Hour 2: Knicks Concern & Peter Schrager

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – March 10, 2026

Hour 2: Knicks Concern & Peter Schrager
ESPN New York (Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, Don Hahn)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the trio dives deep into the state of the New York Knicks as the NBA season enters its final stretch, discussing the team’s fluctuating identity, regular-season importance, fan anxiety, and what recent games mean for their playoff readiness. They engage with listeners, debate hot topics like the World Baseball Classic etiquette and marathon medals, and wrap up with insight from NFL insider Peter Schrager on free agency and NY football teams.

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Knicks Discussion: Identity, Inconsistency, and Fan Psyches

Are the Knicks Ready for the Stretch Run?

Main Theme: The Knicks' inconsistent performances have heightened concern as the playoffs approach, especially regarding their ability to “lock in” across all 48 minutes and against both good and bad teams.

• Opening Frustration (00:49)

  • Rosenberg expresses the exhaustion of overreacting to each game:

    "I can't dissect and analyze every game like it's Game 7…"

  • Alan Hahn urges a balanced perspective, warning against extremes but emphasizes that as only 16 games remain, trends are meaningful.

• The Identity Crisis (01:14)

  • Alan Hahn critiques Josh Hart’s comment about still “figuring out their identity” this late in the season—calls it a red flag.
  • Points out that big wins (Denver, Spurs) show potential, but mental lapses (Lakers, Clippers) expose lack of focus and effort.
  • Quotes the embarrassing post-game comments from Lakers’ Austin Reaves:

    “We just played harder than they did.” (01:11)

• Effort & Mentality Issues (02:54, 04:26, 05:55)

  • Hahn and Don detail games where the Knicks faltered due to turnovers, lack of defensive intensity, and “chasing the game.”
  • Hahn says:

    “When you’re this late in the season, the game to game does matter…” (07:10)
    “You had an 18 turnover game against the Lakers… your defense got soft early in the game…” (04:26)

• Regular Season Relevance (08:16, 09:06, 09:43)

  • Rosenberg challenges the narrative: “If you’re not scared, then these games… what matters?”
  • Hahn insists every game matters for trends, playoff seeding, and revealing team identity:

    “Because every game leads to trends. Every game leads to… your identity.” (09:20–09:23)

  • The team’s drop-off in three-point shooting post-All-Star break worries them:

    “If I told you… they were one of the best three-point shooting teams in the NBA going into the All Star break and since then they’ve been one of the worst, wouldn’t that concern you?” (10:01 – Hahn)

• Fan Delusion vs. Realism (11:17, 12:35, 16:26)

  • Rosenberg thinks fans and some hosts are trying to convince themselves not to worry:

    “They’re trying to convince themselves. I think fans are worried… they just don’t want to admit it.” (11:21)

  • Hahn and Rosenberg agree: trends in March affect May, especially for seeding and playoff headlines.

Notable Quotes & Highlights

• Hahn on late-season focus:

  “How you’re playing now—yes, in the playoffs, matchups matter too… but the games reveal it. Especially the big ones and the deeper into the season you go.” (09:20)

• Hahn on missed opportunity:

  “When the playoffs come, you can't just flip the switch. Eventually you flip it on and it doesn't become the breaker.” (16:34)

• On Knicks’ emotional approach:
  • Questioning if the team ever uses anger/focus the way other contenders do, especially after “flat” losses in LA.

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Listener Calls: Realistic Optimism & Patterns

• Jimmy from Flushing (17:15–19:23):

  • Blames slow starts, turnovers, and Mikal Bridges’ low-scoring as warning signs.
  • Says: “The only thing they should be worried about is themselves… But the Knicks… I hope that the next several games will wake them up because I do… believe they will recover. But… every time when they win it’s like… championship intention. But when they lose, said this siege is over…”

• Jimmy from Connecticut (19:43–21:23):

  • Balances concerns over consistency with faith that the team can “elevate their game in the playoffs,” but admits recent lapses are troubling.

• Panel’s Reflection:

  • Rosenberg summarizes: as a fanbase, Knicks fans are among the most confident, sometimes bordering on delusional given the team’s actual accomplishments.

Notable Moment

“What has this team done other than you just being super fan to give you that kind of confidence? What have they accomplished?” (21:49 – Rosenberg)

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Broader NBA & Eastern Conference

• Boston’s Rise, Detroit’s Fatigue (13:08, 13:12):
  • Celtics are peaking at the right time with Tatum’s return;
  • Detroit hitting a “fatigue wall” and key players facing injury and energy management.
  • Importance of the Knicks securing a top-3 seed:

    “…if they end up in the third seed or the fourth seed and they don’t have home court in the second round or they have to play a team that really matches up well with them earlier…” (13:21 – Hahn)

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Offbeat Sports Talk: Etiquette, Recognition & Food

WBC Handshake Drama (27:25–35:12)

• Main Story:

  • Mariners’ Cal Raleigh refuses handshake/fist bump from teammate Randy Arozarena during USA–Mexico World Baseball Classic.
  • Panel mocks Raleigh, deems it “try-hard” and “performative,” noting WBC isn’t war.
  • Arozarena’s reaction:

    “That guy can go bleep himself… No, we're teammates.” (paraphrasing Arozarena, 29:24–29:59)

• Food Debates:

  • Jokes about the “best food country Final Four” based on baseball matchups—Italy, Mexico, China, Japan.

LA Marathon Controversy (36:07–41:42)

• Issue: Runners offered finisher medals for completing only 18 of 26.2 miles due to warm weather.
  • Unanimous disapproval from hosts:

    “The whole idea of the race is… I finished… Are you showing people the medal? …Well, I didn’t quite finish…” (39:05–39:22 – Alan Hahn)

  • “It’s so ridiculous. If you can't do it, you can’t do it.” (39:44 – Rosenberg)

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Peter Schrager Talks NFL Free Agency (44:53–53:51)

Jets & Giants News

• Biggest Storylines (46:58):

  • Raiders’ massive contract for interior lineman.
  • Malik Willis getting a starting QB nod with limited NFL passes.

• Geno Smith to Jets (47:42):

  • Describes trade as a “stopgap move,” not a long-term solution:

    “Geno Smith is not the answer to all these problems. But when another team is paying him his entire salary… it is a huge upgrade from what the situation was.” (48:59)

• Jets’ Offseason (50:16):

  • “You could put them out there on the field… five first round picks the next two years, you better get a quarterback.”

• Giants’ Moves (50:59):

  • Adds Isaiah Likely at tight end, other Ravens connections, and fills needs, but nothing splashy.
  • “Very Raven feel to it.”

• General Trend:

  • Teams, including Titans, favor familiar coaches/players but “you didn’t win free agency in the first two days.”

• Commanders (52:59):

  • Decent but unfinished. Advises to watch for possible signings.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Fan Confidence:

  “Knicks fans… are the most confident and most positive… but all you did… was beat the Celtics… that does not mean… they’ll show up when they have to.” (21:46 – Rosenberg)

• On “Flipping the Switch”:

  “Dangerous place to be, flipping the switch on and off. And eventually you flip it on and it doesn’t become the breaker.” (16:34 – Alan Hahn)

• On Marathon Medals:

  “I don’t want to finish your medal. I didn’t finish. The whole idea… is I finished.” (38:01 – Alan Hahn)

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Key Segments & Timestamps

| Time | Topic/Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:49 | Knicks’ inconsistent effort & fan overreaction | | 01:14 | Josh Hart’s “identity” comment & Team’s defensive lapses | | 02:54 | Effort v. talent debate; importance of “big boy” wins | | 09:06 | Regular season importance, trends, 3pa woes | | 11:17 | Fan mindset/discussion with callers | | 13:08 | Celtics’ and Pistons’ updates in the East | | 17:15 | Jimmy from Flushing: Fan perspective on concern | | 19:43 | Jimmy from Connecticut: Positivity, playoff mentality | | 21:46 | On what Knicks have actually achieved compared to confidence given by fanbase | | 27:25 | World Baseball Classic: Cal Raleigh handshake snub | | 36:07 | LA Marathon “finisher medal” debate | | 44:53 | NFL free agency insight with Peter Schrager (Jets, Giants, Commanders) |

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Tone & Style

• Energetic, candid, and at times irreverent (especially in non-basketball segments)
• Deeply informed, with Hahn and Rosenberg doubling as both analysts and lifelong fans
• Blunt honesty with both praise and criticism of NY teams and fans—never skipping tough realities

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Takeaways

• Knicks’ success hinges on rediscovering consistent focus, offense, and perimeter shooting.
• Regular season is crucial for playoff seeding and establishing identity—trends can’t be ignored.
• Fan confidence is high, but not always backed by performance. Reality checks needed.
• In free agency, NY football teams made smart but unspectacular moves; expectations should be measured.
• Fun offbeat debates and moments (WBC etiquette, food, marathon medals) break up heavy sports talk.

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For die-hards and casuals alike, this episode dishes out tough Knicks truths, sports radio agony and joy, plus a one-stop snapshot of NY sports anxiety and optimism.

Transcript

[Alan Hahn]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Rosenberg]

401 the big city don on in Rosenberg with you until 6:30. Then it's the Rangers and the Flames on ESPN. New York Knicks. That's frustrating. I get I gotta stick to my guns here. It's the regular season. You can't get crazy. I can't dissect and analyze every game like it's game seven, where when they have a big win, it's all, we're going, we're winning a championship. And then you lose and everybody wants to jump off a bridge.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, you shouldn't do that. You shouldn't have that type of highs and lows. But it doesn't mean that now that we're at 16 games to go that I think you're starting now to look. Because a couple of weeks ago Josh Hart said something very strange about how we're still figuring out our. Still figuring out our identity. And I felt like that's way too deep into a season to say that. So you watch now trying to figure out, okay, what are you? Because they have had impressive wins, Spurs, Denver. That game Friday in Denver was a hell of a game. It was a fantastic defensive performance and just showed you what they can be. And then of course, the game Sunday was one of those typical you're not there mentally, you're not there where you're not where you need to be. And the good teams in this league might not shoot well every day, but they play hard every game. And the problem that you see with the Knicks this season, and I don't know if it's a byproduct of going from Tibbs to Mike Brown, but you don't see consistent. They look locked in from the start of the game. They're not, they're not messing around early on events. The Lakers, they let the Lakers do what they want. It was too easy of a game. Austin Reeves after the game said, we just played harder than they did. I don't like when you Hear it. You hear somebody say that, that might be more embarrassing than, we're better than them. We just played harder than they did. But what the hell is that?

[Rosenberg]

But is this the case and you know, we'll talk about the Steve Kerr stuff, that there's too many games and all.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Rosenberg]

Are we just getting to the point?

[Alan Hahn]

Oklahoma City doesn't have that excuse.

[Rosenberg]

But. But I just wonder sometimes, like, we build it up, hey, you got, you got to get that two seed. You, you can't drop the four because then maybe you'll play the Pistons in the second round. I wonder, do they even care?

[Alan Hahn]

No. You have to. In these games, when you know you're this late in the season, because what you're trying to do is, is figure out. If you're saying we don't have an identity, you got to figure out who are we against the better teams. If you're playing the Wizards and it's like the time in a week you've played them, then I can see you might, you know, you like what, what the Pistons with the Nets where you just gave one away and you're mad at yourself for giving away, but you're not getting up for that game. But if you're playing these headliner games this late in the year, if it's January. Don. Yes. Say that in the middle of the season, maybe you weren't ready for whatever it is. But now when you knew this is your stretch, the rest of the seat, they have the third easiest strength of schedule remaining, third in the entire NBA. So it's a cakewalk from here now to April.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, that might be part of it, too.

[Alan Hahn]

But they still have tough games, still have to play OKC stuff to play Houston like a couple of. And Boston one more time. There's a couple of still tough games mixed into a 16 left.

[Rosenberg]

So. So they might have what, like 12 easy games and four something.

[Alan Hahn]

Something like that.

[Rosenberg]

So they might be just looking at

[Don Hahn]

that way, like, listen, we're going to

[Rosenberg]

win 11, 12 games. You know, we're going to get to. No, but, but they are. But the point is they are.

[Alan Hahn]

But then it does tell you about them. It does tell you. Doesn't it? Doesn't it tell you something?

[Don Hahn]

It does to some degree.

[Rosenberg]

He's right.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay. And then you had, you had an 18 turnover game against the Lakers. You're kicking the ball all over the place. You. You can't make a three. And your defense got soft early in the game. He had to chase the whole game. Luca made some shots out of his, you know what. But besides that, they weren't playing that physical, nasty style. They were fouling too much. It looked like a team that wasn't locked in. You had a game the very next day against a team that has been struggling, all right, A Clipper team that had blown a big lead. They were under.500. And you were right that you could easily now take that game, be mad about it, go in and smack the Clippers around. What'd you do in the first quarter? Seven turnovers, soft defense. You had to. They locked in in the second half, cut it to five, had a chance to win, couldn't make a couple of shots, turned it over again. The. The finish of the game was again sloppy. It was not great. But by then the Clippers were up, they were into it. These are the games you start to show are you a team that can lock in and when it's winning time, win it. Denver told me yes. San Antonio told me yes. Even the OKC game, neither team really had great games. They both were getting after it defensively. That game, it was a battle, it was a war. It was a great game. They just lost it. But these two LA games, it gives. It just again buys into the narrative about this team and it makes you wonder. I said on get up on Monday and it upset a lot of Nick fans. I don't know why I was asked a question. I answered it honestly, like I always do. Does the east go through Boston now with Tatum back?

[Rosenberg]

I heard, yeah, we played it.

[Don Hahn]

We respect you as a man, so we played it.

[Alan Hahn]

I wasn't sure if you saw it. I said yes, because they have the coaching, they have a defense. It's one of the best in the league. This is a really good team. And they just got back an all NBA player who looks pretty much like he's fine, so. Of course it does. They're in second place. They're ahead of the Knicks. That was my answer. And I don't know where.

[Rosenberg]

Where's the lie, but if the Knicks

[Alan Hahn]

had won that game in LA and knocked the Lakers, you know, did what they should have done to a bad Laker team then on Monday. I can't say that right? I can't say that Monday. I'd say no. You know what? I think it's still up for grabs, Knicks and the Celtics, and I think these two are on a collision course. It's exactly what the NBA would love to have another playoff series, have Tatum kind of go back where it all started. You know, it'd be an unbelievable story but because of how the Knicks played And I said see they bought into the narrative again about how they're a team you just can't trust because they have these games and that's why to me Don, when you're this late in the season the game to game does

[Don Hahn]

matter and Alan this was a year but if this was going exactly the way everyone expected. Sorry. They should have won Sunday and Monday.

[Alan Hahn]

Correct.

[Don Hahn]

And you would have accepted a loss to Denver. But you're winning Sunday and Monday instead they beat Denver. That's great.

[Alan Hahn]

Beat him by 39 now you still

[Don Hahn]

have to split the next two at least.

[Alan Hahn]

Got it.

[Don Hahn]

You have to. That's what big boys do.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

You don't then drop.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the best way to put it. If you're a big boy team.

[Rosenberg]

So they're not a big boy team

[Don Hahn]

doesn't that's what Alan's saying that they're kind of showing in this moment.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what I'm saying buying into that

[Rosenberg]

narrative but that's what I'm trying because again I keep hearing because you know I consume this radio station all day. I'm in the car running errands, I'm listening to the shows and we get callers here, we get them on other shows, even some of the hosts. It's always the same thing. Oh, regular seat. Don't worry about it. They'll be fine. I keep hearing I'm not scared of the Celtics, I'm not scared of the Pistons, I'm not scared of the Cavalier. If you're not, then these games didn't what matters? Does it matter or not? I want to know. Tell me. Because you keep telling me as fans you don't care because it doesn't matter.

[Alan Hahn]

Can we address that?

[Rosenberg]

But Allen's trying to tell you who is it who watches or is at every single game is telling you Be concerned. We're all here. Oh come on. Pistons.

[Alan Hahn]

What are they?

[Rosenberg]

We'll beat him in the play. I'm not scared of Pistons. Meanwhile Tatum comes back, looks like a friggin animal. The Celtics can't. I'm not worried about the Celtics. Read them a lot. So what Am I supposed to believe you? I'd rather believe you because you're the basketball guy. But these fans drive me crowd I'm not worried. You're not worried? You just blew two games in a row. The Cleveland Cavaliers have the same amount

[Don Hahn]

of losses as you.

[Rosenberg]

If you don't get your act together, you're going to drop the fourth. Is that what you want? Well, yeah, no, that's right. You don't care about that because you're going to beat the Pistons. So what does it matter if it's the second round of the conference final, Alan? Because none of these Knicks fans are scared. They're not worried at all.

[Alan Hahn]

We should just. First of all, before the baseball season starts, can we address that whole thing about, you know, the regular season doesn't matter and you, you can't get caught up in the day to day because every game has a story. Every game matters.

[Don Hahn]

Every game has a story.

[Alan Hahn]

Every game does every game matter.

[Don Hahn]

Every story has a hero.

[Alan Hahn]

If there wasn't a story, then why would it be right or write about it? Why would fans read those stories? If these games didn't matter, why would they care? It does matter. Because every game leads to trends. Every game leads to. This is your identity. No matter how much you say you can tell us all you want from game to game what you are and who you are. And even fans can say it, but the games reveal it. Especially the big ones, especially the, the big matchups that matter. And then the deeper into the season you go, oh, yeah, no, you've got to pay attention because it is how you're playing now. Yes, in the playoffs, matchups matter too. Who do you match up better with? And all that stuff that does that always comes into play. But I'm sorry if I told you, Don, that they were one of the best three point shooting teams in the NBA going into the All Star break and since then they've one of the worst, Wouldn't that concern you?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it would.

[Rosenberg]

Because considering how that's how you win games in the NBA, especially since now

[Alan Hahn]

you're heading to the playoffs like what happened? Why all of a sudden is a three point shot not a weapon anymore? Why are certain guys that you were counting on making shots now not making shots? Why is his. Here's the big one. Why is Mikhail Bridges suddenly disappearing all the time? All the time. That's a concern. You can't win playoff series. When teams are doing what we've seen them do to Jalen Brunson lately. They bottle him up. They double team and get the ball out of his hands. They force him to be a passer. They don't let him get easy shots off. He's trying to find guys and feed someone else. But he also knows I got to score because I got guys that aren't making shots. There's so much that's going on with this team right now since the All Star break. And yet they still have found the ability to win more than they're losing. But there's a lot. Their defense is better. That's important, but their offense isn't what it used to be. There are some concerns about this team. Does it mean I think that they're one and done? No. Do. I don't think they do. I think they can beat the Celtics in a series. Absolutely I do. But I'm watching things with this team that I'm like, they got to get this right. And they're running out of games to get it right.

[Rosenberg]

So what the fans say they're not. And again, I'm not just talking about fans.

[Alan Hahn]

You have to worry now.

[Rosenberg]

I'm talking about talk show host. That seems to be the consensus is I'm not worried, I'm not scared. We're good, we're going to the finals. Don't worry about it. I think they're. They're trying to convince themselves. I think fans are worried. If you, if you follow this team and care, you are scared. You just don't want to admit it. So you're coming up with reasons like these games don't matter. Come on. There's enough evidence to tell you I

[Alan Hahn]

hate that the games don't matter. The games all matter. They absolutely matter. And yes, well, they do matter. You've lost three out of four here. One was a battle. The two in LA were embarrassing. They were not good performances by you. Not to take anything away from the Clippers and Lakers. These were not good games by you. But what's coming up now is a soft serve ice cream.

[Don Hahn]

They're going to be.

[Rosenberg]

They're going to beat the crap out of the.

[Alan Hahn]

And that could be fool's gold. But how you play. I know this time of year against the good teams and I thought the OKC loss was one of those rare good losses. Then they followed up by going into Denver and smoking that team. They beat the spurs the Sunday before. You're going, wait a second. Like that's a pretty impressive week. And then they go, go to L. A and they do that.

[Rosenberg]

But if you believe there's nothing to worry about.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't.

[Rosenberg]

But if you're a fan out there, 1-800-919-3776 that believes we're not scared we're going, then you must believe the regular season doesn't mean anything because things are happening. Trends are taking place that tell you you should be concerned.

[Alan Hahn]

Teams are developing.

[Rosenberg]

You're seeing what's happening in Boston.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Hey, you're seeing what's happening in Detroit. They've lost four in a row. They hit a wall now. If you believe. You're not worried, well, then I'm sure they're in Detroit going, listen, we're in first place. We don't care. We. We lost four in a row. So what?

[Alan Hahn]

No, they lost Thompson to injury. I saw Thompson.

[Rosenberg]

Cunningham didn't play against the Brooklyn.

[Alan Hahn]

Cunningham is getting. He's hitting a little bit of fatigue wall. And they're. They're trying to take care of his minutes because he's showing that he's starting to wear down. And Duran, as much as he's an all Star, he's not a second star that can carry you when you know Cade's not available. There's some things happening with that team right now. Their schedule has been a mess. That's why, you know, again for them, you got to wonder about were they driving too hard all season? Are they running out of gas at the worst time? You watch that. But I like. To me this all sets up. People need to understand the regular season does matter because you can't complain if they end up in the third seed or the fourth seed and they don't have home court in the second round or they have to play a team that really matches up well with them earlier rather than later. This. This stuff matters right now. And it is tight one through four. They really, by the way, the Celtics lose the next two, which they could. It's the spurs and the Thunder and the Knicks win the next two and they could. Cause it's Utah and Indiana. Guess where the Knicks are. Right there. Does that matter when you have home court in the second round? Of course it matters.

[Rosenberg]

It seems to be very fluid, at least with the fans. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the fans.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And I hear it so much. Peter. I'm sure you hear it, too. I'm not worried. They're fine. They're going to go.

[Don Hahn]

I think it's. I'm not hearing as much as you are. I'm sensing a little more.

[Rosenberg]

I'm just saying on this show.

[Don Hahn]

I believe you on this radio station.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. And like, you see the issues and you just can't always. Maybe one night. All right, we didn't show up.

[Don Hahn]

Whatever.

[Rosenberg]

But man, you see Cleveland's crawling up your back. You see Tatum is back and he's healthy and he's playing 27 minutes.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

Unless you don't care about where you finish. You should be red hot that you've lost the last two games that you lost.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, you should have been in the first quarter against the Clippers in a building that, by the way, was almost 60 to 70% Nick fans, of course, in that building. And you start off the game by giving up soft open threes to a team that doesn't shoot threes. And then they get into the rhythm that you know what happens. And now all of a sudden they're just playing free and you're chasing the scoreboard the rest of the game because you didn't come out of the gate ready to throw the first punch after you played a bad game on national TV the, literally the day before. That's the stuff that you're looking for from them. And that stuff does frustrate you because, you know, in the playoffs, as we learned in the Eastern Conference finals, you give away game one, you can't say, otta, we'll get game two and everything will be even. Because how did game two go? Now, you gave that team Indiana life. Now, you gave them a chance, they stole a game and now you gave them the chance to win one on your court and take command of the series that you, you never could get back. That's a dangerous place to be. And this team's mentality is the thing that does worry you. When they're locked in, they're as good as anybody, I'm telling you. But these two games in LA bother you. They have to bother you about, about this team. Because the problem that I see is there is still great opportunity for this next team to get to the finals. But do they see it? Do they realize their opportunity right now?

[Rosenberg]

Or do they think, hey, listen, we're good, we're fine, we got nothing to prove, we'll be, we'll turn it on when we need to turn it on.

[Alan Hahn]

Dangerous place to be, I've always said that.

[Rosenberg]

Dangerous place to be flipping the switch on and off. And eventually you flip it on and it doesn't become the breaker.

[Alan Hahn]

And you know what else they should know? The bridges of the world. Towns like, you got to understand something. The Greek, he's going to be on the table in the summer and they're going to have to because of all the picks they gave up for bridges, they're going to have to move hell or high water to get him because he wants to be here. That means that whole roster is torn to shreds.

[Rosenberg]

Teams that they can beat anybody, they can lose to anybody. That's not the way you Describe a championship team one, 800-9193776. Let's go to Manny and Flushing. You're on ESPN, New York.

[Jimmy]

What's up guys? How y' all doing?

[Rosenberg]

What's up?

[Jimmy]

Well, listen, before we'll get to the next start, I don't want to hear a damn word about their word of Steve Kerr. Talk about teams with fewer games because that guy say some things that I don't like. I mean, I'll never forget what he did with Jonathan Kaminga and the other recent, the draft pick James Wise. But the guy, remember James Wiseman? You remember guys.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he's now a rapper.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah. But let's go back to the Knicks. Listen, I think those two games is disappointing for a lot of reasons. I think because the Knicks have a pattern of getting to slow starts like when they, when they're down, like in the first quarter, they actually struggle like when they style the first quarter and you know, they commit too many turnovers, they don't pass the ball particularly well. I think that Mike Brown is alluding to it because if they can win like 16 to 20 turnovers, they usually lose. And yes, I mean you're right about the McHale bridges of tales there because I thought the last two games he played very well with the, the 20 and 30 double double in both respected games. But Bridges, man, when you have seven where you average around 3.5 points the last two games, that's aggressive before disaster. And he has to play better because instead of like jockeying shots, he usually hit the free throws and dunk the ball. He can't be doing this weak ass layoffs and it's just say oh, like that it's not going to count. But listen, the only thing they should be worried about is themselves because yes, the Pistons have not, I mean, have been a funk. Boston, you know, they're the Celtics. I mean, I'm not surprised the way they're playing, especially with T bag. The, the Cav Lewis are catching up. And don't look and listen, don't be surprised. You know, teams like the Raptors and the Magic, we have something to say about that. But the Knicks, man, I hope that the next several games will wake them up because I do, I do believe they will recover. But I mean, listen, I just don't want to hear, you know, every time when they win it's like okay, championship intention. But when they lose, said this siege is over because I don't believe the scene is over. I'm not. It's just the fans, even the sub media, AKA Stephen A. Smith all right. Thank you, guys. Have a nice.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

People tend to overreact, but, you know, all they have to do is worry about themselves. No, you've got other things to worry about. You can't beat the Pistons. But, you know, Boston right now is a problem and Jimmy's going to bring it up, man. He's going to go there, and it bothers me, but Jimmy and Kinetic is going to go there. Go ahead, Jimmy. What are you going to say?

[Jimmy]

I don't think I'm going to say what you think I'm going to say, John.

[Rosenberg]

I think you're going to say.

[Jimmy]

Okay, go ahead.

[Rosenberg]

Let's see.

[Jimmy]

Yes, as a Nick fan, a big Nick fan, I see things in losses, especially like over the weekend, that concern me in the grand scheme of things. Yes, they do concern me. I. But I've seen a lot of positives from this team. They have proven to me on certain nights that they have. They have the ability to win a championship, in my opinion. But then you see games, like over the weekend that make you question. All I'm going to say when you pull back and look at it through a wider lens is I would be more concerned if it was the other way around, if they weren't showing up for the big test. But they worship. But they were just rolling over and that's what they did last year. And I'm not saying the same result will happen this year as it did last year, because as you said, Detroit was not. Detroit's a hungry team this year. Boston was coming off a championship. I'm not saying the same thing is going to happen, but I have faith that this team has the ability to elevate their game in the playoffs because they show the ability to turn it on when they face good teams. And you're only facing good teams in the playoffs. That's all I'm saying.

[Rosenberg]

Where I thought you were going to go, Jimmy, is, well, we beat the Celtics last year. So what?

[Jimmy]

No, no, it's not the same thing last year. That doesn't apply to anything.

[Rosenberg]

And I love the Knick fans because they by far are the most confident and most positive of any of the fans in New York. All you did, and it was a big thing. But the only thing the Knicks did last year was beat the Celtics, and that was a big deal. But that was one series win against the team. Coming off a championship. You expect to, you know, come back from 20 points down every night and beat the Celtics again. They're going to have a chip on their shoulder after what Happened last year. All right, Last year's last year, now

[Alan Hahn]

it's this year, that story.

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[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

So again, the Celtics can look and go, well, we know we can do it because we've done it. We've won a championship. The Knicks, they've got that one win against the Celtics. And as big as it was, that does not mean yo, they'll. You don't worry, they'll show up when they have to. Well, did you show up against the Pacers, a team that you thought was a fait accompli? You were beating them.

[Alan Hahn]

You had a double digit lead in the fourth quarter at home.

[Rosenberg]

What has this team done other than you just being super fan to give you that kind of confidence? What have they accomplished?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, they've. No.

[Don Hahn]

Well, how about they have a few. They have the, the dominance against really great Western Conference teams is something you can hang your hat on a little bit. Yes, but it's the Detroit part. Not winning a quarter against Detroit all year, that hurts.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, the Detroit thing, especially the first two games, they were, they were coming off of blood like they were those games where one team was pissed off and the other team's like, what are you so mad about? You know what I mean? Like that, that's, that's what that.

[Rosenberg]

Was they ever mad?

[Alan Hahn]

What do you mean?

[Rosenberg]

Whenever, when, when are the Knicks ever mad?

[Alan Hahn]

That's, that's a great point, you know,

[Rosenberg]

because shouldn't you been mad the way you lost to the Lakers and smacked the Clippers around?

[Alan Hahn]

Did you instead you open that game as if it was a script, a summer league scrimmage, you know, you don't

[Rosenberg]

want to see tomorrow. I want them to beat the jazz by 40. Jazz don't want to win.

[Alan Hahn]

They don't care. No.

[Rosenberg]

And after what happened the last two games, smack him around. But I'd like to know because you know, you're closer to it than I am. When do they play mad? When do they get upset?

[Alan Hahn]

It's been, it's like again, the, the OKC game, not mad. But that game at the Garden, it was the second of a back to back, remember? But that was. They played hard. Like, hard. And that's like. Those are the rare moments where you watch and you're just like, okay, like when they dial it up, they could be as good as anybody. But there's so many times though, where you just get frustrated by missed shots, affect them mentally and simple defense against them, which are obvious things they do. There's no, okay, we're now going to twist that on you and we're just going to score at will. It's and then they'll make these comebacks late and you're like, well, where was this whole game? It's that 48 minute game thing that I watch the Spurs, I watch okc. I've been watching Boston a lot lately. And it's like you never question those things with those three teams. Never. And that's why when we think about the championship caliber teams, the Knicks are just outside that, that club. They can't get in the room because they don't consistently do what those three teams do. Those three teams legitimately do that. The Pistons for most of the season had done that. That's run out of gas now. But for the Knicks to be in that conversation, that needed to be a thing they're conditioned to do every night. And you're telling me that when the playoffs come now, they'll do it every night. That's not easy to just, that's not easy to rest your laurel laurels on that and believe that's what they're going to do because I have seen them get flustered and frustrated by missed, missed open threes and also a team that defends them physically.

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[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don Hahn]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes you just can't take it anymore. This is. Let's Talk About It Tuesday with Don Hahn and Rosenberg. All right.

[Don Hahn]

Well, I've been waiting all day for it because I. I took my time today.

[Rosenberg]

All day for Sunday night.

[Don Hahn]

Sounds like Joan Jett, doesn't it, when you start.

[Rosenberg]

You know what?

[Alan Hahn]

That's what it was.

[Rosenberg]

A great call.

[Alan Hahn]

Ripoff.

[Don Hahn]

It was. It was. Right?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. You didn't know that?

[Don Hahn]

I didn't know.

[Alan Hahn]

Didn't she try to sue?

[Don Hahn]

Did she?

[Alan Hahn]

I thought so.

[Rosenberg]

She should have sued him dead.

[Don Hahn]

Well, it's funny. It's the first thing in the title of our show today, if you go on YouTube. But it's. We're talking about it now, okay? And that is the wbc, the World Baseball Classic to you and me, where last night we had a big matchup between the US And Mexico.

[Rosenberg]

Okay?

[Don Hahn]

And the US Ends up getting the win. Aaron Judge. Another Rama Lama ding dong.

[Rosenberg]

The border wars are always the ones.

[Don Hahn]

That's what you got to watch out in these tournaments.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Two for three, three RBI for. For good old Judgy. He's playing great, which is a nice thing if you're a Yankee fan. But the that guy moment, I needed some time to interpret it because I wasn't quite sure what happened.

[Rosenberg]

Okay?

[Don Hahn]

And you'll see, there's a moment When Seattle Mariner Randy Rosarena, borderline. The great Randy Rosarena walks up to the plate and who's behind the plate for America?

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Don?

[Don Hahn]

Cal Raleigh. That's Cal Raleigh?

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

You're familiar with his work?

[Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Don Hahn]

And their teammates in Seattle coming off a great year together.

[Rosenberg]

Oh yeah. Almost went to the World Series and

[Don Hahn]

a Rosarena sticks out his fist or his. No, it's more his hand. Sticks out his hand for a handshake.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

And Cal Raleigh doesn't give a hand back. And then you see, arose lean down to talk to him and can't quite hear what he's saying. He's like, what? And you see him like continue to try to like hear what he's saying and then he kind of just goes up back to his stance and bats. And this was posted online and I saw people initially, you know, there was some debate about what happened and I saw initially some of the comments like obviously you know nothing about catching. A catcher wouldn't want to shake hands with a batter cuz they could get pine tar on their hands and that could affect them throwing the ball.

[Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Don Hahn]

Some of the very small, I mean very smart inside baseball people said that.

[Rosenberg]

What about the fist bump?

[Don Hahn]

It could be something. You'd think so. I said that's interesting. I wonder what happens. Waited a little bit and now the video has come out of Randy or Rosarena being interviewed by a Mexican outlet in which he expressed Cal Raleigh. He's fortunate to have had a lovely upbringing with wonderful parents. I know his parents ran into them at the hotel. They're great. That guy can go bleep himself. That's how I feel. Go BLEEP yourself. You can't shake my hand. No, we're teammates. And now what's the Mariners manager again?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, it's been so long since we've had.

[Don Hahn]

Come on, why don't you give it to me someone?

[Commercial Announcer 1]

Come on.

[Don Hahn]

Either way, he's been interviewed now about weighed in. They're both great competitors. Dan Wilson. I'm going to talk to them both. They're both great competitors. The great Dan Wilson to you and me. But like if it is in fact what it appears to be. And that's all I could go on. I waited to get as much information as I could, but now I'm going to be. I'm going to go on what I have. And you were unable to shake hands with your real life everyday teammate because you're in the middle of heated battle of that Mexico USA baseball rivalry. There's something Wrong with Cal Raleigh. That means there's something wrong with you. I mean, I know the WBC is fun, and I know we want to win.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, this is made up, but this is made up.

[Don Hahn]

You can't. This is your real teammate. He's one of the best players on the team.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, you guys are two of the best.

[Don Hahn]

Well, Carol is the best player on the team. Now Randy Rosarena is one of the best players on your team. You can't shake hands in the wbc. No, I mean, I know this is a. That guy, but it's Tuesday, so I talk about war with me.

[Rosenberg]

That's where I went. I mean, I always love the whole. I don't. I don't. I don't like when they fraternize and all friendly. Come on, you got a game to play.

[Alan Hahn]

It's fair.

[Rosenberg]

But Major League Baseball has made it clear that during their regular season, you know, the. Whoever's playing first base and the guy for their. If the camera's quick, you could see, like, they're making out with each other.

[Alan Hahn]

Joking around.

[Rosenberg]

Like, it's amazing, like, how well they're messing around. They're fooling. Like, they all love each other. They're all in the same union. They've all been teammates and everything. Like, I understand you're trying to send out the perception that the WBC is Ward and maybe I don't know him that well to know. Maybe that's just how competitive he is. But obviously his own teammate didn't take it well. He knows him as well as anybody, right? He knows him more than we do.

[Don Hahn]

Have you seen.

[Rosenberg]

If he knew that Raleigh was that guy, he wouldn't have attempted to shake his hand or fist bump, but he did.

[Don Hahn]

That's the part that's so weird.

[Rosenberg]

It feels performative to me because, heck, when it the super bowl, the coin flip, after the coins flip, everybody shakes hands. All right. To have a good game.

[Don Hahn]

Well, and this is.

[Rosenberg]

They don't death stare each other into the Super Bowl.

[Don Hahn]

And this is the opposite. This is the opposite. This is.

[Rosenberg]

Can I be clearer from my family? How dare you try and take money out of my pocket. Oh, win the super bowl, man. Let's go.

[Don Hahn]

And this, Don, is the opposite. This is a. Not only is this a made up sort of international tournament, whatever. It's the round robin. It's the first round. They all play each other. This is not a big deal.

[Rosenberg]

Trying too hard, bro.

[Don Hahn]

Trying too hard, bro. Dap up the. But I'll tell you this. I love a Rosarito not holding back in the thing because he.

[Rosenberg]

See, that's the part that you love.

[Don Hahn]

No, he was very clear. He laid it out. I ran into his family earlier. We hugged at the hotel. Yeah, I generally think he's a great guy, but. But that was nonsense. You can go bleep yourself. And just walked off. He dropped the mic and walked out of the interview. He had no interest. And it's interesting now. Mexico now drops to third. US Is one, Italy is two. But Mexico will play Italy tomorrow, so I believe they would need to beat Italy. US plays Italy tonight at 9 o'. Clock.

[Alan Hahn]

So there's a battle of the great food countries. Let's be honest.

[Don Hahn]

Mexico, by the way. By the way, get baseball out. To me, that could be one and two, either direction in the food seating.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what I'm saying. All depends on the day.

[Don Hahn]

Now you tell me there's a China Japan matchup on the other side. Now you're having one of the greatest food wars we've ever seen.

[Alan Hahn]

The greatest Final Four in any history. Kobe beef.

[Don Hahn]

That's a.

[Rosenberg]

That's a great sesame chicken.

[Don Hahn]

That's a great take.

[Alan Hahn]

Who are you taking out? What other country are you throwing in there for food?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I don't.

[Alan Hahn]

You can't.

[Don Hahn]

I don't think you can.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, that's your four. That's the four best.

[Rosenberg]

That's the four major.

[Don Hahn]

Although I always. I always think Chinese is tough because we don't actually know Chinese food. We know American Chinese food, like Japanese food. We're having real Japanese food, that cuisine.

[Alan Hahn]

Japan, yeah.

[Don Hahn]

You know Chinese food. I don't think you go to China. You're in Beijing, you're like, what number is the general Sos.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

It's not.

[Rosenberg]

That's a good question.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, I know.

[Alan Hahn]

I read all that number.

[Don Hahn]

This is American. This was created by Chinese immigrants as American Chinese understood. Now, at its best, though, don't ruin a good fun, though. It's in the convo.

[Rosenberg]

What's hibachi again?

[Don Hahn]

Hibachi. Japanese.

[Alan Hahn]

That's Japanese.

[Rosenberg]

That's wonderful.

[Don Hahn]

You love Japanese. Do they do that there in Japan

[Rosenberg]

or is that old just.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, no. I believe. I believe that all that stuff is actually there.

[Alan Hahn]

I hope so.

[Don Hahn]

I bet. No, listen, as I pointed out, when I went to Japan, the one thing that jumped out to me is that I found sushi a little bit harder to get than you would imagine. Like, I thought it would be every restaurant sushi. It's not every restaurant like every other restaurant. Is noodles.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

They literally have machines. You go up and you can push buttons and order noodles. They're everywhere.

[Alan Hahn]

Sushi.

[Don Hahn]

It's plenty of it, but you got to still look it up. And they go, where's a good sushi? I didn't quite realize that until I went to Tokyo.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

But anyways, so just a lame moment from Cal. Cal Raleigh, who's a guy we all don't know that much about, but we're

[Alan Hahn]

getting to know him right now, and

[Don Hahn]

this is going to be one of his bigger moments.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, like, imagine if that's Judge. Judge would never do that.

[Rosenberg]

No, but. But why do I feel like Yankee fans would love it if he did do.

[Don Hahn]

But no, not against one of their own.

[Alan Hahn]

Come on.

[Don Hahn]

These aren't just fellow big leaguers. They're teammates.

[Rosenberg]

Like, it depends on who it would be. Right.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, so he's at second base, and there's Jazz Chisholm. Right. Or.

[Don Hahn]

Because that could happen, I believe.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don Hahn]

No, was it. Or was it Great Britain?

[Rosenberg]

Great Britain.

[Don Hahn]

It was Great Britain.

[Alan Hahn]

Great Britain. Yeah. Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

So think about it. He's a second base, and Jazz is like, giving him, you know, put his hand out, and Judge is like, no, we're at war.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Nobody.

[Alan Hahn]

That's a bad look.

[Don Hahn]

It's not a good do that. And if you're a fan of the Mariners, you're going, we want you guys on the same page. You're having fun.

[Alan Hahn]

Now they go back and do we have issues? Probably not.

[Rosenberg]

Probably not.

[Don Hahn]

I'm sure it'll die off after that.

[Alan Hahn]

But it wasn't that guy moment, but

[Rosenberg]

it was starting to heat up.

[Alan Hahn]

Definitely something to talk about.

[Rosenberg]

That was good. That was good.

[Don Hahn]

Thank you.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you, L.A. marathon was Sunday.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, we talked about this.

[Alan Hahn]

Did you see the end?

[Don Hahn]

This may be an end, but I want your take on it.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, please talk about it honestly.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, and we didn't cover all of it, though, because didn't we get more information when we went off the air?

[Rosenberg]

Yes, I believe we did.

[Alan Hahn]

There's more information.

[Don Hahn]

Well, I can't remember if this was on the air or off the air.

[Anthony]

It was sort of on the air. We found out that there was a woman that may have accidentally directed the leader to the wrong way.

[Don Hahn]

The leader down the stretch was misdirected for probably. And probably lost five or six seconds.

[Alan Hahn]

This is not my talk about it.

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Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

The finish is not my talk about it. It was a wild finish. Big part of the story before the race. Bigger story.

[Rosenberg]

Whoa.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. So the McCourt foundation hosts the marathon in LA right on their website. They told runners before the race that if you were having a tough day, you can still get a medal. All you have to do is get to the 18th mile marker. Now the races as you know, 26.2 miles.

[Don Hahn]

That's right.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what you and me. Yeah, but you can still get a finisher medal at the 18th mile. It's very strange. So this is, this was the code. This was on their page. If you're having a tough day and want to end your race before 26.2, you can choose to take the turn at mile 18 and head to the finish line early.

[Don Hahn]

Clown show.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, they said the reason why was because of the race day weather, that it would be a slightly warmer than a typical LA Marathon race day. It was gonna get to about 80 degrees. So you know, usually you race, it's like, you know, in the 60s right now they said was only supposed to be for this year, but still, what are we doing?

[Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

And I understand you're having a bad day. You train for this thing and it's hotter than you expected and you get to 18, which is the wall. Anybody that runs marathons? Emma, by the way, my daughter. This Sunday, New York City half marathon, she's participating.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, she's in. There we go.

[Alan Hahn]

Very proud of her. She ran track in school. This is her first time. She's going to attempt to do a marathon at some point. But this is her build up. So I'm excited for Emma. But I even asked her like if, if you had that option, what would you do? She's like, I don't want to finish your medal. I didn't finish. The whole idea of the race is not you. I mean the, the great ones try to win it of course, but really for most people who run a marathon, it's the idea is I finished, I got through the 26.2, which is the point. Very difficult stopping at 18 because it's too hot and I still get a medal. Are you showing people the medal? Hey, yeah, it's my medal from the LA marathon. Oh really? What time's you finishing? Well, I didn't quite finish well. How'd you get the medal? Well, because I got to 18 and they told me I could quit if I wanted to.

[Don Hahn]

It's, it's very.

[Alan Hahn]

How do we feel?

[Don Hahn]

No, it's not, it's not, It's.

[Alan Hahn]

I understand. We want to encourage people to try. We want to also recognize efforts, but are we really doing this no, you

[Don Hahn]

don't get a medal. Don, listen. You obviously don't just get a medal for winning. It's a marathon. Completing it is amazing.

[Alan Hahn]

Right?

[Don Hahn]

But yet the thing is kind of completing it, that's what makes it the

[Rosenberg]

marathon bothers me, is a finishing medal. Well, why can't you get a medal for participation? I participated. I did half of the of it. I survived 18 miles of the marathon. Why do you get to have the same thing? The person that finished it, just as hot for them.

[Don Hahn]

It's very weird.

[Rosenberg]

It's so ridiculous.

[Alan Hahn]

If you can't do it, you can't do it. That's just how it works. A participation, everybody get. Yeah, you try. That's what you should get. But because you get to 18, which is considered the wall, a lot of people can't. They just. They can't do it. And so you still take home a medal that says finisher and you feel good about, like that's what I need to talk about. Would you feel good about it? You would look at that medal every day going, I didn't really feel.

[Don Hahn]

I know I did 18.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, you saw how disgusting.

[Don Hahn]

If it was golf, you know, listen, if it was golf, 18 is completion. Congratulations, you did it.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

In marathons, that's a little less than 2/3 to you and me. Like, 18's not even that close to the end.

[Rosenberg]

Alan.

[Don Hahn]

I could maybe even play along if there was like, there's a rule. And if you make it to 23 miles of a 26 mile marathon, it's considered some sort of completion. 18 is not that close. When you're training. Anthony, you're a runner, right?

[Anthony]

Lapsed, but yes.

[Don Hahn]

When people train for marathons.

[Anthony]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

They get up to a half marathon then, do they? What's the next level you get up to? Past 13?

[Anthony]

I'm not gonna say that I ever personally trained for one. But you do get to levels where you try to do 15 mile, 18 mile days. You never really get. I don't think you. I can't say this for sure, but I don't think you ever actually run a marathon while you train.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

Up to 15, to 16, to 17. As Alan said, eventually your legs are

[Don Hahn]

going to get to a point where

[Anthony]

you can't feel them because I ran a half once and by like mile seven or eight, I stopped feeling my legs. So you just keep going because there's nothing to hurt anymore.

[Don Hahn]

Well, I think we should give you a completion medal for this year's Los Angeles Marathon.

[Anthony]

I would accept.

[Don Hahn]

Anthony, I think you did a great job. What half marathon did you run?

[Anthony]

That was actually just something that cross country team we did and said let's

[Don Hahn]

see what you can finish in high school, you mean?

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[Don Hahn]

Well, I'm willing to give you this year's completion medal. I think you did a great job.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you.

[Anthony]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast.

[Don Hahn]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want to. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rosenberg]

Just sad news to report, Matt. Matt Snell, Jet Grape, passed away today at the age of 84. Of course, he was great in Super Bowl 3. 121 yards on the ground and a touchdown. It can make the case that he should have been the MVP of that super bowl. And he passes to the age of 84. And I think we can all agree that Michael would not take that. Michael, 84.

[Don Hahn]

He didn't consider 94.

[Rosenberg]

I don't even think he would do that. We were going to do this at five, but he's got some travel, so we're going to talk to him now. And Peter Schrager's nice enough to join us here. Talk a little football till the top of the hour. You're on. Don Hanna, Rosenberg, thanks for a couple of minutes, man. Appreciate it.

[Peter Schrager]

No doubt, hustling from the McAfee Studios in Indianapolis to the airport and hopefully back in New York tonight.

[Alan Hahn]

We saw this.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I'll say. You deserve better.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, we were watching it during our production meeting. When did you and Dano decide to do a Tiny Desk concert?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I didn't know you guys were a group.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah, yeah, we're big fans of Tiny Desk. We like what they do.

[Alan Hahn]

Is that pbs?

[Peter Schrager]

Is that what that is? Or npr?

[Alan Hahn]

Npr.

[Peter Schrager]

Npr. Respect what they do. No. And I was wearing short, short pants and was getting a lot of comments on not wearing socks. I say screw it to all the haters. Screw it, guys.

[Don Hahn]

Now, did you at least get some delicious shrimp while you were in Indianapolis? Get some shrimp cocktail?

[Peter Schrager]

No, no, none of that. I wish none of that. There was no time for that. We had to report on Alante Taylor and where he was signing. There was no time to fraternize.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what this week is about. Hey, it's better than Shefty being in the closet.

[Peter Schrager]

Oh, my God.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, Shefty. I didn't realize when they panned out Shreks to see you and Dano in like the little corner and then, and then to see Shefty behind the glass door in his own little studio. That. That was wild.

[Don Hahn]

It was a visual.

[Rosenberg]

It was a visual.

[Alan Hahn]

It was something. This has been a week for you guys.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah. And I've never worked with Adam. I'm new to espn and I've always known he's a madman, but I didn't realize he was like a padded walls madman. And he was pacing around screaming into the phone, and then I would just pop my head in like, you good?

[Rosenberg]

He's like, yeah, great.

[Don Hahn]

I'm good.

[Peter Schrager]

I'm good. And then he would just break every story. It was like watching a maestro at work.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes. He loves this.

[Don Hahn]

Is there Craigs? What is considered the biggest thing? I mean, obviously here we're focused on the jets and the Giants, but nothing huge there either. What's the biggest thing to come out of the last couple of days, in your opinion?

[Peter Schrager]

Well, the quantity of it all. Yesterday was really cool and it felt like a big event. And it felt like the NFL stole the day from the World Baseball Classic and stole it from the NBA. When the Knicks were on that west coast trip and there was just action. The biggest two moves really were the Raiders spending more money than any interior offensive lineman has ever gotten on a guy. Lindenbaum, who was not. He didn't get the fifth year option picked up by the Bravens less than a year ago. So big money being spent there. And then to me, Malik Willis being told, basically, you're one of the 32 starters in the NFL despite 35 pass attempts over the last two years. So two major, major moves for those organizations and big money speed that maybe other teams didn't value at that much money.

[Rosenberg]

Well, the big story today, Geno Smith to the jets, it's a trade rather than it be a signing because they were afraid somebody else would gobble them up. Was there legit concern that there would have been another team that would have grabbed Geno if the jets didn't make this deal?

[Peter Schrager]

This was like a stopgap move. I know. And look, I know every one of the Jet fans and the memes and everyone's banging their head against the wall. They're paying Geno Smith about a million bucks this year, and the Raiders are going to eat his entire salary. You get a guy who's been an NFL quarterback in about 10 different systems has seen it all, done it all. To me, it's. It's one of those where we know he's not the future. We also know he's an adult in the room. You could put Geno Smith under center just like you could Put Kirk Cousins or Tyrod Taylor or any of these other veteran guys who have seen it all, you could put them under there and you can win a game and at the very least, you can get these guys going on an offense and not be completely lost. I thought the last month of the season for jets fans was as horrendous an experience any fan base has ever had to deal with. Going out there with an untested quarterback and a team that basically was told, yeah, just go out there and finish the game. It's unfair to the season ticket holders. It's unfair to the jets fans at home. Geno Smith is not the answer to all these problems. But when another team is paying him his entire salary and you're paying him as little as possible as a veteran quarterback, it is a huge upgrade from what the situation was at the end of last year.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, we saw in the previous three years before he went to Las Vegas that he had good seasons in Seattle. How much of what last year was, Was Geno falling off or was it just the Raiders were that bad?

[Peter Schrager]

Raiders were awful. Terrible offensive line play, guys missing assignments left and right. But Geno wasn't good either. He was inaccurate. Wasn't what they hoped. Now remember, and this is the comedy of it all, like we react in real time and say, oh, I don't want Geno Smith. Last year when the Raiders made the move to get Geno Smith, everyone said, oh, the Seahawks are screwed. They have to settle for Sam Darnold. And Raiders just got a steal with Geno Smith. A year later, it's Geno Smith is the worst quarterback in the league and Sam Darnold is a Super bowl mvp. This is how things go. Super bowl winner and Kenneth Walker was the mfp. I think there's something in between for Geno Smith. Again, it makes for great memes and it makes for great social media activity to have a complete crash out and a meltdown over designing a Geno Smith. They got a veteran quarterback, he's an adult in the room and obviously he's not the future. And when you don't have the number one overall pick, you can't pick Mendoza. So here is a different option that they have and guess what? They know they need to get a quarterback in the next two years.

[Rosenberg]

Overall, what did you think they did between yesterday and today?

[Jimmy]

Good. Good.

[Peter Schrager]

I think they got guys at the right number. I thought the team is a better team than they are today than they were two days ago. Like I thought Muji did. Well, it doesn't matter the next two years. The draft is where this team is going to make their bones. I know Breeze hall is bellyaching a little bit about giving the franchise tag, but if you look at those weapons, you got Breece, you got Garrett Wilson, you got Mason Taylor, and you've got one of the better offensive lines in football. They will be okay. You could put them out there on the field. And oh, by the way, five first round picks the next two years, you better get a quarterback.

[Alan Hahn]

So all right. How about the Giants though, and the money they threw around, including getting a punter? There was a lot of Baltimore to New York kind of shuffling going on here with Harbaugh. Yeah.

[Peter Schrager]

And I think they wanted that. The likely one is the big move. Isaiah likely is a guy who not only Harbaugh but Greg Roman knows very well. And you look at the systems that Matt Nagy ran or was operating, it might have been Andy Reid system system. But the way that they use their tight ends, whether it be Travis Kelce or Bell or any of the different tight ends they had on the field, now they can go to multiple tight ends. They like Theo Johnson. Now you get Isaiah Likely, who's a receiving tight end, but he can block. And then of course you add in some of the other acquisitions that they made as far as signings, the kicker, the punter and Stout. And then today the corner with Greg Newsom. Then you bring back two guys that they were excited to bring back. You know, Illuminor can block. And then today Micah McFadden's not going

[Alan Hahn]

to win you the day.

[Peter Schrager]

But that was a linebacker they liked. Solid day by the Giants and yes, very Raven feel to it. But you better believe John Harbaugh is going to have his footprint and his handprints all over every move they make.

[Rosenberg]

And it seems like that's what coaches and general managers do. They go with somebody that's familiar. Look what Tennessee did. You've got a former Giant head coaches and all they did was gobble up former jets and Giants.

[Peter Schrager]

And what a funny narrative. I said this today on McAfee, I said I forgot that Wanda Robinson was Jerry Rice. Like they signed Wondale Robinson and all of a sudden, oh, he knows Dable. And that's the. It's like, all right, slow down. Robert Salah gets Jermaine Johnson and John Franklin Myers. And it's like, well, there's a familiarity there. What a home run pick. Well, it doesn't necessarily mean anything. It means the coach knows the player and they're going to vouch for him, getting an all star team of ex Giants and Jets, to me isn't exactly home run hitting either. So last couple of years, yeah, the Tennessee Titans, everyone's doing flips because they spent a lot of money. But as I always say, you didn't win free agency in the first two days.

[Don Hahn]

The.

[Alan Hahn]

The.

[Don Hahn]

The idea of an all star team made comprised of recent jets and Giants is ironic just in nature.

[Alan Hahn]

So much winning whom.

[Peter Schrager]

The Giants and Jets opted not to resign to extension.

[Don Hahn]

I'm sorry, guys. Can I ask Rigs one thing for me, please? One thing. How do you feel about how my commanders did the last couple of days?

[Peter Schrager]

Well, I'll tell you, I don't think they're done. I think they've still got some work to do. Away is a good pass rusher. He was a guy that was coveted by a bunch of teams and they're still digging out of some contracts and some stuff that they've got to go with. So how did they do? They did fine. I think they got a pass rusher that's going to start for them. And I would keep an eye on Juwan Johnson. The Niners have a pipeline, obviously with Adam Peters there in Washington, and he's still on sign. Maybe the number's right. Of course, they went with Deebo last time around. I don't think Iuk is the guy there. I don't think you can make that one. But Juwan Johnson would make a lot of sense.

[Don Hahn]

Do you think I you wants to play somewhere? Is that a thing?

[Peter Schrager]

I think so. I think he'd love to. I would like to think he'd still want to play football, but it was such a disaster in San Francisco and for the way the 49ers openly talked about how that went the last year, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement. He's going to have to rebuild his career.

[Rosenberg]

All right, I know you got to run. Thanks for giving us a couple of minutes, man. We'll talk to you soon.

[Peter Schrager]

Absolutely.

[Don Hahn]

Go, Nick.

[Alan Hahn]

Let's go.

[Rosenberg]

Peter Schrager leaving Indianapolis on his way to the airport. Anybody who's got a commercial flight knows you want to take up as much time as possible to get there so that you don't have to have what's happening in New Orleans right now with

[Don Hahn]

that could have been my talk about it. I saw a picture of what's happened in New Orleans. That is. I think I drive, guys. If I get to the airport and there's a parking lot to the line in the parking lot, I'm driving Plenty

[Rosenberg]

to talk about coming up. Don Hanna, Rosenberg till 6:30, then it's Rangers hockey on ESPN New York.

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

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