. They didn't have A football team. I see. Zero fraud.
C
Wow, that surprises you, Peter? No, it makes sense. But on paper, when you hear it like someone picking teams at 28 years old, you could see it going bad. But no, this is what makes these. These decisions always so interesting. Why it's less than rating.
A
Are you suggesting, though, Peter, like, because he's not from New York, it's like, it's like being a fan of a college team. You didn't attack 10. Is that what is that like?
C
Yeah. Now he's just now just picking up all the other teams because of our show, obviously. Who am I gonna fight with that? I love that he listens to the show.
B
Right. And we live in a world where he can buy the packages and watch the games and listen to them on. On satellite radio. I mean, it's not like the old days where, like, why are you picking the Knicks? Living in Utah, you never see them.
A
Right.
C
All right, Allen, Peter and honorable Don, I need your ruling on this baffling situation. My sister has been such a die hard Lakers fan for as long as I can remember. I mean, her room looked like a Lakers shrine. Jerseys, posters, lamps, trash cans, pillows, comforters, you name it. It was like living with a purple and gold sanctuary down the hall. During games, it was chaos. She'd yell at the tv, critiquing the plays, arguing with the refs when they made a great play or won a buzzer beater, you'd think she'd hit the jackpot in Vegas. Don't even get me started. When they were winning in the playoffs, and especially the years they won the championship, I think he already got started. A regular season loss would ruin her night. Yeah, she started.
A
You started.
C
And then when they lost in the playoffs, you'd think a close relative died.
B
We got the point.
C
Yeah.
A
Okay.
B
Thank you. She's into the Laker.
A
You get a knife. Big Laker fan.
C
We got Fast forward to 2018. LeBron joins the Lakers. You'd think a superstar like him would make her excited, right? No, she despises him. I'm not sure why. I guess SK would say she just doesn't like the cut of his jib. So when LeBron strolled into LA, she was so upset that she jumped off the Lakers ship faster than a rat on a sinking ship. She's now turned into a full blown Laker hater. Oh, she doesn't root for another team, but she watches the Lakers and wishes for their downfall. I ask, is this fraudulent behavior?
B
You ask, you ask, I tell you. Humongous fraud.
As Big of a Laker fan as she used to be that you gave us tremendous detail on. You'd get an A in creative writing is as big a fraud as she is. I understand hating. Listen, we all went through. Yankee fans, went through Roger Clemens. Right. You had to. Yeah. It wasn't good. Right, Allen, for you, You Haiti. He took Derek Jeter out.
A
Yep.
B
I mean, but you know, hey, he helped you win.
A
Help me win.
B
Helped the. He helped you win a championship.
A
Well, yeah.
B
So you and LeBron helped the Lakers win a championship. I mean, so how much do you really love your team? If one guy even as significant as LeBron James can make you then hate.
A
The team like that easily. I need to know like, you know what? He gave us a lot of detail, maybe way too much detail about like how much of a fan she was. He does not know the true story of why it's LeBron that has her to a point now where she hates the team because he's on it. What is the backstory of LeBron, please?
B
Yeah, because like the backstory with Roger Clemens is that he was on the hated Red side.
A
So he was a rival.
B
He threw at Yankees and knocked Derek Jeter out of a game. You hated him. Did Laker fans have any opinion on LeBron James before he got there?
A
No. There was no history there.
B
It was on the. He was on the Cabs. He was on the Heat. He was.
A
And they never played each other. There was nothing. There was nothing there. I need to know. There's got to be some context.
B
Here's the thing. She was a big fan. She was looking for a way out. Something soured her and well, is she.
A
Rooting for another team now?
B
No, she's not.
A
So she's just sit there and watch.
B
A team that you love so much to like all your apparel. Not buying it in gold.
A
Not buying it.
B
She makes me sick.
A
Need more input.
C
She's a last one.
B
She's a stranger. Fraud.
C
Last email. Esteemed judge Lagreca in the court. I know the topic of fraud in sports jersey has been addressed several times, but I wonder if I have a slightly different wrinkle. As a Giants and Yankees fan, I clearly I would be a fraud if I purchased a cowboy or Red Sox jersey for myself. Maybe if it was some sort of collectible, some would not feel that way, but I would. Fraud. But what about if I buy one of those same pieces of merchandise for someone else? If my daughter, someday my son in law was a die hard Red Sox fan. Am I a fraud for purchasing A jersey for them. Is it the purchase or the intent that is in question? That's what I'm asking. Essentially, what is fraud?
B
Respectfully, Brett, Fred, come on. That's not fraud. Fraudulent. You're buying it for somebody else. You're not buying it because you're a fan of the team, you're a good guy, and you say, you know what? One of my friends or a member of my family happens to like a team that I hate, but I could be above that and I could buy the jersey. It's not fraudulent at all.
C
That's why I love our judge, because he's, he's very thoughtful, he's reasonable. He's very reasonable. And he will as long as your email does not last longer than 25 seconds.
B
There are time constraints here, people. Shows only four hours. The segments only what, 15 minutes.
C
The funniest thing is, is that to me, Alan, Don will read a book about an actor who was like a third character on a TV show. 475 pages. Yeah, it, once the email crosses 22 seconds, that's it. He is so done. He has no use.
A
He's ready.
C
Information overload.
A
I don't need to hear anymore.
B
I will read the average book. Like I said, I'm reading Bob Saget's book right now, postmortem. Obviously, he's no longer with us. He wrote it back in 2014. But the one thing I love more than, you know, average books is good radio and Peter reading, you know, 10 minutes of a detailed description of how big fan somebody is. You know what? Big Laker fan would have sufficed and we would have been able to maybe squeeze in a couple more emails.
A
So you're blaming Peter needs to edit better.
C
I know. I, I, I think painting the picture.
B
I think Peter's got the best of.
C
It because he's probably thinking it was two paragraphs. It was a two short paragraph email. No, there's those paragraphs. By the way, if Don would never accept our segment the Gurus on the morning show, or we hear people's entire relationship problems, it could be, oh, this would not be for Don.
B
Either way is she's a big Laker fan. Okay?
C
No, I, I, I don't need to.
A
Hear about Laker garbage cans and Laker towels and Laker pillowcases.
C
You don't think that that added. I think that added. I painted a picture color.
A
You wanted to, you wanted to paint the picture. Yeah, because that purple and gold bedroom down the hall.
C
If you had said to us she liked The Lakers like, LeBron came, she's out. Wow, that's. That's pretty fraud.
B
You know what all I'm saying, she had a.
C
She had an actual, like, statue, you know, her home was dedicated to later.
B
I did add to it, but it did come at the expense of maybe two or three other fraud emails.
A
Oh, we have two fraud calls, though, we could get to on the other side if you'd like.
C
Oh, yeah, we got plenty of fraud calls and a lot more to do.
A
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D
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A
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D
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Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.
C
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
A
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
C
Why Hot Stuff, though?
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
There's got to be a reason. Donna Summer, we lose her on this day?
No, none of the above.
A
None of you feeling.
C
You just. You just felt like Hot Stuff. I had on one of my pots.
A
I had still the Fraud Friday instrumental playing. I did not notice, so I'm like.
B
Why am I hearing double audio? And then Hot Stuff was the first.
C
Thing that popped up, so I just played it.
A
Got it. Wow. Just random.
C
Well, I will say, though, I do. Hot Stuff is one of those songs I would. I would never choose to listen to. No, but as it was. As it was playing, I. I didn't not enjoy myself.
B
It was movement.
C
I don't know if there was.
B
Are you a big fan of the movie the Full Monty?
C
I haven't seen the Full Monty in a very long time. That's a big.
B
You don't like it, Alan?
Best Picture.
A
Definitely didn't go back.
B
Love that movie.
A
But I mean, if. If. Since you brought it up, is there a Donna Summer song that you're like, yeah, that's a good one. I'll listen to that. Oh, yeah, MacArthur park doesn't count.
B
Why is that? Because it wasn't hers.
A
Yeah, it's a cover.
C
Everything was a cover back then.
A
That's a good point.
B
I did. There are Donna Summer songs I like.
A
Okay, let's hear them.
D
Works Hard for the money.
A
Works hard for the money.
B
No, that's not it.
C
No, that wouldn't be it.
A
I knew that was on the radio.
B
That's not bad.
A
It takes me it's not a terrible song. That. That. That would have been my choice on the radio.
B
I mean, Bad Girls is Love to love you, baby. That's a good one.
A
Well, that's.
C
There you go. Now we're having a conversation.
A
That's a movement song.
B
Yeah, well, for sure.
C
Now. Now. Now you've got actual.
A
Now you got movement. Yeah.
C
Love to love you, Baby's probably the one.
A
You think that's the one, though? It's. That's a hard for me. Let's be honest.
C
It's a hard listen.
A
Yeah, like. Like, what are you doing? They just gonna sit there and listen to.
C
Yeah, yeah.
A
That's how it works.
B
Vibe going on.
C
Yeah, you just let the vibe go.
B
What do you. And you go to, you know, and someone walks in. Thank God it's Friday, Donna Summer. You know what?
A
You know what?
B
That's not a bad.
C
Show me something.
A
Play it. Show me something or I'll come at the next segment. Forget the DHR instrumental.
B
We got a Donna Summers for the rest of the hour.
A
Okay.
C
Yeah, you gotta. Got it. Apparently it's becoming a Donna Summer program. Out of the blue. He didn't know. And here we are. All right, so Fraud Friday, follow up, let's go to Chad in Rocky Point. Hey, Chad.
A
All right. Hey, guys.
D
So you guys know I'm a Yankees fan.
B
I've called many times. Well, you don't know about me is.
D
I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan for three decades.
B
Okay?
D
God bless you.
A
Start there.
D
Now, Peter, bar mitzvah in 1994, all right? I was wearing Phil's. Phil Sims jersey and New York Giants hat in the bar mitzvah photo of my family.
B
Okay?
A
I mean, they won in the late.
D
13, and I fought for that.
B
But you were 13 years old. Were you wearing a Giant fan?
D
All right, so here's the deal, right? So the Giants are winning in the late 80s, right? I wasn't playing football yet, but I was in New York and people were excited about it. So I was excited about it. I started playing the game. Cowboys are winning. 92, 93, 95. See, I feel like I stuck with them during the Quincy Carter years, the Clint Sterner years. I paid my dues. I've been a fan of them for 30 years. But my friends like to bust my chops because there is a photo out there of me wearing Phil Sims jersey and it's giant scap.
B
But you're 13 years old, all right? And in the eyes of your religion, you became a man that day.
Were you a Giants fan?
D
I would say no. I would. My whole family, Giants fans, I would say I was never a true Giants fan. I've always been a real, true Cowboys fan.
B
I'm gonna say no, Fraud, because it sounds like he really wasn't a football fan. He kind of just jumped on the bandwagon with his family, and when he started to really start to fall in love with football, he chose the Cowboys and he stuck with them through, you know, thick and thin, through what's been a really, you know, tough, you know, 25, 30 years. That Chan Galey era was not a great area. He could have tapped out. So I'm going to say no, Fraud.
A
Okay.
B
It's odd to not be a football fan by 13, but it sounds like he was just. It wasn't his thing yet. Kind of like, you know, a lot of people just for whatever reason, don't fall in love until they fall in love. And once he fell in love, he stuck.
A
Yeah, he was experimenting. Everybody else was doing it.
B
But that's why I asked him, did.
C
You root for the Giants?
B
And he said no.
A
Yeah, he said he really wasn't a fan. He just.
C
But it's awkward to have those types of. Yeah, it's an odd moment.
A
Okay.
B
But no, I'm gonna say no, Fraud. You guys good with that?
C
Yeah, I'm very comfortable with it. Let's go to Paul, who's down in Florida. He's got something for Alan. Hey, Paul.
D
How's it going?
B
Paul, it's all going.
C
Hey, buddy.
D
I'm here, I'm here. Can you hear me?
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, yeah.
C
We got you loud and clear.
D
Oh, awesome, awesome, awesome.
B
Love you guys.
D
You guys have an amazing thing. So when I heard Han sell his story about how he became a Jet fan, and it reminded me, I became a Jet fan at a family friend growing up. Every year, had a huge Fourth of July party, and pulling up to his house, they had a Jets fan only parking sign. And for some reason, that stuck to stuck with me. And my father was a Giants fan. To this day, I'm a Jets fan. And I look at my father and I'm like. And I see this guy Joe every.
B
Every year.
D
I'm like, you did this to me. It's your fault.
A
All because of a sign that said jets fans only. And you're like, well, I gotta park here.
C
That's it.
D
I was, yeah, man, I heard your story.
A
You got a present.
D
And it was like, that's it.
A
My parents weren't even football. My parents weren't even football fans. They could care less about football. No interest at all. They liked hockey and baseball. Those are their two sports. And for whatever reason, in the Sears catalog, they were selling all these jersey. NFL jerseys, different teams. You could get a Danny White Cowboys. You can get a. Like, it had all these different ones. For whatever reason, they got me the Richard Todd jets jersey.
B
That was from the Sears catalog, right?
A
Yeah, the Sears catalog. You could. If you Google it, you could find them. It's hysterical when you see some of the jersey. They're terrible. It said Jets. It had a 14, and it had tied and 14 on the back. But I. I opened it up like, oh, that's a. It's the Jets. Okay. And then that was it. I just felt like, all right, well, I guess I'm a Jets fan.
B
You know what's so funny? You just said you tapped into something that has bothered me forever.
A
What's that?
B
Is that I used to hate those.
A
Types of jerseys that had the team with a name across the front.
B
And now. And now NFL teams have it like the jets have it. It says Jets.
A
It says Browns.
B
I hate that.
C
It's a great called on. I hated that, too. It always was the sign that it was fake, right?
B
That was the sign that this is fugazi, Right?
C
Yeah. And now. Now they choose to do it.
A
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
C
I don't want to know how the.
A
Sausage is made, but I just want to know. It's good. Here, more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
Date: December 5, 2025
Hosts: Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, Don La Greca
This episode focuses on the evolution of sports jersey traditions and fan behaviors, especially surrounding the NFL’s home/away jersey customs and the business of alternate uniforms. Afterward, the trio launches into "Fraud Friday," their recurring comedic investigation into sports fandom fraudulence—from rooting for rival teams to questionable jersey purchases. Throughout, the hosts mix lighthearted ribbing with genuine takes on tradition, loyalty, and the quirks of sports fan life.
(00:59 – 06:45)
Don reflects on a bygone NFL tradition: Home teams used to force the Dallas Cowboys to wear their unpopular blue jerseys; this started after their loss in Super Bowl V (01:00).
Don notes that this tradition has faded after decades of coaching and team turnover.
Merchandising & Jersey Choices:
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The episode is playful, irreverent, and sharp—a blend of inside jokes, listener participation, and heartfelt sports nostalgia. The trio mixes genuine sports analysis with mock-serious “fraud” court proceedings, inviting listeners to reflect and laugh at their own quirks as fans.
Best For:
Anyone fascinated with the quirks of sports fandom, the evolution of jersey culture in pro sports, and the endless debates over what makes someone a "real" fan, all delivered with New York wit and camaraderie.