Don LaGreca (1:45)

Well, that the people hate kids and it took somebody stepping on the scale to help at least one of the kids win. No, I.

Alan Hahn (1:54)

Why? I tweeted out for both. Peter. I didn't show favoritism. Well, the only favoritism to was children.

Peter Rosenberg (2:03)

La James.

Don LaGreca (2:05)

So they just said, well, we can't have two kids advance.

Peter Rosenberg (2:09)

Yeah, they said one was enough. And again, the irony, I really think the irony is that Maya should have walked past her competition because as funny as the Heyman thing is, it's like not a drop. It's like a. You know, we've. We heard the. The Maya Mama clip played for months on this show.

Don LaGreca (2:28)

But to Don's moment.

Peter Rosenberg (2:31)

It's a moment. You know, he did the best he could for both children, but we know Don is preferred to the audience over me, so it makes sense Marco would be preferred over my adorable little girl, you know, and it's unfortunate.

Don LaGreca (2:44)

Well, we'll just keep playing the drop, that's all. You might not want it to win, but we're going to play it anyway.

Alan Hahn (2:49)

Holy Canoli is down 6 here.

Don LaGreca (2:51)

Stop it. Now. I'm gonna step on the. On the scale.

Peter Rosenberg (2:55)

You can't step again, okay? We gotta let these things just play. No step it play out.

Don LaGreca (2:59)

Well, let's let this play out because. Don, give me a. Just a synopsis of what you said about the Knicks earlier this week. That at first I was kind of pushing back on because I really wasn't buying into it, but now I'm like, watching last night. 114, 103 loss in Charlotte, which I warned you, this Charlotte team, this is not November. Charlotte is a different team. And I did say this is gonna be a tough game, but I didn't expect him to be down 21 in the fourth quarter. But it happened. Well, your synopsis of the Knicks was what most.

Alan Hahn (3:34)

Well, it all started with, let's just get to the playoffs already. And the reason I say that is because the games that are left, there's. There's nothing left to learn. There's nothing left to find out. There's nothing that they're going to do that is going to change our opinion of what they have to do come playoff time. Run the table. All right, let's see them do in the playoffs lose. It'll be. Well, it doesn't. These games don't matter anyway. Who cares? So I don't feel there's anything to be learned. Your pushback was, hey, you want to make sure you get that two seed. Where you finish is important, and I don't disagree with that. But I've learned one thing, Allen. In sports, as crazy as this is, when a team is battling to make the playoffs, they play every game with urgency. You see what the Islanders are doing here. They know every game is so vitally important. Their playoffs have already started. So every game is so vitally important. You never get that same intensity for position as much as it's important, you never get that same intensity for positioning for whatever reason. And so, yeah, the Knicks can have a sense of urgency because they want to finish with a 2C. But overall, as Peter has brilliantly said, I've mentioned it on the air, I Give you credit. Danico laughs Every time I say it, you're still going to get that, playing with your food. Because they know that it's all going to happen come April. And so it's really hard to get overly passionate about whatever happens. All right, they lost. But was that a team that they lose because there's an issue? Did they lose because Charlotte's better? Did they lose because the Knicks are flawed? Or is it difficult for the Knicks to have the attention span necessary every single night when they know they're in and they know that they can't prove themselves until we tip up for real in the postseason?

Don LaGreca (5:29)

Yeah, as I said last night, their magic number to clinch a top six playoff spot, which seems to fit a complete anyway, is one. And had they won the game, they would have clinched top six, they would have clinched a playoff spot. But they know it's a matter of time. Eight games to go, they're not worried about it. But Mitchell Robinson has been kind of the guy that's been calling the team out when he doesn't like the way they played. And, and last night, like again, like the first quarter, more soft three point defense. And by the way, don't be shocked, this is a team that's been lighting it up from three for the last two months. So how do you come into a game and go, oh wow, they shoot lots of threes. I wasn't ready for that. Come on, you had to know that was coming. So they hit six threes in the first quarter and they take control of the game late in the, in the first half where it was a back and forth. They're like the entertaining game for a quarter and and a half and then it just got ridiculous because the Knicks just could not slow them down whatsoever. And so Mitchell Robinson goes into, into the comments of a post about last night's game and says this. He said, don't matter unless we change our approach. We ain't doing blank special. We ain't doing. Oh yeah, because it is. No, there's no punctuation. So forgive me. He said we already did that once this week. Yeah, I know. We don't. Don't matter unless we change our approach. We ain't doing spit special. Keep up that bull spit, myself included. So he's kind of saying like, we're not going to do anything special if this is how we're going to be with these games. And I wonder if Don's right that they just bat the bunny around or they play in these games some of these games and Go like, this team is red hot to beat us because they were tired of their building being taken over by Nick fans. It almost happened last night was 5050 in that building. But Charlotte's, you know, they have a kind of a rejuvenation going on down there. They've got 10 straight sellouts. They have never done that in the new arena since they came back. So this is a big deal, a renaissance. They wanted that game bad. And they were coming at the Knicks to beat them like, like Brooklyn was last week and tried to be. Then almost did it was this like what Detroit does when they see them, I want to beat you. I want to beat your team. And the Knicks are almost like, I'm not, not now. It's not April yet. I'm not doing well. And they didn't want to do it.

Alan Hahn (7:53)

That's because I'm looking at the standings right now. They have eight games left. Yeah, they're. They're two back of Boston. They're two ahead of the Cavaliers in the lost column.

Don LaGreca (8:03)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (8:03)

So, yeah, the positioning is still important, but I think they probably feel like with eight games remaining, they'll be able to. They're going to finish where they're going to finish. And you take a look. You just mentioned the net game. All right, listen, the Nets aren't trying to win, but there's going to be a little bit of fire.

Don LaGreca (8:18)

They wanted that game, though. That's right. That's the game they wanted.

Alan Hahn (8:21)

Yeah. That's a game that they decided to want and they almost won it.

Don LaGreca (8:24)

They were crushed when they lost that game.

Alan Hahn (8:26)

Knicks can't build up enough motivation to care. And it. And you look at an Islander team, Right. The Islanders desperately need to win games. Right. They beat the Dallas Stars. Now, I know the Stars have two. Rantanen's out, Hintz is out. But the Dallas Stars are a really good team.

Peter Rosenberg (8:42)

Beat them.

Alan Hahn (8:43)

Who'd they lose to? The Blackhawks.

Caller 1 (8:45)

Right.

Alan Hahn (8:46)

Because it's a mental game of, hey, well, we're going to beat the Blackhawks because it's. I don't care. Coaches will tell you it's impossible to bring it 100% full blown intensity every single night for 82 games. Can't do it. And so there's going to be nights where you're going to play with your food. There's going to be nights where you're not going to come with the full intensity. And it's going to show and it's really going to show. And the Knicks right now probably realize we're not catching Boston, Cleveland's not going to catch us. And even though the mathematics say it can happen, they know that it's not going to happen. And it's probably very. As crazy as that is and people are paying big money to go to these games and all that that they know they got bigger fish to fry. It's coming up in April.

Don LaGreca (9:30)

Just doesn't make sense.

Alan Hahn (9:31)

Eight games, for God's sakes.

Don LaGreca (9:33)

So it's, that's interesting that you say that because so many Nick fans, this stuff is what worries them. Even during the seven game winning streak, there was so many of those games, it was bad teams. And yet for most of the game, it's kind of like batting the bunny until it's time to win. In the second half, they do it. Even this game, they went down 21. They still got it down to nine. Like there was still a chance. But you know, Charlotte wasn't going to be like these other teams and fall apart. They actually took the game home and won it. But that doesn't give you like a little concern about a killer instinct in this Nick team that's trying to win a championship. You don't see that. You think this is one of those, a veteran team that'll flip the switch when it's time to flip the switch when we get to mid April.

Alan Hahn (10:13)

I'm not telling you to be happy about it. And I'm glad that, you know, Mitchell Robinson is calling him out for it.

Don LaGreca (10:19)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (10:19)

But I just, I think it's a reality that happens in sports where you're, you just, you're trying to create a focus that just, it's, it's, it's eight games left, it's a long season, you've got the playoffs. I just, I'm sure the motivation isn't there. And you're taking on these teams that, hey, listen, Charlotte needs these games more. The Nets, you know, even though they don't care about winning, they're going to care about beating the Knicks. They're embarrassed by this long losing streak against their arch rival. So they decided to bring it.

Don LaGreca (10:47)

Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (10:48)

You know, and also remember, it's important to remember, Don, the Knicks do bring it most nights. I mean, listen, they, they just played a spunky New Orleans team on Tuesday and held on to beat them. They.

Alan Hahn (10:59)

Yeah, because they're good enough.

Peter Rosenberg (11:00)

Supposed to crush, supposed to crush the Wizards. They crushed the Wizards. Yeah. They had to eek by Brooklyn. They crushed Indiana. You know, they are doing, for the most part, they're doing what they're supposed

Alan Hahn (11:10)

to do well at the final result. But it hasn't looked great.

Don LaGreca (11:14)

Yeah, there's been.

Alan Hahn (11:16)

And it does have. It hits a little differently when you have a seven game winning streak, but nobody gives you credit for it because all seven of those teams are bad. And you finally take on a decent team, you lose. So come on, what's going on here?

Don LaGreca (11:27)

You know what's coming Sunday at okc.

Alan Hahn (11:32)

And they will one of the old days that.

Peter Rosenberg (11:35)

Guys, I got some, I got some. I got a big update here.

Alan Hahn (11:39)

Okay, good.

Peter Rosenberg (11:40)

According to Golf.com Martin County Fire and rescue reporting no injuries to anyone in the Tiger woods crash.

Alan Hahn (11:48)

So that car flipped and he didn't get injured. Wow.

Peter Rosenberg (11:51)

So I've seen pictures of it, Don. You can find the pictures on Twitter. The car appears to be basically sitting upside down. It's not like crushed or anything like that, but it's basically flips over completely and it seems like everyone walked away from it. So thank God. And now it'll be what the hell happened here? Again, that's the conversation. And, and was he driving again? You know, you don't want to assume.

Don LaGreca (12:16)

Right, Right.

Peter Rosenberg (12:18)

So. But, but at least it's being reported that Tiger woods and nobody else crash.

Don LaGreca (12:23)

Yeah. Because that last one, the one in L. A, that was not good. And that was, you know, seriously shattered.

Peter Rosenberg (12:28)

Like.

Alan Hahn (12:29)

Yeah, I'm. I'm not an expert on aerodynamics or automobiles for that matter, but I don't think you flip unless you're moving at a pretty high velocity. I don't know what highway it was on or whatever, but that's not a little fender bender going down that.

Peter Rosenberg (12:45)

It looks like if you flip over,

Alan Hahn (12:48)

you're moving pretty good.

Don LaGreca (12:49)

Yeah, it.

Peter Rosenberg (12:49)

From what I can see in this picture, it looks like a two lane road, but like a sort of big two lane road. I'm really getting into speculation here, but I would guess like a 25 to 35 mile an hour kind of street. But. Yeah, that means, you know, people on those streets sometimes go 50.

Don LaGreca (13:07)

Yeah. And if you swerve at the last second, that can lead to a rollover. So.

Peter Rosenberg (13:12)

And it's an suv.

Alan Hahn (13:13)

Yeah, assuming. But it's a pretty safe assumption he wore a seatbelt because if he didn't have a seatbelt in that car flipped over upside down. He's, he's not walking away from that.

Don LaGreca (13:21)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (13:22)

Without an injury.

Don LaGreca (13:23)

He's not. All right, we'll keep, we'll keep updating on. I know they said five o', clock, the local police were going to have a statement and everything like that. So we'll see what happens when it comes to that. But again, 800 now, but nine, three, seven, seven, six. Talking about the Knicks, a seven game winning streak comes to an end last night in Charlotte. A real punchy young Charlotte team that I think they play the way Mike Brown wanted the Knicks to play. And then he had to back off that because it's just it wasn't received well from, especially from guys like Carl Anthony Towns. And after the game like Josh Hart talked about the way they played, the pace they played, we couldn't play at that pace. And a lot of frustration out of that Nick team because of it. And now it makes me wonder. Charlotte knows who they are, how they want to play. They figured it out at some point. It's working for them. They're going with it. It's the other thing. If you don't really know what your identity is. Like last year they had Tom Thibodeau. He was there for five years. They knew who they were, they knew what they were, they knew their identity. Is that part of it too? Do they just not know what their identity is? What are we? Are we a defense first team? Are we a run and gun team? Are we a half court team? Are we a three point shooting team? It seems like on a given night they're one of the above, but not something consistently enough. Could that be part of the problem with this Knick team when they get to the playoffs is maybe in close, tough games they don't know who they are.

Alan Hahn (14:39)

Well, how do you not know 74 games into the season?

Don LaGreca (14:42)

I agree, I agree.

Alan Hahn (14:46)

And if you don't know by now, when are you ever going to know?

Don LaGreca (14:49)

Well, I don't think this year but here it doesn't feel like there's too many guys on this team. Like again, Towns last night had three rebounds. Three. The guy second in the league in rebounding played less than 22 minutes because he didn't really wasn't effective. And it's like, where are you tonight? You should dominate this game. Their tallest players, 6, 8. And yet he had three rebounds. And it's got to a point where it's like Mike Brown didn't put him back in the game in the fourth quarter because it's just I'm not getting anything out of you that doesn't make sense. Then there's other games where Mikhail Bridges is disappearing. And it just feels like there's pieces on this team that throughout a season the other players, especially guys like Hart and Brunson are sticking up for guys on this team. And the latest has been Josh Hart sticking up for Mikhail Bridges. We talked about it yesterday. Stephen A was going after Bridges. He was blaming Brunson for giving up all the picks to get Bridges. And then Hart shot back and told Stephen A that he's a part time fan and he should just shut up and listen to Stephen A's response now to Josh Hart because you know he loves this. Oh, you got my attention now. Stephen A said and he went right after Josh Hart.

Stephen A. Smith (15:57)

Listen, number one, I don't need to know you, I don't need to talk to you. I get paid to talk about you. They want to ignore the fact that I've been covering the NBA for over 30 years. Okay, the last time the New York Knicks won A championship was 24 years or 22 years before Josh Hart was born. Okay, this is what the kind of stuff that I'm talking about. When the last time the New York Knicks were in the NBA finals, Josh Hart was four, four years old. So again I take no offense to what you said. You're absolutely entitled to clap back and I don't take it personal at all. But it don't make you right.

Don LaGreca (16:35)

And he kept going. But that's like I think Stephen A's loving this right now. And if you're the Knicks, you don't want any part of this.

Alan Hahn (16:44)

Well, how do you win?

Don LaGreca (16:45)

You don't.

Alan Hahn (16:46)

Stephen wins because it's going to get a lot of attention on him.

Don LaGreca (16:50)

Content first take.

Alan Hahn (16:52)

That's why these athletes have to be careful, man. Because. But who's benefit from it?

Peter Rosenberg (16:57)

Well, I'll tell you this, there's a. If this means anything to you or not, but like there's a barstool article saying Josh Hart solidified himself as a Knicks legend after calling out Stephen A. Smith for being a part time fan and telling him to shut the hell up. Like there are, there are certain, there's going to be a certain segment of Knicks fans who are like thank God, I'm tired of Stephen A. I'm tired of him. You know, whatever they think of him like showing up when he wants to be a fan. But they don't understand that the gig for Stephen is talking about the issues that matter with edge. But the team he prefers is the Knicks. That's who he likes to get into. They don't get the dynamic. So a lot of fans resent him. And I could see there being people that kind of champion Josh Hart for pushing back against Stephen A.

Alan Hahn (17:41)

But how are those people going to Respond. If the Knicks get bounced in the first round and Hart plays terribly, then all of a sudden, well, that's always

Don LaGreca (17:47)

the risk, being a player really more about Bridges. And it's the two Villanova guys were. That are being called out as part of it. But it's. This is strictly about Mikhail Bridges.

Peter Rosenberg (17:58)

But, you know, but now it's not.

Alan Hahn (18:02)

I struggled. Yeah, but see that. But it's all. It's about the Knicks and, And now all the attention's on the Knicks, which it is anyway. So I'm not to say that Stephen A. Is going to win, fans, but you know, ultimately the winner and loser is going to be determined on the court. And the more the Knicks win, the worse Stephen A. Is going to look. But listen, we've always said in talk radio, in sports media, you know, betting against the Knicks, who haven't won since 1973 is a pretty fair bet, right? So if you're going to go on that limb and you know, at the end of the day, if the Knicks don't win, you win. It puts Stephen in a pretty good position. But what this also comes down to, and I had to deal with this all those years doing the Rangers and doing the jets when I was known as a Giant fan and a Devil fan and all that, as much as we try, guys, it's so hard to be at that high profile a position to cover a sport in general and still maintain your fandom. It's really hard to do because Josh Hart's looking at it and go, well, you're a Knick fan. What are you killing us for? Yeah, and I guess that's a fair point. Even though fans do kill their own team. It's just like, I thought you were on our side. He's not supposed to be on a side like Greeny makes it work with the jets, right? But there's still that awkwardness of, hey, you've got to cover the NFL and you're doing the draft and then people know that you're a fan and so you say things. Are you saying it as an analyst? Are you saying it as a talk show host? Are you saying it as a fan? It's really difficult to do both, man. It is.

Don LaGreca (19:34)

You can't. And a great example is two weeks ago on get up, when I was asked point blank about whether or not the Celtics are now the team to beat with Tatum back and all that stuff. And I just said, yeah. I said, no, no, the east goes through Boston. And I said that with my chest. And I believe it. I Still believe it. Because until otherwise, they are, to me, the most experienced team when it comes to the two stars and the head coach. They have a championship on their finger, and they have played at a high level all season. Even without Tatum, they have one of the best defense. Like, I gave all the reasons why. And everybody, all the Nick accounts, all of them posted it and said, we lost Alan calling me out. They're adding Nick players saying, you got to talk to your guy. As if, like, I'm. It's blasphemy, what I'm saying. Just because my other job happens to be on MSG Networks on Nick broadcast. As if now I'm just supposed to just carry the mail and. And pretend like everything's just, oh, no, no, it's through New York. And then even Iman Shumpert, who was a former Knick, looked at me and he's like, I don't. I don't like you saying that because, you know, I still think it's the Knicks. And I said, great, make the case. But I have to. I make the case. If I believed it was the Knicks, I would pound the table and say, I think it's the Knicks. But I've watched them close enough to know that. And I've watched the Celtics very closely, as well, as much as you can, because I look at them as the biggest threat. And I have. I have said until otherwise, until I see otherwise, I just think it's Boston. Can they get past him? Of course they can, but they have to get past them. And that's the point I make. But people take it so personal. Stephen A. What he's doing is part of the job. It's part of the job. And that's what you do, is you're creating content. Certainly you are. You're making points as well. But if somebody's coming at you, you. You have to go back and make sure that they understand that what I'm saying, you got to prove me wrong. And that's what to see the Knicks do.

Peter Rosenberg (21:36)

Now, guys, I do have something very important before we get to fart alert Friday here in just a moment. Monday Night Raw is going to be at MSG on Monday, guys. Just a couple of weeks ahead of WrestleMania to you and me. That's this coming Monday, March 30th. How about this? I have procured tickets for our listeners.

Alan Hahn (21:55)

There you go.

Peter Rosenberg (21:56)

On the ESPN New York app. Okay? Tickets are at espnnewyork.com or in the app. Just go to the contest tile, submit your entry. And we are giving a pair of tickets away to our listeners this Monday night at the Garden for raw.

Don Hahn (22:13)

What?

Peter Rosenberg (22:14)

Yeah, I said it. I'm gonna have some NXT tickets as well, but we're doing that Monday.

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Peter Rosenberg (24:37)

I didn't listen to anything you Just

Don Hahn (24:38)

said, catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcast. Did you or someone you know participate in fraudulent fan behavior?

Peter Rosenberg (24:54)

I'm a fraud with a capital F.

Don Hahn (24:55)

Is your friend a fraud?

Peter Rosenberg (24:57)

I have been a complete and utter fraud.

Don Hahn (24:59)

Are you a fraud?

Don LaGreca (25:01)

What is fraud?

Don Hahn (25:02)

Let's ask Dom McGregor. Screw.

Peter Rosenberg (25:05)

Go scratch yourself.

Don Hahn (25:06)

Brought to you by D' Agostino Law.

Peter Rosenberg (25:10)

Go scratch yourself is great. That's tremendous.

Don LaGreca (25:16)

That's a saying from the past, right, Donnie? That's a. Oh, yeah. I had a neighbor say. He wouldn't even say go scratch yourself. He would always go scratch.

Peter Rosenberg (25:24)

But Alan, Alan, that's the point I'm making.

Don LaGreca (25:26)

Oh.

Peter Rosenberg (25:27)

The line is definitely go scratch.

Don LaGreca (25:29)

Well, but it's. It's shortened version of go scratch yourself, which is, of course, scratch. Scratch is replacing another word.

Peter Rosenberg (25:35)

Got it. I've only heard it is go scratch.

Don LaGreca (25:38)

Oh, no, I've heard the ghost scratch. Go scratch yourself. Like I've heard that.

Peter Rosenberg (25:42)

I. I only know that from Don and I thoroughly enjoy it.

Don LaGreca (25:46)

We had very friendly neighbors and.

Peter Rosenberg (25:48)

Sounds like colorful. Colorful neighbors, it seems.

Don LaGreca (25:51)

Oh, very colorful.

Peter Rosenberg (25:52)

Welcome to fraud alert Friday. Brought you people. Brought to you by Dagostino law.

Don LaGreca (26:01)

Daggerstino. Dagostino. There it is.

Caller 1 (26:04)

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Peter Rosenberg (26:05)

You know, I was gonna wait for that one.

Don LaGreca (26:06)

I can't do it as well as he does.

Peter Rosenberg (26:09)

No, he's very good at it. That's why he sings his own theme song.

Don LaGreca (26:12)

Why wouldn't.

Peter Rosenberg (26:14)

All right, guys.

Alan Hahn (26:15)

Better lawyer and

Peter Rosenberg (26:18)

that's right, singing and lawyer.

Don LaGreca (26:20)

Really good at Lawrence.

Peter Rosenberg (26:21)

And I'm all out of lawyering, so it's time for me to sing. All right, here we go. This comes from a guy I've heard from and supported a lot of my stuff over the years. Gamecube that dude. I'm a big fan. Lovely guy from Detroit.

Alan Hahn (26:34)

Okay.

Peter Rosenberg (26:35)

He says, what up, doe? Pete and Allen. He's from Detroit. That's the thing they say. There's what up, though. What up though? Pete and Allen. Good afternoon, Judge legrecker. I am a die hard Detroit Lions fan. However, I wasn't always. I'm 35 years old. My parents are military, so we moved around a lot. Mom from San Diego, dad originally from Pittsburgh. Since I can remember my first sports moments. Approximately five years old, my dad has been a die hard cowboys fan. Why Cowboys ask you? Well, my grandmother. This is interesting. My grandmother dated Tony Dorset's older brother in high school. So my dad's family followed his career and became cowboys fans. So born into cowboy fandom. Then we moved to Detroit in 96 97. I caught the tail end of Barry Sanders. But to be fair, equally like Emmett Smith, still a Cowboys fan. Lions started growing. We move in 99 overseas, then come back to Detroit in O.2 12 years old, I start really getting into football and start becoming a Lions fan. Watching Joey Harrington and Herman Moore. You can hit strange polls if you want, but don't worry about it. We stunk, but I still enjoyed watching the local team. My dad took me to my first Lions game where fans had a four fire Matt Millen paper bag over their head during the game. Since then I've been locked in as a Lions fan. As my main team. However, I would still check in on Cowboys scores and as long as they weren't facing the Lions, I would root for them until about the second year of Dez Bryant's career. So I would say 09, 10. I finally let go of the Cowboys completely. Am I a fraud?

Alan Hahn (28:23)

I didn't bring the gavel with me. I'm sorry.

Peter Rosenberg (28:25)

There you go. They got you.

Don LaGreca (28:26)

What were you ever.

Peter Rosenberg (28:28)

I don't know what he was doing.

Alan Hahn (28:31)

Bottle. He was young, pre 12. A lot of hopping around the country seems like a legitimate reason for his parents to be Cowboy fans. But as he got older, more mature, started learning football more, he eventually got to a place where it was all about the Lions. He never rooted for the Cowboys over the Lions. There was that separation. I am going to say no. Fraud.

Peter Rosenberg (29:01)

Wow. I love this for gamecube.

Stephen A. Smith (29:03)

That dude.

Alan Hahn (29:06)

I love the people that. Detroit.

Don LaGreca (29:08)

Detroit.

Peter Rosenberg (29:09)

Yeah. And you know, listen, it'll be one thing. It's a lot easier to call someone fraud if the Lions have been raised rattle rattling off championships the last day.

Alan Hahn (29:17)

Exactly. You know, so you told me.

Peter Rosenberg (29:20)

You know, it's nice that they compete now, but.

Alan Hahn (29:22)

But then Patrick Mahomes joined Kansas City and you know, it's a little.

Peter Rosenberg (29:25)

Yeah, exactly.

Don LaGreca (29:26)

That's the one, right? That's the one.

Peter Rosenberg (29:28)

All right. Hi guys. Huge fan of the show.

Alan Hahn (29:30)

Hi guys.

Peter Rosenberg (29:32)

Been listening every day since Peter joined the old show back in 2015. Well, you sound like a great guy. My fraud question is about my older brother Anthony, who's truly a great guy. My brother is three years older than me and is a die hard New York sports fan. He loves the Mets, Islanders, Knicks, jets and Red Bulls.

Don LaGreca (29:55)

He's got a few. Right.

Peter Rosenberg (29:57)

However, when we were kids, I vividly remember him being a huge Rangers fan. He even recorded game six of the Stanley cup finals back in 94 on VHS. In 94. That would have made him 10 years old. In his teenage years, for some reason, unbeknownst to me, he became a huge Colorado Avalanche fan. He decorated his room with posters of Joe Sakic and Peter Forsberg. He wore Avalanche jerseys and even had a big Avalanche beanbag chair in his room. So 90s of him.

Don LaGreca (30:27)

Yes.

Peter Rosenberg (30:28)

In his adulthood, my brother, who has lived on Long island his whole life, became a die hard Islander, Sam. He watches games on tv, goes to tons of home games every season. Where's Islanders jerseys? He's truly made the Islanders hockey team. He's 100% Islanders. Now that my brother's in his 40s and has his NY sports teams, none of whom have won a title since he was 2 years old, does this make him a fraud for changing hockey teams during his earlier youthful days? Thank you for your decision, honorable judge Ladon James Nick in Rhode Island.

Don LaGreca (31:01)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (31:01)

Here we go. All right.

Peter Rosenberg (31:03)

I love this show.

Don LaGreca (31:06)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (31:07)

He's a fraud. Oh, this was.

Don LaGreca (31:10)

This was.

Alan Hahn (31:11)

Listen, he was finding himself. I get it. I understand. And he didn't exactly, no offense, Alan, you know, hop on a bandwagon with the New York Islanders. He was feeling his way. He was sowing his oats, if you will, as he was sowing his sports oats. Little Rangers, little Avalanche. And I'm sure he jumped right on the Avalanche. You know, the Patrick Wa. Jo.

Peter Rosenberg (31:33)

That's what I was imagining,

Don LaGreca (31:36)

like when they first came out.

Alan Hahn (31:37)

No, no. Yeah, they were new firm it to Zoa. Going around Danae. It's an awful lot.

Peter Rosenberg (31:42)

Yeah, I'm not a fan.

Don LaGreca (31:43)

Spectacular.

Alan Hahn (31:44)

It's one of them.

Don LaGreca (31:45)

You know, get your mind out of the gutter.

Alan Hahn (31:47)

Actually, you know what? I think they should do that Big foot on the shoulder. That should be the logo, not the, you know.

Don LaGreca (31:53)

All right.

Alan Hahn (31:54)

You know, try and do a.

Don LaGreca (31:55)

That's the same thing.

Alan Hahn (31:56)

Consummate a marriage.

Don LaGreca (31:57)

That's how I feel about the. The stupid fisherman that, you know, it's a tribute to. To Stan Fischler, but really, it should be that. The lighthouse that's on the shoulder, that should have been the logo. All right, well, that's another argument.

Alan Hahn (32:10)

The Avalanche jerseys are gross.

Don LaGreca (32:12)

They're not gross. The colors are spectacular. But moving on.

Alan Hahn (32:14)

Well, that's, you know, the colors are spectacular, but again.

Don LaGreca (32:18)

All right, it's.

Alan Hahn (32:20)

It's the little swimmers trying to find the egg.

Peter Rosenberg (32:22)

Okay, okay. The point is. Keep going.

Alan Hahn (32:25)

The point is, is that he eventually found. And I'm sure he's a diehard Islander fan, but then he's going to tell the stories how he taped game Six. I don't know why he wouldn't, you know, tape, you know, game seven or whatever, but you know, Rangers, Avalanche. Stop yourself. Okay, how are you going to have that conversation with diehard Islander fans that you. This is your third team.

Don LaGreca (32:46)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (32:47)

Good guy, great brother, and maybe a really cool Islander fan, but a fraud.

Peter Rosenberg (32:57)

You know what? I appreciate, Don, the details. It made sense. You broke it down. We have ourselves a fraud.

Don LaGreca (33:03)

Fraud.

Peter Rosenberg (33:05)

All right, let's continue on important fraud Friday precedent question. Interesting.

Don LaGreca (33:12)

Press it.

Peter Rosenberg (33:13)

Hi, guys. I have a fraud Friday question. Eating it. Need an official ruling. Hey, guys, Don has always said you need to declare your fandom by around 8 or 8 years old.

Alan Hahn (33:24)

Yes.

Peter Rosenberg (33:25)

Or you're a fraud. Fair enough. But what happens when you're an adult getting into a new sport? For context, I have teams in most major sports that I'm fully loyal to. Fandoms I inherited from dad, Grandpa. But being the non frauds that they are, they swore off hockey completely when the Hartford Whalers were taken from Connecticut. So I never grew up with a team or any real connection to the sport. Fast forward to now. Over the past few years, I'm starting to get into hockey partly from a co worker and partly from listening to this show. Being from Connecticut, I don't really have a natural team to latch onto. So I've spent a few seasons following different teams, players and storylines to find one that sticks. So here's my question. How long am I allowed to feel it out before I'm officially labeled a fraud? Is there a grace period for new sports fandom or am I already on thin ice for not committing yet? Would love to hear the ruling. Drew in Connecticut, great question.

Alan Hahn (34:18)

Phenomenal question. First of all, no fraud. Because I say eight for like, my son who's like, oh, I like the Yankees and the Mets. No, you got to declare. But if he tells me he's not sure. All right, just, you gotta. You gotta make some sort of a commitment to it. You just can't root for both teams forever. If he decides, I'm not gonna follow baseball, but if you're not following hockey, you weren't into it, you can join at any time. And once you decide to join, you, you're doing the right thing. Let me check it out. Let me see if something hits. So I say there's no time limit for that because at some point, if nothing hits, then you're probably not that in love with the sport and you're probably not going to be a die hard fan of it. So it's not really that big of a deal. But he's taking his time. And at some point, one of these teams, one of these storylines, one of these players is going to hit. And once it happens and you pick a team, then that's your team forever. If you pick a team and then two years later, I don't like that they're going to try another one, then you're a fraud. So I don't think there's any time limit. Wait for something to hit. It's like trying to find your wife. You don't have to be married by 25 or 30. I was 37. Alan was 12. It's different. So I say no fraud.

Peter Rosenberg (35:34)

12. Wow. There you have it.

Alan Hahn (35:36)

You were 12, but you were a lot closer to 12 than 37.

Don LaGreca (35:39)

D'. Agostino. I know. That's how rounding works.

Peter Rosenberg (35:45)

Here's. Here's one Very appropriate.

Don LaGreca (35:47)

Emotionally, I was 12, so he's not wrong.

Peter Rosenberg (35:50)

Here's a very appropriate one from today.

Alan Hahn (35:53)

Okay.

Peter Rosenberg (35:54)

Dear Judge Lagreca, I'd like to bring the entire show to the stand for throwing Friday.

Don LaGreca (35:59)

What?

Peter Rosenberg (36:00)

Don is a big proponent of the rule you had to go to college to root for that college. Yet every day during March Madness, the show keeps pushing St. John's as this great local story that all the listeners should care about. The only problem is, biggest part of your listeners Never went to St. John's and if we're going to play the local program card, why isn't UConn getting the same treatment? It's a tri state team, and in Connecticut, UConn is basically their professional franchise at that point. The physical campus location argument doesn't even hold up. Based on the evidence, I asked the court to find the show guilty of fraudulence. Thank you, your honor.

Alan Hahn (36:35)

Wait a minute. That's ridiculous. Our job is to cover sports. It's a New York sports team. But, like, so if the Islanders make a run to the Stanley cup, only Allen can talk about them because I'm in the devil guy, and Peter's a penguin guy.

Peter Rosenberg (36:47)

That, like, that's ridiculous.

Alan Hahn (36:49)

Matter of fact, it's so ignorant, I'm surprised you read it.

Don LaGreca (36:51)

Yeah, you're. You're.

Alan Hahn (36:53)

We're all gonna catch stupid from that email.

Don LaGreca (36:56)

I already did. What's the radio Home of St. John's by the way?

Peter Rosenberg (36:59)

It's here.

Alan Hahn (37:00)

That'd be in New york.

Caller 1 (37:01)

Okay.

Don LaGreca (37:03)

At 650 on 1050.

Peter Rosenberg (37:04)

Right here.

Don LaGreca (37:05)

Right here.

Alan Hahn (37:06)

But I. Based on their fandom, I think they're.

Peter Rosenberg (37:10)

I think it's not that we're covering it it's that he's saying that we sort of suggest that, like, the local audience is into it. But why would they really be into it if none of them went to St. John's because you know what?

Alan Hahn (37:22)

I like when frauds listen, the more people the better. Doesn't make you a bad person. But you know what? We've got to service the fraud as well.

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Don LaGreca (40:55)

Well, I'll tell you what. We're playing it for Stephanie.

Alan Hahn (40:59)

Well, because I got it for you.

Don LaGreca (41:01)

I got a text last night during the game. It was like the SOS Every now and then your significant other, like, she. You know, they send out the S.O.S. she's like, are you off tomorrow night? I said, yeah. She's like, I'm craving a margarita. That's code, boys. That's all I'm gonna say. It's coke. Okay. Stephanie going out.

Peter Rosenberg (41:24)

Is it co. Is it code?

Don LaGreca (41:25)

Get some margaritas tonight.

Peter Rosenberg (41:28)

I. I feel like the code is more. I can't. I can't deal with our children anymore. Which code is this? Which code? Or is it multiple codes?

Don LaGreca (41:34)

No. What do you mean? Loves the kids. Just hasn't. She hasn't had enough Alan lately. Been nice a lot. So code.

Peter Rosenberg (41:44)

Code for you is margarita, right?

Don LaGreca (41:47)

It is in this instance.

Peter Rosenberg (41:48)

It's interesting.

Alan Hahn (41:50)

Listen, I need some Alan, but I can't do it sober.

Peter Rosenberg (41:54)

Yeah, I want to spend time with you can. I need it to be palatable.

Don LaGreca (41:58)

That could be true, too. That's all right. Beggars can't be choosers.

Alan Hahn (42:05)

You know, like.

Don LaGreca (42:05)

Like whatever it takes. So, yeah, we'll get some margaritas. We'll see if something, you know, see what happens. Why am I trashed? Why me?

Alan Hahn (42:14)

So sometimes. Sometimes you close with, you know, you know, seven, eight, nine in the order coming up in the ninth.

Don LaGreca (42:20)

Right.

Alan Hahn (42:20)

So it's nothing wrong with that.

Don LaGreca (42:22)

Look, it saves a save. She need to go to the bullpen. I'm ready to go. Ready to go. Hey, let's do a game time. Brought to you by Telemardu Irish Whiskey because when it's game time.

Peter Rosenberg (42:32)

Hey,

Don LaGreca (42:38)

I like that.

Peter Rosenberg (42:39)

It's totally time.

Alan Hahn (42:40)

Sure is.

Don LaGreca (42:41)

Right now in the top of the second, Yankees and Giants scoreless. But Cam Schlitler, by the way, a 10 pitch inning got through it. And a little abs on the final strike out of the inning because Austin Wells said no, no, no, that's a strike, that's not a ball. And they show it. And the ball literally just cut in half right on the corner. Beautiful pitch. So well done for Chisholm. I mean not Chisholm, he just got himself a base hit. That's why I'm thinking of him. But Schlitler coming out of the gate. So that's going on literally right now. Tonight the Rangers host the Blackhawks with coverage immediately following us on 880 at. At 7. Thought we were 6:30.

Alan Hahn (43:22)

No, we are 6:30.

Don LaGreca (43:24)

Yeah, it says it's.

Peter Rosenberg (43:25)

That's right.

Don LaGreca (43:25)

St. John's faces Duke as we've been talking about in this coverage at 6:50 on 10:50am so we will have coverage of that. I know that everybody knows this but St. John's we are the home of St. John's basketball Yankees, Giants in San Francisco. I mentioned to you already that's going on right now. Again, scoreless in the second inning and the Nets they take on the lakers out in LA at 1030 Tullamore du the original triple distilled, triple blended, triple cast matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Telemardu or try the new Tulla Mardu honey during today's action glasses up to enjoying Tullamore Dew responsibly. Scott in Nanuet has two fraud behaviors that he would like to bring up to you. Donnie.

Alan Hahn (44:08)

Go for it Scott.

Caller 1 (44:09)

Yes. So here's the first one has to do with my actual fandom of a team. I'm a Pittsburgh Pirate fan, been for in my entire life, 63 years. Right now we have an owner, Bob Nutting who likes to throw nickels around like their manhole covers. He's a horrible owner. It's provable fact. Am I a fraud for wanting to have them lose every single game so that Bob Nutting actually sells to someone who cares?

Alan Hahn (44:34)

Yes, because there's no chance of that. I mean because if he hasn't sold by now. Plus he did spend some money during the off season, right? He got, well, nice players, Lao. And they're predicting. People are predicting to make the playoffs. You see, this is the conundrum you're in, right? You hate the owner. He doesn't spend money, but he decided to spend some money during the off season. They're predicted to make the playoffs. So what are you going to do? What if they put.

Caller 1 (44:57)

I haven't predicted them to make the playoffs.

Alan Hahn (45:01)

So you're going to deprive yourself of a Pirate playoff run because you want to. This Fugazi have them go, oh, 162 and the owner is going to decide to sell?

Caller 1 (45:12)

Well, I'm just saying because, you know, he's. He's. He's a total idiot and you know, and he's.

Don LaGreca (45:18)

Anyways, I get it, Scott, but Scott's in a tough spot because, Don, you have given a pass if it's a bad owner, right?

Alan Hahn (45:28)

Well, but. But you can't start rooting for another team then if you want to give up on.

Don LaGreca (45:34)

Hasn't said that he wants it.

Alan Hahn (45:35)

Okay, well, then I be. I just. First of all, you wouldn't be a fraud. All right, that answers that question. I just don't buy that if this Pirate team puts together a nice season, goes to the playoffs, you're going to be rooting against them.

Caller 1 (45:48)

Well, let's just say that they're not going to the playoffs. I'll. We can timestamp it. All right. Second, I love your show. I listen to it every day. I listen four hours, three hours, however many hours it is. That said, there's one part of the show I just cannot abide by, and that's Drop Madness. I do not understand it. I don't get it. I find it to be actually rather unlistenable. So am I a fraud? Turning off the radio during Drop Madness and coming back later?

Alan Hahn (46:17)

Well, not everything's for everybody, but it's just a drop. But, you know, we play drops during the show. Some drops are good. And if you don't want to vote, you don't have to vote. It's just one segment.

Don LaGreca (46:27)

Wow.

Alan Hahn (46:27)

Can't all be winners for everybody. I mean.

Don LaGreca (46:29)

So is he still there, people? No, he hung. I didn't hang up on him, so I think he hung up. But do other people feel this way? Are they not as into the drop thing as. As we think and they're just staying quiet about it? Or is this just an outline?

Peter Rosenberg (46:45)

Just like.

Don LaGreca (46:45)

I don't get the humor because I think. I think anybody that follows the show. And he said he's an avid listener, you understand that drops are part of it. Some of them are really funny. And we want to see which is the best drop of the year. And we come up with that because it is March Madness and it's a playoff that. If I have to explain it, then that's.

Peter Rosenberg (47:04)

I was gonna say, I don't even like what you're doing right now.

Don LaGreca (47:07)

You know what I mean? I'm really simplifying it, but that's.

Peter Rosenberg (47:08)

Yeah, I don't even think that's. He said he didn't get it. Well, I guess you're in or you're out.

Alan Hahn (47:13)

Listen, not everybody's gonna get everything that we do. And all it ends up amounting to is the end of the first segment running down the matchups.

Don LaGreca (47:23)

It's like five.

Alan Hahn (47:24)

And then at the end of the. At the end of, like today, because we're off at 6:30. At the end of the show, we tell you who won.

Peter Rosenberg (47:28)

Can I. Can I take.

Alan Hahn (47:29)

Not that crazy.

Peter Rosenberg (47:31)

I'm gonna say something right now, Don and I. Maybe I shouldn't take it to the air, but are we authentic or are we not? You know, who are people?

Alan Hahn (47:42)

If we're anything, we're authentic.

Peter Rosenberg (47:43)

Looking at the vote total that I see on Twitter right now, like, unless something's broken with the machine, I'd be ready to stop drop madness after today.

Alan Hahn (47:51)

So I'm really good. I don't know.

Peter Rosenberg (47:54)

No. Are you looking?

Don LaGreca (47:56)

No.

Peter Rosenberg (47:56)

Go look, Don.

Alan Hahn (47:57)

No, I look. I looked. When I looked, it was like 35 votes.

Peter Rosenberg (48:02)

I've never seen it. Like, you know what? I guess the caller's right. I think. I think maybe we've.

Don LaGreca (48:08)

It's not getting to the algorithm or people have had their fill of job madness.

Peter Rosenberg (48:13)

I can't blame the algorithm. I have to take the ownership of it. That people are telling us they're done. And maybe we're just the yo yos who still think it's funny, but. Or people like to hear it and don't care about voting.

Don LaGreca (48:25)

Or maybe they just like things like a couch cast because the NFL draft's coming up.

Peter Rosenberg (48:30)

That's right. Go ahead.

Don LaGreca (48:32)

That's less than a month now to you and me. And New York, as we know, is on the clock. The jets pick second and 16th. What are they going to do with that 16th pick? That's been a debate. Giants pick fifth. What are they going to do? Well, Rick DiPietro, a Jets fan and Dave Rothenberg, a noted Giants fan. They're going to be breaking it all down live. You don't want to miss it. Join ESPN New York's Couchcast. Your second screen for the NFL draft. Real time reactions, instant takes, everything New York fans care about. You can watch along, react with us and don't miss a single moment. Because you know Dave, you never know. He could just strip naked and run out of the room if he doesn't like Giants did. We've seen him do this before. ESPN New York's Couchcast on draft night, April 23, 8pm sharp. And it's presented, of course, by Calandra's Bakery, which Peter knows intimately. Don't you?

Peter Rosenberg (49:21)

Well, I think we all do, I would say. Well, you just.

Don LaGreca (49:24)

I mean, yesterday, you.

Peter Rosenberg (49:25)

I got to know the full two yesterday. Well, I didn't say that either. I just said it was a hard day for you.

Don LaGreca (49:30)

It's just that you couldn't say no.

Peter Rosenberg (49:33)

I wish that I didn't have any. Yesterday was the point and I wasn't able to resist. That was the problem.

Don LaGreca (49:40)

And that's generally what happens when Calandras comes around.

Peter Rosenberg (49:43)

That's. That's what I meant. I meant it more of a compliment to Calandra's than an indictment of my governedness.

Don Hahn (49:51)

Okay, thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

Don LaGreca (49:56)

I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know it's good.

Don Hahn (49:58)

Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

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