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Don Hahn
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Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
Like when he holds it.
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Rosenberg
Mets beat the Padres 6 1, so they take two out of three from San Diego. Potential first round matchup for the Mets. So that's good news. And the Yankees will be in Baltimore to take on the Orioles for a start of a four game set at 7:15 Tullamore due the original triple distilled, triple blended and triple cast mature and Irish Whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tullamore Dew or try the new Tullamore Dew Honey during today's action. Glasses up to enjoying Tullamore Dew responsibly. Giants take on the Chiefs Sunday Night Football Chiefs 02, Giants 02 but many people wondering what's wrong with the Kansas City Chiefs? Back to back losses to the Eagles and the Chargers. Nate Taylor covers the AFC Champions for ESPN and he joins us here on Don Hahn and Rosenberg. How are you Nate?
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Nate Taylor
Oh, I am. I am fantastic fellas. Doing well. Thanks for, thanks for having me on.
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Rosenberg
Oh, it's always a pleasure to talk some football and listen, they got some news on Worthy and it looks like he's going to be able to play. Does that answer their problems offensively or are there still some other things going on here that he can't necessarily fix?
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Nate Taylor
Yeah, no, that. That's a great point. Yeah. As of right now, it's trending like Xavier Worthy is going to play. As I've said on multiple occasions. I even wrote this on ESPN.com yesterday. We have no idea how effective he's going to be and I don't know how the Chiefs are going to try to get him involved early in Sunday's game to see if they can utilize his speed. But of course because of the dislocated right shoulder that he suffered in Week one, he's really gonna have to protect himself. This is the first time that Xavier Worthy has played with this type of Injury. So again, fascinating to see how it goes for him on Sunday. But honestly, guys, they got a lot of issues on offense. Their offensive line on the left side is particularly young with rookie Josh Simmons and second year player Kingsley Sumataia who is now, you know, playing a new position at left guard. So that's a area of weakness for pass protection. Right? A lot of teams, at least the first two, the Chargers and the Eagles, really exploited Kingsley, swam at the E in terms of pass protection. So if you can't protect as well as you want for your franchise quarterback, right, well then, hey, just do the, just do the simple thing. Just, just hand the ball off to Isaiah Pacheco or Kareem Hunt. That's been one of the worst things that you could do through the first two weeks of the NFL season. I'm writing about it now. The Chiefs have, as of right now, statistically one of the worst pair of running backs when you consider only the traditional stats, but also the advanced metrics of how little yards the Chiefs are generating running the ball. So that puts all the burden on Mahomes to be excellent, to be a superhero, to do something magical to get this offense, you know, to get him a spark.
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Don Hahn
And that's what you're used to getting from Mahomes, right? You know what I found amazing, Nate? Like you, you say it and it's like, take a second. Patrick Mahomes is 30 years old now. His birthday was the other yesterday, right.
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Nate Taylor
And oh yeah, he spent his, he spent his birthday yesterday looking at Dexter Lawrence and going.
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Don Hahn
Exactly. But it's amazing how a guy that felt like he was forever young and the, you know, the part of the next generation of young quarterbacks and all this stuff. He's 30 now. Obviously we're seeing in this sport that you can play well, you can play into your 40s a quarterback and still be effective, especially the best ones. But it's still, there is a bit of a mortality feeling about him and how many times he's going to get hit because he's a guy that will try to make plays and extend plays. So you mentioned the left side of the offensive line when you look, you mentioned Dexter Lawrence. I mean, how about also, you know, Burns and Carter Thibodeau? Is that an area if the Giants can exploit that side of the line, how much, you know, how much could this become like a game that no one thinks could be, should be a game?
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Nate Taylor
Yeah, no, I think the scenario that the Chiefs have really struggled with guys, and I think it's going to Be really interesting to see what like Brian Dable does on offense. But this is not the same Chiefs offense where, you know, as I covered, you know, all of the Mahomes games, it would be like, all right, well it's 17:7 in the second quarter. Okay, maybe they, you know, maybe they didn't wake up in the first quarter. Hell, maybe they played poorly in the first half. But like they got Mahomes, they got Kelsey. You know, at one time they had obviously Tyreek Hill. But like, hey, you know, they'll figure it out. Andy Reed will scheme up something and they'll have this, you know, remarkable quick turnaround comeback. Well, the Chargers got these guys down 10 points in SAO Paulo. Guess what? Couldn't catch them. The Eagles kept it close and they were the team who actually made the critical plays in the fourth quarter to extend their lead to 10 points. And Mahomes could not bring them back in the fourth quarter. So this is not a team that as quick strike ability as of right now that we've seen so far. And because you, you mentioned how much Mahomes loves to extend plays or hey, as of right now, this season, he's got to actually tuck the ball and run because his receivers have struggled to get open and man coverage. And we've talked about the protection issues already and the fact that the Chiefs have lacked a run game that they were not expecting. Right? So all of a sudden Mahomes feels like, hey, I've got to do it myself to move the football to matriculate this thing down the field. And so that's going to lead to more hits, that's going to lead to perhaps a more turnover worthy player or two. So if the Giants keep this close, I will not be surprised. Right? Because this team has struggled to get off to a fast start. We have no idea if Xavier Worthy is going to be the elixir that they need immediately. And if Mahomes gets down all of a sudden, you're going to be like, hey man, can you just create a superhero play? And again, you're 30, you're not 25 anym. And this team has really put a lot of resources behind the offensive line. But we all know it takes, it takes like a month, maybe two months for a new offensive line to kind of gel particularly on one side of the of the formations. I think the Chiefs would not feel great if they didn't come out of MetLife with like a 10 point win. But a lot of things will have to go right or a lot of mistakes will have to happen from the Giants for the Chiefs to get that type of win. I'm not sure unless Mahomes is just absolutely excellent, that this game probably won't be close in the late third, early.
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Rosenberg
Fourth quarter, even if they figure it out. Nate, how confident are you they can figure out enough to win this division? Because I would think, you correct me if I'm wrong, this is the best this division's been during this Kansas City run.
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Nate Taylor
Yes, yes, you can make that argument because I remember, you know, and what was so funny was like the 2022 season. Just, just a quick reminder. It was like, hey, Russell Wilson's going to the, you know, to the, to the. To the Broncos. And hey, like, you know, Brandon Staley is one of the best young defensive coordinators. He's going to take over the Chargers. And they got Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa, and, you know, there was so much change. And then Mahomes was just better than everybody. Honestly, no one could still cover Travis Kelce. Well, now you move this thing. Three years later, Kelsey is still Patrick's most reliable pass catcher, but he's 351 on 36. You know, this could be his last season. You have Rasheed Rice suspended for six weeks. He's their best skill position player, so it's going to take him a while to get back in rhythm. Right. This is honestly one of the best coaching divisions you will ever see in the National Football League. So Pete Carroll popping in, coach, Gonna get the. Gonna get the Raiders on track with Geno Smith. It's very clear to me that, you know, the. The Broncos should have won last week, but, hey, if I want a coach to mature a quarterback over the course of a rookie contract, then, hey, Sean Payton's gonna do a lot of good for Bo Nicks. And that defense that Denver has should be better. The Chargers look awesome, guys. And we all know how good Jim Harbaugh is as a coach as well. So the Chiefs are going to have to really run the table in the second half of the season. And so it's fascinating to me that not only is Mahomes healthy and excellent and still making a lot of cool plays, but this roster might be a little older than we're used to seeing again. They're not as explosive as we used to seeing so far. And the division's naturally just going to get better over time. You know, the Chiefs have won nine straight AFC west titles. The only, you know, dynasty that has done it more often is the New England Patriots. But those AFC east divisional Teams are not the same as those. No. In the west right now.
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Peter
So are you right now. And those close to the team feeling like the Kelsey thing, like this is it like he, he has taken a full step down and this is just how it's going to be, or do you see it as. Yes, of course he's getting older. These, a couple of moments have happened, but when we get to the nitty gritty, he will still be Travis Kelsey.
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Nate Taylor
That's what the Chiefs are hoping late in the season and obviously in the postseason. One of the more interesting things is like the Chiefs almost kind of feel like these old school, like San Antonio spurs back when it was, you know, Kawhi Leonard and you know Tony Parker and Mono Ginobili and Tim Duncan where it's like, hey, can we just manage their bodies to get them ready for a postseason run? That, that's ultimately what the Chiefs are trying to do. But it gets really hard when it's like, hey, Rasheed Rice is serving at six games for smooching. Hey, man, you were the one who collided into Xavier Worthy. You just made life harder on yourself. Right now there is no more guys. There are no more guys that are more reliable on third down. It's. It's amazing that Kelsey had a pretty good game statistically. When you watch how he's moving, the fact that he's actually kind of making guys miss, he's using a stiff arm, he's being, he's gaining more yards after the catch this season than he was last season. So, hey, you can see some sizable differences in his athleticism, which is what he spent most of the off season training for. The problem is, hey, man, we ran this play like a bazillion times. Catch the football. If you catch the football, the chiefs go up 17, 13. Instead it goes from 13 to 10 to 20 to 10. And as I said earlier, Travis Kelsey is not giving you a 50 yard touchdown anytime soon. So I think he looks better than he did last year and that's a lot of credit to him. But he's back in the same predicament as Mahomes, which is, man, it's really, it's a lot of work to move the football up and down the field time after time after time. When your second best receiver right now is Hollywood Brown. And we all know that he's been dealing with injuries throughout his career, so at least he's healthy at this point. And it's going to be a good sign that they get Xavier Worthy back. But you can't put the burden of the offense all on Mahomes and all on Kelsey. But that's basically what we saw Sunday and it wasn't good enough against a very talented Eagles team.
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Rosenberg
Nate, as you prepare for this game and you see what Russell Wilson did to the Cowboys last week, obviously you're not going to throw for 450 yards, but do you, do you buy that he still has something left or did you look at week two as just a blip on the radar screen?
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Nate Taylor
Man, it must be really nice to throw them in league Neighbors. It must be so nice. Like it really just simplifies things where it's like, oh yeah, that guy really fast. Just go deep, man. I'll just get it to you. We know the Chiefs play a lot of man to man coverage. So much of those same highlights we saw against the Cowboys, I guess could happen against the Chiefs. Now the Chiefs have a better, you know, cornerback pair with Trip McDuffie and Jalen Watson. But hey, if you give Russell Wilson enough time, the middle of the field can be open because the Chiefs are pretty young at this at the safety position. But your Mari Conner and Brian Cook, you know, they lost Justin Reed in the off season, who was one of their big leaders. And of course you can maybe isolate Nick Bolton, the talented linebacker, against a tight end. Nick Bolt is more of a thumper than he is a coverage specialist at the linebacker position. The problem with Russell Wilson, and we all know this, is he holds on to the ball. So it's so fascinating that the Chiefs are worried about Dexter Lawrence and I'm sure the Giants are worried about Chris Jones because it was clear from the Eagles game plan and Brian Daniel should just like copy and paste it in my opinion is, hey, wherever that 95 is, four hands, double team this man to death. Ask somebody else to beat us if we get time like Jalen Hurts did at one point in the second half, I can throw a deep shot to Devontae Smith and get a play that gets us in the red zone. We know Steve Spagnolo loves to blitz. So if you double team Chris Jones throughout the game and Spagnolo has to blitz, that's your one on one opportunity for Russell Wilson to just rear it back, throw it deeper, see if you get a pass interference. If you get a great cast from Malik neighbors, the game plan is there. But it's so funny that much of my thoughts in talking to the guys this week is Russell Wilson hasn't known to turn the football over if they can't get turnovers against the Giants. Oh, buddy. I mean, for any Giants fan that's listening right now, the Chiefs do not have a turnover in two games. Haven't come close. So if Russell Wilson can protect the football, get his one on one matchups and throw a deep, the Giants will have a chance in this game.
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Don Hahn
You're asking an incomplete team to play a perfect game or a clean game, and that's certainly something that Dava would love to see because the first two games haven't been. Haven't really been like that. It's funny, it's not a great pass rush from the Chiefs, but a. Not a very good offensive line for the, for the Giants. Something's got to give, Nate, right? Something's got to give. Yep. But like, you know, you talked about Kelsey, you know, again, I can't go out like that. And then these first two games for him, it looks like he's going out like that. But in general though, because of what they, the reputation they have at 02, you just, oh, they'll figure it out. They'll figure it out. You always just default to they'll figure it out. But if you could imagine 03 in Kansas City, does panic set, like what happens there? Because there is so much trust and credibility built in because of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and Travis kelce.
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Nate Taylor
What would Owen3 mean?03 would mean everyone's allowed to push the panic button. Everybody. Owen3 would, would really signify that, like, man, this team is not as well coached as they've been in the past. They don't have, again, the same level of explosion on offense. Right. I mean, again, if the Chiefs can outrun the ball against the Giants because of the Giants front four, then, hey, totally understandable. That puts all the pressure on Mahomes. We all know that these games are usually close and a turnover or two can make the difference. If the Chiefs can't generate turnovers, even though they have Chris Jones, even though they have Trent McDuff, even though they have, you know, Nick Bolton, well, you're allowing the team to kind of stay in the game. You're not flipping the field and giving Mahomes a short field. I mean, it would be absolute panic because this was a team that said, hey, you know, we're really good. We've been to three straight Super Bowls. We've won two of them. We were the first team ever to even get to the third straight Super Bowl. Hey, we know what it takes. Like, give us the benefit of the doubt. Trust us, right? Hey, you lose to a division Rival in week one. No one's going to be like, you know, totally upset again. Jim Harbaugh, the Chargers, obviously a good football team, the team that many people thought was going to compete for the division with. You, okay, you, you, you, you, you. You played the Eagles really tight for three quarters, and then the Eagles made the plays in the fourth quarter and you lose to the defending champions. Okay, you lose to the 0202 giants.
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Don Hahn
Yep.
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Nate Taylor
Where the Giants looked in epsilon offense in week one and their defense allowed Dak Prescott to just find every void available with time within the pocket. Where do you go? It becomes an issue because, as we know, the Chargers are good, the Ravens are good, the Bills are good. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens with the Bengals with Joe Burrow, but, you know, they're still two and out. The chief schedule doesn't get really easier. They still got to play the Commanders. They still got to play the Lions. They got the Bills and the Ravens on their schedule as well. So 03 would be an embarrassment, especially losing these games in prime time in Sao Paulo, the national game of the week at home in Arrowhead, and then obviously a primetime game Sunday night against, again, I don't know if Jackson Dart's gonna play. I would say probably not. But, like, you can't lose to this team from their perspective, given what they believe to, you know, given what they. Their reputation and the fact that, like, it would be. It would be allowed, in my opinion, for everyone to panic, to really question what the hell's going on if they lose to the Giants. But again, hey, these things sometimes end quicker than we anticipate, and sometimes these issues get revealed in a bigger way than anybody could have seen on paper. And that's the beauty of this sport, man. It's so silly. It's. So what are you. That particular day on that particular week. And so if I'm a Giants fan, I can go into this game knowing that she's ar vulnerable, and, baby, they have yet to put a full game together. So if they don't do that against my team, the Giants. The Giants will have a chance to win.
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Rosenberg
Well, we'll see. Nate, great stuff, man. Really appreciate the talk to you down the road, man.
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Nate Taylor
Of course, fellas, anytime. Thank you so much.
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Rosenberg
All right, that was.
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Peter
I want everyone to remember this moment.
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Rosenberg
Nate Taylor, by the way.
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Peter
I want everyone to remember this moment on Monday when we go. Remember that long conversation we had with the guy from the Chiefs. We talked about all the scenarios, and then when the. When it's 34 to 7. But we're like the Chiefs just chiefd us.
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Don Hahn
But Peter, the beauty of the NFL is the four letter word starts every Monday and gives you a whole week of it. And this is a very interesting scenario that the Giants are in because they're owing to. But so are the Chiefs both desperate. Like you know, again, Chiefs are desperate, but they're more desperate. And I think there's something compelling. 202 teams meet. It's rarely a compelling game. Right. Usually it's these are bad teams. This is a really compelling game and.
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Peter
Maybe with two bad teams and by the way.
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Don Hahn
No, no, but. But I'm telling but it's the Chief so it's course it's going to have a little more to it but there is a way to a win and that's what Nate was telling you. The weaknesses that the Chiefs have, the Giants have the have the strengths to exploit it. And I'll tell you this.03 is the death is the death sentence in the NFL. Of the 165 teams to start with three straight losses since 1990, only four made the playoffs. Four. Four.
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Rosenberg
And if you're going to do it.
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Don Hahn
It'S a Kansas City Chiefs. Right.
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Rosenberg
And if you're going to do it, you start on three. In the NFC there might be an avenue but with all the good teams in the afc. But who knows is Cincinnati dead because of Burrow?
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Peter
Yes.
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Rosenberg
You know that look like it. Miami looks like they're cooked. You know, so there might be not to win the division, but there's still going to be a chance to make it.
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Peter
Exactly. And so those two may be cooked but then there'll be one team we weren't even thinking about that emerges.
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Rosenberg
Yeah, there could be that team. But I will say this and this is just off the top of my head. I didn't take the deep dive. But Giant fans will know. The Giants fan, the Giant problem here in recent vintage has been winning games in their division. Winning games period. But really being humiliated in their division. Yes, but if you look, Tyrod Taylor almost beat the Bills in Buffalo. If you remember, there was a nationally televised game a few years ago where they had the Chiefs on the ropes but then Mahomes came up with a big drive. They won. If you remember, there was another primetime game in Tampa where it looked like they were about to beat Brady and then Brady had a drive late, won the game. It's not unusual for the Giants to hang with teams like this then lose the game where the Chiefs don't feel any better about themselves, but the Giants just couldn't win it. Like, they hung in there, but just aren't good enough to win the game. They lose 27, 21 or something. You're proud of the effort, but the Chiefs are still broken. But the Giants couldn't take advantage of it because they can't win.
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Don Hahn
You might not learn anything from this game like you normally would.
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Nate Taylor
Right.
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Rosenberg
Because you know, the Giants think there's.
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Don Hahn
An upset to be had. I'm not saying it happened, but it's there. It's there. They have weaknesses, man.
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Rosenberg
Because he never said, you know, super bowl loss, hangover. He didn't even really buy into the, the injury. Right. Oh, because they got. Just because he's coming back doesn't mean it's gonna all of a sudden get better.
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Don Hahn
We're worthy, Xavier. Worthy. Yeah.
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Rosenberg
So he wasn't making these excuses. He was talking about how this team might be broken and they still have enough talent that they'll win games. They're not going to go 00:17, you know, but they might be. This might be a 9, 10 win team that has to settle for a wild card or maybe, just maybe not make it. Peter. It became, it felt like a joke after a while, but how many times did I say last year I think this Chiefs team could be had, but because they have a heart of a champion, they find a way to still win the game.
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Don Hahn
Great quarterback and a smart coach, but.
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Rosenberg
So really the holes were showing last year, but now, but now the holes are too big for the heart of a champion to overcome.
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Don Hahn
Well, and Kelsey's really starting to show, like again, when you have like, like the Brady Gronk thing, it's like Gronk always came up with a huge play when you need it. Maybe didn't put up the numbers right, but Brady always knew the safety, the security blanket was always there when I needed it. Kelsey in the first two games has.
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Rosenberg
Not been that, but they just took on if the charges are for real and the Philadelphia Eagles are the defending champions, they didn't lose to nobody. And they weren't blown out.
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Don Hahn
No.
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Peter
You know, not in either game.
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Rosenberg
In the air.
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Nate Taylor
So.
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Peter
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's guys, that, that was my only point is that it's not off the table, that they don't destroy the Giants.
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Don Hahn
It's not off the table.
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Peter
That's absolutely.
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Don Hahn
Here's one thing. If you, if you, if you could put your money down on the Chiefs getting their first turnover, the defense getting its first turnover of the season.
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Peter
Oh, you love it. Oh, come on.
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Don Hahn
I mean, right?
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Peter
Russell Wilson might have one punch.
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Don Hahn
That's 10,000.
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Peter
Yeah. You're telling me there's no chance that Russell Wilson just decides to heave 150.
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Don Hahn
Yard might have sent up yell that.
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Peter
Might ollie ollie oxen free.
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Rosenberg
If I had to guess what's the spread because I haven't looked at it yet.
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Don Hahn
It's six and a half.
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Rosenberg
It's not. It's under a touchdown.
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Don Hahn
Yeah. I think it was seven and a half a chance this will be.
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Peter
Think about what they're saying though. Under six and a half in New York. Think about what that's really saying.
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Rosenberg
Which would be, you know what? I guess in a neutral site. Yeah, it's. It's not good. But I would not be surprised if.
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Don Hahn
It'S.
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Rosenberg
Close to a close adjacent game. Like I don't think the Giants are going to get computed.
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Peter
That was, that was a mouthful.
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Rosenberg
No, no, no.
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Don Hahn
17 like mid fourth.
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Rosenberg
Like I would not be surprised if it goes the way it did against the Commanders. Like the Commanders. It was a 146 game and then. And then the Commanders put it away with a touchdown. So it wasn't a blowout, but it wasn't that close. Like something like that where, you know, I think the Giants will get points.
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Don Hahn
So you're, you're.
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Peter
I could, I want to be clear. I could see the Giants winning this game. I'm not. I agree with what everyone's saying. There, there is a road to victory.
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Don Hahn
There's a road here.
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Peter
Yeah, there is. There is also just a world in which what Don just said was true. And you have, you have a still pretty good Chiefs team that lost to two of the better teams in the league and gets right against the Giants who look more like they did week one than week two. Because that's on the table.
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Rosenberg
Also, the reason it's hard to fathom them winning the game is because at some point you're going to have to make a play against a championship caliber team and the Giants don't do that.
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Don Hahn
Yeah, they don't have a pass rush, but their secondary is way better than the secondary.
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Rosenberg
I've seen them hang with good teams before and just not be able to get it done. But we'll see. It should be a lot of fun.
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Peter
Be he's not cool. His voice is weird. He's kind of a dork. His brother's a tool. His girlfriend's annoying.
- [27:22]
Nate Taylor
That guy.
- [27:23]
Dabo Swinney
I didn't know it was banner night. We won't be out for that.
- [27:26]
Don Hahn
It's time for that Guy Thursday. Hey guys. Anyone want to play some ball with Don Han and Rosenberg?
- [27:32]
Rosenberg
He's just being that guy. Then Peter Stuart. So right. It's the best open of anything that we.
- [27:37]
Don Hahn
It is really good.
- [27:37]
Peter
What's better than that?
- [27:38]
Rosenberg
It is really terrific because it's that Guy Thursday and it's driven by Ramsey Mazda. And Alan has assured me he's got.
- [27:44]
Don Hahn
An interesting well, does anybody else have one that's sports related? Because mine's not sports related. No, we don't have any of that. Guys, I don't like Anthony, didn't you have something? Anthony has something.
- [27:57]
Rosenberg
I love it.
- [27:57]
Don Hahn
What do you have? Anthony, go ahead.
- [27:59]
Rosenberg
Sorry, Peter, you go.
- [28:00]
Peter
No, no, it's okay. No, I want to.
- [28:02]
Don Hahn
I want to hear yours does anybody else have Anthony really loud in their ears?
- [28:05]
Peter
Very loud.
- [28:06]
Don Hahn
They've tried to fix the. Anthony aggressive on the mic.
- [28:10]
Rosenberg
Shake your fanny over here and sit in here. Get on a camera like an absolute gentleman. Get in his studio. Sit down. You're gonna contribute to the show.
- [28:18]
Don Hahn
Sentence on camera.
- [28:20]
Rosenberg
Move.
- [28:21]
Don Hahn
Santiago's on camera.
- [28:23]
Peter
Hold on. You went from Nice, that Don, that you wanted him there to now you're.
- [28:26]
Rosenberg
You're screaming because he hasn't flinched since I requested it.
- [28:29]
Don Hahn
Now, now I want to stay right here.
- [28:30]
Rosenberg
He really hasn't even flinched, Peter. That's why I was getting angered, because he's not listening.
- [28:35]
Don Hahn
He's unnerved. Well, I'll say this.
- [28:37]
Rosenberg
Oh, boy.
- [28:38]
Peter
Don, by the way, you keep moving further and further out of our.
- [28:40]
Rosenberg
Well, I'm sorry. I'm doing my job, okay? And I'm a.
- [28:44]
Peter
Move. Another job is beyond camera because guess what? You're not on today. The radio.
- [28:48]
Don Hahn
Another reason.
- [28:49]
Peter
Get out the damn. Peter.
- [28:51]
Don Hahn
Another reason why I have to stay right where I am.
- [28:53]
Rosenberg
Which way am I supposed to go?
- [28:54]
Peter
Other way. I'll take you other way.
- [28:56]
Don Hahn
Wait a second. I saw this morning. They had a four shot going. Yes, they do. It was fantastic. Jacob Perry needs to be on camera. People need to see.
- [29:05]
Rosenberg
You know what? We also need people that want to be a part of a team.
- [29:08]
Peter
And you're saying he doesn't want.
- [29:10]
Don Hahn
3, 2, 1. Let's be good.
- [29:11]
Rosenberg
Peter, he hasn't even moved. No one can move that anger.
- [29:14]
Peter
You now hear what you're saying. It's tough, but.
- [29:17]
Don Hahn
All right. Well, does someone have.
- [29:19]
Peter
I know. Anthony. Give us what it was, please. Here we go.
- [29:22]
Don Hahn
So we love our college coaches. Oh, and Brian Kelly.
- [29:25]
Rosenberg
I love.
- [29:25]
Peter
You mean hate them.
- [29:26]
Don Hahn
Well, yes, this was part of ENN yesterday, but Ian was very robust yesterday. We didn't get a chance to get to it.
- [29:33]
Peter
Yeah, very busted.
- [29:35]
Don Hahn
Yes. Clemson is 1 and 2 not having the greatest season 4 shot. There it is.
- [29:42]
Peter
You're talking dabo.
- [29:43]
Don Hahn
Oh, when dabo and dabo. You know dabo. He's reading the chat. You know, he's hearing everything. So in his media availability this week, dabo said this.
- [29:54]
Dabo Swinney
If they want me gone, if they tired of winning, they can send me on the way because that's all we've done is win. So if they tired of winning, we've had. We've won this league eight out of the last 10 years. Is that not good? I'm just asking, is that good? I don't know if that's good or not. To win your league. Eight out of 10 years to go to the playoffs. Seven out of 10 years. Be in four national championships. Win it twice. Yeah, we've gone down right now. Take your shots. But I got a long memory that y' all don't know.
- [30:13]
Nate Taylor
We'll be all right.
- [30:14]
Dabo Swinney
We'll bounce back. This is a program built to last. Always has been, always will be. And I would just say if you give up on us after, if you don't believe on us, because we've lost two games down to the last trade, and we're one, you didn't believe in us anyway, so it don't matter. You went all in anyway. If you're all in, you burn the ships, man. You ain't no. There ain't no exit strategy like you're freaking all in. And, hey, listen. I mean, Simpson's tired of winning. They send me on my way, but I'm gonna go somewhere else. And coach.
- [30:38]
Rosenberg
I ain't going to the beach.
- [30:39]
Dabo Swinney
I'm 55. I got a long way to go. Y' all deal with me for a while. Long way to go. I'm just getting going. I'm just now good enough to be a head coach.
- [30:47]
Don Hahn
I'm not downing. All he was missing was another one.
- [30:50]
Rosenberg
I like that.
- [30:51]
Don Hahn
I'm not down there. All we do. I don't think anybody's firing Davos.
- [30:54]
Peter
No.
- [30:55]
Rosenberg
No. But I enjoyed that, though.
- [30:57]
Don Hahn
So he's not being that guy.
- [30:59]
Rosenberg
No, I guess he's being that guy. But I enjoyed it.
- [31:02]
Don Hahn
I kind of liked it, too, because sometimes you can enjoy being that guy. Wait, what league is that again? Acc. In what sport?
- [31:09]
Peter
Football.
- [31:10]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [31:11]
Nate Taylor
Yeah, football.
- [31:12]
Don Hahn
Look, it's not what it used to be. Florida State is what I'm saying. Like, I don't know if I'd be bragging about how many conference championships you have in a conference that's about basketball, But I do like. I don't. I don't find that to be a that guy at all. Do you?
- [31:26]
Peter
No. There was that guy.
- [31:28]
Don Hahn
There wasn't that guy in there.
- [31:29]
Rosenberg
But in a positive.
- [31:30]
Peter
I don't know, is that good? Is it good to make it?
- [31:33]
Don Hahn
All we do is win. I still.
- [31:36]
Peter
Whenever he calls, it's Ricky Bobby as a head coach.
- [31:39]
Don Hahn
He gave you a program. When you give me program, I'm all in. Nothing is more college football than calling it a program.
- [31:45]
Peter
Oh, it's program. Damn right it's a program.
- [31:47]
Don Hahn
Damn right it's a program. All we do is win. You don't like winning, you're bored with winning.
- [31:52]
Peter
So mine. Mine if you're bored of winning, have all dabo take out dabo. Sounds familiar to me when I hear him. Yeah, he does remind me of another coach. Like here with my family. Him too.
- [32:05]
Don Hahn
So crazy.
- [32:06]
Peter
They're all so similar.
- [32:08]
Rosenberg
He's a cleaned up Kiki cleaned up key.
- [32:15]
Peter
Now, now, mine is just a suggestion, all right?
- [32:19]
Don Hahn
Suggesting that guy.
- [32:21]
Peter
Well, because the that Guy Thursday intro can't get any better. Except, oh, as this thing. And I think I'll get a vote from Don and Alan. I think everyone will be on board as this thing grows. And what I should say is, and they hire someone to produce our video. But let me be realistic. And they force Anthony to do more and more video production. If we get visual intros of our segments. I believe the main person featured in that Guy Thursday needs to be a modern day present video of Cam Newton. What are your thoughts? Oh, he's the logo for that guy. He is the Jerry West.
- [33:03]
Rosenberg
Can we get guys, that Guy Thursday had a Twitter handle. That would be the avatar.
- [33:08]
Don Hahn
What if we got graphics joker to make us like a cartoon version of that?
- [33:17]
Peter
I mean, I think we need actual animation.
- [33:19]
Don Hahn
You think? Well, look, with AI you can do anything.
- [33:22]
Peter
That's right.
- [33:22]
Don Hahn
And it doesn't have to be accurate.
- [33:24]
Peter
Including get a best friend therapist, apparently. Anyways, yes. My all is just that every time I see Cam Newton, I just go.
- [33:32]
Don Hahn
That guy is that guy.
- [33:33]
Peter
Every time I see him, every outfit, right. As he puts his shirt on inside out, sticks his hair through the hole in his hat and looks like Boss Hog. I think this guy is that guy. All right, what do you got, Alex?
- [33:45]
Don Hahn
I've got this. And we've all, I think, lived this at some point in life, but there's something about. And I'm sure it's on the Garden State Parkway as well, but on the Long Island Expressway. This is the thing. And you're being that guy. And I went through it over the weekend. What is Don and Peter, what's the technically, what's the left lane for Passing. That's the passing lane, right. So are you being that guy when you're sitting almost in cruise control doing like the speed limits? 55, but we all know plus 10. But still you're sitting steady at whether it's 55 or 65. You're sitting steady, line of cars behind you, couple of trucks to the right. So it's not as easy to use as a passing lane. Which means now everybody uses the middle lane as the passing lane because of that guy. So if you are the one that's just sitting there, defiant, going, nope, not moving. I know everybody else and the pace of traffic wants to go faster, but I'm not doing it. I'm not getting out of the way. You're going to have to go around me when technically, that's the passing lane.
- [34:57]
Rosenberg
Right.
- [34:58]
Don Hahn
You're making me use the middle lane to pass you. You're being that guy. There should be a law.
- [35:03]
Rosenberg
There ought to be a law.
- [35:04]
Don Hahn
Ought to be a law. But if I'm sitting. I'm a traffic cop. I'm sitting, you know, hiding in the bushes, watching traffic, making sure everybody's behaving. If I see that guy, I'm pulling him over. Was I speeding, sir? No, you weren't. You were just being that guy.
- [35:19]
Rosenberg
My father.
- [35:20]
Don Hahn
And you should get a ticket for being that guy because you could cause an accident.
- [35:24]
Rosenberg
That's right.
- [35:24]
Don Hahn
Having everybody lining up and everybody getting mad. And somebody has to jump out of that lane to try to get around you. And then you know. You know what that guy does? Don Peter speeds up. Now you're really being that guy.
- [35:35]
Rosenberg
Now you're definitely.
- [35:36]
Don Hahn
So how many of us can relate to. Have you ever been that guy?
- [35:39]
Rosenberg
My father got pulled over for being in the left lane too long.
- [35:45]
Don Hahn
Too long.
- [35:46]
Rosenberg
He got. Because there was nobody on the road and he was. He just stayed in the left lane and they pulled him over for Connecticut.
- [35:53]
Don Hahn
They do that.
- [35:53]
Rosenberg
Yeah. So. But not. But he wasn't being that guy. Just he.
- [35:56]
Don Hahn
Well, there was nobody around. I'm talking about when you're holding everybody up.
- [35:58]
Rosenberg
Here is. This is just my little tidbit, my own rule.
- [36:02]
Don Hahn
Okay.
- [36:02]
Rosenberg
I got no problem if you want to hang in the passing lane, but on a highway, you better at least be doing north of 70.
- [36:12]
Don Hahn
Oh, yeah.
- [36:13]
Rosenberg
Not at speed limit.
- [36:14]
Nate Taylor
You would have.
- [36:14]
Rosenberg
Speed limit. Then you're that guy.
- [36:15]
Don Hahn
Keep it moving.
- [36:16]
Rosenberg
I want to go to speed limit. But now I'm riding. Riding right behind you. If you want to go 80, go ahead, because I'm good.
- [36:22]
Don Hahn
But don't you agree that if somebody's behind you and they are trying to go faster than you? Just get out of the way.
- [36:28]
Rosenberg
Just get out of the way.
- [36:29]
Don Hahn
Especially if they give you the little flash. All right. You know, like, some people get mad, like, I'm not moving. No, just get away.
- [36:35]
Peter
It's like a weird. It's like a weird ego thing.
- [36:38]
Don Hahn
Yes.
- [36:39]
Peter
That they don't want to admit. Like there's something that makes them feel like, like invalid. Like they're less of a man because they're Getting passed, guys. Sometimes I'm not driving fast. I move over past me.
- [36:52]
Don Hahn
I don't feel like going fast right now. I'm just cruising.
- [36:54]
Peter
I'm not rushing. Go ahead, buddy. I. I see you are really hyped to go somewhere. I have my daughter in my car. I am riding in the middle lane.
- [37:01]
Rosenberg
See you later, bud.
- [37:02]
Don Hahn
Get out of the way. But to sit there and be like, nope, not moving. You have to go around me. You're being that guy.
- [37:08]
Peter
Oh, that's the epitome of that guy. That's Cam Newton's hat.
- [37:11]
Don Hahn
As a driver, that's Cam Newton's hat. So if we're grading that guy, Cam Newton's hat.
- [37:16]
Rosenberg
This does feel like a talk about it Tuesday. But I get what you're saying because it is also that guy. Because you're being that guy.
- [37:21]
Don Hahn
You are being that guy. Don't be that guy.
- [37:23]
Rosenberg
And I never got to do my talk about it Tuesday because we ran out of time.
- [37:26]
Don Hahn
Talk about it Thursday.
- [37:27]
Rosenberg
But what I was going to say, and we have a little bit of time for me to do it, is kind of along the same lines.
- [37:32]
Don Hahn
Okay.
- [37:33]
Rosenberg
I drive in some areas in Jersey that are not very well lit. So I get that sometimes you got to put your high beams on. But unless you're a functioning moron, you should realize that when oncoming traffic is coming, be a gentleman or a lady and turn the high beams off. You know how I would say the majority of people that have their high beams on do not turn them off. Just blare you right into your eyes. Do they not know they teach you that when you've learned how to drive?
- [38:06]
Don Hahn
Maybe they forgot. How do you know newer cars automatically just go down.
- [38:11]
Rosenberg
Right?
- [38:11]
Don Hahn
But not everybody's got that.
- [38:13]
Rosenberg
Yeah, but I these.
- [38:13]
Don Hahn
But if you know your beams are, are up, especially when you see the.
- [38:16]
Rosenberg
Little blue light on your dash and you could see. And you know what? I do. All right, but let's just say flashback the purse. The person has some issues and just doesn'.
- [38:24]
Peter
No.
- [38:24]
Don Hahn
Okay.
- [38:26]
Rosenberg
When I give you the little flick, not with my finger. You know what I mean? Like I give you the flash the beams to let you know, and you.
- [38:34]
Peter
Still don't do it. By the way, Don, let me tell you something right now, I do the same thing you're doing. I think we should stop. Number one, they don't listen. And number two, there's like the old wives tale that you'll get caught in some gang initiation and someone's gonna chase you down. I've heard that Just don't flash the lights. Just move on.
- [38:49]
Don Hahn
Do you remember that? That was blow by you. That was an old thing back in the day.
- [38:53]
Nate Taylor
I remember.
- [38:54]
Peter
90S. Yeah.
- [38:54]
Don Hahn
It was in the 90s. If you see a car. Because that was always the courtesy. A car on the other side of the highway with the lights off, you'd flash to say hey, hey, your lights are off. Maybe you don't know.
- [39:03]
Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [39:04]
Don Hahn
And then they're like oh, don't ever do that because they'll follow you. And that became a thing.
- [39:09]
Rosenberg
You know, you're right. But you know, I. I don't know. I don't know what the phobia is. They must have a name for it. I haven't seen a psychologist. But I long to better help.
- [39:21]
Don Hahn
Yeah.
- [39:21]
Rosenberg
Because I have an issue. I am. When I. When I flick the high beams, it's not to have them shut it off. Cuz it's bothering me. I have this affliction where I need to let that person know that he screwed up.
- [39:38]
Don Hahn
Gotcha.
- [39:39]
Rosenberg
Like I feel like a moral imperative in me that I have to let you know that you're not doing it right.
- [39:44]
Don Hahn
Since you can't yell. Hey.
- [39:46]
Rosenberg
Right.
- [39:46]
Don Hahn
The only thing you've got is.
- [39:48]
Rosenberg
All I'm just telling you is I think you're a moron for doing this. I think I need to let them know like I almost want like run, like do a K, turn, chase them down. Just to tell them you're stupid. What is. What do they call that? Peter, You. You go to therapy. Is there something for that? Why can't I let those things go? Like you said, in a half a second the car is going to be down the road.
- [40:10]
Don Hahn
They're out of your life.
- [40:11]
Rosenberg
Didn't bother me that much anyway. It just. What is the affliction?
- [40:15]
Don Hahn
Road rage.
- [40:16]
Rosenberg
What do they call it? When. So. Because it's not just on the road, it's everywhere that when somebody messes up, I have to. I get this absolute urge that I.
- [40:24]
Peter
Can'T scratch to tell them I don't know. Don.
- [40:28]
Don Hahn
Don must be fun. In a supermarket with carts. Busy supermarket with carts. Don must be fun. You could really. You can really make Don crazy.
- [40:37]
Rosenberg
When the person stops at the bottom.
- [40:39]
Peter
Of the escalator to look where they're going.
- [40:41]
Don Hahn
That's. We've seen this.
- [40:42]
Rosenberg
I can't. Even if I dodge them, I still have to turn around and give them a.
- [40:45]
Peter
You're an ass.
- [40:46]
Don Hahn
No, you run. You run right into him.
- [40:47]
Rosenberg
When the person. When I've got a full cart.
- [40:51]
Peter
So according To Google.
- [40:52]
Don Hahn
Yeah, go ahead.
- [40:54]
Peter
Jacob tells us that is a common form of OCD what you're doing.
- [40:58]
Rosenberg
That makes sense.
- [40:59]
Peter
I got a lot of ocd.
- [40:59]
Don Hahn
You have ocd?
- [41:00]
Rosenberg
Yeah, I'm a mess.
- [41:01]
Peter
Is that possible? By the way, here's a that guy. Here's a that guy Thursday in our chat, okay? Right now the ESPN New York YouTube is rocking. If you're listening to us, what are you doing? You can go watch us now.
- [41:15]
Don Hahn
I got a good audience here.
- [41:16]
Peter
Here's David. David says. David's comment is Peter Guns. You go and drive to the studio. There you go. That guy Thursday. Hey, David, how about you go on mindyourbusiness.com goblepe yourself. All right, I got a flight.
- [41:29]
Don Hahn
Hang on. What is it again?
- [41:32]
Peter
It's mindyourbusiness.com/go bleep yourself.
- [41:37]
Rosenberg
But don't use bleep otherwise it's not going to go.
- [41:39]
Don Hahn
It's a work computer.
- [41:41]
Peter
Don't you worry, buddy.
- [41:43]
Don Hahn
Mind your business.
- [41:44]
Rosenberg
These people something because we got it a lot during COVID when they go.
- [41:47]
Don Hahn
To back in the street.
- [41:48]
Rosenberg
Let me. I'm going to want to talk to that person directly. David, David, let's say your boss on a given day because you had something going on or whatever allowed you to work from home, would you say no, no, no, no, no, I'm going to come in the bosses. No, no, listen, you got a flight later or it's a holiday or you're not feeling well or something's going on. Can I. I'm going to let you work from home. Would you say no?
- [42:18]
Peter
No, you say, I'm sorry, I'm going to change my trip. I want. You know why? Because I want David to feel good about where I'm located. I want to get ahead of this. David, just so you know, get ready for it. Tomorrow I'm going to be in Indianapolis.
- [42:30]
Don Hahn
All right?
- [42:31]
Peter
I want everyone to be prepared.
- [42:32]
Rosenberg
No.
- [42:32]
Peter
But then it gets worse. Monday is a very serious Jewish holiday, Rosh Hashanah. I am celebrating the holiday with family. I'm not taking the day off because I'm not that religious, but I have.
- [42:44]
Rosenberg
A holiday around that.
- [42:46]
Peter
Yeah.
- [42:46]
Don Hahn
By the way, are you going to be here with my family on Monday?
- [42:50]
Peter
I'll be with my family. So I'm going to be doing the show. I'll be doing the show for my sister in law's house probably. So I want everyone to know where I'm going to be just in case. I don't want David to get upset about the holiday.
- [43:06]
Don Hahn
It is A thing, though, about wanting us all to be in the same room.
- [43:12]
Peter
By the way, I. The first, like, beginning. I totally get it. And we were together all the time. 89% of the time we're together. Although, watch out, because when Alan and Don start the hockey and the basketball, we gotta gonna have the location watchers. Turn your location on. Where's Alan today? Where's Don today?
- [43:29]
Rosenberg
I'll tell you where I'm gonna be on Tuesday. I'll be at the Rock.
- [43:32]
Peter
That's right. Well, you got another preseason game.
- [43:34]
Rosenberg
Yes. Why don't I just go to the.
- [43:35]
Don Hahn
Rock and hang out with you?
- [43:37]
Peter
You know what? I'm moving to Newark. I want to commit to the show. I'm moving to Newark so we can be together. We just.
- [43:42]
Don Hahn
Why don't we all just. If one of us is at the arena, we all just go to the arena.
- [43:48]
Peter
Well, at msg, I would actually do that. Well, you know what?
- [43:51]
Rosenberg
Let's, let's, let's lift the curtain a little bit. How about the meeting we're supposed to have at 2 o'?
- [43:55]
Peter
Clock?
- [43:55]
Rosenberg
Let's have it at Newark. Oh, does everybody go to Newark?
- [43:58]
Don Hahn
We all go to Newark.
- [43:59]
Rosenberg
I'll let you in. I got in now. I've been living there the last couple.
- [44:04]
Don Hahn
We've been wanting that Devils for years. So finally got.
- [44:07]
Rosenberg
That's it. The meeting. Let the powers that be Anthony know that Tuesday's meeting.
- [44:11]
Peter
By the way, you want to go.
- [44:12]
Rosenberg
To Dinosaur at the Rock.
- [44:13]
Peter
Dinosaur? No, Dinosaur barbecue. Right down the street from the Rock.
- [44:17]
Rosenberg
On me. On me.
- [44:18]
Peter
Hear that?
- [44:19]
Rosenberg
Oh, we've got David.
- [44:20]
Peter
You could come too, fat guy.
- [44:28]
Rosenberg
Thursday by Ramsey Mazda. It's the experience of driving a new Mazda and buying a new Mazda for Ramsey Mazda. Choose wisely. Choose Ramsey Mazda. Don Hanna Rosenberg on espn.
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Peter
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Rosenberg
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Rosenberg
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Dabo Swinney
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Rosenberg
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Dabo Swinney
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Rosenberg
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Dabo Swinney
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Rosenberg
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Dabo Swinney
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Rosenberg
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Dabo Swinney
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Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Peter
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Don Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
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Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
That works perfectly.
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Rosenberg
That worked out well for him.
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Don Hahn
Hey, we're back on 880.
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Rosenberg
Welcome to everybody who's listening to the Mets post game show as the Mets probably beat the Padres by the final score of 6 to 1. Take two out of three from San Diego.
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Don Hahn
Okay, that's not nothing.
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Rosenberg
So just another way to consume us. You got the app, you got 880, and you also have YouTube. So getting.
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Peter
Come on. If you're just getting here, come on over to the YouTube. We're having some fun. By the way. The chat rooms are rocking. So good.
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Don Hahn
Solid viewership, too. You got a lot of people in the chat with you. They're all. The interaction between everyone is great. That's what I do.
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Peter
It's mostly appropriate, you know, most.
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Don Hahn
Well, come on, you.
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Peter
Some people get a line. Got to get slapp.
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Don Hahn
It's all right. We want it to be like that, right? We want.
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Peter
Well, it gets a little feisty, but it's not. But it's a pretty cool place.
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Don Hahn
So did you guys see the Whiteboard Wednesday that we have every week? We do a whiteboard Wednesday. This one, to me has some, like, a bit of controversy. So the question this week was if you were an NFL GM and could start your team with one of these quarterbacks, which one would you. Would it be? And everybody has to sign their name under the quarterback. So the majority of the names were underneath Josh Allen. I think that's pretty obvious. The other choice.
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Peter
Too many, by the way.
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Don Hahn
All right. And then there's. And then Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson have the majority of the rest of the names. The other choices included Joe Burrow, your guy, Jaden Daniels, and I would say.
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Peter
By the way, that Hertz, the last one.
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Don Hahn
And Jalen hurts.
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Peter
He's close to Lamar and Mahomes numbers.
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Nate Taylor
Close.
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Rosenberg
Which is ridiculous.
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Don Hahn
He's got a few. No, not anymore. There's a. There's way more names underneath.
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Peter
Well, how. But how is it ridiculous? I mean.
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Don Hahn
Well, first of all, he should not be on the list.
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Peter
Jalen hurts.
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Rosenberg
No.
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Peter
Why not?
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Don Hahn
If you're a gm, you could start your team with one of these six people. He's the sixth guy you would choose every time.
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Rosenberg
It is true for anyone.
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Don Hahn
I'm trying to see who put their name under here. And it's one, two, three people.
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Rosenberg
Eagle fans.
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Peter
I mean, he's. He did. He did.
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Don Hahn
You can't be. You can't be serious. You're starting your franchise. Peter, that. I'm not trying to kill Jalen. That doesn't make sense.
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Peter
But by the way, this is.
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Don Hahn
Any world that you would choose him over Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, by the way, no one put their name.
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Peter
My biggest problem. My bigger problem is, is God bless Josh Allen. He's really good. Last time I checked, Josh Allen and Joe Burrow have the same number of super bowl wins, and Joe Burrow at least has a Super bowl appearance. He has no votes. Josh Allen has like 15. None for Burrow. How is that?
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Don Hahn
It doesn't make sense.
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Peter
It doesn't make any sense.
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Rosenberg
No, I love.
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Peter
I love Josh Allen. We love Josh. He's really, really good. Really, really exciting. Has a very attractive wife. It's all going well for Josh Allen. He does not. He should not dominate this category.
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Don Hahn
Where'd you put your name, Don? I don't see your name on this.
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Rosenberg
Yeah, I would have put it on Allen or. Or Mahomes. I was. I was trying to back and forth because, you know, I know Mahomes has had the better coach, but Mahomes is really good and beats Josh Allen.
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Don Hahn
He's proven it time and again.
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Rosenberg
But I don't want to get in this conversation with Eagle fans. It's like, listen, he's great and he's a Super bowl mvp. I'm not going to kill Jake for putting him. I get. I get it. But if I'm starting an NFL franchise, if I have Jalen Hurts as my quarterback, I am going to have to really have a great offensive line. I'm going to have to get some weapons here. I'm going to have to think of all the talent Philadelphia has to make it work, and he makes it work, and he's a winner. But I'll have to do less with my roster if I've got Allen and Mahomes as my quarterback.
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Don Hahn
You have to make a case. You have to make a case for how you would make that choice. The Eagles fan. All you have to tell the Eagles fan, if you could. In a crazy world, the Chiefs are like, we're blowing it up. We're moving Mahomes. We'll trade you. Mahomes for Jalen Hurts. You're like, nah, we're all set.
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Nate Taylor
You're crazy.
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Rosenberg
Of course you take the only way Jalen Hurts could get some votes is if the question was if you had to win a game.
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Don Hahn
Yeah, I'll give you that because he's.
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Rosenberg
Won a Super bowl mvp. So I'm not saying he should win of the people that you would have Mahomes too. But if we want to kill Josh Allen because he hasn't won the big game yet, at least he did go to Kansas city and win Jackson's won MVPs but can't win nothing in the playoffs, that'd be a different story. But starting a franchise? Kooky.
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Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to my Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.
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