Hour 2: Mets Adjustments & The List

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg: Hour 2 Summary

Episode: Hour 2: Mets Adjustments & The List
Release Date: August 6, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg
Platform: ESPN New York

New York Mets: Struggles and Strategic Adjustments

The episode kicks off with an in-depth analysis of the New York Mets' recent performance. Ty Butler expresses concern over the Mets’ decline, noting that the team has lost eight of their last nine games, pushing them down into the wild card standings. He emphasizes the frustrating inconsistency, especially from a team boasting star players like Juan Soto and Francisco Lindor.

Key Points:

• Offensive Performance: The Mets' inability to consistently score runs is highlighted as a major issue. Despite having top-tier talent, the offense has been unreliable, with recent games showing combined scores as low as three runs.

  Ty Butler [02:21]: "In my opinion, the biggest reason why they've struggled so much is their inconsistent run-scoring ability."

• Pitching Concerns: Carlos Mendoza discusses the pitching woes, mentioning Gavin Williams' near no-hitter and Juan Soto's decisive home run, which contributed to the Mets' offensive shortcomings.

  Carlos Mendoza [02:21]: "We know we're better than that. We couldn't make any adjustments."

• Future Outlook: With an upcoming series against Milwaukee, Butler stresses the importance of significant progress to avoid jeopardizing playoff hopes.

  Ty Butler [04:30]: "It's not just about making the playoffs; we need to handle our business and make significant progress."

Listener Call: Frustrations with Mets' Hitting

Danny, a caller from Long Island, vents his frustration regarding the Mets' offensive struggles. He criticizes the team's inability to hit effectively, despite having professional players.

Danny [05:14]: "These are professional ball players who are paid to hit the baseball and there's nothing a manager can do if the team is not going to hit."

New York Yankees: The Most Hated Players List

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Ty Butler's "Top Five Most Hated New York Yankees Players," inspired by recent poor performances, specifically Devin Williams' disastrous outing.

Top Five List:

1. Joey Gallo

   • Reason: Poor defensive performance and inconsistency since being traded from the Rangers.

2. Jacoby Ellsbury

   • Reason: Underwhelming batting average and unfulfilled potential after a hefty contract with the Yankees.

3. Aaron Hicks

   • Reason: Low batting average and overall lackluster performance despite high expectations.

4. Carl Pavano

   • Reason: Multiple injuries and failure to deliver as expected, leading to his eventual exit from the team.

5. Kevin Brown

   • Reason: Frustrating behavior and poor performance during critical games, contributing to the 2004 season collapse.

Notable Quotes:

Ty Butler [26:05]: "Joey Gallo, if he walked through the streets of New York City, oh, what do you think would have happened to him?"

Charlie Mendoza [03:05]: "We haven't been able to make adjustments as they make adjustments to us as a team."

Listeners are encouraged to share their opinions and additional names to the list, fostering interactive engagement.

Red Zone Expansion and NFL Discussions

The hosts briefly touch upon the potential expansion of the NFL's Red Zone coverage beyond football, speculating on its application to college football and its impact on viewership.

Peter Rosenberg [11:11]: "Roger Goodell says the red zone could expand beyond NFL after the ESPN deal."

Personal Anecdotes and Banter

The episode features light-hearted interactions among the hosts and callers, including discussions about personal lives, such as Danny’s torn meniscus and Peter’s relationship developments during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Peter Rosenberg [48:42]: "Covid is the reason that I linked up with Natalie and that this little human now exists."

Conclusion and Upcoming Segments

As the episode wraps up, the hosts tease upcoming segments, including an interview with WWE personality Paul Heyman and further discussions on sports strategies.

Ty Butler [31:09]: "Devin Williams might end up on the list, but we're still like in the midst of it happening."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ty Butler [02:21]: "In my opinion, the biggest reason why they've struggled so much is their inconsistent run-scoring ability."
• Carlos Mendoza [02:21]: "We know we're better than that. We couldn't make any adjustments."
• Ty Butler [26:05]: "Joey Gallo, if he walked through the streets of New York City, oh, what do you think would have happened to him?"
• Peter Rosenberg [11:11]: "Roger Goodell says the red zone could expand beyond NFL after the ESPN deal."
• Peter Rosenberg [48:42]: "Covid is the reason that I linked up with Natalie and that this little human now exists."

Final Thoughts

This episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg provides a comprehensive look at the current state of the New York Mets and Yankees, blending sports analysis with engaging listener interactions and personal stories. The hosts offer critical insights into team performances while maintaining a conversational and entertaining tone.

For more detailed discussions and future episodes, tune in live on weekday afternoons at 3 PM on 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app, or your smart speakers.

Transcript

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Ty Butler]

No, I need a vacation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

See the movie that critics are saying.

[Danny]

Is an awesome look at that crowd.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pleasing fist pumping all out brawl of a film.

[Ty Butler]

You're right about that.

[Danny]

They're coming after our family.

[Carlos Mendoza]

Go fix this.

[Ty Butler]

Oh my.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nobody 2, rated R. Holding in theaters August 15th. This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. That sounds like heaven to me. Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

[Ty Butler]

All right, let's do it. Our number two, Ty Butler, Peter Rosenberg going to 7:00 clock right here on 1050 ESPN in the ESPN New York app. Talking everything today. Paul Heyman, as Rosenberg just mentioned, gonna join us at six o'. Clock. Big WWE news. We got some NFL news coming. The timeline today as they are joining in partnership with espn. So a lot to talk about. But we have to right now hone in on what's happening with the New York Mets. And I said this yesterday, they better be thankful that the Yankees have been such a disaster class because if not for them, we'd be more focused on how they've now lost eight of nine games. This pivotal stretch where they've forfeited a division lead. They're now sinking in the wild card standings and today being nearly no hit by Gavin Williams, Juan Soto is pimping a home run down four runs, which I didn't like. But let's check in on the Mets. Here was Carlos Mendoza. After the game he was asked about nearly being shut out.

[Carlos Mendoza]

Really good today using all of his pitches. But we also know that we're better than that. You know, they know they're better than that. Couldn't make any adjustments, you know, lateral empty at bats there. And yes, as good as he was, I feel like he gave us few pitches to hit, you know, and we missed him. You know, Lindor hits a ball hard that first inning. So I think he hits a ball hard that first inning. But after that, Vientos I think was the only one which is, like I said, we couldn't make adjustments. You got to give him credit. But they know they're better. I know they're better.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. But it's been a while since we've seen this team look better. Like their offense has been, in my opinion the biggest reason why they've struggled so much. You can't consistently rely on them to score runs. And it was more of the same last couple nights. Three runs combined, that's not going to win. You Baseball games. And it's just shocking to see a team with Soto, with Alonzo, with Lindor, a team led by that star power, struggle to this degree offensively. Mendoza, can you pinpoint why the offense has been so bad?

[Carlos Mendoza]

It's hard to kind of just pinpoint one thing. But you look at the game today or the past few days, you know, we go in with a game plan and we haven't been able to make adjustments as they make an adjustment to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Us as a whole.

[Carlos Mendoza]

As a team, yes, individually you got to make some adjustments, but as a team you got to be able to recognize how they are attacking us and we haven't been able to do that. Today was pretty easy. You saw the curveballs below the Suns against the lefties, finishing lefties with fastballs at the top. He threw some two seams against our righties. But once you get that first time through, we got to be able to make those adjustments and recognize what he's trying to do, as you know, to the whole team. And I feel like not only today, but as you know, the past few weeks or so we haven't been able to do that. And good hitting teams are able to make those adjustments and they're able to, all right, that's how they're attacking us. We got to do this, we got to flip the script here. And that's where I think is the next step for us to be able to recognize that.

[Ty Butler]

Off day for the Mets tomorrow. They head to Milwaukee for a three game series this weekend. They set the bar high last year. You get to the nlcs, you're competitive against the Dodgers, you then add Juan Soto. That bar is set pretty high. So it's not to me just about making the playoffs, which appears to be in jeopardy right now. You got to go out there and handle your business and make some significant progress. And I said at least get back to the championship series. But the Mets, once again, we're talking, Peter, about a team that has now lost eight of nine games and are just hemorrhaging completely, completely flatlining hot and cold.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's stay in that conversation and go to our guy, Danny. Danny on Long Island. What's up, Peter?

[Danny]

Welcome back to the country. I was monitoring across numerous platforms as you were perusing Europe. I saw many posts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you, Danny. I'm glad. I like to know that I'm being safely looked after by a former law enforcement person who if I were maybe in need, you noticed a weird pattern. Could keep an eye on things for me.

[Danny]

I would, I would jump in Front of a bullet, Peter. I would jump in front of a bullet just like for anybody else.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you, buddy.

[Danny]

Of course, I'm much slower than I used to be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I wouldn't make it in time, but.

[Danny]

Still, I'm not washed up, by the way. I'm just coming from pickleball, if you must know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Danny]

What was the final diagnosis? A torn meniscus.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They don't know tear. It's just probably meniscus. And then I won't know if it's torn unless I go in the tube. But for right now, I'm gonna just go to physical therapy and see what happens.

[Danny]

I'm gonna tell you this right now. I've never said this on the radio in the past two weeks. My son, a first responder, Nassau county police officer, was the first person to respond to the person who got killed with the metal chain in the tube.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, I don't. I don't even know the story.

[Ty Butler]

I don't know. That's.

[Danny]

In Long island. Two weeks ago, a guy walked in to help his wife. He was wearing a bicycle chain and a lock around his neck. He was sucked into the machine and died.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, no way.

[Danny]

The video is now out on Instagram, by the way. I've seen that as well.

[Ty Butler]

Not a video.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why was. Why was he sucked into the machine?

[Danny]

Because the machine was on and he. He was wearing a 25 pound lock and chain combo around his neck. This is 60 year old man. It sounds like something right out of like, you know, central casting, but the fact that he was 6 years old, it's really threw off the whole, you know, really wild.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't even understand why.

[Ty Butler]

Why was he in there to begin with.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then. I don't get it.

[Danny]

His wife was in some sort of distress, so when the guy entered, when the attendant went in, he left the door open to help the wife, and then he walked in behind him. But we have sports to talk about as well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, my God. Anthony just told me something that I wish you hadn't even said that something very similar to this is in the new Final Destination movie.

[Danny]

Oh, it's. It's strictly right out of a movie. You can't make. You talk about ways, as I said to my son didn't cover this in the academy. He had to wait for someone to come so you could hand off his gun belt because he couldn't go into the machine. And then a man who was as big as a college football player could not pry the guy off the wall. That's how. That's that's. How strong is this metal?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's such a funny, by the way, what a funny little note that civilians would never think of. Like, as you said it, I just thought of it that he had to wait for someone to hand him his gun belt. Like, as a civilian, I would never think about that. You can't just take it off and hand it to someone.

[Danny]

Hey, can you hold this?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You can't do that.

[Danny]

There were lawyers stacking up on top of each other to figure out exactly who was at fault in this case. But anyway, listen, I'm always optimist. I'm optimistic. And at least with the Met sucking ass in the afternoon, it freed up my evening nicely to take my wife out maybe for a little drinks and some cocktails, you know, somewhere. Because quite frankly, the meth did not get a hit from the fourth inning on yesterday into the ninth inning today. So that's about 13 and a half innings by my high school education. I have college education, actually, math. That was just unbelievable. So I, I don't know what's going on. I feel bad for the manager because these are professional ball players who are paid to hit the baseball and there's nothing a manager can do if the team is not going to hit. You could, you can complain about hitting runs and these people are paid to hit a ball and nobody seems to know how to hit the ball. And you know, Ty said dimension. Thank God the Yankees are not doing well. Well, let's, let's put the Phillies on that list as well. Yeah, because the Phillies would have left us in the dusk in the last month that they've been playing their pay level, but they're not as well. So the Mets are hanging around. Phillies lost again today. So there we are with two. I never saw a team two and a half back in the first week of August look as in, in trouble as the Mets are because they're not hitting, they're not getting any depth of starting pitching. Another starting pitching and you know, you go five and a half minutes now is like a complete game now. It's, they've been, they've been good, they haven't got bombed, but they just are not scoring runs. Last night, two nothing. Bases loaded, one out. Lindor gets up, he hits a nice hard ground ball, but they made a tremendous double play. They didn't threaten the rest of the night. It really, you can't, you can't say anything about the coaching when you know you're not hitting the ball. And speaking of coaching, one last thought. If I Have to hear one more person say that a guy walked at the Yankees. Need more work on fundamentals or blah, blah, blah. These players have played hundreds of games a year since they were nine years old. The rules haven't changed since T ball, you know, you, you know, run around, two outs, run. You know, like it's this again, not the coach's fault that Chaz decides to stand there like a zombie. Like, what are you supposed to do? Run on the field and grab the guy? I've seen plays. I see better plays in the Little League World Series, which is now. Which maybe that's, that's all I watch tonight, by the way. Then I see in professional baseball this day really quite fascinating.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's. Thanks for the call, Danny. Good stuff. That, that's sort of my issues. We keep going back to this Fundy's conversation.

[Ty Butler]

Fundies.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Come on, man.

[Ty Butler]

These.

[Peter Rosenberg]

These guys are grown ups. They don't have. They don't have the. Come on.

[Ty Butler]

But it's gotta be emphasized. And when it becomes a problem.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but it just, it's a bad sign for a team. It's just a bad sign for a team that was in the World Series that you don't have fundamentals.

[Ty Butler]

It's also a bad sign because we keep hearing about how much they love Boone. If you love them that much, you shouldn't be going out there mailing it in. Like, if I love my coach or my manager, I'm gonna play hard. I'm gonna do my best to win these games. And when Jazz is getting thrown out and after the game's like, yeah, I'd do it again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're not, you're not doing a favor for your, for your manager. 1-800-919-3776. Will in the Bronx. What's up, Will?

[Danny]

What's going on, guys? Pete, welcome back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you, friend.

[Danny]

All right, quickly. Guess I got ahead of myself because I have a top five list of bums from the Yankees.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ty Butler]

Okay.

[Danny]

I don't know if I could save them, but.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh yeah, but you're early. I'd rather. I'd rather you give us that after Ty's list. So Ty can hit guys at 4:30 and then you other people can unveil their bums.

[Danny]

That's fine. I could stay on hold. I guess what I wanted to add before that, before the list is just to educate you on Red Zone. He normally says seven hours of commercial free football and not six.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, seven hours. Thank you for that, Will. That is a huge game changer for.

[Ty Butler]

The way that I, that really added to the conversation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, listen, I truthfully, it makes everything different. I don't even know how to talk about it anymore. You know what I just saw, speaking of red zone. Just saw a headline. Roger Goodell says the red zone could expand beyond NFL after the ESPN deal.

[Ty Butler]

I saw someone mention like could college football.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I got to tell you, Red zone for college football would be a game changer for someone like me. That's a game changer because I don't have enough of a commitment to college football.

[Ty Butler]

I agree.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But if it's a Saturday night, Saturday.

[Ty Butler]

Lit and it just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. It's. Let's say it's. It's 2:30 on a Saturday afternoon. I'm in the, I'm in the hotel chilling, nothing's going. And I got a red zone channel for college football where I can just see great plays and offense like you're.

[Ty Butler]

Giving me what I need. Yeah, I totally.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I wouldn't be mad at that.

[Ty Butler]

A red zone for college football I think would be awesome.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It only works though as a channel. Red zone fundamentally only works for football as we are joined or we are joining 880 ESPN New York. But you know what I'm saying. I was thinking about that. But what about other sports? But you realize it doesn't work in other sports. It can now on now on NBA tv. They couldn't do an around the league thing towards the ends of. They do that, right?

[Ty Butler]

They do, yeah, they do that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And baseball does it. MLB Network does it at night too.

[Ty Butler]

Live look ins.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They'll do the live look ins.

[Ty Butler]

But it doesn't work the same way that football does.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Uh oh, I think the interns were just released into the wild.

[Ty Butler]

I was like, what happened? Their final meeting as interns.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is big.

[Ty Butler]

And now they get to actually hear you killing them on the speakers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But like what I said they missed the entire thing. None of them even know that happened.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, they know what happened.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How? People listen to the, to the show.

[Ty Butler]

I know that you don't think they do, but.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And what. And told them.

[Ty Butler]

Oh yeah. Wait, and what was the reaction?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What'd they say? I heard Peter needs his car moved.

[Ty Butler]

That was funny.

[Peter Rosenberg]

See, by the way, whoever that is.

[Ty Butler]

Who said that, yes, I do need my car moved.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a go getter. That is a go getter. He. Whoever he or she was who came. It was like, yo, I heard Peter needs something. What's going on? That's the kind of person what let's do It.

[Ty Butler]

Wait. Anyone offended? Because that's what I'm looking for, someone to be offended. Coming.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't say anything about them. What would they be offended about?

[Ty Butler]

Let's get it shaking. Anyone offended?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Someone walked in, said, heard Peter crushed us in the second segment. I said, well, the podcast is out. Wherever you get your podcast, you can.

[Ty Butler]

Go take a listen for yourself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And by the way, if that same person went, really? They do podcasts fired. Get them out the door right there.

[Ty Butler]

I want an offended Internet.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If they're not subscribed right now, I.

[Ty Butler]

Want an offended intern to come on this microphone and have it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, they would be being disingenuous, though, because they haven't even heard the segment yet. So how could they come in and defend themselves if they don't even know what there is to be defended?

[Ty Butler]

That's how most fights work.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What you said about me, when really, it was really more, oh, look, they're throwing up their arms. When really it wasn't about the interns.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. It was about upper management. I had your back. I had your back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There was no need to defend them. It wasn't about the interns.

[Ty Butler]

He said, you guys do nothing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not true. Not true.

[Ty Butler]

Unworthy of your position.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Lies. More lie. Not a knife to the heart. Another lie from Ty Butler. I said, it's a shame that we're.

[Ty Butler]

Not moving your car. That's what he said. It's a shame you guys haven't gotten me a sandwich yet.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It did sound somewhat like that. It sounded like that, but. But it's not exactly that. They said they have one more day. See, these are the two go getters, by the way. We're learning who's who. Because they're like, what? Where's a sandwich? Where's a car? We'll do it. That's. That's the kind of interns we're looking for drugs at. Yeah, I heard you needed drugs. I heard you need drugs. Where's it at?

[Ty Butler]

Let's go get it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think I'm going to wait on the drugs, by the way, till tonight.

[Ty Butler]

Because they could have you feeling away during the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that you're. You're suggesting at some level of responsibility. Eggs. I don't feel like getting them from the car. And apparently none of these deadbeat interns will either.

[Ty Butler]

Deadbeat? I wasn't offending you guys. I just caught you.

[Danny]

Deadbeat.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And no, I just think it doesn't make sense right now. Cause they suggest that I take it with, like, some pepcid or some heartburn. Stuff. So I think I'll wait till I get home, take it at night and then. Don't you want it to, like, help make your nighttime? I don't know what's better, night or daytime, though. Cause sometimes you don't want that inflammation during the day.

[Ty Butler]

I think the nighttime is where you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Feel the right time.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. You feel most safe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I'm not gonna, like, take. I'm not gonna down it with some Jack Daniels. What kind of animal do you think I am?

[Ty Butler]

I don't like the way this dude is looking at me while he's rubbing his knee. That way he's, like, just rubbing his knee. Talk Nighttime is the right time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nighttime is the right time.

[Ty Butler]

Looking at me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Facts.

[Ty Butler]

What's going on, bro?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's a lot going on out here. Let's go to Dave in the car. What's up, Dave?

[Danny]

Hey, what's up, guys? Thanks for having me on. I have a question, and I want to see if you can kind of see my perspective. I look at Brian Cashman and the way he's been successful and unsuccessful with the Yankees. And my question every time we get to this time of the year for many, for a few years now, is why do we have to wait for it to bottom out? Crash? Like you look at how the transfer portal at NIL ended, what Saban was doing in Alabama, you look at the culture of the. And all of a sudden how things change with Belichick. When Brady left, the culture changed, but it had to just bottom out and crash. And I'll throw a dynasty in. For all the Yankee fans who are saying, we were just in the World Series right now, the Golden State warriors have a zero shot of getting another championship out of Curry. He's one injury away from everything collapsing. No, there's no one fearing them in the Western Conference anymore. That is a team that's in decline. Why do they have to wait for it to bottom out and crash before they realize, you know what, we need to make a change? Let me know your thoughts on that.

[Ty Butler]

I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm with you, Dave. I don't understand. I don't understand why it requires that either. I don't know why their tie cannot be any sort of change because they seem to win 90 games a year. Because at some point, again, I brought it up yesterday, obviously the Knicks didn't see. See things that way. Some teams, they go to a few championship games, it doesn't work out. Let's move on. Some teams are just happy being in the conversation. Hey, listen, Mike Tomlin, he's kind of the Yankees and I'm a Tomlin guy, but when you think about it, that's a team that's always there but hasn't won a championship in a very long time.

[Ty Butler]

He hasn't had a quarterback since prime Big, Big Ben.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that's.

[Ty Butler]

There's at least an excuse for that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And by the way, that's why I would defend him.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. And there's an accomplishment in getting that team correct.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Playoffs correct. That's the different thing about football. If you haven't had a stud quarterback and you are still turning around a team that's competing for the playoffs, in my opinion, you deserve to have a job. However, there are Steelers fans who feel differently. They're like, we're sick of being Yoker. One of those guys like, and sometimes I usually always defend Tomlin. Was it last year, one of the last two years? There was a year where the way they closed the season, I was like.

[Ty Butler]

Last year they lost five straight games.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was last year I was like, yeah, kind of. This is not a great showing for him. But in general it is interesting to me because the Steelers in a lot of ways are the Yankees of football. There's a similarity. The old school feel, the prestige to the uniform, the history of championships, the expectations of what you're going to be as a team. At this point, I just don't get how the Yankees keep trotting it out over and over again.

[Ty Butler]

The Yankees have the best player in baseball, number one, winning MVPs. They had the best pitcher in baseball, winning Cy Youngs and have nothing to show for it. But you know what I think is Aaron Boone is starting to sound differently to me. There was someone, and you don't want to use this as like a barometer, but there was someone on Twitter who was like, yo, you think he's trying to get fired? Like, how do you throw Devin Williams out in that game again last night? How do you put him in again in a game like that last night? Tied late in the eighth inning. Hardy Hard of the order coming up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What do you think the Do I have it homie said I got here. Do we have it here? Here, here he is on why he stuck with Williams. You know, I was going to maybe go with Bednar in a four out situation, but just kind of shortening the game a little bit. We don't have a lot left down there once, you know, and lighter being in a situation where he hasn't obviously pitched in a while. So if I could get it to a 4 out of 10 scenario I was going to do. I thought Devin could still get some swing and miss there and obviously didn't.

[Ty Butler]

He sounds defeated.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love him and hate him so much. I like love him as a guy so much. But when he says things like lines like, I thought Devin could get some swing and miss. Bro, just speak English. I'm sorry. I've been watching baseball my whole life, bro. Do you remember one time back in the day when Sparky Anderson or Joe Tory was like, we're trying to get some swing and miss. We know throws. We get it.

[Ty Butler]

Such a jargon, like esoteric language. But he's. Doesn't he sound defeated? I don't want to be like the tone or body language police.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let me listen to Tony. You know, I was going to maybe go with Bednar in a four out situation but just. That's his regular. But that's his regular.

[Ty Butler]

Like that. Like it feels like he's on his way out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's hear from Judgy on the state of the team. We got some work to do now. A lot of things to clean up with the boys in here fired up to change all that and get things right. And we got a great ball club in here. So it's a lot of mistakes all around. You know, some mental mistakes and physical mistakes. But we got to fix them. We got to fix them now. But honestly, besides the mental and physical mistakes, we could, there's no other mistakes.

[Ty Butler]

We're the best team in baseball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. There's no emotional mistakes, by the way.

[Ty Butler]

So that's a cut. You honestly could have told me it was back in 2018 total or 20.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Ty Butler]

You just made the list, buddy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Ty Butler]

Well, this was inspired shout out to Anthony Pusick, who we know never likes to take credit for anything, but he hit me this morning with an a very interesting topic. He's like, how about your 5 most hated Yankee players said, oh, that's interesting. Devin Williams last night, a disaster. Nothing screams one and done like Devin Williams. So let's go through the top five hated New York Yankees. And this is, of course, I love my generation, my experience. I'm sure we'll get, you know, Richard in Manhattan to call up from something that happened in the 1940s. But this is my list now. How does it work? Like, do I just give you my top five or are people guessing names? Like, how are we gonna do this? We've gone to just doing the list.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But whatever your. I think. I think in the case of this one, because there's so many options, we.

[Ty Butler]

Could just go with it in order, reverse order.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I like reverse order. Five to one.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. So let's start at number five. This guy is most. And it's so embarrassing. Most known for punching a wall, got so frustrated after one of his starts in the Yankee uniform. He punched a wall, broke his hand, missed a big part of that 2004 season, but showed up just in time for the Yankees to have their biggest collapse in franchise history. And I'm talking about Kevin Brown. Kevin Brown and utter disgrace for this franchise. Shows up, as I mentioned, game seven gets bombed by the Red Sox. The Yankees had a 30 series lead. Kevin Brown is number five on this list as we go down, number four. Now, at the time, this was considered a massive contract. Okay, four years, just just shy of 40 million. That's what the Yankees gave Carl Pavano. And. And what frustrated many of us was we had seen him be excellent. This dude. This dude was coming off of a year with the Marlins where He finished top six Cy Young voting in 2004. Like, he was a workhorse. He was tremendous. And unfortunately with the Yankees, not so much terrible. Always hurt. And the injuries were odd. He had a bruised butt at one point, broken ribs he said he had sustained in a car accident. He had Tommy John surgery. There was a lot going on with Carl Provano, so that ended up being a bust. But, you know, Brian Cashman, I'm told, is a fantastic gm. Who other teams Would hire on the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Spot, two seconds he'd have a job. Before he walked out the door, before.

[Ty Butler]

He walked out, walked out the door. But that was not one of his best moments. So Carl Provano ends up at number four. This is a name that a lot of Yankee fans in recent memory, they know about. Aaron Hicks. Aaron Hicks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, Aaron.

[Ty Butler]

And we were told about the athleticism. There's a lot in that bat. Oh, yeah. This former high draft pick, Aaron Hicks. Well, with the Yankees, we know he did not do much of anything at a.232 batting average. Yankee fans grew to despise him, and rightfully so. He was responsible in an odd way. Anthony, I know you remember this, one of the most entertaining games we've had of the last half decade. That Twins game where he came up with a big hit, big slide. Aaron, center field catch. But for the most part, his career with this team was an utter failure. Aaron Hicks ends up at number three. Number two, former Red Sox, Jacoby Ellsberry. Now, the Yankees did have success acquiring former Red Sox players. Johnny Damon, sure. Babe Ruth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's other ones.

[Ty Butler]

There are some former Red Sox. This was not Roger Clemens. Clemons. This was not one of those. Ellsbury. I remember watching him in Boston and kill the Yankees. He was an MVP candidate. Incredible, incredible career. The Yankees didn't decide when he Hits free agency, seven years, $153 million. They bring him to the team and once again, whether it was funny because he actually played well when he wasn't hurt, but he just couldn't stay on the field. So Jacoby Ellsbury ends up being.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I, I would have thought he was number one.

[Ty Butler]

It's not going to be number one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ty Butler]

Because of this guy that you guys took phone calls on every single day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Keep going.

[Ty Butler]

My man. Joey Gallo. It's gotta be atop the list. Joey Gallo, if he walked through the streets of New York City, oh, what do you think would have happened to him?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Physical attack.

[Ty Butler]

Physical brutality. That's what would have happened to Joey Gallo. He comes over in a trade from the Rangers back in 20, 21. Comes to the Yankees. Terrible man, hitting 160. Analytics loved him. Yankees loved him because he did all these cool things. Hit home runs. Defensively, he was a disaster. And his time came to an end where he was officially traded to the Dodgers. So Joey Gallo ends up number one on this list. Now, to repeat, number one, Joey Gallo. Number two, Jacoby Ellsbury. Number three, Aaron Hicks. Number four, Carl Pavano. Number five, Kevin Brown. Top five list of most hated Yankee players inspired by Devin Williams, unfortunately.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I will now put it out there to you, the people. How do you feel about Ty's list? Is he forgetting a Yankee that you as a Yankee fan hate even more? 1-800-919-3776 please let us know who you despise the most. Anyone. Who else was like right there on the outside looking in for you?

[Ty Butler]

KE Gawa. That was a bad signing for the Yankees. Who are the other ones? Other couple ones that I was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What was Devin Williams getting close?

[Ty Butler]

Devin Williams might end up on the list, but we're still like in the midst of it happening, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's early. He can still turn it around or make it much, much worse.

[Ty Butler]

Still turn it around. Kyle Farnsworth. I actually didn't hate Kyle Farnsworth. He threw hard. He was very entertaining to watch. But that, that was someone we toyed around. And then Javier Vasquez, believe he was a former Atlanta Brave, comes over and again contributed to that mess in game seven. Oh, Cole Goldschmidt, home run for the Yankees. How about that, Goldie? As we're trashing former Yankee players, Goldschmidt hits a solo shot. Yankees up 3, 2. Who's gonna blow the save for the Yankees today?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's so many options.

[Ty Butler]

You think Boone goes back to Devin?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He can't. He can't. He can't. If he did today, if he went.

[Ty Butler]

Back to him again, that's him trying to get fired.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is that him? That. That's like a middle finger.

[Ty Butler]

That's like the Joe Judge QB draw. Third and eight. Like that's. That's the same situation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is that how we look back on the Joe Judge moment now?

[Ty Butler]

Third and eight QB draw. Wasn't that against. Was that against your team?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, it sure was.

[Ty Butler]

But people say he was trying to get fired.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The QB sneak on third and eight, you don't see it every day.

[Ty Butler]

We do have some calls coming in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, of course. We are the people. Let me tell you something. When you get to the topic of Yankees, who Yankee fans hate? Oh, like for example, let's see what Will has to say. Hey, Will.

[Danny]

Hey, guys. What's going on?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There you go. What do you got?

[Danny]

Your list is spot on. I had four out of those five guys. I just had them in a different order. I had Pavano 1.

[Ty Butler]

Okay.

[Danny]

Ellsberry, 2. Gallo 3. There was one in there, Josh Donaldson, who was a complete.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's not bad.

[Danny]

Kevin Brown, I had five and Then honorable mention. Isle away. The complete momentum killer.

[Ty Butler]

I don't know that people hated Tyler Wade. He didn't have, like, the star power enough to hate him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Donaldson was good, too, because he bombed and had controversy. Like, it was like. It was like. He didn't even seem like a great guy.

[Ty Butler]

Marcus Stroman.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, man, that's. He's high on my list. But. But Stroman didn't have enough promise or awful moments to, like, put him that high on the list.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I mean?

[Ty Butler]

But Josh Donaldson definitely is one that, if we redo the list, might get some consideration.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go to Pete in Brooklyn. Hey, Pete.

[Danny]

Hey. Hey, boys. Have you been. Shalom, Pete. Good to have you back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thanks, friend.

[Danny]

No problem. Sorry, I'm just getting into my car here.

[Ty Butler]

It's all good, bro. Take your time, man.

[Danny]

Yeah, yeah. World is okay. So before I get to my main point, I was gonna note Todd's list. How about. Remember Hideki Arabo?

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Another he was making fun of.

[Danny]

Yeah. Remember he was made fun of as a million dollar Boo Boo or 50 million dollar Boo Boo on Letterman's top 10.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, that's another Cashman gem.

[Danny]

Yeah, so. But anyway, actually, so what happened was I was on hold yesterday for a couple hours, but I never made it on the air. So I had originally called to basically, you know, say, when is enough enough of cash for Hal Steinbrenner? And then. And then while I was on hold, you said you said something that stuck out that reminded me of a rabbi I once knew. Ty, I don't know what your faith is, but you'd make an excellent rabbi.

[Ty Butler]

Really? No, but what did I say that reminded you of what this rabbi said?

[Danny]

Well, basically, you basically said that somewhere in the organization there should be a place for br, just not his gm, but there should be a place for him. And long ago, I knew this rabbi and everyone he employed. Even if, like, someone wasn't great at one job, he'd always find another job for them. So it just made me think of that.

[Ty Butler]

Well, I appreciate that, Pete. Appreciate the call. So, you know what's funny? I was actually. I thought about this when I got home and watched that video they put up. I was actually making the case for Brian Cashman to get promoted, like, after we're ripping him. But the case was made, he could get a promotion.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what he said. But only because I know you're not firing him.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So you might as well Promote him. That's what. Don't you understand? That's what it is to just be a rich and privileged in America. You don't get fired.

[Ty Butler]

You get promoted.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You get promoted. Get fired. Fired.

[Danny]

Why?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because he didn't do his job well. It's no reason. Let's go to. Let's go to Jay in the Bronx.

[Danny]

AJ hey, guys. How you doing? It almost feels like rage bait that a Rod didn't make that list. Now, I know, I know, I know he won the 2009, and it kind of exercised a lot of demons. But I. I might tell you, I've been going to Yankee Stadium for a long time. I have never heard a man who like him. And he didn't win everybody back with that 2009. There's a lot of people feel that we should have gotten more out of him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But Jay now. But Jay, now the list, you have to think about it ties making the list in 2025 and in 20, and in 2025, he's just not that hated.

[Danny]

I don't know. In circles. I'll be around and look, it's just from my point of view, it does still feel like there's a lot of folks who still don't have a good opinion about.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, but that's different than hate. Jay, he won multiple MVPs. He. He won the. He won your World Series in 2009. Like, I understand it didn't end well with suing the team. I just don't look back. Maybe I'm in the minority. I don't look back at a Rod as like some hateable guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He has hateable qualities.

[Ty Butler]

He's annoying sometimes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. But in the end, because he wins the World Series and the fact is, he lived up to his contract, like, he didn't come here. I mean, there was a period before my man became playoff g. There was a period where I think Stanton could have been fighting to get on that list.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, absolutely.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now he's shut everybody up. You can't. He's one of the only guys you can't say anything about. But I think because a Rod has qualities that you don't love and obviously the steroid thing and blah, blah, blah. He did sue the team. There's a lot of pieces there. But he delivered the numbers. He won a championship.

[Ty Butler]

Think about that. If. If not for Alex, we're Talking about what, 24 years since the Yankees last won a champ or 25 years since the Yankees last won a championship. Like, so, like, there's a conflict there. Like, how Do I feel emotionally about that? He's responsible for your last championship.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, a major piece of that. You can't remove him from it. Let's. I'm enjoying these Yankee calls. We're going to get back to more of them before we take the break. Let's keep this fast. Chauncey and Westwood. Hey, Chauncey.

[Danny]

Peter. Ty, what's up?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey. Hey, Chance.

[Danny]

All right, so listen. Now, when I say all this, I might come off as a Peter Rosenberg hater, but I promise you that is not the case. I just want to call out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm intrigued.

[Danny]

Certain things that I see.

[Ty Butler]

Okay, this sounds promising.

[Danny]

Number one, start the whole interns thing. Peter may not be a man of the people. I mean, when you. When he heard the interns were on the air, it was like he was disgusted. Like, how dare you let these unqualified scum share the airwaves with us elite professional radio hosts. That's number one. Okay, number two. Number two. Alan and Don had some. I forget what the segment was called. You guys made an open for it. But for the beast Bass. Something with the callers. Something involving bringing the callers on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Danny]

I think your words might have been. Worst idea I've ever heard.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think I said, I'd rather be dead than have then listen to that segment. Yes.

[Danny]

Right. And now we tie it back to yesterday and this. And I thought about this since the time it happened. Peter out of the show for a month. No. Anthony Pusick, introduction to enn. Why? Because Peter needed his name even while he's on vacation. Well, here's the thing. When I originally heard the Pusick intro, I was like, oh, wow. They actually took the time to make another intro when Peter's not here. That shows effort. It's a little. It's a little nice touch. Now you say, nah, can't do it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Put my name back on Anthony without giving the details. Anthony. Is that what happened? No, that is the. I can't.

[Ty Butler]

It would be more fun.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I wish that was what happened, but it's. In some ways, it's the opposite. I said to Anthony, and I quote, hey, my name's on the show. Now put your name on the ENN intro. So that is not true. The other part, though, Chauncey, I will say your description of what I said about the interns being on the air, it did sound accurate based on my tone. I'm being a little tongue in cheek. I was just like, oh, who are these people? Normally, I would have thought, if you're doing A thing at the end where the interns get on the air. Just hear me outside. This isn't their fault. This isn't anyone's fault necessarily. Normally that would come after the people have interned with you for a long period of time, that they then get to go beyond the air. That's all. That's, that's just my experience and that's fine.

[Ty Butler]

It also feels a little bit like I wasn't afforded this when I was your age. So how, why are you, how are you getting this?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why are you interning in accounting and then going on the air? But I'm being silly. The, the only thing that you said that was dead accurate was my opinion about them saying, let's do an all caller show.

[Ty Butler]

I, I was at the beach bash. I don't remember this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, I'm gonna say this right now. Don legreca, he's better than me. He's a better man. He's a better sports talk host. Alan Hahn, certainly better looking, has a better voice. He's a better person. Neither of them have a better instinct for what's going to make a good bit on radio than me. How about this? No one at this radio station has a better instinct. Dave Rothenberg's in the conversation. We can have a conversation. But I literally have been creating bits for radio on different kinds of stations for going on 20 years, and most of them have slapped most suggesting we do a live event where the only people who talk are callers is the worst idea in the history of the medium. No other listeners would want that. No listener goes, you know what? I want all listeners. That's not. You ever listen to Howard Stern and go, oh, I hope he goes. Callers all day long. That's not what people want. Now Richard's a special case. We got too high off of Richard. And by the way, the second we guessed Richard, his next 20 segments were awful. Okay.

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[Ty Butler]

Now what's the reference here?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why I get it around?

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, I'm trying to figure it out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe it's just about what Jacob's doing in these streets.

[Ty Butler]

Yo, I haven't said this to you yet, but I used to be included on his close stories and boy, my man was getting it, so I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, wait, what do you mean you used to be.

[Ty Butler]

This is what I'm saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So were you ousted?

[Ty Butler]

So I brought it up once when he produced. It was Barton Hahn at the time and I made it into like a joke like, yo, Jacob's out here living life on his closed stories. Like I get exposed to that and the moment that hit the microphone. I haven't been included since he debted you. Debted me? Now he said he no longer does a closed story. I don't. I don't want to hear that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jacob, this is. You have a moment here to keep it a buck 50 in front of.

[Ty Butler]

God and everyone did. Did you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you really stop doing it or do you think. Oh, you know what? I shouldn't be including people at work on this thing. Tell us the truth right now.

[Ty Butler]

Well one, I'm not going out as.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Much as I used to. Okay, up too.

[Ty Butler]

When I am going, I'm not doing the skin scandalous things that I was doing before like going to strip club like three.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, he was in the strip club. Oh yeah. He was close stories in the strip club.

[Ty Butler]

I'm waking up 6, 7am on a Saturday morning just scrolling through it. It just got booty in my face.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, Jacob, I didn't know you were like this. Jacob was outside. Outside.

[Will]

He was exactly heavy.

[Ty Butler]

This was like maybe it was like pre covered too. Like even during that first year into Covid, I was. I was out here, but I guess I was still learning like you know, what's for air, what's for not, what's not for air. I was still learning that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And do you set it on the air though?

[Ty Butler]

I didn't. I didn't go into the details.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right, but. So are you telling us you have not done any close stories since then or did you remove. Yeah, I haven't done any close stories. Ty is still.

[Ty Butler]

I'm pretty sure in my close friends. Pretty sure he's pretty.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, like if I go.

[Ty Butler]

If I go right now to look. I'm pretty sure Ty.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pretty sure? Yes.

[Ty Butler]

Pretty sure he was out here.

[Danny]

Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sounds like a time, bro. Damn, that sounds good. Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

Those are the nights we go in like three, four spots and you know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peter, you know how it is. Do I?

[Ty Butler]

You used to, baby.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I almost did for a second. I skipped my whole run. I was supposed. When you go through the brutal divorce, you're supposed to then have a run and then settle down. You realize how crazy it is. The blessing and the curse. Covid is this horrible nightmare that ruined so many people's lives, but also just changed so many things in the world. Covid is the reason that I linked up with Natalie and that this little human now exists, this perfect little girl exists only because those things happen. But also Covid happening immediately shut down the run before it even started.

[Ty Butler]

I mean, so you didn't get to hit the prime like the way you wanted it to, bro.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. I guess I deserve it because maybe I was trying to do too much prior to that period.

[Ty Butler]

Maybe the prime happened.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe the prime happened when it wasn't supposed to happen. But. But it wasn't all the way prime. You know what I mean? But maybe I was dipping my toe into the prime too early. And so my punishment, if you believe in that sort of thing, was that you don't get a prime. But once I finally got over the deep depression, I thought I was going to be a 40 year old, self realized confident, some money in my pocket, outside, kind of well known New York City bachelor. That's what it was supposed to be. And then here comes Ms. Hatton hopping in the DM, showing up on. No, she just showed up on my timeline. If I hadn't seen her picture at that random time and sent her a dm, like, hey, what's up history?

[Ty Butler]

Hey, what's up was strictly because, like, you saw, you like, she's a baddie.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I saw the post, whatever she posted and I was, you know, I guess I was starting to creep at this point. So I. Cause she doesn't post really. Like, her Twitter's pretty benign.

[Ty Butler]

It was nothing revealing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no. Not even personally revealing. Was probably a picture or whatever. And I was just like, who is this Isshatton again? And I tapped on her profile and then looked at the picture, tapped on.

[Ty Butler]

Her profile and tapped a couple things after that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Really? It's my wife, mother of my child, you son of a bitch.

[Ty Butler]

I say that respectfully.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, respect. Oh, oh, good. Then respectfully. Okay, no problem. So. So once I looked at her profile, I was like, oh, hey. And we started the chat and then once we started linking up, we decided very early, these are. Now I'm going way back. We barely even talk about this anymore. We got a. We got committed to each other initially, before we were officially an item, we basically were like, I'm not saying we're boyfriend and girlfriend, but I'm saying we can't do anything physically with anyone else. Are you cool with that? And we were both like, yes. So if we want to do anything physically with someone else, it has to be announced what's going on here? Because Covid and we were both like, okay. And then time passes and I'm starting to fall in love with this woman. And now every weekend she's coming over on Friday. We're staying together till Sunday. Now it's like, hey, you want to go to the Hamptons at the end of the Summer. Oh, she's meeting all my friends. I fall in love with Rocky. She falls in love with Ben. Now we're a whole family. We just turned into a whole family. And I never went outside again.

[Ty Butler]

But you can't. But it's cool, though. It's like, no, listen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I said. I remember saying. When I was starting to fall in love with her, I remember saying to my therapist, I was like, I really want to be outside and taste a little, you know, try some different flavors. But what kind of bad person would I be when in the past I got myself in trouble for doing dumb things, and now I'm being presented another opportunity at an amazing person, and I'm going to say, no, no, I need to continue to do dumb things. That's. That's a. I don't know if. I never know if it's looking or licking at the gift horse, but I wasn't playing with the gift horse, so.

[Ty Butler]

You made the right choice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's looking at the gift horse. Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

Is it looking a gift horse in the mouth?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I wasn't gonna look. Wait, you calling my wife a gift horse?

[Danny]

That's what you did?

[Ty Butler]

I'm just the one who came up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

With, well, either way, I said, I can't do that. And so here we are. So, no. The longest answer ever to Jacob. No. I don't know what outside's like. I have forgotten outside.

[Ty Butler]

And it sounds like he has forgotten, too, because he's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's inside now.

[Ty Butler]

He's well behaved. I always thought there was something to the whole, like, cutting his braids and getting the haircut. Cause my. I know we gotta hit a break. My first instinct was, he's got a job interview. My second was, nah, he's with a chick who's, like, trying to clean him up. Clean him up a little bit. So maybe that's the answer. He doesn't want to tell us he's got a girl.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, you got a girl?

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, I'm talking to somebody right now. See?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I'm talking to somebody.

[Ty Butler]

That's why the close stories went, bye bye.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This guy sounds like Shawnie Kultur. My producer on the morning show never acknowledges anything. And then yesterday, I saw him throw up a post on Stories with playing it's your anniversary. I went, wait, you haven't. You're having anniversaries. It's crazy, though, because while you guys.

[Ty Butler]

Were doing a whole conversation right now, I showed Anthony my close friends. Todd Butler's in it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There you go. Anthony Pusick right there, too. Oh. So Anthony, you remember the outside posts or would you wait? I don't. I'm not as you know, I'm not an IG guy. I don't see it.

[Ty Butler]

I don't keep track like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Too bad. Sounds like you missed a good time. Apparently.

[Ty Butler]

Listen, I can.

[Will]

I could repost it so you guys don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't do that. You shouldn't do that. You saved him though, didn't you? You got him saved. Oh, yeah.

[Ty Butler]

Just in case.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah. Just in case. Rainy day. All right, we're going to take a break. Phone lines jam where people want to talk about their most hated Yankees. So we will do that next. One under 9193776. Then the great Paul Heyman is going to step in the building at 6 o'. Clock. We're going to put ENN on hold so we can talk history, past, present and future with the great Paul Heyman. That's coming up at 6. It is Don Hahn and Rosenberg on ESPN New York. You know we've been talking about defense a bunch this baseball season. A good defense is important for your business also. Listen, the truth is, 1/3 of businesses will unwittingly turn over their sensitive company data to thieves this year in an instant. Your customer files, bank accounts, everything is compromised. And you won't know until the million dollar ransom demand hits your email. Preventing data turnovers is why your business needs Thrive, the leading managed security services provider in the US now, it all starts with a comprehensive Thrive cyber risk assessment. Thrive security analysts identify security gaps and deliver proactive solutions to help keep your network healthy and protected. Listen, it's not a matter of if, it's when. So ask yourself, are you ready? Get your no obligations, security recommendations and consultation. Your business relies on it. Visit thrivenextgen.com espn that's thrive nextgen.com espn thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers. This isn't just another ESPN fantasy football season.

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