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Michael Kay
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Peter Rosenberg
Fast approaching 4:03 in the big city. It's hot, it's humid. Yankees have a 2 nothing lead on the Blue Jays in game two of their four game set. It's Canada Day so they're playing in the afternoon. Mets have their game with coverage beginning at 6:30 against the Brewers. Lots of people in panic about that. But this LeBron James thing is just so interesting. And if you're just joining us, we don't have any new information in the sense that what we had yesterday. It's just that, you know, Allen did some calls and it does seem like it might be more of a reality than you think. And the reason for that, outside of different information here or there, is with LeBron James opting in to that contract in Los Angeles, it's either I'm going to stay in Los Angeles and I want to see this team compete for a championship, which is going to be hard because the west is just so many. San Antonio is going to be better. You certainly know the Thunder aren't going anywhere. There's a lot of really good teams out west, very, very difficult to navigate through. So even if the Lakers make the necessary adjustments to try to compete, they could get bounced in the second round, get bounced in the first round, who knows where. Going to the Knicks, the hype around that, the fact that the east is so wide open and LeBron wanting to massage his legacy to the point where, hey, four championships with four different teams, I mean who's ever done that in sports? And to be able to slay the dragon in New York, it would be intoxicating. It was intoxicating to Mark Messier, Hey, I can go to New York, win a championship now. Messier stayed here a couple of years before he won, and he stayed for a long time after. LeBron could be one and done. But having not won a championship since 1973, even if you're being used for LeBron James legacy, I could think of worse ways of being used, honestly. So that's the negative byproduct that I talked about yesterday. It's a real thing, but at the same time is like, how do you not think about it, get excited about it, and boy, this town will just be nuts. The Knicks would be the story every time they played at home. Every time they played at home. And you know how hard that is to do in New York. You know, they're going to start the season with possibly the Mets and Yankees in the playoffs, right? And it would probably take them making it to the World series to move LeBron and the Knicks to the back burner. Maybe football, right? You're going to end. Let's say the Giants and Jets get off to good starts. It's still going to be, hey, the Knicks, Knicks are at the Garden tonight, you know, or the Knicks are playing, you're good. You're going to be watching Giant Jet games while Knick games going on and hearing outbursts in the stands because something happened in the Nick game like it's going to be. If it were to happen, it would be pretty, pretty unreal.
Alan Hahn
It would be. I mean, you think about the last team in New York that had that kind of appeal. Would it be, I don't know, last time Jeter and the Yankees, like that group, the core four, was still together and they just, they just, they just had a following.
Peter Rosenberg
That's the. But that's the conversation we always had about the Knicks. The Knicks don't have a rival in town because the Nets just don't have the fan base. So even when the Yankees, with a traveling circus, they were with 114 wins in the regular season, in 98, winning three consecutive titles. There are a bunch of Met fans in New York that didn't care, right? A pretty significant. Even if you say it's 60, 40, 65, 35, it's still a pretty significant percentage of New York. That's like, yawn, don't care, I'm a Met fan. Or it's such a cosmopolitan town that people lining up to get in the Lincoln center saying, what's baseball?
Alan Hahn
Don't even know what it is. Don't even care about sports.
Peter Rosenberg
But that aside, is that everybody. The Giants are the football team in New York, but the jets have a huge following. Same with the hockey. The Rangers are it. But there's. When you have two other hockey teams plus, how many people don't care about hockey brings it down. But when you can, how many people care about basketball? And the Knicks, where It's probably like 95, 5 as far as, like, dominance in the fan base is concerned. You throw LeBron James in the mix, you throw a title run in the mix. I don't know if you can compare it to anything this town has ever went through, unless you're going to go back to when it was only the Giants who played in New York, when it was only the Knicks that played in New York.
Alan Hahn
There were less people, less. Less attention. A lot of stuff. Like, you know, the 73, the last championship, the 73 team. For all these people that are like, you know, I want it organically, right? I want to build it organically. That 73 team. You think about the pieces that they added to that team, which included Earl the Pearl, which at the time when the Knicks made the trade, which was the year before when they traded for Monroe. And Earl Monroe is one of my favorite people in the world. But when they traded for him, the story goes that Knick fans didn't want it. He was a rival, played for the Bullets, Baltimore, they didn't like him.
Peter Rosenberg
I get it.
Alan Hahn
Him and Clyde were rivals, so they didn't want that trade to happen. But he was available in the Knicks at the time. Said, we can't like this guy's. He's insane. He's one of the best guards in the league. And they. Well, how are you going to play him and Clyde together? Well, you're going to make it work. We'll figure it out. And they did, and they won a championship. They added Jerry Lucas, who was a great center, and they had Willis Reed already, but they wanted to have more depth there because Willis Reed was a guy who got hurt. It was that point of his career. And so Jerry Lucas comes in and he added an element of shooting and intelligence and all that other stuff, and he was also part of it. Like, you added pieces to a team. That was nothing organic about that. That was. That was a team that already won.
Peter Rosenberg
A championship, but it was a different time. And even when you talk about that, they didn't want Pearl here, you know, they. They weren't sitting there waiting 52 years for a championship. League didn't even exist 52 years prior.
Alan Hahn
That's Fair. But yeah, you know, so they were. They were waiting 20 something years, but yeah, but it's, it's. Look, and I want everybody understand that we are not trying to start, like, we're not trying to sucker you into believing that this is going to happen, but what we wanted to tell you is that it could more than maybe ever before. When in the past. Yes, I've always been skeptical, but the more information you're getting, the more you realize, no, this is something I could see him doing. Like, I really can see LeBron doing this. When you consider all the variables, it is the. Could this be the last season of his career? Is the West a place the Lakers right now is currently constructed to win a championship? Does he want another championship? Of course he does. Oh, by the way, he has four, right? And what do we say about winning in New York? You win one in New York, it's like winning two. Well, he has four. If winning one in New York is like winning two, how many did Michael have? Six.
Peter Rosenberg
Six.
Alan Hahn
Just keep that in mind.
Peter Rosenberg
And when the. And the thing with. With Messier, he. He won five. Ranks four of them in Edmonton.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, but nobody. Nobody talks me.
Peter Rosenberg
Five in Edmonton because he won one without Gretzky. And still the one in New York outshines in a lot of people's minds.
Alan Hahn
Biggest one career.
Peter Rosenberg
It's a big deal in the way he treated it. It was important to him to try to slay that dragon. It was part of his legacy. Jordan can't go six for six. That ship's already sailed. Right. So he has to find.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, LeBron can't. LeBron can't.
Peter Rosenberg
LeBron can't.
Alan Hahn
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
Go six for six the way Jordan did.
Alan Hahn
But he can get five. But five with. With a bullet.
Peter Rosenberg
Right. But five, you know, with four different teams. And to be able to slay a dragon like Jordan never. I guess he slayed a dragon in Chicago because they had not won.
Alan Hahn
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
But this is a thing, man.
Alan Hahn
We all know. Think about this, of championships. When you think about team, and I'm not talking about small market teams, because unfortunately, I know people want to get upset, but it's a reality. Major market, major brand franchises to win a championship. There's something different about it, okay? It's real. And when you've gone a long time without one O' Rangers, 54 years, 1994. That was monstrous. We all agree. So let's say right now, would you say Knicks, Maple Leafs.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Cowboys.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. Cowboys are now 25 years.
Alan Hahn
Right. And if there's. I Don't think there's. Well, Mets would be the baseball team, wouldn't it?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, well, Mets, Mets.
Alan Hahn
Because the Yankees have won recently. The Dodgers just won. Like. Give me the one.
Peter Rosenberg
The major one.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, major. Red Sox have won a bunch. Now, like, the Red Sox thing is out of the way. So there's really nothing in baseball right now that feels like the. Boy, if that team ever won, maybe the Cardinals.
Peter Rosenberg
I. I guess Cardinals won in 2011. It's not that long.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, it's not that long. Okay. So there's that. I look at it like that. I look at it as the maple leaf thing. Now, maybe not in the US but in North American sports, the maple leaf is winning a stage.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, the original 16 that has not been to the Stanley Cup Final since they won in 67. When it was 16.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. So we know, like that happens. The city of Toronto, the Ontario, even most of Canada.
Peter Rosenberg
All Canada, except. Except Quebec. It would go nuts.
Alan Hahn
Except Quebec. But that's what I think. The Cowboys might be the closest thing. The Cowboys winning a Super bowl. And that has not been nearly as long.
Peter Rosenberg
No, it's going on 30.
Alan Hahn
30.
Peter Rosenberg
Right.
Alan Hahn
But the Cowboys and the Knicks are the two places that if you go there and win a championship, you'll be a God forever.
Peter Rosenberg
And I can't put the cow. It's. It's. Cowboys have not been. It's. It's half the time in the Knicks. Like, what was the. The Cowboys last championship was the 95. So 96. Super Bowl. So we're 30 years.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
That's not 52.
Alan Hahn
No, but it's the longest I can think of. And they have been as a brand. Come on. We all know it's.
Peter Rosenberg
No, they're a huge. And you love to hate Cleveland. Browns are. Nobody cares.
Alan Hahn
Come on.
Peter Rosenberg
I know, but it's still an old time.
Alan Hahn
But it's Cleveland. It doesn't feel the same. I'm talking one. That seismic reaction. It would have to be the Cowboys, the Knicks and the Maple Leafs.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. I can't.
Alan Hahn
I'm not talking about the world turned upside down kind of feeling if they actually wanted to. The Cubs were there.
Peter Rosenberg
The Cubs were there. Yes.
Alan Hahn
The Red Sox were there.
Peter Rosenberg
It was over 100 years.
Alan Hahn
2004 was. Is this really happening? Right. But that. That's already done. I still think there's three left that are major brands that have just. You've only known for the most part, losing. And those are three major brands that I'm talking about.
Peter Rosenberg
All right, let's get back to the phones. 1-800-919-3776. Blanderson, Hooper, you're on. Don, Hanna, Rosenberg. What's up?
Blanderson Hooper
How's it going, guys?
Peter Rosenberg
It's going.
Blanderson Hooper
Before, Before I get to LeBron. I do just want to say that I think that the signings of Yabu, Sully and Clarkson put the Knicks in the driver's seat for. For next year. But in terms of LeBron, I totally get. Don, where you're coming from in terms of, you know, it'll all become about LeBron and his farewell tour and all that kind of stuff. But I'm gonna say something that I know is gonna sound like I'm making a joke. I guess to a certain extent I am here, but I've never been a big butt guy. Okay. And if they bring in LeBron.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, really? Why is that just this how you bud, that we all have our taste.
Blanderson Hooper
There's just other things that I think I, you know, that I'd focus on more. And so there are probably children listening at home.
Peter Rosenberg
No, never stop. Stephen A. Smith. Remember what Stephen used to say? Well, I'm not even gonna.
Blanderson Hooper
He's Stephen A.
Peter Rosenberg
And he.
Blanderson Hooper
He makes a lot more money than that's.
Peter Rosenberg
They don't all of us combine, that's for sure.
Blanderson Hooper
Yeah. If they want A championship with LeBron, if they ring him in, I don't care if every single day for the rest of my life, somebody says to me, yeah, but they had to bring LeBron in to do it. I couldn't care less.
Alan Hahn
Thank you.
Blanderson Hooper
I've watched the Yankees win multiple championships, the Giants, I've even seen a Stanley cup for the Rangers. I've been watching this team since 1987 when I was a 9 year old kid. I want a damn chip. I don't care how we have to get it. And anybody who comes on and says you that would be ridiculous. We don't need him to. They're out of their minds. Do I want to trade, you know, and somebody like Kat or. No, but for a championship, something that you could hold on to for the rest of your life and say you witnessed it. I don't know how anybody could be against it.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't. I just. I keep repeating myself because I feel like people are misconstrued in what I say. Everything Blanderson, hooper said is 100% correct. It just. It'll kind of suck a little bit that it'll be all about LeBron. Part of winning a championship is that you get to luxuriate in your team winning. And it's A team thing and a Knick thing, and all of the. All of the former Knicks that never won coming to the Garden, because I saw it in 94 with the Rangers. You know, Patrick Ewing will be there and Harper is going to be there, and all the surviving members of the. Of the 70 and 73 teams are all going to be there. And it's just going to be a Knicks celebration. And there's going to be LeBron on the COVID of Sports Illustrated, cover of all the newspapers, first person they interviewed coming off the court, even if he scored no points. And it'll be LeBron this, LeBron that. And you'll be, at some point during all of your drunken celebrations on 7th Avenue, we're going to go, you know, by the way, the Knicks did win a title. All right, why is it all about LeBron? But unfortunately, you got to trade for that. You have to trade for that. Because the alternative is just inexcusable at this point. That the New York Knicks, one of the flagship franchises of the NBA, haven't won a chip in 52 years. Ridiculous, right? You know, so this is what. This is why the jets got Aaron Rodgers. Because it's ridiculous. They haven't won since 1968.
Alan Hahn
Do you know that the Knicks.
Peter Rosenberg
It's ridiculous.
Alan Hahn
Don't have a Larry o' Brien trophy?
Peter Rosenberg
That was before Larry.
Alan Hahn
Before they. It was before they created the Larry o' Brien trophy. Their trophy was a bowl. Wasn't even a trophy.
Peter Rosenberg
When did they. Early 80s.
Alan Hahn
Might have been in the. I think it was around, like, the Bird Magic era began. David Stern. But like, that's one. You know, another one. The Knicks are the only New York team that has won a league championship to not have a parade.
Peter Rosenberg
No, because the Giants eventually got one. They didn't get 1 in 86.
Alan Hahn
No parade. But they did.
Peter Rosenberg
490. But they did get.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, they got two. Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Later on.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, yeah. Jets had a parade.
Peter Rosenberg
A 1984, by the way, was the first Larry O' Brien Trophy.
Alan Hahn
Mets had a parade.
Peter Rosenberg
Mets had a parade. They did.
Alan Hahn
Rangers, Yankees, of course, famously. We know that. Rangers, certainly. That's famously. You know that one. Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Didn't have a parade.
Alan Hahn
Nick's never had one because Mayor Lindsay didn't want. He didn't want to spend the money on it. And they had a reception at City Hall. They had a reception.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. And you're talking about. If they ever did. I think it would probably be the biggest.
Alan Hahn
It would break records they've ever had. Yes, it would break records.
Peter Rosenberg
Because I looked at the Rangers parade, which was ginormous considering that it's hockey. Right?
Alan Hahn
Yeah, no, that was.
Peter Rosenberg
But part of it was because it had been 54 years and people just seem. It's. We've had this conversation time and time again, but it comes up and it still fascinates me. Why there are certain championships that seem to resonate more than others and not necessarily because. Well, of course the Yankees, that 86 Mets resonate. It resonates more than a lot of.
Alan Hahn
The Yankee championship Shea Stadium held. How many.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, boy. Was it 54,000, something like that?
Alan Hahn
I guarantee you 75,000 people said they were that game.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, yeah, without question, the game six, the way it went. But there were just. There's certain teams like even like the 86 Mets. And part of it was because, you know, the Mets, the giants had gone 30 years between championships 56 to 86. But there's always some championships that seem to resonate more than others. A Nick championship would really resonate.
Alan Hahn
I'm with you because of how long it's been the Ranger Championship. If you ask any sports fans in New York, they'll all when they how power rank the top five championships in the history of New York sports. You're going to tell me that most people aren't going to put that 94 championship there because of the story?
Peter Rosenberg
No, 94. I did a top five during the.
Alan Hahn
Run and all that stuff.
Peter Rosenberg
I think the ones that resonate for me.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
Because this could be a fun conversation.
Alan Hahn
We got a top five tomorrow.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but it's so topic.
Alan Hahn
You've already done it now. All right, let's do it.
Peter Rosenberg
Tomorrow's not promised to anybody. If God forbid, we're all not here, I'll regret it.
Alan Hahn
You said it.
Peter Rosenberg
My one regret will be I didn't do the top five. But I'm not going to actually do a formal top five. But 69 Mets have to be in there. The Miracle Mets. Right. That is the Miracle 86 Mets. We just said that they resonate. Then you're probably looking at 96.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Wade Boggs on the horse.
Peter Rosenberg
I feel. And I'm not even a Yankee fan, I feel of all their championships. 96. Because it had been a long time.
Alan Hahn
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
They hadn't won since 78.
Alan Hahn
Well, again, it's just the NYPD with the horses and Wade Boggs on the horses.
Peter Rosenberg
Who was on the team and rookie year for Jeter. I don't know. You're a Yankee, you tell me. No, but of all the. Oh, those five championships with Jeter right.
Alan Hahn
Now we're being recency biased because 77 was also an insane World Series.
Peter Rosenberg
Like, 77 seemed bigger than 78 because it was like, all right, they won.
Alan Hahn
78 was the second one around. 77 has each other.
Peter Rosenberg
That's so much going on. And I would probably have the 77 Yankees in there now. Obviously, I wasn't around to know how much. Oh. But I got to figure the 55 Dodgers, right?
Alan Hahn
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Right. That has to be them bums, right? That. Those are the ones that kind of jump to mind to me. So if you want to throw yours in. And I understand fans are going to have their favorite championships, but there's certain ones that always seem, you know me.
Alan Hahn
I'm no Ranger fan, but that 94.
Peter Rosenberg
What do you got there? You got the 69 Mets, 86 Mets, 96 Yankees. 77.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Yankees, we got a lot there.
Peter Rosenberg
And the 50, 55 Dodgers have to be there. And. Yeah, I would. I think all them. All those resonate. What resonates more, 96 or 77? I guess it depends on your age.
Alan Hahn
77 that summer, I mean, that there was just something about the New York City, like all this stuff going on.
Peter Rosenberg
That was 77. That was summer Sam, the blackout. There's a lot going on. Reggie, with the three home runs. 77 is bigger than 78.
Alan Hahn
Yes. No, no.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, I probably would have 77.
Alan Hahn
78 is you get in because of Bucky Dent.
Peter Rosenberg
Wouldn't 77 resonate more than 96? Now, obviously, if you're 40, you're gonna say no, because listen, I wasn't alive for 55, but my God.
Alan Hahn
So if we're playing, who you taking out? Your new book? That's coming out soon.
Peter Rosenberg
Yes, I'm taking out this at 96.
Alan Hahn
Taking out 96. So we're gonna have two Mets in and one Yankee.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, who are you taking out? Honestly, 69 Mets.
Alan Hahn
What? I think 69 met team, I think has to have resonated more than 86 probably.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't think there's any question. But that 86 team, I mean, it's still. No doubt, you know, Doc and Daryl still.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
And even Doc and Daryl becoming Yankees, like there's a life to the 86 Mets to see.
Alan Hahn
We got. All right, we've got five. If we take the 86 Mets out and we take out the 96.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't know if you could take.
Alan Hahn
Out the 86 and the 96 Yankees. We take out.
Peter Rosenberg
And then who did you put in? So what's your what's the five then if you take the Mets out, 69.
Alan Hahn
Miracle Mets has to be there, right?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
55 Dodgers has to be there. 94 Rangers to be there. 77 Yankees. That's why. That's four.
Peter Rosenberg
Right. Then in the 86, man, I would.
Alan Hahn
Put the 86 Mets over the 96 Yankees.
Peter Rosenberg
The 86 Mets over the 96 Yankees. I think so.
Alan Hahn
And you know none of the Giants titles, right? None of them.
Peter Rosenberg
I, you know, 86 was.
Alan Hahn
You don't think Scott Norwood.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, not.
Alan Hahn
But 86, that was more improv. 86 was.
Peter Rosenberg
No, the. The more improv. Super Bowl 25 was a better game. But I think you asked Giant fans. 86 was bigger than 90 because that.
Alan Hahn
Was the return to glory, right?
Peter Rosenberg
Like, that was the return to glory is the first championship of my lifetime. 30 years by my dad. The thing that stuck, like, my dad loved the Mets, but his true love was the Dodgers. But I wasn't alive then. And I remember one time, channel nine, just for a goof.
Alan Hahn
Wait a minute. The 69 jets. Well, the 68.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but I don't know.
Alan Hahn
That didn't resonate.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't know.
Alan Hahn
That had to have resonated.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm sure it resonated. But who are you taking out? And also, what do you do with the 70 Knicks? Oh, my God, this is hard, man. That 70 Knicks. It's hard.
Alan Hahn
That 70 Knicks a good one too.
Peter Rosenberg
You probably put the 70 Knicks over the 77 Yankees.
Alan Hahn
And that 70 Knicks, you think about it, that that was at home. How many times has a team won at home?
Peter Rosenberg
Willis Reed.
Alan Hahn
Oh, my God.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, listen, we started something.
Alan Hahn
We did.
Peter Rosenberg
We might have to have the list what we're curating in real time for tomorrow.
Alan Hahn
And by the way, Anthony's looking at his like, yeah, like. Yeah, the 90s was a little bit better.
Peter Rosenberg
There was only one title in the 90s. So. Why are you getting all upset?
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Michael Kay
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Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Peter Rosenberg
Time for let's Talk about it, sponsored by BetterHelp. Mental health is health. I gotta be honest with you. I'm gonna raise the curse curtain. We had eggs. During the break.
Alan Hahn
We had eggs.
Peter Rosenberg
And then Anthony came in with an idea and it, it stirred the greatness in myself and Alan. That's what a great producer does. And all of a sudden, now I've got a bunch. So we're good. So I think because Anthony got the.
Alan Hahn
Ball rolling, he should start.
Peter Rosenberg
He should start because we all, all three of us have one, but Anthony Pusick, who got the ball rolling, is going to start.
Alan Hahn
And his just so everybody knows his sucks. But, but it really got us like, it did spark us, though. So in a way it, it, as much as it sucked, it was very.
Peter Rosenberg
Effective because as a good producer, he was going to give it to us. Neither of us wanted it.
Jacob
Well, you know, Jacob and I agree that this is a problem. So really it's. When you're not, you know, come. When you're coming out of a venue, when you're going to a concert, when you're going to a stadium and you're not, you know, helicoptered out because you have Michael K. Just.
Peter Rosenberg
I've never been in a helicopter. You don't, you don't have.
Jacob
Well, yes.
Alan Hahn
What are you talking.
Jacob
You can fall asleep in a helicopter. Either way, you don't have the. We don't have the luxury that you guys do of having to not deal with the parking garage. And I think that this entire country and maybe even around the world should teach people the etiquette of getting out of a parking garage. Because you could sit there on the fifth floor and every car is leaving at the same time because the event ended at the same time. And there all have to be the first car. I see a guy trying to get in front of me, I'm going to be ahead of him. Why? The one car length difference between you and him is not that much. And if you let him go through, then somebody else will let you go through. And the cycle continues. And it won't take 40 minutes to get out of a parking garage. It'll take like 15. But for some reason, nobody actually understands that or cares to because everybody's selfish. So I would say that everybody has to learn the etiquette of getting out.
Peter Rosenberg
Of a parking garage. I agree. I'm offended for Allen and myself. I assume that you suggest that we are too high browed to go through that. When every Ranger game I've ever done at Madison Square Garden, I have to leave that parking garage across the street.
Alan Hahn
Exactly the way you described. Yep.
Peter Rosenberg
Now when I do the post game, most of it's already filled out. You're good. But if I leave right after the game, I'm just like everybody else, man. I don't get in some helicopter, Rangers, play by Playmobil and like all of a sudden on skis, go across the Hudson River. I am like everybody else and I got to go through it. So I understand what you're saying. Don't talk like Alan and I have some kind of like secret Jimmy switch that gets us home. Right. You had to sit in that. How many times have you sat in that garage spinning around? Then you're like, you think you're on the third floor, but you forget you're still on the fourth. Still got to go another three floors before you get out.
Alan Hahn
I'm a layout on this one.
Peter Rosenberg
What? You know what, Anthony? See, sounds to me like maybe Alan doesn't have that issue.
Jacob
I might have hit a nerve with someone.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
I'm a layout of that first and foremost.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't think Alan's parking on the roof of that building. I'll say that.
Alan Hahn
I used to.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, used to. Back when he was.
Alan Hahn
When I was a sports writer.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. Now he's on. Now he's on MSG proper.
Alan Hahn
But we also don get out.
Jacob
He's got the basketball mobile.
Alan Hahn
We get out so late, that building's empty.
Peter Rosenberg
But not, not if you do play by play.
Alan Hahn
No. If you do play. No. Yeah, but. But they, they don't let me just leave after play by play. Some of us still have to do post game.
Peter Rosenberg
All right?
Alan Hahn
And so by the time I get out of the building, that garage is empty.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't think there's anybody I'm going to make listen. You know, Peter complains I don't talk myself up enough.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
I haven't done the work on this, but between the jets and Rangers, I don't think there's been anybody in the Tri State area that has done more pre and post games on the radio.
Alan Hahn
Than Me, I think you're right.
Peter Rosenberg
So I know post game. So if I get to leave right away after doing play by play, I earned it, brother.
Alan Hahn
Yes, you did. You absolutely did.
Peter Rosenberg
So who wants to go next? Because mine's not sports related. Yours is good.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, I'll go with the. The one I was thinking of is something that I brought up last week and actually when. When Matthew Darch, the new Islanders gm, was on with us.
Peter Rosenberg
Yes.
Alan Hahn
I actually discussed it with him on the air. And as some might know, I hosted the NBA draft on ESPN radio nationally. And so this is the fourth draft I've worked, and every year I've made the same request to whatever GM is for the first team, the team picking first, and every time the same thing happens. Now, I want to point out something. The reason why I need to talk about this is because I was joking around with Darsh about this. The Islanders had the first pick, and I said, when Gary Bittman comes out and says the Islanders are on the clock, you know who you're picking. And he even admitted to us he.
Peter Rosenberg
Knew he was picking, and they got it up there pretty quick, but they still started the clock.
Alan Hahn
They started the clock now. Yes, the pick came in real fast. So that was good. He didn't waste any time. He did tease and say, you know, I could also use my timeout. And I'm like, if you do that, you're trolling. They laugh.
Peter Rosenberg
Exactly.
Alan Hahn
So anyways, that was Friday night, but Wednesday night, Dallas Mavericks were on the.
Peter Rosenberg
Clock, and everybody in their Islanders, you.
Alan Hahn
Could say there was no bona fide number one. There was three guys that were considered the favorites, and maybe they were choosing between them and maybe they would trade it because who knows, Maybe they felt like, we can get a star and get ourselves back on track. The Dallas Mavericks were making the pick. You knew they were making the pick. And there was only one player that they were going to take. There was no other player that they were going to take other than Cooper Fleck. We all knew this. And yet the draft was supposed to start a little after 8. 8, 15. We're still waiting.
Peter Rosenberg
Still waiting.
Alan Hahn
What are we doing? What are we doing? So Dallas Maverick on the clock. Nico. Nico Harrison is a gm. I said, nico, do me a favor. You do not need to wait. You can just. The pick is in. Should be the next words out of Adam Silver's. No Mavish on the clock. And then there's a clock and it counts down. And it got to zero, Don. It got to zero.
Peter Rosenberg
So it took the pick away Cooper.
Alan Hahn
Flag was the pick. And then the draft. One round took three hours. Three hours. There's a reason why they split the first and second rounds. They did it for a reason. Because two rounds on one night, you were going to midnight. We were done at 11:45. What's the difference? So there needs to be a rule. We got to talk about this. There has got to be a rule. You win the lottery, you're on the clock because you don't have to worry about who's picking before me. Who's available. Everybody's available.
Peter Rosenberg
When coverage began for that draft, Cooper Flag should have been standing at the.
Alan Hahn
Podium and just hand him a jersey.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, we're done. All right, that's one.
Alan Hahn
That draft two years ago. Done. Hand him a jersey.
Peter Rosenberg
Done. What are we waiting for?
Alan Hahn
So that has been a pet peeve of mine. And it continues to be in the next CBA for the NHL. They have one right now. They have an agreement in place. Stop it. Don't make an agreement yet until we decide that when you win the lottery, the clock starts there. And when we open the draft, we don't open the draft saying you're on the clock. No, we open the draft and say what you pick? Pick two is on the clock, but not pick one. Anyways, that's why we need to talk more about now.
Peter Rosenberg
The other one for me. And I'm not picking on servers because they work their tail off at restaurants around the tri state area, around the world. And especially now, recently, a lot of restaurants don't have enough servers. So sometimes you've got to wait a long time. And I, and I live with that because I understand that you might be waiting on four or five busy restaurants.
Alan Hahn
You got like five tables in your section.
Peter Rosenberg
This goes back almost my entire life. Pre Covid. Everything.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't get it. I don't understand. Bothers me, but it doesn't affect their tip. I still have to tip well because they work their tail off. I would say I love a water with lemon. That's what I get. I don't drink water anymore unless I'm going to have an adult beverage. Go out to dinner if I'm not drinking and even if I am to hydrate myself, water, always with lemon. I like to have a squeeze a little lemon.
Alan Hahn
Sure. Who doesn't like that?
Peter Rosenberg
I would say 70 to 75% of the time they forget the lemon. An outrageous amount of time. They'll bring the water.
Alan Hahn
No lemon, like lemon is like a typical thing always.
Peter Rosenberg
Why do they always forget now? My wife, she gets a diet. So she loves like a Coke Zero. She's a Coke fan, not a Pepsi fan, but apparently it's like mafia, because if you like, you're either a Pepsi or a Coke play. So, yes, they'll still have both. If they have both, they'll set the building on fire.
Alan Hahn
Right. They'll come get you.
Peter Rosenberg
So she'll drink a Diet Pepsi, but she always gets diet soda. Never forget her lemon, which she doesn't want. So I'm good because I'll just take hers. But I'm just. I just don't understand. They never forget her lemon with the diet soda. And you know what? I'm not even blaming the server because the server usually goes to the bar to get the drinks.
Alan Hahn
Yep.
Peter Rosenberg
So either she or he does not sell the bartender lemon or the bartender forgets the lemon. Somebody's forgetting it like 70 to 75% of the time. And I thought about it last night because I went to. I met the family at B Dubs. We got Declan. So it's a. It's an adventure. And getting out at seven o' clock, getting home at eight.
Alan Hahn
I'm with tough. No doubt.
Peter Rosenberg
So I said, you know, let's meet at B Dubs. Nice. Kids are starting to, like, win.
Alan Hahn
That's great.
Peter Rosenberg
And it was a new one where she brought the water without the lemon, realized there was no lemon, turned around and went and got one. And I gave her credit for that.
Alan Hahn
There you go.
Peter Rosenberg
She still forgot, but she remembered in time.
Alan Hahn
She remembered to forget.
Peter Rosenberg
I can accept 50, 50, but it's. It's close to 75% of the time. It's a shock when they remember.
Alan Hahn
You got to. Why is it. Rethink the place is the way I'm saying it. You know, it's where you're going.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I. Everywhere I go everywhere. Everywhere. Fancy restaurant.
Alan Hahn
Really?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, that.
Alan Hahn
See, that I find, because I feel like at the. Better. At the higher end places, they give it to you whether you ask for it or not. Take it out.
Peter Rosenberg
What. The reason the higher end places usually don't is because they're not. They're going to ask you if you want tap bottle. And they usually will bring a plate of lemons for you. So it's never like a lemon in the glass or on the edge of the glass. The fancy places will bring the plate, but at least 70% of the time they'll forget the plate.
Alan Hahn
So here's one thing for you, Don, that I have been told that you really don't want the lemon. In the water. You know why? Because they didn't wash it. You want it on the side, you squeeze it. Don't drop it in.
Peter Rosenberg
I always leave it on the side. Always.
Alan Hahn
What do you think the lemon. What do you think the lemon's sitting on? Who picked up the lemon with their hand?
Peter Rosenberg
I'm not cutting with their hand. How do you know you're not wrong? I just never think.
Alan Hahn
Ever since I heard that whole story, I always. Lemon on the side. I'll squeeze it myself. Like the lime. Like, you know the whole thing. When you get the lime with certain beer, right, like whatever it is, Modelo, Corona, any of that stuff, put it on the side. I got it.
Peter Rosenberg
And also to 70, 75% of the time when I get a refill and they take the empty with them, they'll bring it back with the old lemon still in it.
Alan Hahn
Oh, that's. See, that's not right. We gotta get better buses.
Peter Rosenberg
But they work. Don't attack me. They're hard working. It doesn't affect the tip. It's just. I'm just more of a study psychology of why. That's the thing you forget.
Alan Hahn
It's an epidemic. But you know what? I was just recently attacked here in the studio just for simply saying that I don't like to wait for a table. Is that a bad thing?
Peter Rosenberg
Nobody doesn't like to wait. Nobody likes to wait.
Alan Hahn
No. If I come in.
Peter Rosenberg
But for you to storm out of the. You did.
Alan Hahn
I did storm out.
Peter Rosenberg
You sat in the foyer and waited. And just to show protest.
Alan Hahn
I don't want to stand in front of the booth, like the girl sitting there, the hostess stand, like some dope, like, you know, okay, I'm just standing here waiting for my table. No, I'm going to go get out. I'm going to get out of here. I'm not going to just.
Peter Rosenberg
Everybody's trying to stand in there, I.
Alan Hahn
Don'T know, staring at you. Are you done yet?
Peter Rosenberg
I don't know why you would think anybody would enjoy it. Like when they get the little buzzer that you wait, like, and you hold it up like a trophy, like, yes, I get to wait 20 minutes. Yes.
Alan Hahn
Bingo.
Peter Rosenberg
Another thing that bothers me is it's all still starting to thank him.
Alan Hahn
And he's just so good at being a producer.
Peter Rosenberg
It happens at the bottom of escalators. It happens walking out of like.
Alan Hahn
I know what you're doing.
Peter Rosenberg
Grocery stores, please. People. I know you're busy. You got your phones. You need to know where your car is. You gotta think For a moment about something. I get it. Don't do it at the bottom of an escalator or top where a bunch of people are gonna now pile on top of you. Walk away, step away and wonder, alright, where's the just shirts? You know I was leaving, I was leaving shopping shop the other day. The woman's got a bed for. I'm just carrying my milk. I just had to grab some milk. She like the door open, she stepped out of the stop it shop stopped.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
And just like looking like where's my car? And now I can't leave. Just step away, move out, make some room. People are just too self absorbed. They don't think about what's around them because I have to deal with my kids. Still. It's getting a little better as they get older. But you remember when they were younger, personal space. Like they don't get there are other people in the world.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Like Marco will start bouncing a basketball, right. And just between people's legs. Like he doesn't care. Like he doesn't think he's bothering anybody. Cuz he's 7. He doesn't realize we have to say Marco, personal space. These people don't need you all over them. But I'm talking about grown ass people stopping at the bottom of an escalator. Oh, I don't. Where's the Jamba Juice? I wonder where it is. I don't know. There's 50 people about the pile on top of you. You'll be the first one to go. Don't touch me.
Alan Hahn
Imagine a stroller top of the escalator at an airport, gets to the top of the escalator. Woman stops, families gather. Little kids all gather around her. She just stops.
Peter Rosenberg
You got nowhere to go.
Alan Hahn
I'm like, hey Glady, you gotta move, you gotta move. You're about to get run over. These kids are gonna get run over cause they're just standing there. There's that. And the worst is also too subway walking up the subway steps, you get to the top where everybody gets to the street, right. Anthony's nodding his head. And you always get that one person that just stops. And everybody's gotta like wait for them to move aside because as you know, there's one, there's one the right side, everybody walks up the left side, everybody walks down. And we're all in a hurry. So somebody's trying to catch a train and I'm trying to get to the street, right. And there's always the one person that decides. I get to the top of the Step. And now I'm gonna stop and escape.
Peter Rosenberg
And now that's more dangerous because now you can knock. Now you could tumble all the way down.
Alan Hahn
Well, it's New York. You just get hip checked.
Jacob
It's like the first time they've seen the sun.
Alan Hahn
It's amazing sun. Oh, I'm on the street now. Which way should I go? How about you just keep walking? You'll figure it out.
Peter Rosenberg
Martino on Twitter brings up a great point. They don't forget the diet soda Lemon, because that's how they know its diet. So if there's multiple sodas. But they never forget. Even if Nancy's the only one that ordered a soda, they never forget her lemon. Ever. I haven't had soda since 2012.
Alan Hahn
Wow.
Peter Rosenberg
I haven't had a cigar since 2013. You promised me a cigar at the beach bash. I never got it. So thank you for keeping the streak alive. Cuz I would have caved.
Alan Hahn
I didn't forget that. The guy was like, he waved to me and I was like, bring him over.
Peter Rosenberg
He was out.
Alan Hahn
No, he waved. It was senor whatever. It was the brand. And he's there and I'm waving. I'm like, bring him over. And he never came over. And the tent was like across the place. We were doing our show. I couldn't get up and go get cigars.
Peter Rosenberg
I guess maybe he was afraid that if he left his post that somebody just would have just ransacked the place. I don't think that would be true, but maybe he was worried about that.
Alan Hahn
But. So I owe you.
Peter Rosenberg
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Peter Rosenberg
You know, it's hard to follow the baseball while you're doing a show, but, you know, the Yankees look like they were in cruise control, freed up to nothing. And then you look up, it's four, four nothing. A four, two. Now as the Blue Jays have put up a four spot at the top of the fifth inning.
Alan Hahn
They had. It was two nothing Yankees.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. So gone is that lead. So we're keeping an eye on that as the Blue Jays are trying to, you know, make things a little bit more interesting in the east because they won the game last night. So they're two back of the Yankees. Tampa is a game and a half back. They've lost a couple of games in a row, so they missed the opportunity to get even closer to the Yankees. They're two back in the loss column. So is Toronto. So if they win this game today, not only do they, you know, beat Max Freed, and there'll be no more Freed, obviously, the rest of the series. They'd only be one back in the lost column, so. And the Mets start their series with Milwaukee, and the brewers have won eight of their last 10. One of the hottest teams in baseball right now, the brewers, as we enter the month of July Allen, are 10 games above.500. And they played some outstanding baseball since the middle of May. They had the best record in baseball since May 18th. So see if the Mets can get something going here for the Yankee series this weekend.
Alan Hahn
How did you feel about the fact that they had, you know, the quote unquote team meeting, right where the Met players were discussing all the things that need to be done? It's so weird. Every other sport you can have a team meeting, get all fired up, play harder, try harder, work harder, all those things. In the next game, you know what's going to happen. You're going to be physical, you're going to be nasty. Football, basketball, hockey, it always happens. You have the team meeting and the next game is that response when where it's just maybe even you get into a little push and shove, you show them more emotion and you're like, yeah, okay, we're back on track. Baseball's the one sport you really can't like come out. And all of a sudden everybody's just playing hard. Like it's like you either hit the ball, you don't hit the ball, you either throw strikes, you don't throw strikes. It's as simple as that.
Peter Rosenberg
If you have a team meeting because guys aren't hustling or they just don't seem to be engaged, but if you're struggling as a team both to pitch because of your injuries and offensively having a conversation about it is all of a sudden going to get you out of it. These things happen. You're right. It's not a question of effort. And you usually time these things out when you've got your best pitcher on the mound or you're going up against a lousy team because you need to have that response. And that's really hurt. The Mets, they had their meeting and then Montask goes out there, gives up five runs in the first inning and it's like game over. And it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Alan Hahn
And sucked all like it killed that the dugout, you could just, Everything just comes out of the dugout.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm wondering this.
Alan Hahn
Damn, man, give us an inn.
Peter Rosenberg
Maybe I'm grasping at straws here, but the seeing the brewers bring something out with the Mets because of how they won that series last year, could that be like a jumping off point? Because hey, you take on the Pirates, right? You just beat the Braves twice, maybe you're feeling it, oh, we'll go to Pittsburgh, we'll take care of the Pirates. And then you don't.
Alan Hahn
You look terrible.
Peter Rosenberg
Now you're taking on a really good baseball team. It's like, all right, maybe it'll wake us up a little bit. A really good team, a hot team. It's a team that. They obviously had that great series last year. Alonzo, the big home run. I don't know. I'm just looking at anything that can kind of get this team going. Cause I understand why they haven't pitched, but the fact that they have not hit is a real, real issue for this team. Let's see if the bats wake up. It's a hot day. The ball should carry tonight.
Alan Hahn
Let me, Let me throw it back at you.
Peter Rosenberg
Okay?
Alan Hahn
If I'm Milwaukee, first time seeing the.
Peter Rosenberg
Mets, I'm in a way about that, right? Devin Williams gave up the home run. He's a Yankee.
Alan Hahn
No, he's not. He doesn't matter.
Peter Rosenberg
You still, you still lost.
Alan Hahn
They still celebrated on your field. Like you.
Peter Rosenberg
That game was over. Like, you're, of course, in that situation. You're thinking, we're moving on.
Alan Hahn
So if, if you're on the brewers, aren't you kind of feeling a certain way, like, you know what, you know, let's just send a little message to this team, right? We're feeling good. We're playing well. Let's come in this place and let's, you know, they're struggling. Let's keep them down. So there's two ways to look at it. Which makes it a very entertaining series, don't you think? At least you hope so.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, I think this is an entertaining week, Right? You're taking off.
Alan Hahn
It's supposed to be two weeks now.
Peter Rosenberg
And listen, I don't know what to think of Yankees, Mets. I hate the fact that it's July 4th weekend. Hate it. I agree, because you got so much going on. Anyway, listen, I'm not. I'm never not watching. Like, I shouldn't say. I'm always watching. Of course I'm not. But I'm listening. And I've told you. Oh, again, you get money if I. If I don't have med score. So I'm following. But, like, you know, we've got Friday, we got is the 4th of July, right?
Alan Hahn
So you got that game 3 10.
Peter Rosenberg
It's not even about what time the games are. It's just always so much going on, right?
Alan Hahn
3:10 on the 4th of July. What are you doing at 3:00 clock on the 4th of July? You know what you're doing? You're at a barbecue, you're in the.
Peter Rosenberg
Pool, but I like baseball in the background. During Fourth of July. I'm barbecuing. We're in the pool. I got the game on the radio.
Alan Hahn
Are you going to do radio? Yeah, I'm going to put. I think I'm. I was thinking about that. I don't have it yet, but I was thinking about putting a TV out on the patio. I know people that have this.
Peter Rosenberg
No, it's cool. I haven't done it. I've wanted to do it, but the game.
Alan Hahn
Want to just hang on the pool.
Peter Rosenberg
Mets, Yankees is not what you want in the background. Mets, Yankees is what you want to be like, fully engaged in.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
And yet you're. It's going to be hard because Yankees.
Alan Hahn
Royals, you're like, just leave it in the background.
Peter Rosenberg
You know, we got barbecues to go to on Friday and then Saturday hosting. We usually do because we could see the fireworks in our town from our backyard. Usually have people over.
Alan Hahn
That's tremendous.
Peter Rosenberg
But we've been. We might have to do a bunch of different things. We've invited to a bunch of different places, so we might try to bounce around. And then there's Saturday, and then we're gonna try Wild West City again on Sunday.
Alan Hahn
Nice.
Peter Rosenberg
And hopefully it's not too.
Alan Hahn
The weather should be good, but you.
Peter Rosenberg
Know what I'm saying, Like, baseball is always in the background part of the summer. But this is always. There's always series where you're like, I. And baseball thinks they're doing everybody a favor. Oh, great. July 4th weekend. Well, now, if you got a lot of stuff going on, it's tough to be fully engaged. And this is. This is a series where you really want to be fully engaged. Both these teams might be limping in. Yankees trying to get something going here in the top of the fifth inning. Runners at first and second with nobody out. Judge with a hit. He's two for two guys with a walk. And now Stanton can change everything right here.
Alan Hahn
So we don't have. We don't know who's pitching for either team, by the way, this week.
Peter Rosenberg
We still got a ways to get. It's only Tuesday. We can figure it out.
Alan Hahn
Usually can figure it out, but they have tbd.
Peter Rosenberg
Got to keep it a secret because can't prepare now. Now they can't. The Yankees can't prepare.
Alan Hahn
They have no idea.
Peter Rosenberg
You know.
Michael Kay
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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast
Episode: Hour 2: LeBron & Talk About It Tuesday
Release Date: July 1, 2025
In this electrifying episode of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg podcast, hosts Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg dive deep into the buzzing sports landscape of New York, with a special focus on the potential blockbuster move of LeBron James to the New York Knicks. The conversation effortlessly weaves through historical sports triumphs, current team dynamics, and relatable everyday frustrations, all while maintaining the show's signature blend of insightful analysis and lighthearted banter.
The centerpiece of the episode is an in-depth discussion about LeBron James possibly joining the Knicks, a move that could redefine both his legacy and the New York basketball scene.
Peter Rosenberg opens the conversation at [00:43], expressing the intrigue surrounding LeBron’s potential move:
"But this LeBron James thing is just so interesting... it might be more of a reality than you think."
Alan Hahn elaborates on the challenges the Lakers face in the highly competitive Western Conference, suggesting that the Knicks could offer LeBron a unique opportunity to cement his legacy by winning a championship in New York:
"LeBron wanting to massage his legacy to the point where, hey, four championships with four different teams... it would be intoxicating."
Don LaGreca adds historical context, referencing the Knicks' last championship in 1973 and the monumental impact a new title would have on the franchise and its fans:
"It's the Larry O'Brien Trophy... the Knicks are the only New York team that has won a league championship to not have a parade."
The hosts passionately debate the potential benefits and drawbacks of LeBron’s possible transition to New York, debating whether the spotlight would unduly center on him or facilitate a team-oriented celebration akin to past New York sports successes.
Notable Quotes:
Peter Rosenberg at [07:31]:
"LeBron can't go six for six the way Jordan did. He can get five with four different teams."
Alan Hahn at [10:02]:
"The Cowboys and the Knicks are the two places that if you go there and win a championship, you'll be a God forever."
The conversation shifts to reflecting on the most resonant championships in New York’s rich sports history, evaluating why certain victories leave a more lasting impact than others.
Alan Hahn and Peter Rosenberg discuss iconic moments such as the 1969 Mets ("Miracle Mets") and the 1994 Rangers championship, analyzing their cultural and emotional significance to New York fans.
The hosts consider the unique resonance of championship wins in major-market teams, citing the Maple Leafs and Cowboys as franchises whose victories would send seismic waves through the city.
Notable Quotes:
Alan Hahn at [16:30]:
"If you ask any sports fans in New York, they'll all when they power rank the top five championships in the history of New York sports."
Peter Rosenberg at [20:28]:
"The 86 Mets, they're still... Alonzo, the big home run... it's a big deal."
Midway through the episode, Blanderson Hooper calls in to share his perspective, advocating for LeBron’s acquisition despite concerns about the spotlight on him.
Blanderson Hooper at [11:15] asserts:
"I've never been a big butt guy... I've been watching this team since 1987... I want a damn chip."
The hosts reflect on the balance between individual star power and team success, agreeing on the paramount importance of securing a championship for the Knicks.
Notable Quotes:
"Everything comes out of the dugout... it's going to be a Knicks celebration."
Transitioning from sports to everyday life, the hosts delve into the universal annoyance of poor parking garage etiquette, highlighting how selfish behaviors can exacerbate common inconveniences.
Jacob introduces the topic, lamenting the lack of consideration among drivers exiting parking garages:
"Everybody has to learn the etiquette of getting out."
Peter Rosenberg and Alan Hahn share personal anecdotes about navigating crowded parking structures, emphasizing the need for collective mindfulness to improve the experience for everyone.
Notable Quotes:
Peter Rosenberg at [24:09]:
"I'm offended for Allen and myself... I didn't get in some helicopter."
Alan Hahn at [35:05]:
"I was just recently attacked here in the studio just for simply saying that I don't like to wait for a table."
The podcast then navigates into the current state of Major League Baseball, focusing on the intense Yankees-Blue Jays series and the Mets' showdown with the Brewers.
Peter Rosenberg provides an update on the Yankees’ current game:
"Yankees have a 2-0 lead... now it's four nothing... Blue Jays have put up a four spot at the top of the fifth inning."
Alan Hahn discusses the Mets' struggles, particularly their offensive woes and pitching challenges, pondering whether team meetings can catalyze a turnaround:
"The Mets have not hit is a real, real issue for this team. Let's see if the bats wake up."
Notable Quotes:
Peter Rosenberg at [41:00]:
"But this is a series where you really want to be fully engaged."
Alan Hahn at [43:00]:
"If you're on the brewers, aren't you kind of feeling a certain way, like... let's keep them down."
Towards the episode’s conclusion, the hosts engage in lighthearted conversations about everyday lifestyle topics, such as dining experiences and personal habits.
Peter Rosenberg vents about the frequent forgetting of lemon slices by restaurant servers, sharing a humorous yet relatable gripe:
"I would say 70 to 75% of the time they forget the lemon."
Alan Hahn and Peter Rosenberg exchange anecdotes about restaurant etiquette and the challenges of navigating crowded public spaces with children.
Notable Quotes:
Peter Rosenberg at [30:00]:
"It's an epidemic... At higher end places, they give it to you whether you ask for it or not."
Alan Hahn at [35:22]:
"If I come in... I'm going to go get out of here."
Wrapping up, the hosts promote upcoming events and remind listeners to stay tuned for future episodes, maintaining the show's engaging and community-focused spirit.
Alan Hahn announces the ESPN New York Tee Up Golf Challenge, encouraging listeners to participate and support the Garden of Dreams Foundation:
"It's all happening Monday, July 21... All proceeds support the Garden of Dreams foundation."
Peter Rosenberg and Alan Hahn conclude with thoughts on their personal plans for the upcoming Fourth of July weekend, blending sports enthusiasm with festive preparations.
This episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg masterfully balances high-stakes sports analysis with relatable everyday discussions, all underpinned by the hosts' genuine passion for New York's vibrant athletic scene. Whether debating LeBron James's next move, reminiscing about historic championships, or sharing personal life anecdotes, the trio delivers a rich and engaging narrative that resonates with both avid sports fans and casual listeners alike.
Key Takeaways:
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Peter Rosenberg [07:31]:
"LeBron can't go six for six the way Jordan did. He can get five with four different teams."
Alan Hahn [10:02]:
"The Cowboys and the Knicks are the two places that if you go there and win a championship, you'll be a God forever."
Alan Hahn [16:30]:
"If you ask any sports fans in New York, they'll all when they power rank the top five championships in the history of New York sports."
Peter Rosenberg [24:09]:
"I'm offended for Allen and myself... I didn't get in some helicopter."
Peter Rosenberg [41:00]:
"But this is a series where you really want to be fully engaged."
For more engaging conversations on New York sports and beyond, tune into the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg podcast, available on ESPN New York's app, 8:80 ESPN, and your favorite smart speakers.