Hour 2: Peter Schrager & The List

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Episode "Hour 2: Peter Schrager & The List"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg
• Host/Author: ESPN New York, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, and guest Peter Schrager
• Episode: Hour 2: Peter Schrager & The List
• Release Date: April 16, 2025
• Description: Featuring Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg, this episode delves into New York sports and beyond with insights from sportswriter Peter Schrager.

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1. Introduction and Guest Welcome

The episode begins with a brief advertisement before the hosts reintroduce the show. Alan Hahn welcomes listeners to the "Don Hahn and Rosenberg" podcast, followed by a lively exchange with Peter Rosenberg expressing excitement for the episode.

Notable Quote:

• Alan Hahn [00:23]: "This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast."
• Peter Rosenberg [00:27]: "That sounds like heaven to me."

2. NFL Draft Analysis with Peter Schrager

Peter Schrager joins the hosts to discuss the NFL draft, focusing on the New York Giants' potential picks and strategies. The conversation centers on whether the Giants should select Abdul Carter with their third overall pick, considering the team's existing defensive strength.

Key Points:

• Giants' Defensive Depth: The Giants already boast strong defensive players like Dexter Lawrence and Brian Burns, raising questions about drafting another defensive lineman.
• Alternative Picks: Schrager suggests that Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter are premier prospects worth the third pick, arguing that Carter’s versatility justifies his selection despite potential redundancy.
• Mock Draft Insights: Schrager highlights the challenges and misinformation in mock drafts, emphasizing that Abdul Carter is a valuable addition who can enhance the Giants' defensive schemes.

Notable Quotes:

• Peter Schrager [02:10]: "...Abdul Carter is now... he could add versatility that fits well with our existing defense."
• Peter Rosenberg [04:30]: "But you don't pass on Lawrence Taylor."

3. Giants' Quarterback Situation

The discussion shifts to the Giants' quarterback options, including Shador Sanders, Jalen Milroe, and Tyler Schuck. Schrager examines the implications of the Giants potentially targeting a quarterback later in the first round or the second round, given their current defensive focus.

Key Points:

• Quarterback Rankings: Shador Sanders is considered a strong contender but remains uncertain in the draft order.
• Contract Considerations: Schrager explains the strategic moves teams make regarding draft positions and contract lengths, referencing past trades like the Ravens' acquisition of Lamar Jackson.
• Family Influence: The episode touches on how family ties, such as Shador Sanders being Dion’s son, might influence his draft performance and marketability.

Notable Quotes:

• Peter Schrager [05:29]: "If Shador Sanders is taken late in the first round, it could change the dynamics for other teams."
• Peter Schrager [07:35]: "I think it's possible, guys."

4. Draft Predictions and Mel Kiper’s Rankings

Schrager and Rosenberg discuss Mel Kiper’s draft rankings, particularly contrasting Shador Sanders with other quarterbacks. They debate the accuracy and influence of Kiper’s opinions on Sanders' draft prospects.

Key Points:

• Mel Kiper’s Preference: Kiper ranks Shador Sanders ahead of Cam Ward, emphasizing Sanders’ intangible qualities over physical attributes.
• Draft Rituals: The hosts speculate on how candidates and their families manage media presence and draft announcements, highlighting Sanders’ reluctance to be in the limelight.

Notable Quotes:

• Mel Kiper [16:32]: "I think there's a significant gap for me personally between Shador and Dart."
• Peter Schrager [17:18]: "It's never ordinary. At bet365.”

5. Transition to Knicks and Playoffs Discussion

The conversation transitions to the New York Knicks' performance in the playoffs. Jacob Anthony expresses his nervousness about the upcoming series against the Detroit Pistons, citing concerns over team depth and key player performances.

Key Points:

• Knicks’ Playoff Readiness: Anthony voices worries about the team’s readiness, particularly in the absence of Brunson and reliance on players like Delon Wright and Tyler Kolek.
• Pistons’ Threat: The Pistons are highlighted as a formidable opponent with young, aggressive players like Isaiah Stewart posing significant challenges.
• Bench Depth: Concerns are raised about the Knicks' bench being thin and the heavy reliance on specific players to perform under playoff pressure.

Notable Quotes:

• Jacob Anthony [10:42]: "I'm nervous about game one Saturday. The Pistons scare me."
• Peter Schrager [13:05]: "This is why you made these trades. It's time for the stars to be stars."

6. WrestleMania Top Five List

The episode features a segment where Dave Rothenberg shares his top five WrestleMania events, blending nostalgia with contemporary analysis. He ranks WrestleMania 38 as his fifth choice, highlighting key matches and memorable moments, and culminates with WrestleMania 3 as his all-time favorite.

Key Points:

• WrestleMania 38: Celebrated for Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar, Mr. McMahon's final appearance, and Logan Paul's debut match.
• WrestleMania 14 and 18: Praised for iconic moments such as Shawn Michaels vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin with Mike Tyson as referee, and Hulk Hogan vs. The Rock.
• WrestleMania 19 and 3: Recognized for its impact on wrestling culture and significant matches, with WrestleMania 3 being lauded for the legendary Hogan vs. Andre the Giant showdown.

Notable Quotes:

• Dave Rothenberg [23:07]: "WrestleMania 3 is still the greatest event of all time for me."
• Peter Schrager [32:22]: "It changed everything. Without that event, Vince McMahon really bet a lot of the business."

7. Social Media and Event Promotions

The hosts engage in light-hearted banter about upcoming events and personal appearances related to WrestleMania, including Rothenberg’s excitement about hosting the red carpet and interviewing major wrestling personalities like Cody Rhodes.

Key Points:

• Event Coverage: Rothenberg discusses his role in covering WrestleMania weekend, including live interviews and hosting duties.
• Audience Engagement: The hosts encourage listeners to follow their social media for live updates and exclusive content during the WrestleMania events.

Notable Quotes:

• Dave Rothenberg [25:09]: "I'll be on First Take interviewing Cody Rhodes with Stephen A."
• Peter Schrager [26:34]: "Everything airs live on YouTube so it's easy to watch and grab all of it now."

8. Closing Remarks and Future Topics

The episode wraps up with discussions about upcoming sports events, including MLB games and the Stanley Cup playoffs. The hosts tease future episodes and encourage listeners to subscribe and engage with their content.

Key Points:

• Upcoming Games: Brief mentions of the Yankees closing their series with the Royals and the Devils hosting the Red Wings.
• Listener Interaction: The hosts acknowledge and respond to listener comments and questions, fostering a community feel.
• Final Advertisements: Brief promotions for sponsors like Tullamore Do Irish Whiskey and BetterHelp, followed by humorous attempts by Rothenberg to make major announcements without success.

Notable Quotes:

• Peter Rosenberg [40:42]: "Disgusted."
• Dave Rothenberg [41:52]: "I have a major announcement at 5:00."

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Conclusion

In this episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg," the hosts and guest Peter Schrager deliver an engaging and in-depth discussion on the NFL draft, focusing on the New York Giants' strategies and potential quarterback picks. The conversation seamlessly transitions to the Knicks' playoff prospects and culminates with a nostalgic yet analytical look at WrestleMania's greatest events. The hosts maintain a lively and personable atmosphere, blending serious sports analysis with humor and personal anecdotes, making the episode both informative and entertaining for listeners.

Additional Notable Timestamps:

• [02:10] – Discussion on Giants' draft strategy
• [05:29] – Giants' quarterback considerations
• [10:42] – Knicks' playoff anxieties
• [23:07] – Introduction to WrestleMania Top Five
• [32:05] – Personal anecdotes about WrestleMania 3
• [41:06] – Final thoughts on sports events

Listeners interested in comprehensive sports analysis, particularly around New York teams and major sporting events, will find this episode rich with insights and lively banter.

Transcript

[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Alan Hahn]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 Eastern, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

[Peter Schrager]

All right into the 4 o'clock hour we go with Don Lagra and Peter rosenberg. I'm Alan Hahn. 800 now 193776 to the calls. We'll get you there. Mets and the Twins are now tied. We into the bottom of the ninth with two outs, but yet a runner on second. Diaz is pitching for the Mets here. Obviously not a safe situation. So we'll just keep an eye on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This curious on the road. You brought it up to me during.

[Peter Schrager]

The break, so we'll discuss, we'll see where this goes, but we'll keep you posted. Certainly on that. But into a football conversation we go or continue at least after Joe Shane spoke today telling us a lot of things about the Giants and their draft situation on get up this morning, we boy, we had a crew in on the NFL side of things and one of the guys is one of our new faces here. It's a phase everybody knows, but now part of our team at espn, that's Peter Schrager, who's kind enough to give us a few minutes and join us right here on the show, making his debut.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Welcome.

[Peter Schrager]

What's up, Shregs?

[Jacob Anthony]

Guys, what's up? Fired up to be with you and Alan was cool kicking it today. And Peter, Don, big fan of both of your work. So this is cool for me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you. Right back at you.

[Peter Schrager]

But let's get it started on the Giants stuff here since we were just talking about it and you guys, I know, talked about it a lot. There are fans, believe it or not, Peter in New York that even argued with a legend like Carl Banks on why the Giants shouldn't take Abdul Carter at 3 because it's redundant. You already have a guy like Burns, you this and that. Like it seems like an obvious thing for them to do and it seems like he's probably like 95% going to be there at the 3 pick. What are you hearing? What do you know about that?

[Jacob Anthony]

I go back to week 16 and Malik Neighbors goes for about 200 yards and the Giants beat the Colts. And in a lot of ways, it was this cool moment for Giants fans. All right, look, Neighbors is a stud and we've got some talent here, but it knocked them out of contention for that first pick. I think they would have taken Cam Wardens in the first pick. I truly believe that would have been the selection. But they don't have an option right now to get him. He's going to be gone in the first pick. The thought is that Travis Hunter goes to or Abdul Carter goes to. I believe, and I've said this all along, and here's where I'm kind of hamstrung by the whole mock draft industry. I talk to every team a lot. I do, and it's my job and I take a lot of pride in that. I'm pretty plugged in for the local teams, too. And at no point, at no point was I one of these guys is out there being like, well, Shador is going two or three. And I was always. There are three blue chip prospects in this draft. Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter and Ashton Genti, the running back who would not go third overall. If the Giants could get one of these two guys, Hunter or Carter, that is the decision that probably will be made. Now. They look at their team and this is from sources within the Giants organization. They look at their team and they think the strength of their team is up front. So that is not wrong that this might look redundant. That said, if you can add an Abdul Carter to a defense that already has Dexter Lawrence, who might be the game's best defensive tackle, Kevon Thibodeau, who's a young up and coming pass rusher who we're hoping has a big leap this season, and Brian Burns, who's been established as one of the best pass rushers in the sport. You have a strength, you have something that you can lean on. They added to the defensive backfield already this offseason with the two players and in Pawson Obito, and then of course, the safety Javon Holland, and then you got Russell and Jamis to kind of hold the fort. And then you maybe get a quarterback later in the first round if you trade back in or the second round, that to me is nothing. Is not crazy. Passing on Shador Sanders is not crazy. And if I'm a Giants fan, I'm doing flips. If you have Abdul Carter in the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Building and I'm old enough to remember 1981, when the Giants selected Lawrence Taylor, they had tons of linebackers they didn't need a linebacker. But, you know, you don't pass on Lawrence Taylor. Is Carter at that kind of ilk, where, yeah, we got a lot of defensive linemen, but you know what? Can't pass on this kind of talent.

[Jacob Anthony]

They passed on Micah Parsons a few years ago. They traded back. They ended up getting Kadarius Tony in that draft. And I think that's one of the original sins of this Giants team. That and paying Daniel Jones. And that's where you're at at this point. You don't have, you know, to look back and say, well, we. We missed on Josh Allen. You took Saquon. That wasn't the worst decision in the world at the time. It didn't work out. Whatever it is, you can't pass on the same type of player. And that is what Abdul Carter is now. I can't say he's gonna be as good as Michael Parsons, but he asked to be moved this year so he could show his versatility. He played defensive end, he could play off the ball, linebacker. He could do a lot of different things. And it's, It's. It's unanimous across the board. Every GM I talked to, it says two guys, Hunter and Carter. And then if you need a running back, this guy Genti could be the best of all of them. So those are three premier players. You have the third overall pick. Unless you're trading back. I don't think it's a redundancy to take an Abdul Carter because you don't have a special talent like him who can move all over the chessboard.

[Peter Schrager]

Shregs, what do you then make of the Giants last minute having workouts and no more private workouts with Shador Sanders, with Jalen Milroe, with Tyler Schuck, three quarterbacks that more than. I mean, they're not going to take him at 3. Does it indicate a move up into the later part of the first round or, you know, something that they would want to do to start the second round? It seems like they still will be targeting a quarterback. It's just not necessarily that three pick.

[Jacob Anthony]

It very well could. And I don't think it's crazy to think that One of those four quarterbacks would be there at 34. And it's not crazy to think that all of those quarterbacks could be there at 34. Or if you want to trade back into the first round, if you really like one, the conventional thinking is Shador Sanders will go in the top 10. I don't have a team for him right Now I everyone assumes New Orleans Raiders, Raiders, they just signed Geno Smith to a deal. They look at Geno to be the quarterback of the future, like for the, for the near term, the short term. And they have a sixth overall pick. They're not looking to take a quarterback. So it's interesting. Shador could slide or I could be wrong and he can go like you said, six to the Raiders, seven to the jets, nine to the Saints. And I'll put my hand up and say, gosh, I from all my intel that did not go that way and I've been surprised before but 34 is a really nice pick and if you want to trade up so you get the guy for a fifth year and you want to get a quarterback where it's different. If you take them at 34, you got only a four year contract. You take them at 32, you get them for five years. And that's why the Ravens traded up to get lamar Jackson at 32. It's why the Vikings traded up to get Teddy Bridgewater at 32. You move into the first round, you get an ext year on the contract where you could pay them the rookie deal. That's conventional thinking. And one of those guys will be there for the second round pick for sure. Is there someone they really like? Well, they're going to take all their do their time and their due diligence to see if, if there's someone they love. And a lot of the times with this, this final workout is to just check the box like we know we like them. We just want to meet them one more time to make sure the Giants are doing that. I respect it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So when you're saying all the quarterback you think there's a world in which Sanders is there at 34, I'd be very surprised. But he could still sink pretty deep into the first round though.

[Jacob Anthony]

I think it's possible, guys.

[Peter Schrager]

I mean that's interesting and that's. That's been kind of the whisper. If you could felt this the whole even though everybody has mocked him high.

[Jacob Anthony]

A lot of tension, a lot of tension with this because of multiple reasons. One, we've been wrong before and said, oh, quarterback isn't going to go that high. And then you have egg on your face. Everyone was telling you Shador, you don't want to go. Dion is a huge presence in our world, a huge presence in football world. Dion obviously is one of the greatest players of all time. But he worked at NFL Network for many years. He worked at CBS for many years. He has relationships around the league. Who wants to be the guy to say, I think Chidor Sanders is going to sink like a stone? I don't think it's going to happen, but I think there's a possibility that Cam Ward goes one, and then it's a game of chicken and it's like, who's going to take the next quarterback? And if he falls past the saints at 9, I don't know. Another, I mean, 21 to me, would be the bookend, it would be the backstop. But if the Steelers like someone better, well, then I don't have another team that's in that first round that's like, we have to have a quarterback in the first round.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So in your eyes, Peter, like, what's the. What's the real deal on Shador? Like, we've gotten such mixed signals on what he could be. And you're saying there's a chance a team would decide this could be our guy, but other teams who need a quarterback would stare him right in the face and say, I'm good. How do you essentially view Shadors talent?

[Jacob Anthony]

Yeah, this is, this is the problem with the draft process because not. Not. It's like not every one size fits all. I say it's like Baskin Robbins. You got 31 flavors, you got different quarterbacks. So, like, one guy might look at a quarterback and say, that's not our type of guy, or that's not my type of offense I want to run. Another one would say, oh, I love it. What Shador brings is incredible anticipation, great poise, awesome leadership. These are more like the intangible stuff. It's not the Anthony Richardson, you know, giant body and 4, 340 that wows everyone and forces the Colts to take them fourth overall. It's not the Trey Lance, where it's like, oh, my gosh, he can run the 4, 3 40, but he also can throw it. It's not Zach Wilson, where he's going to throw that ball at the pro. That stuff is what's tantalizing. Door doesn't have that, doesn't pop off tape. What he has is like more of a Drew Brees, more of a Baker Mayfield, where it's. It's not the physical ability. It's more of, oh, gosh, he's running around behind a terrible offensive line and he's still making the play and he's still throwing the pass. It's hard to put that on paper. Okay, well, that's. That's what I'm going to bank with. It's much Easier to bank on the freakish athletic ability, even if you're way off. And the guy doesn't have the same numbers and the same career at college.

[Peter Schrager]

All right, I wanted to give you an opportunity because you had so much passion about it, and we were on the set together this morning about the Knicks. So give me a prediction of what you see in this series coming up with the Pistons and how you're feeling as a Knicks fan.

[Jacob Anthony]

I'm nervous as hell, guys. I'm nervous because the last 10 games of the season, it's like, I know we didn't have Brunson, so we're watching a lot of Delon Wright, and we're watching a lot of, you know, Tyler Kolek. We're watching. So I don't. I don't have this vision of them recently of, like, humming at all parts. And now it's, okay, here comes the playoff. Suddenly we're going to turn it on. I'm worried about game one Saturday. Like, come out of the gates. The last time we saw the Pistons was a couple days ago, and I know we didn't have the full team, but it was like, all right, that team scares me. They're young, they talk a lot of smack, they're tough. This Isaiah Stewart seems like a nightmare to deal with. And it's. We made all these moves. We had such a good first few months of the season, and now it's the playoffs and it's like, all right, we're just going to snap our fingers. And Brunson and Cat and Bridges, it's all going to work. Guys, I'm being honest. I'm nervous about this first round series, and I'm on these ESPN shows this week, and Alan, you're there, and it's like, you know, if they don't get past the Celtics or the Cavs, it's a disappointment. I'm like, tough as the Cavs. Let's beat the Pistons. The Pistons scare me. Am I the only one voicing that opinion?

[Dave Rothenberg]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a lot of fans.

[Peter Schrager]

You sound like a lot. What? A lot of fans.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, a lot of fans. They should scare you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, are you one of those fans that if they were to lose to the Pistons, you'd want Tibbs gone?

[Peter Schrager]

Oh, don't say it. Don't say it, Shrek.

[Jacob Anthony]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Because I'm looking at a roster of the last few weeks, and it's like we're asking, you know, Shamet to score 20 a game, and we're asking you know, big moments we have. We have guys that have not been asked to campaign is being asked to lead us, you know, to score. It's. It's going to come down to these big new acquisitions, like, this is the moves we traded all these draft picks from. Mikhail Bridges have a ton of playoff experience, but we're asking him, like, you need to be. You need to step up. So I am not going to blame Tibbs. I think the roster looks great going into the playoffs, but, gosh, is that bench thin. And that's nothing against the players that were asked to do a lot over the last month of the season. But we can't be asking for big minutes out of, you know, Shamet and Kolek here in the playoffs and asking them to lead us. No way.

[Peter Schrager]

No. This is why you made these trades. It's time for the stars to be stars. You're going to be there Saturday.

[Jacob Anthony]

Step up. Yes, step up. I mean, I love you in the regular season, but this is why we brought you in here. No more. And this. This. This Pistons team, they're tough around the rim, and they're angry and they're mean, and it's like, all right, Cat, that's. Let's see that side of you if you got it, because you are. If he can bring it, like, guys, this guy could be a legend in New York.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah, I think he knows it. You're going to be there Saturday. You got all this draft coverage to do.

[Jacob Anthony]

I'll be there. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna see if I can get there Saturday, 6 o'clock. If I'm not there, I'll be on my couch biting a pillow, being like.

[Peter Schrager]

You and a million other Knick fans. Shregs, thanks so much for the time and always great to talk to you awesome guys.

[Jacob Anthony]

So happy to be around and appreciate all your work. And it's really cool to be on the show.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Cheers.

[Peter Schrager]

Peter Schrager again, just as you saw him on NFL Network for many years. It was a fun show. The good morning football and a lot of his coverage as well, and he's now a teammate. Espn.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just. Just the mere suggestion that there. All this time, all this talk, all this chatter, that there's a world in which we're going to go into day two and Sanders isn't picked. Now, he said he didn't think it.

[Peter Schrager]

Was going to happen, that somebody would. Would make the move and just do it, but who?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I just. I've been picturing it.

[Peter Schrager]

One quarterback in a. In A first round of a, of a draft. Think about it that way. 1. One quarterback's going to go in the first round. When's the last time in a league.

[Dave Rothenberg]

In a league in which. A league that has bereft of quarterback.

[Peter Schrager]

It has. What was the last time only one quarterback was selected in the first round of an NFL draft?

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's a great question.

[Peter Schrager]

The last 25 years and having one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

One go.

[Dave Rothenberg]

One.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Having the one and nobody else get picked. Listen, I don't think it's going to happen, but if you don't like him, you don't like them, right? I mean, like, it's one thing to say, okay, I got a chance here to take a quarterback late in the first round, but it's one thing to trade back into the first round after you've already selected someone in the first round. But to have that be your pick and you're not in love with them, even though it might be a low first round pick, if it's somebody's first pick, Allen in the first round, you gotta still like them.

[Peter Schrager]

Anthony's looking it up. 2022. 2022 draft. It just feels like every year there was always a couple of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

In fairness, this was not looked upon as a great draft.

[Peter Schrager]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That we've heard things like old JJ McCarthy would go ahead of Ward and Sanders.

[Peter Schrager]

All right, let's. Let's take a look. It just. Can you name the one quarterback taking 2022 draft. That's what I'm doing here. That's what I'm doing here. The 2022 draft.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's probably staring us right in the face. Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

First legitimate staring us.

[Peter Schrager]

No, there wasn't a quarterback taken in the top 10 that year. The quarterback selected. Oh, I thought this draft had somebody, but no, it did not. I'll give you this. The quarterback selected was pick 20. And the team that picked him is picking around that same time and could.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Be looking for a quarterback. It's baby hands, right? Pick it.

[Peter Schrager]

Yes. Yeah.

[Dave Rothenberg]

The Baby Hand Assassin.

[Peter Schrager]

That's wild.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know whether it's because of his hands or whatever, but it's. It hasn't worked out right.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I mean, he's still playing. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it was. This is his third team.

[Peter Schrager]

Was the next quarterback taken in that draft.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But guys, the, the days of taking a flyer on a quarterback, it's just too important a position to just get it wrong.

[Peter Schrager]

And Desmond Ritter was the next pick.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There you go.

[Peter Schrager]

Third round. Malik Willis, third round.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's a quarterback league. And yet. And really the only reason that Sanders is getting the play is because it's Dion's son.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah, that's what. You know, it's funny, Mel Kuiper has said if his name was Jones, he'd be a second round pick. And yet he's also saying that he's the best. He thinks he's one of the best quarterbacks in the. Here's Mel Kuiper. This was Barton Carlin where he ranks Shador.

[Mel Kiper]

I'm a Shador guy, but I do think there's a significant gap for me personally between Shador and Dart and Shadore and certainly Milroe and Shuck because I go, I go Shador, then Cam. So I'm Shador all the way. But to me, there's no Tyler Schuck and Jalen Milroe in the discussion with Shador Sanders. In terms of my grade there, there, it's a huge difference between the grade of those two and even Jackson Dart. I mean, Jackson Dart going to be around 26. Shador's at 5. That's a pretty good difference.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it sounds like he's.

[Peter Schrager]

Melkyr's been doing the draft for a million years and he has quarterback ranking Shador Sanders ahead of Cam Ward. Cam Ward is going to be the number one pick with a bullet. And Shador Sanders might get picked in the first day and might not. And by the way, he's not going to be in the green room. He's not going to be there. He did not take the invitation. He's going to be home.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But what does that tell you?

[Peter Schrager]

Well, it tells you that he doesn't want to be in the room with the camera on him, waiting for him. He doesn't want to be Aaron Rodgers and Dan Marino. He doesn't want to live that life.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. But actually his father's well aware of it.

[Peter Schrager]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, if you are a guy that believes you're the best quarterback in the draft and if you know you're going high, you're there. I know it's Lambo, it's not sexy, but you're there. The fact that he's home tells you that there's a, there's there's a feeling that is as confident as you are. And I get you want to be confident that you know that there's, there's a possibility, there's a possibility that we can go deep into the first round and he's going to slip it. It's going to be Brady Quinn, it's going to be Thurman Thomas. Where they can keep checking in at the living room.

[Peter Schrager]

You remember the Aaron Rodgers one. That was unbelievable.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They could always turn off the camera at home.

[Peter Schrager]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So. But if you're sitting there in the, you know, in the green room, and they keep. They keep showing you as each pic goes on and on and on and on. And they do that for anybody that's projected. Imagine for him, Sanders son about so.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So they're going to turn down a camera in the house, too?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's no camera in the house, is there?

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, I'm guessing no. If you're not going to go, no, I got to turn down. No, they're going to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're going to have a setup, but they're not gonna have a setup where they're gonna be peeking in on him. Every pick if he selected third, all of a sudden there's a camera there and he's celebrating with the family in the living room.

[Dave Rothenberg]

If he slips to 34, I wonder.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That camera's not gonna turn.

[Peter Schrager]

He's already dismantled.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I gotta tell you. How does that conversation work? What do you mean, I wonder? Like, ESPN does the draft.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah, everybody does the draft.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Abc, espn, NFL Network.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I don't know how they go about talking to the families about where they're getting cameras installed in people's homes. Right. Everyone has to agree with it.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah. And usually, like, some are fine with it just being set up in the living room. Everybody's sitting. I'm sure in those situations, there's a camera somewhere else in the house that you'll go and do your interview. You know what I mean?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, but like, if you know the.

[Peter Schrager]

Pic, it's coming to you. Cause you know, there's delay. You know what's coming and you're there for it.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But what if Sanders family's just like, hey, we're not doing well.

[Peter Schrager]

Remember, they do their own production of things and they probably will want exclusive on our thing. You know what I mean?

[Dave Rothenberg]

For whatever.

[Peter Schrager]

I don't think they'll share the original reaction. I think they'll do a sit down in front of, you know, they'll do something where they sit down in front of a camera that's static, that's in one one place in the house.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Wow, big news just came out of my football world.

[Peter Schrager]

What happened to you?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Washington D.C. and the Commanders. Close to a $3 billion deal for a new stadium at the RFK site in D.C. that is like for commie fans. It being out in Maryland, like, has always been wrong. Like, it would never be. If you want to know when do you officially say, like, it's over and we're back to the glory? If they go back to the original RFK site in dc, that it's true, Return to glory.

[Peter Schrager]

The building's still up, right?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Still there?

[Peter Schrager]

Because I think they drove past it and saw it was like a ghost town.

[Dave Rothenberg]

They've used it for soccer, they've used.

[Peter Schrager]

It for concerts, but it's not in great shape.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, no, no. They would. They would blow it out and put it right there where it used to be. It would be. I don't know. Have you been to Fed. You've been to FedEx, right, Tom? Yeah, they're formerly FedEx. It is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's Landover, right?

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's in Landover. It is a dump. It's not near anything. There's nowhere to park.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was there, whatever the year was Thursday night. Jets at the time, Redskins opening the season. So it might have even been earlier than that. So we're still going back away.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And it was dumped then, and it was new. It was a new dump, so. And it was always just such a bad look.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I felt that they did have public transportation. I remember taking the. I remember, like, staying in.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You know, how far.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Taking the train.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You know how far it is from the subway to the stadium.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Awful.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You know what I did the last time I took the subway to a game? I was, like, 25 years old. I literally just jumped in. A ride with someone, a stranger, you have to get. It's such a long walk from the train to the stadium. It's a nightmare. And it took energy away from this southeast neighborhood, which is a pretty rough neighborhood that the stadium was in. And at least once a week, you know, for the football season, it was alive and people were making money, and it was like a good thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Where is that in relation to where the Nationals play?

[Peter Schrager]

Well, the Nationals are right downtown.

[Dave Rothenberg]

The Nationals are in Southwest, so that's not a great area, which I had never even set foot in in my life until the Nationals went there. Southwest.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was at the first ever game the Nationals played there.

[Peter Schrager]

Really?

[Dave Rothenberg]

So was I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Show a buster.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Only I was there, too. That's very rare.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's more Sunday night, Braves, Nationals.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, in Washington. Sorry. I went to their first ever game, which was at Philly. Yeah, that must have been something. Oh, like you dream about. What's more random? Me choosing to go to the first ever Nationals game. Or don't. Doing the radio show with Buster. Only for the first home game.

[Peter Schrager]

What do you mean? That's not random? Don has done everything.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's true.

[Peter Schrager]

Much, everyone, that is true.

[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jacob Anthony]

You just made the list, buddy.

[Alan Hahn]

This is the list with Don Hahn and Rosenberg.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You know, I love a list. We all love a list, don't we?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love Lamp.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Now I want to say I love Lamp. Do you really love Lamp or are you just saying that?

[Peter Schrager]

Did you say that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I said that.

[Dave Rothenberg]

He said it. Oh, you both said it.

[Peter Schrager]

You both think of the same thing. I didn't hear you.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Now listen, here's the. Let me just say I'm honest about lists, though. Lists that go beyond reason. I love Don's top fives. That he's always done is because with the top five, you can have a reasonable list that you truly believe in. When you get to like a top 25, oh, Lord. When you're beyond five or 10, certainly 10. But even five guys, don't you find that, like, all of a sudden the. The numbers are completely nothing? Like, you're just saying, what's the difference between 17 and 15? It's nothing. It's nothing. You're just saying you're trying to find places to put everything. With a top five, you can mean it. You know what I mean?

[Peter Schrager]

Yes. And you also are leaving usually at least one item out that could be in the top five.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Exactly.

[Peter Schrager]

And it leads to a better conversation about whether or not you should or shouldn't. Like, for instance, at some point, maybe at the end of these playoffs, we could do a new top five all time NBA players. Because maybe a player who's currently playing might do something to push his way into that top five.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But when you're down in the teens, what are you doing so right here? Today's top five is very personal to me. I'm not saying I wouldn't change my mind on it, because of course I would on a different day when it's something this near. And dear guys, this weekend from Las Vegas. It is the 41st edition of WrestleMania and it is bigger than it has ever been. It's absolutely crazy at this point. My WrestleMania weekend starts tomorrow. I'll be on First Take interviewing Cody Rhodes with Stephen A. The champ is gonna be on First Take tomorrow. Then I'm heading out to Vegas. Friday night, I'm hosting the red carpet for the hall of Fame, which I'm very excited about. Of all the, like, silly broadcasting things that like, we kind of aspire to. I've always wanted to host a proper red carpet show where I'm just interviewing whoever comes by.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Very good at that.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah, it's my vibe wheelhouse for you.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's right in my wheelhouse.

[Peter Schrager]

Absolutely.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I've never gotten the chance. And me and my friend who does a fantastic job, she's really becoming in a lot of ways, the queen of the NHL television broadcast. Jackie Redmond and I will be. Will be doing the coverage on the red carpet and then the countdown show Saturday and Sunday, which includes, by the way, guys, my full one on one sit down with triple H. That'll air in two parts over this weekend. So super excited about that.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, that was well done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, well, you have to use the names if you're promoting something you got.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So we.

[Peter Schrager]

Are we going tux? Are we going suit? We going three piece? What are we doing?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Well, you know, this is like my seventh or eighth WrestleMania. I am always a tux guy for this weekend. So I am bringing two different tuxedos.

[Peter Schrager]

Really?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Three different jackets. The third jacket, the one is a shaw collar, one is the pointed regular tux collar, and the third one lapel is the lapel collar. And the third one is the velvet, the full velvet, blue velvet, which, I don't know, we'll see if I feel like wearing it. I. I do enjoy it.

[Peter Schrager]

So that probably for the red carpet show.

[Dave Rothenberg]

That's what I was thinking. I would think velvet on the red car.

[Peter Schrager]

Little pop out of the pocket too.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, something there. And yeah, I'll make. I'll mix up black and white shirts, short bow tie and long tie. I'm mixing it all up all week.

[Peter Schrager]

Smart. All right. Lots of content for our, for our socials here. Oh, I'm sure for the show.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I hope they're dialed. Socials, screen grabbing me all week, all of it. Pictures, video, everything.

[Peter Schrager]

Look at our guys. Look at our guys.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And by the way, everything that I'm doing this weekend, all those pre shows and everything, they also all air live on YouTube so it's easy to watch and grab all of it now. Top five WrestleManias of all time. This is highly debated among wrestling circles. And this year I've seen quite a bit of it. I'll get into it. Number five. I wanted to pick one from the modern era, the truly modern era. And by that I mean the two night era, because the two night era started during COVID That was how it began. There was no crowd. They decided a wacky thing to do. It over two days with no audience and now it's led into what is the future two day events. I'm curious. Jacob Anthony, you guys can feel free to weigh in on this. I decided to go with my number five WrestleMania of all time, WrestleMania 38. Okay. It included Roman Reigns defending the title against Brock Lesnar, which was a super cool moment. Important in the Roman Reigns reign that we've seen. It also involved Mr. McMahon's final appearance. He had a match against Pat McAfee. We got to see Mr. McMahon get stunned by stone cold Steve Austin. We also got to see Steve Austin on the first night have probably his last ever wrestling match. And it exceeded all expectations when he beat Kevin Owens in a no holds barred match. Up and down. It was just a lot of fun. Logan Paul's first WrestleMania match with the Miz. He was incredible against the Mysterios. And of course, Bianca Belair, who's never been pinned at WrestleMania, beat Becky lynch for the championship. That's my number five WrestleMania. And for all of you people, you old heads who are going, I know nothing about that. Now I'll jump into the stuff. You'll be a little bit more familiar with my number four WrestleMania match of all time. Guys, how do you not talk about when wrestling was maybe at its most cool, its most mainstream, as mainstream as it is now. I think they're always chasing this moment. WrestleMania 14, Shawn Michaels and stone cold Steve Austin with the special guest referee scorching hot. Just a year to remove from jail, Iron Mike Tyson. I mean, this is when Mike Tyson was. If you didn't live through this time like the kids out there, you don't even know what it was to have intrigue as an athlete. Like the intrigue to see Tyson do anything after he got out of jail. Do you guys remember people wearing the I'll be back shirts? They were everywhere. Bootlegged constantly. And then Mike Tyson ends up involved in WrestleMania. He did a great job. I remember seeing it at the time and thinking, how are they working with this guy? He's completely unhinged. And yet he did an incredible job. It's just an iconic moment. Fleet center in Boston. Obviously the main thing you talk about is Austin and Michaels with Mike Tyson. But the Undertaker beat Kane, which is absolutely classic. You got Cactus Jack and Chainsaw Charlie having a tag team match. There was just so much. The Rock beats Ken Shamrock. An awesome, fun one. But of course, that Mike Tyson involvement, to me is just so critical. The number three WrestleMania of all time. Now we're getting into Hulk Hogan territory. WrestleMania 18, Toronto, Ontario, at the Sky Dome. One of the most memorable things you will. If you want to see what electricity looks like in an arena, please go look at the moment when Hulk Hogan was standing across the ring from the Rock. It was something that, like, you never believed it was even humanly possible that you would see these guys have a match. And now when you guys look back at it, we thought of Hulk Hogan as, like, so old at that time. How could he even have a match? He was like. He was like 43 years old. He wasn't even that old. They put on a banger of a match, the crowd went up and down. But even beyond that, Chris Jericho and Triple H. Steve Austin and Razor Ramon Scott Hall. The Undertaker beat the living hell out of Ric Flair. Kurt Angle and Kane up and down. A fantastic card. WrestleMania 18, number three for me. Let's stay right next to it. I absolutely adore this WrestleMania. I know some people may not agree. The second best of all time to me goes out to Seattle. We're talking prime era. Limp Bizkit. This is pure attitude era at its finest. WrestleMania 19. The look of Safeco Field, guys, in Seattle was just insane. Hulk Hogan, Vince McMahon. All right, triple H beat Booker T. Which a lot of us are still very upset about. Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar. But of course, it was the rubber match between the Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin. The last one. The Rock beats Steve Austin and sends him into retirement. And we didn't see him again until WrestleMania 38, 19 years later. That, to me, is the second greatest WrestleMania of all time. And number one, guys, it pains me to say this, Dave Rothenberg was there. It blows my mind. I can't believe it happened. I was lucky enough that a teacher's assistant at my primary school school recorded it on VHS for me, because, I don't know, you guys are. You guys might both be too old to appreciate this buying, getting pay per views as a kid. Because, like, you guys didn't really have that as an option as a kid, right?

[Peter Schrager]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Dave Rothenberg]

There were pay per view as a kid. I mean, as a kid. Yes, as a little kid. What was. On point.

[Peter Schrager]

Not little kid, no, hbo. You'd have to pay. But. But yeah, teenagers, maybe. Teenagers. Yeah.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I was 8 years old. My parents did not buy pay per views. Now. They acted as if.

[Peter Schrager]

Expensive.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I remember, guys. No, no, expensive. It would have been like I was asking for a new house. Like, in retrospect, sometimes the answer is just bad Guy why they couldn't shell out 2999. It would have made my life. But fortunately, a teaching assistant named Mrs. Clemens loved wrestling. And the day after WrestleMania she brought me a VHS cassette with the greatest wrestling event of all time from The Pontiac's overdome. WrestleMania 3 right there for me to consume as an 8 year old.

[Peter Schrager]

Wow.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Ooh, yeah. All the feels, obviously what you just played. Macho Man, Randy Savage and Ricky the Dragon. Steamboat having what many believe is the greatest match of all time for the Intercontinental Championship. The undercard is great. All of your favorites are all over it. Roddy Piper and Adrian Adonis, because Roddy Piper was retiring for the first of nine times. But of course, you can't talk pro wrestling and what happened to this business without talking about Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant. As I've gotten older, I've only appreciated more and more the story that they told in the ring and, and the fact that Andre was able to have that match with how physically bad off he was at that time. Guys, the guy like couldn't move anymore. And he managed to have one of the most epic matches of all time for me. I know people may see it, otherwise, it's the greatest. It'll never be topped. Number five, Mania 38. Number four, Mania 14. Number three Mania 18219 at Safeco in Seattle. And the greatest WrestleMania of all time, number one with a bullet. His WrestleMania.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was ready to fight you. If it wasn't three, there wasn't being a top I knew it was going to be, so I just popped up the Wikipedia page to be prepared. And it brought back so many memories for me. My brother and I had the same room growing up, but then obviously when I went to college and we didn't stay in the same room, but whenever I'd be home and in his room, that WrestleMania 3 poster was always up there. And I just popped it up with Hulk looking right at Andre Pontiac Silver Dome. Such a big deal.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It changed everything. Without that, without that event. I mean, Vince McMahon really bet a lot of the business.

[Peter Schrager]

What year Was that again?

[Dave Rothenberg]

87. March. 87. It was a big, big deal. And I have one of the original event posters framed in my living room. I got it a few years ago in a mint condition black and white. It's a crazy thing because I guess what I also love about it and why it makes me feel so good is I lived through it and it was such a part of my childhood. Yet when you look at the poster, it's like, oh yeah, I am connected to like, old times. It looks literally like old times.

[Peter Schrager]

Is that the Super Bowl 3 for wrestling? If you think about it, yeah. Like, put it on the map for good.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Kind of confirmed. Because one, at MSG was a big deal. The fact that it was successful, it sold out. It was MSG, right. It was Mr. T. It's Cyndi Lauper. It's all those things. Liberace 2, they tried to get even bigger and they had. They had things in la, Chicago and New York. But the card for those who is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not it was at the Coliseum. Right. Two. Yes.

[Dave Rothenberg]

But it's not memorable in the same way. And then three, they go to the Silver Dome, which holds nearly 100,000 people. Now, was the real number 93,000. Nobody knows. But either way, it was packed to the gills.

[Peter Schrager]

Right.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It was certainly over 80,000, right?

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Wikipedia has the attendance at 78,000, but that just might have been what. What Pontiac Silver Dome was for football. I don't know.

[Dave Rothenberg]

That's what people now say it is. WWE always said it was 93. They had a tendency to exaggerate. I don't know if Andre was quite 75 either. But, you know, I think their attendance figures have gotten more legitimate as the years have gone on. But. But yeah, it just the fact that it was Hogan versus Andre, too. Guys, Andre is a bad guy. It. Like, I've never. This is the one thing as great as wrestling is right now, and I love it, Mania weekend will be amazing. If you have kids of that age, throw on Peacock this week. Even if you haven't been watching it. Throw on Peacock Saturday or Sunday evening, you'll have the time of your life. But we'll never live in a time where when the bad guy like Andre the Giant is going to the ring, he's just being pelted with garbage by the whole stadium. It was still real enough then. You know what I mean?

[Peter Schrager]

I do.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It looks go look up him entering the ring. Him and Bobby Heenan are just swallowing.

[Peter Schrager]

There was a real visceral hatred.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah.

[Peter Schrager]

For those characters then. That you definitely felt something.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Jacob, you think I should have included 17.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

TLC 2, like rockin. I mean, Rock and Stone Cold, Triple H and Undertaker.

[Peter Schrager]

There's always the one, right? You make a list of five. There's always gonna be one that was.

[Anthony]

That one of those WrestleManias, like, early in my childhood that I remember vividly. Like, that's probably the one that I've seen, like, cover the COVID the most.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah. It also had Shane versus Vince.

[Anthony]

Yeah.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Street Fight, which Is I also say.

[Anthony]

Too probably that Brett Shawn Michaels Iron man match, Was that WrestleMania 13?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah. And that's getting honored this weekend at the hall of Fame. Anyways, that was my list and I hope you enjoyed it. Thank you. If you don't like wrestling, thank you for tolerating.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did a great job. You know what? You know what I found out today? Actually just found out a little while ago, David, my brother, who's on his way right now to Vegas for Wrestlemania was on Michelle Beatles podcast.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I just saw that too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he, he talked about. Remember I always bring up the two game sevens. Rangers, Capitals, Devils, Hurricanes. And this station made me go to, to, to Madison Square Garden for that event. What was, what was the event again? It's 2009. I forget what. I don't know if it was a Royal Rumble.

[Dave Rothenberg]

You have to interview someone or something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I just. I had to be with some listeners this week. Me and Michelle were in the suite, so I brought my brother and it was a smack, I guess. Must have a smackdown. It was like a Monday.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, there was Raw.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. And that was that day my brother's show, Busted Open debuted. I never knew that, that it was the same day, the same day history.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And now it's the biggest wrestling radio show in the world.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was saying that Michelle has some ties to my brother's.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah, I saw the headline and didn't know what they were talking about because.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We were all hanging out. I was ignoring the wrestling. They could have been just around bunnies. I was. There was two game sevens at the same time. This nation's done me dirty many times. No worse than that.

[Peter Schrager]

But you always show up.

[Dave Rothenberg]

The list was brought to you by.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was a sponsor.

[Peter Schrager]

Oh yeah, how about that?

[Dave Rothenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Dave Rothenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcast.

[Peter Schrager]

You know what right now is a good time for? What is that a good time for? Game time. Brought to you by Tullamore Do Irish Whiskey. Because when it's game time.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, he's back.

[Peter Schrager]

It's so back. Mets lost to the Twins in 10 innings.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Disgusted.

[Peter Schrager]

Wow. 43 was your final. They rallied in the eighth. They were down three, zip, tie it and then, you know, the ghost runner ends up scoring. And that's the game. That's so the Mets take an L. They dropped to 11 and 7. Now on the season, the Yankees will close out their series with the Royals. I believe they can go for the sweep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Correct.

[Peter Schrager]

705 first pitch tonight. Devils hosting the Red Wings at 7:30. Can the Devils just get to the playoffs? Now? Enough of this. Enough of these games.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's kind of got like a Nick feel to it.

[Dave Rothenberg]

So boring. We know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And we've known for like two weeks. They're playing the Hurricanes. Enough already.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah, even last night's games. Like, can we, can we just go on?

[Dave Rothenberg]

That's the thing about these.

[Peter Schrager]

Welcome our audience on 880, by the way.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, now we do.

[Peter Schrager]

We are on 880 now. Back on 880. We were on the ESPN New York app, of course.

[Dave Rothenberg]

What did you guys think of the list? Oh, you missed it.

[Peter Schrager]

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[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, I need to tell you something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, please.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I have a major announcement at 5:00.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, cool.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Don't. No, sell it.

[Peter Schrager]

A major.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I said. Oh, cool.

[Peter Schrager]

That's a major award.

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, no, Alan, give me something better than that. Than him just saying. Oh, cool. Like I just told him I wore pro Keds to work.

[Peter Schrager]

Thanks.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I have a major announcement at 5:00.

[Peter Schrager]

Can't wait.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I didn't say rip off Bart Scott either. Let me try.

[Peter Schrager]

I don't know what he wants me to do here.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I mean, no curiosity.

[Peter Schrager]

Oh, this guy really wants you to perform for him, huh, guys?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Clown here.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I'm gonna try again. Let's see what Don does. Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I've got a major, major. I'm talking about. This will impact your life. You're gonna care. Five o'clock. Your life will be affected. I'm announcing for seven minutes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm intrigued.

[Peter Schrager]

I am intrigued.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's not the way he sold it, by the way. He way oversold it the second time.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah. The first time he's like, I have a major announcement to make.

[Dave Rothenberg]

I think, I think I'll put it this way. Is it the biggest thing that's ever happened in the history of life? No. Is it bigger than something Michael K. Would tease when he would be like, hey, guys, I have something very exciting coming up and it'll be nothing and a sandwich. And it'd be I brought baloney to work. No. You're gonna hear a big announcement on this program that's gonna affect everyone's life.

[Peter Schrager]

Everyone's life.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Everyone, my life, you, the audience. Everybody's affected by this.

[Peter Schrager]

The audience is affected.

[Dave Rothenberg]

5:00.

[Peter Schrager]

We have to wait. We have to wait another six minutes.

[Dave Rothenberg]

And talk to the people in between.

[Peter Schrager]

Bigly Frank in New Jersey. What's up, Frank?

[Jacob Anthony]

Peter, especially for you. There are going to be some tremendous matches this weekend. I know I have my own particular favorite. What is your most anticipated WrestleMania match for this weekend?

[Dave Rothenberg]

I think I am most curious. I'm. I think I'm ultimately most curious about the Cena Cody match because I just don't know where they go with that. I can't really picture either thing happening. And to me that's what makes that riveting. But I think the, I think the actual, in terms of the quality of match, the triple threat on Saturday night, I think is going to be a gem.

[Peter Schrager]

Jonathan in la. What's up, Jonathan?

[Jacob Anthony]

Hi, guys.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Hi.

[I]

For three of you guys and for Peter, differently Peter, I'm actually going to WWE World. I'm just gonna be going to WrestleMania Sunday, but I got tickets to meet Mike Tyson at 10 in the morning Sunday. I'm asking you, are you going to be at WWE World Sunday morning?

[Dave Rothenberg]

But you're meeting him at World or somewhere else you mean?

[I]

Yeah, I'm meeting them at World. I got those tax those tickets that you can actually meet.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Oh, I didn't know Tyson, I didn't know Tyson was doing me a meet and greet at at World.

[I]

I couldn't afford a Stone Cold or Undertaker. So Mike Tyson was the one.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Mike was under Mike. Mike was priced lower than Stone Cold and Undertaker. What are they running what are they running to meet Mike tyson at the WWE World.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm curious.

[I]

Was 180 for me and my son.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Does that include a picture?

[I]

Yes, a picture and meet him and autograph, I guess. But undertaking so cold we're looking at 450 to $600.

[Peter Schrager]

That's.

[I]

Are you gonna be at Will?

[Dave Rothenberg]

No, I gotta be at the building. I'm gonna be at Mania already by like 10:00am so this thing he's talking.

[Peter Rosenberg]

About was where we were at last year in Philly, right?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Dave Rothenberg]

It's even bigger this year. They're going even harder.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sorry, I mean Vegas, you might get over there.

[I]

Peter, guys, really quick. The playoffs are. Are you about to start? I just want to see what are you guys. Pick some good hardwood on who's going to win the championship and some good ice picks on who for Donnie, who's going to win the Sandy Cup.

[Peter Schrager]

Hardwood. We haven't done a hardwood over there, Peter. Thank you, Jonathan.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Thank you, buddy. Look for me on. Look for me. I'll be outside for the second like the second and third hour of the countdown show. You can go to our outside stage and find me. I'll be out there.

[Peter Schrager]

Don, one bold prediction about the Stanley cup playoffs.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If Montreal makes it. They need a point tonight to clinch eight. They. My bold prediction is they'll beat Washington.

[Peter Schrager]

I like that. See. Wow. I'm going. I'm going something similar. The Chicago Bulls tonight playing for the eighth seed.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Peter Schrager]

They have to win and then they have to win again. I think they're getting the eighth seed.

[Jacob Anthony]

Okay.

[Peter Schrager]

And I think they're going to. They're going to get a couple of games off of Cleveland.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I can see that.

[Peter Schrager]

Their offense the second half of the season for them. People sleep on this team because they give up a lot of points.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pretty bold picks we just made.

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Don't look at you guys. Not messing around.

[Peter Schrager]

Lock them in. Eight seat. All right. I guess big news in the 5:00 hour from our own Peter Rosenberg. That and let's discuss the Mets all of a sudden.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Peter Schrager]

Juan Soto, by the way. 0 for 5, 3 strikeouts. What's their record now since he opened his big fat mouth?

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yankee. Yankee boy hates what he feels about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It because they won the day he said it. They're 1 and 2 to but I think you're going to want to angle on when it was announced, which is.

[Peter Schrager]

They'Re owing to just saying he homeward yesterday. That's nice. Did they win?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, but he homeworked Lindor. Cost them the game.

[Dave Rothenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Schrager]

I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good.

[Alan Hahn]

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